> ICE activity led to a "negative and significant impact" on employment of U.S.-born working men with at most a high-school education working in sectors likely affected by enforcement, like construction, a working paper published in the National Bureau of Economic Research found.>It also found that there is no evidence that employers have driven up wages to attract U.S.-born workers. Rather, the results reflect a reduction in overall demand.https://www.wsj.com/opinion/mass-deportation-american-jobs-nber-university-of-colorado-boulder-study-e06e26af
>>534623776Desperate spin. Pack your bags, Pablo.
The fact that not a single person who hired any illegals has seen a charge or a day in jail is why nothing will change Nothing stops them from just rehiring more illegals after a raid so they will continue to
>>534623776Illegals take up more welfare than all citizens combined. Want your free college and healthcare? Remove the 20 million people taking it away from you.
>>534623966And there are plenty to hire because Trump has deported less than 2% of illegals.
>>534623776>jewish journalismFuck off.
>>534623981*100 million - 50 million illegals and 50 million minor dependents
>>534624043All the anti ICE protesters and judge activists should be sent to jail for treason. Trump has deported more than Biden and Obama.
>>534623877>>534624100>ignores facts and evidence that are inconvenient for the narrative
>>534623981coolnow post the absolute numbers
>>534624145That's great, man.I'm glad that he's bailed the most water off the sinking ship instead of dealing with the guy who's actively poking holes because his financial wellbeing depends on it.
>>534624171God you aren't even trying with this bait seriously kill yourself you lazy fuck
Why do white people constantly call for the deportation of illegal immigrants when they themselves would never do the jobs illegal immigrants do?I ask white people this:1. Could you work outdoors harvesting crops for 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, in 38°C weather?If your answer is yes, then here is the next question:2. Could you live with the cost of living being 2 ~ 3 times higher than it is now?
>>534623776>less unfair competition harms american workersYeah nah.
>>534624386can you tell me what's unfair?
>>534623776Does mass illegal immigration help us?
>>534624379A failed English teacher is making a retarded post again
>>534624337>not an argument>no evidence presented
>>534623776finds out the leftoids were right about this too. i wonder how much else they were right about?
>>5346244670/10
>>534623776The piss poor wages for unskilled labor was allowed to become piss poor because of illegals. Now you're telling me that they're throwing a hissy fit and refusing to hire US citizens with higher wages and instead would rather just do nothing? Ok, I'm fine with that. We raced to the bottom for 30 years. Now we're at the bottom, which benefits rich fucks and business owners. I fully expect them to want to remain there, so yeah, I'm not surprised they after a few months of deporting mexicans, they're not budging. It'll take time. And even if it doesn't rebound, I'm fine with it. We should have never allowed things to get this bad, but we did, so pull the fucking plug.
>>534624447See? Even you White people can't say "YES" to those two simple questions. You know perfectly well that you would never survive working in those conditions and you certainly wouldn't survive the massive inflation that would follow if all that cheap labor disappeared.The fact that you are avoiding the questions proves that you White people are completely dependent on the very immigrants you claim to despise. You want the benefits of their labor but you are too entitled to do the work yourself or pay the real price for it. The hypocrisy of white people is truly disgusting.
Leftist bros this cope is just way too much.
>>534624963why do you think trump made a "golden visa" you will now be replaced "legally" by mega corps who can afford hiring foreigners
>>534623776>The Editorial Boardadd it to the list>bankers>merchants>billionaires>tech CEOs>holocaust survivors
>>534623776Everything that right wingers do is to destroy society they know that it drives down wages they want you poor
>>534623776By "the editorial board"so nobody wanted to attach their name to this pile of propaganda?
>>534624379strange how these jobs somehow got done before we flooded the country with illegals and the cost of living wasn't 2-3 times higher than it is now.
>>534625383now look at your debt in the last 30 yearsthere's your answer
>>534623776>oh no not the hecking line going down, better import a million niggers
>>534624379No one can answer this because no one but 80 year olds have experienced a truly white society, you would be surprised. Just look at the asian bugmen salarymen would they slave away for browns? Probably not.
>>534625369Here is the original paper from National Bureau of Economic Research:https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w35129/w35129.pdf
>>534624379>1. Could you work outdoors harvesting crops for 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, in 38°C weather?We have machines for that, human labor is not required. Just like the cotton gin rendered slavery obsolete, automation is rendering basic labor obsolete. This will continue and the population will be reduced to compensate for the lack of employment, there will be no UBI you'll just be starved to death.Take a look at the US horse population before and after the introduction of the Ford model T.That's what's gonna happen to us.
>>534623966>The fact that not a single person who hired any illegals has seen a charge or a day in jail is why nothing will changeIllegals use fake SSNs you dumbfuck. Why can't you morons get it through your thick skulls? According to the paperwork, they're legit!"Oh well surely the employer must suspect..."Yeah, probably, but you expecting them to racially profile all hispanics makes lawyers salivate.
>>534624379>should we improve the conditions of these horrible jobs by phasing them out with tech that is available and reduce the human aspect?>no. we shall import stupid brown people to do these jobs in even worse condition as legal slave labor and allow them into our societyBrilliant thinking, retard doro-poster.
>>534625744if it was that easy to do the would have already done it LOL
>>534625696You know e-verify exists right?>>534625744>Great, let me know when the 'tech' exists. In 10 years?>534625383Now look up the average standards of living 50 years ago.
>>534624242
>>534624379Why are you only complaining about white people?There have been SHITLOADS of blacks at town halls yelling at city officials about illegals getting welfare money saying it should be going to them instead.
Meanwhile Nickers is the only one flat out saying a recession or depression is acceptable and welcomed if it means getting rid of all browns in the country, and everyone spergs out on him in response.
>>534624379>we need brown slaves because who will pick my strawberries? My millions of $ won't be worth nearly as much if the people of the country make a decent wage.Threadly reminder that if wages had kept up with inflation minimum wage would be like $75 an hour and houses would cost like $50,000 and a year of school would cost like $10,000 including room and board and books.We're not going to save the world until we murder everyone over the social security age or at minimum strip their right to vote and hold office. I'm okay with either way.Trump just said he doesn't want to lower the price of homes because people like you would lose value and people like me could afford homes they "didn't earn". But you also don't want me to make a decent living. Saturnian.
>>534625383They still stopped the moment someone else arrived to do the jobs and never once thought about going back.
>>534625383It is hilarious that you are comparing the past to the present while ignoring the fact that you White people have fundamentally changed. In the past your people actually had a high enough birth rate to provide a workforce and they had the work ethic to do difficult labor without demanding a fortune. Today you White people are so soft and entitled that you refuse to pick up a shovel unless you are paid $4,000 a month to do it.If you actually deported every illegal immigrant tomorrow your precious cost of living would skyrocket because no young White person is willing to break their back in a field for 12 hours a day
>>534625987>e-verifyYou mean that democrats destroyed because they gave all illegals driver's licenses?
>>534626862ok now how much money they spend on welfare for white people
>>534627137I'm happy that White people make you this mad. But no, blacks and legal Mexicans actually complain about illegals even more.
>>534627212Less than what is being spent on illegals.
>>534624379western economies rely on a constant stream of disposable, high turnover labor as well as new consumers for the market. to return to pre-2000s illegal immigrant numbers proportional to the total population of the u.s. at that time, we would have to deport over 2+ million illegals every year for the next 20 years AND not let a single new illegal in during that time
>>534627297post the $$ number please
>>534627432Good. Bye. You don't seem to get it you either leave with the nice men peacefully or we just set your abuela on fire in the night.
>>534625744that's the modern left for you
>>534623776>IllegalsGET THEM OUTGET THEM ALL OUT!After they are gone and as they get out we will recalibrate our systems and right the way business is done.
>>534625520The reality is that your machines cant do everything and you White people are so lazy that you are the ones becoming obsolete like those horses you mentioned.Keep waiting for your machines while real people take over your country because they are willing to do the work you think you are too superior for lol
>>534627137>in a field for 12 hours a dayhow 8 hours a day like a normal worker?just say you want slaves
>>534623776A lot of them weren't working anyway, the job loss has more to do with them firing tons of do nothing federal employees, most of them black women. The only people who say we need to flood the country with billions of 75IQ mongoloids are rich people who want to pay employees less.
>>534624171Yes that is what the author of this slop was doing, thank you for noticing.Now pack those bags Paco
>>534627734>while real people take over your countryand run it into the ground like they did their shitholesPost your hand, i bet it's the colour of shit.
>>534624043>>534624286So, are you implying that you want Trump to deport even more illegals? Ir are you saying that you are against deporting illegsls?
>>534627778coolenjoy paying more for everything from the increased costs of producing the same
>>534624416Illegals existing.
>>534627450I heard the number is infinite dollars with no end in sight and it's still justified because whites pay for it.
>>534625744Well.. You call them stupid brown people yet you White people are the ones who have become so incompetent that your entire lifestyle would collapse without their laborIf your tech was actually ready to replace them you would have done it already but Instead, white people are still desperately relying on illegal labor just to keep their stores stocked and their streets clean.
>>534627137>a gook>talking about birth ratesThat’s rich. >whites are entitledA lot are, that’s true. Here’s the thing: we can build great civilizations again from nothing. It’ll be a painful selection event, but that’s fine. You, on the other hand…
>>534624145>deport mexicans>import indianslol treason lmao
>>534628062The people who openly want to kill whites "for not trying enough" or something while also wanting to having brown slaves have again arrived. Kind of interesting but I don't think I'll gather new knowledge here.
>>534623776Cutting out the cancerous organizations which subsist on illegal labor will be painful.
>>534628061Stfu stupid little subhuman. You’re a chink rapebaby
>>534627951If all the browns get expelled from the country as a result... I will pay a LOT more.
>>534625383>strange how these jobs somehow got doneFarms hired kids/teens once upon a time, 4H or the usual community bulletin board would funnel them to actual farm jobs that paid wages kids/teens were fine with, think the chicken farm scene from Napoleon Dynamite, just a rotating group of kids/teens each week, but less destitute like most Utah farms. But this somehow became inhumane, cruel, child slavery from evil farmers abusing subsidies from the horrendous big gubmint they hate, etc. Even though Juan and his brothers were forced into the strawberry fields as kids with cans of greywater by Dad before coming to the US, it's absolutely VITAL we let them be farmworkers here, because it's clearly what they've been doing all their life, so it's okay! Just not for actual US kids, it's slavery
>>534628236>for you
>>534628190Well what’d you expect? Non whites of all stripes are eternally ass-mad because they’re too stupid too see that modern life is only possible because of whites, period, but they’ll never give it up. This the cognitive dissonance paired with jealousy takes over and they cope with “you’re just lazy.”Id happily watch a PPV of North Korea invading their lazy southern counterparts.
>>534626966You White people constantly brag that this civilization was built by Whites and belongs only to Whites so naturally the focus must be on you. When have you White people ever looked at Black people as fellow citizens or even human beings? It is pathetic to watch you White people hide behind the very groups you despise just to avoid answering for your own laziness and incompetence. You claimed ownership of society so stop crying about why people are talking about you while you fail to maintain it lol
>>534625696A lot of employers are really fucking lazy and obviously know the illegals are lying. One manager famously had a whole army of Mexicans and Guatemalans and he had Juan 1 Juan 2 etc name badges for them. A lot of them used the same numbers and paperwork. No punishment. The incentives are fucked. Employ as many illegals as you want and it's like a 50 dollar fine. The situation would change overnight if managers were being perp walked for hiring illegals. Doubly so if there managers could flip on the C Suite or boards of companies for conspiracy to employ illegals. Until the incentives make it not worth it, the illegal hiring will continue
>>534628434You chink rapebabies do the same lmao what an insect you are
This is why we need a 200 million dollar ballroom paid for by rich donors. I think a 400 million dollar ballroom could help with national security. We need the American public to pay for the 400 million dollar ballroom. Look, If you don't want Trump to have a 1 billion dollar ballroom paid for by your own money, then you are a terrorist
>>534628434>you built it and expect the fouls to be on youYes.>when have you ever looked at blacks as equalsLive around them then get back to me on that>you won’t answer for your lazinessWe are victims of our own success. Our decadence comes from getting nothing but net for centuries in a row. That paired with the Cantillon effect explains what you see today. Simple.>society is yours and you’re mad that people are destroying it>as they demand a life better than what their shithole offeredDo you even hear yourself?
>>534628356I worked the county fair for multiple years in mclean county IL, 2008-2010, we hosted the 4h fair every year as well. This was a 'blue' state, but there were just a bunch of white hick chad farmers that actually showed up. And a few beaners who ran tractors and mowers here and there. But it was just such chill hick white society and I miss it dearly.
>>534627212Less than on illegals. The majority of welfare SHOULD be spent on whites. It’s our country. And we’re the only group that are net tax contributors.
>>534627951I will enjoy it. I will enjoy not seeing hordes of browns using up our welfare. I’ll also enjoy the lowered cost of living and quality of life increases.
>>534628702Got some stats to back that up? And I don't wanna see refugees and asylum seekers who would obviously get welfare.
>>534627951>enjoy not having people who hate you everywhereI will.
>>534627066It is hilarious that you are talking about a $75 hourly wage you moron lmao In what world does any country pay that much for simple labor? The law of the market is simple: jobs that anyone can do are always the lowest paid. That is how capitalism and the market economy work. Your ridiculous demand perfectly shows how out of touch with reality you White people have become. Why should the market pay you a massive premium for simple labor just because you are White?Your sense of entitlement and laziness are the primary reasons why your society is collapsing. Immigrants didn't destroy anything. They are simply filling the gaps that you White people created through your own failure. In fact they didn't even have to force their way in. Your own government is so fed up with lazy local White people that they are actively inviting immigrants to keep the country running.
>>534628816It is actually so simple if you really think about it too, do billionaires care if the cost of food goes up or down? No. Why do they keep repeating this talking point, then? Because it eats into their profits. THAT is what scares them, not paying $8 for some shitty street taco instead of $3. That is what this is all about. That is what it has always been about. Do not be subverted.
>>534623776>The supposed explanation is behind a paywall So this is more unsubstantiated Jewish bullshit. Fuck you OP.
>>534628434>When have you White people ever looked at Black people as fellow citizens or even human beings?They aren’t. Why would I?You’re a dipshit liberal in the US trying to be a teacher in a different country. Why should anyone listen to you?
>>534627432Thank you for your calculations. That is precisely the reality of the current white society created by white people.That idiotic sense of entitlement that one must do easy, short-hours, and high-paying work simply because one is white has created a white society that operates only by relying on the illegal labor of immigrants lol
>>534625696Not the construction and landscaper spics. they get paid cash in hand at the end of the day. Start arresting some boomer contractors.
>>534629003Lmao you poorfag
>>534628844Obviously. Old infographic but it’s only magnified the last decade >And I don't wanna see refugees and asylum seekers who would obviously get welfare.Why the fuck would you exclude them? They are leeches. They are using funds and not contributing.
>>534627951>nooo you'll have to pay more while also making more while none of your $ is being flushed down the toilet in remittances and ESL classes for their retarded children that will never EVER be able to read
>>534629298Is this citizens or illegals?
>>534627066Why do you keep responding to the nihilistic pedophile.
>>534624416Undercutting. Nepotism. Cronyism. Price fixing. Tax avoidance. Good lord memeflag, what an innocent view you have of the world.
>>534629298The thing is the vast majority of the shitskins don't retain any of the wealth redistributed via taxation, it all fuels the consoomption of people living paycheck to paycheck. Who cashes in? Fucking kikes of course.
>>534629298>why exclude leeches when asking about leeches>show me who’s fat, but not the people that eat McDonald’s every day, just the people with fucked up thyroids
>>534623776Wow, you mean deporting beaners harms men who can't find jobs? Weird, because that doesn't make sense to me when they hardly work even when they have full-time?
>>534628061Because they have become lazy and complacent.What White people need is a splash of ice cold water to the face.ALL ILLEGALS MUST GO.NOW.Only then will the White people you speak of be able to make it right again.Illegal workers are an unnecessary crutch to true White innovation.The crutches must be thrown off all at once.
>>534629231Your country just lowered visa regulations for foreign workers because you’re a lazy subhuman nation.
>>534623981>20 million peoplethat's low by 80 million, but it's a good start
>>534624379>1. Could you work outdoors harvesting crops for 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, in 38°C weather?White people can just automate this with machinery which only they know how to operate. The only reason spics are around to do it is literally out of mercy, they could be completely replaced by tomorrow and nothing would change
>>534624379illegal aliens take all cash paying jobs they can find, not just farming. they also manage to get jobs in food service, retail, valet, everything that can be used to get yourself on your feet and gain experience for a career.
>>534625383>strange how these jobs somehow got done before we flooded the country with illegals and the cost of living wasn't 2-3 times higher than it is now.Those jobs got done because after we couldn't use niggers (except in the south, where they just replaced slavery with sharecropping) we imported millions of wops, chinks, micks, and polacks to similarly exploit with low wages for heavy labor. Spics are just the latest evolution of this strategy.The American laboring underclass has always been built on immigrants treated like shit (and even in the case of Yuros, not even considered white) by WASPs desperate to avoid paying reasonable wages.
>>534629566Wouldn’t matter if they all went, this pedo would still complain. Because it hates whites, simple as. It doesn’t understand that we’d prefer hardship over leeches. Makes you wonder why….
>>534623776>but actuallyNope, wrong again faggot. Get your shit and get out.
>>534623966Not true, business owners get in deep shit when they do, the Kike news doesn't report on it to fool people like you.
>>534623776>Trust us goyNo
>WSJ arguing against deportations.More proof that illegal immigration is helping the rich while fucking over the working class. Modern democrats are retarded as fuck.
This article being released implies the admin is actually planning mass deportations. The faction that's been shitting up Trump's deportation plans have lost so they're going to the people.
>>534623776Trump was literally the president that deported fewer people in modern history.Bill "GTFO of my country" Clinton deported 12MGeorge "you need to be this white to enter" Bush deported 11MBarack "wetback slayer" Obama deported 3M peopleDonald "we need more indians" Trump deported only 900k peopleAmericans are so bad at math that they believe in the holocaust...
>>534624171he just stated facts and evidence
>>534624171kike coded post btw
>>534623776What’s really going on is they are deporting people because they know jobs are declining and they hope that makes it less noticeable. Even if they stopped jobs would still be vanishing.
>Study findsTotal annihilation of all jews cannot come soon enough.
>>534624379You dumb fucking retard I used to do 6-10 hour days mid summer 30+ degree construction work.>Could you live with the cost of living being 2 ~ 3 times higher than it is now?We could go to very furthest extent of the logic and come to the conclusion that if one country were to flood every human all 8 billion into then houses would become free.
>>534627242The ones who would be truly furious are not me but your White ancestors who risked their lives crossing oceans and conquering lands without any guarantee of success just to hand down a golden age to their descendants lol, not meWithin just one generation you have surrendered not just an industry or two but your entire society back to the very people your ancestors once conquered.Yes? understand? Everything that past White people achieved is now becoming the property of those you used to look down upon. Is there anything more infuriating or more pathetic than watching your legacy crumble because you were too soft and lazy to protect it? lol
>>534623981Illegals don't qualify for welfare you stupid nigger.
>>534630118>>534630177Brown coded posts btw
>>534630318>illegals can’t get heckin welfareOof, she doesn’t know…
>>534624145Why people like you even exist
>>534629914wronghttps://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/declining-enforcement-employer-sanctions>They warned that "[a] low level of enforcement activity could lead many employers to discount the possibility that violations will be detected and punished, thus weakening the deterrent effect."Been this way for fucking DECADES buddy.In fact prior to 2016 Bernie Sanders declared that open borders was a Koch Bros scheme to lower pay for US citizens. It's a bipartisan issue to fuck us in the ass.
>>534627137>In the past your people actually had a high enough birth rate to provide a workforce and they had the work ethic to do difficult labor without demanding a fortune.>the human population will continue to increase ad infinitum>the larger the population, the better the living conditions>just look at India. It has the largest population on the planet. And is the best country in the world. So much so that EVERYONE wants to go live there
>>534630416So you think illegals can walk into a the welfare office and get benefits?Post proof retarded nigger
>>534630285This little dicklet really spent his whole day seething about Whites. Rent free.
>>534623776Damn. I was really looking forward to picking apples for $5 an hour, and super concerned that Jose took that opportunity from me. Well, at least Palantir got billions of dollars to track down Jose. That certainly helps me, the working-class guy.
>>534630318wronghttps://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrants-and-USBorn-2024>Feb 4, 2026 — Among illegal immigrants, also called the undocumented, we estimate the rate is 61 percent. We have no evidence that this is due to fraud.And I'm going out on a limb and saying the other 39% are in fact committing fraud. I worked for ACORN I saw a never ending stream of women coming in getting free everything housing healthcare dental vision bus passes phones. Pre Obama Phone these fat whores were getting Bush phones.This board is nothing but brown children now. Sad.
>>534627778That is exactly what is happening in the US right now. People are working 12 hours a day for far less pay than any local would ever accept. If that isnt slave labor then what is?And why is this happening? It is happening because you White people refuse to do the work. Even though these are essential jobs that keep a society running White people who make up the largest part of the population avoid anything that is dirty difficult or physically demanding. You White people are so full of entitlement that you only look for easy high paying jobs. Because there is no one left to do the actual work the system resorts to bringing in illegal immigrants and treating them like slaves just to survive. In short, Your own laziness and elitism created this slave labor system you claim to hate
>>534630634It does. Now you can finally get a job, incel
>>534630675So it's their AMERICAN kids receiving benefits.Thanks for proving my point, stupid nigger
>>534630285You know. You seem to come onto this board every day and cry about white people. You claim they are so useless and pathetic. But if that were true, why would you spend your more valuable time on here complaining about them day after day?
>>534630577Do you understand that tax-funded handouts come from other places than just the “welfare office”? Come back in 5 years when you’re 18.
>>534630734>And why is this happening? It is happening because you White people refuse to do the work.Can I ask you something? How do you think value is determined?
>>534628062Stop pretending you have the grit to build anything because the world can see that you White people are the weakest generation in history lol
>>534630734>that you only look for easy high paying jobsThey wouldn't be high paying if everyone could do those jobs....
>>534630675Yeah this place has become completely brown. You should have seen the total meltdowns this board was having during the fat renee culling
>>534631000>asian talking about weaknessFucking lmfao
>>534628356once we get rid of brown people voting, we can restore sanity to laws
>>534631000BTW I get you're the same retard who complained about how white people were more expensive for construction jobs in comparison to the Singh retards here in Canada. You said that white people were lazy AND more expensive. Meanwhile its white people going in to fix all the mistakes the retarded foreigners are making while building homes.
>>534629375Citizens. Illegals don’t pay taxes so it’s even worse. The only way they could pay taxes is by stealing someone’s SSN which is a major felony. They clog up hospitals and never pay, they send their kids to publicly funded schools that’s they don’t fund. Even if they got $0 welfare (which isn’t true) they are net drains. You can’t weasel your way out of the truth leaf.
>>534624043>Trump has deported less than 2% of illegalsthey are only deporting criminals so it has very limited impact on the labor market at all. this entire report is nonsensical bullshit.
>>534627951>enjoy paying more for everything>everythingHousing?Healthcare?Insurance? The most expensive necessities will be much cheaper. If groceries go up somewhat, that's fine.
>>534631000Hey retard answer me this. How is value determined?
>>534623776Why isn’t Canada number 1 economy then?https://cryptorank.io/news/feed/50215-south-korea-overtakes-canada-stock-market
>>534631000>gook in a country built from scratch with western money and tech instead of being slaughtered by other goons and chinks>so mired in decadence that inside of 3 generations you’re on the brink of going extinct >let me tell YOU who’s weakMmk
>>534629492>The thing is the vast majority of the shitskins don't retain any of the wealth redistributed via taxationDisagree. It’s not cash received by them that they spend. It’s also services that have a dollar value that otherwise could be used elsewhere (or not even exist in the first place).
>>534629566It is hilarious that you think deporting all immigrants will somehow wake up you White people and spark some magical innovation lmao You are like a spoiled child throwing away his only pair of shoes because he thinks it will make him learn to fly lolIn reality if every illegal and legal immigrant disappeared tomorrow your society would collapse before you even had time to wash your face with that ice cold water you keep talking about.Who is going to pick the crops before they rot in the sun? Who is going to process your meat and keep the grocery stores stocked?Certainly not you White people who have spent decades avoiding any job that involves actual sweat or dirt. You White people aren't going to make it right you are just going to prove to the entire world that you are physically and mentally incapable of surviving without the labor of the people you claim to despise kek
>>534631376>weak asian repeating its self again
>>534631376Hey buddy, how is value determined?
>>534631376>Who is going to pick the crops before they rot in the sun?Who is going to process your meat and keep the grocery stores stocked?Hey retard. If people are already accepting $5/hr to do this work. There is no fucking need to bring more of them in.
>>534631312Oh, please don't misunderstand me. I have no interest in things like eugenics, comparing races to determine which is superior.What I am saying is that the current white generation is the weakest of all white generations.Your ancestors left for places where they could have died in order to pursue what they wanted, pioneering and building what they achieved. That is passion. That is the spirit of challenge. That is the driving force that once gave white people global hegemony.However, you are handing over the hegemony your ancestors established to foreign powers in just one generation.
>>534631904Keep dodging the value question eh?
>>534631472>NetherlandsNothing in South Korea is even remotely close to ASML in terms of tech, so gives a fuck what it thinks. They’ll all die yanking their meat to K-pop
>>534624171(You)
>>534624379white people are underwater welders, linemen, wildfire firefighters, riggers, pipefitters, etc. Most of those jobs its normal to have six day work weeks and 12 hour shifts. 38c weather is normal are well depending where you are, below freezing weather. Do you have some stupid idea that white people are all in office jobs or something? The majority of blue collar work is done by white people. Maybe you dont see that on your curated Korean media. Koreans are such smug elitist faggots lmao I can't wait for your country to be raped by Nigerians because you think you know better. Or better yet since us white people are collapsing we can come over and let you ride the white horse
>>534631904>thinks it about eugenicsWeird misdirection, pathetic levels of gaslighting.Gook, it doesn’t matter what anyone says, you’ve got a chip on your shoulder. If we suddenly all at once turned into white gigs chads and conquered your “country” you’d still hate us. If we turned into hardcore isolationists and stoped the flow of money and military aid, you’d piss and bitch. >your ancestorsYours did fuck all. Get your house in order before looking at mine.
I don’t care. My country is not an economic zone, it is my home. Your presence drives up crime and thins the pool for my people. I don’t want you here. Fuck off.
ive been yelling this for yearsillegals just give you cheaper shit and the only wages they depress are jobs that involve backbreaking sun-beating heatstroke inducing labor. if you kick them out, you literally get less labor AND less circulation of money/consumptioncheap labor, they move money, you dont even have to educate them for years in your school system, they dont even commit as much crime as the native populace. nobody wants to admit that illegals are just an economic cheat code and you gotta handle em as such. dems act like they invite them in for humanitarian reasons, conservatives are retards who want more expensive produce, construction, and their population picking lettuce. neither side is honest, just fucking bring em in, keep them in california, cordon them off, and exploit them for their cheap labor, essentially letting them boost our economy without spreading their taco language
>>534632258if those immigrants were instead native births, statistically, the crime rate would actually be higher
>>534632375>neither side is honest, just fucking bring em in, keep them in california, cordon them off, and exploit them for their cheap labor, essentially letting them boost our economy without spreading their taco languageIf all 8 billion humans were to move into your country over the next year would life be better or worse?
>>534628684You openly admit that you never viewed Black people as equals yet you were the first one to hide behind them the moment you needed a shield against the truth kekAnd you talk about people from shitholes demanding a better life but you forget that those people are the only reason your streets aren't covered in trash and your stores aren't empty. If you White people were actually as superior as you claim you would be outperforming them instead of crying on an imageboard about how hard it is to be successful The fact is simple: you are the generation that inherited a palace and turned it into a nursing home because you are too entitled to work and too selfish to reproduce. Keep telling yourself you are a victim of success while the rest of the world watches you officially become the most pathetic and useless version of a White person in history lol
>>534631703>There is no fucking need to bring more of them inthere is when your former infinite supply of cheap labor has been capped and is being deported, dummythe alternative is a massive surge in prices in produce and construction costs
>>534623776>Mass deportations actually harms American workersI want deportations because I want fewer foreigners in my country. I couldn't care less if it caused workforce issues.
>>534623776ICE only shows up in Sanctuary cities. If everyone in Sanctuary cities are harmed economically by immigration enforcement, then this suggests that the US economy is structurally a system of exploitation which is subversive to the rule of law. We have a black market, not a free market. So this becomes a deep fundamental existential problem, not merely an economic problem. This is especially important because we live in a republic and republic is a form of government where the citizens govern for the citizens. If we wanted to be a monarchy, we'd be subjects. If we didn't understand the importance of citizenship, we'd not have the 14a--the thing you abuse in your subversive efforts to destroy the citizen, and the nation. And the sad thing is that none of these problems would even exist if we made a basic attempt to understand or follow the constitution rather than reading the retarded opinions of the subhumans in some foreign Zionist rag.
>>534632531Do you think it makes more sense to try and acquire more people who make 100/hr or 5/hr?Which one is more valuable?
>>534632468worse of course. did you think me advocating for cheap labor means i dont believe in carrying capacity? of course I believe a place can only accommodate so many people, we arent even close to that though. you are forgetting that the only reason we grow in population at all year over year right now is migration right? we are not at replacement birth rate as of 2 years ago. this is the opposite problem of "not enough room or resources". we are going to run out of people to provide work relative to how much we consume per person. this isnt globohomo conspiracy, its just real. unless you think americans are prepared to consume half as much, prices will become a very very big issue if this trend continues.
>>534631200All social security numbers are the property of the social security administration. You will never have a property right in any so-called ssn.
>>534623776i work at a farm in PA yes i did get a 10$ raise from 14$ an hour 2 years to 24$ over the 2 years.BUT i also work alot more especially basically mandatory over time I work as a farm tractor operator either im planting soil and seeds with the tractor or im picking up pallets and stocking them half is machinery work other is manpower.Lots of illegals 5 years ago this place is a mushroom/chicken/battery plant all in one huge place 3000+ out of those 3000 i think maybe 1200 were illegals and also being housed. Almost all gone i think theres alot with fake credentials aka dominicans pretending to be african americans or pretending to be puerto ricans.so basically Dominicans took over central and Mexican jobs but they are shit workers who complain and think they deserve the world.Also we have about 20 jeets im sure this is going to quadruple soon because theres already talks about H-2A visa.oh yeah btw out of the 3000k about half are whites. alot amish or menonites tho something like that
>>534632760depends largely on what need you are trying to solve. do you need people to keep prices where they are so the population doesnt riot, or do you need people to research and cure cancer? you usually need both if you're America. We like to innovate (requires smarty whites and asians) but we also like to consume and build (requires cheap labor in the form of browns)
>>534632780> that the only reason we grow in population at all year over year right now is migration rightMaybe that is the tell that you are at carrying capacity.
>>534624171>jews>facts and evidenceoh i am laffinalso kys shabbos goy
>>534632876Well no actually you don't need more 5/hr workers since that indicates you have a surplus of people doing it.
>>534632760a society comprised of only cancer researchers will die of starvation if your answer is "haha surely cancer researchers can grow food", yes but if they do that, now they arent researching cancer and congratz you've become a farmville country
>>534632977>a society comprised of only cancer researchers will die of starvationWhen everyone has a college degree, who will do the work?
>>534629712The truth is that you White people have become so soft and entitled that you wouldn't last a single hour in the conditions immigrants work in every day lolYou keep talking about how others despise illegals to feel a sense of belonging, but you are the only group so pathetic that you've lost the physical and mental strength to sustain your own society. Depending entirely on the labor of people you claim to look down upon while you rot in your own entitlement lol
>>534632876You are quite literally arguing for a command economy.
>>534627450www.google.com, stupid nigger.
>>534632887no its the tell that modern life is making people complacent, low test, anti social, and not wanting to have children, meanwhile we are sending a fuck ton of money that could give people safety nets to have children, over to israhell's war insteadnone of this has to do with a bunch of beaners in califnornia picking your lettuce so its cheap for you on the shelf
>>534633058Why won't you answer the value question?
>>534623776Lmao don't care, still deporting.
>>534633085How is value determined?
>>534623776Communists don't work.
>>534633085>a bunch of beaners in califnornia picking your lettuce so its cheap for you on the shelfOnly 2% of hispanics in California work agriculture jobs you idiot.60% of the state is hispanic now. Hispanics are doing everything. They're doing insurance, they're doing fire, they're doing accounting, they're doing government services. They are doing all the jobs. It's literally a mass population-replacement.A state that was 80% white, has become majority hispanic. Whites in California are soon to be outnumbered by Asians, and will be as small a minority as blacks are nationwide.
>>534631376>you’re weak if you don’t want to work for slave wagesKnowing your worth doesn’t make you weak
>>534625987OP is right. Under Biden, if someone passed e-verify but you still “discriminated” against them because they were obviously an illegal then the DoJ would sue you. Even though the illegals were stealing people’s identities (licenses, SSN, etc) and couldn’t speak any english. That being said, the employers also love illegals and very few would do this anyway.>”the best type of construction worker is the one without workman’s comp” (they’d flee back to mexico vs filling out paperwork that might lead to deportation)>t. relative worked at a big construction company and hated all the anti-american bs
>>534633060nope, nowhere did i command any part of the economy. its turning a blind eye to cheap labor while expressing a desire for/incentivizing skilled labor.where is the "command" here? >>534633027the browns we turn a blind eye to who provide cheap labor, that is literally what im advocating for. just cordon them off lightly to just california with legal jargon that doesnt explicitly mention them, itll be fine, place is huge, then you eventually do rounds of deportations. its like, basically what we've been doing for a long time with no major consequence and you've just gotten cheap shit. watch in amazement as you close off the country and deport them how fucking expensive stuff gets and how fast lol.
>>534630777The parents have to be legal citizens for the child to be a legal citizen, pedo-kun.
>>534629730It is hilarious that you are crying about illegal aliens taking all the cash paying jobs when you are the one who created those gaps in the first place. If you don't want them to find those jobs then why don't you White people go out and do the work yourselves? You created the void and someone has to fill it to keep the society running.What exactly is your solution? Do you want to just let everything collapse and fail because you are too entitled to do the labor? You are talking as if it is the immigrants fault for stepping in and doing the work that you White people are too lazy to do. In short, You brought this problem on yourselves by avoiding every difficult or low paying job yet you act like victims when others do what is necessary. Stop blaming the people who are actually keeping your country alive and realize that your own laziness is the only reason those gaps exist in the first place
>>534633203generally, what people are willing to pay for a good or service determines its value. supply and demand. i dont believe in some labor theory of value commie nonsense.
>>534633335Anchor-babies tho...
>>534632478>you hide behind blacksNever said that. Another lie.>they keep your streets cleanNot really. Another lie.>you’re crying about not being successful More gaslighting. Another lie.>you’re lazy and haven’t reproducedBoth lies. Anything else? Because up to this point, it’s just boring and predictable.
>>534633449The problem with capitalism is mostly not in the mechanics of it. But the principles.Like if everyone acted as perfect economic calculators, according to self interest, and made proper value-judgements, then capitalism works great. But human beings are not really like that. They are stupid, easily misled, tribalistic, there are huge information-gaps and IQ-gaps. Because of that, capitalism doesn't always produce the best outcomes. A better system seems to be one which works more akin to a tribalist system. Where things are fundamentally capitalist, but elite representatives of a community have oversight powers. If they see something going wrong, they can correct it. Like>holy shit, all our youth are doing galaxy gas, we need to stop this>holy shit this corporation is dumping radiation in the river, we need to stop thisCapitalism is powerful. It's like the explosion inside your engine. But unless you direct that energy in a proper way, you don't produce motion, only destruction.
>>534632375They also drive up demand for everythingThey also increase crime ratesThey also undercut actual American jobsThis culture of fucking the American worker is coming to an end. Go find another country to shit on.
>>534633247thats 2% of the LEGAL hispanic population you fucking moron. 75% of the state's agriculture labor is performed by ILLEGALS. and gee it sounds like the solution here is that whites need to both stop wanting tons of cheap shit that requires cheap labor and also start having children. lastly, half of whites thought slates of false electors were real and fell for jewish war nonsense and give themselves measles on mass (conservative whites) and the other half want to burn down cities for dindus and cut off boys dicks and wants men in womens bathrooms (dem whites). forgive me if replacement doesnt tug at my heartstrings the same way it did in 2004
>>534633434>In short, You brought this problem on yourselves by avoiding every difficult or low paying job yet you act like victims when others do what is necessaryDoes a farmer or an underwater saturation welder have a more difficult job?
>>534632375How is consumption beneficial? Sure being in poverty is bad, and consumption would help that person. No argument. But beyond a certain point, consumption is not helpful. What's the point of working 60 hours a week, and then consuming like a fat cow? Why not work 30 hours a week, and only consume what you need. Sure you're technically less wealthy, but you have more time in your day. That's value in itself.
>>534633735yes i agree with all of this. I simply consider a blind-eye light hand deportation approach to immigration as another form of said oversight. its what we've done for a while and we've remained the major top dog of the planet. premiere supreme super power of the world.
>>534633735The only way to determine the value of something is based on the inputs of all individuals. You know that right? Your example of having "superior" individuals determining the values of others FOR them is socialism.
>>534633089It is hilarious that you keep asking about value when it is so obvious that you White people have none left lol Value is determined by the market and right now your generation is effectively worthless. You wont do dirty work you wont do hard work and you wont do any work if it doesnt pay a fortune for zero effort. Even if a job pays well you lack the high level skills to actually do it.In short, If we were to put a price on a group that avoids every responsibility while whining on the internet the value would be exactly zero. Fortunately for the rest of the world your society is still running because immigrants are stepping in to do everything you White people are too lazy and entitled to handle. The fact that the world functions perfectly fine without your contribution is the ultimate proof that you are irrelevant lol
>>534633779the things they increase demand for, they are also supplying, namely food and living space (agriculture and construction) if you replaced every illegal with a native birth, your crime rate would literally be higher, the average immigrant does not commit more crime than the native born american"actual american jobs" like picking lettuce? i dont really want my son to aspire to pick lettuce in a field lmao
>>534633964any limit on capitalism is not automatically scary socialism. we dont let mergers go through sometimes, does that make us mao?
>>534633796LMAO are you retarded? None of them are legal. They all came here illegally and were "naturalized" as anchor babies. There isn't some huge pipeline of "legal hispanics" being granted citizenship, it's all illegals who came over and got naturalized. This is one of the most insane population replacements in world history. A land area the size of Germany, going from 80% white to 20% white, in just 30 years. The average person from California is no longer the cute beach blonde girl, but the 5'2" squat little spic with a low hairline. >stop wanting tons of cheap shit that requires cheap labor and also start having children. Ok the stuff is "cheap" because the corporations barely pay them a wage. But they are subsidized by the welfare state and all the associated services. So while the corporation doesn't pay much, the community as a whole definitely does. That doesn't benefit people, it's just a roundabout way of government subsidizing corporate profits.
>>534633089more importantly, why didnt you respond when I answered it here>>534633449
>>534623776>studies show chopping your foreskin off is a good thing!
>>534634064>You wont do dirty work you wont do hard work and you wont do any work if it doesnt pay a fortune for zero effort.>Even if a job pays well you lack the high level skills to actually do it.Which is it? White people are too lazy that they only work jobs that pay well?Or that white people lack the capacity to do high paid jobs?
>>534623776>Take that, chuds!I have had a job since I was 14 and a half. I just wanted less brown people here.
>>534634064>the ultimate proof that you are irrelevantSo irrelevant that you spend every day here on 4chan complaining about them?
>>534634064Lol this has to be a bot. Just repeating the same bullshit over and over again. >it is hilarious that>you White people
>>534623776>Jews kvetch at their government subsidized slaves being deported.Learn more from Shut it down news news at 24/7
>>534634146Socialism is quite literally having central planners determine the value of things for others and removing the individuals capacity for subjective value.
>>534630318KYS. You do know the average spiklet costs 5 times as much to put through K-12 and since their parents don't pay property tax. Who do you think picks up the tab?
>>534634189No reason to respond. You saying "generally" is retarded since it isn't generally. You accurately state that value is subjective determination based on what an individual is willing to do to acquire a good/service. You then almost immediately replies into a socialist agreeing with them LMFAO
>>534634147I dont believe anchor babies should be a thingalso they are absolutely not subsidized by the welfare state lmao, you barely get anything if you are illegal. even the scant existing state specific programs that supposedly "give stuff to illegals", are so specific that most illegals end up not even qualifying for those.
>>534634490...what exactly was your point? like, i btfo'd you on carrying capacity, then you had to retreat to some defining of value pop quiz (for some reason), and because I used the word generally despite being 99% aligned with your definition, you throw up your hands in victory? are you lobotomized? lmao can you use a trip so i can filter you
>>534634248Cute lol You seem to think you have found a logical contradiction, but the answer is both lol In short, You White people are too lazy to do the essential hard labor that keeps a society running yet you are also too incompetent to actually perform the high level technical jobs that you claim are yours by birthright.The current white generation is a parasitic group in society that expects six-figure salaries simply because they exist.If you were actually capable of doing the high paid jobs your society wouldn't be importing elite talent from Asia and if you weren't lazy you wouldn't be crying about immigrants in the fields. You are stuck in a pathetic middle ground where you are useless at both ends of the economic spectrum lol
>>534634382so once again, is denying a merger "socialism"? if so, your definitions are so wide they are ostensibly meaningless
>>534634638Medi-cal is an $800 billion slush fund which is literally designed to funnel money to illegal immigrants. Although ostensibly for medical care, there are all sorts of associated services that help people buy food, pay rent, get therapy services....etc. It's a massive slush fund. I signed up for medi-cal at one point. At NO POINT IN THE PROCESS was I asked for a social security number. All of the medi-cal forms were dual-printed in spanish, and came alongside voting forms in spanish. Aside from this, there's innumerable other scams they are running. They have ways of cheating the tax code.>work "under the table" and pay 0 taxes>claim $0 on their income tax and get a fat return despite working under the table>pretend to be divorced from the wife so she can get all the associated single-mother benefits>using their kids as "cash cows" securing them infinite benefits despite not having citizenship themselvesHow do you think it's POSSIBLE for 10 million illegal immigrants to live in the state with the highest cost of living in the world?
>>534634832I'm telling you you are at carrying capacity because people are no longer breeding. You claim that it makes more sense to continue to bring in as many workers as possible for jobs already paying $5/hr to illegals. There is no reason to bring more people in for said jobs since it is obviously already saturated.
>>534634859>you White people>you’re lazy>this generation uselessBlabla bullshit repeating its self with no actual point or argument
>>534633434If we actually did as you said and did the labor ourselves, the system would collapse. We should learn to live on lentils. We should not contribute to the system. We should grow them in our own gardens so that we can feed ourselves, not so that we can sell them for money. I have no resentment to the immigrant that comes here and props up the system, but I'm also not thankful that the immigrant is propping up the shit system. If I wanted to engineer a famine in the modern world, there are a lot of ways I could go about doing it. One of the ways would be to make a nation's food production reliant on foreign labor, and then to suddenly cut off that source of labor. So it's really not a good way to run a country. It's a lack of future planning, nigerlicious way to run a country. And when these niggers are eating each other's ass meat, I'm going to be content with my lentils as I sit atop my shining trash-hill overlooking my booby-trapped forest glen.
>>534623776>see goy, it’s actually worse if we don’t replace you
>>534634638>>534634969They just be handing people cash broThey just handing them cash, literally
>>534623776It's not 1989. These aren't seasonal Mexican farm workers whose paperwork isn't up to date.Literally none of the millions and millions of illegals who came across the border under Biden came here to work. Every single one of them came here in order to collect handouts and gibs. They came here because some jew NGO went to their shithole village and told them that the US and EU were so unbelievably rich that all they need to do is walk across the border and will immediately start receiving free housing and food and healthcare and money and cellphones and women and everything else without having to work or do anything to earn it. Trying to associate the current wave of illegals with jobs or working or wages is just a jew red herring to distract from the reality that they were all really brought here for the sole purpose of White Replacement.
>>534634859>too incompetent to actually perform the high level technical jobs that you claim are yours by birthrightBut I make $70/hr CAD from home... and have also done lower paid construction work LMFAO
>>534623776Literally nothing in that report logically follows
>>534634859What is funnier is that I get messages from Indians desperately asking me for access to the account I have to make my money...Which is strange since the entire thing is a purely merit based process in order to get in... they could easily make their own accounts and pass the interviews... but they don't! Weird...
>>534635307Job growth should actually probably crater since a vast majority of these people are doing things that offer no value to others...A job is a job is a job is a jobIs a fallacy. Demand ebbs and flows. And the job you do today. Has no guarantee of having any value tomorrow.
>>534623776>>534623776>>534623776>> HARMS THE FARMS HIRING LOW WAGE ILLEGALS >> HARMS THE BUSINESS MILLIONAIRES USING CHEAP LABOR ESPECIALLY IN THEIR RESTAURANTS SHUT THE FUCK UP RAJEET RETARD XD LARPING AS A WHITE AMERICA
>>534625696>And one last question Mr… ‘Ken Hayashi’, you attest that you are a San Francisco resident and are in the country legally?>>Housekeeping.>Mr. Hayashi?>>Si. I Clean.>legal resident?>>Si, si. Yo tengo documentos.>…APPROVED
>>534623776The law-abiding citizen having to suffer the price of fixing decades of corrupt policy is a part of the process, anon. It is not meant to be used as a selling pitch to continue keeping the corrupt practices in place just because they are more convenient to accept rather than fixing the problem.
>>534624145Kvetching about Onigger and Brandon won't make Trumpstein less of a pathetic liar.>>534627878Trumpstein said he'd deport them all like everyone wanted and he's not going to be anywhere close.
>>534624379I have hired only white people for my hard trades work and the job has gotten done right and respectfully. Fuck Mexicans.
>>534624379>Why do white people constantly call for the deportation of illegal immigrants when they themselves would never do the jobs illegal immigrants do?Because illegal immigrants shouldn't be doing those jobs either. We live in the richest, most technologically advanced country in human history, no one here should be working in inhumane, pseudo-slave like conditions to harvest crops.Anyone who says we need humans to pick fruit or whatever is a fucking moron who doesn't know what they are talking about. For literally every task currently being done by some illegal agricultural worker, there is already a machine on the market that can do the job just as well or better.The ONLY reason all of those jobs weren't completely automated years ago is because it was slightly more profitable to pay illegal serfs a few pennies an hour to break their backs in the sun.Farming and the economy relied on slavery, and that was a fucked up and morally corrupt system that persisted far too long because because the people profiting from slavery insisted that it was the only way to do it.And then we finally got rid of slavery and replaced it with sharecropping, and that was a fucked up and morally corrupt system that persisted far too long because because the people profiting from sharecropping insisted that it was the only way to do it.And then we finally got rid of sharecropping and replaced it with illegal mexican workers, and that was a fucked up and morally corrupt system that persisted far too long because because the people profiting from illegal mexicans insisted that it was the only way to do it.Now we finally have the opportunity to stop kicking the can down the road, and instead of continuing to exploit humans and making them do these shitty jobs, we can use technology to do what needs to be done.tl;dr - Anyone saying we need illegal migrants to do these jobs is making the exact same arguments as pro-slavery people made in the 1850s.
>>534635020Since you said I kept repeating myself, I looked up some statistics.But the situation is much more serious than I predicted.Listen up, Here is some reality for you. 70% of farmworkers in this country are immigrants. Half of the guys in the meatpacking plants are foreign born. These are the people literally butchering the meat you eat every day. About 50% of the entire workforce producing your food is made up of people you want gone.If they all vanish tomorrow your grocery bill does not just go up. It nukes itself. We are talking a 40% drop in milk production and a 37% hike in food prices.You want them out? Fine. Just get ready to pay $20 for a basic burger and spend your weekends picking potatoes in the mud. No real American is going to do that back-breaking labor for pennies In short, Stop being a LARPer and face the facts. No immigrants no food. Period.
>>534634859Here you go BTWhttps://www.dataannotation.tech/You and all your Indian friends are more than welcome to prove you have the superior knowledge. Should be easy for you, since you have such a high capacity for "knowledge"
>>534636191I’m not in America you retard. You need to tweak your AI bot, rapejeet.
>>534636413It doesn't matter. I posted this for all the Americans here to see. I don't even know where the Netherlands is located lol
>>5346237760/10, non whites aren't Americans.
>>534636191>gook too retarded to understand that wages go up when the supply of labour goes down, or that the other half are americans who do work for even those depressed wagesthe jobs would be filled pretty fast. i dont know, maybe you're actually a woman since i hear they're extra retarded in worst korea
>>534623776LOLSo many will need to be killed
>>534636510>netherlandsWhile I appreciate you not using your AI bot this time, it seems like you’re too uneducated to identify flags.
>>534636679Imagine thinking a burger flipper from Ohio can suddenly pick 40 pounds of berries an hour in 100 degree heat lmao Agriculture isnt a desk job where you just plug in a new warm body. It is highly seasonal skilled labor that requires speed and endurance you clearly do not have.Here is the reality. When labor supply drops by half, wages do not just rise enough to attract locals. The entire farm goes bankrupt first because the input cost exceeds the market price of the crop. Why do you think states like Georgia and Alabama saw their crops rot in the fields after passing harsh anti-immigrant laws? Americans tried the jobs for two days and quit because they are too soft for the heat.In short, The raw manual labor is 70% immigrant for a reason. If you want to pay $15 for a head of lettuce just to prove a point, go ahead lol
>>534637043Nice AI reply, shitjeet.In short, you’re a subhuman.
>>53463682270% of farmworkers are immigrants. Period. Without them, your precious American dinner is just an empty plate and a glass of salty tears lolGo ahead and deport them all. I can't wait to see your master race crying in the mud because you realized picking potatoes is harder than typing slurs on an imageboard kek
>>534623776sounds like the rich owners are just pissed they lost some cheap labor. They can up the pay to entice real americans, or they can fuck off. Its a m-a-r-k-e-t.
>>534623776There haven't been any mass deportations you fucking retard.
>>534637043I just wouldn't buy a lettuce, I'd buy something else that doesn't require as much manual labour, and the farms would adapt. Shit, I dont even buy lettuce in the first place, I buy cabbages and those are harvested with machines.
>>534637043>Imagine thinking a burger flipper from Ohio can suddenly pick 40 pounds of berries an hour in 100 degree heat lmaoI can imagine that because the person picking all those berries is working for $5/hr in comparison to the burger flipper. Since the $5/hr wage tells me there are more people willing and capable of doing the $5/hr wage. Do you understand the concept of supply and demand?
>>534637284They’re not, because I’m not in America, Mr. Shitjeet with an AI bot
>>534637223I wish everything I wrote were AI, too lol In the U.S., 70% of farms are staffed by immigrants, and 50% of the workforce in meat processing plants is made up of immigrants.This is a cruel reality. If you kick out immigrants, they will starve to death.You are forced to live with people you dislike forever lmao
>>534637284>you realized picking potatoes is harder than typing slurs on an imageboard kek>picking potatoesSo you don't actually even know how farms function....
>>534637487AGAIN, I'm sorry, but I'm not talking about the Netherlands.I keep writing comments for the Americans here to see.I don't know much about the Netherlands, sorry, but lol
>>534637497Everyone with more than 2 braincells can see that you’re just posting AI bullshit. You were constantly repeating yourself earlier, now you’re adding your own drivel as the first paragraph followed by your usual AI crap. Get a job, brown dicklet.
>>534637284You think illegal immigrants are out handpicking potatoes?You know I can buy a bag of 10lb potatoes for $1.99 right?
>>534637635>I don't know much about the NetherlandsThere really isn't much you do know about it seems...
>>534637677It is 1000% an Indian. They've been taking up this persona for atleast an entire year on this board. Prior to this, months ago. They were screaming and shitting their pants how white construction workers were lazy and overpaid meanwhile all of our new "Canadians" were harder working since they'd do construction work for less pay.
>>534623776>A study finds that U.S. employment falls in areas with more ICE arrestsahahaha, wow, really? lol
>>534623776OBVIOUSLY, immigrants take complementary jobs.
>>534632587Yeah this is what most people have been saying. I remember an article some time ago saying all these deportations would kill the housing market, to which everyone rightfully replied "good". If the market is this bad after being propped up by all these cheap illegal tactics and normal people STILL can't get their foot in the door, then it's for the best if it fell. And if deporting a few illegals is all it takes, well, when in Rome kek
>>534623776There's no "reduction in demand". The removal of foreign slave labor has led employers to reduce supply, but the demand is the same in most markets. They reduce supply because, as it turns out, when you're massively underpaying labour, and then that labour is removed, suddenly you can't afford to continue operating as you had before.This is a good thing. Any business that requires slave labor to remain profitable SHOULD be shut down. If you can't figure out how to make your business stay afloat while paying actual American wages, that's a YOU problem, not a problem to be burdening on society with foreign slaves.
>>534637677>"Today, nearly 70 percent of workers in the U.S. agricultural sector are foreign-born, and many of these workers are either visa holders or are undocumented."https://www.kansascityfed.org/research/economic-bulletin/some-segments-of-the-agricultural-economy-are-particularly-sensitive-to-changes-in-the-foreign-born-farm-labor-supply/>"Immigrants represent 33.1 percent of all workers in the meat processing industry. In certain sub-sectors, the dependence is even higher; for example, they make up 54.4 percent of all agricultural graders and sorters."https://ageconsearch.umn.edu/record/364790/files/JARE364790.pdfAGAIN, I HONESTLY WISH THIS WAS ALL THE NONSENSE I MADE UP AS AN AI LMAO!!!!It is REALLY pathetic that a country of 330 million people would literally starve to death without immigrants doing the actual work How do you have 300 million people and still let immigrants handle over half of the entire food supply????? It is because you are too soft. WHITE PEOPLE dont have kids to replace the aging workforce and you sure as hell dont want to work 12 hours under the sun for a living.While you are busy being a professional victim on an imageboard these people are the only reason you have a burger in your hand.
>>534637854Yeah, it reeks of poopjeet. There was another thread with this clown posting AI bot replies, then he started seething with a memeflag that his bot got reported and his posts deleted.
Good. That means they're starting to feel a squeeze from it. Accelerate. More deportations. Much more. Make it adapt or die
>>534638324>don't want to work under the hot sun for 12 hoursNo shit. Not for what they're paying, anyway. Pay me $70-80/hr and I'll pick your entire fucking field of strawberries.Americans aren't opposed to doing hard work. They're opposed to doing hard work for shit pay. Raise the wages and you'll see people lined up around the block to pick your apples or whatever the fuck you need slave labor for.
>>534637497>>534636255How is it that me. A stupid ol' whiboi is able to continuously work for 50/hr USD. In a knowledge profession that is quite literally the most meritocratic practice on earth (I never needed to know anyone, don't even know my coworkers) and yet the 1.5 billion Indians in India. Who by the way tell us all they are super studious and intelligent. Aren't able to crater my hourly rate?Don't you think if 1.5 billion tech "literate" Indians could do this job the wages would crash?
>>534637497A large portion of our agricultural output capacity is purposefully truncated to like 30% of output.With that said, you're using a type of suicidal logic that ultimately ruins everything on earth.You get so used to having lived with a terminal issue, that's eating you alive on the inside, that you refuse real solutions - all because you'd have to suffer some issues in transition.Yeah, turns out cleaning a wound out, sterilizing it, and finally letting it heal, is a painful process.>Problem in society causing societal aches>Solution requires temporary aches due to the pain already being caused>Can't solve problem 'cuz solution isn't painlessAt some point you have to just accept that large painful problems usually have painful solutions at least temporarily. We'll survive without immigrants though, don't you worry.
>>534638528IF THERE IS A GOD I HONESTLY WANT TO ASK HIM WHY THE HELL I HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE YOU WHITES FEEL THIS MISERABLEDOES THIS EVEN MAKE SENSE TO YOU? A NATION OF 340 MILLION PEOPLE AND IMMIGRANTS ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE. WHAT THE HELL ARE ALL 300 MILLION OF YOU DOING?YOU GUYS OPEN YOUR MOUTHS JUST TO BABBLE ABOUT "WHITE LAND" AND "WHITE SOCIETY" BUT THE COLD REALITY IS YOU CANT EVEN FEED YOURSELVES WITHOUT OUTSIDE HELP LMAOWHAT A PATHETIC AND MISERABLE REALITY THIS IS????
>>534629003other way around, entitled people demand to live near american whites
>>534638674Not a single south korean would spend all this time seething about whites, ranjeet.
>>534638674Who has more value? Me making 50/hr USD knowledge work (that is ENTIRELY AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO APPLIES)Or the person making 5/hr?
>>534638983Are you satisfied? 70% of farms are run by immigrants, and half of the meat processing industry is made up of immigrants. This is the reality revealed all thanks to you.I even loved white people so much that I refused to post the statistics link until the very end to preserve their last shred of pride. But since you kept insisting that I humiliate them, I had no choice but to show you the statistics I found to prove it was true.If you hadn't spammed me for repeating the same things, I wouldn't have looked up the statsThen the miserable reality of white people wouldn't have been exposed. Then white people wouldn't have become even more miserable.That's it. THIS IS THE ACTUAL STATE OF WHITE PEOPLE IN 2026
>>534623776>no name on the article lmao fake and gay
>>534634969they literally ask for a certificate that correlates with an SSN. >How do you think it's POSSIBLE for 10 million illegal immigrants to live in the state with the highest cost of living in the world?by living like shit and working like dogs, sharing a roof with 10 people
>>534638674>I HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE YOU WHITES FEEL THIS MISERABLE>SAAAR I BELIEVE MYSELF TO BE SO INFERIOR I MUST PUT DOWN OTHERS IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY MY EXISTENCE SAAARIndians are quite literally all the same LMFAO. Useless fucking retards who offer nothing of value to the world.
>>534635233cash aid requires a green card or proof of status, at its most extreme, i think if you've been here for 5 years they might consider you. its really not just this free money thing
>>534633905a healthy loop of supply and demand means money is circulating, circulation of money is beneficial to your economy. >Why not work 30 hours a week, and only consume what you needId agree personally, but most americans like to eat a lot and have subscriptions to 10 different services at once, both of which require cheap groceries
>>534639576>27 postsWhy are you so upset, Ranjeet? Can you repeat yourself again please? Start with “it is hilarious that….” like you did a dozen times here already.
>>534638666PURPOSEFULLY TRUNCATED TO 30%? WHAT KIND OF SCHIZO COPE IS THIS?????AGRICULTURE IS NOT A VIDEO GAME SLIDER YOU CAN JUST TURN UP. IT REQUIRES ACTUAL LABORERS IN THE DIRT WHICH YOUR "MASTER RACE" REFUSES TO DO.THIS ISNT A TEMPORARY ACHE. IF YOU DEPORT THE PEOPLE WHO PRODUCE 70 PERCENT OF YOUR CROPS THE FARMS GO BANKRUPT AND THE SOIL GOES TO WASTE BEFORE YOUR LAZY ASS EVEN GETS OFF THE COUCH."WE WILL SURVIVE" LOL HOW? BY EATING YOUR INSIGNIFICANT PRIDE??? YOU HAVE 340 MILLION PEOPLE AND NOT EVEN 1 PERCENT OF YOU ARE WILLING TO PICK A POTATO FOR A LIVING. STOP USING BRAINDEAD ANALOGIES TO HIDE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE PERSONALLY TOO WEAK TO SUSTAIN YOUR OWN CIVILIZATION. WITHOUT THE PEOPLE YOU HATE YOU WOULD BE FIGHTING OVER A CAN OF BEANS IN A WEEK.
>>534632375a little too fucking late to cordon them off, delusional idiot.
>>534639576>Then the miserable reality of white people wouldn't have been exposed.How am I miserable. I make 70/hr CAD. Are you a non-white? If non-whites are so capable. It should be easy for you to make the same as me and not be miserable. Is it as easy for you than it is for me?Non-white are supposedly superior... But non-whites also work for lower wages? How do you square that circle?
>>534630523Nope. You are wrong. Nice source faggot, but that changes nothing. I've known owners who lost their businesses due to it. You cite claims on the internet. How sad.
>>534640175>AGRICULTURE IS NOT A VIDEO GAME SLIDER YOU CAN JUST TURN UP. IT REQUIRES ACTUAL LABORERS IN THE DIRT WHICH YOUR "MASTER RACE" REFUSES TO DO.>SAAAAAR THEY ARE SO VALUABLE>THAT IS WHY THEY MAKE 5/HR BECAUSE THEY ARE SO VALUABLEBrowns are literal buck broken slaves LMFAO
>>534640175>PICK A POTATO FOR A LIVINGAgain you don't actually know how farms work LMFAO. Nor do you understand supply and demand.
>>534640175>>534639909>>534639693get a fucking room you faggots
>>534625520>Muh machinesNot at all, for most of these jobs there's no machines that can do a human equivalent.The actual problem here is these businesses being built where there's no workers and terrible working conditions. They'll buy the cheapest land possible out in the middle of nowhere and say>I need 1,000 illegal workers to do the work!And they do, they need rootless people because nobody lives where they just bought this land. They skipped that step and planned on bussing in illegals.>Muh machinesNot an argument, actually learn what you're talking about. Their business model purposefully was to buy land out in the middle of nowhere and then grow a labor-intensive crop they could bus in workers for.
>>534640175>IT REQUIRES ACTUAL LABORERS!Then why did they build their farms in the middle of nowhere and then rely on bussing in illegals? They bought the land and built it there. If it requires actual laborers why build where there's none and then rely on some immigration loopholes?
>>534638517I was really surprised by one thing when I came to /pol/. Why do whites always leave labor costs out of the equation? Even though it’s a political board there’s basically no one here who understands economics. It’s not even about complicated knowledge things like supply and demand labor costs and inflation are concepts even middle school students can understand at a glance yet people here still don’t get them.Politics and economics are basically inseparable so how can there be such ignorance about economics? It honestly makes me think is this all just about making memes that mock politicians? That’s it?Right now you’re the same way too. Pay you 70 or 80 dollars an hour? Are you actually serious? Have you even thought about the price of food after that? The only reason you can genuinely buy a burger at today’s prices is because of the low-cost labor you call slaveryIf farm wages jump to 80 bucks an hour your grocery bill triples instantly. You will be paying 30 dollars for a box of strawberries and 50 dollars for a steak. The your system runs on cheap immigrant labor because without it the entire American lifestyle collapses into hyperinflation.In short, You are not pro-worker you are just mathematically illiterate. No immigrants no affordable food.
>>534641382>You will be paying 30 dollars for a box of strawberries and 50 dollars for a steak.Then lets see this put into proof. Don't think we have any historical data on this every coming to fruition. Lets see it happen!Otherwise you are simply divining a reality for yourself.
>>534641382>You are not pro-workerYou are pro-worker though. Arguing that it should be normal to import as many people as possible for jobs that are already making 5/hr under the table...That is what it means to be pro-worker....LMFAO>There is already a surplus of people available to work these jobs.... >I KNOW. WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO WORK THESE JOBSCan you address how me a wyteboi is able to make 70/hr CAD?
>>534641382Gunna run away from your little thread faggot? Make another one tomorrow? Do the same thing all over again?
Go home, we don't need you
>>534623776All the more reason for mass deportations.
>job growth has slowedBecause we keep printing money to prop up corporations and as a result we're in a recession headed towards a full depression>despite deporting immigrants Not nearly enough to be impactful. I want at least 20 million people deported. All visa workers. All foreign students. All the naturalized children of immigrants. I want them all gone, legal or illegal I don't fucking care.
>>534634969>medi-calGoing from actual doctors via Blue Cross under my parents, to the strip mall Molina/LabCorp musical chairs Medi-Cal graciously provides was the most suicide-inducing experience ever when trying to deal with a partial prolapse as an adult, don't eat Flamin' Hot Cheetos if you're unknowingly on the verge of constipation kids! It took most of the year to deal with it, and 75% of this involved Jeets playing with my ass trying to diagnose and figure out what to do after misdiagnosing it as TTS, a hernia, and syphilis. In the end (teehee) I needed to sit/sleep in a very specific position on a specifically reclined couch while briskly-walking daily to get things back in place, something I probably would've figured out on my own if I didn't have any plan at allThis obviously wasn't an ER situation, but I'm just thinking of how citizens in peril CAN'T pull that one weird ER trick where you bust in the ambulance door screaming AYUDA AYUDA RAPIDO and the state legally can't refuse, ID, or charge you
>>534625911>>534625987>>534628061>Bro, we NEED niggers here to pick our cotton!>Even though the cotton picker was something feasible in primitive form in the late 19th century.Literally the same reasons as today: niggers were cheaper than research and production of machines.>>534636131Immaculate post
>>534644103>a partial prolapsekek this nigga was gettin FUCKED. this nigga was gettin BENT OVER lmao
>>534623776Absurd, correlation not causation. In isolation if there are more workers going for the same number of jobs then wages go down. Fewer workers chasing jobs, wages go up. But the demand curve for labor can also move, which is obviously happening and to a greater extent than the reduction in illegals. So it's actually patently ridiculous to conclude that a drop in demand for this kind of labor has anything to do with immigration enforcement. WSJ is just a leftist shill rag at this point. >t. an economist
>>534644836Make no mistake, anal rules, but the shits I was trying to pass were giant and rocklike, and I sprayed some sort of white not-cum liquid out of my dick during the push that stuck my O-ring out to the left, giving me a massive internal hemmeroid for the road. Suppository Prep-H (MAXIMUM STRENGTH) is the worst sensation in the world, with sitting on a neck massager for an hour being the one thing that "mixed it up" entirely
>>534624171Your shitty, transparent propaganda isnt fact and evidence.
>>534627212Its on you to prove him wrong faggot.
>>534627137You deseperately trying tp convince them they need you is telling. You say whites are lazy act yet westoids have the highest living standards - and had so before immigration.And yet you supposed hard workers live in misery and squalor.
>>534627212Its Whites that pay for the wellfare of others.
>>534644889Eh, a sudden plummet in low wage worker availability will spike labor costs and choke productivity of low margin businesses dependent upon them. This then sends shocks to their suppliers (often also employing low skilled workers) as well as their customers, who are facing higher costs across the board currently. In an economically healthy situation, the system could recover and adapt through shedding non-robust businesses which cannot reform towards higher wages or increased capital but the current price shocks from the whole Iran thing have kinda fucked that possibility.t. econfag
>>534624379People will pick up bum shit for enough money. See picrel>Could you live with the cost of living being 2 ~ 3 times higher than it is now?A ridiculous number that you pulled out of your ass. This is a strawman. You're completely ignoring the elasticity of supply and demand for both labor and the products of that labor. Economic analysis is a bit more complicated than your simplistic attempt at a gotcha. There is no guarantee that prices would even go up for certain things like say fruits and vegetable. The supply chain is already charging the maximum that it can at every step. Retailers aren't leaving money on the table. If they hike prices any higher they will lose sales volume. Same thing for the distributors. Farmers might take a haircut but they are welfare queens who get more subsidies than actual welfare queens. Same thing for construction. They should already be charging as much as they can. But demand for builders is more inelastic than for random produce, so that could see some price hikes as some people might be willing to pay more than they currently are. It would take legitimate economic studies to figure these things out from the available data. On a basic level though, it's absolutely true that fewer workers = higher wages for a given industry and level of experience. And vice versa where more workers competing for the same jobs = downwards pressure on wages. So you're here promoting profits for corporations and businesses at the expense of US Citizens. Let's not forget that illegals also drive up demand for big ticket spending categories like housing, healthcare and education. So again, the the main beneficiaries of illegal labor are those who hire illegals and those who sell them goods. While consumers do not necessarily get lower prices out of this because one of the fundamental truths of economics is sellers will always charge the highest price that they can to maximize total revenue. And that's already happening.
>>534623776It’s too late to do anything about it, the American Ponzi scheme is exactly as Marx described, employers need to extract as much as possible from employees. Rising wages and financialization of America (moving way from industry) means there’s a bottom class of jobs designated for illegal or extremely poor workers and the grind is to get away from those jobs into higher paying sectors. Who won? The plantation owners won the civil war in the end! You’ll have a class of slave workers on temporary visas until you either run out of Africans and Guatemalans to import or somehow automate it all in mass soon. But the opportunities to get into better jobs is collapsing as well.America’s economic setup is among the worst in the world. America is the first world version of India
>>534645755Wrong picrel.I wonder how much San Fran pays the poop squad these days. That article is from 2018 so it should be well over $200k by now after all of the inflation.
>>534633861Bullshit. Those low wage jobs used to go to teenagers, but they were replaced by illegals.
>>534645738>low margin businessesBusinesses that can't compete paying market wages without illegal scab labor shouldn't exist. I'd even say the same for entire industries. Like if we can't profitably grow certain consumer crops (muh strawberries) in the US well then fuck it. Those farmers can grow what's actually profitable and we can import the fruits and vegetable. Farmers, being the quintessential example of a low margin business that relies on illegal labor STILL don't have an excuse to not go through proper channels. We have the H-2 temp agricultural visa program just for that. So I could make an exception for agriculture and agriculture only, but they migrants need to be on a visa and go back once the season is over.It's not just about wages either. People do not want to see their country treated as an economic opportunity zone for the third world. We have proper channels for legal immigration. Floods of illegals every time a Democrat is in office is unacceptable from a citizen's QOL perspective even if we were to ignore the economic effects. But overall economically, it's simply undeniable that more people = lower wages and higher costs for housing, healthcare and education. I simply don't care about noncompetitive businesses. Corporations (including small and medium) already pay lower taxes than a middle class worker and get all kinds of preferential treatment from legislators. So there is really no excuse for promoting corporate interests over those of individuals when businesses have every advantage in the US economy.. I know it's different in the EU with strict labor regulation, so no comment on your situation.
