Your nationalism is daddy issues with a flag. Lacan would see it immediately. You need a Big Other: nation, race, Trump, tradition, “the West.” Something to certify your identity, because without an external master-signifier your self-image collapses back into lack.So you invent thieves of enjoyment. Migrants stole the jobs. Jews control the banks. Feminists corrupted the women. Liberals ruined the culture. Your politics is fantasy management. Trump works because he performs the Father: vulgar, rich, untouchable, promising the lost wholeness you never had.But the Real keeps leaking through. Loneliness, porn-brain, humiliation, economic failure, no coherent future. So you post harder. You racialise your inadequacy and call it politics.The Jew becomes your ultimate fantasy-subject, blamed for your castration, imagined as the thief of a wholeness you never possessed. The migrant becomes proof that your enjoyment was stolen. Trump is your obscene stand-in Father, selling you permission to enjoy resentment. Your perfect nation does not exist. It is your lack wearing a flag.
shut up moshe
You will never be a real woman
It's funny how leftism criticism largely boils down to statements that are the equivalent of:>You believe birds fly in the sky>You are made to think that rivers flow downstream>You have been conditioned to accept that fire burns
>>534603209You treat your fantasy structure as nature. Birds flying is not ideology. “The Jew stole my country” is. Rivers flowing downstream is not ideology. Needing race, nation, and Trump to stabilise your identity is. You are confusing material reality with the symbolic fiction that gives your resentment a target.
>>534603209It's always ad hominem. No ideas, no sources to back up claims, just pure projections.I can't believe the left is something, people are retarded.
>>534602913Tldr, Jew: Basic bitch generic Liberal Edition, go back to redit Nigger / Glow Nigger / Roastie / Faggot / Lbgt / Them and / or Those, Nigger Jew Faggot Roastie Anon
>>534603311“Ad hominem” would be saying you are stupid, therefore wrong. That is not the argument. Right wing ideology often works through fantasy. The Big Other guarantees identity, then an enemy is invented as the thief of enjoyment. “Migrants stole your future,” “Jews control decline,” “feminists ruined women,” and “Great leader will restore the lost nation” are not your empirical observations. They are fantasy structures that organise your resentment.
>>534602913>Migrants stole the jobs. Jews control the banks. Feminists corrupted the women. Liberals ruined the cultureThese are inventions.It's class warfare.The ruling class decided that the middle class was unsustainable and is working to destroy it.The US Iran war is the final stages of that war.2027 isn't going to be fun if you aren't prepared.
>>534603426What the fuck are you talking about holy shit go back to /lit/ I fucking hate philosophy majors Jesus Christ please commit sodoku
>>534603316The left is just as delusional as rightoids, but have different fantasies. Left-wing ideology can also function as fantasy management. It may install its own Big Other. History, progress, revolution, justice, rquality, “the oppressed,” or “the right side of history.” These become symbolic authorities that certify identity and moral worth to the leftist.
>>534603624Rightoids don't read or think so good
>>534602913>it thinks nationalism is daddy issuesIt would appear you are incapable of defining "nationalism." Go back to india.
- Hey, is that a pajeet throwing garbage down the river?!- No, it's a thief of enjoyment, a projection of your own insecurity, a Big Other who is only there to materialize your inadequacy and embody your inability to rejoin with self.- Oh, gee, I was worried for a minute.
>>534603691India is probably the most nationalist country on earth, precisely for reasons I've already stated.
>>534603636So separate territories makes sense then... racially, culturally, and spiritually, Anon
>>534603706Nobody said littering is imaginary. The point is that your politics starts when you turn a man throwing rubbish into a racial metaphysics of decline. That leap from “someone did something bad” to “the foreigner embodies corruption” is the fantasy structure of your politics.
>>534603728Yeah, that's not what it means to humans.Good luck.
>>534603706Lol Anglo Jew Flag Anon
>>534603800Okay, give your own pick me definition of nationalism and I'll show you it's exactly like what I said.
>>534603684You didn’t disagree with me. Evasive. High verbal IQ. Show flag
>>534602913Every one has a Big Other he larping faggot. Your communist eschatology pretending to be Science is secualr religion taken from faggy Hegel who tried to cope from Kants Ding-An-Sich. You retarded nigger. Lacan is a Kantian project and using he to pwn some enemy but not on yourseld is falling back into the phantasmic reatructure of the Real you cannot encounter because your phantasmas have occupied your perception. Nigger.
>>534603800My meme flag also means good luck towards them and / or those, interestingly enough Anon
>>534603787>"look at this goy, he his basing his entire politics on observing things around him and making generalizations based on that, what an absolute fool"
Well, everybody needs this. And no, it's not a scam, it's the only reason people live. It's a sacred duty to keep your people YOURS
(((Liberals and / or Conservatives))) blah blah blah
>>534603292>Birds flying is not ideology. “The Jew stole my country” is.Is the existence and influence of AIPAC an imagined ideology or an objective fact? > Rivers flowing downstream is not ideology. Needing race, nation, and Trump to stabilise your identity is. Ok let's start with removing jewish, black etc. identity and will finish with removing white / european / western identity last. Sounds good?> You are confusing material reality with the symbolic fiction that gives your resentment a target."Human rights" don't exist in material reality, they're imagined symbolic structures that give your weakness an excuse for existing and are a means of social domination and control over the Other, more powerful and lacking in weaknesses you posses
>>534602913WhatAre you braindead?Racialism is the willful drive away from wholeness, into the unknown of proprietary biome-driven progress and evolution.Racialism is the driving force of Human Speciation which you despise because of an anal para-religious intent of con straining humanity into One formless mythologized Blob that never existed to begin with. Second hand abrahamic universalistic dreams going undercover through psychologization and a thin layer of rationalism.Pic (probably) unrelated
>>534603902Pattern recognition is not the same as turning anecdotes into a religion. You are not “observing reality.” You are selecting whatever confirms your fantasy, then calling the result common sense. Your "evidence” only matters because it plugs into the fantasy first.>>534603877Correct, everyone has a Big Other. The point is not “you have symbolic mediation, therefore you are wrong". Your politics organises lack through specific master signifiers. Then externalises contradiction into fantasy enemies. Your reply actually confirms. You immediately turn “communism,” “Hegel,”, etc, etc into contaminating objects, then discharge jouissance through slurs.>>534603933“Sacred duty” is just the Big Other speaking through you. You have moved from politics into theology. Nation becomes God, blood becomes sacrament, and outsiders become contamination. That is not an empirical argument. That is the fantasy admitting it needs holiness because it cannot justify itself materially.
>>534602913Rarely have I seen so much projection in one post lmao
>>534603292Pakistani rape gangs aren't ideology either.
>>534602913nah I just don't want to live around niggers, Indians, and other net negative human trash.Put me in a corner and I'll murder as many as I can before I'm taken out.
>>534604187Projection of what? Calling it projection is already conceding to the Freudian frame. You are using psychoanalysis to say psychoanalysis is projection.
>>534604177>>534604350Racialism is the willful drive away from wholeness, into the unknown of proprietary biome-driven progress and evolution.Racialism is the driving force of Human Speciation which you despise because of an anal para-religious intent of con straining humanity into One formless mythologized Blob that never existed to begin with. Second hand abrahamic universalistic dreams going undercover through psychologization and a thin layer of rationalism.Pic (probably) unrelated
>>534604236Pakistani rape gangs are just ontological, hermeneutic objects that represent an idealized, projected abstraction of the meta-other, whose queerness is nothing but a fantasized interpretation in your mind, an avatar of the Ur-Foreign.
>>534604306This is precisely the fantasy of contamination. The racialised other is not engaged as a person or even as a policy problem. He becomes the stain that explains why your imagined community is not whole. It is jouissance through disgust masquerading as politics.
>>534604425Racialism is the willful drive away from wholeness, into the unknown of proprietary biome-driven progress and evolution.Racialism is the driving force of Human Speciation which you despise because of an anal para-religious intent of con straining humanity into One formless mythologized Blob that never existed to begin with. Second hand abrahamic universalistic dreams going undercover through psychologization and a thin layer of rationalism.Pic (probably) unrelated
>>534602913Trump ain’t my daddy, real or kike psychobabble stand-in. My daddy is the United States Constitution, i.e. the rule of law, which states, in part, that “Congress shall have the power to declare war,” which kike puppet POTUSes have been ignoring for decades.Rule of law, not of a man or any group of men. A republic. Which we did not keep, so now we have to do the revolution thing again.Sigh.Anyway, unreality insistent fuckers like you are getting the first bullets/nooses/guillotines.
>>534604415“Human Speciation” is not an argument. It is a fantasy of salvation through racial separation. You are accusing me of abrahamic universalism while doing pagan eschatology with genetics jargon. You just replaced God with evolution and soul with biome. The structure is identical: fall, contamination, purification, destiny.
>>534602913i don't want to live around pajeetindians should only exist india or be lynchlet me live with my people in peace you subhuman cockroach
>>534602913I read only the first sentence and Im not reading anymore of this subversive tripe until you unhide your flag. We all know youre in israel right now, you fucking slime. Sage
>>534604541>Anyway, unreality insistent fuckers like you are getting the first bullets/nooses/guillotines.How many weeks until the uprising? Two?You did not escape the Father. You relocated him into constitutional law. The constitution is your sacred text. The republic is your fantasy of restored order. “Rule of law” is the Big Other that supposedly guarantees reality.But the contradiction appears immediately. You say “rule of law, not men,” then fantasise about extrajudicial killing. Once the sacred text fails to guarantee reality, you reach for purification through violence. Your constitution is functioning as a holy relic that authorises revenge for your failed fantasy.
>>534602913>You need a Big Other: nation, race, Trump, tradition, “the West.”you need diversity, inclusion, fag rights and what not just to tap yourself on the back how you're way better than everyone else.your big daddy is just yourself, you have no dreams or ideals or anything. your idea of good society is just endless everyday life that's why you find peace in consumerism, upvotes and total consensusyou are the absolutist while your local nazi is nelson mandela compared to you
You will never feel whole because your politics misidentifies lack as theft.Lacan’s point is that lack is not something migrants, Jews, liberals, feminists, or traitors put inside you. Lack is the structure of subjectivity itself. You became a self through language, law, fantasy, and the Other. That means you were never complete self to begin with.Nationalism sells a fake cure. Find the thief. Purge the contaminant. Restore the lost nation. Then wholeness will return. Everything will finally feel ordered again.But the lost wholeness never existed. Every victory will disappoint you because the hole was not caused by the enemy. If migrants are not enough, blame Jews. If Trump fails to restore the symbolic order, blame the hidden traitors around him. If the nation still feels broken, invent a deeper conspiracy with enemies to explain it.Your politics will never free you from that cosmic lack you've always felt. It only gives that lack a culprit. And that culprit will never satisfy you long term.
>>534605136Yes, the liberal/leftist has his own Big Other. As stated here>>534603636But it does not make your racial mythology true. It just means there are two fantasies here. The liberal fantasy is universal harmony. Your fantasy is restored wholeness through exclusion. Both are fantasies at the end of the day.
>>534604682Creationist antiscientific mentally ill drivelYou have been throughly deconstructed and diagnosed, which means you must be immediately secluded and hospitalized right now.
>>534605818>no argument detected
>>534604177You have a disregard for real events. People that sell drugs in my district are real, 1/2 of our entire money goes to sand nigger gibs, that's real, however somehow an imagniary order dispersed by a global functioning ideology somewhow re-writes the real I encounter into some fantasma. Your Big Other forces you to re-integrate everything you see. You are not allowing yourself to encounter the Real because your imaginar order would break. And you are still a nigger.
>>534605498You will always feel whole because you have contained a stabile cage around your perception. The Other for you is simply a different subject but the Othet you use is an Other that your simbolicak father figure allows you to beat.
>>534605914Racialism is the willful drive away from wholeness, into the unknown of proprietary biome-driven progress and evolution.Racialism is the driving force of Human Speciation which you despise because of an anal para-religious intent of con straining humanity into One formless mythologized Blob that never existed to begin with. Second hand abrahamic universalistic dreams going undercover through psychologization and a thin layer of rationalism.Pic (probably) unrelated
french communist pedophile faggot with 999 jewish pedophile communist faggot friends wants you to know that *you* are pathological for not wanting to live next to objectively violent, smelly and stupid nonwhites. he, the french communist pedophile faggot, is normal. this is very serious science. if you don't get it it's because you're not smart enough. you're not stupid are you?
>>534605498>Lack is the structure of subjectivity itself. You became a self through language, law, fantasy, and the Other. That means you were never complete self to begin with.whats amazing is the gay cult that preaches no one is ever happy was started before 2012 the year the world was destroyed by fag marriage
>>534606132>The Other for you is simply a different subject but the Othet you use is an Other that your simbolicak father figure allows you to beat.
>>534602913>Your nationalism is daddy issues with a flag.Including for Israel? Say Israel should embrace progressivism and have open borders
>>534602913>there is no other. There is nothing beside the immedite, the ego.>race doesn't matter. Nation doesn't matter. Tradition doesn't matter.You are in no position to talk about sprituality or wisdom, as you lack both.An intellectual amoeba like you should just shut the fuck up.
No, I just want to be able to go outside without being surrounded by Jeets everywhere
>>534604094.
>>534604094AIPAC exists. Lobbying exists. Institutional influence exists. The fantasy begins when “a pro-Israel lobby influences policy” becomes “the jew stole my country.” or "the jew runs my country". You turn a real institution into a hidden subject of history, then make “the Jew” your object petit a, the imagined thief of stolen enjoyment.Human rights are symbolic. So are borders, property, money, citizenship, race, and nation. Symbolic does not mean fake. It means sustained by law, language, recognition, and belief.The question is what your fantasy needs the symbolic order to do. Yours needs a racial enemy as the explanation for your lack.>>534606132"B-b-but you have one too" is not a rebuttal.Yours turns enemies or imagined enemies into thieves of enjoyment, contaminants, and causes of lost wholeness.Chuds are the ones pretending their fantasy is nature, biology, tradition, or reality itself.>>534606165“They are dirty and stupid, and the people who disagree are degenerate Jewish communist perverts” is not empiricism. It is your fantasy of purity talking.
>>534603209Don't forget pathologizing.
>>534602913So let's kill kikes and deport nons and murder all sexual degenerates and traitors and see how well your theory holds up.
>>534604177Conflating obvious statistical reality with anecdotes proves you operate in bad faith. It's a shame you'll never realize that we're some of the few that actually want what's best for the world.
>>534602913I can say with certainty I know a hell of a lot more than whoever wrote this drivel
>>534602913>>534603292AI slop.
>>534604425to me they aren't people, they ARE stains upon my society in every measurable metric.Love then so much? Move to India, faggot.
>>534606326Israel is the perfect example of nationalist fantasy.
>>534606957newsflash, every race is tribal, thus nationalistic. No amount of useless philosophy degree gobbledygook you spout will make us hate the other any less, nor vice versa.
>>534606709This whole notion of far-right people being losers who resent immigrants ignores the fact we are fully aware of what will happen when Whites become a minority, unlike everyone else.
>>534602913Everything you just said is pure ideology devoid of material fact. It's a very narcissistic and verbose way of dismissing goyim discontent as fake, crazy, or some other pathologization. It's a strategy to power. Jewish capitalist Zionist power.
>>534606806Stalin already tested this logic. First, it was Kulaks, then revisionists, then Trotskyists, then foreign agents, etc. The Khmer Rouge did the same. Cambodia did not become whole when they rounded up and killed every element designated as the enemy, neither did the Soviet Union. They both became terror states organised around suspicion and witch hunts for impure elements subverting the glorious nation. Before collapsing in on themselves. The purge never cures the lack and satisfies the fantasy. There is always more demand for sacrifices to purify the nation.
>>534603292>You treat your fantasy structure as nature. Birds flying is not ideology. “The Palestinian stole my country” is. Rivers flowing downstream is not ideology. Needing race, nation, and Bibi to stabilise your identity is. You are confusing material reality with the symbolic fiction that gives your resentment a target.You wouldn't dare ever levy these critiques and deconstructions on Jewish power. This is what inherently undercuts your whole argument and exposes it as illegitimate - hypocrisy matters in this regard. Remember lurkers, whenever you see someone like OP picking apart your worldview and justifying their attacks on you, remember the "NAZI method.">Say "No," Ask about Zionism and IsraelDo the same standards you're being judged by get applied to the Jewish race and the illegitimate state of Israel? If not, then you're just dealing with hasbara like this thread.
>>534602913Sounds like a load of Jewish victim blaming bullshit tbqh.
>>534606709> AIPAC exists. Lobbying exists. Institutional influence exists. The fantasy begins when “a pro-Israel lobby influences policy” becomes “the jew stole my country.” or "the jew runs my country". You turn a real institution into a hidden subject of history, then make “the Jew” your object petit a, the imagined thief of stolen enjoyment. Is the AIPAC an objectively real organization run by "the Jew" whose purpose is to further jewish interests by controling the government of US? Yes or no> Human rights are symbolic. So are borders, property, money, citizenship, race, and nation. Symbolic does not mean fake. It means sustained by law, language, recognition, and belief. The question is what your fantasy needs the symbolic order to do. Yours needs a racial enemy as the explanation for your lack. Who is "you" in this case? A political enemy "you need as the explanation of your lack"? How would you prove wrong someone who says that you need a symbolic "rightwing" enemy to explain the failures of progressivism? Lacan's rhetoric is peak postmodern drivel and the easiest way to disprove any position held by a postmodernist is to use postmodernism against him. When you know how to use correct phrases you can "deconstruct" anything and superimpose your "explanation" of it over it but that doesn't mean it's useful or true. It's just a psychoanalitical pseudoscience turned political - "you want a functioning government which punishes crime because you want a daddy" is literally the same retarded tarot reading as "you were angry when punished as a kid because you wanted to fuck your mommy"
>>534607259I didn't say your material conditions, alienation, and suffering are fake. You're explaining your suffering with simple fantasy, a conspiracy with a face.Pure ideological supplementation. Your real suffering caused by multiple complex phenomena, spanning back to long before you were born, is explained away with a fantasy figure behind it. The system produces losers structurally, there is no simple agent behind your suffering.
I only know about lacan from this video and its enough to make me like him without understanding his ideas because im stupidhttps://youtu.be/rJz4OaURJ6U
>>534602913What's the alternative? Globohomo? No thanks.
>>534606709>>534606957>>534607268>>534607895Racialism is the willful drive away from wholeness, into the unknown of proprietary biome-driven progress and evolution.Racialism is the driving force of Human Speciation which you despise because of an anal para-religious intent of con straining humanity into One formless mythologized Blob that never existed to begin with. Second hand abrahamic universalistic dreams going undercover through psychologization and a thin layer of rationalism.Pic (probably) unrelated
>>534602913>nationalism is bad>except for non whites and jews>memeflag
>>534602913>>534603292>The Jew becomes your ultimate fantasy-subject, blamed for your castration, imagined as the thief of a wholeness you never possessed. The migrant becomes proof that your enjoyment was stolen.>Birds flying is not ideology. “The Jew stole my country” is.
>>534602913Faggot
>>534606709>"B-b-but you have one too" is not a rebuttal.It is because you try to superimpose a view from the outside whipe being a part of chain of hysteric politics. You mask yourself as Reason, behind the mask is the face of panic as you feel endagered as the Real moves closer. It will encounter you.
>>534604422Lmao. What a polemical deconstruction of post colonial ethnonationalism!
>>534607982genetic engineering is a far better candidate for evolutionary "progress" given that it's something that can be achieved within decades instead of tens or hundreds of thousands of yearsif you genuinely felt the world would be better off more closely matching your DNA in particular, it would be far more effective to engineer retroviruses to accomplish it directlyif you love your race, it would make sense to convert all others to the same rather than some extermination or segregation agenda
>>534607055“nothing will make us hate the other less” is the mask dropping. Your hatred clearly comes first, then you cherry pick ideas from politics, biology, history, etc, to arrange around it and call it objective reality.Hunger is natural too, does not mean famine or eating disorders are sacred.Nationalism is the real tribal impulse industrialised through the state apparatus, but it is not actual tribalism. You have no real tribal connection to someone 50 miles away in your country. Nationalism is an 18th century invention that manufactures a fantasy tribe, gives it a lost golden age, and gives you a fantasy enemy to justify it.
A great man once explained what OP is doing.>"They would lay down truisms and platitudes; and, if you accepted these, then they were applied to other problems and matters of an essentially different nature from the original theme. If you faced them with this point they would escape again, and you could not bring them to make any precise statement. Whenever one tried to get a firm grip on any of these apostles one's hand grasped only jelly and slime which slipped through the fingers and combined again into a solid mass a moment afterwards. If your adversary felt forced to give in to your argument, on account of the observers present, and if you then thought that at last you had gained ground, a surprise was in store for you on the following day. The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before, and he would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened. Should you become indignant and remind him of yesterday's defeat, he pretended astonishment and could not remember anything, except that on the previous day he had proved that his statements were correct. Sometimes I was dumbfounded. I do not know what amazed me the more--the abundance of their verbiage or the artful way in which they dressed up their falsehoods. I gradually came to hate them." -- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
>>534608752Can you disprove nationalism anthropologically?
>>534608666I'm glad you noticed, Satan.
>>534608814Disprove what exactly? That humans form in-groups?
>>534609130Well you'd have to create a theory that the idea of a state is something imperceptible to humanity, like the social connections needed to support an empire far exceeds the human capability of understanding so you essentially have to lie to everyone. Then again it woudl be silly to say that we understand everything about humanity when humanity has never lived in such a high oppositional environment with so many minorities so there could be mass emergent behaviour we've never seen
>>534609273*high population for instance, all the cultures before modern cultures centered on rivers developed massive empire spanning ethics and religious systems to essentially justify the state
>>534602913>>534604350Your wokeness is daddy issues with a flag. Lacan would see it immediately. You need a Big Other: feminism, ICE, Trump, gender pronouns, “no more borders.” Something to certify your identity, because without an external master-signifier your self-image collapses back into lack.So you invent thieves of enjoyment. There are nazis everywhere. The police hate black people. _____ is too white. Men need to man up and accept strong independent women.But the Real keeps leaking through. Loneliness, twitter addiction, humiliation, economic failure, no coherent future. So you post harder. You tweet 20 times a day and call it social justice.Trump becomes your ultimate fantasy-subject, blamed for your castration, imagined as the thief of a wholeness you never possessed. White people become proof that your enjoyment was stolen. The media is your obscene stand-in Father, selling you permission to enjoy resentment. Your liberal fantasy world does not exist. It is your lack wearing a flag.
>>534602913Yes! This is why we need street shitters in our countries.
>>534602913lol, nigger
>be pseud>spend twenty years understanding human condition >come to realize that the solution is to gas the jews, just like Cletus told you back in third grade before bullying youIncredible hiw much of philosophy is losers pretending to secret knowledge to feel better about themselves
>>534609811Most socialist philosphy is nonsense exactly based on believing they're picking up on some untapped signal bumping around the house of knowledge with dowsing rods and thermal cameras looking for ghosts
>>534608752>>534609130Racialism is the willful drive away from wholeness, into the unknown of proprietary biome-driven progress and evolution.Racialism is the driving force of Human Speciation which you despise because of an anal para-religious intent of con straining humanity into One formless mythologized Blob that never existed to begin with. Second hand abrahamic universalistic dreams going undercover through psychologization and a thin layer of rationalism.Pic (probably) unrelated
>>534602913Wrong board. You're trying to explain issues to people who can't self introvert enough to understand that they're all low IQ pedophiles. If they can't see how talking all day about Epstein, Jews and Indian raping children, loli and age of consent, implies a feverish sexual preoccupation with children, then the simple insight into how right wing politics is a delulu mythology will fly over their heads at height of an interstellar craft flight.You're genuinely trying to use high IQ postmodern philosophy on low IQ pedophiles who can't stop bringing children for even a second (paki rape gangs in this thread).
>>534610164>Second hand abrahamic universalistic dreamsHe is right, that the state is a lie, he's just not aware that he's the one being lied to
>>534609273A state is far too large, abstract, and impersonal to be experienced like a tribe or village. You cannot directly feel millions of strangers as an organic community. Hence the state has to be made imaginable through symbols, but that is not tribalism. It is symbolic engineering using the state. Ancient empires used gods, sacred law, and dynasties. Modern nationalism uses nation, language, race, land, etc.Tribalism is the raw impulse, organic at the scale of family, clan, village, etc. Nationalism is that impulse processed through state machinery. High population and ethnic diversity may intensify conflict. But that does not prove racial nationalism is the natural truth. It only proves states need symbolic systems to manage populations at scale.
>>534602913>Your nationalism is daddy issues with a flag.Uhm...I think it's a bit more than that lol
>>534602913Also do you mean to imply that the opposite of nationalism is mommy issues?
>>534610362So Hitler becoming a dictator to try and make people's lives better through the justification of socialism and shared racial heritage was a wholesale lie?National socialism seemingly throws a wrench in your plan because it allows you to absolutely state the state serves the people and their race and that will deliver them the most happiness. How do other socialists content with this? Since socialism is just some flag you can wrap yourself in to say whatever you want about reality, you'd have to disprove national socialism or empires actually benefiting anybody. Then you're just back to economics, no?I was wondering yesterday if the first lie sold by the state was that it needed to requisition people to mine copper
>>534610362>weasels out of adressing his crypto hegeliansim sonhe doesn't have to adress KantEntire Lacan perception is so deeply poised by leftists it is untrue to itself. Again: Lacan is kantian praxis. Using it against a Other to try cornering it into accepeting ones own imaginary order is staying on the same vector you pretend to critisize. You just try to win.
>>534610513No, the opposite of nationalism is daddy issues with a world map. Nationalism wants the Father as nation. Liberal universalism wants the Father as humanity. Nobody escapes the Father.
>>534610862liberal universalism is intrinsically feminist and gay (jews love it, it's english socialism), and is why modern society randomly started being ran by minorities and women which are completely incompetent. So actually your ideology is the disjointed retarded usurper ideology that has nothing to stand onhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP9412LFP0o&t=124s
>>534610862You don't realize this so I'll enlighten you..You sound incredibly retarded LMAO
>>534610658I'm not claiming to be outside the symbolic order, what's your point? That doesn't change the fact your politics is one big cope.
>>534611119utilitarianism (modern liberalism) is cope and might even be refuted in my lifetime
>>534602913Well what if this but also the kikes? That’s the real trvke
>>534610980So, you're saying, you lost to a bunch of feminists, gays, and jews? The tough, masculine, gun tooting, nationalist got usurped by a bunch of faggots?
>>534611202Yes I already said liberalism is a fantasy.
>>534611255Okay so you know how you were saying shit is made up and doesn't matter? How do you justify your entire ethics system then if it's "fantasy"?
>>534602913Leftist ideas, especially ideas around women, are based off of religion. Human equality is not real and never has been.
>>534602913Sure thing Moshe.And then theres this.
>>534611384and this
>>534602913You will never be a real philosopher
>>534602913Nah, kikes are ruining everything they touch
>>534609335I like how this was ignored. Human equality is the Big Other
>>534611314Lacan would agree with that.>>534611299Symbolic does not mean meaningless. Money, law, property, nation etc, are symbolic. But they still rule your life.Not all fantasies are equal. The Chuds fantasy is a particularly nefarious one, because it posits simple fixes to complex problems. Genociding the jews isn't going to make you happy or fulfilled.
>>534603706>bp
>>534602913who is to blame for the race-consciousness obsession that has infected the public mind over the past several decades??? If the final conclusion you reach after decades of race-consciousness propaganda is that "race is irrelevant and should be ignored politically" then you are certified npc. The conclusion is SUPPOSED TO BE that racial differences are real, good, appreciable, worthy of celebrating and working to preserve and that geographic and cultural isolation(which was the norm for 1M years) is the only way of achieving that.
>>534603426you have a meme flag. you’re jewish. there is no right or left, just jews on both sides. pleb brained faggots like you can’t understand what’s directly in front of them
>>534602913Nationalism is bad>For White peopleIt's good for>Everyone elseUnless it's time for war>Fight for your countryOr for sportsball>Yay the world Cup>Yay the Olympics
>>534611649Oh no!
>>534602913I hate this type of pseudo-phylosophical post-modern drivel so much.>let me, a failed intellectual, tell you about yourself without revealing anything about my own philosophyAll your ilk do is smugly tear down everything you see while offering no alternative. We can all do that.
>>534611649So you symbolically believe in liberalism so that you can pretend to have an ethics system on which to criticize and dismantle liberalism which you say is made upwhile also fundamentally not understanding what liberalism is or that you're actually just a socialist
>>534602913Nope. I am just sick and tired of all leftists shit visions and agendas. They turned to some weird 3th world communism muslim black brown ass fucking annoyance. That's it. I am done with leftist retardations!
>>534611236of course. Final frontier of understanding is fulfillment. Men understand that and, if given chance, will lead happy, sustainable lives of just doing shit they want with their family. However women, jews and niggers lack intellectually capability to be truly fulfilled. They can't just kick back and enjoy, there is always another handbag to buy, another chain to put around your neck or another shekel to scam. It is through this eternal boredom that they get impetus to act, just as it is within men's adaptability that they can deal with increasingly bullshit society to obtain fulfillment they seek.
>>534611649I know Lacan would agree with that. My question is do you agree to that, and if so, what do you think the implications of such a belief is? And while we are here, can we also both agree that class itself is a Big Other, because, similarly to nationalism, you have no real common interest to another person who just has the same relationship to the means of production to you that lives 50 miles away.
>>534611649>Genociding the jews isn't going to make you happy or fulfilled.We can't know that for certain until we do it right ;)
>>534608752So Israel should be dissolved and assimilated into the surrounding region and jews should mix with Arab Muslims until they are no longer jews. Anything else is the fake tribalism of nationalism.
>>534611119My point is, that this isn't a place on which a political thought is formulated the fantasy you superikpose on /pol/ that it looks for tribalism this trying to refute it by stating a state is a complex steucture is in itself true to /pol/, so the question remains why you need to impose this, which is neatly explained when one supposes (pbbly correctly) that you are a crypto-Hegelian or poisonned by hegelianism thus still weaseling out of Kant. You are forcing an order to justify the imaginary order you are in, so your Ego may stay intact.
>>534611623The funny part is he specifically called me out and I answered him. Oh well, what do you expect from a LARPing pseud pretending to be smart on the internet?
>>534612210>entire society is based on the bible>bible says slavery is okay>socialists: actually black slavery is agaisnt the bible>how?>don't worry about it and that's how you get socialism disguised as liberalism and socialists telling people it's liberalism an old lie that creates new lies
>>534612181>We can't know that for certain until we do it right ;)Exactly. OP should have no problem with this. Besides, it doesn't have to be a bloody procedure. Just dissolve Israel's borders and have them assimilate and intermarry with their Arab Muslim neighbors until they're all just Arab Muslims with a little bit of forgotten jewish ancestry.
>>534608692But I believe in diversity and think all people should have the right of self-determination and are entitled to their own land and soil (including european people).
>>534602913You have constructed a false image of yourself that is smart.To anyone who actually makes money and does shit, you sound like a fucking idiot.
>>534608752Why did you ignore my question?>Your nationalism is daddy issues with a flag.Does this include Israel? Do Jews need to condemn nationalism and Zionism?
>>534612515well your job is a spook too
>>534602913I read Lacan’s lectures and I guarantee that no vulgar leftist has ever gotten anything from him. It is the most opaque and unworkable collection of ideas I’ve ever interacted with. The various graphs people derived from the lectures are unhelpful and non-illustrative. Laura Miley is the only reason leftists even know about Lagan and she is so far removed from anything he spoke about as to be completely ideologically unrelated. oP is a fag.
>>534612210Yes, racial nationalism is one possible response to mass society. But it turns real problems, housing, crime, low trust, atomisation, etc, etc, into one simple racial story. We were whole once, but then they entered, they corrupted it, remove them and order returns. It is a retreat from complexity, reducing it to a myth of purification. That is why it is fantasy. Not because the problems are fake, but because race becomes the master key to restore the symbolic order.
>>534612683Ah so can you anthropologically prove that white people need to live around minorities?
>>534612181Name (1) society that purged the Other and the perfect symbolic order was restored.
>>534612515Your job will never fulfil your lack, and you admit right here by lashing out in anger. You felt threatened and needed to reassert meaning and regain control.
>>534612683Who's they though
>>534612826whypipo
>>534612765
>>534612683Why are you not okay with killing jews? What's your hang up here exactly?
>>534613006Jews brainwashed the negroid into thinking they gave him modern liberalism somehow
The drama of the world is necessary and it is done with a purpose. Our identities are given to us for a reason and serve a purpose. Having an identity is not a burden or a wrong of some kind but a game or mask we play for a time to learn about ourselves. Attachment identity can lead to problems but it’s through that attachment that wisdom is gained. >the Jew, the migrant etcEvery group is given an ultimate enemy. For some it’s Jews for others it’s Whites for some it’s the patriarchy or Israel or Russia or the west and so forth etc. it is necessary that man, all men everywhere, be given an enemy that he believes to be an oppressor and responsible for all societal ill. This too is for a purpose. The state of society is not a chaotic mess under attack from malevolent actors but in reality a very carefully controlled breaking down of society so that it may be rebuilt better like muscle. The clinging to the various identities given to man are necessary to an extent for the sake of learning of ourselves and others but ultimately man should be himself and various identities of the world of which he may claim are mere tools or toys for man’s use for his understanding.Racial nationalism is Not inherently bad or good. Simply another tool for man’s use to know himself. Aldous Huxley called ideology a surrogate religion. All ideologies a surrogate identitty until the man becomes himself. In the meantime these identities are not to be considered evil but merely another manifestation of man’s totality. Also meme flags are always faggots without exception lol
>>534612765>Name (1) society that purged the Other and the perfect symbolic order was restored.Do Jews still exist? The answer is yes, therefore we cannot know the answer until they are completely eradicated from existence, so again we can't know unless we try, you should be perfectly okay with this ;)
>>534612826“They” means whoever your politics needs as the contaminant. For the Chud, it is migrants, jews, gays, troons, liberals, feminists, traitors, globalists, all enemies blamed for the collapse of order.The target always changes because a return to wholeness is not possible, but the structure stays the same. Something feels broken and a thief is required. That thief becomes the thing blocking the return of wholeness, to restoration. Achieving the perfect nation, the most just laws, true masculinity, true tradition, racial purity, or whatever Big Other you worship.
>>534602913Nationalism is just modern tribalism, the basic human social structure since the beginning of humanity on this planet. Take this pseudo-intellectual gobbledygook and shove it up your cunt, faggot.
>>534603426You're correct about everything but don't expect to accomplish anything here.
Stop bumping memeflag kike threads with no arguments.
>>534613187Already refuted ITT.
>>534613173Well brass tacks, the only thing materialistically that matters on this planet is race. Most of your philosophy was created by the prime race, so it would be pretty hard to claim that actually it was the prime race that was more wrong than actual subhumans when we were found floating around in boats. Do you think non whites have superior philosophy? obviously not you don't use it
>>534613255its a great thread for young anons to see why dumb shit is dumb
>>534613006Because it won't work.
>>534613395why not? Has any society killed their Epsteins before?
>>534613395>>534612912
>>534602913Tldr, your father is right - its all your fault
>>534613468See>>534605498
>>534602913This is one of the best examples of the term "midwit" I've ever seen
>>534613395>Because it won't work.We haven't eradicated all Jews therefore we cannot confirm that hypothesis to be certified truth, we can't know unless we try ;)
>>534613395
>>534613509So, all of Spain's problems were solved? It must be the perfect nation, why are you not living there?
>>534613604Why is Spain still not in its Golden Age?
>>534613614My empire currently breeds subhumans and sends them to brainwashing schools to tell them they're white, is that a great other?
>>534602913I think it's rooted more in enjoying the familiar and not having some annoying fucking nigger chimping out in retarded ebonics or pajeet shitslop offending the senses. There is no reason to suggest multiracial society has been either successful nor of any actual benefit to the citizen.
>>534603209Anon, your side believes that Christianity is real. The right wing does nothing but claim 2+2=5 even when the actual facts are staring you in the face.
>>534613393This. You don't ignore the biggest leftist clowns, no you do that to the (apparently) sensible ones. The blatant morons like OP? You shove them into the limelight.
>>534612765Germany 1933.
>>534613725>it was written long ago so it's badwhy do socialists run around with the constitution above their heads as validation for their stupidity
>>534603773>Makes sense thenNope. Because that assumes the territories are divided along cultural lines (Race isn't even real so it can't be used to divide anything) and spiritual lines.
>>534613666Nothing lasts forever. Didn't you have history class?
>>534602913Lacan is merely projecting his own mindset. I've no trouble accepting my own mistakes, but evidently Lacan is the type that does social make-up for his own fuckups and believes that everyone else does it too.
>>534606166I love people it when white people praise the 1950.Wow, anon, are you telling me that when you cleanse europe of Nazis things improve? We should do that again.
>>534613837So, ultimately, your perfect nation will degenerate and fall even when you get rid of the ultimate enemy?
>>534602913>Lacan says >that specialists confirmed >that scientists postulated >that professors agree>thatOP is a faggot
>>534613901He had the misfortune of being an intellectual in paris where they lay in the gutter crying about england killing their king
>>534607055>Every raceRaces don't exist.> thus nationalisticLol, no. >>534607061What will happen, anon? Because I can promise you right now nothing well.
>>534613807Race isnt real until you need a bone marrow transplant.
>>534612530*crickets*LOL. OP has been exposed.
>>534602913Nobody cares for your shit analysis, now go dilateThis thread is now COLONIZED
>>534610485No, it's daddy issues with flags.>>534610636>So Hitler becoming a dictator to try and make people's lives better through the justification of socialism and shared racial heritage was a wholesale lie?Yes? It was a obvious lie. It was a attempt to seize power that ended in him destroying the country. He neither meant what he said, guy wasn't even German, nor did he accomplish it.
>>534613974Yes. The big fucking difference is whether you have centuries of prosperity between the periods of decline or not.
>>534612912Which is why Spain is a perfect paradise today, right?
>>534602913A strange mix of projection and straight up lie. The weird thing is we know it’s the kikes doing this shit since being kikes they brag about it.
>>534614065Here's a real question, why are all these guys psychologists? What's the link between anti-ontology and the criminally insane?
>>534602913>You need a Big Other: nation, race, Trump, tradition, “the West.”So? Most people do need something like that to ground themselves and give their life purpose. There's nothing wrong with giving it to them. If they don't have it they become unmoored and aren't able to function in a healthy way.
>>534613807>Race isn't even realhow do medical examiners determine the race of skeletons then?
>>534613077>It's whites for someEverybody that is human. >>534613792It's bad because it's fucking nonsense. It being written a long time ago is not the issue. IT being politically motivated bullshit made by people who thought the sun would fall from the sky is. Shit written in 200AD is not applicable to the modern world. Sorry. Demons are not real.
>>534614111There is no evidence that Spain entered its Golden Age because of Jews being expelled. There are also plenty of opposite examples, where nations collapse or become worse, when jews or some other enemy group is expelled or killed. I just wanted you to demonstrate that your viewpoint is pure fantasy.
>>534614027Race isn't real then either because it isn't determined across racially lines.
>>534614173They don't. They determine ancestry. Which is 1: Mostly a scam. 2: Not a racial classification.
>>534614251If the entirety of western belief systems is a lie, then that means the ideologies that gave retards a voice in the first place are null, it's a self defeating philosophy. Words don't mean anything? so shut up
>>534602913>Your nationalism is daddy issues with a flagFuck you Uncle Tom, My nationalism is two beans, five oranges and a FUCKING PLASTIC BAG OF TURNIPS! YOU SIR ARE A FRAUD!
>>534614316>If the entirety of western belief systems is a lie, then that means the ideologies that gave retards a voice in the first place are nullYes? That's the black pill of western society.>Our foundations are bad>So there is no saving it >So it's good if it dies out>it's a self defeating philosophy.No.
>>534613561ok, but which society has removed the culprit (jews) altogether? Are you capable of giving an example from history instead of spinning in circles? I recall that Spain golden age began like that.
>>534614163Psychology has always been the realm of losers. They have no power to manifest their will in the world so they looked inward at the human mind and used it to try and attempt to seize power that way. Most of the shit shrinks do is not actually scientific. Most of their theories cannot be properly studied and results are almost never replicated. Now they will cope and say that the variation in results is the fault of the mind varying from person to person but in reality it’s that they are full of shit. All the shit they “fixed” has existed for as long as we have. People just used philosophy or archaic bullshit like trepanning to handle it before instead of trying to fuck with their brain chemistry.
>>534614414*No. Only if you don't accept death and keep trying to save something beyond saving.
>r-race is not real
>>534614451Someone cited Spain ITT. Is Spain the perfect polity now?
>>534614451>but which society has removed the culprit (jews) altogetherNazi Germany.A few years later they were a glorified ruin occupied by their enemies.
>>534614458I'll tell you what I think, all these anti-ontological "words have no meaning" socialists having careers with the criminally insane is them attempting to diagnose human social problems by believing the criminally insane are somehow persecuted by a false reality
>>534614261No lol. You lost the argument and started coping.
>>534614313cope
>>5346143131, ancestry is racial classification2, its obviously realWhat happened to trusting the science?>>534614284>nonsensical babblePathetic
>>534602913Yes id rather my big other be race nation and Tradition than gay sex and israel you pyshcoanalytic jew
>>534614534That’s true but you have to take into account that they themselves also live in a false reality.
>>534614632According to you, we should actually keep Jews around. We should simply move them around between countries, let each country expel them to a different country after x amount of time, and repeat it as an infinite cycle. Then everyone will have a Golden Age. An Age of Infinite Golden Ages for everyone.
>>534602913>Repent and accept Jewish rule and wallow in racial degradation and all will be well.Fuck off Jew.
>>534614715Leftist will say with a straight face they can't see a difference. Absolute clowns.
>>534602913Trump is a kike, idk why you Cambridge analytica faggots are still trying to tie him to /pol/. You have to completely deny reality to reach the kike filth you posted.
>>534614530Race is a made up classification of no value. It is not applicable to reality. Ancestry is mostly a scam: https://www.planet-today.com/2021/06/planet-today-man-and-his-wife-decided.html To whatever extent it is applicable it's mostly just basic data science and can be used to argue the people of New York are a race just as easily as Europeans. Ethnicity meanwhile is largely memetic. It exists insofar that people think it exists. Which is why it's highly fluent and largely pointless. Look at places like Spain and concepts like Spanish identity to see how obviously fraudulent they are. >>534614741See above. Science discredited race.
>>534602913>Migrants stole the jobs. Jews control the banks. Feminists corrupted the women. Liberals ruined the culture.Some of these are simple facts though. A zero sum job market, especially one based on limited resources means immigrants do in fact take jobs and opportunities from native born people.
>>534614814You tried to imply national performance doesn't matter. I refuted this blatantly retarded suggestion with elementary logical.As a response you went on to deflect using irrevelant in and incorrect fantasies.
>>534614868How come different races have different skeletons? How come different races experience heart attacks differently? Race is real kiketard.
>>534614926That's the system functioning as intended, it's not because of imagined enemies making it impure and ruining it.
Why is this anti-White kike thread being bumped? Sagep.s. psychoanalysis is just a branch of Jewish schizosupremacy where Jews create contrived nonsense from the ether and use it to validate their hostility towards gentiles. Lacan, kosher diet laws, 613 Mizvot and circumcision all come from the same narcopathic (anti) intellectual position
>>534614966You kikes had nothing to do with the hartcellar act and h1bs?
>>534614868>just ignores bone marrow and anthropologyNah, that shit doesnt fly here fag.
>>534614966You're deflecting. Immigrants do take jobs from native people and you're not denying that.
>>534614966Riiiight
>>534614868It's one thing to say racism bad, it's another thing to deny observable reality. You don't have to go full retard.
>>534611920>>let me, a failed intellectual, tell you about yourself without revealing anything about my own philosophyThe same strategy is used by (((atheists))).
>>534615045H1Bs is a natural outcome of the capitalist system which has infinite need for growth. Growth was threatened by having only a national pool of workers, so a pathway for international workers was opened. >>534615100The system is designed for you to compete with other labourers for a job. That's a feature, not a bug.
>>534615045I really wouldn't bother arguing with the Jew, he's not arguing with you in good faith.If you look at something like psychopathy and the research on psychopathy and how psychopaths work, if you look at the Jews you can actually see it. In pretty much all areas of their culture. Because psychopaths have no concept of cause and effect. They basically go "I'm going to do this because this is what I want to do, consequences be damned" and then when consequences do happen, they get shocked and go "Oh it's not my fault, you're abusing me". There isn't just no guilt, they literally lack that common sense understanding between cause and effect. Jews throughout history have these mask off moments where they go "okay we're in a position of power and we're going to do whatever we want lol" and then commit something insane, like carpet bombing hospitals then blaming Hamas. Then they get backlash and genuinely, GENUINELY believe they are being unfairly persecuted. Because they don't connect cause (their behaviour) with effect (people's attitudes) at all.The link between Jews and psychopathy is doubly strong when you look at times Jews are actually forced to live only amongst other Jews, and not next to some other people - they immediately start exploiting each other. Scamming each other. Murdering each other. Just generally bringing horrible to each other, because the psychopathic traits have no "other" to be directed against anymoreYou can't convince these people with facts or reasoning, they will confidently ignore all of them and continue to push the narrative most beneficial to the Jewish racecult. Understand that they are neurologically defective on a fundamental level, and it all clicks.
>>534615222>The system is designed for you to compete with other labourers for a job. That's a feature, not a bug.That's irrelevant to my point that immigrants take jobs from natives, which you still are not denying.
>>534614769At least with the French you can say they're mad but not insane, at least this guy understood what he was talking about far more than his modern nigger worshippers. That's also the problem with socialist philosophy is it's so easy to misinterpret
>>534614834>they can't see a differenceHere is a image of Donald Trump: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_TrumpHere is a image of the current Dutch prime minister: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_JettenAccording to you, there is zero difference between these two people.
>>534615231Why did someone have to put that cringe anime face up top
>>534614960>How come different races have different skeletons?You and your dad have a different skeleton.>How come different races have different skeletons?See above. >>534615124> it's another thing to deny observable reality.People used to believe whale dicks were sea monsters.You should learn to trust the facts, not your eyes.
>>534615291No, it's relevant to your point. The difference is that you take issue with one worker being "native" and the other not. But you have no issue with the logic of the system, which is what is making you lose jobs in the first place.
>>534614960>heart attacks not korrelating to health/wealth and social circumstancesGenetical differences are minimal and more or less irrelevant. You will find similar differences in any ethnic itself. Environmental, social and wealth are much stronger influences
>>534615121> first degree corporate abandonmentFirst degree corporate abandonment should honestly be punishable by immediate death. Oh, wait... The store is anyway dead. Never mind, case closed. JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED!!!
>>534615409What if sub races aren't capable of creating or maintaining any high level philosophy
>>534613725>The right wing does nothing but claim 2+2=5 even when the actual facts are staring you in the face.The left has spent the last few years arguing that 2+2 doesn’t always equal 4 because they worship subversion. You’re just lying.
>>534615217Op is a funny guy.He sits making the most basic psychology observations imaginable and pretending it’s groundbreaking. Acting like he’s bringing great knowledge but hidden behind a veil of menaignless verbosity. All these posts and all he said was people subconsciously project their internal states on their external experiences. Like no shit dude that’s just psychology 101. Literally just reiterating entry level psychology lol. Midwit pseud and likely a Jew as he never responded to anything that would hold Jews to the same standards he’s demanding of others. No dude your basic entry level psychology is not impressive despite you hiding it behind a wall of verbosity.
>>534615379>You should learn to trust the facts, not your eyes.Thanks for the advice. You should learn what Lewontin's fallacy is.
>>534614530it's amazing how true it is, dialectical nihilism is the only thing they have leftbut I like it because the consequences of this mode of acting of OP and other bioleninists is that the only thing left eventually will be pure will to power by groups that have given up dialectics altogether, they don't realize they are consuming a finite resource which is the only thing preventing violence as the only arbiter
>>534615379Shalom rabbi.
>>534614959>You tried to imply national performance doesn't matter.Never said anything of the sort. I asked you to show me where expelling or killing Jews created your perfect imagined society and you couldn't do it. Which is fine. Because there is no such thing.
>>534615319>According to you, there is zero difference between these two peopleRetarded and dishonest. According to me theres very little (one is dutch, other german) RACIAL difference betwen the two. Wich is true. Race being a thing doesn't mean other factors like age don't exist - I never implyied this. As usual leftist are reduced to the trying to put words in their opponents mouth - and we both know you wouldn't have to resort to this if truth were on your side.
>>534615393This is a strawman. I never said I take issue with anything. You implied people who think immigrants are taking their job are defective and I explained that they're actually correct that immigrants take jobs from natives. You agreed with me as well, meaning your entire hypothesis in OP is bullshit. It's just unscientific garbage meant to make you feel superior.
>>534615605>Acting like he’s bringing great knowledge but hidden behind a veil of menaignless verbosity. kid feels special that he discovered "le secret truth" at barnes and noble, tries to adopt the voice and shoehorn the empty jargon into his daily life because he imagines it sounds authoritative. Many such cases, sad.
>>534603093Is it possible to have an additional pussy for a man while keeping his own dick and his asshole intact? We can call it the pussy-dick-ass.
>>534615502this is the book you should read asap (yeah the cover looks like shit)
>>534615647I'm not a nihilist and neither was Lacan. Race, how Chuds define it, is not real. Resorting to absolute reductionism like bone marrow transplants doesn't prove the existence of your racial categories.
>>534615689So the US pretending to be a house on the hill religious experiment where we don't kill people based on a different religion is a spook
>>534615689>I asked you to show me where expelling or killing Jews created your perfect imagined society and you couldn't do itI did right here >>534613604Why lie so blatantly? You only discredit yourself further.
>>534615804Do you deny anthropology?
>>534615804>I'm not a nihilistI said dialectical nihilism, which is a dialectical weapon, the a priori negation of the conceptual building blocks of your adversary while you hold onto yours. I get it, it's a powerful weapon and it works as long as people fall for it by engaging with you in good heart. At some point though there's not going to be any engagement but only bullets flying and you'll have nobody else to blame but yourselves.
>>534615689>>534615821Oh and the reverse - the presence of these races turning everything to shit - is easly proven as well.
>>534615925That's called Socratic dialogue, or as we call it today, rational debate. Would you shoot Socrates and Aristotle, then?
>>534616012So a psychopathic murderer in an asylum should be let out to kill people because society just "made up" that his way of life is wrong
>>534615867so you want races as a term to categorize people how on how much there is a certain probability how they look?Why? What is the practical usecase?Iam serious most people here who are digging all that race and darwinism stuff would be outperformed and therefore sorted out of society/life by any measurement they try to establish
>>534616012>That's called Socratic dialogue, or as we call it today, rational debatenope, a Socratic dialogue requires a foundational basis of concepts that are taken for granted by both sides, it's a gentlemen's agreement, you simply move ahead and deny your opposition's concepts a priori rendering discussion about intelligibles impossible by denying they are intelligibles
>>534616159They don't actually understand their own belief system they're just fed a script. If you make them read their whole script they stop replying
>>534616159The Athenians didn't think so and they killed Socrates.
>>534615724>According to me theres very littleDefine very little.>Racial differenceEither you are part of a race or you aren't there are no degrees accoring to race pseudo science.>Race being a thing doesn't mean other factors like age don't exist - I never implyied this. It sounds to me that you are just talking out of your ass. Having created a system where you can conveniently ignore obvious differences while using others. All in a attempt to create a in group where none exists as a means to gain access to people that are not like you and do not want you around.
>>534616229depends, lower tier bioleninists are cheap LLMs, higher tier ones know what they are doing, it's a tactic that exploits the good faith of the interlocutor
>>534616281Oh subhumans? Again they don't answer why they use white man's philosophy to destroy white man's philosophy while claiming to be equal to whites
>>534616012Do you deny anthropology?>most people here who are digging all that race and darwinism stuff would be outperformed and therefore sorted out of society/life by any measurement they try to establishProof? Leftist tend to be less fit as excersize is something the right values while the left ignores or is actievly aganist. Example: fat acceptance movement.
>>534616159>requires a foundational basis of concepts that are taken for granted by both sidesBut stopping you from talking is a attack on free speech? The same free speech you admit you cannot partake in due to you disagreeging with fundamental concepts any civilized person believes in today?
>>534616255irrelevant, point is every dialogue done in your style would've ended up in few lines where the two sides end up yelling "define define" at each other
>>534615732You are making a trivial point and smuggling in a larger one.Yes, in a single vacancy, an immigrant can get a job a native might otherwise have got. That is called labour competition, and it is part of the system. But “migrants stole the jobs” is not the same claim. That turns competition into theft and makes the foreign worker the special culprit. When in reality that worker has no power over the system and is a speck of dust in a giant machine beyond anyone's control.
