Whats the point when youre a childless man?I work with men in their 40s and 50s that dont have children.These men are average looking, normally dressed, make a decent income, drive a normal car. Are they mentally ill? I cant grasp what drives a 52yo childless man to wake up and go about his day knowing he has no legacy, no children to care for, be proud of, no real cross to carry. What compels a childless man to wake up when he knows he’s a genetic deadend?Mmen today would rather live meaningless lives on the internet instead of actually living in the real world. What effect will this lost time have once realization sets in that they are never going to get it back? Sitting behind a screen indoors all day dependent on others is not being a renegade and refusing to play the game. You will never procreate which is the whole biological point of life and no amount of “I’m not breeding more cattle for them” will rationalize this.Videogames, cartoons, and toys are not replacements for a life of purpose, meaningful work, and loving wife and children. Ersatz living through video games, parasocial relationships online, mindless pixel distractions etc is hell. You are just killing time and when you’re 40 you’ll look back at your wasted youth with shame and dread. The amount of time of being a NEET could’ve been you saving and investing all your money for 10-15 even 20 years.Im going to give you a hint about waiting on a job in the future. You are in a race against time. Ageism is real in the job market. The longer you wait to get a job, the harder it is going to be to get one. Lets say you get a degree at 35, who is going to hire you for an entry level position when youre competing against people who finished their degrees at 22-26? The ageism would be fair because why waste your time with someone who makes it clear that they arent prioritizing their life? If you cant manage your own life, why would I want you managing any aspect of my company?
>>534759724>"My crotch fruit are the only justifications for my continued existence!"What a sad and lonely life...
>>534759724I will just have an AI waifu and AI children.
>>534759724>it's mens fault they don't have childrenFucking lol
>>534759724Man can have kids when he wantsWhy you worry about other men?
There are failures in every generation. Everyone in my circle has at least a wife if not kids.
>>534759724>why dont men just get a child from the vending machine?
>>534759942I don’t know one single hums being on this planet who like Joe Rogan or any of his shitty films. That faggot is not a role model.
>>534759984Imagine having an emotion towards a computer
>>534760151That’s bill burr, not rogan
>>534759724>what is the point when you're childlessWhat is important depends on who you are, what you want, what you value. Importance is a matter of perspective.>You are just killing timeThat's all anyone is doing. It's not somehow better if you do it with golf instead of video games. The choice is yours but the end is always the same.
>>534759724Yes. Capitalism is bad. Glad you noticed.
>>534760231it makes no difference
>>534760269nah thats jonah hill man
>>534759724>I cant grasp what drives a 52yo childless man to wake up and go about his day knowing he has no legacy, no children to care for, be proud of, no real cross to carry.I'm 42, no kids or female in my life. I have zero debt, 3 homes and investments. I get up every day, go to work, run my own business on the side, do sports daily, read books, do my hobbies (mainly woodworking) and I'm happy all around. Guess what, faggot. My nephews will receive assets, if not them then the children of my cousins. They are all genetically my descendants. You fucking idiot.>You will never procreate which is the whole biological point of lifelol>Are they mentally ill?No, but women are. I wanted a family. I could have treated my partner with endless love, care and attention. Sadly, none of them pay me any attention. So be it. Men can be happy without children, women can't.
>>534759724>I cant grasp what drives a 52yo childless man to wake up and go about his day knowing he has no legacy, no children to care for, be proud of, no real cross to carry. What compels a childless man to wake up when he knows he’s a genetic deadend?A lot of men when they are really young thought "I'd kill myself if I went bald" and then eventually they went bald and just continue living. A lot of people think "I'd kill myself if I ever got obese" before they got obese and then they continued living. Same with drug addicts, homeless, etc etc etc. The fact is "why continue living" is an absolutely ridiculous question to ask of a living organism. Living things don't rationalize their existence, continuing to live is the default state and killing yourself is the extreme outlier. You OP are ironically extremely post modern and soulless in your thinking for even asking this question
>>534759942Thank god that kike isn't breeding
>>534759724real life is full of niggers so yeah, miss me with that shit
>>534759724Should I get a down syndrome baddie to cure my lonliness?
>>534759724Who cares about the fucking children dude, unless it's kunny for enjoyment I don't care about this shit, the world is going to hell, I refuse to bring more goyim slaves for the jews
>>534759724>Blah blah blah I'm a gigantic faggotAll I read!!
>>534759942Thank God this basedjew has no kids
>>53475972454 man hereNo fucking clue but they are simple minded people
>>534759724I've been in five long/semi long term relationships, countless one night stands, none of them turned off their birth control. What was I supposed to do, sneakily switch out their pills or something?
>>534760449bruh wtf since when does onions translate to based on pol
>>534759724>Mmen today would rather live meaningless lives on the internet instead of actually living in the real worldNno, men would rrather live than kill themselves the moment they tturn 40, llike you're ssuggesting. Tthere's more to life than the normalfag ggrind.
>>534760482S O Y not onions, not based, nigga I'd never call jew based
>>534759724Blame women.
>>534759724Most men who have never married or had kids and have decent jobs are on track to be millionaires by their 50s. I'm 36 and am on track to have $2.5M in my 401k by the time I retire. If I never marry I'm just going to move to SEA/Eastern Europe and fuck teenagers all day
>>534759724>What compels a childless man to wake up when he knows he’s a genetic deadend?I possess eternal life through Jesus Christ. witnessing all of the people who erroneously believe they will live on forever through their genetics is entertaining. Not only will your particular set of genes quickly fade with each passing generation, you will be forgotten entirely by those who possess your genes. Have you ever seen a photo of your great-great-great grandfather? No, you haven't. You don't even know his name. Ironically, the individuals who have lived on forever in the consciousness of humanity were lifelong virgins such as tesla and newton. No one gets remembered from this era, even billionaires will be nothing but footnotes appearing only in historical wealth leaderboard lists no one will ever bother to read.
OP you're talking about a lot of different thingsare we talking about just not having kids? or are we talking about not having a wife? or any relationships? or a job? or any money? hobbies or ambitions?not having kids is fine. being a depressed blob who doesn't move or do anything isn't.
>>534760231Imagine putting up with women's bullshit.
>>534759724k keep us posted about your thoughts blognigger. Go down a gallon of bleach and report back
I hope they all kill themselves so that us people with kids can get jobs
>>534759724people lie all the time you stupid jew, just f urself with your fear and demoralization BS
>>534760385
Glad someone made this thread. I'd never have the opportunity to share my condition IRL because it's so shameful, so I'll leave it here for anyone who wants to read it, hopefully it will be a cautionary tale for younger anons. 36yo. 1. I'm completely desensitized from years of porn. I can only fap to porn. Whenever I interact with women or people in general IRL I just find them ugly, disgusting and annoying. The government might be on to something by banning or restricting porn. It's an absolute poison. Don't know if their motives are good, but things will only get worse with AI. Porn should have never been made free and abundant the way it was to my generation. It potentially ruined millions of men. 2. No energy. After I finish work there's absolutely nothing left in the tank. Even going to the gym is a monumental effort. A child under my care would probably end up being neglected. Not fair to them. 3. As a consequence of immaturity and social stunt I wouldn't know what or how to teach anything to my child. My "values" are shallow and largely political. They are based on opposing things that I dislike and find annoying rather than things I cherish and want to pass on. 4. Considering all of the above, being a genetic dead end is probably a very intentional outcome from nature/God. The only silver lining here is I started working from an early age and have a lot saved up and invested. My retirement will likely be very financially comfortable but yes, I will die alone.
>>534760357This. People seem to think your bloodline ends with you when you have family that branches out.
>>534759724You've posted this more than once before. This is a demoralization thread. Stop it.
>>534760755yea i don't think so bitchmy wife and i are double income no kidsemployers love us because we don't have any little snotnoses who are sick every other week and have a baseball game every other day that we need to leave early forjust stacking money, getting rich as fuck, don't have to work hard but we have more money than we'll ever needhouse and vehicles all paid off by 40, all the money we'll make the rest of our lives can go to whatever we feel likeno pressure, living the good lifebut enjoy "having a legacy" or "not being a genetic deadend" or whatever. (not sure what good that is to me when i'm dead)
>>534760363killing yourself is only a way if you're like in a hopeless situation eg severly disfigured, excessivly obese w/o mobility, full retard disabled...or all of that aka being a ZOG-merican goy slave.Being a US american is SO BAD and such a horrible fate it is THE WORST. I can fully understand the impulse of wanting to kys as such a poor and despicable creature.
>>534761062
>>534761062women will look at this and not think to themselves "i am doing the same things that an actual retard is doing"
>>534759724>blah blah blah have kids>blah blah blah get a jobWe don't really need more wagies.
>>534760385She's giving me Up Syndrome, if you know what I mean.
>>534761473I'm picking Up what you're putting DownI'd like to give her the Up Down Up Down Syndrome
>>534761473>>534761581https://www.instagram.com/liapalmer_/
>>534760269>>534760345You guys are thinking of Jean Cocteau, the French joe Rogan.
I love my boys, they're great little dudes.Very proud of them.Wouldn't have it any other way, been a dad my whole adult life.In my 50s I'll be childfree again, either keeping up with hobbies, travelling with my wife, or (if we split) I'll find a younger wife and start over with more babies.
>>534759724Fucking younger women, mostly. t. 40-something childless boomerI mostly fuck young women. I'm fucking a 23 year old married woman now. She married a guy in college, he ended up dropping out senior year and she went on to get a JD. As a result, she's sleeping around with highly educated men. Most highly educated men these days tend to be older.
>>534759724>biological point of lifeThere is no "biological point of life", that's a human construct. Life is driven by instinct, not rationalized meaning. Higher cognition really just gets in the way
>>534759942you lost at life, tranny
>>534759724You treat some sort of cause as your offspring.
>>534759724>genetic deadendThis is so retarded to me. Why would you care about this spook? There's only me, the rest is superstition
>>534759724>Are they mentally ill?yes
>>534760482not just /pol/ but everywhere
>>534761818t. Niggerlicious hylic
>>534759724>>534759942>Memeflag>1PBTID>Promoting jewish values>Demoralization campaignTay Sachs disease isnt enough.
>>534761891>There's only me, the rest is superstitionhylic NPC retard. probably part nigger
>>534761818>There is no "biological point of life"and if there was, why would i give a fuck?i never get the point of these threads, unless the OP is the guy who has to make sure the capitalist machine keeps running
>>534759724I am in my early to mid 30s and dating an Iranian woman 11 years my junior.
>>534761891we're reaching levels of individualist delusion that shouldnt be possible
>>534759724>You will never procreate which is the whole biological point of life and no amount of “I’m not breeding more cattle for them” will rationalize this."Doing everything right" from high school to college to the early STEM workforce has shown me how little the system invests in its youth. I would never put my child through what's to come, and your future generations will suffer through it because of you. There is no point to life other than what you make of it, and your interpretation of it is built on a shitty facade of self-superiority.
>>534759724im tending to my land
>>534762107why do you always come here seeking approval? just follow your boner
>>534762029>hylicGnostic retardation, you literally believe in Jewish fairy tales
>>534760357Im unemployed 25 yo and made my gf abort my baby. I fought her brother physically because of that. She wanted to settle down with me. Idk what your problem but women in our coutnries are near the same
>>534760586>If I never marry I'm just going to masturbate into whores
>>534762221I am here to point out that there is a way, we dont have to live and die under the Western hags nagging
>>534762349You're a nigger
It's nearly impossible to meet a woman let alone start a family etc. it's all fake and you have no control over it would seem. There is millions of east asian and western males that are not procreating with western females, the males are not allowed to because there countries are cucked by feminism.
>>534762239you have the cognition of a nigger>>534762349You're a nigger
>>534760357A distant cousin in my family has like 12 employees in IT firm and has impregnated a 30something woman. He has less property than you. He is like 58. I spoke his those womens father about politics 2 days ago
so long as miggers continue to make the world worse for everyone i see no reason to have kids. the thing they fear most is white replacement and im happy to oblige and make them seethe endlessly
How come dudes who can't even talk to girls always have the strongest views about sex and reproduction? lol >>534762029>>534761977>babby's first buzzwordYou're not allowed an opinion here until you have sex.
>>534759724Boomers delayed millennials adulthood a lot with the college bullshit, then by the time they started to go into jobs the housing market raised prices x3. It was over for millennialsAdd to that the crisis after crisis.Zoomers are already panicking because they thought boomers would die when they are still young and turns out zoomers are aging and boomers won't die for another decade
>>534762458His first child?
>>534762153>how little the system invests in its youthThis is the tragedy of the commons in America. Nobody wants to take on the burden of investing in the youth to make them tomorrow's experts, leaders, and breadwinners. Everybody would rather just continue to hire the people who are already experienced, already expert in their field. So there's a huge skills gap in tech, in other industries as well, between senior level experts, and the "eternally junior" younger employees. I myself experienced it. There's a wall you reach in your career where if you are not extremely lucky and get handed an opportunity to demonstrate your potential, nobody has time to spare to mentor you, upskill you, or train you to do anything. They just keep putting you in junior roles, so your resume is filled with nothing but junior developer skills. I tried to make the argument that I was grounded enough in junior skills to be given a chance at something more senior, and was told flat out that they couldn't risk giving a senior position to somebody inexperienced. How the fuck am I supposed to get the experience then? I'm basically kept on as a permanent under-class at the company, given all the shit work and paid less, with zero opportunities for advancement beyond my station.
>>534759724People are dogshit, especially women, so why would I want to marry and then bring a child into a world where their peers will either be poorly-raised retards or psychopaths? In addition, my peace and quiet is infinitely better than 99% of the stuff I see others get into on daily basis. However, I haven't had much trouble finding meaning. I live for God, stacking cash, getting better in my career, and enjoying the world. If society in general was so concerned about the participation of everyone then they should have collectively built a better society and been better people, but since they did neither it's all water under the bridge. Can't say I blame the NEETs, but I do agree they should make a living for themselves and not be sponge on others.t, burger on vacation
>>534760482Newfag
>>534759724The men that are "in society" and doing all the normal "family stuff" less actually reproducing are not the rate limiting step for the most part
>>534760482Imagine being this new
>>534762682Yeah. I always felt bad for him whenever i went to their slava. His like 8 years younger brother married my aunt 20 years ago. He is like 10 years older than you and poorer than you. Always looked shy. I think you are in much better position
>>534762773>I tried to make the argument that I was grounded enough in junior skills to be given a chance at something more senior, and was told flat out that they couldn't risk giving a senior position to somebody inexperienced. How the fuck am I supposed to get the experience then? I'm basically kept on as a permanent under-class at the company, given all the shit work and paid less, with zero opportunities for advancement beyond my station.Don't they make you do stuff beyond your job description anyway to save money? Here the corporate culture is "you must already be doing the higher level job to get promoted to it" which is extremely skewed to the company's favor. It basically lets them offload higher level tasks to lower-paid employees. But if you keep track of the shit you've done over a couple of years then you have an argument for already having the experience. Maybe you have experience that you haven't considered
>>534759724Not my problem. Life is not a duty.
>>534762358>If I never marry I'm just going to masturbate into whoresThat's much better than just picking one whore to masturbate into for the rest of my life
>>534760287Raising a child is farming the future - it's not killing time.
>>534760641I also possess eternal life through Christ Jesus but that didn’t stop my drive to be fruitful and multiply. Sounds like you’re chasing money over a life of service to your family. Very sad.
>>534762511malding NPC. I have a roster over here>>534762800You live for the demiurge and you're a midwit pseud>>534762773you need izzat
>>534762800Checked and rare
>>534762349Nigger, you are
>>534760357>>534761125>>534761744>nephews and cousins>>They are all genetically my descendants.That's not how heritability worksAssuming you don't have identical twins, you share about 50% of genes with siblings. Your nieces and nephews are only roughly 25% similar to you. Now take your cousins - your mum is only 50% similar to her sister and 50% similar to you, which means your aunt is only 25% similar to you. Your aunt's kid, your cousin, is only 12.5% similar, which means their kids will only be 6.25% similar. And none of this involves actually inheriting your genes. Only genes that are mathematically likely to be similar to the ones you inherited from your parents.
Life is like a video game. A lot of people are born thinking it's an on-rails, story-based experience where they will be shuttled past various life milestones like a tourist and that all they have to do is 'exist' and this will happen. This is often reinforced by the first 18 years of your life which are a bit like this. You go where your parents tell you, you progress up through school year after year, you 'rank-up' in a sense just by passively existing. And then you're dumped into the real world.And the reality is that life is an open-box sandbox game with no intrinsic goals or quests or rewards. You have to create your own meaning, set your own goals and start playing your own game in your own way. There is no 'right way' to play and ultimately no win conditions. Some people just fundamentally cannot handle that and ultimately hate sandbox style games.
>>534759724Life after 30 is a slow-motion suicide without family. It's all the negatives of getting old; watching your friends drift away as they start their own families, your parents and siblings getting old and die, watching everything in your life slowly putter out as the magic fades; without any of the positives of things like family or community to shore you up. Everything rots away and you're left with the bleakness of oblivion, no hope of anything continuing. Anyone who has experienced considerable ageing among his family members (or already in himself), knows how blackpilling it is. It's really rough, once people pass their early 50s (or sometimes even sooner) you start to notice the slip-ups, forgetfulness, the declining of fine motor skills, the difficulties understanding new information. Human existence is a tragedy, there are so few years that you are allowed with full mental and physical strength. Your peak years are mostly wasted with education, where you have barely any control over your own life, because you have little to no money nor autonomy. Add to that the time spent sleeping, working, hygiene, housework, shopping, appointments, visits to the workshop - what do we have left? Everyone who has to work for a living basically leads a precarious existence, regardless of whether they are a simple worker or a well-paid employee. Before they have built up a comfortable fortune and a well established understanding of the world, the body goes downhill.
>>534762120You seem spooked
>>534759724Thank you 1pbtid botspam kike very cool!
>>534762895Fair. Problem is I can't stand modern women. I can't trust one of them to be part of my life. Maybe if I literally paid one to artificially inseminate and carry my child and take care of it....
>>534759724>Whats the point when youre a childless man?Killing kikes and shitskins.
>>534760142>There are failures in every generation. Everyone in my circle has at least a wife if not kids.Dogshit example #24376>Says someone not marrying and having kids with the roastie and these divorce laws as a failureImagine the misfortune of being around this jackass every day. I don't have to imagine, as I've been around thousands of them, so my peace and quiet are much more preferable, KEK.
>>534759724I get out of bed when I'm tired of laying in bed. And I'll get a job for a few months when I'm tired of having nothing to do all day. What's so tough to understand about that? Some of you have lived your whole lives in the cattle chute that you can't even comprehend the idea of complete free-range living.>muh vidyaI don't play stupid child games, so you can fuck off with your vidya excuse for everything
>>534763174Yes retard, his nieces and nephews are the same as his potential grandchildren, literally a one generation difference
There is pretty much no coming back from being NEET at 30+ unless your parents are rich and you are set to inherit a lot. The problem with being a NEET in your 20's is you do not see the future problems you are setting yourself up for. Your 20's were to be used for building skills, getting education, job experience. Without that, you are FUCKED in this job market. I work at a hospital and I see it often. At 60+ people really start to fall off, even the ones they kept fit. Cancer and disease is a bitch. Its always super cringe when the loser son or sons get summoned and you can see the pure horror on their faces, not because mom or dad is dying, but because they know their support system is going away. These are grown 30+ year old adults that have never done any adult shit, they don't have bank accounts, they never filed taxes, they never filled out a W2 form, they don't know how to fix anything or get anything done. Basically adult babies.Your 30's are your MIDDLE AGE. You are not young. You are not a kid. Your whole life is not ahead of you. Half of it is over and the second half moves even more rapidly, with each decade (relativity). Get it together because you are running out of time.The amount of time of being a NEET could’ve been you saving and investing all your money for 10-15 even 20 years.
>>534763440You must be the creepy uncle at family dinner
>>534759724>You are just killing time and when you’re 40 you’ll look back at your wasted youth with shame and dread.54 here. This is a lie.
>>534759724>this is it?yep.you should have had this realization a long time ago. having a near death experience, or a terminal diagnosis rapidly speeds up the process.but i think it's a sign of a comfortable life to be hit with this in your 40s
>>534761772>lawyers>highly educated
>>534763094>you're a midwit pseudHit close, didn't I shithead? You just proved my point. Everything I stated was clear and based on experience, so nothing pseud about it. How about this monkey, just start throwing shit against a wall, because then you'd be more likely to draw an intelligent conclusion.
>>534759724>sample of 1>GUISE THINK ABOUT DEM IMPLICAYSHUNS!
>>534762029OH BOY YOU SHOWED HIM! HOW IS HE GONNA COPE?
>>534763065>Raising a child is farming the futureOh boy, comparing raising a child to farming, you tradcons are really convincing, fucking KEK.
>>534760357If no women gave you the time it's because you shouldn't have kids
>>534763086>Sounds like you’re chasing money over a life of service to your familywhere do you get that?
>>534761891>There's only me, the rest is superstitionAre you okay with me hanging this on my fridge?
>>534760463You make them stop taking it faggot if you can't do that then don't have kids
>>534762349you are low iq gypsy
>>534763189Life is an arcade game where your score is determined by how much you achieve Gnosis and find the spark of God. NPCs have no will and will be tourcattled by evil psychics who administer the laws of the Archons on them to farm the NPCs for short sighted material means. Most people are clay golems that are slaves to their senses and have no hope of even realizing there's a game going on, much less winning it.
>>534763849Nah, fuck you.
>>534761124You're at least self-aware. It isn't too late to find a decent woman and at least have a crack at it.
>>534763800Yeah all the nigger and spics in jail with multiple kids are definitely nature's chosen menStupid faggot retardLetting women choose who to procreate with cuz vibez has been a disaster for the human race
modern life is better, but causes more anxiety because there's more dependency to maintain that standard. just losing a job can mean that you lose access to 80% of your comforts. if you have the competency to self-sustain poverty, you at least have certainty.
>>534763800That's also true
>>534763964If even niggers and spics can do it why can't you are you a street shitter or something? If your white it should be no problem maybe your just a faggot then
>>534761417This.I don't have an entry level job not for the lack of trying.It is in part because of HR playing stupid games, COVID, and now AI "eliminating work".I have a fairly developed portfolio of now-obsolete skills.
>>534760357Yup, and putting on my 'They Live' glasses, OP is seething that too many men are refusing to be tax donkey, ATMs for ungrateful whores, and producing (or as another tradcon said 'farming') the next army of tax and war donkeys.I tell you these gals are real persuasive, aren't they? KEK
>>534761124>modern women are unattractive>modern society doesn't let you be around your kids>society doesn't have any values>so I should dieEh, why not just laugh at society?
>>534763980Atleast you'll admit this instead of coping like the rest your alright stay safe
>>534759724You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about men. You are a faggot.
>>534764030>HR playing stupid games.Like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM3PWQXxaMoand 10000 more.
>>534763412No one gives a flying fuck about your retarded opinion, suqdeep.
>modern women are unattractivelol in what world do you live? even in my small rural town there's 10/10's, if i go to town it becomes even more insane. they look even better than famous singers and actresses.
>>534759724Not like I have a fucking choice eitherway. What the fuck am I supposed to do if women want nothing to do with me? Women only want 6 foot 6 pack 6 figure salary chads with a huge dick especially those aged 18-30. Women act completely disgusted and uninterested if I so much as say hi. Even after women pass 30 they still play games for you to become their beta provider.
>>534759724It was not my choice to be single and childless as a man, but I work to distract myself and survive... No need to provide or work harder. I also use my money to help mom.I didn't choose this so I don't get why I'm being blamed. I'm not a woman having endless options being young, am also kinda autistic.
>>534763440No they're not retard, you are not a 1:1 construction of all the DNA your parents carry. You are an arbitrary sample of it. That's why siblings look different and have different capabilities. If what you said was true all siblings would have to be clones of their siblings.
>>534762944>The gay science
>>534759724i live for the day when every divorce lawyer is executed, the children are returned to their fathers, the birthing skanks and non birthing murderous skanks get the lobotomy healthcare they need
>>534764150most girls are just frumpy amalgamations of random traits and they know it, and get fat
>>534760142>at least a wife if not kids
>>534763970If you are a westerner you can live without comforts for a few months and gain the means to sustain yourself in leisure indefinitely, even off of a shitty minimum wage job. But being able to see the value of leisure is a privilege the masses are too stupid to comprehend.
If God wanted me to have children he would have made me attractive to women. gif unrelated
>>534761124>Whenever I interact with women or IRL I just find them ugly, disgusting and annoyingThat's not because of porn that's because the average modern woman is ugly, disgusting, and annoying.
>>534759724I have read this copy/paste before
>>534760463>What was I supposed to dobeat the shit out of the pastor, take the pulpit, tell the faggots who listened to him that theyre all going to hell, burn the church down
>>534764245they have a wife, or they have kids (in which their marriage immediately falls apart)what is there not to understand?
>>534759724>for a life of purpose, meaningful workTell that to the people making iphones with suicide nets outside their windows. Or the kids making sneakers in Malaysia. Meaningful work is harder to come by now than it ever was.
>>534760463Get your passport, bro
>>534763056>one whore to masturbate intobut with wife you plant your seed you idiot, this is how "eternal life" is achieved--by growing into the next generation
>>534764528Yeah, maybe it will come to that.
>>534764456>Tell that to the people making iphones with suicide nets outside their windows. Or the kids making sneakers in Malaysia.Trying to have a deep conversation with a hylic is like talking to a wall.
>>534762773>tragedy of the commons in America. Nobody wants to take on the burden of investing in the youththe problem is school and the solution is to execute everyone involved and permanently abolish the institution
>>534759942Why do people like this faggot add "fuck" and its variants to every possible sentence? I tried watching some of that show The Boys because a friend of mine is a huge fan of it. But I couldn't get into it, it stunk of this jewish piece of shit too much, even its dialogue.
>>534759724Nice 2deep 5u, memeflaggot. This is a realization you have in your 30s. By the time you hit your 40s, this is old news.
>>534764563wives dont carry children. they murder your children, then make you buy a puppy instead, then get a train run on them by the puppy farm dogs
>>534759724OP is an NPC
>>534764640it's a way to be reddit codedyou can't be subtle when signaling to NPCs, it needs to be loud and clear.
>>534759724I'm 30. I wanted kids until a year ago, i was ready to have a life full of challenges of being a good father, raising my child to be good, brave, intelligent, with a dream. I'm northern italian, so my kids would be white and it would make some kikes really mad, but i didn't care. Now i realized that these "people" are playing a game that not a single fucking idiot would play. Maybe even the kikes have a form of "izzaz" like the poos, i don't know, but when everyone of my kind is gone, they'll be left with all of the feral third worlders that they liked to import so much, and I don't want to bring a child in this kind of world, where he is going to be a minority in school, in life, despite being in his fucking home country. So yes, the kikes won this game, I don't even want to think of a reason as of why they are playing this game, but when I'll be gone, it won't be my problem anymore and not when my family's problem, since there won't be anyone left. So yes, it won't be the happiest life I wish I had, but the thought of bringing a child in this world and having him live with niggers, kikes, mudslimes and poos disgusts me. Since everyone my age or older than me seems fine with what they are living behind for their children, I'll let them be happy to live in a world full of shit. Good play kikes, enjoy your hell on earth, then enjoy boiling in shit in your hell in the afterlife too
I'm an older millennial and I don't feel any of this faggot angst. After stock market crashes and recessions cucking me out of the most important years of career development I'm ecstatic to finally be somewhat on track now.
>>534764843>the thought of bringing a child in this world and having him live with niggers, kikes, mudslimes and poos disgusts me.Normalnigger whites are spiritually identical to all of the riffraff. You quit for nothing.
>>534763174> muh genetic heritageI hate to ruin your party anon, but look up telegony.
>>534763593Like it or not, that's the equivalent of having a masters degree. The moment you get a graduate degree, you become "highly educated" in those circles. I'm finishing up a PhD part-time, so I slide into that niche she likes to fuck.I'm not complaining. I'm becoming NTR Red and I'm enjoying it.
>>534764843the same happened to me. And I actually love children, but I don't want to deal with a feminist woman and I wouldn't have a kid unless I was a millionaire and could send them to a private school in a good area away from niggers. I also discovered that there's a better way to fight against white genocide. Having a couple of kids doesn't make a big difference, but removing 51 kebabs do make a big difference at a local level. You are erasing whole generation of invaders and if enough men do this they won't come to our countries because they are cowards. I will live for 15 years or so and when I'm in my mid 40s I will do the funniest thing.
>>534762153I'm officially blackpilled/demoralized. I was reading that article where a journalist interviewed a 13 year old girl over a couple weeks. The girl was not allowed to have a phone or a personal laptop. Her parents only allowed her to use a shared laptop in the living room during family time every Friday night. They had a family phone for use at home with no data plan, only WiFi, which had parental controls blocking Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, Instagram, etc. And despite that the girl came off as completely and totally absorbed by modern culture in every single way. Super lib, outright saying she hated all men. Her 9 year old little brother, subject to the same rules, went by they/them pronouns. I don't know how people can have kids in these conditions. I guess they convince themselves they can win against the world, and then resign themselves to their fate after they get btfo. Idk.
>>534759724I honestly don't know many people my age who have jobs but don't have children. I'm 37 for the record. Now, chronically unemployed people my age with no children? Yes.
>>534763784Retard doesn't even understand the origin of the word "husband"
>>534765050Very few whites have an Aryan soul they are spiritually Jewish or a nigger
>>534759724>What compels a childless man to wake up when he knows he’s a genetic deadend?one day I might afford a housemaybe I can impress a 26yo with my house and put babies in her before she leaves me and takes my house
>>534765230People like that everything they say and hear has to be literal
>>534765088You can make a play banking on telegony being real. If telegony is real I have hundreds of kids (assuming the roasties went on to have kids)
>>534764783>babies arent grown in wombsok maam
>>534765211You're officially 87 Iq and I didnt read past the first line
>>534765211unironically, is better to let your kids access social media nowadays. My niece is 12 and she's based like you wouldn't believe. It's because she has seen the whole therian and tranny cringe that was popping in social media. She has seen videos of non whites committing crimes, she's more in touch with the modern world that some kid who gets all his worldview from liberal teachers and the dumb normies at his class.
>muh legacyLook buddy your legacy is you have to make babies because of a billion legacy systems in your body. Cope with it however you like. Its a strong enough drive you don't need my contribution.
>>534765191I thought the same. My dog has still a good 15 years to live so I decided that at 45 I'd do something, my gf can do whatever the fuck she wants for all i care, but then, why should I end the suffering of other people, by killing them? The traitors in my country will have to live with the consequences of their choices, why should I do something that could slightly help them? Fuck them, I just wanted to be a good father in a nice country
>>534762079Honestly it makes sense why you don't have kids, you're depressed
>>534759724>I cant grasp what drives a 52yo childless man to wake up and go about his day knowing he has no legacyProtip: within four generations you have single-digit percentages of your DNA remaining. By six, there's basically nothing left of you. Your great grandchildren won't even remember your name, and their eyes will glaze over as your kids mention you. If you're lucky, someone a hundred years after you die might be curious enough to see your name in a genealogical tree... but only for a moment. Legacy is a massive fucking cope, honestly. It leads people to do truly fucking retarded things. My wife and I have no kids and don't plan on having them. If we want to raise a kid, we'll just fucking PICK ONE from the millions and millions of unwanted children of the world. We can at least do some good that way. I get up and go to work because I get to solve interesting problems. I find that meaningful. You might find that empty, but life is what you make of it. I prefer generating my own meaning to inheriting it from biology or, god fucking forbid, religion. In my opinion, people who derive meaning from breeding are indistinguishable from people who derive it from shooting up heroin. You're just copping out and satisfying yourself with the first plausible teleological offramp: procreation.
>>53476522686% of women over 40 have children. It's higher than it was 20 years ago. More people are having children than any point in recent history. Fertility rate is only an issue because people have 1 or 2 kids instead of 3 or 4 kids.I've tried warning anons about this. They think they're gonna grow up in a world where everyone ends up single and childless like them, but it's far from the truth. Anons are going to wake up one day and realize everyone was busy forming families and having kids, meanwhile they were on 4chan talking about how society is collapsing.
>>534765645>My wife and I have no kids and don't plan on having them. If we want to raise a kid, we'll just fucking PICK ONE from the millions and millions of unwanted children of the world.Pick a nigger, because that's what you are.
>>534765645> bro there's no such thing as population genetics If you have kids you preserve properties about you. It doesn't even have to be racial. If you want high IQ people to exist in the future and you're high IQ, you should have kids.
>>534765645>Protip: your descendants arent clones of youwe have to oven the redditors. it's the only way out of this mess
>>534765384It's a demoralizing copy pasta bait post that gets posted here every other day anon I'm not responding to it I'm just talking about what I want to talk about.
>>534759724not falling for it kike, i'm not letting my own work for your schemes
>>534765736Being high-IQ has been nothing but a fucking blight on my life. I spent 35 years fighting against it. I couldn't give the slightest bit of a fuck whether or not some future society has people as "smart" as I am. What I hope is that I can meaningfully change society, if only slightly, such that people with weird, neudivergent brains can exist peacefully. I wouldn't want to inflict life on someone who may very likely grow up to experience the world in the depth and nuance of my own experience.
>>534759724>Videogames, cartoons, and toys are not replacements for a life of purpose, meaningful work, and loving wife and children.>pic related the "loving wife"
>>534765736>population geneticsRiveting stuff you gaylord
>>534765966>What I hope is that I can meaningfully change society, if only slightly, such that people with weird, neudivergent brains can exist peacefully.Redditors like you pick a quirk chungus and have kids all the time
>>534765566You can inspire people to change things with their own hands. Imagine if every single man who is fed up with the current state of society actually did something. If you are killing yourself at some point to not die old and alone you might as well be remembered forever. I will do it just to give anons material to shitpost, and out of personal reasons because I genuinely hate the invaders. I will just live my life to the fullest till then, I'm spending my money on driving sport cars and sex tourism. Become a warrior anon.
>>534759724>Videogames, cartoons, and toys are not replacements for a life of purpose, meaningful work, and loving wife and children.The life that you're preaching doesn't exist anymore. In a civilization where the divorce rate is 50%, no self-respecting man would gamble his future on such a terrible bet.I'm nearing my forties, I feel my body's yearning for all those lovely things you mentioned, but it passes when I remember that we are living in duplicitous times where everyone is out for themselves. Being a lifelong California resident only reinforces the mindset because this state breeds the shallowest personalities. People who live for their "starbies" and drama. If I really wanted to leave a legacy, I could just as easily visit several sperm banks and let my genes pass on in this manner. Society certainly isn't owed my time nor energy, and the more it refuses to address the root causes of the problems while insisting on placing the blame on men to continue upholding their decaying institutions, the more you will continue pushing away the men of quality. You can have the wife beaters and degenerates with money. Morality, virtue, and the benevolent man have been denied to society.You can cope about it, cry about it, seethe if you must, but in the end you will have to accept what you voted for.Me personally, I like to view society the same as being in a toxic relationship with a controlling and manipulative woman. Any man that's been through that experience knows every trick, every manipulative tactic employed against us, and how to continue denying them their supply. Wicked people won't live forever, time and patience, even some sacrifice will be necessary. But they will rectify the grave mistakes that our society has made.
>>534759724>The point of life is sex and continuing the suffering chain of humans living on a world at war.You do not understand life.You can't even comprehend it properly.I am sorry, you are "the one that doesn't know".
>>534759724>Mmen today would rather live meaningless lives on the internet instead of actually living in the real world. What effect will this lost time have once realization sets in that they are never going to get it back? Sitting behind a screen indoors all day dependent on others is not being a renegade and refusing to play the game. You will never procreate which is the whole biological point of life and no amount of “I’m not breeding more cattle for them” will rationalize this.You need to inflict a tremendous amount of trauma into an animal for it to give up trying to procreate. Animals in zoos display this behaviour. Society is not treating people much differently. Who's to blame? The rich and powerful? Capitalism? The state? The cia? take your pick but either way you're not procreating.
>>534766308>muh divorce doesnt matter. divorce allows you to have multiple wives, you just have to do it sequentially >muh sperm bankThe jew running the bank throws your sperm in the trash and puts his own in
>>534760522kek
>>534761124>being a genetic dead end is probably a very intentional outcome from nature/God.Oh, it is intentional; but not from nature. It is 100% man made.
>>534764843That's the thing, I'm seeing more and more people giving up, it's just too much energy and even if you had kids, most of your friends and family won't so the kid will be too alone. The world is also way too fucking evil and elites are going to keep asspulling viruses, vaxxes, niggers, some microship etc. and every little hobby will get niggered tooNo shit nips fantasize about isekai, we could have had such a beautiful and good life, fuck jews, eternal hell for them
>>534765191I reached a point that even if I was millionaire the world is so fucking invaded my kids would still live isolated. I hate all the freedom we lost
>>534766535>You need to inflict a tremendous amount of trauma into an animal for it to give up trying to procreate. Animals in zoos display this behaviour. Society is not treating people much differently. Who's to blame? The rich and powerful? Capitalism? The state? The cia? take your pick but either way you're not procreating.The meta is shifting and a lot of people ill suited for the future are getting filtered. Natural selection is always ongoing and can never be turned off. Instead of starvation or tigers being the predators the modern age has introduced many new kinds of predators, all of them are psychological and nonmaterial (aside from obesity, erectile dysfunction, and other forms of infertility)
>>534766773>The world is also way too fucking evil and elites are going to keep asspulling viruses, vaxxes, niggers, some microship etc. and every little hobby will get niggered tooNothing has changed. The normalniggers didn't suddenly become niggers in March 2020. They always were. It just went full mask off for even the midwits like you to see
>>534759724>Whats the point when youre a childless man?To pursue the greater things you couldn't afford to do or didn't have the discipline to do when you were younger. And of course to enjoy life with the one you love.
>>534763412you are literally a shit covered animal. Modern human life and philosophy is incomprehensible to you.
>>534764029Because women are attracted to loser convict niggers and spics, not men who could be good fathers. I thought that was an obvious inference to make from the post but I don't speak retard enough for you, niggerbrain
>>534759724In my opinion, having a child is a real drag for a man. In reality, a child is a side effect of sex, in the context of the fact that if your wife/girlfriend breaks up with you, in 99 percent of cases, you, as the man, have to fork out a ton of money for the child (and on top of that, if you share an apartment, she takes the entire apartment; in the best-case scenario, you split the assets 50/50).The best option for a man is not to have a child or be married, and then when you break up with your girlfriend, you start with a clean slate.
>>534759724Honestly, I've never figured out why people say other people give you meaning. Or children do. They give you busywork, which usually is meaningless. Its a type of sentimental attachement, with no real substance. Fairest shake I can give it, is that its emotionally validating to be needed, or to pretend mundane life if filled with something special when you're in company. All that instead of individuating yourself, to not seek something outside you to validate yourself.
>>534767564>in 99 percent of cases, you, as the man, have to fork out a ton of money for the child (and on top of that, if you share an apartment, she takes the entire apartment; in the best-case scenario, you split the assets 50/50).only beta paypig boomers who try to use their shekels to get girls get raped in this fashion. If you make $2 a week in wagies you must pay the girl like 0.25 cents. And they cant take your apartment if you dont have one. Literally just own nothing and be happy bro
>>534759724Nihilist materialists are an endangered species. We have to put up with you guys another ~75 years but after that you're all dead and the remaining Godly humans will fill the Earth and subdue it.And yes, I have 4 kids and we're gonna go for another.
>>534767829based
>>534759942imagine being rich and famous and not have kids.
>>534767608>All that instead of individuating yourselfYou can't truly know yourself until you loved, been loved, and experienced raising children, looking at the world through their eyes, and seeing yourself reflected in the ways they act.
>>534767054That means jews and niggers will starve when whites are gone kek
Let me understand, the point of life is would be perpetuating the specie like a fucking animal? If life is ultimately meaningless, then there is no reason for doing so. It's just an eternal loop. Niggers do live like that. Are you a nigger? Having children is all about the fantasy of perpetuating your ego, it boils down to fear of death.
>worst era to be alive>why don't you have kids brohylics are deranged lol. people are miserable 24/7 in the current clown society. they have no energy or proper headspace to have a kid. why would they force another innocent consciousness to be wagecattle?do you know how much abuse a mammal has to go through to reject reproducing?
One thing I like to do is try and keep young men for falling for the lies I was told when I was young. It feels like a worthwhile endeavor.
>>534759724Did older generations who worked on railroads or coal mines starting at age 13, for 14+ hour shifts and lived in a shack their whole lives ask these kinds of questions?
>>534767938You're only speaking of yourself now. You couldn't, so you assume other can't either.I won't accuse you of anything, but if I'd listen to people who promise some great happiness, love or wisdom, but only if you do something they're selling you. I would be joining every religion on earth. That type of pitch should not work on anyone above the age of 20. Because you never get the bliss promised, and you see that people selling you a fantasy never put anything on the line. Even though understandably they do it because they believe in it, and because it possibly worked for them, and not out of malice.
>>534768904Wrong meme, but oh well.
>>534760357But you won't experience the wonderful feeling of hearing your kid say they love you ;-)
>>534763368Basically this
>>534765719This. Almost every woman in the west is still breeding, but they are also importing billions of third worlders into the west, and will continue to do so, who are desperate to breed mid or ugly white women. It's game over for men really, as billions of men are now after white women and some of them are already living in the west, some are even successful and amassing wealth at a rapid pace, but most importantly they are full of life and joy, as they are too retarded and low IQ to get blackpilled. Every average white woman has now hordes of males hitting her if she has social media, and guess what most of them do, but it's not just social media, it's the work field, it's the universities, the leisure activities, the hobby groups, the bars and restaurants. They are everywhere.
>>534759724>Mmen today would rather live meaningless lives on the internet instead of actually living in the real world.stfu from my living space, normieor lurk more and become me
>>534763174>That's not how heritability workssupposedly humans share 98% genome with chimpanzee, so how the fuck does it work really?depends on jew you ask
>>534759724>Spending time and money on modern women in 2026You’re goddamn right im playing video games. Women can go find some other man to divorce rape.
>>534769298A friend of mine's kid (around 20-ish) told him to go fuck himself the other day and that he is a failure and an idiot.
>>534759724>millennial woesTheir youth is gone and their best years are behind them. Their women are withering away, many of whom never even blossomed into motherhood. They have no assets or stake in the economy. They have no social standing and mostly stand alone.Like an old work animal whose time has come and needs to be put down, like a stray dog who overstayed it's welcome, like an old man who understands so well the point where oblivion takes you forever, it's over for millennials they are finished.
>>534770259Because he is a shitty father
>>534770728Keep believing that. He is a great person and has given his life raising that retard.
>>534770728Or his son just is ungrateful. But its still the side people pitching children and family as absolute happiness never tell. If you ask them, its a fairytale of happiness. If not you did it wrong, and its your own fault. But the perfect fantasy is never wrong, people just fail it. Its basically religious thinking.
>>534759724>534760586idc what happens to nokids faggits may as well be eunuchs
>>534760357This. I’m 38 with zero debt and liquid over 1m. I truly enjoy my life. I work and invest over 85% of my take home pay. I take 4 vacations per year. I haven’t fucked a woman older than 25 since my last normie relationship like 4 years ago. I tried to do the traditional family matrix shit from 18-33. Last one left me because her friends convinced her another guy was a better option, it lasted two dates and she had a mental breakdown, still lives with her parents last I heard. These “what about your legacy” people make me laugh as well. Nigger what legacy? I’m not the Duke of earl or some shit. Most of these men saying that will have a legacy of being broke after divorce and a legacy of seeing their child on the weekend every other week. I am to the point where I have achieved too much and life is too good, I couldn’t risk all of that now on a coin flip. If they caught me 10 years ago I would have, but not now.
>>534771418>a coin flipThat's the crux isn't it? You just can't trust women with the fruits of your life's labour, simple as. I take two vacations per year, it's what's comfy foe me, nothing to do with money. Business class, researched all the places I want to visit beforehand, etc. Difference is what I've seen from women has actively put me off sex. I think I count as volcel now.
>>534759724>be me>5'8">balding>full time wagieBud I'm not reproducing or dating anyone kek. All I do is work and invest and go to the gym. Until I get a hair transplant I'm sidelined from dating, and even then I don't know that I even have the energy for it anymore.
>>534764150A ten is very relative and subjective. Also there are levels to this. Plenty of those small town 10s move to the big city and realize they are a 6. They are only a ten if podunk towns where the big nigger on campus is the general manager of roller general or jiffy lube and there is no competition.
>>534759724worry about your own family, mind your own business
>>534771610I am don’t with normal relationships. I will keep a sugar baby or two for when the need arises. That is chicken feed in the scheme of things though. The rental method is cheaper and it does not require any emotional or time investment.
>>534760142Imagine thinking having a wife is an accomplishment. Wh-tch!
>>534759724>reddit Screenshot 1pbthid stale cuckservative pastaretards all of you.
>>534771610once you go past 30 and realize a series of things about women (feminism), society (banks), the only sane thing is to go volcel. All the guys I've seen who keep playing the game eventually get burned, it's rarer and rarer that couples stay together and that couples don't make the man miserable.of course you are free to keep dealing with women, even marry.
>>534759724Some people don't like children. I'd rather blow my brains out than raise kids.
>>534759942I’m glad this Jew got high on his own supply
Im gonna retire at 40 and fuck stay at home wives while the husband works.
>>534759724Life itself is reason enough to live. Legacy is a bullshit egotrip. Creation is finished. God's perfection is unchangebale. Your cockjuice cannot add or take awy anything from this world.
>>534760231Probably more real and stimulating than a nagging fat ugly soul crushing flesh whore who is "going out with the girls" this Friday night
>>534770259
>>534760055Typically they see pic rel and it freaks them the fuck out. It consumes them until they fall asleep every night, and is the first thing that lands on them every morning. They're so hopelessly cornered in life that they have no outlet for their agony than to lash out at those who didn't make the the same living-suicide decisions they made.
You should have just been a reckless junkie teen like me and getting a random hoe pregnant. Now I've cleaned up, went back to college and graduated, and now have a relationship with my daughter. Telling people they have to do the right then and wait till they have money to have kids is part of what's killing the White race. Just get some women pregnant then figure it out
>>534759724>loving wife and childrenthry still exist in kali yuga?
>>534771097>Or his son just is ungratefulOh, yes, thank you for bringing me into the world without my consent. Now I am ethnically obligated to continue my existence. Thanks so much!
>>534759984Playing vidya with my AI waifu.
The meaning of life is really easy to understand if you do the one thing you've been putting off for decades, opening a bible.
>>534759724Same hereThe thought of retiring and growing old alone, sitting at home until I fall down the stairs or drown in my own drool and they find me three weeks later due to a smell complaint. The only living memory I leave behind, is the neighbors momentary gossip about that “old man” as they roll my piss stained corpse through the streetIt gives me the shivers
>Women are whores>marriage is just a recipe for her to claim your shit>society sucks>wages suck>life sucksWhy even exist at all. It's selfish pricks that breed more cattle into this hell. Like blacks breeding as much as possible and demanding everyone else pay for their kids, it's low iq morons who are breeding these days while the hood nose bankers cash in. You're nothing to them, not even dirt
>>534767938maybe you can't.>>534773258I do estate sales. No one cares about anyone older than their grandpa if that. All the memories end up in the trash and the kids sell the house, saying thanks old man, just like the dead old man in your scenario
>>534759724This is a copypasta thread by a 1pdtID.
>>534773627Gay robot.
