who is winning russia or ukrain? is that good or bad?
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>>534667953Ukraine for the time being.Good as long as it holds.
>>534667953the ZOG in Kiev continues to survive and feed the last remaining young goyim Ukie men into the meat grinders that are the Russian defensive lines
>>534668078did ukrain gain any land recently?
China and, arguably, the USA are the only winners of this war
>>534668328how is usa winning? doesnt this harm their relations with nato?
>>534668391It cut the entire EU from Russian gas and oil, forcing them to rely on the more expensive US ones insteadIt integrated more countries in natoIt forced Europe to alienate Russia, kinda forcing them to remain in NATO forever (and continue funding US defence)
>>534668602>>534668391Also, the rising energy prices in Europe killed many European companies and forced many others to relocate in the US
>>534668391USA is always winning even when they lose, chud. That just means extra winning in reverse, and anyways they would have won bigly if they tried, they just didn't wanna.
>>534668602if USA is making this much booty from the russo ukrain war, why is the economic situation getting worse there? is USA being a bitch for scraps?
>>534668186No but they had a highly successful PR campaign that reassured a lot of terminally online fanbase of theirs that they are winning.
>>534668637how do you feel about the war as a russian? justified? does the russian people think like you?
>>534667953Jews
>>534668186For like a two week time period last month, they gained more land than Russia by like 10 sqkm. So the lugenpresse factory got to shit out dozens of articles which Ukraine and its supporters have established is the main condition for winning.
>>534669250as an american do you want ukrain or russia to win?
>>534668656>why is the economic situation getting worse there?because of AI, unironically
Russia lost years ago when they were defeated around kiev, then kharkiv and kherson. They're just prolonging the conflict as a coping mechanism now. Their thinking is that if they can make life worse for everyone, then they're not the only losers.
>>534667953Russia is objectively winning. They still function as a country. Zelenskyland relies 100% on western handouts
>>534669605the other anons gave more valid reasons for ukrain winning
>>534669649No they didn't, they're dumb as shit.
>>534669547>defeated around kievthis will probably remain my favourite cope
>>534669547t, xoxol posting from an azc
>>534669605Russia is in a weird state where it simultaneously benefits and gets fucked over by this war
>>534667953https://liveuamap.com/
>>534669250>For like a two week time period last month, they gained more land"Gained land" here meaning that they stood somewhere, and someone online painted a map a color, and then everyone involved in the push died in under two weeks? Are you using a methodology that would count the Kursk offensive as "gained land?"
>>534669649>Okay so Ukraine has catastrophic population and demographic collapse that's unrecoverable, lost 20% of its territory and all of its resource producing regions, depends entirely on non-ukrainian colonial powers, permanently suspended its constitution, and is now fielding young women as 10% of its combat arms due to the over 2 Million KIA in the seven failed offensives, but if you think about it they're really winning because an unspecified 4chan post said so.
>>534669357Not that Anon, but I don't want either side to "win". I want rhe war to go on for as long as possible.If I had to pick a "side"? I love Ukrainian culture and wish they had the option to be imdependent and self-determimed.But in an EU vs. Russia debate, Russia is 100% in the right for invading. Euromaiden was a sham
>>534668602>It forced Europe to alienate RussiaWhat is the alternative? Just saying "do your thing in Ukraine, we're still on good terms, it's fine".What about the Baltics next year, same attitude?100% certainty /pol/ shills would also shit on us for doing so.
