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*AND TEMPORARY VISA JEETS
**May be as soon as May 14th, but probably not!
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>>534765125
Dan Bilzerian and Nick Fuentes are two fucking ignorant bickering women.
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I wanna beleive. What's the basis for thinking scotus won't just cuck? All they have to do is rule on the side of "not changing anything" to ass ram our nation(im American out of country rn) for another half dozen generations.
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You lost migger
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>>534765125
Imagine if it actually passes and doesn't get blocked by democrats, like every other thing Trump has promised.
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>>534765125
The Supreme Court won't even uphold a ban on whores getting mail-order abortion pills. There is no possible way it will end birthright citizenship.
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>>534765588
Who has the authority to block a scotus ruling?
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>>534767124
I'm sure they'll find a way to throw a wrench in the gearbox.
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>>534767288
So you have no basis for your claim at all. Got it.
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>>534765125
I give it a 30% chance of surviving SCOTUS
and it wont be retroactive

>>534767124
Congress could pass a law or a constitutional amendment
SCOTUS should just be deciding if Trump has the power to do this in the current framework of the law
also was this an Executive Order? if so it'll be stopped as soon as the next dem pres is elected
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>>534767399
When SCOTUS rules in Trumps favor 7 - 2 on June 30th, 2026 the only moves that the Democrats could make are a Constitutional Amendment or to somehow win super majorities in the house, senate, and win the presidency and then add a bunch of justices to the Supreme Court and have that new SCOTUS overturn the ruling made by this SCOTUS.
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>>534765125
>THE RETROACTIVE END
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>>534767532
>When SCOTUS rules in Trumps favor 7 - 2 on June 30th, 2026
I appreciate your optimism
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Donald Trump to be stripped of his American citizenship for being the son of a British immigrant. All of his children will officially become stateless too from now on. WOOOO.
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>>534767399
>>534767532
>>534767921

The idea that this will pass without democrat interference is crazy.
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>>534768813
They have no methods of interference
They can stamp their feet in seething anger but they have no power, no avenue, no method of interfering.
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>>534768813
they killed Roe V Wade
theres always hope
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>>534768899
The method of interfering is to make it so SCOTUS doesn't rule in favor of it.
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>>534769021
And how will they do that?
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>>534768996
They gutted the Voting Rights Act of 1965
and that was just like last week!
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>>534769084
The question of how to stop the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) from potentially ending or significantly narrowing birthright citizenship is a major legal and political flashpoint in 2026. The issue arose following President Trump’s **Executive Order 14160** (issued in January 2025), which challenged the long-standing interpretation of the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause.

If the Supreme Court were to rule in favor of the administration, Democrats and civil rights advocates would have several specific (though difficult) tools to counter the decision.

### 1. Legislative "Fixes" (Codification)

While the Supreme Court is the ultimate arbiter of the Constitution, Democrats could attempt to pass federal legislation to clarify citizenship rules.

* **The Citizenship Act:** Congress has the power to define who is a citizen by statute (under Article I, Section 8). Democrats could pass a law explicitly stating that any person born in the U.S. is a citizen, regardless of their parents' status.
* **The Constraint:** If SCOTUS rules that birthright citizenship is *not* a constitutional right for certain groups, a simple law might not be enough to override that constitutional interpretation. However, it would force a new legal battle over congressional authority.

### 2. Judicial Reform (Court Expansion or Term Limits)

Given the current 6-3 conservative majority, some Democrats have proposed structural changes to the Court itself:

* **Expansion (Court Packing):** Increasing the number of justices from 9 to 13 (or more) would allow a Democratic president to appoint new justices who support the traditional interpretation of the 14th Amendment.
* **Term Limits:** There is growing bipartisan support (noted in recent 2026 polls) for **18-year term limits**. This would create a regular rotation of justices and potentially shift the court's ideological balance over time.
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>>534769084

### 3. Constitutional Amendment

This is the "gold standard" for overriding a Supreme Court decision, but also the most difficult to achieve.

* **The Process:** An amendment would require a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate, followed by ratification by **three-fourths (38) of the states**.
* **The Goal:** A new amendment could explicitly state that the 14th Amendment applies to all persons born on U.S. soil without exception, leaving no room for judicial "interpretation."

### 4. Jurisdiction Stripping

Under Article III of the Constitution, Congress has some power to define the types of cases the Supreme Court can hear.

* **The Strategy:** Democrats could attempt to pass legislation that "strips" federal courts of the jurisdiction to hear cases regarding the revocation of citizenship for those born in the U.S. This is a controversial and rarely used "nuclear option" that would likely trigger its own constitutional crisis.

### 5. Non-Cooperation and State-Level Protections

Blue states (like California and New York) have already signaled they may refuse to cooperate with federal efforts to strip citizenship.

* **State-Issued IDs:** States could continue to issue birth certificates and state-level documents that treat these individuals as full citizens, making federal enforcement (such as deportation or denial of benefits) logistically and legally difficult.
* **Litigation:** Democratic Attorneys General have filed dozens of lawsuits to tie up executive orders in lower courts, as seen with the multiple injunctions against the 2025 executive order.

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> **Note on the Legal Standard:** The current debate centers on the phrase **"subject to the jurisdiction thereof"** in the 14th Amendment. Opponents argue this excludes children of undocumented immigrants; proponents (and most legal scholars) argue it only excludes children of foreign diplomats and invading armies.
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>>534769787
>AI slop
didn't read any of it
use your own words
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>>534769836
While they likely won't be able to stop the SCOTUS vote there are many ways to stop it from taking effect, which are listed above.
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>>534765259
I listened to the oral arguments last night. It may get struck down.
Ketanji Brown sounded like she was a defense attorney; literally handing arguments over to the defense of the statute who started her argument with, "Everybody knows..."
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>>534769759
nigger, if I gave a shit what AI thought of the subject I'de shoot myself
because it would mean I'm a worthless asshole who cant think or research for themselves like you are
fuck off with that shit
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>>534769759
>Executive order 1488
Missed opportunity desu
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>>534770412
The key moment in the Oral Arguments is when Gorsuch directly quotes Elk v. Wilkins and says
>That sounds a lot like the Trump Administrations Argument
That's when it was over for Birthright Citizenship for illegals and temporary visa jeets
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>>534767413
>congress could pass a law
That'd take years
>an amendment
Never.
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>>534770412
B
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>>534770608
you're probably right, dems would just try and cheat thier way into the presidency for 2028 and reverse it with thier own EO
we need a REP super majority to codify it for long term viability
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>>534770412
ketanji was always going to vote against
I believe she weakens arguments when she tries to help them
this is going to be on ACB and Kavanaugh
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>>534765125
SCOTUS will do what they always do and not do their FUCKING JOB on anything to help USA or Americans.

This ain't like Gay Marriage, if you get my drift.

They will issue a half-assed ruling that says "if legislatures do a bunch of shit everyone knows will never happen, THEN maybe".

Fun Fact: in real cases, if one Party (like US Govt in this case) has CLEARLY acted towards another Party (like Wetbacks/Anchor Babies in this case) that something that COULD be legal is legal, that is a very strong argument that it is in fact legal.

Sorta like you can't just have cops show up to normal foot traffic on a NYC sidewalk and read the riot act and expect those arrests to result in convictions.

The fact that Trump Admin signed spending bills that included lots of Welfare for Anchor Babies shows "he seemed to think they are US citizens, and told them they were, and created a DEFACTO CONTRACT including Consideration."

If Trump has "legal standing", then every Anchor Baby who was treated as a US citizen now has unlimited legal standing to sue US Govt forever and ever for 'reparations' among other shit.

Of COURSE Trump Admin goal was to fuck this up as bad as possible in favor of flooding USA with shit. They are all JEWS.
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>>534771040
>Trump Admin goal was to fuck this up as bad as possible in favor of flooding USA with shit
couldnt they have just done nothing in that case?
I think you OD'd on the black pills my friend
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>>534770991
Ketanji will be a major reason WHY the other justices will vote in Trumps favor on this case.
The other justices have had enough of her bullshit and nobody believes that she belongs in that chair, her antics have increased partisanship inside the supreme court which will directly influence the rulings by so called "trumps" justices.

This is evidenced by Alito directly calling out Jackson for her bullshit in her recent dissent.
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>>534771151
no, fucking up a case SETS PRECEDENT, and now everyone says "that was submitted, measured and found lacking" just because it sorta sounds like the real issue.

When SCOTUS fails, you are going to hear "SETTLED LAW!!!" from every Jewish media, and Law School.

Fun Phack: I happen to know LEGAL Chinese and Hindu parents of "US born" children and not sure about details but they seem to think they need to pay lawyers to make sure their kids are going to be full US citizens when they turn 18.
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>>534765125
Trump won't do shit
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>>534771761
he did this shit last year
this is on SCOTUS now
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>>534771040

There is something about her face that just turns me off, maybe because I'm also a Jewish Latino, just seeing someone who vaguely looks like my blood relatives makes me flaccid.



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