Well, /pol/? Red button or blue button?
>>534599270I'd press both simultaneously, faggot.
>>534599270
To the surprise of no-one, plebbit has issues with people pressing the red button.
this is just demoralization tactics the chud hits the blue button and he dies like red buttoners want him the chud hits the red button and is still stuck with red button pushersbasically chuds lose
>>534599270.
>>534599546>I live>I loseNo
>>534599270Blue is western codedRed is indian coded
>>534599270red, cause I get to crush 2 extra people
Why does universalism mindbreak der chuden?
this exercise just illustrates why we can't have a high trust society.
>>534599670I just saw a 4 minute comp of jeets getting hit by trains, the blue button is literally the most Indian thing ever, it’s unnecessary suicide
>>534599752This. A truly high-quality society would make it customary to run out on the railroad tracks under the guise that if enough people go, the engineer will see you and move to the other lane. Everyone who is too pussy to stand in front of the train are basically Indians.
>>534599270Blue. Picture is unrelated to the question.
red button pushers think a world without risktaskers is worth living in. the blue pushers are trying to spare you of that suffering. You should thank them.
>>534599445Blue wins simply because you don't know who will vote blue, not everyone thinks the same way your do. It could be your family, it could be people you love.If it ends up minority, they die. Can you risk that? Isn't it safer to pick the one in which everyone survives even if 100% isn't reached?If you answer is still red, you are exactly what kikes want you to be, detached from people, chained by ideas that they could always tie more to your legs to keep you down. Red is precisely the "but i didn't eat breakfast this morning" choice.
>>534599860but indians stand in front of trains all the time
>>534599670This guy gets it. Blue is high trust society, red is poojeet coded.
>>534599546no one wants to be around blue button narcissists. not even other narcissists
>>534600020>isn’t it safer to take poison when there’s a chance there’s an antidote than it is to not take the poison in the first place?
>>534599270Red. I still don't get why I should press the blue button?
>>534600074That is false, red is the high trust and blue is the low IQ you don't want in your society. Who will be culled
>>534600088>whataboutismsYou have failed nigger. Good goy.
>>534600143this is not inspiring trust coming from a jeet
>>534600020Shut the fuck up, Nazi.
>>534600143You press red if you don't trust your fellow humans to all press blue. It's brown coded, shows lack of civic understanding. You press blue if you believe humans are good in nature and want to see everyone live.
>>534600207>whataboutismYou’re fucking retarded, nigger. That’s not anything close to what that word means.
>>534600020I wish this shit was real so all retards that think this way would actually fucking kill themselves out of stupidity and leave us with the people who actually have more than a couple of defective braincells as a sorry excuse for a brain
>>534600282i have faith in my fellow humans to make the right choice and push red
Red button pushers are gambling with a post red button majority world.
>>534600457oh no, a world full of people that know not to push a button that could kill you
>>534600423People who choose blue may as well just kill themselves. Placing the onus of your safety on others is not the same as trusting the good of humanity. In fact, it’s insanely narcissistic to expect others to ensure you live, especially when you’re risking throwing your life away for nothing.
>>534599270>Having trust in a society filled with retarded shitskinsI might have pressed the blue button in the 90's, but now it's suicide.I don't know why you burgers are even discussing this stupid shit, because you just know that less than 20% would push blue.The whole premise is shit anyway, since there's no real downside to pushing red.
>>534600337You will be left with shitskins, kike. Indians, goatfuckers and niggers would mass press red.>>534600268There are no nazis left you stupid faggot, nazis ended with Nazi Germany, as they deserved. Imagine destablizing europe and killing millions of white christians just to hunt some kikes down. Kikes are like ants, you don't give them importance, importance and hatred is what they need to play victim, you flush them out and build your nation without involving them, they will slowly wither away.
>be a murder>be murderedsounds like the button might be the wrong color
>>534600020Blue is the histrionic retard option because you cannot sell it without giving some emotionalist plea. Not to mention its one that completely removes the idea of an individual having any modicum of critical thinking skills since in the end there is no reason to press blue outside of some suicidal and narcicistic need to show how selfless you are.
>>534600020If my family is retarded that's not my problem, I'm not going to save them by hoping my corpse will jam the crushing machine.I can explain to them the rational science but if they live or die that's up to them, ultimately.
Blue = low test zoomerfagsRed = Real men/thread
i’m voting blue, it’s simply the nicer choice
>>534600457Oh no a world without anime ethics zoomers and bleeding heart liberals.
>>534599270No matter how many times you glowniggers make this thread or how many shills you send to manufacture consensus, you will not psy-op /pol/ into pressing blue.
>>534600020you are wasting your time. a nonwhite mind only thinks of itself and nobody else. its why scams are so prevalent in other countries, its why corruption is so common, why things like face matter more than honor or doing what is right. to them the entire world revolves around how they can get ahead while stepping on everyone else around them, to speak about anything else is simply nonsense to them. they will never understand why the blue button should be pressed while simultaneously complaining they live in a low trust society. they will NEVER put 2 and 2 together, ever.
>>534600621Its a thought experiment meant to show who is suicidally narcissistic. From every standpoint there is no reason to press blue. Logically if you press red there is no chance you will die, and ethically the only people who suffer are the ones who choose to press blue and you are under no obligation to save someone who would willingly die just so they can feed their own ego.
>>534600728>my family is not my responsibility
>>534600531Since you're all religious extremists these days, let's do a small mental exercise.Have you read the Bible? If you did, you know Jesus would press blue.Presume Jesus is alive and among us, participating in this vote. He will press blue, you, a devout red presser, would risk killing him. Then you would be left in a world in which you have killed Jesus, by doing what Jesus wouldn't do, surrounded by people who did what Jesus wouldn't do.Although, there is a chance that you're a kike, and you would do it intentionally to kill him. Bringing us back to what I began with, red is what the kikes want you to be, to not care about the other person or that they may think differently than you. They must he exactly like you, or they may as well die, whilst blues would keep you alive regardless of what you choose or think, because even if they don't deeply care about you, they still value your life, as Jesus would.
>>534600074Blue pushers are literally the drain on society
>>534600728Good goy.
>>534600949Of course the fucking gypsy is calling people goy because they don't want to save retards who chose to kill themselves.
>>534600937Meds. Choosing blue is punishing those who value their own lives by making them kill you.
>>534600822Blue is literally the option of pure ego, paco. There is no benefit to it unless you think that showing everyone what a good and noble boy you are matters more than you life itself. And in the end that's not honor since you don't end up saving anyone but just dying in a vain attempt to feed you ego along with other retards.
>>534600937You're trying to use religion to justify own retarded choice but you fail in the fact that Jesus' sacrifice was an utterly selfless one for the good of all mankind while this is effectively an exercise in pride. This is not even a sacrifice since there exists an option to simply not die, for your argument to work there would have to be an option where their either is a choice to not sin or be born without sin.
>>534601076Another response I’ve heard is>I wouldn’t want to live in a red worldwhich is also framing it in the best interest of the responder, which is selfish. Not to mention, why wouldn’t you want to live in a world where everyone values their own lives? If you pick blue, you don’t value your own life. Therefore risking your life isn’t a sacrifice, as sacrifice requires something of value to the person offering it. You burn a calf at an altar, not cow dung.
>>534600822>We're being replaced by shit skins!Also>nonwhites don't understand the value of sitting in the chair. The overall happiness goes up bro!
>>534599270I propose a third button, one of which if you press you die no matter what
>>534600020my 10 year old daughter understood the game theory of not pressing blue and subjecting yourself to the possibility of dyingthe smart choice is red which guarantees you liveif anyone tries to get you to press blue it is because they are retarded and pressed blue
>>534600020Not my problem, I have bigger shit to worry about than retards who press blue.
>>534600898my responsibly end once reason endsit's that simple
Blue makes sense only if you value your life much less than a random stranger.Red saves more lives on average
Seeing how many shills push this red = jeet bullshit, this genuinely seems like the latest psyop to push Aryans towards suicidal compassion again. Fuck that, TKD TND Heil Hitler.
>>534601003They don't choose to kill themselves, they choose to save everyone with the minimum number of votes necessary. Killing them is the red's choice. Anyone dying is entirely dependent on red being pressed by the majority, not the other way around.But you still follow obtuse nigger mentality, hence you are incapable of understanding casuality.>>534601004Those who value their life indeed, but no value for someone else's life. That's why the Jesus analogy was necessary, yet it still went over your head.>>534601200Your entire argument says you didn't have breakfast this morning. You still don't get other people would choose differently and that's why blue is the selfless choice. You are still so deeply imprisoned in your own egocentric self that you would rather kill others than put yourself in their shoes and pick what guarantees 100% survival regardless of a few thinking red is better. You pick to kill those who think blue is better.That's what tells me you understand nothing of Jesus, he would save everyone regardless, only the kike wants a messiah with bias towards them. That is why this entire argument can easily be projected onto abrahamic religions.
>>534600088>food analogy>that flagChecked though
>>534601368Of course, a 10 years old child is still in the process of developing empathy and a sense of self in relation to others.Children are notoriously selfish. Saying you would choose what a child would isn't helping your case, it's saying that you are as mentally developed as a shitskin, who even in adulthood, fail to surpass a child's mental state.
>>534602009>They don't choose to kill themselves, they choose to save everyoneTheyre not saving anyone because the choice is so overwhelmingly obvious. Why the fuck would anyone go for the option where there is a chance to die when there is an option not to? Its not the ethical option its just retarded and vain.>Anyone dying is entirely dependent on red being pressed by the majority And no one dying is dependent on no one picking blue, blue is the only choice where death is a possibility >But you still follow obtuse nigger mentalityYour literally pushing blue because you want to play tard wrangler, or more likely you want other people to be your tard wrangler and save you from your onw retarded choices.>Your entire argument says you didn't have breakfast this morningIts not, I have addressed the hypothetical and my rationale for it, while also explaining why your position is retarded and makes no sense. >You still don't get other people would choose differently and that's why blue is the selfless choiceSo here you are not only flat out lying but you just admitted that the reason you think its selfless is because its a "different choice">You are still so deeply imprisoned in your own egocentric selfWow "no u". Youre not saying how its egocentric and just repeating what I said because its the best you can do. Subhumans always do this, stick to pick pocketing and kidnapping children you fucking parasite. >rather kill others than put yourself in their shoes and pick what guarantees 100% survival regardlessred is 100% survival, since there is no chance of death if you pick red. Do you not understand the question? No wonder you want people to pick blue.
>>534602009This is how jews are browning our countries.Anyway, as everyone who presses blue has knowledge of what happens when blue is pressed it is in fact a suicide pact and not murder.Look at it this way>"press this button and nothing happens"or>"press this button and nothing happens if enough people press it" You are not selfless, you are stupid.Also, whites are a minority, if pushing red is brown coded you are definitely dying if you press blue.
>>534602030>poison>food analogy>food
Let's spice it up. Suppose everyone presses their buttons, then stats is shown and people are allowed to change their mind and press one more time. Do you change your mind?
>>534600020>Blue wins simply because you don't know who will vote blueI know there is not enough retards like you in the world to ever vote blue when its an actual "kill me" button and the alternative button has zero consequences if everyone presses it. Only a pressing the blue button can kill.
I choose red and if any of my friends or family die from it then I take revenge against society to teach the universe to not be so retarded next time and put me in situations I can't escape from.
The world is not a high trust world. 90% of the world will push red. Pushing blue is suicide.
>>534600623>You will be left with shitskins, kike. Indians, goatfuckers and niggers would mass press red.yeah, but on the other hand, all the retards like you who'd shield these various groups from consequence are gone from this planet, so now problems can actually be addressed and fixed.
People just gotta accept there are genuine retards in this world that would press blue, and that we aren’t responsible for their suicidal tendencies. And that’s it.Besides, i’m pretty sure people who’d press blue are completely fine with suicida. It seems selfish to want to sabotage all the blue presser’s suicides when they clearly just want to die.
>>534602478It's genuinely>You can pick up this 6 shots revolver with one bullet loaded in the chamber, put it to your temple and press the trigger>Or you can just leave it on the table and go awayAnyone choosing to play Russian Roulette for no rewards is trying to commit suicide and it's entirely on them.
>>534602869There is also the fact that individual vote does not matter. You will never be the one single vote that changes everything, so your particular vote is irrelevant to the overall scenario, therefore you should press red if you want to live and blue if you want to die. Amongst its countless flaws, (((democracy))) also has the flaw that any individual note is entirely worthless.
>>534602545Fuck it let’s just turn this into the Monty Hall problem
>>534602545No
>>534602478>Also, whites are a minority, if pushing red is brown coded you are definitely dying if you press blue.That's entirely correct, hence why shitskins must be culled or forced to learn, to evolve, if we wish a high trust society in which people understand blue is for the better of everyone under any circumstance, not just a certain portion of people bound by a rule, as red is. Until then, while red mentality is majority, this world will continue being the shithole that it is, and humanity will succumb to shitskins savagery.>>534602442>red is 100% survivalFor reds. You still don't get it into your thick skull that there will be people who will vote blue and you would be killing them. You still don't put yourself in the shoes of others, their circumstances, what their ideas and ideals may be. You demand everyone press red or they die, how are you any different from the tyrant that presented us with this game to begin with?You are arguing in favour of 100% survival for you, and those like you, damned be those who may not see things the way you do.I am arguing in favour of 100% survival for everyone, including you, I don't care what you press, I want you alive.
>>534602956And the fact the problem assumes roughly 50% of the population is retarded, making both red and blue a valid possibility and manufacturing the complexity of the problem that eay. But in reality more like 80~90% of the population is retarded (performative blue pressers that won’t press blue and niggers) so the only valid option is red.
>>534600020My family took the Covid vaccine which means they would for sure press the blue button. Societal pressure, propaganda, the illusion that you have a choice not to press the blue button but in reality you’re barred from going to restaurants and other very important things (/s)… yea the world is better off whiteout blue button pressers
If the experiment is only for Poland I would vote blue, if it's for whole EU then most likely also blue, if it's whole world with all jeets, chinks ziggers and niggers, then red.Simple as.
Both
>>534603227You’d still die with Poland and Europe
>>534599270Definitely one of the most retarded "thought experiment" slops I have ever seen.>if you hit red congrats no consequences and you and everyone else will live >if you press blue then a majority has to do or else you dieAnd what a surprise the goyim are all kvetching>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO PRESS BLUE BECAUSE THE MEDIA SAID SO!!!Blue = bug man retard that is easily persuaded to be a suicidal cuck based solely on low level emotional manipulation (press blue or youre a nazi).Red is just pure fucking logic because it guarantees life.
>>534600020If you explain it carefully to anyone, red is clearly the safe answer. Even a retard can work that out. The only people stupid enough to press it are virtue signalling
>>534599270>you just wanna kill usOh so it's like choosing to be a victim so can complain about it?Makes a lot of sense, now. Women, liberals and browns would press the blue. Jews would say they pressed the blue, but actually press red.
>>534599270I'm pressing blue because I don't want sole responsibility in whatever happens to meyou must also press blue because you shouldn't have the agency to decide what happens to you.
>>534603174My friend, i understand your point, but people actively choosing blue are forcing other people to press blue in order to save themselves. In a perfect society, everyone would choose red, simply because an intelligent person would expect other people to choose red too, not blue. But you are right, we are not in a perfect society. Still, by choosing blue, im subjecting myself to the risk of dying and I'm forcing other people to choose blue in order to save me, not themselves, because if they were to choose red they would automatically save themselves. If i care about my family and other people, as you are saying i should do, i should try to convince them to vote RED too, and they should convince other people to vote RED too themselves, not the contrary. Your assumption is that you should choose blue and convince other people to choose blue in order to save everyone, but i think i should choose red and convince other people choose red. If someone then still wants to choose blue, then they can do it, at the risk of losing their lives, because I'm not losing mine to try and save everyone else in the riskier way
>>534603124yeah, that's what I was kinda thinking, but couldn't figure out how to do it exactly right
>>534599670The west has a deep seated mental illness not held by any others. Red is not Indian coded, Red is normal and healthy and so obvious that even the most retarded subhumans can see Red is correct.
>>534603174>For redsYes, so everyone should press red, good job acknowledging that.>who will vote blue and you would be killing themNo, they would be killing themselves by pressing the blue button.>their circumstancesEveryone is in the same situation, press red, no chance of death, press blue, chance of death. The only reason someone would press blue is if they're retarded or a retarded narcissist. >You demand everyone press red or they dieNo, I am pointing out the reality of the situation if you press red there is no risk of death, and you acknowledged that. So there is no reason to press blue save if you're an idiot, suicidal, or a narcissist. But you need to misconstrue what is going on in an attempt to play victim and place culpability on me and others who have picked red for your own retarded choice to pick blue. >You are arguing in favour of 100% survival for you, and those like youWhich could be anyone and everyone given that nothing is stopping someone from picking red. >how are you any different from the tyrant that presented us with this game to begin withBecause I am not forcing you to pick either, just giving you information to make an informed decision. But you do not like that your choice is inherently retarded so you need to try and act like you are a victim of the people who choose the objectively superior option which if picked by everyone leads to no deaths. While the other option relies on people risking their own lives to save you from your own stupidity. >I am arguing in favour of 100% survival for everyoneYou're not, you are arguing that people should risk their lives so retards like you who pick the blue button don't die when when red leads to you living no matter what.
>>534603174You can’t press blue and live and it’s not about browns or whites. If the problem presents all the population with an informed choice right now, the vast majority will choose the easiest path towards self-preservation, which is the res button. And this would happen in an all white population as well.
>>534599445>majority press red you live>minority press blue you dieThose are the same option, retard
>>534603943You’re only confused because you’re reading it upside down, Nigel
>>534600074We don't have a high trust society because of the suicidal altruism of blue button pushers like you
>>534603639You don't know the initial dilemma. The vote was private, you can't talk anyone into anything because you vote alone.So if you pic red because you don't trust trust others and it's safer, then 49.9% or 41% percent of people pick blue, that percentage die, so a 100% red vote is necessary, which is impossible, especially among religious people. But, if people trust each other enough, then only 50.1% have to vote blue, and no one dies.The idea boils down to if we are to live in a high trust society are we willing to make high trust choices, or selfish ones and continue this dystopian shithole? Now consider which those who are more comfortable in this dystopian shithole and ask yourself if you really want to exist among them.
Here's some pictures you guys might find interesting
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>>534604014LolBut if the majority press red that means the minority press blue?
The answer is the same as it has always been, stop fucking infighting and kill the jews making the buttons.
>>534604109Y axis is the color you choose, x axis is the voting result, internal boxes are a corresponding outcome. I didn’t make it.
Basically, my terms for pressing the blue button are the total and utter destruction of the state of Israel and worldwide jewry. You bring me TKD, I'll press your blue button
>>534599270I'd press the blue button because I don't want to live in a world where over 50% of button pushers are the type to press the red button.>b-b-but majority in reality are red button pusherssee picrel
>>534603720The red/blue choice at face value, is a measure of how much risk you're willing to take.But the moral (philosophical) justifications people make for their choice or how they feel about other button pushers, does a LOT to reveal underlying psychology. That's reveal is what makes the question so interesting.
>>534604222Would you kill red button pushers before they could push red?
>>534604266Absolutely nuke them off the face of this Earth like the disease on humanity they are
>>534599445>blue>dies You love to see it, don't we folks?
>>534599605>low iq>press blue cause red button bad cause kill>mid iq>press red because if everyone presses it everyone lives and you'd have to be stupid to risk it for no reason>high iq>press blue because a world of selfish midwits would suck ass
"logical" red voters getting their brains absolutely melted by the fact that every large poll for this question has had a blue victory.
>>534604211I know, but whoever made it posted a contradiction
>>534604326Of course you would. You're a selfless blue button pusher who does what's morally right; an all around heckin good guy, and after all, what's a little bit of mass murder - they deserve it after all. They'd let you die.I would hope your answer helps you understand that you're objectively evil, but I know it won't. You think, in your entitlement and resentment, that you're actually justified in murdering billions of people because they wouldn't save you from yourself.
>>534604397This is actually a fantastic revelation into the mind of a blue button pusher - he's swayed by popularity contests, and even in the case where this is not a popularity contest, but it sort of looks like one, he's utterly convinced he's right "because its popular".So let me quickly inform you on a couple facts:Red always wins every poll. When blue wins, red also wins.When red wins, blue losesBlue has only won every poll, so far.
>>534604397What's your point? Red pushers are fine in both scenarios so they don't care.
>>534604222>people on twatter are suicidal, retarded, and narcissistic Shocker, and you are just showing that by saying how "you don't want to live in that world" that you're a narcissist who would rather die than actually face the fact that you are wrong.
>>534604222>see picrel85% of indians are not on the internet yet
>>534604407>you're objectively evilI'm necessary evil. Humans are a disease on the world and themselves. Stop acting like diseases and you wouldn't need to be purged.
>>534604633That's why I'm okay with this>>534604326while this other retard doesn't get it>>534604407
>>534604337>press blue cause red button bad cause killHere he openly admits that the bluetards don't understand the dilemma.>press red because if everyone presses it everyone lives and you'd have to be stupid to risk it for no reasonSo far no one has been able to actually refute this logic, its all just been logical fallacies and seething.>press blue because a world of selfish midwits would suck assThat is the world of blue, the world made up of retards and tard wranglers who need to scream out to everyone "HEY GUYS LOOK HOW GOOD OF A PERSON I AM I RISKED DEATH FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTED TO DIE/IS TOO RETARDED TO KEEP THEMSELVES ALIVE THAT ISNT A LITERAL TODDLER LOOK HOW MUCH OF A GOOD PERSON I AM GIVE ME UPDOOTS AND GOLD"
>>534604402Alright you might just be retarded.
>>534600457Genuinely, from the interactions I've had with blue button pushers, that result would actually be a net benefit for mankind. I know most see this question as binary red/blue, but it's a spectrum. Reds will vote blue (and blues red) with different risk profiles. The insinuation that "red can't cooperate" is objectively wrong. Red can cooperate, but they value their own lives more than the risk being presented. That's fine, you might say it's cowardly, but it's a perfectly logical, reasonable, and moral position to take.Where it gets interesting is in the justifications, and in the justifications you see from blues - not universally but you can check >>534604076 >>534604093 to get an idea, is an enormous amount of narcissism, entitlement, and resentment that drives psychopathy >>534604647Blue isn't an inherently immoral choice, but the majority of people choosing blue are doing it for grossly immoral reasons.They're the types to tell you to get the vaccine or DIE.Know your enemy. The blue pusher is your average antifa, communist, libtard, leftist. The kind of person who genuinely wants to kill millions of people and would celebrate it.
>>534604792>They're the types to tell you to get the vaccine or DIE.>Press the red button or DIEprojecting much jeet?
>>534599270False premise. Reality is everyone is under the crusher.
>>534599270>>534599445>>534599605I'm sick of this retarded fucking spam.
>>534604792>I'm a red button pusher just like the 2nd and 3rd worldersI'm sorry you're too low IQ to think beyond the first step.
>>534604337
>>534604076This would have been better if they made it a trolley problem instead of the green button. You can pull the lever to make the train hit red instead of blue and only you know what the ratios were because you were.
>>534604397Also, I glossed over your image, but this image does not apply to red, it applies to blue.Red doesn't need anyone to just-Red chooses to live and that's it. Whatever happens otherwise, happens. They've squared themselves away. They do not need anyone to do anything, but it would be to their benefit if they did.Blue on the other hand, actually does need half of everyone to justBy posting this you just show you don't even understand your own position and arguments very well. You probably took it off twitter seeing a bunch of others misusing and posting it with a lot of likes, and because you care so much about popularity, you thought that made it correct when applied to red.
>>534599670>>534600074ok but india outnumbers the west and they all get one vote each
>>534600337>I wish this shit was realAnd I wish blue pushers would die regardless if they were majority or not. Come to think of it, it's exactly like the covid garbage. I took the vax unfortunately as I was younger and a too uncaring about my health but it doesn't seem to be as catastrophic as much as it was an experiment or a warning sign. If someone took the vax and still didn't snap out of it and is filled with rage, they deserve whatever the fuck they're gonna come up with next. If the vax is the reason my life turns to shit, so be it... I deserve it.
>>534604908India's apex predator is the train. They'll all choose whichever puts them in unnecessary danger so blue.
>>534599270op is retard
>>534600020No, you and all the other people arguing about red va blue are what kikes want you to be. Talking about nonsense bullshit that doesn’t actually matter.Mister I’m so smart full of myself this is what the Jews want you to do kanker Belg
>>534600020You can always spot a retard leftist a mile away with shit like this.... "no please bro put yourself in a position to die because it's for the greater good and you need to do this because of everyone else"Fuck off faggot ass nigger faggot
>>534603397What happens when your half of your children or nephew/nieces bash the blue button? Did you account for an automatic 4% voting red or blue for example?
>>534604900>leaf btfos bongfirst time for everything I suppose
>>534604981you are retarded
>>534605036Under 5yo btw
>>534605017Shut up nigger. The buttons are a metaphor for red vs blue politics, it's why so many liberals like Destiny are choosing blue.Logic vs suicidal empathy trying to save everyone by risking yourself and other people. Literal metaphor for refugees welcome.
>>534599270Even for r-ddit standards, this is some forced ass shit.
>>534599270OP is third world retard
>>534604792Its a issue I call the Subversives and the useful idiots. The subversives are the ones who come up with the plans and spread propaganda. They as their name implies subvert. While the useful idiots play the role of amps and carrriers. They are the people without critical thinking skills who just repeat what they are told "trust the experts" and "studies show" kind of stuff. But neither can actually handler reality well. The subversives despite not being called idiots are retarded, they are not intelligent they are just better at lying than the useful idiots. They rely on logical fallacies, gaslighting, and other dishonest shit to get by. they are what can best be described as eternal midwits.
>>534605163How are bluefags my problem?
>>534605115Kids are selfish and dumb, they're gonna pick red to save themselves the second they hear there's a chance to die pressing blue.Red is both the smart and dumb option. Dumb people who only think "I wanna live" and smart people who realize no one has to die and there's no risk if everyone chooses red, and anyone who doesn't it's their own fault.
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>>534605163Once again placing the blame on red when you can choose not to press blue. No one is making you press blue, yet you push it anyway and risk death for people who are either suicidal or too retarded to understand. Which means you either want to die, are a retard who needs to be saved, or a narcissist who wants to virtue signal.
>>534605163No one dies if everyone chooses red anyways dipshit.
>>534604786>>534599445Majority press: Red = I liveMinority Press: Blue = I dieIf the majority press red, then the minority have pressed blue. The person who posted this is retarded and so are you
>>534605048>534605048▶>File: 1778146144924308.jpg (148 KB, 1809x841)kys eglin kike
>>534605017I actually think this question is a big deal.>>534605123>The buttons are a metaphor for red vs blue politicsWell, that's true but also not. This isn't something intrinsic to political parties. Some reds vote democrat, some blues vote republican. That's very important to keep in mind.I basically agree with you but I just wouldn't apply it as political parties necessarily.It's basically individualism vs collectivism, but also combines with personality traits - narcissism, entitlement, and resentment - being the big three I see in a lot of blues. Certainly the most vocal anyway. The traits line up with basically every suicidal retarded cult imaginable. From covid to communists, the people threatening everyone "for the greater good" are all blue pushers.
>>534599270I push the red button because I want blue retards to get crushed. blue button pushers are the reason society is shit right now. Fuck them.
The problem is brandead and obviously red is right button.Mire interesting problem is would you push red if you would survive with fucked up earth for example.
>>534605260>we should live in a world full of people with no long terms plans, no impulse control, and think only about preserving themselvesyeah I'd rather push the blue button
>>534605246third world poorfaggot>>534605261selfish retard mutt, didnt expect anything else lol. just look at japan vs USA when flooding happens, most likely a nigger poster.
>>534599270You faggots are still talking about this? Fucking move on.
>>534605273>>534605286>>534605339
>>534605343I'd rather you push the blue button too so you die when I slap that red button down and cull the retards who didn't figure out everyone can just press red and be safe.
>>534605317m8 you are so retarded you can't even accurately represent the fucking vote we're talking about. I didn't even remove your "a retard" for red. All I did was, correctly, put the blue button pusher on the tracks to reflect that he is putting himself at risk by pushing blue.He is not standing off to the side watching.
>>534605260It depends how you frame it. If you explain logically without bias, kids aren’t going to understand. They’re going to mash the button of their favourite colour.
>>534605372No, it's fun to talk about this.You can just hide the thread and move on instead.
creating a low trust society is what the jew wantjew thread
>>534605421And that's why there's a coordinated effort to get rid of you red button pushers. Don't blame us, you started it.
>>534605432juden bot spotted
>>534605402>no counter>just cries kike to copeShitskins are furious that people aren't going to risk their lives to save them from themselves.
Breaking news everyone. If you press the red button you're safe from the new Hantavirus that's getting shilled. Blue button pushers will need to find some science to trust
For me it's not about survival. It's about killing the blues who are clearly liberals who put society at unnecessary risk for other people for no reason.I want them to die.
>>534599530*Pressing the red button 10,000 times*
>>534605297Holy shit dude. You literally need to sound it out? Look at the fucking color. That is YOUR hypothetical choice. Then follow that row. >If I choose blue, and the minority chooses blue, I die.>If I choose red, and the majority chooses red, I live.Yes the results of the poll are the same. The difference being expressed in the chart is what option YOU chose. Holy fuck man.
>>534605461This is "left can't meme" levels of retardation.
>>534605497>acts like a nigger>calls others shitskinyeah not wasting my time on third world retards who presses red for no reason, go back to india thirdie lol.
>>534604908>minorities>outnumberTop kek
>>534605370
>>534599270They doing some scientology stuff here, that not ok with my organs.
>>534605537>acts like a niggerYou are having a mental breakdown because you're not getting bailed out by other people. That is the epitome of nigger behavior. Also AI slop fuckin jamboy really can't help himself. >yeah not wasting my time on third world retardsSame, that's why I am not picking blue, cry moar, dalit.
>>534605433Cool, so the dumb nigger kids will be purged too.
>>534605461Okay "Law of Jante" retard.
>>534605433Kids aren't that stupid, but even if you assume they are the moral argument (you are a coward for not trying to save innocent retarded babies) remains true no matter what you change the threshold to?So really think about this:If the threshold for saving everyone were 99% instead of 50% - would you still be pushing blue, or would you be a spineless coward who hates children and push red?If you would push red, why do you think anything meaningfully changed about the 50% threshold?Oh, that's right, something did meaningfully change. It wasn't the moral argument though.It was the risk.So when you know it's suicide to push blue, you switch to red.And all you have to understand here, is that what you think is suicide (99%) - that is what reds think at 50%.There is no point pressing blue to save eleventy billion innocent babies if you and the babies both die. That is what red thinks will happen.The moral argument being made is actually a form of moral aggression - emotional blackmail. You're trying to shame reds to change votes (a tactic that does work predominantly on the blue psychology, if you know leftists you know how right I am about this), however the argument is hollow and meaningless to the actual risk assessment and accounted outcomes. It's just rhetoric.
>>534605492no your image makes no sense >>534604981
>>534599270Im a white nationalist and I choose red. Even as a white nationalist I can deny self destructive whites from being a part of the ethnostate. We dont need all the whites only the best of them
>>534599670>Suicidal empathy is western codedExplains a lot.
>>534605512Well unfortunately for you, red button pushing doesn't kill bluesThe 'best' you get here is letting them die (by their own choice)
>>534604942That's funny, I didn't take the vax. I trusted society to not be retarded and take proper measures in not spreading the kingflu, rather than injecting themselves with jewish slop.Meanwhile just like you did then, you choose the safe option as presented by the overlords, instead of trusting people, unaware of the consequences that it brings.
>Thanos was the good guyThis is how retarded all you red button pushers sound. Now check out picrel and fight me for the next 3 hours.
>>534605647Not ingesting all that. Fact is some people you love will press blue whether you like it nor not, whether they have adequate mental capabilities or not. Will you proudly wear their blood on your hands?If you are an unloved loner I don’t blame you one bit for pressing red.
>>534605674Its not really empathy, they're not taking other people feelings into account they are doing it because they think it will make them look good.
>>534599605well. if this is true then blue wins anyways what's the matter if I don't press anything then?pressing could mean accepting some demonic contract after all
>>534605433Letting kids be involved ruins the question. Kids have no idea what they are doing. they should be exempt.
>>534605647I'd push red no matter what cause I can't trust that intel. If it's 99% they'll be saved anyway without my vote.
>>534605754But then you have to reframe the dilemma.
>>534605736>quippy capeshit>can't address the actual dilemmaWhy are redditors like this?
>>534605736>press red and you have a 50% chance to die and half your family will die>press blue and if 50% press blue you live!yep that's the same dilemma!
>>534605741>didn't read lolWell, that just tells me you're intellectually dishonest and don't even want to engage in a discussionI'll put this more simply for you:Pushing red is letting people die, not killing themReds don't think they have to save everyoneReds think pushing blue will result in more deaths, not fewer
>>534605461Wut?
>>534605736>an actual (((Marvel))) argumentYou have to go back.
>>534605822Pushing red is not letting people die. It reduces the death count of the blue genocide game when they fail their optional gamble to save da children.
>>534605783>>534605815>>534605849>If I were Thanos I would've snapped my fingersYou can't refute it. You red button pushers are the bad guys
>>534605537Wut?
>>534605881There is nothing to refute, you are presenting an entirely different dilemma because you know you cant argue why pushing red is bad.
>>534599270I'm confused.Who is shown the option? Everyone or only a select number of people?If everyone (or a very big number of people), choosing red is the obvious answer since you are guaranteed to live. A few liberal pseuds who pressed blue will die but who cares. Everyonw ith a brain will pick red.But if the option is presented to just a few thousand or million people, then choosing red is basically suicide, right? Since you'll probably not have a functioning society if red wins.
>>534605876Pressing blue just needlessly adds yourself to the death toll. Paradoxically, it’s likely more people die if you choose blue. Of course this assumes that there’s no possible way that blue actually wins.
>>534605952You only need 10 strong white men to make anything
>>534605922No, it's the same dilemma. One side wants to wipe out the other 50%, other side wants to wipe no one out. Same 50%. While you're calling blue button pushers dumb, you red button pushers are the morally reprehensible ones, literally the evil of this world.
>>534605952If hardly anyone was shown the options, then it defeats the entire point of the game.
>>534605754It doesn't completely ruin the question, it just changes the risk assessment by trying to add more value to the blue button than existed in the original question, which will sway some people, and it does muddy up as a result, how reliable the question is for sussing out the libtard psychopath types.>>534605876Pushing red is letting people die. I know this is a very big issue and blues struggle to understand it. I will try to make it simple for you:This 'game' is being run by a supreme being that can instantly kill billions.The supreme being is what murders blues, not redsLetting die, as much as you may want to believe otherwise, is not the same thing as doing the actual killing.
>>534599270Change the way you ask!List different people by: races, religions, nations etc and then ask who ze voters would rather save! It would be much more fun.
>>534605952That is only if people are retarded enough to press blue, and the people who press blue are not going to be the ones which keep society going. How many fucking "journalists" and "sandwich artists" do you think are keeping up society?
>>534605997Why does red want to wipe anyone out? Red may simply hope everyone picks red but we're not willing to risk our own lives over it.
>>534599270>>534599445blue so I have the chance to die
>>534605123Indeed and no natsoc button so who cares.
>>534605701>Well unfortunately for you, red button pushing doesn't kill blues>The 'best' you get here is letting them die (by their own choice)This, bluefags are mentally ill and in an ideal world have all of their freedoms restricted so they don't harm themselves and others with their nonsensical beliefs.>>534599445They aren't even "righteous" all choices are equally moral
>>534605997>No, it's the same dilemmaIts not, and you know its now. One is a matter of individual choice on a mass scale while the other is a matter of one person. I am not forcing someone to pick blue and red does not cause them to die. It is there choice in blue that causes them to die.
>>534599670>>534605674trueblue - canadians off themselves in the suicide podred - indian immigrant population unaffected>>534603720blue takes vaxx booster and SSRIs in a false hope of a greater good and moral superiorityred rawdogs life
I think the whole framing of the two buttons have been very bad for thinking about the actual core dilemma being asked because it simplifies it down to being an IQ question. Instead the societal question being asked is; Which is more preferable for the long-term survival of a society?1. should the population in general be obligated to save those too stupid to save themselves (at their own risk) because the latter may have some specialist traits that are desirable for the whole of the nation, or2. should the population prefer to consider the above as deadweight and thus be willing to let them go, reasoning that there will be fewer people in the short term but the remainder will be more competent and fill in all those holes.
>>534606052Because for his argument to work he needs to make it seem like red is a violent and oppressive force which blue is a victim of and not both simply being decisions which lead to one living (red) and one potentially dying (blue).
>>534605736Wut?
>>534606052>>534606105>I'm just one person, so what if over 50% of us decided blue button pushers should dieAnd that's why you need to be culled so there's less of you red button pushers to tip the scale so everyone lives. Blue did nothing to you and you still want to snap them away.
>>534606128In the end it does come down to intelligence. If someone is dumb enough to choose death for whatever reason then they will die, expecting people to risk death to save them leads to society developing this unhealthy death cult mindset where you need to die for retards in order to be seen as a good person.
>>534606128You’re both intellectualizing and emotionalizing the problem, which is fine. It was asked in a way that you can justify your reasoning in any way. But yes, I think it’s desirable to live in a world full of people who value their own lives. Whether or not that makes them more competent is hard to determine. Certainly more competent at staying alive, which is a gigantic piece I would say.
>>534606221>Blue did nothing to youYes they did, blue is harming society by encouraging self destructive behavior
>>534605952See my argument here: >>534604792I actually believe most blues are maladaptive retards who are a net drain on human civilization because of their "suicidal empathy" (so to speak). More like parasites that try to force people to look after them at gunpoint.Not all the blues though (some are good people)>>534606071I'd argue the natsoc (and every other patriotism) is the blue button. Consider it like this: Could you get a US Marine unit to collectively push blue?It's fucking easy right? Of course you could.But that's a high trust group who already risk their lives for each other and have an interest in none of their brothers dying. e.g. Patriots. Nationalists. etc.Where this differs from the typical blue psychopathy that I've been talking about for most of the thread, is the inherent value in the people you're saving, and the risk involved. High trust means you can take that gamble and probably win. It's a much lower risk prospect than the original scenario - which is every single human on earth, including everyone who is absolutely nothing like you and who adds absolutely zero value to you and your society (in many cases even a genuine net drain)When I said earlier that the difference between reds and blues was one of risk assessment, this is what I meant.When I say that blues are psychopaths, it's because their moral justifications reveal their -actual- motivations for pressing blue, and it's not selfless wholesome goodness, it's narcissism, poor risk assessment, and virtue signalling/group approval; all typically followed up by expressed murderous intent towards reds for not 'joining the gang'.
>>534599270The problem is that this is an IQ test.I have several people in my life who are absolute morons, but they are very loving and kind people. They would press Blue for whatever reason. Maybe they even misunderstand the question.I press blue not for my own sake, but for the sake of those who are dumb enough to press blue. Just because you're dumb doesn't mean you're not a good person and worth having. High IQ does not make people good. We all know the archetype of the evil scientist. So just press blue, and we're all gonna make it.
>>534606302I'm not emotionalizing the problem at all, those are two very objective ways to look at it. I don't know what traits a person who would press blue might have that would be serve some important function to the overall health of a society or nation, but it COULD be there. Then again maybe the fact that we don't know or have not tried figuring out what that is means we should do so, so that we get one step closer to definitively answering the question of which method is better.
>>534599270Wait... what happens if i press both at the EXACT same time?
>>534606221So once again you are showing that you cannot actually address the dilemma because you know you cannot defend your position since not picking blue ends with no one dead while picking blue means you need a majority to pick blue.>And that's why you need to be culledAnd here the retard drops the mask of sanctimonious bullshit to reveal he is a rabid psycho who wants to kill people who disagree with him and won't die for his retarded choice. This is the average bluefag. The difference here is your death by pressing blue is on you, while culling people who pick red would mean there is blood on your hands.
>>534606359>>534606436>Let me project my insecurities and make blue button pushers a scapegoat to justify my actionsHow many times are you going to fall for this trick? No, how about you just admit you can't function in a high trust society and leave the rest of us alone.
>>534599791That's why blue won. It's all the Indians who voted.
>>534606425you get en error message saying "try again"
>>534606374>I press blue not for my own sake, but for the sake of those who are dumb enough to press blueNo you press blue to let everyone know you are the kind of person who would do that so you can get praise and validation for it. You are a narcissist who needs to virtue signal and let everyone know what a moral and upstanding person you are. When in reality you don't actually care about them or anyone else. Its why you entered this thread in the first place just to say this.
>>534606529Nice fiction. You should be a fantasy writer. I could make the same argument that the red pressers entered the thread to brag about how smart they are.
>>534606374There are not enough people in the world that are dumb enough to press blue or dumb enough to think pressing blue will save them.All blue does is start a genocidal game and picking blue increases the death count. Only pressing blue can ever cause death or change the overall outcome of deaths or no death. You are a murderer if you press blue. Pressing red will either cause no deaths or reduces the total death toll created by blues.
>>534606464And now that the retard has failed to push that the dilemmas were the same he has to cope and say that I am projecting even though I literally quoted him saying he wanted people who disagree with him getting culled. But this is just par for the course, he gets btfo and he enters a delusional state to cope. >you can't function in a high trust societyA high trust society is one where you know you do not need to press blue to save some retards, where you expect people to know that red will lead to know deaths if pressed while there is a chance of death with blue.
>>534606404It doesn't matter. After all the blue pushers die we will still have billions of potential problem solvers left over, and they'll have much more space and resources to work on it. While extincitonism is evil there is much to be said in favour of controlled population reduction.The inability to let stupid people cull themselves is how Jews are able to torture us by leading us into a civilisatory death trap with fake human rights policies. Suicidal ideation of universal kindness is equivalent to letting hyenas eat you alive.
>>534606464A high trust society cannot exist with morons that cannot be entrusted with something as basic as self preservation. You're no different than the foot licker who expected women not to report him because he was doing something stupid. No we won't save your moronic ass, keep crying.
>>534606374If this were a vote that only involved my close family, I would be far more inclined to push blue. I understand your sentiment in this respect.However, where I differ from you on this is when we expand the voting population out to the entire world.My vote is now incredibly dilutedWhether I wish to save such family members or not, I simply cannot in any meaningful way do so.At this point my risk assessment switches from "save everyone" (in the family) to "stop loss" (some of the family must survive)Which is why I will always pick red in the global scenarioBut could be swayed to blue if the risks reduce and the value increases by enough
>>534606618The original poll showed a vast majority blue victory btw.
>>534606722What do you mean by that?Red wins every poll.
>>534606567>Nice fiction. You should be a fantasy writerIts not fiction its the reality of the situation, you came here just to say how you would totally save your dumb friends just to show how good of a person you are.>I could make the same argument that the red pressers entered the thread to brag about how smart they areYou can't since the argument relies on you being here just to say how much you want to save your dumb friends, you didn't need to bring up your dumb friends, you didn't need to say a single thing about them at all. But you did because ultimately this isn't about being good or "doing the right thing" its about you projecting how much of a upstanding individual you are to get validation from others.
>>534599270Prous blue voter here, im just morally better than you silly reds. You guys just love murdering babies and i just.... dont. Kinda like aborting babies, you guys are like the liberal young women, you both love to murder babies.
>>534606567>>534606722Another Law of Jante retard.
>>534604222That problem is so fucking stupid, that means if you press red you're guaranteed survival. Anyone who pushes blue in that instance deserves to die for being a fucking retard
Blue button is groceries in the open at the storeRed button is groceries under lock
Hey retard. Your blue vote is not gonna save people. One vote is not enough to save anyone.
>>534606747You can choose to interpret it that way, and once again I can do the same about you. You came here just to brag about how smart you are. Notice how this is simply an insult.
>>534606666>A high trust society cannot exist with morons that cannot be entrusted with something as basic as self preservation.Fuckin checked
>>534599270I think the funniest thing about this whole debacle is how Red button pushers feverishly keep moving the goalposts and reframing the arguement to try and frame themselves as intellectual and moral superiors.It's all very modern right-wing coded. They desparately want to be the cool composed ones making epic dunks on the I AM SILLY strawmen.The fundemental question being asked is this:>What do you value more, survival at any cost (Red) or not killing others (Blue)?That's all there is to it. But the red button camp seem to REFUSE to accept that they're that type of person. They're kicking and screaming and calling everyone else retards and repeatedly running polls over and over in various places with increasingly biased alterations to the premise until entropy gives them their preferred results.
>"I press red because I'm a smart white person">"anyway red is going to win because all the blacks jews and indians are going to vote red"How do red button pressers manage to have such conflicting thoughts?
>>534606634>>534606666>>534606800>blue button pushers deserve to die because I can't fathom everyone surviving including me so I save myself at the risk of killing othersThat's your basic stance. High trust society is not having to worry about some red pusher thinking they can push red with no consequence>hur dur that's the premiseAnd that's why you should be culled
>>534599670Blue button is suicidal empathy.Also a couple things:It barely won on twitter with nothing on the line between a bunch of 1st worlders.It won't win in a real scenario.Also an explanation of the morality for retards:Everyone is responsible for themselves.Pushing red->survivePushing blue->die unless enough people push itNobody is responsible for others pushing blue.The question doesn't make sense from game theory perspective, as there is a clear winner choice.Blue "wins", as in gets what red gets anyway, on a condition.Voting for blue is retarded and people only do it because of how the question is worded.
>>534606527Oh... I see. Um ok then
>>534606796You don't know what Janteloven is.
>>534606842Blue Button literally requires the majority to save you if you press it, that is having to lock your doors, that is no self service refills, that is locked food at the grocery store.
>>534606874>your Aunt is dumb for picking blue but somehow you're not dumb for doing the exact same thing
>>534599270The Bellybutton
>>534606919Blue button requires high trust to press. Red button is fuck you got mine, therefore shoplifting and therefore locked groceries.
Here's why Scandi retards pick blue:The ten rules state:You're not to think you are anything special.You're not to think you are as good as we are.You're not to think you are smarter than we are.You're not to imagine yourself better than we are.You're not to think you know more than we do.You're not to think you are more important than we are.You're not to think you are good at anything.You're not to laugh at us.You're not to think anyone cares about you.You're not to think you can teach us anything.
>>534606978https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante
>>534599860For people who think blue is high trust:In a high trust society, you can trust others not to be retarded and constantly kill themselves with things.In a high trust society, you can trust others to push red and opt out of a suicide pact.
>>534605028Damn, you must enjoy your nigger society then, mutt.>>534605017You are right, it's pointless arguing, but we are here anyway, aren't we, might as well shitpost.At least I'm shitting on kikes too while at it.>>534605028>muh american kike political trans autismBoth leftards and rightoids disgust me, americans in general do, you are so stuck up your own asses with left vs right, red vs blue that you can't even see the people around you anymore, all you see is targets.Think about it without your faggot politics nigger, if between 50% and 100% of people vote blue no one dies, while between 50,0..01% and 99,9...9% of red votes, someone certainly dies. It is impossible for everyone to pick red, there will be blue voters, but it is certain that shitskins will unanimously pick red.If blues die you're stuck in a shitskin hellscape much worse than now. If blue wins and everyone survives, you can use the results of the vote to marginalize shitskins and segregate them as unfit for society. t's a global vote, it would absolutely hold weight in ultimately exposing shitskins and kikes for the subhumans they are.
>>534606943>refusing to risk your life for no reason is "fuck you I got mine"
>>534606978if this was my belief then i would press red, not blue
>>534605647This leaf is so raped, holy shit. Did you really extrapolate your conclusion from a retard poisoning the well? Find any position and at least one person on your side will make your position look bad. But only a leaf deals in absolutes.You just can't model what the actual blues are thinking, that's all. You're clearly upset at what some blues told you and you're projecting it on the rest. Back on topic, changing the scenario as you did is not as clever as you think because it also changes the decision making. Simply put, blues understand that a large percent of the populating, including many loved ones, are going to press blue. Having the threshold at 50% makes the risk assessment lean towards it being a worthwhile effort to push blue and that super rationality will triumph (again) over the gay ass game theory mentality and individuals (TM). It goes the other way once you cross the threshold of viability ~80% because even accidental and impulsive reds alone will be pushing the other 20%. Your scenario swap that forces the blue that once called you an ebul selfish bastard to vote red does not change the answer for this scenario. Forget about trying to force the virtue signalling, suicidal empathy angle, it won't work now or ever and you're only convincing other reds with your mentality. There are a hundred reasons to vote blue including selfish reasons that do not involve displaying virtue or feeling good about themselves. And by the way, redditors and other leftist circles use the exact same arguments for red. Any platform that discusses this does, in fact. You need to let go of the blue presser that pissed you off a week ago.
>>534606874>You can choose to interpret it that wayYou need to rely on plausible deniability because you know for a fact that you are incapable of arguing how its not the case. >I can do the same about youYou can't and wont for reasons that have already been said. You are just coping with the fact your bullshit was called out and need to say how I am the same because you know you are wrong.>You came here just to brag about how smart you areOnly I haven't done anything to say how smart I am, while you have been virtue signaling from jump. >Notice how this is simply an insultIts not given its non applicable in my case and in your case its just the reality of what you are doing, and if you feel insulted then maybe ask why that is and then maybe think you should stop doing it? I mean you are using people you claim to be your friends in an anonymous internet argument to virtue signal. I don't think they would agree with you calling them dumb, that is if they even exist in the first place and you didn't just make them up just for this situation
>>534599270Great, another one of those faggoty-ass useless button threads to divide and conquer this board.I'm almost suprised OP isn't a memeflag
>>534606926Correct. One person press blue out of lack of understanding. The other person press blue to save the first person. The first one is a mistake, the other is an act of trying to protect those who can't protect themselves. (because they are not very smart)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0qjK3TWZE8Saw a somewhat similar experiment on a Britcuck show.Split or steal on the golden balls. One Britnigger pysched the other Britnigger out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0qjK3TWZE8
>>534606896>That's your basic stanceIts not since everyone lives if they press red, the act of not choosing blue spares them while blue is the only button where death is a factor. Meanwhile you are saying that people who don't want to die because you picked the death button should be culled which is not a choice of theirs but something you are doing. Thus you show you don't actually care about saving people and are some psycho who is mad people won't save you from your own stupidity.
>>534604222Ok now put them in a real situation and not a gay little twitter people designed to make people feel good about themselves>the enlightened blue button pusher when he realizes most of his cohort will actually push red when their life is actually on the line
>riggers still trying to cope with being the untrustworthy factor of society that spreads insecurity and selfishnessYou really are jewish niggers.
>>534607197twitter poll*
>>534607197>I-If it came down to it everyone would press red like me so I am totally not a selfish cunt!Rigger cope
>>534606896Who said we will let you cause harm to yourself? bluefags need to have their freedom of choice taken away from them before they even get to press anything since they clearly cannot consent with such a low IQ. A civilized society will have you all institutionalized for the reckless disregard of your own lives. If you don't want to get away from the crusher then we'll just have to drag you out of there and seal you away for good. You are sick and that's why you cannot see anything but savage bloodlust
>>534606741apparently not>>534604222
>>534606891Its like the knight of mirrors making don quijote see himself for what he really is, but they can't handle it
>>534607219Not risking my life, Somali flag.
>>534607252>>534607304The UN is a paper tiger. Thank God.
>>534607251I am a selfish cunt.Most people are but like to pretend they aren't. This is a simple numbers game and they are not in your favor.
>>534606891No goalposts are being moved, no arguments are being reframed. Red is the intellectual and moral superior to blue and that's self evident from just listening to people's arguments.Even as you post this spiel, you STILL can't accept that letting people die isn't the same thing as murder. You have to redefine meanings to make your own argument - and resentment - justified, not understanding nor caring how immoral you actually are when you do this.I don't think choosing blue is wrong, by the way. I actually support your choice. I just think you're committing suicide.>>534607266Can you explain how red lost that poll?
>>534606722That has been the case of these exeriments at large.
>>534607252Oh nevermind didn't realize there was a based Somali and a gay one.
>>534605621The only ones with (constant) mental breakdowns are riggers trying to justify themselves.
>>534607379>Can you explain how red lost that poll?blue number bigger than red number
>>534607484Right, so I don't know why you're dragging this out like this, but let's continue:Why does it matter if blue has the bigger number? What did red lose?
>>534607472So blue button fags
>>534600937>Have you read the Bible? If you did, you know Jesus would press blue.wow look at that theological argument you posted, you should edit the summa theologiae
>>534599670Correct, but this isn't a good thing. Blue mentality is precisely why Western civilization is dying. Altruism and the desire to "save everyone" will always eventually lead to your destruction. It's like that video that used to circulate around here a few years ago with the white man who jumped into a lake to save a drowning nigger who didn't know how to swim. Despite his best efforts, the nigger flailing in panic prevented the white man from saving him and they both ended up drowning.
>>534607516Why bother trying to argue with a Law of Jante fag?
>>534599270every blue shill is a kike or shabbos goy
>>534607516yeah nice wordplay. You're confusing the poll with the people. The people who press red can't lose. Even though they lost the poll.
>>534607652you don't know what Janteloven is
>>534607765hey retard. what did they actually lose? They keep their lives just the same.
>>534607620Jesus was a jewtherefore he would press blue.
>>534607376If you look at the poll results here >>534604093You get a better idea of how many selfless people there actually are (it's 1.8%)>>534607652Because it's fun.I'm trying the socratic method to try and get him to understand what he actually means when he says "blue won the poll".>>534607765You're the one doing the wordplay. I'm just leading you to the water.Using "blue won the poll" as an argument is just admitting that you make choices based on perceived popularity. That's a very dangerous thing to do. Consider the following:The twitter polls are all predominantly adult white people who live in (relatively, it's getting worse) high trust societies in the 1st world. Those polls don't reflect the opinions or beliefs of the 4.5 billion africans, indians, and chinese that make up the global majority population together.In other words. You are taking a very big risk with your appeal to popularity thinking it reflects what a global population vote would be.
>>534607832That's literally what I said. The answer is in the post.>The people who press red can't lose.
>>534607877I never said i made my decision based on the poll. You misunderstood.
>>534607837Kikes hate Jesus, so they would vote the opposite of what he voted.
>>534607379>you STILL can't accept that letting people die isn't the same thing as murder.See this is what the Red button camp keep doing. They're trying to act like there's some kind of moral technicality or gotcha that makes their position ontologically correct.>durr all of [button camp] are retarded indians/niggers/whatever so [my button] is rightIf you pick the red button, you do so in full knowledge that you are, in-part, directly responsible for the death of anyone who does not pick the button, if Red ends up as the majority.If you pick the blue button, you do so in full knowledge that you will not have anything to do with the death of others, regardless of the outcome.It is just a question of what you value more. Living, or not killing other people.And again, this is just a hypothetical/thought experiment. In a more personal and direct situation I wager most people would err towards the survival-at-all-costs scenario (i.e., you're not just gonna roll over and take it if some fent-addicted nigger starts trying to beat you to death)
>>534599270Red is literally peak "debating atheist" midwitevery single one redfag watches tranime daily
>>534600020The analogies people use for the red vs blue are not great. Choosing blue is more like choosing to have ubiquitous faggotry and child trannies because we have to respect everyone no matter how insane or mentally compromised they might be because respecting everyone in and of itself is an absolute mandate at all other costs. The whole>but your kid or your grandma might be retarded and choose blue too'argument' doesn't hold much sway to me.
>>534607837Jesus was an israelite from jacob and specifically said jews weren't from the house of israel, Jesus was the first jews aren't white poster
Since the reds love to debate this, let me remind them what is at stake here.EVERYONE has to press a button, privately. This includes small children.We are all aware that small children are stupid, and we adults have to protect them from themselves. Assuming you have a small child, you can not make sure he or she presses red. There's a 50% chance they press blue. Do you still press Red?
>>534607962The fact you're bringing up "blue won the poll" is an admission that the popularity of the poll matters to you.Why else would you say anything about it?The fact that "blue won the poll" doesn't matter and doesn't mean anything. It doesn't reflect how a global majority votes, and it insinuates that "red lost the poll" by omission, which is not true. There was no reason to bring it up unless you thought red actually lost something or you were trying to appeal to popularity.>>534608006>some kind of moral technicality or gotchaIt is not a moral technicality or gotcha. Red is not killing you.This isn't refutable. Standing there and watching you die is not the same thing as pulling the trigger.The one pulling the trigger is whatever is running the experiment.Red is watching you drown instead of jumping in the waterYou might find that cowardly and immoral, and it does contribute to blues death, but it is not murder.Would you push blue if you needed 99% of everyone else to also push blue to save everyone?
>>534608259I already talked about this argument here: >>534605647
>>534608259Yes. I can always make more children.
>>534608006>If you pick the blue button, you do so in full knowledge that you will not have anything to do with the death of others, regardless of the outcome.If you shill for others to press blue you are at the very least partly responsible for their death if they actually pick blue because of you convincing them.It's so blatantly obvious that the only people shilling for blue are disingenuous kikes who want to guide others to their death while they themselves press red but lie about it.
>>534607877"Red button does nothing / red lives no matter what" to the end, huh?The day you can see this past the game theory bullshit is the day you can see blue eye to eye.
>>534608273>Why else would you say anything about it?it was simply a correction to this >>534606741
>>534608259Blue-pusher are hiding behind the protection of children like some politician. The better analogy of blue-pushers are like the people that take in some retarded Haitian rapefugee that rape murders their entire family while they are at work. >B-but...I chose love! Mumba is a good boy!is a better analogy. It would be a lot better world if some people were to be culled, a lot of people, based on the consequences of their own actions.
>>534608338In this image >>534604093 you can get an idea of how many people,>want to guide others to their death while they themselves press red but lie about it.It's frankly abhorrent but I was expecting it based on the blue arguments I had been seeing. I actually thought it would be less though.
