Just how good is getting high with fentanyl that these people are willing to lose it all for a hit? I don't get the appeal of doing drugs so I can't really tell how good it must be.
>>534749937The appeal is losing it all. They are in debt and fucking the bank.
>>534749937How does he do that
>>534749937>I don't get the appeal of doing drugsit makes you feel really good man.
>>534749937they gave me a low dose of fent at the hospital.normally I'm stressed and miserable from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep.But I felt completely content and peaceful for the first time in years. I wish I felt like that all the time.It doesn't make you "happy", I was just peaceful, I couldn't stress my self out or focus on my failures if i tired.
>>534750292>I was just peaceful, I couldn't stress my self out or focus on my failures if i tiredsounds like a preview of what heaven feels like
>>534750292>dude why is diet heroin so good bro
>>534749937Just stop breething. You’ll know
Not going through withdrawals is what makes them want to use again (extreme stomach discomfort, shitting your pants, flu like symptoms, cold sweats). I'm very grateful to have never known these evils
>>534750292>I wish I felt like that all the time.yeah this is attraction of course, especially if you're consistently feeling crap. i heard it put like this once - the 'normal' person usually feels around '100' in terms of contentment, mood etc with some lows and highs depending. But, some people are always much lower than 100. wen they take some drugs, they maybe get to 100 or just above and think its amazing. dont know if thats a great picture but in some ways its makes sense. knew a guy who was doing acid all the time and when he was up he'd say to me that THIS (relaxed, caring, happy, understanding etc etc) is how he wanted to be all the time but couldn't
>>534750471yeah for sure thats the other side of it and the cycle that catches a lot of people. even coming off a couple days drinking can feel like shit (anxiety, restlessness etc). ive read that withdrawls are some what exaggerated though, especially for heroin. theres a kind of self interested desire to make them seem much worse than they are.
>>534750604>withdrawls are some what exaggerated thoughNot trying to make this my personal blog but I was addicted to 7oh (probably nowhere close heroin or fentanyl) spending like 150 a day and was scared of getting off of it because others were using suboxone to get through withdrawals. I blew through my paycheck in 5 days to where it was impossible buy it anymore. By day 2 I felt great again.
>>534750292Just learn to live with the seething and misery and eventually you wont want to be happy
>>534751060interesting. from what i can tell, serious alcohol withdrawals sounds about the worst. people regularly die from that. not so for heroin etc, least so far as i know.
>>534750292>>534751115happiness is having projects and things to do so you don't have time to think about whether or not you are happy
>>534751201Nobody does directly from ANY substance abstinence. It's all in their head how they need it and they inflict the damage on themselves. It's not like their bodies form some new metabolic pathway that directly requires a constant supply of their chemical of choice or else they die. Fucking retarded. I hate drug addicts more than anything.
>>534751115>you wont want to be happyThis is how I quit booze. I don't want to feel good ever again in this shit world.
>>534749937Doesn't that stance affect his circulation?Not to mention the lower back strain and spinal deformation.
>>534751609retard, delirium tremens does infact kill alcoholics who withdraw suddenly
>>534749937>street yoga lessons truly the first world is amazing
>>534751770>everyone kneeling out of respect.jpg
>>534751609coming off long term heavy alcohol use definitely kills people.
>>534749937Would it be immoral for me to push him over like a sleeping cow?Would it be illegal for me to run up and administer NarCan up his nostril an then run away?Serious replies only, pls.
>>534752797best to leave peaking junkies stand
>>534749937I'm from Delaware. Lot of people here are junkies and I even pissed off a dotheaded doctor woman by telling her that if I were a doctor like her, I'd let every junkie in the ER perish. She called security on me lmao fucking jeet bitch
>>534750292I was hospitalized one time back in 2012 and they gave me dilaudid and ativan together. I was higher than the fucking space shuttle. i loved it.
>>534751609>booze makes heart go slower>heart starts beating faster to compensate after being boozed 24/7 for years>stop the booze>suddenly the heart is beating too fast>seize out
>>534749937>how good is it?Not very. They aren't coming back for more because it was so good, they're coming back for more because it is so addictive and they feel like shit without it.
>>534751060i had a long term dependency on klonopin 1mg for like 10 years straight because my doctors kept giving it to me. and i took it and took it and took it. I don't even really remember much of the past decade at all.
>>534751609Retard
>>534753076cant say what fent is like but this couldnt be more wrong when it comes to heroin, its by far the greatest fucking feeling you could ever achieve, nothing you can do sober is remotely comparable
>>534749937Amazing yoga
>>534753198>its by far the greatest fucking feeling you could ever achievemeth is better
>>534749937Opiates, at a fall out dose, or "beyond nodding off" so to speak is a state of bliss where you lose every single desire you've ever had, it's almost a hallucinating state where you're in a mind state where you've done everything right, and have created safe spots that reassure you that you're in good position with your life and family. There is no pain and there is no wanting. You don't thirst or hunger. You just need to keep in this state of you enter the opposite x10It doesn't have the "wheels" heroin had, it's less feeling good physically, but you can achieve that fall out state much quicker
>>534751201Stop heavy booze and the demons appear.They encourage you to kill yourself, tell you you're useless..they are some kind of energy takers.
gonna wreck myself on this shit when the old man passes away
>>534749937its an opiate higha rly rly stupidly strong onebasically the most physically and mentally addictive thing you can do.also very few ppl other than like literal streetkids are STARTING on IV fent or tranq. plenty of ppl are just ppl that got hooked on pain meds after breaking their arm or something
>>534750292>normally I'm stressed and miserable from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep.The sun will do that to a white man.
>>534753516ive heard stuff like that in what others have said. this one guy kept seeing hordes of tiny devils running around the room and they used to attack him and sing songs about how much of a failure he was etc. crazy shit. longest ive ever drunk in a row is 3 days and even coming off that i start to get some visual effects and anxiety. dont even want to imagine what coming off months of constant drunkenness would be like.
>>534753599im interested in trying it for a while just to see how addictive it really is. i think it really come down to the person. a lot of people cant even fast for a couple days.
>>5347537523 of them sitting on a wardrobe door about the size of crows.Nasty looking little goblin shites, don't become a doggie or a drunk.If you need a high smoke a little weed.
>>534753599What's weird is that you can even see working class smoking fent, and unlike heroin where you might dose like 2-3 times a day and get to work and be happy, you smoke like 10-20 blues a day. They are like $4-5 each if you buy them in packs of 100. One blue pill smoked is equivalent to like .5 of heroin IV.
>>534753797Retard
>>534754015So think of it like this, heroin users woke up one day and couldn't find any heroin in the streets. It was crazy how it disappeared in less than a week nobody had it. Fentanyl pops up, instead of spending $8 for a .1 of heroin (most average addicts needed .2 shots) they spend $5 on 1 pill that equates to .5 dose of heroin, so a $30 saving for a much more intense high
>>534753516>>534753752this has happened to me twice its the delirium tremons and I saw demonic faces laughing at me and they were also in like a mocking cartoon, it was all when I closed my eyes but I could still "hear" them. When forcing my eyes open I couldn't actually see anything really it wasn't like a hallucination the way you'd imagine Both times this was after months/years of the equivalent of around 3-5 bottles of wine a day
>>534753991i just keep the drinking down to no more than 2 days with a week in between. any more and no good comes of it.>>534754154thats not an argument. what if i just want adventures in will power?
>>534754201Fuck heavy drink, I will ocassionally have a beer now.
>>534753198fent is specifically less euphoric than heroinits all nod, no blankie. at least thats what ive heard talking to dopefiends. and im plenty fine just leaving that as my surrogate opinion lol>>534753797no its pretty much all humans, period. youre not the exception.because everyone in basically every culture has been using opiates of some sort for thousands of years. it is a chemical that literally evolved alongside us in order to keep us shackled to it. and fent is a modern nightmare version of that, somewhere on the order of 100x stronger per volumemoreover, fent is just simply too strong to start out on with no tolerance. and the niggers cutting it dgaf, so you accidentally get the wrong corner of the bag? its lights tf out forever. unless someone has a narcan shot handy. even the way it metabolizes (that being twice, over aprox 45mins) is sinister and seemingly designed to kill even career junkies
>>534754201yeah thats quite a bit of drink. from what i can tell, the visual effects (at least for me) seem to be associated with stuff (vein patterns, floaters etc) already in my eye. they do become more visible with closed eyes but still appear with open eyes but more as faint impressions or quick flashes like something you see out the corner of your eye.hope you're staying off the booze these days mate. coming off that much can end you.
>>534754234>what if i just want adventures in will power?
>>534754154it's the modern version of a rite of passage. let him cook
>>534750227its easier to quit drugs that take 30-40 minutes to kick in. drugs that hit the bloodstream and work immediately are as addicting as an orgasm, even if the total pleasure is the samenever inject anything. pills only ideally
>>534754333>youre not the exception.thats not what im saying at all. but for sure i hear different things from different people about what withdrawals are like for them. i knew a couple people who did heroin and then just stopped, no big deal. same with everything from smoking cigarettes to booze and so on, while for others it sounds like an impossible and tortuous task.
>>534754452>are as addicting as an orgasmis that all?
>>534749937its only good if you already have nothing. Its a way to turn your suffering off
>>534754300I just avoid it now, its the losing control that is the thing i like about it so its just retarded to even start for me >>534754377Checked and yeah i have floaters a lot and I'm fairly certain my vision just blacks out for like a millisecond every now and then, like I think the lights are going off idk it's weird And you too, good luck
>>534754015>>534754174its because theyre chasing the euphoria that simply isnt there anymore.thats my theory at leastpretty sick stuffid like to personally flay alive every chinaman responsible for this faggotry
>>534754491>i hear different things from different people about what withdrawals are like for themWhy would you want to do this, retard?
I did some yesterday The anesthesiologist gave it to meI had a nice nap
>>534749937It is not that opiate high is so good, it is that the withdrawal is so dangerous and painful you can literally die from it without treatment. The first hit is nice, but then when it wears off you get physically ill until you are high again. You will never feel as good as the first hit ever again. That is why they call it "chasing the dragon."
>>534754654Yea it's china and mexico, not like Venezuela or any other cartels that bring amphetamines to Europe like cocaine, but Mexicans right on the other side of texas that do it, and they're working class family Mexicans that think it's funny
>>534754574>that piclol. or my phone to i can drunk call people like a total asshole.>>534754706to annoy faggots like you
>>534754654>chinaman responsible for this faggotryyou mean the CIA right?
>>534749937test
>>534753599I got prescribed oxy for a minor neck fracture. They told me that I wasn't taking enough for addiction to be a problem. They were wrong. It was good I quit taking them early so I had a few pills left to taper off gradually because I never wanted to kill someone so badly as the morning after I quit. I wonder if that's how a lot of people get hooked. If suddenly stopping when they're out because the doctor said it was fine and then being unable to get more creates a stronger desire for it.
>>534754174And in certain areas the pills are even cheaper. It's insane. But yeah it's crazy how fast heroin was swapped out for fentanyl which felt almost like it happened overnight but once the addicts felt the fent high, those heroin users never looked back
>>534754491Those people are lying to you. They are also probably still doing opiates in secret. Addicts are pretty much lying all the time.
>>534754763>it is that the withdrawal is so dangerous and painful you can literally die from it without treatmentit's technically possible to die from the blood pressure elevation if you're already at risk, but realistically, nobody really dies from opiate withdrawaleven death from alcohol withdrawal is extremely rare, yet people always talk about how deadly it is
>>534754807>to annoy faggots like youNice, enjoy.
>>534749937This is what they see every time the get high
>>534749937>>534751321Substance abuse is born of weakness.
>>534754807I am guilty of that too, terrible times
>>534754860This is exactly how the majority of people get hooked. And if you dive the rabbit hole of who is behind the opiate crisis, you will find the (((usual suspects))) who created it.
>>534749937I didn’t think this was a real thing until I got off the metro north at 125th street and saw it for myself.
>>534751321No one cares about your shitty projects, which are cringe, and you should find real joy in life such as beautiful women and fun substances
>>534749937Just go to the dispo and get a high-THC strain to simulate it. If you go beyond that, you'll just end up a picrel here. Many such cases.
>>534750131fent makes the leg muscles become rigid. they want to fall down but can't, so they end up looking like this.
>>534754817noi mean the chinamen and their subservient spicnigger dogs that are bringing it here and profiting billions off of mass death that rivals most wars combinedevery single one of them should be purged from this earth in as painful a way as is possibleback when i was a kid it was just the afghani warlords and bacha bazzi addicts the US was propping up in opposition to the taliban. but at least those faggots actually sold you real heroin. it wasnt some russian roulette fucking crapshoot where even a career junkie gets wasted
>>534754654>"chinaman"Shalom!
>>534754860I know someone who got hooked and ultimately died because of it. He was a hero initially. He broke up a fight between a girl and a man with a knife. Well man with knife stabbed him in the arm. DEEP. Apparently hitting a nerve. Even tho the wound healed. The pain remained. All of a sudden the doctor cut him off from the pain meds he was legally prescribed. So he went to the streets and found fentanyl. X amount of years later he dies from sepsis after getting an infection in his arm, which was painful but as a junkie you just take more junk and ignore it. Very sad story. It was too late by the time he went to the hospital. The infection was everywhere.
>>534751321>happiness is having projects and things to do so you don't have time to think about whether or not you are happyThis statement is mostly correct. Except having responsibilities, chores, a job, etc isn't happiness...Its just something to keep you from having time/energy to dwell on all the things that make you unhappy. It is my contention that I could cure all depression by dropping the person off in Africa. Depression is a modern/first world problem. When you are dropped in the black heart of Africa, and you are trying to find any drinking water free of 50 different parasites and diseases, and you're trying to avoid becoming prey to a lion or some venomous snake, and are desperately looking for something, anything with enough calories to keep your soul in your body, you will cease being depressed. I 100% guarantee this cure.
>>534749937I tried a low dose of opium once and it was really great. Butterflies in the stomach like being in love, joy and complete relaxation, but also very heavy and unable to move.
>>534755368B8
>>534754915Addicts will rationalize their addictions any way they can, including making statements diminishing the the risks like this one. If withdrawal from a substance requires in-patient hospital care, maybe just don't do the substance.
>>534755192>The infection was everywhere.that is sad, and an apt picture of countries with too many muzzies, niggers and jeets in them.
>>534755441addicts are the ones rationalizing their addiction by exaggerating how dangerous quitting is>oh man it's just too deadly and complicated to quit, guess i'll just keep my addiction going. woe is me woe is metry using your brain a little bit. it's there for a reason, trust me.
>>534755026Bullshit. I'm so sick of hearing that it's practically inevitable that anyone prescribed a 30 day supply of fucking Vicodin are fated to become junkies. If that's true then like 80% of the population would be drug addicts or ODed and dead. This is the shit the (((medical community))) puts out as scare tactics/propaganda so they can have an excuse to make ppl suffer and give shitty medical care. Their goal is for the populace to be miserable and suffering, because miserable ppl who are in pain and suffering lose all hope, give up, and are easier to control. It's amazing how celebrities and politicians somehow manage to get opiates when they need them...decent medical care is not for the peasants like us.
>>534749937Gotta catch that silly dragon
>>534749937Fentynal fold
>>534750471Not really desu, the physical withdrawal goes away after a week or 2, its remembering the feeling of pure bliss that brings you back, I've been off opiods for over 8 months and I'm still thinking about it
>>534755472>that is sad, and an apt picture of countries with too many muzzies, niggers and jeets in them.Just say non whites. Pretty much all of the non whites want whites gone.
>>534755746Go do healthy physical stuff. It gets better. You got this. Don't look back anon. Reconnect with nature... GO FISHING /Thread
>>534749937ex junky it feels really good but then you start getting dope sick and things spiral pretty quick from there, best to avoid
>>534749937China's greatest weapon to the America people
>>534749937Idk but the world is hell right now and I am so alone and have no friends. Im not abrasive or rude, Im just meek and nice. I just want out of thisI want to be like those peopleSo far awayThat looks so comfy
>>534755825fair enough
>>534749937Typical retard post from someone who has had too good of a life are you a woman? They don't care about dying you cretin nobody does fent for the fun of it
>>534749937Idk why they just don't kill themselves
>>534755954it was pretty bad before fentanyl we are like 35 years into this epidemic and fentanyl didnt really come around til like 2012ish
>>534750292They gave me fent once when I broke my arm, fent felt like a cage of quietness but it was in no way euphoric
>>534756115Why aren't you lmao? $50 says you've never seen a vagina
>>534755968>I am so alone and have no friendsme2
>>534749937The stand user could be anyone
>>534756128There is no opioid/benzo epidemic. It's NWO garbage to exercise more control over your personal freeeoms. Enjoy tylenol and ibuprofen after a surgery cause they couldn't prescribe you a real painkiller due to the DEA lmao
>>534756220Good one faggot
Here's a solution to the "drug problem": decriminalize opiates and distribute free fentanyl to homeless people.>but what about da children thing about muh crotch spawn whaaaaaaFuck your kid, trash takes itself out
>>534751201I tapered off SSRIs after 20 years of use. Took me a year to taper. The last 5mg taper and post zero syndrome almost killed me. The six months after were horrific with the three months after being the worst. I have been clean 2 years 4months now.
>>534751609Fucking idiot
>>534749937Why do they contort in weird positions like that?
>>534753090That’s how I felt the first year clean from SSRI use. I don’t remember that year at all
>>534749937>I don't get the appeal of doing drugs so I can't really tell how good it must be.You live in Chile and haven't even done coke? Get out there mate! Enjoy your life.
>>534756518What made you stop after such long use? I think a footballer/coach drove his car into a tree after he stopped taking them
>>534750292I got oxy for wisdom teeth and felt the same way, just the benefit of a few hours a day where I dont have worry about anything.
>>534756518what did it feel like as you were coming off those things?
>>534756592I'm being serious here, dude. I don't remember much of my twenties. I'm 34 now. Don't ever go on a benzo. It'll ruin your fucking life.
>>534755050you are, spiritually speaking, a nigger
>>534756568opiods make you kind of eepy, but that's also how they kill you cause you pass out and stop breathing
>>534749937So to enjoy drugs and alcohol is ... #1. something must be fucked up in your life#2. you can't do anything to un-fuck that thing in your lifeIf your life is REALLY fucked up fentanyl is going to help you not think about it. No one is going to "lose it all" for a hit, they have a slow downward spiral and opioids / amphetamines are typically one of those levels on their way down to being some kind of toothless bum.
>>534757575>So to enjoy drugs and alcohol is ...>#1. something must be fucked up in your lifei dont agree. we all went out drinking and clubbing as 17-20 year olds. the ones that didn't were generally the shut ins with no friends.
>>534750292Just meditate.https://youtu.be/irVKg2csHSc
>>534755090NoThey do it on purpose to keep themselves awake, because opiates like fent really make you nod off to sleep but sleeping through a high is a huge waste. So they force themselves to stand up, so that they stay awake by nature of nearly falling over and catching themselves over and over.
>>534757840now that i didn't know.
>>534756568They must be good at Twister
>>534757175We are all just niggers but some are more developedOnly the top 5% of the population do meaningful projectsAll the larpers are embarrassing themselvesPeople who talk about their projects are all larpersReal projects, the guy running them doesn’t talk he just quietly does
>>534750040Holy based
>>534749937I don't understand how they keep balance??
>>534749937its an opiod, thats like asking why so many people got addicted to oxycotin pills aka hillbilly-heroinmakes you feel at ease, they escalated from some lower gateway shittier tier drug (ethanol is the main starter)avoid using unless you need it for medical purpose, otherwise you'll be shit out of luck for pain management options
>>534753752>tiny devils running around the room and they used to attack him and sing songs about how much of a failure he was etcWere they wrong?Sounds like the Angelic Vision seen from the perspective of someone in Hell.
>>534750227It's evil and it mimicks a feeling you get in deep meditation
>>534749937I'd imagine some people that have lost it all just seek comfort in drugs, it's fast, feels good and makes you forget. The lower you fall the harder it is to get up it's an evil spiral.
>>534750356I was thinking about this the other day, if there is an afterlife of individuality then I imagine the default sense of being would feel like being smacked on opiate without that mental cloud
I was addicted to fentanyl and it doesn't feel that good in the beginning it just sort of numbed me and made me relaxed.Funnily enough the best it ever felt was when I was the deepest in the addiction because going from sober to high felt unreal. Going from such a low to feeling at peace really makes your brain think the drug is the most important thing in the worldThough eventually you have to come back to reality and that is always hellish. Going through withdrawals felt like I got hit by a train and broke all my bones. Took over a week to be able to feel somewhat comfortable in my own skin.Don't recommend, fuck drugs
>>534757699>drinking and clubbing as 17-20 year oldsThats super illegal in the US, so not really even an option. Not to mention most places don't have night clubs. Also, drinking socially is not the same thing is not the same as enjoying drug and alcohol abuse.
>>534758471>feeling true contentment is evilL’chaim rabbi
>>534758453>were they wrong?no way to be sure>>534758596>Going from such a low to feeling at peace really makes your brain think the drug is the most important thing in the worldyeah, that relief of pain is everything. >>534758581i agree. so much of what we do are attempts to reach that pre-fall, post-resurrection state.
In the 2000s, the Jewish Sackler family got millions of people hooked on extremely addictive oxycontin which was suddenly restricted leaving people desperately addicted. Instead of paying $80 for a pill they can pay $8 for a bag of fentanyl for the same effect.
>>534758718yeah i know the age laws are different but it just shifts that stage a bit later. we were definitely abusing alcohol and other stuff, but were normal young guys just out for for the nights.i know you mean alcoholism though.
