>I'll just use a VP- ACK!
The EU is a homosexual, anti semetic soviet union
>age verificationAs if they give a single shit about age.It's creepy that framing it this way has worked to convince so many people.
>>534725052EU leaders are all criminals and traitors. They should be jailed for life.The EU is a bureaucratic socialist hellhole. It should be dissolved!
>>534725052lol okay euroniggers arrest the epstein associates then suck my dick faggots yeah these headasses looooove kids
>>534725140>anti semeticRecent Isreal criiticism on social media is one of the reasons they're pushing this.
>>534725052every time I read about governments pushing for age verification to protect children I get a cortisol spike. Everyone knows this is nothing but an excuse for more control.
>>534725847yeah everybody knows. doesn't seem to change anything is it? they know they can do everything they want now, who's going to stop it? lol
>>534725847Until the people pushing for such things suffer actual consequences they will not stop.
>>534725052
>>534725999The sword of damocles has been bolted into the ceiling securely. It needs to dangle loosely once again.
>>534725052Where does the age verifcation stop. They'll want to bake it into the operating systems next
tick tock
>>534726142quite the conundrum since they really wedged it in there now
They can make any laws they likr -people will still do whatever the fuck they want
>>534725847Same, but you got to learn to stop worrying and instead start adapting
>>534726219They want to destroy the internet completely so you can't post how you don't like censorship, niggers and living standard getting worse every year.I wish the US could fuck up the EU so it collapses, but why would they do it? Be it chink involvement or not, EU is an imploding predatory pseudo- state, robbing its member countries. Give it a decade and Brussels will turn Europe into a dying, completely irrelevant shithole.
>>534726352doubt
>>534725052Won't this just lead to VPNs moving to Mullvad style "accounts" where they can have little to no information on you as a customer at all?>>534726219It won't stop until they're openly watching literally everything you do. New computers will become virtually impossible to operate without an internet connection, keyloggers, screen recording and AI file analysis running at all times to """protect children""".
>>534726565This all points out to how they are losing global relevance, so now they are going to focus on keeping their power domestically by clamping down on their citizens
There are alternatives to VPNs.
We're probably 5 to 10 years away from internet becoming completely unusable garbage unless you're fine with your government knowing your every post, every site visit and every fap. The final nail in the coffin will be a law asking operating systems to demand the said digital ID and an online connection in order to work. Anyone with a 3 digit IQ knows that they don't do it to protect the children, but to stop the radicalisation against the powers that be through censorship - powers that have abandoned the wellbeing of nations and their common people for the sake of globalism and infinite profits.
>>534727397I think something is going to fucking snap in 5-10 years minimum
>>534725052Fuck.I mean, we'll use them. People still use them everywhere that they're illegal. It's just fucking annoying that our internet is going to be like in China, Iran etc, those places the authorities always said are "bad" and we are "free" jflI think what's most important about this is that 4chan's admin, that new gook moot I think, unless it was sold again, starts allowing VPNs, otherwise no europoor will be able to be on 4chan
if they make "the internet" unusable,there are other networks to live on.zeronet, for example.if it's decentralized, then there's nothing they can do.it's like making a law that the tide can't rise, lol.
>>534727747The protocol you run on doesn't matter, you're running on the world wide web right now but the internet is the infrastructure, you're still running though their servers, their DNS, their checkpoints all of that can be surveilled easily.
>>534727397High IQ. The internet is becoming a big problem for them. The entire rise of the far right is behind it.All the zoomers are basically nazis. I mean, sure, social media is very dishonest about this, as they show you comments and posts of people who agree with you more, but, I just saw a tiktok video basically saying the holocaust is made up, and it had tens of thousands of likes. They also keep praising Franco, etc. Kids were not like that when I was their age.This is a big problem of course for the bureaucrats. I think if they censor everything it will just radicalize people more, but right now, I think they see it as "we have a problem that's coming from the internet" so they want to control the internet.I hope most people will just start using VPNs even if they make them illegal.>>534727538Nothing's gonna snap. Normies can take and get used to A LOT, unfortunately.
>>534725052>>534725069They can't stop anyone from renting a virtual server and installing Wireguard.
>>534727860>b b but, the infrastructure!concern trolling.their infrastructure couldn't stop bitcoin, anon.it sure as fuck couldn't stop monero.zeronet is basically monero.it's everywhere, so it's nowhere.who would they serve supboenas to?yeah, you don't know what you're talking about.
>>534727860you can run your own servers and DNS. that is literally what the internet was designed to do: be decentralized. just because Faceberg puts up restrictions doesn't mean you're locked out of the world. the web and internet are more than a handful of social media sites/apps.
>>534726746>Certainty
How do people this stupid get to give their opinion on anything?Here's what is required to stop 'vpn':- shut down powergrid- prevent any kind of power generation
>>534727397And that's a good thing.Then we will be taking action out in the world instead of talking about it.
>>534728244i wish they did thisno more taxes, no more system, no more state, and then we can rebuild without those parasites
>>534725052TOR, MOTHERFUCKERS!
>>534727397We'll just make internet 2 with blackjack and hookers bro, it will be fiiiiiine
>>534728244Can't ISPs tell whether you're connecting to VPN server?
>>534728149>>534728244illegal data traffic, they either block it either come knocking at your door.you could probably find some obscure service but most large VPN companies have public lists with their servers IPs, which all major websites already use. that's how they know you are on VPN, even 4chinz. ever wondered how they know you on VPN?if websites know you on VPN so can your ISP. you need to initiate the tunnel to some fucking IP
>>534725052I like this kind of stuff because it encourages that sector of techies (you know the ones) to find and develop workarounds.
>>534725052They ain't going to be able to enforce anything so let the old idiots pretend to be relevant while the rest of us continue to ignore them.
>>534725052>>534725069This sort of bureaucratic idiocy is why we left.
>>534728466eu is terrible
>>534725052>literally bringing in digital tyranny by using the most stereotypical way imaginable, "PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN"Rogues and villains will be the heroes of the future. We are close to entering an era of banditry on a scale never even imagined before.
>>534728568And your politicians decided to be even worse
>>534725052>still online
>>534728568UK, bastion of privacy and liberty...
>>534725052The final loophole is when we go out into the world and destroy the infrastructure. Once the internet no longer serves us, we will burn it down.
>>534728074Good luck with the hundreds of billions required to set up everything and the trillions required to upkeep it.
>>534728568Oh fuck off you guys are somehow even worse than us on this.
>>534725052Porn websites are being shutdown and now they’re banning VPNs? This is bullshit!
>>534725361EU commission cannot be a traitor, because it is supra nation at it's foundation, that is why it is so hostile and authoritarian to the citizens.These are all power plays to remove power from the nation states.
>>534725847ObviouslyThe people who just got caught eating and fucking kids now want to know where the kids are
>>534728708((their)) idea is that you will be too sickly to do that with all the vaxxxesand eventually you will be replaced with slave jeet race
>>534728790I have a vax and booster and I can overpower most people
We should not forget that "platforms" like Twitter, Amazon or Goolag's Youtube, and the states and supranational organisations are basically different branches of the same mafia.
>>534728396tor is slow as shit>>534728442yes but some vpns have a way around it
>>534728790The elites are so retarded. Imagine wanting to rule over and live among the lowest form of life. Don't the elites realize that eventually Jeets will be the ones making their food.
>>534728730inernational players will see a gap in the market and provide these services if they can .. there is a geopolitical element to this, other nations hostile to the EU may see it as an opportunity and be happy to host and protect EU users privacy .. ofc it woulf rely on being outside money and banking controls so bitcoin or other crypto need to pay for the services for those inside the EU.
>>534728684not threatening to real power>>534728598everywhere where power imbalance exists eventually goes there. it's...naturalif I'd had to guess I'd say technology has made older governing systems obsolete, or hackable, or not adequate anymore. not sure why people expect they can hold up in the face of new technological advancements.
>>534726139Based Armstrong and Miller reference.
>>534728922The thing is, fren, the authorities live in an echo chamber of people who get paid to agree with them.Sometimes people act like its all game theory. "They have their own bosses in the shadows who have a master plan", "They do this as a power play and to make us give up", and while there's obviously truth to these things, the authorities also have feelings they act on and understanding those also explains things.They think they ARE democracy, because democracy means to do what the people want, and they represent the people. So their will is democracy and anyone who disagrees is an enemy of "the people". They think Europe is a garden due to their mandates and that the rest of the world is a dump, which we would be without them. And they live in an echo chamber that validates all this.
>>534728653exactly, don't know why this idiot is running his mouth
>>534728773Details...They should rot in a jail cell for the next 50 years.
>>534728897>>yes but some vpns have a way around iteven if they block 99% of less savvy users, it's a win for them.
>>534728922As to the Jeets.They do not respect individual people's will, or personality. Because like I said, they are "the people". So they do not see how jeets would be any different. After all, they know better and can dictate everything, so who cares if the masses lose 20 IQ avg points kek
>>534725052Do children have read-access to VPNs? When did kikes start giving credit cards to children so they could purchase a subscription?
all that can be seen in this thread is bunch of potential problematic individuals who were most likely involved in heavy vaccine denial and misinformation spreading and all that was possible due to not being held for their highly ignorant statementsluckily most honourable and benevolent part of society, public servants, have finally undertaken steps to quell such vile and highly terrifyingly horrible scum form ever expressing their views once and for allwhat about this new hentai virus? you are already mocking it. serves you well.also when parents are not at home at least their children will be monitoring and ensured safety if need be
>>534729314basically, plus 4chan doesn't allow vpns. we're fuckedand the boomers will keep voting for the two big right/left parties that are the same and take turns in power (its the same in every country), and wont have a problem increasing taxes more and more as usual or face any backlash
>>534725052But a child can't buy a VPN so why is this considered a loophole?
>>534728730A Linux VPS can be had for $5 per month. The software is free and open source. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WireGuard
>>534729370>due to not being held***accountableit is only fair just, ethics-driven free-world we are living in.
>fairin this just
>>534728442>>534728897>>534729314https://github.com/v2fly/v2ray-corehttps://github.com/ClusterM/wg-obfuscator
>>534729273>>534729354they pretend they do not hear the "bro you deanonymizing EVERYONE, think of something else more targeted to kids" which is telling of the underlying motive. that's why I do not trust them on this.it is once more one of those "oops we're too old to understand these things, it is what it is", after it passes and fucks shit up for everyone. it always happens like this for high stakes laws like these, they pretend they don't hear your complains until after the law passes. they literally pretend there's no issue, totally not interested in any other way of "protecting" the kids. they're going for what empowers them and takes power from everyone else. that's the tell anon, that's how you know they know very well what they are doing, and why.
>>534727078They’re successfully forcing it in most countries, so they still obviously have enough power to invade or destroy them, that’s why those threats are working. I wonder if countries will reverse this if the west ever truly loses its grip?
>>534725052Good. Fuck Euroniggers.
>>534729551once the law passes you have no idea just how suddenly they'll become ultra competent in figuring out how to use the law to block any other way you can go around it. they'll become instant networking specialists going after every single workaround.but before the laws passes they're acting like old folk who don't really understand your technical arguments
>>534728442A vpn is literally just a computer you connect to that connects to another computer. That's what the internet IS. Now that satellite internet exists a country can't even shut it down by turning off the power grid. People with power connecting can be found like how Iran hunted down the mossad agitators after turning off their internet.
>>534729612>I wonder if countries will reverse thislel
>>534726322Glowniggers should disembowel themselves on faceberg Livestream like s reverse tarrant
>EU memeflag thinks he is in a position of strength
>>534725052the free and open internet is dead, 'anon'
>>534729950huh? I am saying exactly the reverse, we can't do shit about it. what can we do? vote harder?
>>534726322Kek good luck charging a vpn in Mexico for a crime in Utah fuckin faggotz.
>>534728833Congratulations on winning the special Olympics anonI'm sorry that happened (or I'm happy for you)
>>534729737Governments don't have secret alien DPI tech. We have the same tools they do. At the packet level, this is basically white noise. Even Russia and China can't detect it. >>534729782
>>534729102are they addicted to the feeling like a junky?
>>534725052We're going to need to do something about communists.
>Just dox yourself to watch porn bro!For what purpose?
>>534730409Just easiest entry point for the average retard Joe.
>>534730341ye but you'd be doing illegal shit and you'd have to keep up with tech and shit. most people won't.there will always be a few that will be able to work around it but that will become irrelevant as far as they are concerned, plus you'll always have to risk it. for all intents and purposes it will create "order" in online *free* speech>>534730366power selects for that so probably? I don't know
>>534730502>illegal shitit's not illegal to connect two computers that you own together via a network
>>534726761At which point people will start voluntarily choosing to disconnect and go full-analog.Glowies don't realize how determined people are not to be constantly fucking spied on.
>>534725052why are Europeans like this? freedom scares them or summ?
>>534725052Good. Free and democratic Europeans should be protected from the evil Russian propaganda.
>>534730583it will probably be illegal to use certain online services if you cannot be tracked or some shit.not sure how it is in US but here it's illegal to encrypt radio comms via open bands radio. they must see/hear everything, you are not allowed to encrypt your radio communications. not talking about 2.4ghz and computer shit, like walkie talkies and stuff. there's actual laws for it, so I presume they'll do something similarcan't they whitelist certain IPs for like banking services and that kind of stuff and mandate everything else be open?
>>534726219>They'll want to bake it into the operating systems nextNext?? They're already doing that
>>534725052>we can create a totalitarian surveillance state where megacorps and the government monitor every single thing you say, do and think>or we can just tell the Jews to fuck off
>>534728620I am struggling with this. I too feel my personal call to evil. How do I discern the truth?
>>534726322Chriggers are so unbelievably gay and retarded.
>>534730855>>we can create a totalitarian surveillance state where megacorps and the government monitor every single thing you say, do and thinkthis is the case for a while. remember how back in 2020 they had realtime online talk analysis and they could instantly change/intervene in any discussion? like tens of replies attacking whenever someone posted anything going against the narrative? that was 6 years ago.so right now this thread is probably on the radar of tens of palantir employees being flagged by their AIs with lists of ways it can be derailed if it starts building some sentiment that it can really do some harm to whatever the fuck they are planning kek
>>534730767>not sure how it is in US but here it's illegal to encrypt radio comms via open bands radionot on ISM bands! that's why LoRa/Meshtastic/Meshcore works everywhere>online servicesThese are just basic VPS providers. There are thousands of them, and many take crypto. It's trivial to spin up a $5 VPS and set up Wireguard. You can even get preconfigured images for this. Seriously, I know what I'm talking about. They can't make SSL/TLS illegal, and they can't make networking illegal. It would break everything, from banks to shopping. Instead of whining and doomposting, talk to your friends and split the cost of a VPS. It's pocket change. Once you learn, teach everyone you know or sell them your services (discreetly). Start learning this stuff because it will help you in the future and also lead to jobs and business opportunities. Ask >>>/g/ for help or use an LLM to put together instructions and troubleshoot. Learn Linux and use it, especially with the Windows bullshit going on. It will save your ass. t. veteran sysadmin & amateur radio operator
>>534725052Remember when fags used to praise the EU for protecting privacy? Turns out nothing matters other than the demands of kikes.Rights, liberty, and privacy are all secondary to what kikes want.
>>534725052>Put an Estonian syphilitic whore in power>Get Soviet Union 2.0.Giving representation to Eastern Europe """democracies""" was a mistake.
>>534730618Retard, Utah just passed a law against VPN usage. Other states have similar laws waiting to be passed. All to "protect the children" (kikes).
>>534730767>can't they whitelist certain IPs for like banking services and that kind of stuff and mandate everything else be open?No, they can't. It might work for a tiny place like the DPRK but it can't work anywhere else. Also, the traffic generated by these obfuscating tools isn't encrypted. It's just arbitrary data. SSL/TLS can be identified as encrypted traffic, as can raw Wireguard, but something like shadowsocks appears as just UDP packets. There's no discernible pattern or header. Learn how to use Wireguard and you'll see for yourself.
>>534731384Aren't the Jews those supposed to be pushing porn?
China tried and failedNorth Korea tried and failedRussia is trying and failingLatest, Iran tries and failsYou want to gestapo the people?Cut internet all together. As in bring back the dark ages where the biggest social circle people had was their town of birth..Anything less and there is always a loophole.Either you have internet or you don't, there's no middle ground euro dictators..
>>534731442bro won't the kind of traffic stand out from any other normie browsing facebook/insta/tiktok? ffs I just wanted to shitpost on 4chinz
You're paying for your internet, your VPN...Most likely you're over 18.. F OFF ALREADY
>>534731515No, I keep telling you this but you just don't listen. Go learn. Here is some video content for your brainrotted asshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DaXNgWRxS-Y