https://kfoxtv.com/news/local/us-will-start-revoking-passports-for-thousands-of-parents-who-owe-child-support-ap-learns-05-07-2026>The revocation program, plans for which were first reported by the AP in February, soon will be greatly expanded to cover parents who owe more than $2,500 in unpaid child support — the threshold set by a little-enforced 1996 law, the State Department said.Divorced fathers who owe child support will now be banned from leaving the country
Pay your child support nigger. A good dad supports their kids Here is reddit having a melty over it https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1t6ltat/us_will_start_revoking_passports_for_thousands_of/
>>53463924>melty All the top comments are in support of it retard
>>534639246>continue supporting your whore wife after divorce-raping you and taking the kidsYou can't have something like this while no-fault divorce exists.
>>534639104More simping from the US government.Slaves must stay on the plantation.
>>534639361You are a nigger deadbeat dad who is looking for ways to avoid supporting your kids.
>>534639104Whatever gets them out.
I feel they will outlaw debt bombing next
>>534639246>women can decide whether it lives or dies>solely>men have zero equivalent right there at all>women can then force a man to pay for children he didn't want and may not have even knowingly put in herI agree that fathers should support their kids but this system is completely fucked up and entirely lopsided
>>534639104How many broke ass deadbeat nigger babydaddies even leave the 'hood let alone have a passport?
>>534639104complete betrayalfuck Trump
>>534639104>GOY BETTER HAVE MY MONEY WHEN I COME TO COLLECT PAY UP PAY UP PAY UP>I PUT A JEW IN YOUR GOV
>>534639104>Why don't our citizens want to have more children?Lol. Lmao.Gee really is a mystery why guys don't wanna get married, women are unhappy and useless, and no one is having kids.Remember to say thank you to your faggot tech overlords and government
>>534639246good mothers stay with the father of their childrenno fault divorce should mean no child support or alimonyYou are why young men won't marry
>>534639104Imagine crying about not paying for your kids to eat and live.Faggot.
>um it's different for a man to be a whore because le lock and key >okay mr. master key now support the children you've fathered>NO THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR JUST KILL THE BABY JUST FUCKING KILL IT Don't have sex with women you're not intending to spend the rest of your life with.
>>534639104these are great for news
>>534639416You are a sniveling kike. You know damn well this won't affect niggers in the slightest and will only affect hardworking white men while women continue to abuse the system. Kill yourself.
>>534639104Oh and also shout out you linking an El paso news source OP.Grew up there. It has it's ups and downs but I miss it so much. People there are genuine and real. Women there were pretty. The mountains were beautiful. The weather was lovely. The mexican food was incredible.It's a strange city. It also isn't the same place I grew up in by the time I left. It exploded growth.
>>534639791>>534639819if he's in on the whole "yes we're having a baby" thing that's one thingbut with the way the rights are, he can want it, and she can still kill ithe has no sayif she can kill it without his consent it's fucked to then demand he support it if she had it without his consent
>>534639104I see no issues with this
>>534639104The gov never wants to pay for some nigger’s kids.
troonald cumdump is working hard for his jewish masters today
>>534639246You are a nigger.
>>534639246lmao, redditors are literally admitting niggers are deadbeat dads but come up with all sorts of mental gymnastics about how it's not their fault
>>534639522>woman has control over her body>you have control over yoursit is pretty simple retard, don't put your penis inside a woman if you don't want to have kids with her
>>534639104If we care about kids so much, why don't we end no-fault divorce so foids can't destroy their families so easily, and introduce tighter restrictions and monitoring of child-support spending? Oh we're not actually interested in any of that? This is just another middle finger to working class men? Got it.And they wonder why men are dropping out of society in droves.
>>534640421>it is pretty simple retard, don't put your penis inside a woman if you don't want to have kids with herpersonally I can't disagree with that but "don't take a fucking dick inside you if you can get nutted in and have kids" is exactly as fucking valid, shitlord
>>534640521If the woman decides to keep the child she will be the one raising it you lazy nigger, bringing up human life is the far greater burden than just paying your share of money. But a selfish moid would never consider this, for him money is more important than even family.
>>534639416You are being an overt niggerkike mask likely worn by a jeet. Just sayin...
The state is always going to hammer you for child support regardless of whether you married the roastie or just knocked her up.Has nothing to do with divorce rape itself, although they often go hand in hand.
>>534640784>selfishall women want is to get attention from others for being “poor little single moms” and obviously all the fucking gibs that come with it women are not capable of love for others, their own children included
Holy shit, imagine getting a foid pregnant in this age; it's a death sentence.
>>534639246Reddit says DON'T jump off a bridge, too. It's racist to jump off bridges.
>>534640875The physical trauma that childbirth does and 20+ years of labor and cost towards your child is not worth a little "attention" pablo.i am sorry your mother did not love you, it isn't my fault.
>>534639104
>>534639104they already do this>>534639246arrears can be retroactively assigned in the thousands, well above the 2500$ threshold. just because someone was handed a surprise 5000$ debt doesn't make them a deadbeat, roastkike
>>534639416niggers are judgment proof. rich people dont care. this only affects middle class white men
>>534641073>traumalul>laborLULyour entire existence is subsidized off men’s labor
>>534639791*not paying your ex her beer and cigarette moneyftfy roastkike. this money never goes to the kids. states and feds need to start auditing women
>>534641184Ironic thing to say when you are only literally physically brought into existance through the labor of a woman
>>534639104I kept telling people to leave before they start restricting who is allowed to. First they’ll stop divorced dads. Then they’ll revoke the passports of student debt holders. Then it’ll be people who have outstanding tickets or fees… and then once it’s normalized, they’ll move on to the real clampdowns. Passport revoked if facebook doesn’t record you as having a GF. Tinder’s anti-incel GOV report didn’t show you having more than 5 hookups tbis year. Passport revoked.You ready for communism? You retards begged for it. Here it is. Get out while you still can.
>>534640384How does racism cause black men to not pay their child support?
>>534640784>If the woman decides to keep the child>>If the woman>decides >to keep the childnot really sure how to impress the actual point on you but you're most likely another self identified sharty discord tier "troll" anyway, so I don't think it would be possible to impress the actual point on you, since the entire routine is keeping the exchange going perpetually til you can find some idiotic "win" position that doesn't exist anywhere but your own head anyway, so
>>534641283all of that was the product of animal instinctsyou are literally of the same worth as any female pig or cow or whatever, you’re a breeding sow and should be treated as such keep your mouth shut, you animal
>>534639522bro youre not thinking this through. women have the right to murder, murder is a crime. men who have sex with women they dont want babies with are engaging in surrogate activities. the crisis is that the birthing skank gets to kidnap the mans children then enslave him whenever she wants to, and the real problem isnt the bitches who do it, but the bitches who threaten it for decades while the man says yes mlady. it is those men who deny the harm done by feminism and will do anything their bitch tell them
>>534639361Why did you marry or fuck a whore, retard?
>>534639104>Lets further discourage marriage!
>>534641475That's the average woman
>>534641392it exists with you running out of things to say like you just didpay up nigger>>534641444>brownoid ragekek your mother really did a number on youwhat is it about spic mothers hating their kids anon?
>>534639104Any man getting married in 2026 in the US is a fucking dumbass. There is no positives to marriage in 2026. You can't name one.
idk if mexicans can hop the border north then child support dodgers could probably do the same south
>>534639104>https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1t6ltat/us_will_start_revoking_passports_for_thousands_of/How can they take someones only form of identification?
>>534641582>making scenarios up in your mindlol women are just like shitskins, all you need to do is interact with them enough to come to hate them
>>534641719True, but like all laws, it is meant to target whites.
>>534641767you said from your point of view>>534640875>women are not capable of love for others, their own children includedMeaning your own mom could not stand youor was she not a woman? That would also explain things.
Tell me more about this first world democracy
>>534639104>fewer niggers traveling abroadBest news I'll hear today. Wonderful.
>>534641972Actually passports can be used to vote here.
>>534641475>Why did you marry or fuck a whoreyeah you can marry a woman who knows about the Bible and prays a lot and do your couples devotional with her, it doesnt mean anything when she watches netflix> so ban her from cell phones and take her innawoodsok and that in itself is abuse that you get your kids took away for
>>534641764same as andrew take taking passports from sluts who came to be his indentured servants
>>534641508I really can't imagine how any man is persuaded to marry these days. It literally does not benefit them one bit and comes with a mountain of risks that only affect them. It's a one-sided contract where the only way out involves the woman taking half your shit, and she can just decide to end it if she's bored. Oh and if you were dumb enough to have a kid with her, she can just take them away from you and then permanently tax you for them as well. Meanwhile what does the man get in this agreement? At best, literally nothing changes. You spent thousands of dollars for her to still basically just be your girlfriend. More than likely she'll stop keeping up her appearance, get bored, and decide she "deserves someone better." How the fuck do you advertise this to young men today?
>>534639104You need to smash the matriarchy, Bubba!
>>534640462>And they wonder why men are dropping out of society in droves.They look fine. I won't believe it until I see it.
>>534639104Start getting acquainted with your cities underworld, make connections with people who can help fake deaths or get you fake documents/passports.
>>534642519True
>>534639104Most deadbeat dads don't have passports though. Who is this aimed at?
>>534639104Thankfully I have no kids
>>534642497>How the fuck do you advertise this to young men today?basically, the life of a pastor is to keep the wife happy by presenting marriage to the congregation as the most positive thing, that should only be broken up in cases of abuse. which, of course, is left to netflix and psychoTheRapist and the divorce judge to decide
>>534641582>running out of things to say like you just didone can only help retards but so much, there's a certain point where they'll not get the "point" regardless how it's put, and the effort to do so is much more worthwhile spent mocking them for their seeming intentional inability to "get it" when it's so very simple a child could, if they're cunts about it
>agree to share everything with someone for the rest of eternity>erm but.... what if i don't like them anymoreMarriage is not transactional, a divorce is not fucking "cashing out" modern society is so fucking jewish all men need to have their heads slammed against concrete until this kike mania is out of their system. You gain a wife when you get married, nothing more. You gain eternal obligation and their love is the only reward that you need. If you are the smallest bit uncertain you can keep their love for all eternity you should not marry them, and that has ALWAYS been true.
>>534639104Don't care. If you cum in a retarded money grubbing whore, it's not the government's job to pay for your mistake.
>>534639819traducsk will never end feminims, they are the main supporters of feminism.
>>534639104The draft is coming!!!!I voted for this btw, can't wait until zoomers are sent to die, LOL
>>534641354>Passport revoked if facebook doesn’t record you as having a GF.
>>534643066child support has nothing to do with marriage whatsoever, it gets issued for "that chick I fucked at the bar and never spoke to again" frequentlyel simpador
>>534642815Trump cracked down on this. ICE in cities will make sure you cannot jump the Trump wall!!I VOTED for ICE to use biometrics in cities. You lost zoomer and millennial TRANNIES. I hate you guys, I hope you suffer and die while my generation has sex.
>>534643159I meant to reply to >>534642497but no anon, it gets issued to YOUR FUCKING CHILDRENlazy nigger
>>534639104ZOGGED.COM
>>534643108LAUGH OUT LOUD!!!!
>>534643287>but no anon, it gets issued to YOUR FUCKING CHILDRENno it doesn't, not their names on the checksit's the mother'sshe's SUPPOSED to spend it on the children's welfare and needs but the processes to prove she isn't are extensive and laborious and ultimately judge as lopsidedly as the "she can choose if it lives or dies without your consent" bit you have so much trouble not "getting"
>>534643159Don't fuck dumb whores without a rubber. It's not that hard.
>>534643424If you can prove she isn't providing then you get the kids and she owes you child support.Plenty of women will be losing their passports here too
>>534639416>>534639246ask me how i know you are over 300 pounds
>>534643537>If you can prove she isn't providing then you get the kids and she owes you child support.there needs to be massive mile high neon capital letters there flashing bright enough to rival the sun around "IF"might as well just set the money you'd have to pay the lawyer and the PIs on fucking fire if you live anywhere remotely "blue"
>>534643537you have to be 18 to post here you fucking retarded child
>>534639522it's pretty easy to not have sex with someone you don't plan on having kids with
>>534639104Good. Don't let criminals evade their poor choices. Get fucked, you failures.
reminderthey will gloat from the roof tops that they control access to sexual reproductionAND THEN CALL FOR THISTOTAL REMOVAL OF RIGHTS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>534643650>that's what SHE said
>>534643287>he thinks women spend child support money on the children and not that new pair of shoes she's been wantinglmaoYou're either a kike or underage b& too young to know how the world actually works. Either way fuck off.
>534643637Happened with my aunt, happens literally all the time, P.I.s are very cheap and it takes one picture through the windows of these crackhead's homes to see they are not spending their money on their children.
>>534639104I'm not sure why this is news. Usually they've just put a block to renew or get a replacement passport, which is just a passive revocation. If they're actively pursuing people it means the passive efforts didn't work. The states have an incentive to chase genuine deadbeats because of federal laws giving states money if they recover 80% of outstanding child support in their state. I think it's called title-d or something.
>>534643785>>534643637My aunt lived in seattle btw, if that counts as "remotely blue"
>>534643785and all of that means fuck all when the judge is a jewish woman in practically any state but literally any judge in a blue onesince judges decide ithave you even had sex? did your balls even drop yet?
>>534643155Lol this came out around the time many businesses were asking for people's social medias so they could look through them, and trying to claim it was a red flag for rejection if someone refused or didn't have social media. It truly is a mystery why people "do not want to work".
>>534643894>but what it we imagined i was right huhi am sorry you guys have such negative interactions with women, it makes me wonder why you are so mad you can't marry them, they'd likely be the kind of women to poison you if divorce was not avalible to them, if you were right.
>>534644055I can't tell who you're even talking to now cause it's like it's flipped to this entirely different conversation with some strawman in your headlike the miggers do where everyone is a tranny and you'll say something like "well what about his jewish grandkids" and they'll puke up some elaborate greentext about tranny penis and reply to that instead of whatever you said
>>534643512And always immediately tie your rubber off and shove it in a can or bottle you hang onto and don't dispose of where she can get to it, so you don't find out one of the hard ways if she's a crazy bitch who will use it to impregnate herself with.>"Anon, why are putting it in there?!">Oh, it's just cleaner and more courteous to do this! :)If she tries pushing the issue beyond that, you may be in for a bad time if you continue risking your dick inside of her.
>>534644174you are literally doing that with this posti am just trying to figure out what you actually want, women are all terrible people who even hate their own children, but you bitch and wail about marriage laws not favoring you more so you can get these bitter whore snakes in your life... for some reason.
>>534643840>Why is anti-male apartheid news?
>>534639104Forcing people to be parents always ends bad
>>534644312>i am just trying to figure out what you actually wantnigger is this grindr, you didn't understand a very simple point about the difference between the rights of men and women regarding parentage in the US and decided you wanted (You)s, I am giving you (You)s, are you not entertained?
>>534639416I swear to Jesus I hate simps more than I'll ever hate women
>>534644490they really are so much of the problem it makes you consider if jews are right about the average goyim
>>534639104Good. Bunch of deadbeat dads. Those people are trash.
>>534644459>i am just clinging to your every post *gluk gluk gluk*nigger why would you reply with THAT kekaroo
>>534643649It’s rare but it does happen, know a guy who did it by calling the cops on his ex wife who was drunk to come pick up his kid. DUI and child endangerment is not looked kindly upon by any court
>>534644583idk, whomst are you quoting there, I ctrl+f'd it and that gay ass shit only shows up in your post thereweirdwhat could it mean
the worldmay never know
>>534639361why not?You get the benefit of not having to become a full time single father.
>>534644652>no usorry faggot but that was just embarassing why did you do thatkeep feeding me (you)s, there's a good boy LMAO
>>534639348>This is how they do it. Its not like they start with nuns. They start with taking the rights at the margin with the least upstanding and then chipping their way to the center. Once you pluck the lowest hanging fruit the next lowest hanging fruit becomes the new lowest hanging fruit.>Deadbeat dads suffer from the horrible crime of being poor, horny, and shortsighted. Call me crazy but I dont think stripping their passports away is going to solve any of those problems.>It will however make it easier to take away other folks pasports later.A fucking faggot on reddit sees more than the average pol user nowdays.Shame.
>>534639478Its going to stop them from getting out and no its not about revoking citizenship of naturalized citizens. Its passports for US citizens.
>>534639104Is this tied to the voter ID shit they're trying to push through? Lmao.
>>534639104kek. lmao. They voted for this. Hopefully they start with the MIGA mutt sex pests who created niggermutt spawn around the world.
>>534644767>>534644174>I can't tell who you're even talking to now cause it's like it's flipped to this entirely different conversation with some strawman in your head>like the miggers do where everyone is a tranny and you'll say something like "well what about his jewish grandkids" and they'll puke up some elaborate greentext about tranny penis and reply to that instead of whatever you saidthere he go again, he's having this entirely different conversation with someone else not visibly present anywheresad
>>534639416Hopefully your wife gives you an STD and takes your kids to another state and her new boyfriend beats them in the house that you pay for.
>>534644929Also this. I am lmaoing so hard. Do it blumpf.
>>534644771The ol slippery slope argument eh? "If we start punishing bad people then good people will be punished". Bruh, get a job.
>>534644055He's kind of not wrong. Even judge judy said she entered into the family court system, because it was full of activist judges and judges with an agenda, who very frequently did not do what was best for the child and often rewarded unfit women because of their personal feminist beliefs. She said it's an incredibly boring area of law, so she understood why many great legal minds weren't entering into it, but she also said it's important because it directly impacts the family, and the family is the lifeblood of a nation. This is why leftists went from loving her as a girlboss, no-nonsense judge, to hating her or ignoring her. She has spoken up about this problem many times and people just ignore her, because it confirms what "chuds" say.
>>534644894>just parroting nowI fucking broke you over my knee holy shitget over it nigger pay your dues
>>534641175If they're middle class, then they can afford the child support. If they didn't want the possibility of paying it, then they shouldn't have made any kids. Or you should've made them through an egg donor and surrogate. You don't want to pay child support. You don't want to pay for someone to make you the baby. So what is it that you want?To make kids you'll later end up abandoning, if the marriage ends?
>>534644771In some ways the updoot system and aggressive moderation forces you to be more articulate, to be fair.
>>534639915Hard working white men pay their child support so what's the problem?
>>534645019?what does this even meanthat's what I mean about the "talking to somebody else", you're just having this entire side conversation with someone not in the thread and replying to them like they're me
>>534644999>but what about judge judylmaomen get fucked over by shit judges sometimes, it can be proven and appealed and does not mean they should all be requitted from their obligations to their family.
Republicans are trying to front run brain drain emigration lmao, because they know they're turning this country into a shithole failed state.
>>534639246>>534639104while i may be wrong here i got the impression that people actually do not generally benefit anymore from being citizens of the usa: you have to pay taxes to it even if in another country, it is no longer very prestigious and generally speaking you do not need the passport if you are not coming back.isn't this new law good for people who do not intend on coming back to america?i mean if your wife divorced raped you and you are now in say macedonia - it makes sense to want to be able to force stop paying taxes to the usa governemtn and to your ex.
>>534641444Childbirth, child raising. Animal instinct. Should be done for free. Strength. Using that strength to do things. An abuse of men, and subsidizes women's existence!!!Biased Chud.
>>534644490Its all about 70% their fault, you are absolutely right.
>>534641354>the real clampdowns. Passport revoked if facebook doesn’t record you as having a GF. Tinder’s anti-incel GOV report didn’t show you having more than 5 hookups tbis year. Passport revoked.Go post on plebbit, you hyperbolic faggot.
>>534644775Trump is trying to create an Iron Curtain with American characteristics to keep citizens from fucking off. A Gokden Curtain if you will.
>>534645214so, women should be able to kill a child if the father wants it to live, and then should also be able to force a father who didn't agree to the child being had to pay for its existence, while she still has full parental custody and shit (most often)that's what you're sayingat least in our own exchange
>>534644378These laws were passed decades ago when feminism was still ascendant in the US. While they are noteworthy, this is nothing new. Red states generally have fair laws now on the whole, while blue states will rape you. Places like florida have spent the last 10 years getting rid of ridiculous things like permanent alimony and offering 50/50 custody as the standard. They also won't try to jail you for non-payment, except in extreme cases of contempt. California is on the other end of the spectrum, seeking millions from wealthy fathers and taking away their equal right to parent, giving the mother 80% or more of custody. The passport revocation is just a passive measure to get fathers to pay arrears, not to pay current support. It's a measure to capture people who cheat the system and work under the table or have foreign businesses. It's the least important part of child support, because if you're unemployed or behind, you have recourse within the state system to correct it first(assuming you aren't assraped by a feminist judge in a shithole). A passport revocation comes years after the fact.
>>534639104Passports have to be the stupidest thing invented by modern states. Why should an individual and another state be bound by the feelings of an unrelated state? Why should the US get to decide what interactions individuals choose to have with other consenting nations?>b-but you need it to verify identities to keep everyone safe!!!States give spies fake documents as a routine matter.>b-but it helps with controlling immigration!!!Look around you, no it doesn't.
>>534644771>Call me crazy but I dont think stripping their passports away is going to solve any of those problems.They're preventing them from fleeing the country, to avoid paying child support.
>>534645399If she kills it the father pays no child support, how is that relevant?
>>534645462If I were a state, I would simply make it so that people would rather not flee.
>>534645462They're frog boiling to keep Americans in.
>>534645459These are extremely vile and antisemitic things to say. I actually agree with you though. The dumbest part of the whole process is the stamping the booklet. Like what the fuck? Why? It's all digital anyway in the big 2026. You gonna get dirty looks when you got a India stamp at a Pakistan checkpoint? Like really what does it solve?
>>534645512>so, women should be able to kill a child if the father wants it to live, and then should also be able to force a father who didn't agree to the child being had to pay for its existenceso why shouldn't the father be able to refuse to pay if he didn't want it, but she chose to have it regardlessthere are also cases the men never knew about the kids at all til hit with the child support case, sometimes while they were hard to track down since there wasn't even a relationship leading to the child, so end up in arrears without even knowing they have a kid periodit has happenedthe rights are entirely off balance and only a simp or someone being intentionally disingenuous would not acknowledge it
>>534645558It's not a conspiracy theory. People need to pay their child support. If the deadbeat is female, then she'll also get the passport revoked. >>534645528How so? By not making it punishable by law?
>>534645462Then it's going to be student loans, then any consumer debt, and so on. Ultimately, the end goal is to, like the USSR, stop citizens from leaving.
>>534645399The only ability a man has, is in the moment the load is dropped. That was your chance to decide if you wanted to risk becoming a father, or not. After the load, your job is done. You don't have any more decision power. Because your involvement isn't needing for the rest of the process. You're under the whims of the one making it. If you didn't want the chance of becoming a father, then you should've kept it in your pants.
>>534645659>bloo hoo i have to pay for my child's existencewhat you want does not matteryour cum is worthless in this equationit is the body of a woman, belonging to that woman, or the life of a child, belonging to that child.in no scenario do you have control over either.
In Germany they can even if they think you might own them some taxes deactivate your passport.Deserting too.Talking bad about Germany from abroad is also a valid reason.
>>534645214>does not mean they should all be requitted from their obligations to their family.Glad we agree on something I never brought up, nigger. He's also even more apparently not wrong that you put words in people's mouths, and argue against those instead of the issue that the family court system is stacked with retards who don't properly do their job, and a judge herself acknowledged this before and during her time in the same system. You knew this, but don't want to acknowledge it or downplay its significance, so that's why you resort to this horse shit you're currently being called out for by others.
>>534645735>How so? By not making it punishable by law?Yes. This would encourage women to think more carefully about their reproductive choices, while not encouraging people to drop out of society.>>534645626I can't think of a reason for the stamps either. I think normies just like them? They get repetitive and annoying if you travel a lot though.>oh boy, another Germany entry and exit stamp, since thats where all the flights enter Europe
>>534645951I did acknowledge it, i am allowed to downplay it. You faggots act like any intellegent attack against the horse shit you are spewing is some debate team nonsense and i just won't even consider it kek. I am allowed to expand on anything you say, if i think something is worth adding i will add it. It happens, sometimes, not enough to consider this some abhorrent act against fathers.
>>534645793There's not even consumer debt jail. You're being paranoid. Saying passport of deadbeat parents will be revoked, doesn't mean that said law arguments can be applied to other types of debt. Child support is way different than student loans, or consumer debt.
>>534645926>If you didn't want the chance of becoming a mother, then you should've kept your legs closed.long as you'd also say this we've nothing to argue over>>534645936I love your tier of idiot cause when you get most desperate you start trying to pick at any & everything said like it's some personal sore point to attacklike nobody can talk about fact without personal relevancelel>>534646125>intellegent attack>by someone refusing to "get" simple points and argues disingenuously and slimilyI'll give you that you're a bit above your average (You) bait shitter here but you're still using all the same basic bitch garbagejust a bit refined3-4/10 if they're 1/10
>>534646232>states jealously seize any authority over "their" citizens possible, but don't worry, this time its different!
>>534645926>After the load, your job is done. You don't have any more decision power. Because your involvement isn't needing for the rest of the process.It took two to make it, it should take two to decide. In that case, the man shouldn't need to pay child support if he's really no longer needed in this entire process. If you want to argue for women having this supreme right over the child, then a man's financial support isn't something that can be dictated to be owed to the duration of the process. She opened her legs in the beginning, as well, so she made just as much of a choice on the initial matter.
>>534639416The support doesn't go to the kids. It goes to the mother who blows it on shoes and tells the kid that you abandoned them.
>>534645981>This would encourage women to think more carefully about their reproductive choices, while not encouraging people to drop out of society.Sorry, son. Your retard of a mom, should've predicted that I'm a deadbeat father. Not my fault. I'm gonna use every loophole, to avoid giving you any support. But don't put me in jail for it, got it?
>>534646490>Sorry, son. Your retard of a mom, should've predicted that I'm a deadbeat father.Yep! Sorry your dad was a loser.
>>534643066>If you are the smallest bit uncertain you can keep their love for all eternity you should not marry themidiot> just mog the judge> just marry a Christian fundamentalist after reading her 50,000 word book about marriagewhich apostle suspected judas
>>534646332You're a paranoid sissy.
>>534646310you are still clinging to my every post, gobbling up every 3/10-1/10 thing i say across multiple devices nowyou can't ever come up with an actual defense, you ALWAYS go back to this debate team>well it doesn't matter i got BTFO uhhh you just don't get it uhhh you CAN'T pick at the stupid bullshit i say cus.... uhmmm....
>>534646125>I'm allowed to claim what you REALLY meant, even if you didn't say it, and even agreed with the counter to my claim!>But it's still what you REALLY meant!So, you have no real argument and are just a giant fag. Ok. It is true because I said it, fag.
>>534646584>you are still clinging to my every post *replying to yougood point, seems pathetic to reply so much, dunnit
>>534639104>Divorced fathers who owe child support will now be banned from leaving the countryWhile this sucks for guys who have been divorce raped, I'm hopeful that it'll be challenged and the supreme Court will make a decision of fairness for those who never wanted to be fathers.
>>534646601Nothing else is relevant to this thread, i answered your question and added how it relates to the OP.>>534646628I want to talk about this, i do not think it is bait i just think you are especially stupid and can't come up with any decent replies to defend your retarded position.
>>534646601it's some people's sole and only act; shoving everyone replying to them into some pre-argued strawman suit, "winning" against that like they always do, since no matter what's said you just substitute the strawman line anyway, and chalking up another "victory" in your mindmany here like it, sad to watch sometimes, cause you can tell they do little else, and HAVE little elseI'd feel bad slashing at them if they weren't such cunts about their personal self-therapy or whatever it actually is
>>534643650Anon I don't think you know how the real world works.
>>534646337>It took two to make it, it should take two to decide.Yes, You already decided the moment you dropped your load. The woman didn't. She has up until whatever week the state allows her for an abortion, to make the choice. You, as a man, risk becoming a father every time you drop a load. Because that's all the job a male ever does, regarding reproduction. Not that hard to understand.
>>534646583>lashing out because you had a garbo fatherSorry your mom was retarded.
>>534646557A loser in jail.
>>534639104Only that? Here you go to jail if you don't pay
>>534646822>a garbo fatherA what?
>>534646666>fairness for those who never wanted to be fathers.(1) its time to restore the 13th amendment and make an criminal conviction necessary to impose slavery. but that just means birthing skanks need to slap herself with a shoe and then make waterworks(2) actually its time get rid of the legal fiction that the birthing skank can exercise paternal rights without the father(3) maybe also return to justinians law that if a couple cant stay together they can go to separate monasteries but remarriage is adultery
>>534646794>I want to talk about this>spend like 50 replies evading the only point>so, women should be able to kill a child if the father wants it to live, and then should also be able to force a father who didn't agree to the child being had to pay for its existence, that's your positionyou can talk your way around it all you want and mentally gymnastics it to mean something else and evade ever speaking to it but there it sits regardlesskind of like an abandoned child
>>534646310>>If you didn't want the chance of becoming a mother, then you should've kept your legs closed.>long as you'd also say this we've nothing to argue overNo. The state allows her for an abortion. Her choice power ends until the cutoff week for abortion. You can blame biology if you want, but those are the facts.
>>534647079>No. The statewho cares about the state, the state isn't part of the question, the state has nothing do with his dick in his pants and her vag in hersnice try
>>534646310The day you can grow a fetus in your balls, is when you can choose beyond the conception time.
>>534647142at least that one was funny, carlos got some bantsteach the other guy your ways
>>534647038You think it is some perfect gotcha anything i say against it you just go into delusion like i did not even attack iti said before and i say again, yes that is how it works. You have no right over the woman's body, you have no right over the child's life. If you did not want to be a father you should not have gotten a woman pregnant, if a woman does not want to be a mother she can have an abortion, because it is her body that grows the child, so you have no say in it. If she goes through with it, it becomes your obligation, because that child is now not a part of his mother's body, he is his own life.Now you'll say i'm not even arguing with you anymore or some other random cope.
>>534647136>the state has nothing do with his dick in his pants and her vag in hers>nice tryOf course it does. Because the result is a fetus who then becomes a baby. And minors are protected by the state. I get it, you're a miser. That's fine. My advice is to drop your loads in fleshlights. So you can avoid the possibility of the scary child support.
>>534646809I'm going to assume you genuinely misunderstood me. If the one "who drops his load" wants nothing to do with the baby, then sure, you have a clear argument for the woman solely deciding whether it lives or is aborted. And if she chooses that it lives, you cannot force payment out of the man, since he made it clear he wanted nothing to do with it and she still chose to bring it into the world.If the man wants the child, then she should not have sole decision on the abortion, but he is then obligated to be financially invested in the child's care.
>>534647317>minors are protected by the state.>*unless the mother decides not to protect it before the cutoff date for unwanted baby disposal (regardless of paternal consent) or it happens to be attractive to a jew or someone closely tied to oneimportant to note, noted
Based. Fuck niggers
can you fucking imagine the testicular pain of a fetus growing in your fucking balls btwchrist
>>534645053>To make kids you'll later end up abandoning, if the marriage ends?(1) the government kidnaps your baby(2) you jump through hoops to do what you can until youre exhausted(3) the government calls you a deadbeat
there's an idea for that guy that did human centipede he doesn't really have a lot of ideas
>>534644989not an argument rapejeet
>>534645462Think bigger picture.
>>534647284wow didn't even see the (You) on this attempt>You have no right over the woman's body, you have no right over the child's life. You as a shitlord fucking WHITE MALE have sole responsibility for supporting the mother WHO SLAVES ALL DAY RAISING THIS SHIT HEAP GOD so she can support the child that never has anything that should be getting paid for like "shoes" and "underwear" that constantly have to be bought by you outside the child support, and the food since they need that too, and this is what Jesus meant by the resurrectiongot it, I think; what you actually mean
>>534647358>>534646809Also>inb4 but she has to carry it.That's biological reality. You cannot make an argument for 18 year indentured financial servitude of a man using his body to work and generate revenue who doesn't want a child, but say 9 months of a woman carrying a child and then ridding herself of all responsibility is unreasonable.>But he dropped his loadAnd she opened her legs and allowed it. It's not like she had no agency in this.
>>534639246>simping for women Disgusting faggot
>>534648084and you are very bitter about it>but if we imagine every mother is as terrible as my ownThis is all i see from this repeated cope, an untrue projection that you cannot prove, mothers have a biological drive to love their children far greater than the father. But you have to imagine that money does not go to your kids because it is the only way you can justify this much bitching over having to support them. Nobody forced you to support anyone, i will never have to because i am not retarded.
>>534648446how can I be bitter about something I just pulled out of the akashic records(aka my anus)>I love your tier of idiot cause when you get most desperate you start trying to pick at any & everything said like it's some personal sore point to attackanecdotal schmanecdotal, worth as much as a photoshopped twatter screenshotdipshit
>>534643785>Happened with my aunt,>>534643863>My aunt lived in seattle btw,
>>534648601>noooo you can't pick at the things i say because.... uhhhh..back to this cope huh>>534648632my aunt is a crackhead anon that was my point, mothers are like that only because they are drug fiends not because women are evil
>>534648801who are you quoting?
>>534648836ran of out shit to say AGAIN huhand now ten more of these before you say i'm the one baiting
>>534648836>who are you quoting?>>534648902>ran of out shit to say AGAIN huhI said "who are you quoting?"it's right here btw >>534648836so, who are you quoting?
>>534639104they're going to revoke more. they see us as their slaves and they don't want us to leave
>>534639246You want to buy your nasty fucking exes new shoes, you do you. You want to pay for some nigglet? That's not even your kid. You do you. And the real answer to this is for men to preemptively leave the country.
>>534639416>>534639246>>534639104Child support and alimony are blue pilled
>>534648967>parroting againpolly want a cracker?
>>534649081I think I should get off her firstI think she wants some water
>>534645512"Leftist pretending to not understand things, making discourse impossible"
no it was "do get out the blowtorch"ISN'T MEHAVE A SNEEDLEMME CLIPDIRTY WINGS
the majority of "people" affected by this will be non white
>>534639246Based, pay your debts people
>>534649210If you don't you'll soon be paying for it, and crying to the bank every month while you do kek>>534649262I get that's what he was going for now but i expanded later that in this case it literally is not relevant. The father only has rights over his own body
>>534639104>the trump administration will start revoking pass ports of people who fail to pay child supportI’m sure this will apply to Jews fleeing to Israel eh? Also>trump trying his hardest to keep dead beat dads in the country instead of deport themMiga will defend this
>>534649366god damn he actually managed to be funnyproud of you sonmaybe there's hope for you yet
>>534647142did you see that, he did it, carlos
>>534647358>>534648167I would love a genuinely good faith answer to why this system would be wrong, because I have never received it. If you can justify a man being compelled to use his body for 18 years to generate income for something he doesn't want, why is it unreasonable for a woman to use her body for just 9 months of actual care and then having no responsibilities for the baby past that? >They both want it: baby has a family.>Neither wants it: baby is aborted.>Mother wants it, but father doesn't: she cannot force him to provide for it.>Father wants it, but mother doesn't: she can carry it for 9 months (not deliberately cause harm to it), then she can hand it to the father and it is then his sole obligation.How is this unreasonable? If you can use the "biological reality' arguement to justify 18 years of financial servitude of an unwilling party, you can use it the other way and create a less burdensome system for the unwilling party having to commit only 9 months of their time.>inb4 any argument trying to claim the woman had less agency in willingly opening her own legs and willingly fucking someone.
you think the administratiomn will prevent everybody from leaving soon?
>>534649782>this guy might actually make itGood luck pattern recognizer
>>534649782I voted for the Trump Wall!!!!If you hate the Trump Wall, then you're a TRANNY TRANNY!!!!
>>534639104Child support in a country with legal abortion is outrageous
>>534649848how am i supposed to get out if i only speak english and have an art degree? Hmm?I'm just waiting for the lynch mobs to convene on Washington
>>534639361child support is for niggers, if you're White & in this (rarer) circumstance you just need to work it out with the whore to keep it out of the courts as much as possible. EVERY acquaintance I've ever had in this situation HAD THAT, & fucked it up THEMSELVES. Regardless, pay for your kids.
>>534639104Well that's interesting, can't say that I'm against the idea but are deadbeat dads skipping the country to avoid child support really that common in the US?
>>534639104The problem is any woman can claim you as their child's father and you have to have a DNA test to disprove it. The government isn't going to fact check it until after all your money is spent and good luck getting it back.
>>534649424Don't worry, deadbeat dads will be drafted by ICE
>>534650212>and you have to have a DNA test to disprove it.which is already illegal in some countries, if the mother doesn't consent
>>534639104And just like that leftist women fought to protect the unusual and cruel treatment of men prosecuted by Trumps DOJ who refused to pay child support
>>534650696who gives a fuck about leftist womenonly some loser or moron has to argue in favor of or against shit cause "[x] thinks [y] about it"who cares
>>534645399Why are you even arguing with a woman? Are you *literally* retarded?
>>534651224plenty of males are that retarded and as a general rule nobody ever assumes there are women here so this is just the newfaggiest kind of attempt>1pbtid enters the thread and is compelled to reply to nothing save for retardedly sniping at some post 2/3rds the way into it>224 repliesah, organic
>>534651425TL;DR I'll save myself some time and consider that a "yes"
>>534650493Yes, French woman could claim an American man who has never visited France raped them and has a kid there, and since the US has child support agreements with France, it basically means that the man is fucked. That's why data protection is so important.
Wait does this mean it wont be able to be used for citizenship verification? Lmao
>>534651550>TL;DRah, the backdoor imaginary "victory" statement of champions>>534651593I would never encourage anyone to attack a data center officer
>>534639246You have to pay child support plus buy the things the child needs on the side and hope she doesn’t sell them.
>>534651425Take your fucking pills schizo
>>534652008Fuck off tourist
>>534652008which ones are those
>>534650139I am likely going through a divorce right now, wife has the traits of a Covert Narcissist, I am expecting my life is going to go to shit. I do intend though to let her have primary custody because I know for a fact she cannot handle being around our children for more than 3 hours before she has a nervous breakdown. Shitty situation, don’t cum in crazy and don’t get married.Marriage is an obsolete institution anyways. I am not a US citizen, so this doesn’t affect me as much as it does for a citizen, that said I am not going to abandon my kids. I might take a travel job to make enough money to buy another house though.
>>534639104More proof that the USA is just a Jewish sex prison for White men. This is why I’m going to get an Irish passport due to my Irish grandmother being born in Ireland. I will not let the U.S. government separate my pink penis from South American bunda.
>>534649343It’s not like those groids are going to be vacationing outside the country anyways. But otherwise decent white men will get fucked over by this. From a dialectical standpoint it will likely be used as a way to achieve some ulterior goal.
>>534653068I hope for your sake you still have a 1/4 Gaelic foreskin.
>>534649755I am both pro life or pro choice depending on the race or races of the parents.
>>534639104>>534639246>>534639348>>534639361>>534639413we live in actual hellhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Great_Awakening
>>534639104He's such a jew
>>534640384>>534641384I don't think they want to outright admit that black men simply don't care about their offspring LOL
>>534645462Are you sure it’s not the pretext for something else?Like a draft? Like implementing travel restrictions for delinquencies for loans or credit card debt? Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis.
>>534653342R/K selection theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory
>>534639104Lot of drill rap enjoyers itt I'm guessing. Not even going to bother reading it.
>>534639104Just in time for ww3. With Jews you lose.
Nukes are fake, space is fake, earth is flat, stop sending money to Israel
>>534653849Antisemite
>>534653849So are you not allowed to fix stuff in the uk?
>>534654268Oy vey fixing stuff is antisemitic goy, just buy a new one.
>>534654268where we're going you won't own things to "fix"
>It will disproportionately affect jews and niggerslmfaoholy fuck
>>534639104Seems retarded. Do the Jews somehow make money from this punishment? Who in the world could afford to fly to another country AND have a divorce child support problem?
>>534641175It only affects Boomers, actuallyZoomers aren't having kids, they aren't even having sexBut Reddit Boomers are going absolutely ape because their European vacation while the country rots is CANCELLED
>>534639652they know why, they’re just rubbing it in your face. it’s all intentional.
>>534639104I can think of an easier solution. Just end child support. Teach women to pick better fathers for their children.
>republicans punishing men again who have no choice in women being whores or ruining their livesAhAnother reason to not have kids, now that I'm over 30.
>>534653470It's interesting to note that K-selected species are notably more intelligent than R-selected species on average.>Some researchers, such as Lee Ellis, J. Philippe Rushton, and Aurelio José Figueredo, have attempted to apply r/K selection theory to various human behaviors, including crime, sexual promiscuity, fertility, IQ, and other traits related to life history theory. Rushton developed "differential K theory" to attempt to explain variations in behavior across human races. Differential K theory has been debunked as being devoid of empirical basis, and has also been described as a key example of scientific racism.Ah yes, of course... Let's not forget what happened to Nobel Prize winner James Watson.
I like how the title says>parentspretending women can also subject to this
>>534639104>Deadbeat niggers and migrants banned from leaving the USAnother win for MIGA
>>534639104Trump really is a comic tier supervillain stabbing all his supporters in the back.
>>534657582No doubt in my mind he staged his own assassination.
Equality means EQUAL RIGHTS and men do NOT have equal rights over children. This is manifestly sickening.
>>534653241In fairness, I should have said putting the child up for adoption is an option alongside abortion, if neither parent wants it, as well. I think this system would free up the family courts to handle situations where both parents want the child and don't decide to stay together (or they act like adults and work it out together, as plenty of people do when they don't absolutely hate each other). The only argument I've ever gotten is from feminists screeching about 'her body, her choice', and not seeing the same violation in the current system that is effectively a form of indentured servitude (and indentured servitude contracts were only legally allowed to last 12 years tops, so it's actually worse than a system we outlawed in the past).
Also governments (unpoliced politicians, irganised crime con men) do not have a divine right to rule as kings. They are there as managers. REVOLUTION TIME. Time for a reset. I’d love to see it.
How is this going to effect nogs?
MIGGERS CONTINUE TO REVEL THEMSELVES AS SUBHUMAN TIER VERMIN>>534657926This, CROWELL WAS RIGHT TIME TO BRING HIM BACK
>>534639104>>534639246you guys know that underaged male victims of rape who impregnated their rapist have to pay child support, right?
