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Abortion flipped Missouri blue, Rethuglicans will lose the midterms. Prochoice will dominate prolife!
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>muh abortions
>implying it won't be because of the war/Trump exposing himself as a puppet of Israel
Is this how desperate the left is to convince themselves that they're still relevant politically?
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>I owned the right by killing my unborn twins
so stunning, so brave, no clue how Trump sucking jew cock and forever middle east wars have to do with domestic mentally ill women but enjoy your (you) (not really)
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>>534699594
>communism
>100 million
>source: my ass

Fake and gay
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How exactly do liberals convince themselves that babies aren't babies?
Like you can see the baby, you know what a baby is, then you shrug and say "nuh uh" and that's it? How do they survive the sheer cognitive dissonance between observable reality and their beliefs? They're like religious people but even worse.
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It's hard to believe this matters when the retard on twitter didn't care enough to make a coherent table, or even to spend 10 seconds checking the slopbot output
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reminder leftards are the same people calling Israel "babykillers”
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>>534701025
Babies have no right over another person's life. Following the base biological drive for sex does not revoke your liberty, and until they are born they are wholly parasitic. If they were fully sentient they would have no right to live unless their host wishes it.
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Muhammed takes his incest rape offspring and uses them as human shields and later for propaganda, and leftards eat that shit up and call Israel babykillers while genociding millions of their own population via abortion

and also those are the same retards saying we worship "Baal”....

we need to get rid of fucking leftards already
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>>534701330
you should really kill yourself motherfucker
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>>534699594
repeal the 19th
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gen aborZZion, poor kids, no wonder they are retarded
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>>534701366
No, in fact i am the norm, my personal liberty is above all else, especially your feelings, which i actually could not care less about.
You should get over it, live your life, and stop trying to force others to be like you.
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>>534699594
Have you seen the types that get abortions? I want them to keep having them.
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>>534701523
dont lie to yourself retard, you are evil, you dont care about personal liberty, you care about YOUR specific shitty life, like that human garbage Hasan Piker a rich leftard scum

you people really are the lowest of the low and dont mistake yourself, society is going to fucking tear you retards to pieces
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>>534701366
OH SNAP!
AHAHAHAHA!
AHOHOHOHO!
AHEHEHEHEHEHE!
>>534701523
You got owned mother fucker!
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this thread makes my point 100% clear

leftards need to be exterminated, period. There is no fixing these fucking retards.
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>>534699594
This shouldn't surprise anyone. The American government for 50-60 years told absolutely everyone that had an issue with it to look the other way and that's final. So, it becoming "not final" you wouldn't really expect much of a surge in trying to change the status quo for half a century, right? We were all already complicit in it for a long, long time.
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they are already aborting themselves, there is no immorality is killing them

typify it, make it into law, total leftard death
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What % of them were white?
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>>534701010
Stalin and Mao didn't exist did they now you mountain spic?
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>>534699594
NOPE
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>>534701646
Every person has the right to be selfish. We live in a wholly selfish society, we idolize and reward it you can't say women are closed to it because you think they are stimky women
>>534701665
FOOL that i am stupid libtard that i am thought i could go on 4channel dot com and not get OWNED epic style ughhhhhh it is over
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>>534699594
highly doubt that as the CDC had only 613,383 abortions in the year 2022 as an example.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/ss/ss7307a1.htm
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>>534701747
there is no immorality IN* killing them

>>534701840
stop arguing with leftards, call your congressman, demand Total Leftard Death is made into a bill
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>>534699594
The 2024 presidential election proved that the Democratic Party leadership using the abortion issue to energize their base to vote for them is not going to work anymore going forward.
>Democrats always tell the leftists who hate party leadership, "I know you hate us for being too corporate, but you have to vote Blue No Matter Who for abortion! Muh Supreme Court. Think of SCOTUS."
>Roe v. Wade gets overturned
>we live in the 21st century
>some red states legalize abortion
>most don't
>it doesn't matter
>women who need abortion will simply order drugs over the internet and take instructions on how to use them from a blog or from tiktok or from a discord server or etc
>no woman is mutilating herself with a coat hanger
>it's not something oppressive anti woman reality where the government is hunting down women for do-it-yourself abortions
>the worst (Roe v Wade was overturned) has happened, and it literally was a nothing burger.
>even before the 20th century, women have always had options -- like visiting a crazy with doctor lady who lives out in the woods and prescribes well-known herbs to induce abortion
>Democrats just lost a key issue with which to animate their base

>meanwhile the Gaza war is happening and Joe Biden is helping Israel big time (this was before Trump would really ho turbo pro Israel).
>Joe Biden has made a name for himself in politics by being very pro Isarel and unapologetically Zionist
>this makes the young/leftist voter base disgusted
>they don't turn out to vote for Kamala Harris
>trump wins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbn4i7_CFIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo-UXZ-1ups
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Evangelicals will talk about the sanctity of life and then ask if we can euthanize the homeless and cheer Trump on as he murders over 100 children for Israel. Evangelicals only go hard on abortion because they believe it compensates for their own miserable failings in upholding an iota of Jesus' teachings. It's the same reason they go all in on Zionism, they believe they discovered the cheatcode that even if they beat their wives and rape 12 year olds God will look the other way as long as they write a big enough check to Bibi.
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>>534700713
CHUDs will be destroyed once the left dismantles the patriarchy!
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>>534699594
>Rethuglicans will lose the midterms.
A Virginia Supreme Court ruling just fixed that. You leftoids are so fucked, and you don't even know it yet. It's not as if there weren't warning signs... it's not as if everyone, including your enemies (which is everyone, so I repeat myself), haven't been telling you all along. It's pretty bad when even MAGA republicans can imagine a still-leftist Democrat policy that would be more popular than whatever in the fuck trans-grooming-welfare-for-everyone-except-whites-replace-em-all-with-immigrants horseshit you've got going on. So totally fucked.
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>>534701926
you kids are just too fucking retarded, nothing you said even approaches reality
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>>534701988
I am sorry honey, Total Leftard Death cannot be stopped
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>>534701025
>How exactly do liberals convince themselves that babies aren't babies?
same way jew worshipers mutilate their childrens' genitals. babies are property they can do with as they see fit
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>>534702054
even if infant circumcision is bad, its not the same
as abortion
thats the problem with you retarded leftards, you equate things that simply are not the fucking same and you use it to justify your mental retardation
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>>534701996
Every large megalopolis by the left, its only a matter of time and immigration before Texas goes blue forever you worthless misogynistic basement dwelling homophobic domestic terrorist
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>>534702136
abortion is more merciful
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>>534702042
You will be mandated to date a beautiful trans woman by your court ordered psychiatrist
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>>534702181
>edgy

I hope they implement internet ID soon so you fucking kids are filtered out already. Legal voting age should be 30
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>be white
>have children and be successful in spite of worldwide minority status and constant persecution
>obsess over encouraging the propagation of other races and cultures that want you and your children dead

Nothing in the entirety of political discourse exposes the suicidal cuckoldry of white people like abortion does.
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>>534702259
jew worshiping filth needs to be exterminated alongside the rats they worship
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>>534701925
The right can't stop demography, Trump will be the last straight presenting male republican president. We all know he gave bill clinton a blowjob on epstein's island
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>>534701926
>still takes religion seriously
"Christian values" are to conservatives/Republicans what boutique activism (No Kings, BLM, Pride, etc) are to Brunch Liberals/ Democrats.
It is nothing but meaningless virtue-signaling that only signals membership in one sociopolitical subculture or the other.
Almost NO ONE on the right truly cares about being a consistent "Christian" just like the Brunch Liberal who attended the No Kings protest last month doesn't truly care about people-of-color

I can't believe that liberals/ the "left" are always "fighting the last war" on culture war issues. The whole "conservative Christian" thing is an outdated trope. It went out of fashion in 2016 when Donald Trump's very electability signaled that neoconservative ideology had lost credibility among the grassroots Republicans. This means that the religious edge that organized Evangelical Christianity imparted to the GOP was gone because the ONLY reason that the Republicans were ever pro neocon was because of the eschatology of Evangelical Christianity. Without that becoming a meaningful force in right leaning socio-political subculture, there really is no "Christianity" to speak of there.

The right is about as secular as the left/liberals are. Their "Christianity" is about as performative as the Pride Flag the Brunch Liberal starts flying every June even though she regularly goes off on racist tirades.
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>>534701840
You are a brainwashed moron if you think they could kill 100 million people. More false than the holocaust
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>>534699594
They were virtually all non-white or mixed so it's fine.
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>>534702583
That's cool, bro. Did you know that Donald Trump is nothing but a New York liberal who was quietly supported by the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016? Democrat money is still quietly supporting your evil "right" wing populism.
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>>534701896
Fucking
PWNAGE BRO
SHIT
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>>534701905
>global
>cdc
>image even says "in the United states"
What a retard
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>>534702947
Thats because trump is Bill Clinton's rebellious slut. We leftists hate it when a gay man is in the closet
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>>534703394
>trump
It's not just Donald Trump. It's Kari Lake. It's Dr. Oz. It's RFK Jr. It's the whole MAGA movement that's getting quiet support from the Democrat Party machine. Observant normies have dubbed it the "pied piper" strategy. It's really just a way to trick corny "right wing patriots" into voting for liberal-internationalist policies by presenting them with shitty jingoistic candy-coating to vote for. They fall for it every time.
>leftists
You're a radlib. And, yeah, you turbo liberals do hate it when a real leftist/ anti imperialist calls you out on your bullshit
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>>534701905
The first column of his table is missing entirely, the data is just the row headers.
The second column has the length of WW2 ranging from six years (1939-1945) to 16 years to 72 years (1939-2011). And those last two are in the same cell, right next to each other.
The data is obviously false because whatever moron made this couldn't be assed to even read it before posting, you shouldn't have to find sources for this obvious slop.
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>>534699594
I only support abortion for POC. They don’t have the same access to healthcare and safe sex practices.
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>>534703901
>the Ruth Bader Ginsburg school of eugenics
Fair enough, I suppose. However, I'm more of the opinion that it ought to be legal for all women to obtain. Criminalizing it is a huge waste of time.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2009/07/16/ruth-bader-ginsburg-and-a-question-of-eugenics/
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>>534701010
>>534702879
seriously fucking kill yourself jewish nigger.
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>>534701025
>How do they survive the sheer cognitive dissonance between observable reality and their beliefs?
Their dissonance really shines when one of their lefty friends decide to actually have children and that same exact "lump of cells" is magically turned into a baby even while it's still in the mother.
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abortion should just stay legal
who cares about some useless fetus?
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>>534699594
>women saving us from broccoliheads
wtf I love women now
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>>534701330
>>534701523
>>534701896
get off this site and kill yourself tranny kike.
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>>534701025
How exactly do rightoids convince yourselves that you aren't a huge pussy for weeping about "muh babies"? Aren't you supposed to be some hardened warrior or whatever?
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>>534706196
>implying "ancient men" would be fine with women killing their children
That's not it chief
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>>534706196

Yup. Rightoids shouldn't care about anything that's not affecting them directly. Lefties are right about this.
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>>534701187
>it's still wriggling
>it's still trying to pilpul
HEY JEW, ITS OVER LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL YOU LOST
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>>534699594
A fetus has a consciousness less than a chicken you would eat. Having human DNA means nothing.
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>>534699594
Mao alone did 100, USSR another ~40. Sadly we'll never know the total disappearances from Castro's secret police+GDR+NorKs
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>>534699594
you are out of your element
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>>534699594
Whores should have aborted more of these low IQ monkeys. They are worthless as human beings.
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>>534706196
It's not about the "babies." It's about using an issue (abortion) as a crude justification for a broader social engineering initiative.

They think that taking agency away from women can reverse engineer ourselves into a "better" society whereby there are better wages (and more men get to have wives) because women are no longer in the workforce. Most people on both sides don't care and don't understand basic economics anymore because the culture war has rotted their brains (on both sides)

In fact, the social engineering aspect of how this is supposed to "work" is much broader than that.

But, yeah, if you talk to these "pro life" activists behind closed doors, their concern for babies goes out the window pretty fast. They care more about controlling and humiliating women
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>>534703766
Thats just your imagination, the left will dismantle nazism, racism and bigotry to bring abput utopia for LGBTQI BIPOC by opening borders and free love
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>>534701330
So landlords can kill retards?
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>>534710430
Are you fucking illiterate?
>the left
Whatever the fuck you mean by the "left," you aren't a part of it. You're a radlib
>dismantle nazism, racism and bigotry
You don't know what any of these are
>utopia for LGBTQI BIPOC by opening borders and free love
This is called niche boutique activism. This literally serves international finance capital, you scum. These are perversions of what were originally civil rights causes that now only function to get the liberal managerial class to support the interests of international capital (Wall Street).

Caring about vulnerable minorities is one thing.
But taking each civil rights cause out of its original context in radical politics and then reappropriating each cause by turning each one into nothing more than a merit badge for the liberal managerial class is a perversion of each civil rights cause.

Assholes like you are the real fascists
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>>534710418
Anyone that brings up economics in regards to birth rates is a retard.

>its not about babies towel pro lifers
For a large portion it absolutely is. Especially if you include the religious element.

For the others it has nothing to do with "social engineering", the opposite really. Sexual liberation, which was social engineering, destroyed the relationship between men and women. It also destroyed the legal balance between men and women

I hate to break it to you, but youre objectively wrong about this. Riddle me this, if the abortion is entirely the choice of the women, why exactly am I on the line for child support? It was her decision entirely.
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>>534710430

Kinda ironic that the left will bring in and support muslims. Good luck with that strategy.
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>>534711249
Liberalism will be dead within a generation. The white liberal will be completely unable to handle racial conflicts between two non white groups. At that point it will be dead forever.
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>>534699594
Roe v. Wade has been overturned, what even is the battle anymore?
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>>534699594
Missouri didn’t flip blue though
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>>534711383

White libs will not have enough kids to sustain their ideology. They can't handle staying in the race.
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>>534709695
Us leftists dominate every public ibstitution because we are the best bureaucrats.

The right wing is powerless agaibst our institutional might.
We offer our recruits recruits and collaborators more than just afoothold for total power. For those egalitarian and socialist and loyal to our values there are ample instances to serve our collectivist needs and necessities.

The right no offers great and immediate rewards. An unprincipled and second rate business major is made a college president simply because he believes in crapitaliem; meanwhile a great scheming bureaucrat becomes a senator to offer benefits to the masses; meanwhile an unknown but useful singer is catapulted into international stardom because we own the arts. We are every kind of artists patron amd thus they freely espouse our views and revile yours.

Ethnocentrism has no relevance in a world that values equality over your worthless competitive market economy that expects results over our pedantic sophistry while we promise heaven on earth to the masses. You can't run against santa clause bigots.

So we'll stay in charge of your lives from cradle to grave and blame all of societies ills and problems on capitalism while the poor, the minorities, the lgbtqi and singe women vote us into office to dismantle the patriarchy and capitalism.

Gerrymandering can't stop us from running every big city in every red state, eventually urban areas will dominate suburbs and rural places. Its only a matter of time
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>>534711098
I brought up economics in regard to wages, not birth rates. You're another person who doesn't know how to read. Legalized abortion is, theoretically speaking, only indirectly related.

>For a large portion it absolutely is.
I beg to differ. This is one of those personal outrage bait things for most of them. It's like true crime: dead baby edition. They care about their own personal rage. They don't really care about the baby
>Especially if you include the religious element.
Very few have true religious motivations for banning abortion. Yes, they exist. But they're a minority. Most just think society would be better off in general without abortion. So, it's basically a crude social engineering thing.

>Sexual liberation, which was social engineering, destroyed the relationship between men and women.
This is true. The CIA's Congress for Cultural Freedom played a huge role in this. However, the movement to ban or criminalize abortion is ALSO a social engineering campaign, particularly among the younger edgy manosphere types who LARP as Christians but can't be bothered to step into a church or read a Bible. Again, all of the shit they bitch about and blame on abortion usually comes down to economics.
>It also destroyed the legal balance between men and women
Yes, that's the fucking point.

>wrong about this.
What, exactly? From I've been seeing you have no point

>if the abortion is entirely the choice of the women, why exactly am I on the line for child support?
Laws haven't caught up to the reality of a post-industrial service-based economy where women today have way more options for supporting themselves than they had decades ago. Women today can work instead of relying on the money of their ex husbands. Again, this is a matter of simple economics.
>It was her decision entirely.
Irrelevant
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blood sacrifices to moloch and ba'al are the number one issues for female voters. DEAL WITH IT. they're empowered and strong and not gonna get back in the kitchen. Dr. Hershelmoisheberg is gonna rip that baby up with forceps and turn it into face cream. this is what a real woman looks like.
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>>534711249
Most muslims in americs support progressive trans BIPOC loving muslim congresswomen like Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar chud! You've lost your mandate, abortion will win us the midterms. Trump will be impeached, maga will be disnantled. All of you will have bussies addicted to trans femcocks
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>>534699594
And people wonder why the birthrate is collapsing into extinction levels. I hate women so much.
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>>534699594
>Midterms Blue Wave for Abortion rights

SHEEEEIT NIGGA! Alls you needs be a hammer!
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>>534713133
We've already begun our own gerrymamdering process. Soon no more rethuglicans will exist in big city districts across new england, the pacific northwest, california, the southwest, the midatlantic and all large southern cities. Its over for MAGA
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>>534713642
>Democrat Socialist Jew Seething

You better run to NE then Whineberg before you get trapped behind the lines.
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>>534713642
>Its over for MAGA
I don't know why both sides are doing this shit. Making wild predictions about completely defeating the other side in a 2 party paradigm political environment is just plain stupid.
The most realistic outcome is a near 50/ 50 split, with at least a slight advantage to the Democrats in one chamber, and more frustrating gridlock.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/534649783/
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/534649783/#534649926
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>>534712564
>I brought up economics in regard to wages, not birth rates.

My mistake. Its only every other leftist in the history of the world that has made that retarded argument. Sorry for the confusion.

>Legalized abortion is, theoretically speaking, only indirectly related.
Only indirectly related to the birth rate or the economy?

>This is one of those personal outrage bait things for most of them.
This issue pre-existed social media by about 2000 years, so no, and im guessing 99% of the people you've ever talked about this with were on this site. This is not a good cross section of the general public. Thats something you want to think, it is objectively false.

>they care about their own personal rage
Thats the majority of voters in general. No one votes for fairness or whatever gay thing you think they should be voting for. They vote for their own interest, whether that be economic, social or religious interests, pretending otherwise is ridiculous lol. You just dont like it because you see it having a negative effect on you. Thats not morality lol

>Very few have true religious motivations for banning abortion
They absolutely do. It was literally the first thing christians did with political power in ancient rome, was ban the roman form of abortion. (Abandonment)

>However, the movement to ban or criminalize abortion is ALSO a social engineering campaign
2000 year old psyop campaign, thats crazy.

>you have no point
Funny how you spent 8 paragraphs to a post with no point.
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>>534699594
women trying their hardest to convince people this is an important issue
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>>534714212
We should meme a third party into power in every single state just to make red and blue fags kill themselves. They could be the bug buttfuckers for all I care, I am sick of red and blue to death.
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>>534714944
>Only indirectly related to the birth rate or the economy?
Legalized abortion is, theoretically speaking, indirectly related to wages that are available in the economy. I don't actually believe that it is, but I see how it could theoretically be related.

>issue pre-existed social media by about 2000 years
Well,if you want to go back in time like that, yes they did care on religious grounds. I can agree with that. However, in modern times, very few people are that religious even if they claim to be
>im guessing 99% of the people you've ever talked about this with were on this site.
You're wrong
>not a good cross section of the general public.
I've spoken to these people. I've helped out on their campaigns when I was a much younger naïve teenager. Back then, I thought it was the good "Christian" thing to do. It wasn't until I spoke to various divorcees, bitter old women, and others that I realized that the true believers were few and far between. The volunteers were just unhappy about the women they thought were irresponsible and hedonistic, just like someone in their lives that they quietly hated -- often a sister, a daughter, and in the case of divorced men, their ex wives. Very few actually REALLY cared about the babies. They cared about controlling and humiliating women.
>something you want to think, it is objectively false.
From what I have experienced personally, it is true. Their anti abortion activism is their proxy revenge on some bitch in their lives who pissed them off.

>the majority of voters in general
So then you can see how the anti abortion activists are less motivated by religion, and more by their own personal baggage?
>No one votes for fairness or whatever gay thing you think they should be voting for.
I agree, and this also applies to abortion. Most don't care about the morality of it. They care about their own rage over the fact that it's happening.
>You just don't like it
I don't care.

Morality has nothing to do with politics.
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>>534715918
This. So much this. You, sir, are based as fuck!
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>>534713898
Antisemitism is a left wing belief now.chud, neonazi's are Netanyahu's favorite stooges. How does it feel to bite the hand that feeds you? Trump's grandchildren are all jewish. You hypocrite!
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>>534716660
>Legalized abortion is, theoretically speaking, indirectly related to wages that are available in the economy.
Our birth rates during the great depression were double, and thats when Planned Parenthood was founded. Theres places were the average net wealth is two goats that have ten kids a piece. Its a question of cultural standards. Which is really the core of the point i was making. If we promoted young motherhood as a good to women, birth rates would increase.

>However, in modern times, very few people are that religious even if they claim to be
Its more that the average person is a stupid ape than them not being religious. Modern liberals are highly religious, its just not a formal religion.

>the majority of abortion activist are bitter old men
Did you happen to live near a retirement community or Florida?(but I repeat myself) Because the majority of abortion activists are youth group types.

>Morality has nothing to do with politics
Mostly.

>So then you can see how the anti abortion activists are less motivated by religion, and more by their own personal baggage?
Their religion is part of their personal baggage unless we're declaring a religion as morally correct. Which neither one of us are really doing in this argument.
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>>534716696
Politics is tribal now, depending on which third party is chosen their rivals would win. You will never outrun the democrats. We'll use the libertarians to thwart MAGA like in new mexico in 2016,2020 and 2024
>>534714212
Go right ahead, it will still lead to democrats winning
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>>534717181
Funny enough, all of Biden's children married into the tribe. I have no problem with it. Social networks and romance can work out that way sometimes. Whatever
>weaponized antisemitism
Just like when you guys try to weaponize identity politics, it never comes off quite right. The whole "Jews are bad" thing doesn't work when Jews are friendly with BOTH sides
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>>534717447
>Politics is tribal now
Yeah, that's why I hate both parties and look down on both MAGA and Blue MAGA (which is what you are) with contempt. Tribalism is profoundly stupid and has displaced meaningful discussion on things that matter
>it will still lead to democrats winning
I don't give a fuck. The sooner I see both mainstream parties destroy one another, and the country along with themselves, the better.

Red or Blue, they don't care about you
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>>534717907
>Tribalism is profoundly stupid
Its genetic. The average person will always be tribal.

What you need to get over is the idea that man is a rational animal. He is not.
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>>534717310
>a question of cultural standards. Which is really the core of the point i was making.
As I brought up before, I don't believe that legalized abortion necessarily has any impact on wages today.
>If we promoted young motherhood as a good to women, birth rates would increase.
The economic aspect cannot be overlooked here. You're looking at the Great Depression. What we have now is a cumulative situation where (1) we have been in a technical depression since the 2008 financial crisis and (2) this comes after decades of sexual liberating social engineering. It's all been planned out decades in advance. Pic related. The decline in birth rates is DELIBERATE.

>more that the average person is a stupid ape than them not being religious.
I have seen plenty of "religious" people who don't exemplify any of the teachings. It's like cosplay for them
>Modern liberals are highly religious, its just not a formal religion.
This is true. It's a cult like devotion to institutional authority and the "latest thing." The genius part of their cult is that it technically has no formal leader.

>Because the majority of abortion activists are youth group types.
Ah! I remember that too. You never mingled with the older ones then? I did. The youth group activists have their issues as well. Let's just say that they're not exactly waiting until marriage. So, again, the motivation isn't really religious so much as it's their version of a social mixer.

>Mostly
Politics is part theater show, part mafia, and part steering wheel on the child's car seat.

>religion is part of their personal baggage
I suppose that is partially true. However, I would argue that religion is its own separate entity from the individual. It's a set of teachings and a very specific mindset. If you are not motivated by the proper religiously prescribed mindset, and you're more motivated by your baggage, to do something in the NAME of religion, then you're not really doing/voting for something BECAUSE of religion
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>>534710418
>on both sides x 20
>but if you're against the insane feminist eugenic theories of leftist depicted in that video, that's a willful cynical and evil act of social engineering.
>both sides though x 20, I have no agenda
>both sides x 40
>both sides x80
Thank you enlightened centrist you are my greatest ally.
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>>534718233
>Its genetic. The average person will always be tribal.
Unfortunately, you're right about this. I guess I never got that gene. I've always been a little bit different
>What you need to get over is the idea that man is a rational animal. He is not.
I think that means on what you mean by rational. In terms of short term planning, you could argue that man is a rational animal. Of course, from a long term big-pucture point-of-view man is largely irrational.
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>>534699594
Why do conservatards pretend to care about human life? It's all self righteousness.
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>>534719154
>The decline in birth rates is DELIBERATE.
I dont think so.

I think it was just an after effect of putting women into the work force. Corporate powers wanted a larger labor supply, and their first step almost doubling the available labor by encouraging women to join the workforce.

They did not think of, or care about the effects.

>I have seen plenty of "religious" people who don't exemplify any of the teachings
How is a stupid ape supposed to follow rules he barely understands?

>You never mingled with the older ones then?
Apparently not.

>So, again, the motivation isn't really religious so much as it's their version of a social mixer.
Theres a social aspect to religion. They organize their social groups around religion, its absolutely religious. You dont have to be a perfectly moral person to be religious either.

>It's a set of teachings and a very specific mindset. If you are not motivated by the proper religiously prescribed mindset, and you're more motivated by your baggage, to do something in the NAME of religion, then you're not really doing/voting for something BECAUSE of religion

The two are inseparable. You cannot have a large religion without an large institution full of people. With that comes your baggage. The theoretical is sometimes the enemy of the real.

Ultimately the point im making is that the majority of people are stupid animals that need religion to contain their worst impulses. A society is also better off with a homogeneous belief system. A good strong religion at the core of your society generally only a boon to your society, whether or not its expressed it strange or unhelpful ways at times.
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>>534699594
>I WANT MOTHERS WHO WOULD KILL THEIR KIDS TO BE FORCED TO RAISE THEM
So you want dead babies instead of dead fetuses?
Expect a drastic increase in Sudden Infant Death Syndrome.
Why the fuck do you people want obviously diseased branches to propagate?
If this woman is a child-killer, isn't it best if her genes die out?
Personally I would offer women ten thousand dollars to get herself permanently sterilized.
Two thousand dollars for men to get a vasectomy.

And I absolutely would market it as RISK FREE SEX FOREVER.

If you faggots want to keep propagating the mentally myopic stop crying when you're surrounded by short-sighted retards who demand a hundred million foreigners to be imported for authentic cuisine.

Europe became stupid as fuck when Abortion was made illegal in the 1800s.
That's right faggots. Abortion until the moment of quickening was legal in Europe until the late 1800s.
Which is when the rise of feminism began.
You intentionally forced bad branches to produce fruit.

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

You forced bad branches to provide fruit and you wonder why the fruit is sour.
The fall of Europe coincides with the demand that every life be forced upon us all.
Even the bad seeds from bad trees.
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>>534699594
>100 billion brazillion quintrillion
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>>534719579
>enlightened centrist
On good days, I'm apolitical. On most days, I'm a nihilist. I don't care about the political system anymore. If you think I'm centrist, I'm sorry. I never meant to come off that way. I hate centrists.
>that video
I posted that to make a point about where we are culturally. Even if we were to take her seriously, her understanding on the standard teaching regarding "evolution" is so ridiculously wrong that it would be pointless to take her seriously. As much as I think Jordan Peterson is a fucking clown, even an ignorant charlatan like that understands evolution better than that woman does.
>social engineering
Either side that tries to resort to blunt cultural manipulation to achieve a certain outcome is engaged in social engineering. I don't mean that it's necessarily always a bad thing. It's just kind of forced and it nowadays goes against the grain of the modern globalized economy. You can't reverse engineer things and "go back to tradition" without addressing the realities of the modern day economy. No one really seems to want to address that.
It's always either
>return to tradition
or
>men are no longer necessary! boss babes rule the world
But no one wants to deal with the fact that having to get a side-gig or 3 in a post-industrial economy is a really difficult way to raise a family, especially when everything's been skyrocketing in price lately.
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>>534699594
?????
>Missouri has not flipped blue in recent elections and remains a reliably red state in presidential and statewide races. The last time Missouri voted for a Democratic presidential candidate was in 1996, when Bill Clinton won the state. Since then, it has consistently supported Republican candidates, with Donald Trump winning by double-digit margins in both 2016 and 2020.
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>>534702879
Pretty easy when you're so retarded you destroy all of your food.
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>>534719799
Yes. A man is capable of being rational, but he is not rational in and of himself. Irrationality is much more 'natural' to us than rationality. You have to try to be rational, and most people arent even interested in trying.

>I guess I never got that gene.
I understood it much less as when I was younger. I think more analytically based people struggle with some of those core concepts of humanity that seem to come natural to your average self assured dumbfuck.

However its made more sense to me with age. That being, that whether you like it or not, you are a part of your demographic. Thats how the vast majority of people are always going to see you, no matter how you think or act. You dont have to be completely constrained by it, but you do have to accept it, and accept that it does matter to alot of people.
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>>534719154
Birthrates weren't high enough for them that's why they import the irish to toil for them in the cities and the Germans to make their food. It's why they let all the Mexicans into the US to work when Californian agriculture industry was collapsing in the 1920's. The mass boomer die off has been known about for 50 years coinciding with the legalization of tens of millions of non white illegals and the easing of immigration restrictions of third world shitholes for cheap labor. Basically all of American history is importing dysgenic laborers to undercut native labor usually criminally, and you wonder why people can't afford kids or compete
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>>534720089
>I think it was just an after effect of putting women into the work force.
Nope, that was deliberate. Getting women into the workforce was also a deliberate part of the plan, along with the women's liberation stuff that would perkeate throughout the culture. The elites have been wanting population reduction for decades, and they finally got it. There are whole bodies of work written decades ago about how this has been the plan all along

>How is a stupid ape supposed to follow rules he barely understands?
Proper religious practice requires consistent self-discipline over an extended period of time. Nowadays, everyone's mind is so rotted by social media algorithms destroying their attention span that no one has the self-discipline to so much as sit down and read a book much less put in the work it takes to follow religious teachings. You could start first by banning smart phones, but I'm just being quasi flippant

>Apparently not.
Geez! Whatever happened to the chaperone/mentor - mentee dynamic that they used to have?

>its absolutely religious. You dont have to be a perfectly moral person to be religious either
The social aspect seems to outshine a lot of what's going on. The lack of adherence to proper religious teaching is itself evidence that the motivation isn't exactly religious.

>With that comes your baggage.
That baggage often has nothing to do with the religious teachings though. It is literally, "I was traumatized by X that happened in my life, therefore I will do Y in the name of religion lest X comes back to fuck me in the ass again." It's just so base and so self-centered at the end of the day.

>A society is also better off with a homogeneous belief system.
>A good strong religion at the core of your society generally only a boon to your society
The funny thing about the US is that religion has never really been a unifier. Since the beginning, we've always been divided by different denominations. Premarital pregnancy was frequent back
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Pro-life niggers get faced with some actual facts and don't respond, like always.
Enjoy your nigger-surplus.
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>>534720203
Anon, I'm against these women hating prolifers too.
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>>534720673
>it was real in my communist fantasy
lol retard
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>>534710975
You're so indivividualistic and moronic that you confuse the trees for the forest. Our long march through the institutions is over, socialists control NYC the engine of capitalism, we control the bay area the tech hub of the world. We control every large corporations HR department, we are unending in our dominance of public and corporate life. The lgbtq capital of america is silicon valley followed by the dmv, followed by NYC. We have won, ee control every urban center. You might run the whitehouse, supreme court and congress. But every staffer, every u elected bureaucrat, every low ranking judge, every law school, every hospital, every medical school and every university espouses our leftist viewpoints. You can't meaningfully fight back against that level of power, the left owns you from cradle to grave
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>>534721466
>Nope, that was deliberate
Maybe. Ive thought that in the past. I just think big giant orchestrated plans are less likely than people just not considering consequences and justifying their actions after as more likely.

>You could start first by banning smart phones
We just gotta start beating people again i think.

>The lack of adherence to proper religious teaching is itself evidence that the motivation isn't exactly religious.
Nothing a good flogging couldnt cure.

> is literally, "I was traumatized by X that happened in my life, therefore I will do Y in the name of religion lest X comes back to fuck me in the ass again."
People are coated in sin. Its inescapable in this world. I can imagine how the explosion of hedonism in the last few decades has excaserbated this.

>The funny thing about the US is that religion has never really been a unifier.
I mean it definitely was. Most states had a religious requirement to hold public office until somewhat recently.

This actually even came up in Kennedys election. People were talking about the undue influence of the pope. Protestants may be different sects, but theyve always been united against larger religious institutions.
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>>534720222
Abortion saves lives you worthless CHUD
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>>534700713
>Is this how desperate the left is to convince themselves that they're still relevant politically?
they are so relevant that the GOP is cheating as much as possible to steal the election
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>>534701025
>why do libtards deny reality
It's a religion. It's all faith based belief they don't evaluate any of it logically.
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>>534701926
>Muh whataboutism
We get it - you think killing children is morally acceptable if those children might be an inconvenience
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>>534723493
>You can't see the forest for the trees
The irony of you posting this then saying all this shit is honestly hilarious



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