The slippery slope is not a fallacy, give an inch take a mileDon't expect this post to get much reaction but people should recognize this
>But you have to acknowledge the slippery slope as a logical fallacy, otherwise you'll refuse to acknowledge any logical fallacies and then you'll refuse to acknowledge the concept of logic and then you'll be unable to think at allDo you accept this argument?Think about it carefully and you might be able to spot the irony.
>>534610030>The slippery slope is not a fallacyAgreed. As a Libertarian this has been my view for years. Well, maybe my entire life, even.
>>534610030>gives an inch to faggots and jews>is surprised they take more than bargained forMy reaction is that you're a dumb cattle that doesn't know how to bargain.You gave them the inch without asking for anything in return and you are giving the mile just the same.
>>534610145The slippery slope is a valid fallacy and it's the best kind because there are real-life cases where the slippery slope can be observed.The counter-argument to the slippery slope fallacy is agreeing on limits because logical debate should only be applied as a means to reach a common ground and common good, not to win the argument or to find ways to circumvent an agreement by having other hidden motives and motifs.
>>534610145Nah I don't and I didn't even have to think about it that hard, nowhere did I say it was a 100% conclusive fact, it's just not a fallacy in the same way other arguments are
Give them an inch, they give you six inches. It's a size game
>>534610206>You Yeah I did this and I have the power to stop it whenever I want but decide not to Fuck yourself you fucking nigger, this shit isnt my fault
>>534610193This type of fallacy is in the gray zone and it works both ways.Libertarians are not right-wing or extremists, they shifted the Overton Window left to such degree that Libertarian concepts are seen as extreme far-right and liberals are seen as centrists. Your meme sucks.
>>534610030Agreed. Most of these informal fallacies aren't always fallacies.
>>534610503Yeah and in the same breath I'm sure you'll screech incel bullshit about how the fall of the west was giving women the right to vote, recognizing that one thing leads to another should be apparent to everyone>Just let the tr00ns in the bathroom, what's the worst that could happen?
>>534610030>>534610145>>534610193>>534610503>>534610637Slippery slope is still a fallacy, but as per the fallacy fallacy, just because something is fallacious does not make it untrue
>>534610550Kek
>>534610617Yes to all statements you made and I can do mental gymnastics to prove that if you want.
>>534610754Does your solution involve throwing my life away without any evidence of effective long term benefits from direct action
>>534610030You're right. Allowing hate under the guise of "free speech" has opened the flood gates to racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. It's clear that "free speech" logically leads to the oppression of marginalized groups and can't be upheld as a principle in a truly just society.
>>534610709I don't understand why you're trying to hold my discourse by projection. I never said you're my legate to represent and you started speaking on my behalf. Is this the way you have a decent discussion centered around logic?
>>534610878>racism, sexism, homophobia,Explain why these things are bad
>>534610738>just because something is fallacious does not make it untrueBingo. You're not genetically Anglo, right?
>>534610030Its the slippery slope fallacy fallacy
>>534610738All I can say is everything republicans predicted 2 decades ago has come to fruition and is much worse than even they predicted Functioning society needs consistency=traditionProgressive values inherently disrupt that by their nature
>>534610878YUP CHANGE IS BAD, DO WHAT WORKS
>>534610864Solution? It would be more of a demonstration of a theory you formulated by making certain statements.1. It's your fault2. You can stop this at any time3. You chose not to4. It's not your fault5. I am black6. I fuck myself
>>534610913On a basket weaving forum for Mongolian throat singers? Generally yeah, I paint in broad strokes to finish the fence faster
>>534610878It's also right that promoting lgbt to kids turns them into faggots. And eventually you get to the point of dragtime story hour.
>>534611016At least you recognize my long dick >T. Nigger
>>534610738>as per the fallacy fallacy, just because something is fallacious does not make it untrueLogically speaking, we can't know whether or not the conclusion is true based on a fallacious argument. There are unsound arguments that have conclusions which are true. You commit a fallacy fallacy when you hastily generalize from a fallacious argument that the conclusion is false without considering other potential valid arguments.
The problematic feature here are the words "will" and "should (not)".It's more of a heuristic that tends to be true but you can't base a conclusion without including other external factors. In America, its not the thing that *causes* the slippery slope, degeneracy for example, but rather the environment it happens in. But if the environment is unchecked, then the thing will in hindsight obviously be viewed as the 'gateway' that set it off when it did not have to develop in such a way. In a more restrained, healthy environment, degeneracy would be an exception, not a trend setter, unique and contained. But if every other factor is driving the environment in the same direction, you can expect the worst outcomes.Perversion and vice are good examples. If you keep monetizing and commercially promoting anything for gain, or if you simply rely on human nature, they will get worse.You can look at the early 20th century ideas of prohibition and say that *should* have stopped bar culture, when it was understood that people routinely consuming alcohol were degenerates, not to be celebrated. Instead, later it was glamorized until men thought it was glamorous to try and repeat the last year of high school into their 40s, wasting their prime and devolving into "bar culture" when it used to be looked upon as a vile vice for losers.You also see this with the 20th century invention of "dating" where instead of a suitor presenting himself to a young womans father for evaluation at her home, the daughter was instead given responsibility for auditioning men unsupervised, one after the other. Had other factors been in place, this could've been a bizarre secular offshoot and remained limited. But then feminism comes along and demands the formation of families should rest upon the judgment of a literal young girl. After decades of white knighting, you see the results.
>>534611070Then you're discussing in bad faith and you should be discarded.There was a time here when one would out himself as a disingenuous faggot then ban would ensue.Here's another fallacy, you fucking faggot.
>>534611259Still don't see how that disproves the fact that one thing leads to another, it's still "if... Then" the only thing you can conclude is that the conclusion isn't necessarily true, not that it won't have a knock on effect, we're all riding the slippery slope and I feel like everyone is trying to say it's flat ground regardless, any slippery slope argument can be backed up with evidence
>>534611296Saved Off into the weeds, don't really care when your primary defense is calling people goys and then kikes
>>534610948 I am a full on bongaloid lmao
>>534610929*crickets*
>>534611888I'll check on that
>>534610030we did it reddit
>>534610030Correct.Saying it is a logical fallacy is to let degeneracy take root and grow into a mighty jungle of child rape and perversion.
>>534610030There is nothing technically wrong with an argument of "If X then Y then Z" as long as causation is explained.
>>534612174exactly....or if you can clearly demonstrate that your particular case actually has progressed as you say it has. the fallacy comes if you try to reason from X case being a true slippery slope so Y case must necessarily also be a true case and provide no evidence. its mostly a fallacy made by speakers as a rhetorical device and combined with the old tactic of stating a couple true, or reasonably true, examples in a row to build momentum and agreement, and then adding a third and much less defensible case at the end.
>>534611500I didn't mean to suggest I was disproving anything. Just that context matters, and there are implications in "slippery slope" that rely on general principles and assumption rather than evidence, because by definition its a prediction, not an observed fact. It relies on a very narrow focus and assumption of faith in that principle that may not actually be true. But in regards to the predictability of human nature which is universal, it can generally be said to be true. Moreover, it reflects general entropy. The one thing might not lead to the downward slope. But if other, independent and unconsidered events are also taking place, then it will be part of the entropy overall, even if not itself causal, and causality still matters.Its why all societies have some sense of morality out of fear of their own impulses, even when the moral seems absurd. You shouldn't have to tell people to refrain from vice, yet we know we must because thats the nature of humans.I guess what I mean is that is more hindsight than predictive. In and of itself, it doesn't really tell you anything new that one could not have speculated for any particular event. But because it relies on that narrow focus and disregards context, it can't reliably be viewed as a true statement of fact, just because the "fact" hasn't happened yet. To do that, you would have to know for a fact what will happen next, so then you have to define those terms.
>>534612433Look at the normalization of same sex physical intimacy. Using "slippery slope" one can imagine where it might lead, and you can follow that all the way to societal collapse. But is that really the beginning, or the middle? It had to spawn from something else, so you have to have clarity on what that is. You could say its anything from foreign influence to rejection of religious monarchy.By the same token, same sex physicality is rampant in restrictive cultures like Islam, where it has never been normalized yet very consistently present. Many of their strongholds have a theocracy. Yet they are only growing. So its that idea of normalization that seems to be causal, not the activity itself.
>>534612467g2g have a good day
>>534612416Yeah, I don't know why so many philosophy majors make such a basic mistake. Perhaps it's because philosophy does not deal in empirical questions.
>>534612174This. An unwarranted accusation that an argument is fallacious is made by retarded redditors and then anons here respond by rejecting all accusations of fallacy, even when those accusations are valid. It's really stupid.
>>534612416Meanwhile ad hominem is always fucking retarded and validly listed as a logical fallacy, that's all I'm fucking saying Shit like straw manning is never fucking true but the slippery slope argument at this point has completely valid real world examples, not comparable to other fallacies, the slippery slope is REAL
>>534610503Our modern legal system is exactly >To win the argument or to find ways to circumvent an agreement by having other hidden motives and motifs.This was a problem 2000 years ago too and why Jesus went up against the Pharisees.
>>534612433Would you dismiss an argument out of hand based upon ad hominem as you would slippery slope arguments or do they deserve a place in debate That's literally the only thing I'm calling into question
>>534612634Most people can't identify what an actual ad hominem fallacy even is.>https://laurencetennant.com/bonds/adhominem.html
>>534610030Gay rights is a prime example. People said, if we legalise sexual deviants, one day they'll want to get married. Then once they can get married they'll want to adopt kids etc.
>>534610738>>534610030If you understand human nature, and the subject relates to human culture and socialization, then the "slippery slope" is not only NOT a fallacy, it's an inevitability.
>>534610030kek
>>534612785Thanks for completely missing the point, the bump is appreciated
>>534612934>third world war is about to break out>plagues happened>schools teaching kids how to fucking make hormone drugs for themselves for sex change>terrorist won
>>534613076Hey this guy gets it
>>534613213What a fucking mockery
>>534613213meanwhile I sacrificed my lunch breaks and prep periods to help an absolute trainwreck of a kid to try his damnest to achieve a C-
>>534612939>Assuming my posts aren't saged.I wasn't sure about it before, but now I'm certain that you're a retard and you're just assmad that people are able to efficiently dismiss whatever random assertions you make by labeling them as fallacious.
>>534610030Logic is just a tool for rhetoric newfag. When you’re out of logic you just say whatever to get support.
https://youtu.be/o9p8h4E6aJI
>>534613578Damnit I thought I was first
>>534613401>>534613422You watch your fucking mouth, that's a future doctor lawyer
>>534613462Why the fuck would you assume I don't know what ad hominem is? I can call you a retarded monkey fucking bitch faggot all day as long as I include a logical argument next to it, has nothing to do with what this thread is about you knuckle dragging butt fucker, >DUHHHH I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT AD HOMINEM AND THATS IMMEDIATELY WHAT ILL RESORT TO couldn't possibly be more ironic You piss me off as much as democrats
>>534614164>Why the fuck would you assume I don't know what ad hominem is?Because this entire thread is the result of you not understanding what a fallacy is.>I can call you a retarded monkey fucking bitch faggot all day as long as I include a logical argument next to itThe article that I linked makes that exact point.>has nothing to do with what this thread is about you knuckle dragging butt fucker,Really? People misusing fallacies has nothing to do with redditors misusing the slippery slope fallacy? And you denying that the slippery slope fallacy is even a fallacy based on that misuse of the fallacy?>couldn't possibly be more ironic You piss me off as much as democratsMaybe if you were less sensitive, you'd have a clearer mind to make better, non-fallacious arguments.
>>534610030so what's the consensus? Is lgbtq+ mental illness or genetics?either way lgbtq freaks are fucking disgusting and should be eradicated.
>>534610030>logical fallaciesIf you don't recognize this as the work of kikes you are retarded
>>534614797Yeah, fuck that (((Aristotle))) kike.
>>534610030Everything is a slippery slope you dumb uneducated retard, that's why it's a fallacy. Don't let the fast food oil clog your brain cells. Life evolves, everything changes, thus everything can be seen as a slippery slope. If you tag everything as a slippery slope, everyone will become as retarded as you and your inbred cleetus family and you will never see progress again.
>>534610030this part is always neglected when they bring up the slippery slope>The strength of such an argument depends on whether the small step really is likely to lead to the effect. This is quantified in terms of what is known as the warrant (in this case, a demonstration of the process that leads to the significant effect).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
>>534614508They usually refer to it as a social contagion which is why the argument is valid
>>534610030>what are gay rightsprobably one of the three pillars of why society is ending, together with women's rights and "wir schaffen das!"
>>534614943If everything evolves, explain Brazil.
>>534614943humans are objectively DE-volving thanks to technology replacing the actual brain
>>534615062kek
>>534612785>you wouldn't understand x, niggerVs>niggers never could understand xPedantic articleAny reputational damage can damage the speakers ability to convey their argument so attacks on character that aren't pure ad hominem can still accomplish the same thing.
Just look at negros, in America it went from “slavery is just wrong bro we’ll still segregate them don’t worry bro” to negros being turned in multi millionaire objects of worship, millions of white people turn up to concert arenas and sports stadiums to worship negros in the way their ancestors worshiped great white warriors, crazy bro
>>534610979>All I can say is everything republicans predicted 2 decades ago has come to fruition and is much worse than even they predictedbecause they have had a hand in making it happen. kike.
>>534610030>if you allow thing to get bad they could get worse
>>534614998>robably one of the three pillars of why society is endingkek, not a chance. too many rightoids are faggots. that genie isn't going back in the bottle.
>>534614943IF WE LET THAT FISH CRAWL OUT OF THE WATER THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW WE"LL BE FIGHTING OFF A NEW RACE OF DINOSAURS!!!!VOTE FOR ANON AND DEAL WITH THE EVOLVING FISH MENACE NOW!THROW THEM BACKTHROW THEM BACKTHROW THEM BACK
>>534610145>Anon that can't into statistics and risk management No wonder /pol/ has gone to shit
>>534615406Fallacies are reasoning mistakes. Not rhetorical tricks. You can use rhetoric to damage someone's reputation while not engaging in fallacious argumentation.
>>534615525
>>534615723good campaign poster
>>534610030>dont get fucked by niggers A>you will have nigglet Zslippery slope alright
>>534614797>appeal to old dead faggot's authority Lmfao stay retarded goyim
>slippery slope fallacy>invented by (((Alfred Sidgwick)))>no goyim it's the work of Aristotle Kiked thread
>>534615456Never said they didn't, I'm on 4chins, TF makes you think I'm a republican are we talking about voting? Fucking retard Where the fuck is gotcha on the fallacy list? Or do we just shunt that into the straw man category?
>>534613213How the fuck it's even possible to graduate with Fs?
>>534616037>"Logical fallacies are invented by kikes.">Is Aristotle a kike?>"Lol, Aristotle didn't come up with the slippery slope fallacy."
>>534616195When everything is permissable Kill your unborn child and open your borders to foreign hordes kinda opens a lot of doors
>>534610193right wing extremism is just a leftard colloquialism for centrism
>>534612749I don't have a lot of time rn but I will try to answer:It would depend on if the ad hom had a consensus of relevance, typically credibility. In other words, if I am a cigarette representative and I say nicotine is not as harmful as ethanol, then pointing out that I am paid to put a sugar coat on the topic is relevant because I am, and that suggests a possible flaw in the integrity of where my assertion comes from.I don't know if that helps but I think I am out of time. Have a good day.
>>534613213This shit reverse racism he literally not allowed to fail because his skin colour lmao
>>534616674still wouldn't be dealing with the argument itself. you'd just be introducing a new argument.
>>534610145Logic is not always necessary as it is easily mistaken. There are shortcuts to the path of truth and that includes the use of violence.
>>534610030>muh obsolete fallacies>muh good faith discourseI have a rather important question!Are psychotronic targeted weapons fallacies?Is algorithmic manipulation of perception considered discourse?And social engineering, peer pressure, spiritual assault, civilizational gaslighting, metaphysical catfishing, institutionalized chemical warfare, and cumulative noosphere poisoning could be considered part of an exchange of opinions?I say YES! It's all discourse but you are not part of it!My GOD /pol/, when it comes to social warfare, you all look like musket-wielding napoleonic soldiers with a flashy uniform walking into an Ukrainian drone killzone.
>>534616674>GOTTA BLAST your argument stands on its merit regardless of who you are and what your credentials are, you can't dismiss something out of hand based upon credentials anymore than you should agree with it >My dentist said I need braces, but I think he's full of shit because he just wants to make money Like are you snaggle toothed?? Maybe he's fucking right then! Argument from authority is a completely different topic! Ad hominem is like you telling me that I shouldn't play in traffic and my response is "yeah but remember when you drunkenly pissed your pants?" This is what this board is complete shit, you're all fucking morons
>>534616853>Logic is not always necessary as it is easily mistaken.The laws of logic don't change because some faggot made a mistake. 2+2=4 even if some contrarian retard insists that it's 5.>There are shortcuts to the path of truth and that includes the use of violence.So to prove that 2+2=4 all I have to do is shoot you in the head?
>>534610030Not a fallacy. Actually I think it's the ideological version of Zeno's "Arrow Paradox". picrelSo let's say a certain group wants to get from point A to point B on their agenda (the "arrow" in this case and the "target"). There are infinite number of "half steps" they can take to get there. These half-steps are basically pushing of the envelope by making the other side compromise constantly.So by endless compromise and keep pushing the issue, they can eventually reach point B or at least very close to it.>we just want to be "tolerated">we just want to live life like everyone else>we just want equality>we just want the same legal constructs applied to use (marriage)>we just want the ability to label you homophobic if you disagree>we just want to change our gender on paperwork>we just want to use your bathrooms>we just want to play in your sports>we just want to cut off our dicks and you pay for it>we just want to groom children into our own fantasy>we just want to load up children on hormones by age 6 if they "think" they are transdo you see how it works? each time they may not get exactly what they want but by the next step they will by preying on people's suicidal empathy/virtue signaling.
>>534610030It is a LOGICAL fallacy. Retarded niggers just think something being a logical fallacy means it can't indicate a 99.9% change that something will happen in the future.
>>534616939Smartest post in the /thread>I have more important things to discuss and that's not what you're talking about! Make a thread then
>you're all fucking morons>I don't like ad homsAnnnd now I remember why I haven't posted here in over a year. Because this is what you get for spending a few minutes to dignify what was apparently just bait.Ciao.
>>534617414Derailing! Child's play.But why go through the hurdle of making a thread and tailoring it as specific bait, when the desired target audience for an interjection has already gathered?
The slippery slope is a fallacy, just not in a liberal government because it’s designed to slide down the slippery slope.
>>534610030Its only a fallacy when there is no connection or proof of desire to get to Z at all, but when its mentioned IRL often it isn’t a fallacy at all.
>>534617717What you pointed out wasn't an ad hom. Read >>534612785
>>534617297But if I hit enough people with sticks it could be 5 >>534617325While interesting as a concept I fail to see why we are conflating paradoxes with fallacies and it doesn't disprove my pointIf anything it's >I didn't shoot you, I just released the string, somehow the developments are unrelated Like what the fuck point are you trying to make? Again taken aside interesting to consider but what the fuck does that have to do with this you autistic bastard
>>534617717We already talked about this you dumb dick licker, I can call you names all day if I'm still making an argument, this isn't a polite debate stage it's /pol/ moron there is a massive difference between >You're a dumbass And >Don't eat silica gel, it's toxic and can kill you dumbass And if you can't see it, go eat a silica gel packet and die>>534617718Are you seriously trying to assert that I'm the one derailing when you literally brought up a dozen different unrelated topics >Why go through the hurdle Do they not pay you per post anymore?
>>534617935>But if I hit enough people with sticks it could be 5The consensus theory of truth is even more retarded than the coherence theory of truth. Even if you force everyone to claim (not think because force can only stymie the mind, not direct it) that 2+2=5, the reality is that 2+2=4, and reality is unavoidable. Good luck trying to keep your force based society together when you can't do basic math.
>>534618243A rose by any other name I was attempting a joke Not discussing this further Yes 2+2 is always 4
>>534618217I'm still just doing it for the lulz, after all
>>534618479Fair play Nice b8 m8
>>534618433>A rose by any other nameIf he tried that, I'd point out that he's conflating the concept with the word.
>>534617935as part of Zeno's paradox on the Arrow it talks about how to get from point A to point B there infinitely divisible amount of "half steps" right? Meaning at this point in time the arrow is half-way between the last point and the target. Then move it half way to the target, again and again.Considering you can do this infinitely number of times it would seem, mathematically, that its impossible for the arrow to ever hit the target because they are infinite number of "half step" snapshots. But invariably it does reach the target.An idea moving (being pushed by people) is not much different. So the slippery slope is actually the paradox here. "That surely doesn't mean it could/would happen" yet invariably it does seem to be the exact way it happens.The connection here is the trajectory and velocity which an idea absolutely can and does have.
Christianity is cultural marxism. Gays need to be put to death
>>534610030A fallacy doesn't mean something is false. A fallacy means it's not necessarily true. Fallacy = argument is non existing or insubstantial. Like calling someone a nigger is an Ad Hominem, but the nigger can still be right.
>>534610030Are they transing the kids or something? What is the new daily wire talking point?
>>534611257Maybe I'm 90 IQ but I don't see how a slippery slope is an unsound fallacy. If you have a row of dominos in a line, you can safely assume domino 30 will fall because dominos 1-20 fell. It's just an observation.On the other hand, appeal to authority is a fallacy (rightly so) and yet it would be extremely time consuming to conduct your own research to determine the truth about sbibliography. Even professional researchers dont start from scratch, they typically build off of existing bibiliography. So even though its a technical fallacy it seems at least better than something like appeal to emotion which can lead someone to a completely unfounded conclusion.
>>534618745>And then one day for no reason at all Still don't get it, must be to retarded for whatever the fuck you're talking about
>>534618946Truth about something*
>>534618785>Christianity is cultural marxismnah, marxism is what you get when a God hating jew likes the idea of perfected Man and Heaven, and tries to create a system to bring into being on earth. Christianity is voluntary.
>>534618867I don't agree, fallacies are ALWAYS wrong and should be dismissed out of hand and have specific circumstances they apply to, NIGGER
>>534618946But saying "doctor fauccin said so" is the fallacy and if you're being logical you would indicate the actual RESEARCH he's conducted as a source and not just the fact that he has a fancy labcoat and gets paid by the government >One thing leads to another Is NOT a fallacy
>>534618946The dominoes falling is basic cause and effect that can be proved by observation, this is not a slippery slope fallacy. However if I say that the next post in this thread will mean that someone is not paying attention to their work, and because of that they get fired, and because of that they become homeless, and because of that they need money, and because of that they turn to crime, and because of that they will break into a home to rob it, and because of that they murder the occupants; and then I draw the conclusion that posting on 4chan causes murder, that's a slippery slope fallacy. If a cause is connected to an effect by a chain of unfalsifiable hypotheticals, then it's a slippery slope fallacy.
>>534619576I'm turning to a life of crime ;)
>>534619930See, proof that 4chan leads to murder. We need to ban this site to prevent more tragedies like this from happening.
>>534620082banning the board will lead to much worse crime levels in general.
>>534620082In all seriousness if you wanted to argue that spaces like this couldnt potentially lead to real life violence you wouldn't be fooling anyone We're just not as unhinged as our opponents, were not mentally unstable, just frustrated, after all
>>534620216But if /pol/ was allowed to exist, then a child might visit it, and because of that the child will be exposed to racist ideas, and because of that they will become a racist, and because of that no one will like them, and because of that they can't get laid, and because of that they will become an incel, and because of that they will feel rage at everyone in society, and because of that they will commit a mass shooting. See, /pol/ leads to mass shootings, this is impeccable logic and can't be criticized because fallacies don't exist.
>>534620216Posting and seeing content from here makes you feel better about life in general? Have I been doing it wrong this whole time?
>>534619300>>534619576Gotcha, thanks bros.
>>534620476i feel absolutely paralyzed. everything leads to the worst possible outcome.>>534620544its a release valve. also, nothing posted here is news to me because i already assume the absolute worst at all times.
>>534620476AH AH GOTCHA NIGGER, APPEAL TO MAJORITYwhat's wrong with being racist?? Poke holes in the logic but a slippery slope is not INHERENTLY fallacious the same way a straw man argument is For the record I just fucked last night, toast to a day off
>>534620604No problem, plan on making more threads like this, I think pop. Psych fucked a lot of peopes heads up these words need definitions and examples and part of left wing obfuscation is confusing everything, you can't even call a retard a retard anymore, but they take terms and make them mean everything (oh you only drink ice water? Autism) or nothing (he's a migrant worker)
>>534620712Well it is a chain of unfalsifiable hypotheticals that lead to an absurd conclusion that plays to the preexisting prejudices of people that hate this board, who would likely accept some variation of the same slippery slope.
>>534610030just like "no true Scotsman"
When outlined like it is in the OP, it is a fallacy. When outlined as "if we do A, we must be wary of Z," it's not a fallacy.
i refer to it as the "not actually a fallacy" fallacy for want of a better descriptionhappens sometimes with accusations of ad hominems too
Fallacy isn't something false but something that doesn't follow a logical chain. In fact the slippery slope is a Fallacy otherwise it would always be true , that doesn't mean things can't get worse or even generally don't get worse
>>534620711>everything leads to the worst possible outcome.with jews you lose
>>534620942I hope they're right, TF do you mean I 100% believe the existence of this board will eventually lead to far right motivated violence, and if you think it won't leave it alone They bitch because they KNOW it's coming, DONT DO IT, I DONT ADVOCATE VIOLENCE but the PROPAGANDA it's coming, probably another two white girls need to get stabbed in the neck for no reason Classic if it was effective you wouldn't try so hard, this isn't about containment it's about keeping an eye on things (((they))) cant stop
>>534610030Whether something is a logical fallacy or not has nothing to do with whether it is true or not. Slippery slope arguments are valid because they are based on experience, history, psychology, human nature, etc. and not because they confirm to the minimally identified Greek logical formulas; therefore they are still a logical fallacy(not actually derogatory).
>>534621122>>534621235If you're gonna save it stfu
>>534621513Oh have we not had any of that since Aristotle you FUCKING retard, go scratch linesmin the sand and figure out per capita
>>534621513>Slippery slope arguments are validFallacies are not valid arguments by definition.>experience, history, psychology, human nature, etc.I'm willing to bet you don't understand any of these fields.>and not because they confirm to the minimally identified Greek logical formulasThose formulas are the only means of drawing valid inferences. Without that, no conclusions can be drawn from experience, history, psychology, "human nature", quantum physics, string theory, or any other scientific field. This means you're committing a stolen concept fallacy.
Slippery slope is 100% a legitimate, real phenomenon. Yes, you cannot prove that anything is going to happen in the future, but nothing is ever perfect and we always rely on acceptable estimations. There is an endless list of real life slippery slope cascading effects. The one i immediately think of is how you cannot have the transgender depravity in western society without implementing the federal legalization of gay marriage. There’s no way in which trannies start obtaining civil rights without initially legalizing a less absurd and relatively more “socially accepted” position. Once you open the door to recognizing faggotry and sodomy, why not recognize everyone else’s way of life?
>>534621922>They said this thing is a thing a thousand years ago so it's trueShould we examine CIRCULAR REASONING you dumb bitch
>>534622353yeah, the history of how faggotry progressed is a great example. if you'd told people back inthe 80's that fag marriage would not only be legal but celebrated on TV and in movies etc 30 years later you were definitely called a bigot using slippery slope fallacies. ( slippery slope fallacies ) it even sounds homosexual.
>>534610030A fallacy isn’t something that can never be trueIt’s just something that isn’t necessarily always true but is frequently presented as if it isIe: NATURALISTIC FALLACYIt is a plain fact that the natural order is often right. Murder and theft are naturally detrimental to group cohesion and intergroup relations so they are naturally bad for the survival of a social species. But the naturalistic fallacy is saying things like “rape is natural, therefore good”. Same with faggots. They naturally spread biological and mental disease. They are naturally bad. But many less social, lower species are naturally homosexual hence the fallacy. I do not leave any room for metaphysics in this argument. I reject that metaphysics exists. God is not real. Jesus is roman fanfiction. Your DMT trip was not a dive into true reality, it was your brain trying to comprehend heuristic archetypes as raw input.
>>534610030The slippery slope is a fallacy specifically if one says "if A happens, then B MUST happen", but in reality what people said (and wrongly got accused of using the slippery slope "fallacy") was that, "if A happens, then the likelihood of B, C and D also strongly increases since permissiveness in one area always leads to adjacent groups to seek more permissiveness in their own".
>>534610030ive been saying this for years. the sticky pisses me off, who the fuck posted that? some faggot debate club reddit nerd? FUCK OFF!
>>534622661>>534616218I never claimed that logic was true because of the authority of Aristotle. Given your evident retardation, it's not surprising that you resort to strawmanning.
>>534622676Some things are just blaringly predetermined and predictable. Once a legal precedent is set for something like gay marriage, then any other more intense sexual depravity will have a strong probability of being sanctioned by the State. Homosexuality was always seen as a sin and unfavorable lifestyle in the majority of societies, and marriage was always defined as being between a man and woman for the purpose of procreation. Once you throw a wrench into that, marriage loses its meaning and you now have open fertile ground for doing whatever the fuck you want with traditional morality
>>534623435when you look at it, everything is already in place for open pedophilia to be accepted. its just a matter to gradually grow acceptance. if kids can choose to take puberty blockers and have surgeries, then why cant they choose to enter relationships with whoever they claim to love, especially since sex and, as you say marriage, have been so devalued and normalized to the point of being no more than akin to eating dinner?its all there. is it a slippery slope argument? sure, but its got a good pedigree.
>>534623435On the other hand some societies that abhor fags still let men have sex with animals so it’s not the only thingLooking at you, iranAnd china (yes, china has NO bestiality law nor any severe social shame pertaining to it)Supposedly catholic latinos do a lot of animal fucking as well despite the law (unenforced). I was part of an effort to get a costa rican openly practicing zoophile arrested and the spic cops do not care that there is irrefutable proof he has sex with his dog. At some level being white, having european DNA, is the source for the instinctive feelings of disgust and injustice that drive our moral valuesMoral collapse causes mental illness in our society. In other societies somehow people live happy normal lives despite donkey fucking being a widely known village norm (see: colombia). People that make us whites want to vomit or bash skulls in do not elicit ANY response from brownsWhen we catch dogfuckers we hate them without knowing whyWhen browns catch someone fucking a dog they laugh about it
>>534623687Exactly. The prediction of state-sanctioned pedophilia is not really insane to argue considering what leftists are trying to argue today with regards to “trans rights” for kids. >>534623852The lack of moral compass in brown third world nations is completely correlated with how much of a shithole it is.
>>534612797The case is still hot. 9 hours ago:https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cm2pdd0rmv4o
>>534610030I knew this for years. Don't bother yourself with logical fallacies. To argue against a logical fallacy is a logical fallacy in and of itself because human aren't logical and it's illogical to expect that logic applies.The world isn't ruled by logic and neither are humans, logic has its uses but they are limited to phenomena that infallibly always perform the same. Wherever will comes into question, logic is entirely useless.People who guide their reasoning with logical rules are mentally weak, they do it because they need to believe that there is a finite set of rules that will successfully guide them through life in 100% of scenarios. That is not how life works and it never was. Life is complex, the world is complex and humans are complex. It's an intellectual cowardice to believe that shit is relevant.
>>534625014you're completely misunderstanding the use of knowing about this stuff. its not the be-all-and-end-all of even debate or discussion, as some would have it, by any means; they are just a certain set of tools for helping with clarity of thinking and expression, while helping a person spot if someone else is trying to use dishonest arguments for their own purposes.thats all. they are not a guide to life lol>The world isn't ruled by logic but it is described by it, at least in terms of mathematical descriptions of the material world, since math is logic too. >. It's an intellectual cowardice to believe that shit is relevant.its simple ignorance to believe logic is irrelevant.
>>534625014>Reality isn't logical.Does existence exist? If so, then the law of identity applies to reality. And the rest of logic can be derived from the law of identity.
>>534610030I think the idea is you need more than one data point to conclude a trend.
>>534621922And yet look around you; slippery slope always comes to pass as predicted
>>534625014Pretty much. The age of debate is over. It’s time to revert back to the natural order of the world and enforce your will onto your enemies. Conservatives are naive retards that think everything can magically be resolved by engaging in civil, logical discourse with their mortal enemies. The Left threw the rule book out decades ago, they are all violent revolutionaries or at the very minimum support some level of revolution and rule breaking in indirect ways. I want a right wing dictator at this point instead of the endless bullshit of getting literally nowhere with the current system of democracy while our country is taken over by the third world and open faggotry and degeneracy
>>534625567So I guess 4chan does cause break-in murders >>534619576 and mass shootings >>534620476
>>534610030What those advocating for things like faggots and trannies are doing is more like actual grooming than anything else. Groomers try to ease their victims into accepting some small concessions first, often dressed up with innocent intentions. Like I remember 20+ years ago, some actual faggot was trying to groom my younger brother on Xbox live. The way he did it was by complementing him a lot and in some cases, letting him win, and so when he wanted to arrange a private game (where he could talk to him more in private), it was under the ruse of, "that trick you was awesome, can you show me it?" And he was pretending not to know it. I figured it out pretty quickly (even though I was only 18 myself) what was going on and my brother blocked the guy and we both even reported him (nothing happened of course, how do you prove he's a predator when he's still only just trying to act like a friend and just giving off a "bad vibe" as the kids these days call it).So back to the faggots:>"We just want rights, nobody is imposing our lifestyle on you"Some time later:>"Bake the fucking cake bigot!"All of the other stuff, like the "Pride Parades" were just sold as a way for gays to "feel safe" and "come out of the closet" and see they had friends. But with enough time, then you see faggots can't help themselves, after enough years go by and people are used to it, they're wearing more revealing clothing and even deciding to expose their genitals in front of children. And do their sick stuff like ball clamping or even fisting, but that only happens after the initial grooming process has succeeded. If they were being beaten in the streets years prior, they wouldn't be bold enough to do the more extreme stuff later.So in short, forget about logical fallacies, call it what it is: grooming.
>>534625333>>534625357Way to misintepret my point, jewish/10. Good job boys
>>534625778Not that you could prove it since there's no logic.
>>534610206>You gave them the inchSCOTUS did that, not me. And some 50% of the country were happy to see it happen (higher than that even, iirc from the polls) because of libtardation and "fairness" and "care." Jews of course promote all of this on an institutional level so it's really their doing. But what do you even mean by asking something in return? Let the gays get married on the condition they don't accept media jobs after the Hollyjews decide that every piece of pop culture or news media needs at least one gay? And ask them nicely not to start teaching gay sex and 100 different genders in elementary schools? No one really foresaw this would happen, except maybe the Christian right. Anyone who was against fag marriage during their final push for legalization in the first half of the 2010s was based and right about everything. Former libtards like myself got played by the jews. But fool me once... you can't get fooled again.
>>534625778seems that you misrepresented your own point, but dont bother trying to prove it or anything seeing as how humans are not logical and thats not how life works and stuff.
>>534610030If slippery slope wasn't a real thing then explain slippery slopes, one step and you're fucked
>>534612174that's the basis of all logical constructors. without cause and effect, most logic becomes useless. so for slippery slope to actually be a fallacy, you'd have to be wrong about a causing b, or b being bad. But that doesn't point to a flaw in the structure of the argument, like the other fallacies do.
>4chan: Causation and slippery slope are the same thing!
