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How did this happen? In the 80s, Japan seemed ultra-advanced, dominating in tons of key sectors, and everyone thought they were going to crush everything... and since then? The country is dying demographically, its economy has been stagnating for decades. Culturally, they only produce uninteresting crap now and are increasingly outcompeted by Korea and China. It's honestly sad to see such a decline
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plaza accords
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>>534608042
Japan is much more insular and hostile to talented foreigners moving there, even though if they opened their borders they could advance beyond their dreams. We would fix their birthrates also.
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GDP worship has completely destroyed every nation that's fallen for "line go up" ideology.
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>>534608251
It's actually really easy to move there. It's just not interesting.
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>>534608355
Youre a retard. Also every "french" person ive met here has been an Arab. Faggot.
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>>534608042
Housing crisis basically crippled thwir economy for 15 yearsin the late 80' s and 90's. Actually the USA is having similar patterns now.
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>>534608341
>>534608042
US Median Wealth (2026 est.): ~$115,000
Japan Median Wealth (2026 est.): ~$105,000
GDP is a retarded metric.
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>>534608042
>>534608133
>plaza accords
The land value of the Imperial Palace in Tokyo even before than was worth as much as the entire state of California with other flashing red lights that makes our economy here back in 2007 look like a goddamn candle to their fucking tsar bomba of a economy then.

But burger until proven Korean I guess
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>>534608471
Great, so even Arabs can live in Japan if they want. It's not that hard. But the salaries are low and you're expected to work a lot. It's just not interesting if you're from a developed country. And as time goes on, it won't be attractive even for Vietnamese or Malaysian people.
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>>534608042
The only reason you need a high income in the United States is so you can afford to not live around niggers and beaners.
We don't have that problem here, since all the niggers and beaners live behind the walls of the US bases. Hence we can get by with less and still enjoy a higher quality of life than your average burger.
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>>534608547
these were direct consequences of plaza accords.
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>>534608042
Japan is doing way better than france:

High end denim, uniqlo, muji, cars, watches. Also clean, safe stable country.

You have luxury goods made by chinese, niggers, arabs, riots and crack cocaine

The average jap has a far superior life compared to a french.

What car and luxury watch do you own op?
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>>534608042
and yet life here is shit
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>>534608042
>hurr durf nips are irrelevant
>203 threads everyday about japan and they live rent freen in his head

Kek
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>>534608708
And since they have much more money than you they can come to your country and buy as much as they want while Japanese can no longer travel abroad.
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>>534610071
Oh no! Please, send in le niggers!
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Japan is proof that GDP growth is a meaningless metric
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I'd rather work as a JAV painslut in Tokyo than be a civil engineer in Pasadena, CA.
With the former at least I know I only get mouthraped while on the job, and not also while commuting home, doing my tax report, visiting the GP, electing government officials, going on a walk, etc.
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>>534608042
Because no growth is infinite and conditions change constatnly.
EVERY empire falls. Every "smart" economy eventually breaks.
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>>534608042
We've delivered 5 new equipment, 4 new materials to Intel 14A production. Americans can't do anything without Japan. lol
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>>534611075
14A node success is now depending on Canon IAP.
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>>534608042
They got assblasted for getting kicked out of semiconductors.
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>>534608042
>actual answer btw
Poor economic decisions relying too much on using debt to buy real estate.
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>>534611434
You remember Samgook boastfully showed LK99 chip sample to Biden? What happened to that?
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>>534611075
>Americans can't do anything without Japan. lol
That's an overstatement considering the only relevant Japanese equipment companies(TEL, Advantest, DISCO) and they've only generated $8.86 billion USD profit last year.

>>534611280
Nobody uses nanoimprint technology it's just one of many gimmick technology Japan has invented that are going nowhere
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_U.S.%E2%80%93Japan_Semiconductor_Agreement

Korea and Taiwan say thank you btw
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>>534611943
No need to be that insecure just because your Samsung foundry ended up a disaster-level failure, tried every advanced node, and mogged by TSMC in all of them. It's actually unreal how can one foundry be this much of an embarrassment.
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>>534611664
Samsung 2nm node hits over 60% yield and it is planning to introduce it to produce Exynos 2600 that's going to be implemented in Galaxy S26
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>>534612070
You outed yourself as a tech-wannabe know-it-all in the first post. You don’t need to do it again in the second.
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>>534608042
GDP per capita only correlates with standard of living when you include shitholes. When you limit it to rich countries, it doesn't correlate at all.
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>>534611664
>l-look this, Mr. Biden! t-this advanced Samsung 3nm chip! c-can you order plz?
>ended up with zero orders

Ngl I'm gonna kill myself if I were a Samshit engineer. lol
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>>534612035
>No need to be that insecure just because your Samsung foundry ended up a disaster-level failure
How is it a disaster when it's recording profit margins that are unprecedented? Samsung alone recorded $40 billion this alone which is higher than Toyota's yearly profit $24.22 billion.
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>>534608042
a combination of the US fucking the nip economy with the plaza accords and the housing/asset bubble which then made all the chink speculators speculate in other asian countries like singapore and the resulting economic collapse made it so no one had kids which caused further economic damage and lack of growth while the JPY never got stronger. also, while the nip economy is shit, GDP is intentionally shitty at measuring shit like this. Like this graph would look better if you accounted for purchasing power of citizens
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>>534612128
>You outed yourself as a tech-wannabe know-it-all in the first post. You don’t need to do it again in the second.
>t. I can't do math
No wonder Japs are dropping out of the tech competiton.
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>>534612264
*this quarter
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>>534608042
Total submission to hierarchy
Beurocratic strangle of new ideas
slow adoption of new methods and ideas
Failure to capitalize on the few new idea that they developed
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>>534612264
Everyone knows Samsung is behind TSMC, so they are dumping DRAM as a last resort, which will be replaced by China anyway, because ching chogn steal-and-copy ability always outperforms you gooks. lol
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Literally the whole story, in great detail, of the engineered sabotage of the Japanese economy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTKHskg5Tg
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>>534612321
Actually Plaza Accord inflated Japan's GDP and purchasing power thus contributing to its rise in financial market. It's their own mismanagement that led to its downfall.
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>>534608042
>How did Japan become so irrelevant?
They trusted Americans, and Americans backstabbed them.
It's wild that most Americans don't know how they cucked Japan and propped up China in the process.
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>>534612349
You said tech?
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>>534612533
This LK-99 thing concreted the general image of gooks for rigging and lying. Good thing this incident put them in their place to realize (I mean, open their slant eyes) they are nothing but a backward country with 0 Nobel Prizes. kek
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>>534608042
They’re worthless today, it’s the Chinese era. Japan is just a sick man that will kick the bucket soon
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>>534608042

Remember...GDP grows when someone pushing more money to circulation by increasing debts. USA GDP growth is mostly fake...hollow....it goes down rapidly if their debts started to paying back.
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>>534612464
>Everyone knows Samsung is behind TSMC, so they are dumping DRAM as a last resort
>which will be replaced by China anyway
So you are projecting as China in order to downplay us? Guess who doesn't want China becoming a semiconductor powerhouse? Yeah, Uncle Sam.
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>>534612505
the plaza accords made it so the nips couldn't sell cheap shit on the US market due to the ass jpy
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Korean memory companies Q1 operating profit

Samsung Electronics: Operating profit of KRW 57.2 trillion (~$39.4 billion USD).

SK Hynix: Operating profit of KRW 37.6 trillion (~$25.9 billion USD).

Total for the two companies: Approximately KRW 94.8 trillion (~$65.3 billion USD).

According to the Japs this is what a failing economy looks like.
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>>534612673
>>534612840
What you need to do is open your slant eyes and see the reality
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>>534608042
>How did this happen?

Just like Korea and China, their economic boom was caused by the IP theft. They stole patents from western inventors, unis, companies and researchers, created china-tier consumer products of them and sold them back to western consumers. Once they catched up, they immediately joined WIPO and WTO to "shield" their own innovations so nobody could steal them.

Unlucky for them, their innovations were shit and now they couldn't steal anymore. Korea did the same but they have Samsung that keeps their economy afloat. It's interesting to see if china will do the same, probably not.
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>>534608042
In 1990, the Plaza Accord forced the yen to appreciate, which is why the figures in dollar terms were so high.
While it’s true that Japan’s economy was booming at the time, that very appreciation of the yen marked the beginning of Japan’s long-term recession.
In other words, you can’t gauge the true state of the economy based on the concept of GDP alone.

Anyone who decides the winner just by comparing GDP figures is a complete idiot who fails to see the bigger picture.
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>>534612867
SK Hynix operating profit >>> Combined operating profit of Japan’s top 20 companies by market cap (Toyota, Sony, Mitsubishi, Hitachi, SoftBank, Nintendo, Uniqlo, Keyence, NTT, Tokyo Electron, etc.)

Samsung Q1 2026 operating profit: KRW 57.2 trillion (~$39.4 billion USD).

Japan’s #1 by market cap – Toyota: FY2025 full-year operating profit of KRW 40 trillion (~$27.6 billion USD).
Taiwan’s #1 by market cap – TSMC: FY2025 full-year operating profit of KRW 80 trillion (~$55.2 billion USD).
China’s #1 by market cap – Tencent: FY2025 full-year operating profit of KRW 61 trillion (~$42.1 billion USD).

Samsung’s projected full-year 2026 operating profit: KRW 200–300 trillion (~$138–207 billion USD).

Even if you combine Toyota + TSMC + Tencent, their total operating profit still falls far short of Samsung’s projected figure and SK Hynix alone is already competitive with or exceeds many of these individual giants.
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>>534608042
b-but current Japanese life is much better than 1990.
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>>534608042
They never adapted to the internet like they should have.
They still use a fucking fax machine and their websites look bad.
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>>534613072

Because most earned money goes at USA to billionares pockets not for wagies.
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>>534612464
You japs are largely irrelevant in cutting edge semiconductors and even the chinks are mogging you in mature nodes.
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>>534611664
Productivity take forever to get the machinery right for mass production. Give it a few more years so they'll start rolling out bleeding edge tech.
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Comparing in dollar terms obscures the truth.

This is GDP in yen, and this chart match with the feeling of life for Japanese people.
Life was difficult when Japan was the world's second-largest economy, but it's comfortable now.
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>>534613315
>they'll start rolling out bleeding edge tech
More like blowing up
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>>534608588
>And as time goes on, it won't be attractive even for Vietnamese or Malaysian people.
It's mostly Indonesians, Nepalis and Indians working in Japan. Not really Malaysians.
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>>534613370
Nice cope
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>>534613311
China is the biggest buyer of Japanese equipment, you retard.
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Current gasoline price is same with the last year's.
Good job, Sanae chan!
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>>534608042
China and Korea were like literally 40x pooroer than now 36 years ago while Japan wasn't much different from now
They were slowly becoming like Japan and direct competitors

Asia itself just keeps getting richer, the advantage that only Japan had in Asia is gone
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>>534608042
that's smart of them.
Less money=less racial replacement.
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>>534613534
I'll vote for her party again.
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>>534613456
Japanese stock is now like rocket.
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Well, I understand you can shit on Japan, but if you look at it from a different perspective, It means Japan was a really a good model for the rest of Asia and it changed the world
China and Korea are proving it
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>>534608042
Japan is actually doing great. Have you been there? It's amazing.

>b-b-but muh GDPeeenis
You are a faggot
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>>534608042
Japan is not sovereign nation, they are USA's vassal, thats why they own 1.2 trillion of US debt, this transaction literally transfers purchasing power from Japan to USA
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>>534613700
from Abe's cabinet
- Inflation 1.5times
- stock average 6.3 times
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>>534608042
US GDP is completely fake and counts government spending which is just double dipping on the money actually generated which is siphoned off in taxes

the US has 1000s of billionaire kikes having the fed print them money
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>>534613858
Thanks Abe!

He saved Japan.
We all Japanese except mad leftists love him.
R.I.P.
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>>534608042
You keep asking stupid questions when you know the answer is the jews and the foids they unleashed on the world.
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demographics is destiny
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>>534613522
My point still stands. Neither you japs nor the chinese manufacture at advanced nodes. Your low end equipment and masks are all they are allowed by us to buy and they are rapidly substituting imports with their own.
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>>534608042
I watched a documentary that explained this. But then I forgot all about it.
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>>534608042
The average japanese lives way better than the average american. GDP means fuck all.
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>>534614438
I'm in the industry. I can easily tell you are a tech-wannabe know-it-all, who knows nothing. Better not speak if you don't know what you are talking about.
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>>534614574
Non.
>>534613822
>Have you been there? It's amazing.
I have. It's great if you're a tourist. Not that much if you actually live there.
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>>534608708
Im going to Japan and I will turn your woman brown and create Philippines 2
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>>534615029
You're brown.
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>>534614614
I'm in the industry. No amount of chest thumping and passive-aggressive tantrums will change the fact that you are still ultimately subservient to and dependent on american technology.
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>>534615461
If you want to know things about semi, I can tell you the High NA EUV ecosystem relies more on Japanese suppliers than the last one. Keep an eye on what is happening in Albany and Leuven.
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>>534608042
If you remove a few billionaires then they're equal. it's not your income that went up.
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>>534608042
>How did this happen?
企業上部構造衰退
It's sad..
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>>534608042
Usa ruin them
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>>534609097
no, they weren't, russian faggot. get in the trench

>>534617012
get in the trench, russian faggot
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Jews created an artificial investment bubble and then gave it a tiny little prick to watch it slowly deflate. All large capital is in Jewish hand, and they all move in perfect coordination to enforce the political changes they want to see. Every geopolitical trend is down to one factor, one common denominator: Jewish elits across the world working hand in hand to manipulate countries who refuse to see the facts.
It's not even a conspiracy. Plenty of Jews have been open about their intentions, and the others are terrible about covering it up. People just can't comprehend the absolute evil that drives the Jewish heart.
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>>534608042
1)Corruption, lack of transparency and hubris+delusions making them unable to take advantage of being a pozzed country just like us.
Puritanical mentality - they really think they're the "moral" people while being the #1 enabler of the dollar ponzi scheme. We know were corrupt so we try to take advantage of it at least. - so in a way, they're actually protecting East Asia by being retarded and not much useful for Amerikun in real world, only helps with finance. But not anymore after Abe became PM. Japan was secretly Russian ally for like thee decades.
2)They don't cooperate with their neighbors like Europe cause they're just xenophobic.
>Muh Europe is crumbling down
This is because they work 2 hours a day and nobody applies for military but that is changing fast after Ukraine war. They can't even work with white people. So many white people want to go live their on working visa.
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>>534618037
Tokyo turns into Nigerian colony ~20 years.

Roughly speaking, the JPY has done about the same as the KRW vs. the USD over the past 10 years. Both countries have the same strategy, with domestic markets in mind, and as birthrates stagnate people increasingly want to spend all day sitting around inside for cheap in sweatpants.
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>>534608042
it happened by everything in US being triple the cost of japan, more money moves around = more gpd



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