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Why did the Japanese favour trade with the Dutch and not with the Portuguese?
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Because of problems they had with the Portuguese and their missionaries.
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>>534710969
most people prefer being around white people
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>>534710969
because the catholics tried taking over the local fiefdoms
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>>534710969
They're called potruniggers for a reason.
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>>534710969
Protestants were okay with taqqiya and anytime they set foot on Japan the Japanese told them to step on a portrait of Jesus or GTFO. Protestants did so.
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>>534710969
Because the Dutch ships were richly adorned
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>>534710969
Is it because the Portuguese tried to convert them to catholicism and form a fifth column?

Maybe they had it coming
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>>534710969
>Trade with blond tall lads or swarthy Alberto Barbosas
Gee, I don't know.
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>>534710969
The Dutch were more business-like at that time
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>>534710969
Jews
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>>534711301
/thread
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After the spanish and portuguese kicked out the jews, they became beaner shitholes
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>>534710969
Dutch:
>White
>Tall
>Handsome
>Chill
Portuguese:
>Brown
>Short
>Ugly
>Smelly
>Yapping about Rabbi Yeshua all day
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>>534710969
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>>534710969
Gee I wonder.
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Dutch did not interfere with Japan's sovereignty, Portuguese did.
Dutch just traded, Portuguese probably tried to sus out the leaders and tried to figure out ways to turn them or kidnap them.
Portuguese had a shit reputation back then, they were glorified pirates.
They literally kidnapped Chinese kids and sold them to India, and performed dozens of massacres along the Chinese coast.
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>>534710969
Stockholm syndrome.
Nips talk themselves up a lot, but they were just a punching bag for western powers (actually they still are lol)
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>>534710969
Dutch didn't care about religious conversion like the Portuguese did. It was all about money. The Japanese seemed to prefer it that way.
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>>534710969
Because if you ain't Dutch you ain't much, and if you're Portuguese you're covered in grease
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>>534711500
This sounds homosexual as fuck doe
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>>534710969
Because the Catholic missionaries that came with the Portuguese ended up taking a bunch of the Japanese "converts" as slaves and selling them outside of Japan.
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>>534711301
>Taqiya
Not exactly, they had to agree not to proselytize or bring any religious items outside the tiny area their port was situated. The Dutch also probably despised religious imagery anyway as they had campaigns of destroying catholic art around that time
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>>534710969
Because Asians love white people and white skin and the Dutch were actually white, while the moortuguese were a bunch of brownoids who had darker skin than a nip.
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Japanese depiction of a Portuguese sailor
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>>534710969
Very ungrateful by the Japs to be honest.

If wasn't for Portugal Japan would have never known what a firearm even is they would have remained military backward for who knows how many centuries more
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>>534711301
>Source: trust me bro
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>>534710969
Dutch are tall chads compared to portuguese
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Japanese depiction of a Portuguese merchant
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>>534711983
Who is the Portuguese sailor standing on?
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>>534710969
The Portuguese missionaries were spreading Christianity to the Farming peasants who were ruled over by feudal lords. This led to an especially bloody christian rebellion, which pissed the feudal lords of Japan off enough to cut ties to outside influences. Except for the dutch because they were just jews/protestants in it for the money and hated catholics.

Catholicism is and always has been a scam by italian mafiosos in rome to steal peoples church money around the world because of a bunch of made up 2000 year old bullshit
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>>534712004
They wouldn't have the katana either
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>>534712131
my ancestor
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>>534710969
because Portugese with others used trade hub they got from japs also as an means to sneak monks to force conversions on christainity as an faustian deal
VOC saw a loss of good customer by this so they helped japs because they didnt want to lose a lucrative customer

anything else is crypto jewish cope or jewish propaganda
next slide thread with question that doesnt deserve own thread please
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It wasn't the Dutch, it was specifically the Dutch East India Company. They refused diplomatic relations with the Dutch government itself. The VOC would transport a Dutch guy to the Emperor in a sealed box to tell him about the outside world.
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>>534712236
>commie flag
>upset that peasant christians rebelled against their feudal masters
Make up your mind.
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>>534711301
>anytime they set foot on Japan the Japanese told them to step on a portrait of Jesus or GTFO.
where were ancient japs getting portraits of jesus??? genuine dumbfuck nigger-tier story lmao
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>>534712107
The Dutch were manlets back then. Portuguese were probably taller and manlier. Germanics in this period shrunk in size because of massive population growth and less access to meat because of increased mouths.
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>>534712336
>They refused diplomatic relations with the Dutch government itself
wrong
VOC was autonomous body with priviledge to wage own diplomacy and war if not involving the crown with it
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>>534712131
>brown
>loves chicken
Friendly reminder that Africa actually begins in Southern Europe.
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>>534712410
The anons story is mostly wrong but they did have religious art they'd confiscated from Catholics/Jesuits and learned that converted Japanese Catholics would refuse to step or desecrate them therefore outing themselves as Christians
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>>534712410
They were regularly burning Christians alive and confiscating portraits and wooden carvings. They probably forced them to pee on the cross as well. The Dutch were pragmatic.
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>>534712352
Well obviously the japanese mafia wasnt going to give their monopoly on being parasites over to the catholics.

Anyways I dont support feudalism but I hate Catholicism and the English version of protestantism (wannabe jews)
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>>534712501
I think you misunderstood what I wrote.
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>>534710969
Portuguese were christcucks trying to destroy Japan, Dutch were chill they just wanted to trade shit and bang prostitutes
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>>534711393
This. Roman Catholicism, particularly at the time, openly required the dogma that the pope is a higher authority than any king or emperor. Naturally this would rub the imperial court the wrong way. Meanwhile the Dutch were generally Calvinists and thus both reject the pope who claims to usurp the emperor and refuse to engage in the overt iconography of the Catholics. This made them much more palatable to an imperial court that feared being overthrown by a novel religion and was concerned with the preservation of their culture.
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>>534711883
And what about the cross? They also forced them to step on the cross and even pee. The Dutch were okay with that. Protestantism is a larp as is Catholicism, the original form of Christianity did not worship Christ, the trinity or even the cross.
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>>534712584
Dutch were Calvinists and Reformed, and thus have no portraits nor carvings to burn. Calvinists are iconoclasts by nature.
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>>534712280
>we wuz

Cringe.

I hate latin turd-worlders taking credit for the achievements of Spain and Portugal only because we are mutt creatures with 50% of Iberic blood. Why can't we just accept we didn't exist at that time instead of being cringe
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>>534712720
So, they were forced to step on the cross as well.
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>>534712730
It was a joke. You dont have to present your inferiority complex like that. Relax.
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>>534710969
The Japanese already started trading with the Portuguese in the 1600s, for their feudal caveman tech level, still fighting with spears and bows and light armor, the Portuguese muskets were literally magic.
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>>534712622
point taken as i now see that pesky
>the
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>>534712777
Do you have any evidence of this?
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>>534712638
They probably would have filled with black people from mozambique if they succeeded in colonizing it.


t. Trust me I know
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>>534712709
the desecrating imagery thing was mostly for suspected Japanese secret converts. Afaik the Dutch were allowed to practice their faith amongst themselves on their designated landing point
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>>534712647
This has always been the case. The way the roman catholic church worked after the collapse of rome was they would have their bankers fund wars for kings around europe.

In exchange the deal was that all church revenue would have to be handed over to the papacy, which is really just a fancy way of charging interest.

The most infamous example of this is when the pope sent william the conqueror to destroy england ruled by the anglo saxon kings, because they didnt want to send over church revenue.

The catholic church was so pathetic right before the protestant revolution they had a medici banker as a pope.

Anyways after protestantism kicked off in germany, the jews fleeing Spain and Portugal in amsterdam along with the normans in england killed their king and set up parliament above the king so they could fund their own wars through their own form of usury, central banking.
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>>534712901
Kek
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>>534712638
>they just wanted to trade shit and bang prostitutes
Literally me. Fr fr.
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>>534712795
I don't care, I was talking about the Letrino-American behavior in general, not only 'bout you

And for the record I still think you are cringe AF You stupid palm-jeet.
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>>534710969
The dutch were easier to boil to death.
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>>534711301
>Protestants
>taqqiya
You're getting things mixed up pajeet

>>534712352
Marxists can't logic
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>>534712777
Which is fine, because according to Protestant belief you don't worship the cross or any other item, symbol or ritual - that's what peasants and heathens do. You worship God by way of Jesus Christ, nothing less, nothing more.
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>>534710969
Because the Japanese realized that Portuguese Jesuits were infiltrating their government and subverting their leaders in an covert attempt to dominate their territory. Not to say the Dutch East India Company wasn't eventually aspiring to do the same thing, but they were much more restrained in their tactics.
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>>534712979
LLM aren’t real life, they forced them to step on images of Christ and the cross and if they wanted more access probably more obscene things. Japan banned Christianity in 1638 and they sussed out every trader from Europe, some of them weren’t Dutch despite being VOC.
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>>534713246
Adam smith is a "marxist" by american retardo fatty logic because he talked shit about landlords and other parasites.

Of course marx offends americans because your economy is ass backwards run by worthless parasites (stock market, drug dealers, real estate, insurance) that produce nothing other than infinite pajeets in teenagers jobs.
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>>534713300
Your form of protestantism is just jew worship. All you worship is the dollars you print in the central banks and send to israel you circumcised animal.
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>>534713339
Good answer
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>>534711301
>Japanese told them to step on a portrait of Jesus or GTFO
They didn't even need to do that because the Dutch promised not to promote Christianity and in fact, they also provided military and financial assistance to the Japanese shogunate to help it expel the Portuguese.

After that, Dutch people were prohibited from carrying crosses and things like that in Japan but that's pretty much it.
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(((Dutch)))
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>>534710969
(((Dutch))) turned out to be Tengu nose-goblins.
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>>534711285
They aren't called that thougheverbaithënsen
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>>534712709
>the original form of Christianity did not worship Christ, the trinity or even the cross
what did they do?
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>>534710969
Dutch Protestants didn't think stepping on a Cross is sinful like Catholics do, which is what Japs demanded to enter
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>>534712777
and >>534712720 's point is that the dutch wouldn't have religious icons to trade to the japanese in the first place
so it begs the question, where the fuck are they getting these crosses and portraits to such common extent that every harbor possessed them for a theological litmus test?

it's a cute story but it instantly falls apart the moment you put the what and the where together
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>>534710969
Because both people are socially awkward and secret sexual deviants.
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>>534714356
> where are they getting sticks to make a cross
> how do they make art

Are you a retard?
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>>534711077
>Because of problems they had with the Portuguese and their missionaries.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbuf3B6ZQ7M
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>>534713246
Protestants tend to be good golems and userful idiots for Muslims, especially the Anglos... the pajeet is right in this case btw, you are all worthless subhumans
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>>534712413
The dutch are spanish vassals in that time who became relevant a century later and after that irrelevant again
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>>534711895
You are a half judaized and half niggerfied mongrel, for the asians every european was white in that time
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>>534710969
Because the Dutch were traders and the Portuguese were missionaries, the Dutch approach created profit for both sides. In contrast, attempting to expand a new religion in a society put the establishment in danger, which was likely closely tied to the existing religious order.
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>>534711705
>glorified pirates
They are not english as i know poonadian...
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>>534711673
>>534711638
>>534711500
I wonder why you are both getting replaced by shitskins btw after centuries of protestantism lol
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>>534712523
>brown
american calling someone brown is comical... a niggerhell freemason shithole trying to teach manners to someone ?
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>>534712144
Kek!
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>>534712777
No, they weren't.

The funny thing is, there was already the same fake news in the 17th century.
>oi those Dutch cunts surely stepped on a portrait of jesus m8
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>>534711806
Where they THAT Jewish?
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>>534710969
Porchgeese were the Ferengi of that era, impossible to be around unless the only thing you cared about was fucking over people for money

You could literally buy shares of stock in pirate ships and get a % of their booty when they made it back to port. They were bad people
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>>534711635
>muttangutan shilling for kikes
many such cases
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>>534714827
Portgoose weren't even "glorified" pirates. They were a straight up pirate nation like Vikings or something.
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>>534714957
Portuguese are not like you jewish masters, mutt vermin
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>>534715044
Stop projecting you perfidy into others, muttoid slave
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The Portugese wanted to spread religion. The Netherlands always just wants to do trade. And we were arms traders who could help with getting rid of our enemies. Just like we helped America with the arms to get rid of the British.
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>>534710969
Dutch are kosher in that time, so they get the pass...
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>>534714589
Kek
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>10 posts of unintelligible monkey noises
Hue Hue hue
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>>534715159
Lmao
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>>534715159
The real reason Japan traded with us
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>>534714194
Bastante incierto, incluso en los primeros años vemos tres tipos de cultos claramente contradictorios, además a nivel fundamental: Judíos mesiánicos, gnósticos y cristianos.
Muy poco podemos tener por cierto acerca de las enseñanzas del nazareno.
Que predicó la llegada del reino, que desafío las costumbres de la era y su bautismo por Juan quien probablemente era un esenio
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>>534712541
The irony is, Jesus washed the feet of dinners and the Japanese totally failed to see this and realize that stepping on Christ's image wouldnt be a bad thing since that is what he came to Earth for .
More depressing was the Catholics ignorance of telling them this lesson which would have saved countless Japanese Christians from death.
In short
> The reformation did nothing wrong
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>>534710969
Dutch are White and trustworthy
>Unlock Brown ShitSkins
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>>534710969
The Japanese had demon stories and folklore about the people who traveled to Japan, catching rides on the portuguese ships
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Ports do not actually care about saving souls or helping others…only commerce. Portuguese wanted to convert the Japanese, the Dutch wanted to just take their money. One had a higher mission. Protestant work ethic, all that stuff is all about enslaving others for profit. Catholics are deeper than that.
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>>534710969
Portuguese where a pressing threat due to evangelism, something they shared with Spain, who was similarly a threat and also encroaching on the libenstrum known as the Asian co prosperity sphere
The Dutch at the time where relatively harmless, just happy to undercut the former and be there so to speak, they more flexibly worked with Japanese authorities, and religiously where more in line with their pagan hosts to begin with.
They were a breath of fresh western trade for the japs comparatively.
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>>534715085
Bro... what Portugal did to Brazil.... I hope your post is ironic
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>>534715459
Catholics are massive pieces of thieving shit
> NO WE STOLE ALL THAT GOLD FROM MEXICO AND THE INCANS BECAUSE OF THEIR SOULS!

Shut the hell up you papist cuck
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>>534712144
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>>534715459
The Portuguese also did a shit ton of slave trading they didn't have the moral highground here
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>>534711578
Yes because we didn't convert the Japanese or preach Jesus to them
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>>534712144
A Brazilian
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>>534715159
>the dog jumping in
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>>534715584
*steps on image of Christ to sell wooden shoes and Gouda cheese*
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>>534715767
Calvinists didn't think that was sinful. They even had a moment where they smashed holy Catholic statues which we call the Beeldenstorm
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>>534710969
Because the Portuguese are Catholics, they bring in BBC, and Japanese men all have small pp.
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>>534712236
1st half of your essay doesn’t match the 2nd half at all.

Like you are a commie and the Portuguese were tearing down the feudal shit in japan to awaken the classes from the tyranny of the rich…then you just do a 180 and “no christianianty is just extraction of wealth o algo”
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>>534713300
It’s not since they did it with the taking dick from Pygmy pagans in mind
There’s really very few situation where consciously stepping on the crucifix isn’t anything other then a debased form of seething spite and crass flaunting of one’s low nature
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>>534715926
And that’s why you always lose to Portugal in the Euros.
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At first, the Spaniards and Portuguese were received with enthusiasm. For thirty years, the converts (including among the ruling classes, such as Konishi Yukinaga) numbered in the hundreds of thousands (between half a million and seven hundred thousand in the year of the prohibition). But Tokugawa gradually became disillusioned as he realized that Spain seemed more interested in the evangelizing campaign, to which it attached great importance, than in commercial matters. He began to side with Holland and England, enemies of the Spanish Crown, who filled his head with insidious lies, like Grima Wormtongue, claiming they desired trade relations with Japan, and that, like good Protestants (crpto jews), they didn't give a damn about evangelizing or God and were only interested in money.
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>>534716243
Is that wrong though? I don't think we tried really hard to convert Japan and we traded with them for centuries
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This thread is a crock of shit
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>>534716415
>Is that wrong though? I don't think we tried really hard to convert Japan and we traded with them for centuries
"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you."
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>>534716556
I'm not religious but i thought that spreading your religion everywhere is more of a Catholic thing
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>>534710969
Because like the absolute retards we are, we ruined things by trying to jew them, we tried to subvert their country by converting it into christianity
and they recognized it and punted us out of the country, rightfully so!
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>You will never be a young Dutch sailor in 1715, meeting in a back alleyway with a suspiciously young Japanese girl who promises her life to you, whisking her away to the countryside to form a beautiful family in glorious Nippon

why even live
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>>534711638
Virtually everyone finds portuguese attractive and dutch not
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>>534715234
>>534715752
White males are the niggers of Asia
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>>534716137
Not really contradicted.
>Some Japanese feudal lords become Christians themselves
>Christianity become more common in places ruled by them
>One of Christian feudal lord moves to a different place (not a punishment, just moved to rule a different place)
>A new feudal lord arrives, turns out he is a shitter lord and doesn't give a fuck about Christianity
>People hate the new lord and start a rebellion, not just Christians
>The Shoganate uses it for anti-Christianity propaganda as much as possible
This is how Shimabara Rebellion, the biggest ''Christian'' rebelion actually happened
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>>534716857
>Because like the absolute retards we are, we ruined things by trying to jew them, we tried to subvert their country by converting it into christianity
>and they recognized it and punted us out of the country, rightfully so!
It's deplorable to see a Portuguese man embracing the anti-Christian "principles" of his English "friends" (protestant aka jewish). A shameful display of nonsense and self-hatred.
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>>534716710
>I'm not religious but i thought that spreading your religion everywhere is more of a Catholic thing
It is a direct command from Jesus recorded in the Gospels.
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>>534712144
I almost missed it
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>>534716440
Why?
Elaborate
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>>534716243
What was the point of converting people anyway?
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>>534711301
it was specifically the dutch because the dutch agreed to not proselytize. the japanese didn't make the dutch denounce christianity, they didn't care about the dutch traders personal religious beliefs
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>>534718603
>What was the point of converting people anyway?
Only false Christians, atheists, and crypto-Jews would ask such a question. They think everyone is as false and hypocritical as they are. The Iberians were perfectly aware that Japan was already a highly civilized nation. The purpose of the conversions was never a "conquest".
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>>534719379
Yeah I think it was retarded to focus resources on converting people rather than trade
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>>534712501
There was no fucking crown, we where a literal federated republic like Switzerland you fucking retard. Open a fucking book for once.
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>>534719453
>Yeah I think it was retarded to focus resources on converting people rather than trade
Because you worship money instead of God. And look where that materialistic drift has led the West. By their fruits you will recognize them.
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>>534719647
Madrid is full of Sudacas because of those conversiones. Yikes
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>>534712798
That’s not really a fair assessment. Japan had their craftsmen reverse engineering muskets the instant they were exposed to them and by the late 1500s had the highest concentration of domestically produced firearms in the world
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>>534719809
That a reflection if I see one
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>>534710969
because portugueesse tried to sneak in after being told to leave becaus they were short ugly curly haired dark men who kept trying to convert everyone to christianity and refused to sell or trade guns and superior sword steel with the nips. dutchbros were attractive tall blue eyed blonde haired chill dudes who nip women lusted after and were super cool with samurais because they brought them lots of guns and superior european steel and most importantly THEY ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO ENTER THE COUNTRY while waiting in the harbor instead of just waltzing in with muddy boots like disgusting portujeets
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>>534714117
go back

>>534710969
They didn't want people being converted to Christianity.
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>>534712144
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>>534719809
>Madrid is full of Sudacas because of those conversiones. Yikes
Madrid if full of hispanic americans because of capitalism.
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>>534720266
Dumb boomer
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>>534712274
Western swords proved to be superior to the japanese, where Spanish Rapiers and elite mexica warriors beat the samurais at Cagayan in 1582.
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>>534710969
JESUIT TENGUS TONGUE JOMŌN ANUS>>534711077
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>>534713447
You are based for a commie, and a free thinker. These days I don't give a fuck about the specifics as long as we can kick shitskins and parasites like landlords and jews.
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>>534719647
Is this a joke? What does spain stealing a bunch of gold and wasting it on stupid shit have to do with Christianity? In fact Spain wasted their gold so badly it led to thinkers like adam smith coming to yhe conclusion money =/= wealth because of all the money you morons squandered.

> you worship money instead of god
Catholics loved money. Specifically other peoples money which is why you kept stealing everyone else's like when the pope sent william the kanqueror to england to collect debt.

Sneed
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>>534720311
X-Generation actually.
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>>534719874
this is the answer
ALSO: brazil is the india of the western hemisphere
ALSO: christ is king
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>>534719647
Fuck off nigger, our country is full of 80 IQ latino subhumans because of your cut. Catholicism was the first globalist ideology. And it was the first universal cult who convinced their followers that niggers and other browns are human. I don't care about the Kike on the stick, your Church is filled with Jesuits cryptokikes, and protestants are even more jewish with the whole Israel thing. Is time we end abrahism, muslims are a cancer too. Meanwhile Japan is one of the best cultures and they don't care about the Kike on a stick.
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>>534716556
"Kill and subjugate all other nations and people with our religion because we're better than everyone else. Our Church seeks to control the minds of all humans."
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>>534720396
Spiritual boomer
Oldfag retard
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>>534710969
Japanese cant annunciate Portuguese.
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>>534721388
Using that language doesn't dishonor me, only yourself.

This is what modern ideologies (including fascism, communism, liberalism, capitalism, etc.) have done to new generations. Sad.
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>>534713447
Kys kike
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>>534710969
Read: Silence
by: Shudako Endo

(or if you really belonged here you would have done some googling after watching samurai champloo over 20 fucking years ago fake channel nigger)

(they wont let me post from safari without giving them an email verification, based on an ip range ban, bit they will let me post from firefox focus on iphone, and never get higher than 1pbtid no matter how many posts I have in a thread. Not saying this is a dangerous place, because fuck glowniggers, but I am saying they own the nginx instance and the db. suck my dick feds. just let people talk, and you will learn more that way. also abide the 4th amendment, it's part of your oath, I remember, I took it once, and haven't betrayed it. these kids aren't "incels" they're fucking geniuses. They could be our future, and all you can think of is how to score points toward promotions in a corrupt org. You make me sick.)
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>>534721982
forgot picrel
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>>534716243
look at the Philippines and tell me the japs were wrong to expel your missionaries and kill converts.
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>>534722296
Has anyone else noticed that if you take a picture for the board it is automatically rotated 45。counterclockwise when it comes out?
Why is that? It's a real bug in the platform. And it has to do with how long ago the pic was taken, and the type of photo.

t. freefag who has to do insane captchas and wait incredible times to post. sometimes retrying 10-30 times, because of deliberate programatic shutout.
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>>534713339
This guy gets it.
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>>534722316
this.
and veitnam with the french.
The more authoritarian resistence to catholicism, 'back in the day', the more high-trust the current culture.
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>>534711077
>Because of problems they had with the Portuguese and their missionaries.
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>>534722316
>look at the Philippines and tell me the japs were wrong to expel your missionaries and kill converts.
The Spanish recognized Japan as an advanced, cultured civilization. This was not the same situation as with the indigenous people of the Philippines. In any case, the problems of the Philippines today are the result of liberal influence (from the corrupt Masonic elites of the 19th century), American domination and capitalism.
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>>534722560
photos uploaded to 4chan are automatically stripped of exif data, which for photos taken with smartphones, typicallly has values for orientation of the image and also geolocation when the image was taken

4chan users kept doxxing themselves because modern smartphones are a privacy nightmare so 4chan strips exif data automatically before hosting the image

this is the same reason why there's no 'email' field on 4chan anymore, modern browsers are so anti-privacy, they would auto-populate the field with users saved email addresses

everything about modern computing is designed to doxx every single person that uses it, and sold to the user as convenience or a security feature, it is retarded.
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>>534722767
that's a very beautiful map
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>>534710969
After going to Netherlands I kind of understand.

Dutchies are very open, welcoming, and curious people. Think about it. You live your entire life never even knowing that White Men exist, and suddenly White Men roll up to your shores in ships like that and start babbling something in their incomprehensible language, looking around, asking you things that you can't even understand, and pointing at a bunch of stuff while also showing you weird stuff that they brought with them.
>>534715283
You are no different than Judas.
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>>534710969
Portuguese are darkies.
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>>534722658
>this.
>and veitnam with the french.
>The more authoritarian resistence to catholicism, 'back in the day', the more high-trust the current culture.
Catholics? The French? The France of Enlightment and Revolution?
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>>534710969
The Portuguese wouldn't stop trying to convert them
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>>534710969
>Why did the Japanese favour trade with the Dutch and not with the Portuguese
Because the Iberian union ruined their relationship as the Portuguese became more colonial/religion focused than mercantile which was a threat to the Shogun's power.
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>>534717127
>Virtually everyone...

Enough about amerimutts
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>>534710969
Cause the Dutch had no missionaries.

Catholic clergy doesn't marry so they could afford to spend a lifetime preaching in distant lands. The jesuits in particular were crazy and went anywhere even if they had to cross jungles or learn moonrunes.
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>>534722767
Based c*thocuck killers
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>>534722963
>Catholics? The French? The France of Enlightment and Revolution?
Vietnam was Napoleon III, not I.

Napoleon III aggressively pursued Catholic support for legitimacy in foreign campaigns, it's why he was able to be declared 'protector of Christians' in the Ottoman empire by the Pope.
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>>534719647
>By their fruits you will recognize them.
Correct, which is why every single catholic country is an unabashed shithole.
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>>534723264
Shut the fuck up amerimutt golem fatass.
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>>534723048
Pretty sure the Portuguese were the cause of the massacres of the Christians though
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>>534710969
The Portuguese tried to convert everyone to Christianity and interfered in Japanese power politics. Made powerful enemies in Japan. The Dutch exploited this. Convinced the Japanese to get rid of the Portuguese and their local allies and got exclusive trade rights in return.
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>>534710969
Because of (((Jesuits)))
and
>>534723048
>BTW, all dutch ships were funded by sephardic jews who hated the Portuguese and Spanish for kicking them out.
Based
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>>534710969
Dutch danced on crucifixes to prove they weren't christian and wouldn't attempt to influence their culture
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>>534710969
that's a whole lotta toothpaste flags on that ship
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>>534715552
Somehow we have hues who defend portugal here, even after getting raped and pillaged for solid 3 centuries.
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>>534724537
That was pretty Jewish of them
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>>534720466
>Chris is king
Gtfo gaijin. We don’t worship Jews here
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really stands to show that the only races capable of civilization are the deutch and japanese.



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