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What is Wales and why do they have a dragon as an emblem?
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Because you touch yourself at night.

Checkem
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>>534766699
I don't think that's why but I guess I have to agree now
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>>534766655
Because Here Be Dragons
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>>534766655
They’re like the last remnants of the celts. Anglo saxons couldn’t conquer them, Vikings couldn’t conquer them and neither could the Norman’s.
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>>534766997
They just didnt want to
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>>534767065
still remains the truth, compared to most "oppressed natives groups" the welsh can claim a legitimate and deserving protection of culture and demographics
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>>534766655
Something I've noticed is that the British NEVER respond to British bait threads. I'm not sure why.
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>>534767909
How is this a bait thread Im honestly just curious
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>>534766997
How do you think wales became part of the UK?
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>>534768589
Welsh are the true Britons. You English are just northern Germans.
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>>534768589
They had a few wars but I think it was through marriage to the royal family.
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>>534770790
Cumbrians and devonians deserve a honorary celt title
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>>534766655
The land of my forefathers
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>>534766655
Dragons are real but Wales is fictitious.
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>>534770892
hohoho no, gods no
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>>534768589
didn't william the conqueror.. conquer them?
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>>534766997
>couldn't conquer them
Who the fuck do you think built all the castles?
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>>534770790
The Cornish and North-West English are true Britons, too.
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>>534768589
The Normans.

>>534771473
The Normans.

Why do I know your history better than you?
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>>534766655
Unironically the native niggers of the UK, banished there in the past.
Some of their women are very beautiful although both sexes have major anger issues
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>>534770790
As a German-British-American, I will take that.
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>>534766655
It’s a British lion heathen
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>>534766655
the native britons were forced into wales by the anglo saxons. They deserve repartitions. The welsh-britons should be given their land back.
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>>534771907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8G4xrYfWmw
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>>534766655
Satan worshipers mostly. They seem to pride themselves for being witches and pagans.
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>>534771354
He started the process but it took several generations to fully subjugate the welsh. Also wasn't actually a campaign of conquest waged by kings of England, but rather was a series of smaller private wars waged by the marcher lords the Plantagenet kings installed along the Welsh border. Wales took like 200 years to conquer because of the more gradual process, but the English kings did not have to pay for it, while enjoying the benefit of revenues from the newly conquered lands as tribute.

The Norman kings were a crafty bunch.
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>>534771180
>>534766885
What's the deal with the Dragon families and Phoenix families?
Heard it goes way back but can't find much with an internet search.
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>>534771570
Llywelyn took back all of Wales after the Normans invaded part of Wales, it wasn't until Edward Longshanks (braveheart guy for americans) they were fully conquered.
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>>534772141
Normans waged a centuries-long campaign of gradual subjugation. The Norman kings were actually rarely involved with it, because they didn't have the money to spare for an adventure in hilly, gloomy Wales. And Longshanks is more famous for crushing the scots than the welsh, but in any case he only took a heavy handed approach with both because he simply wished to end their resistance as quickly as possible so he could turn his attentions to more important matters (France).
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>>534767909
It's just some retarded shit skin doing it usually.
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>>534771570
>neither could the Norman’s
>The Normans.
READING COMPREHENSION

>>534766997
There's five other Celtic remnants and Wales is only doing better than two of them. Maybe only one considering Mann isn't even a part of the UK.
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>>534771088
100%
>>534771481
Cornish are culturally identical to the Welsh. Same with the Bretons. NW England was part of the Brittonic kingdom of Gododdin whom spoke old Welsh.
>>534771673
We are blood kin then. My Dad's side all came from Holstein and were Saxons. The same Volk that went to England.
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>>534766655
More importantly, why do they have town names such as llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
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>>534772364
But sometimes British-American Aryan Race Men want to ask questions about a nation that shareshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bs07OvqXp4 most of their DNA.
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>>534771673
all European ancestry in USA is Jewish btw, according to Henry Ford himself
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>>534772325
No way, Edward was in it for the love of the game.
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>>534766655
>country of whales
>dragon flag
the welsh are retarded
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>>534772473
Sometimes the demon alcohol gets the better of me. Let me course correct with two different songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bs07OvqXp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ4KMBA_ewU
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>>534772478
The joke's on you, I'm only 4 percent jew.
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>>534772641
Yeah but it's hard to calculate because they take the tests from the general population that is very washed out. For example Bibi may well be under 4% Jewish
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>>534772759
The Nazis were willing to let you live if they knew your jew blood could be fazed out. I also have red hair and blue eyes. Hitler would've let me live.
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>>534766699
CHECKED
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>>534766655
> visit Port Talbot looking for dragons
> turns out the only "dragons" there are the one's the Welsh can't stop chasing
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>>534772905
The truth is the Nazis were willing to let all Jews live, they just had to fuck off out of Germany
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>>534772513
>dislking for all celts
The concept of "celts" did not exist in the middle ages.
EthnoLARPing mong
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>>534773109
They weren't that organized. Hitler initially did the right thing by doing mass deportations. Where he went wrong was doing autistic gas chambers of those he deemed to be unworthy. He should've just kept the white-passing Ashkenazi sluts and then deported the mystery-meat.
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>>534773323
They wouldn't leave, that was the problem. I would have been right out of there
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>>534772553
Baste Moonie
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>>534773692
I remember when that was first posted
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>>534766699
BASED
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>>534773323
This little jew faggot needs gassed for real still believing the holohoax gas chamber story in 2026.
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I am Welsh (black)
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>>534766655
I love the Welsh, when i travelled to Chubut Province i was surrounded by them and it make feel like i was among First Worlders for the first time in my life, beautiful people, although what the British tried to do with them by erasing their beautiful language was down bad
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>muh Celtic blood
>muh Cornish blood

Nobody on this island is pure anything unless you and your ancestors have lived a Hills Have Eyes style existence in a fucking cave for the last thousand years.

If you are fortunate enough to have access to a detailed genealogical study of your family, you are almost certainly going to realise you have ancestry from all over the UK. That you were born and live in one particular area doesn't mean your bloodline has always historically been tied to that area.
Take Cornwall for example - if the so-called "Cornish" were truly a distinct group they would be more inbred than a Pakistani in Bradford due to 10/15/20 generations of inbreeding kek
And before any faggot gets offended by this, I have family down there... As do I have family in Scotland. And Wales.

If I see a stinky anon trying to make himself feel special by insisting he's "Cornish not British" he's gonna catch these hands, so help me God.
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>>534766655
That looks like a ghost accusing St George's Channel of blasphemy.
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>>534776562
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>>534772451
For tourism
Locally we call it llanfair or llanfairpwll or llanfair PG
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>>534766699
Oooooooooh.

Fuck the English. You Welsh lads are alright though.
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>>534776562
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>>534766655
weakest man of wales btw
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>>534777198
I don't usually like fantasy, but the man who drew that image knew everything that's important in life..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7T4aQMxTTM&list=RDveRHPL9xFpY&index=2
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>>534766655
Can I get a qrd on life in the UK? Is it actually full of muslims even in rural areas or just the cities?
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>>534777422
You been listening to too much Tommy Robinson
There are a lot more Indians than Muslims here
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>>534777422
Muslims are an obnoxious presence but they’re not as numerous as jeets and blacks and other non-muslim migrants.
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>>534777618
>>534777926
I should have said shitskins in general. Between indians/muslims/blacks, is it even livable anymore?
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>>534770790
The English are 70% Celt.
Anglo/Norman is an ethnolarp. Only 10% of Englishmen have a Germanic male haplogroup.
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>>534777618
As if that's supposed to be better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsyiMn6OPQA
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>>534771570
brits cant accept the fact their country was made by french vikings
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>biggest political parties in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales are pro independence separatists
Based Nigel
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>>534766655
The original England flag before Christcucks appeared.

>>534776562
There are slight distinct genetic differences across the isles and no i am not educating you on it, it was wide spread knowledge just 10 years ago. Even the Egoynomist was talking about it. Multiple papers. Not quite the huge sub-species differences between certain niggers and non-niggers that’s wider than coyotes and wolves but subtle enough.
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>>534767909
We're too high to fall for them.
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>>534766655
It's where Hogwarts is located
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>>534766655
thar be dragons
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>>534771481
>The Cornish
Cornwall got absolutely bodied by the railways and really hasn't been a distinct polity since the 1800s tbqh
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>>534778918
The English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh are all around 70-75% Celt and 25-30% Germanic.
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>>534779129
i played a ck2 mod once, and it was in scotland. well kinda. it was set up as a merchant republic inside of scotland, so that it worked more like a "school" instead of a kingdom. pretty cool idea desu. made me wish i gave more of a shit about harry potter. it had all the obscure lore characters in it that you could start as
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>>534766655
I wish i knew more about the Welsh. It really isnt taught
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>>534779433
Need to get back that ASoIAF mod on ck3 with the Others, was kino but you need a phd to make sure everything is updated to the right update/mod. Even them on easy mod you get rekd play House Hightower.
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>>534766655
>What is Wales
The last remnants of celtic briton
>why do they have a dragon as an emblem
Because dragons are cool
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>>534777198
also the fairest Welshman
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>>534779474
>I wish i knew more about the Welsh. It really isnt taught
Oh yeah
Paham y rhoddaist inni'r tristwch hwn,
A'r boen fel pwysau plwm ar gnawd a gwaed?
Dy iaith ar ein hysgwyddau megis pwn,
A'th draddodiadau'n hual am ein traed?
Mae'r cancr yn crino dy holl liw a'th lun,
A'th enaid yn gornwydydd ac yn grach,
Nid wyt ond hunllef yn dy wlad dy hun,
A'th einioes yn y tir ond breuddwyd gwrach.
Er hyn, ni allwn d'adael yn y baw
Yn sbort a chrechwen i'r genedlaeth hon,
Dy ryddid gynd sydd gleddyf yn ein llaw,
A'th urddas sydd yn astalch ar ein bron,
A chydiwn yn ein gwayw a gyrru'r meirch
Rhag cywilyddio'r tadau yn eu heirch.
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>>534779474
look up Brigid and work back from there, most is only really preserved in Irish folklore nowadays and is all mythy.
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>>534779611
>you need a phd to make sure everything is updated to the right update/mod
and/or you need to install your mods on some specific half updated repack thats impossible to find lol
i havent been able to play that elder kings mod on ck2 since i dont even know when
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>>534779820
>most is only really preserved in Irish folklore nowadays and is all mythy
i think the mabinogion and arthur myth is a better place to start first. IMO. while the irish have their myths in a 'more' pure sense ...its still christians writing and there are vast differences between welsh/irish
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>>534779410
>The English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh are all around 70-75% Celt and 25-30% Germanic.
the further west you go the less true that is
and the irish are basically 100% celt aside from the viking raiders in some parts of the country
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>>534777926
This anon gets it. The UK has a JEW problem immediately followed by a SHITSKIN problem, exclude the Jews from everything and then you can remove all the shitskins including the Muslim minority among them. Don't fall for Tommy Rabbison's multicultural anti-Sharia or Rupert Lowe's Zionism unless you want to die as slaves surrounded by NIGGERS.
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>>534766655
Because they are based sheepshaggers who don't give a fuck.
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>>534780753
All of Western and most of Central Europe and a good chunk of Eastern Europe is Celt. Austrians are 61.4% Celt. Germans are over 50% Celt. Hungarians are 45% Celt.
White Europe is genetically almost the exact same as it was 2000 years ago, during the Roman era.
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>>534777618
From what I understand Tommy Robinson doesn't give a shit about Indians and wouldn't care so long as they aren't Pakistani
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>>534781076
No disagreements.
The problem is the definition of 'german' as much as 'celt'.
I mean if you really get down to it celts are just 'proto-germans'. they come from the same area of continental europe, they just left earlier.
'germany' are really an 18th century invention (one i'm not opposed to)
but when we're talking differences here we need to remember our common connections are all from bell beaker. And that is the true 'western' europe..
I love germans and I love celts (really all europeans even slavs and meds)
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>>534766655
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbjaWV30zKk&t
why havent you seen the dragon?
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>>534779474
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>>534781374
Germanic is a misleading term because it really just means Scandinavian.
It’s associated with I1A haplogroup.
And yes Celts could be considered proto-Germanics. They didn’t go anywhere. The Gauls are still in the same place. Even moreso maybe than the Romans estimated. Even the Normans and Anglos were only around 1/3 Germanic to begin with. Celts just became the bulk of the DNA in mainland Europe. Meds have their own thing going on. Same with East Slavs.
The main 4 DNA groups in Europe are Celtic, Germanic (Scandinavian), Slavic and Med. It’s pretty shrimple.
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>>534779474
.
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>>534781597
Proto-Germans* makes more sense in agreement with
>>534781374
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>>534779474
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merthyr_Tydfil

I was born here. 3000 years on the map
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>>534781597
>The main 4 DNA groups in Europe are Celtic, Germanic (Scandinavian), Slavic and Med
AND..... one group people like to leave out because ya know.
All europeans are all still like 50-60% ANF/EEF. We identify with the Indo-european invasion but forget the WHG/farmers in the cuck shed who still are a large size of our genetics.
Stonehenge culture goes all the way back imo to the same culture of gobekli tepe
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>>534772992
jej
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Also interesting is the Romans described many of the tribes of Germania as being gingers.
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>>534781830
>>534781597
>All europeans are all still like 50-60%
I should widen that range btw. more like 20-80
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>>534781374
From what I can tell the real Celts originated north of Italy hence a) the Celtic languages being the most closely related to Latin and even being part of a hypothesized Italo-Celtic branch, and b) the strongly Alpine phenotype common among low class Brits (think the "Norf FC" man). Whereas the Germanic peoples originated around Denmark and further north so they are Nordics through and through, and expanded into former Celtic lands only later on, and while the Celtic languages are closely related to Latin, the Germanic languages contain a large amount of isolate, non-Indo-European words, further showing what a different people they are in their origins.
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>>534782003
Doesn’t fit since Celts were described as mostly blond by the Romans and Greeks.
The Romans used to paint their faces White with chalk and wear white horsehair wigs to try and impersonate Gaul characters during plays.
The dark phenotype among Welsh is due to some of them taking Bronze Age Spanish wives before migration to the British isles.
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>>534782003
I agree with this too. the itallic-celt connection is real from what I can tell when I look at it.
however the celts went on both sides of the alps (hallstatt culture) and i do think the itallic connection could be from trade alone. but it doesn't have to be. good stuff.
>think the "Norf FC" man
the only thing I ever do
>>534782190
>The dark phenotype among Welsh is due to some of them taking Bronze Age Spanish wives before migration to the British isles.
the cheddarmeme is real to an extent like tom jones. I think the dark complexion is more WHG holdover. but who knows
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>Scientific evidence strongly suggests that Bronze Age steppe migrants (Yamnaya culture) who arrived in the Iberian Peninsula (modern Spain and Portugal) around 2,500–2,000 BC took local Bronze Age Spanish women as wives, leading to a profound transformation of the local genetic makeup.
>Scientific and historical evidence suggests that the ancestral population of the Welsh—and the British Isles more broadly—migrated from the Iberian Peninsula (modern-day Spain and Portugal) thousands of years ago.
Explains why the Welsh are the only British isles population with any Iberian DNA.
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>>534782330
huh, so I guess its EEF, not just WHG.. This is assuming that welsh test higher for those two groups and less indo-european though
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>>534782330
Are the Basque related to them?
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interestingly to note. sardinians are like 85% EEF. they're also very short people for european standards.
That's what most of europe was like before milk.
that's what a good portion of our genetics are.
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>>534782190
That's why I meant by "the real Celts" as opposed to the Atlantic peoples misleadingly labeled "Celts" when they're basically a Mediterranean expansion acclimated to the cloudy Atlantic. But they did historically speak Celtic languages although before that it perhaps something like Basque.
>>534782321
Yeah I saw an anon saying the Roman gladius was from the Celts but I dunno. I find it funny that I googled Alpine phenotype and I immediately got that one British girl in the middle to my point.
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the school i went to had two fresh off the boat welsh immigrants. now that i think of it, like a third of my class were immigrants from the british isles. this was only like 15 years ago.
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Fuck my writing is a mess right now... it's my Friday and it's been a long week, signing off.
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>>534782899
I see what you mean. but that top left corner with the pondering yid with the camera (yes he is jewish).. is just a skinwalker. the celt phenotypes are some of the widest imo. that's why I think its almost lazy to lable everyone 'celt'. but i digress
>>534783006
no worries, im drinking so my typing is fucked too. its saturday oh well. nice talking to you anyways
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>>534766699
damn
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>>534782899
>Roman gladius was from the Celts
its in the name
>gladius hispaniensis
literally 'Hispanic-type sword'
fascinating. its celt-iberian



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