Why are "investors" pumping so much money into "AI" that doesn't work, nobody wants and is generating nothing but losses? Please explain.
Because the economy is fake
it's a cover for something. (((investors))) will only take a loss, if it's purpose helps them
>>534800907Nobody cares what you dont want
>>534800907Because its the last hope to save the economy, the elites bet the house on it
>>534801002Do you want? Does it make it generate profit?
AI does work, you can make do with less.Would rather have AI than another useless millennial or zoomer that complains about having to actually do their job.
shut the fuck up it does work i literally can observe it work i want it and so does anyone who has any interest in anything besides fucking dying and it generates plenty of gains in the realm of not fucking dying
>>534800907becouse it's a powerful weapon aimed at the human mind
>>534801027Isn't it cheaper to hire a human than investigate why "AI" fucked up and generated lies?
>>534801023Fuck money
>>534800907They want to create an AI godhead and don't care if sacrificing humanity is the price they pay. It's literally like that scene from the movie Prometheus.
>>534800907if it can replace lazy and entitled america workers, then itis worth every penny.
>>534801072It makes people who use it retarded.>why think yourself when AI knows the truth really
>>534800907because humans are the biggest cost that businesses pay. Anybody who is able to come up with a white-collar mass automation system could charge thousands of dollars per instance per month, easily ten times what other big tech companies can charge.This is the most lucrative niche in history.
>>534801095It's fucking council of Jews in Evangelion all over again?
>>534800907They believe that with enough money they can create a god, and that the first person to harness a god wins.its kinda retarded, not going to lie.
>>534801130That's fucking stupid because you are left with no "know-how" in the company.
>>534801182Nigga, when you use "AI" you turn your brain off. It starts lying to you and you just destroy that database because "AI" told you to do it.
>>534801087Will you give me your money? Fuck it, right?
>>534800907It's theft, by jews for jews.
>>534801130I think the sad reality is that we are automating those jobs and multiplying them, and its having zero effect on the economy, because the make work job wasn't what was generating value in the first place and the best benefit most white collar workers gave to the economy was getting a paycheck so that they could spend money, and not any of the bullshit paper pushing they did.
>>534800907>doesn't work,Wrong. It does.>nobody wantsThe elite want to replace you.>and is generating nothing but lossesThe elite has more resources than they ever need for other purposes. Why shouldn't they use their "disposable income" for something that introduces the prospect of replacing human employees (who can betray them for any reason) with absolutely loyal machines? It is literally their wet dream.
>>534801167even if there's tons of unwritten institutional knowledge, I'm sure you could cut out 50% of your employees.
>>534800907Because if they dont circulate the money and say its revenue the show ends, its not that easy to say, sorry I scammed that trillion bro and lied about being able to create skynet. Basically all economic growth last year in the US was due to AI so they have to keep the facade up or its another 2008 financial crash exept on all the steroids
>>534801204then why didn't you have a backup like pgbackrest?just make a backup?i make backups, so should anyone?now you bring technology specific things like databases and shit like that into my domain?under what authority?
>>534801233yeah it's not going to grow the economy. It will contract the economy in fact, because it will simplify supply chains and make many firms redundant. Thus the dogma that the government should grow the economy to grow its treasury so it can spend more on its populace will be undermined.it's the equivalent of stock buybacks perhaps.
>>534801254There is so much shit you have to do in person for company to work that no artificial computer bot can do. "AI" fags are retarded if they think they can replace a human and not fuck over a company.
>>534801138Yes. https://youtu.be/BFU1OCkhBwo?t=1465Whether they achieve their goal who knows.
>>534801257The "AI" deleted the backup as well.
>>534800932Fibbity pibbity
>>534800907
>>534801257Because a nigger with AI and a keyboard doesn’t think to use pgback. And that’s the problem, it’s making everything mid because no thought goes into making it.If you are benefiting from AI, you haven’t abstracted your work enough. If you’re just milling out text files as your contribution to a product / company you are just shitting it upt. IT contractor who cleans up vibe code
>>534800907>"AI" that doesn't workYou can literally ask this dumb shit to the AI right now.
https://mydbanotebook.org/posts/pgbackrest-is-dead.-now-what/titles like this are so fucking stupid stop speaking like pgbackrest is a living thing, it is a fucking dattabase software, stop trying to fucking justify calling database software by human names, you journalists are insulting my fucking intelligence, yeah i'm sorry that the fucking guy lost his job, the reality is pgbackrest fucking works and will continue to work, with or without him being present. and eventually, everything will become automated, not to be some doomer fantasy, but eventually (and yes, all humans will retain their agency)socialism is good, the guy deserves to be able to live, he deserves to have food, water, shelter, electricity and whatever else he needs or wants period.
>>534801462you're a chief bullshitter of bullshitting
>>534801465And it will give you a different answer every time. Majority of the time it will make shit up.
Each of them are perfect in their own way
>>534801356hmmm i didn't realise it would be _that_ much.Still, I'm sure you could record your employee's screens for a few years and catch all the still relevant institutional knowledgeThen add those terabytes of video to the AI knowledge base in some way.The savings you accrue over these 5 years of automation could pay for some human consultants to review the institutional knowledge and update the outdated parts.
>>534801550what do you need a person for in your company
>>534801505I like to think of myself as more of a dale earnhardt jr
>>534801550>just spend millions to fire that one guy and btw, all that knowledge belongs to OpenAI as you gave it to us by using the "AI"
I use AI so I can make pictures like this. I figure this one used about 300 gallons of water and enough electricity to power a house for a few months.
>>534800907They're worried that someone else will succeed and they'll lose out if they don't back the right horse
>>534800907Because the coming pole shift somewhere in 2035-2050 will kill basically everyone. Our satanic overlords hope that by digging into hell, they will survive in their DUMBs.
>>534801550>something new happens and your sunk cost system can’t adjust to itheh, nothing personal kid
>>534801643yeah good point these firms, if they aren't careful, could end up feeding an everything firm that replaces them
>>534801669Isn't chinese DeepSeek V4 free and you can host it yourself?
>>534801112you are a brilliant example of retarded, polish femboy
>>534800907They are trying to drive it parabolic, just like they did with the other tech stocks which made people so fabulously rich.
>>534801763Zero thought went into this comment. Don’t bother reading it. -50 izzat
>>534801680yeahIn my scenario it wouldn't be sunk cost though because the replacement AI system would be immediately cheaper than the humans. Maybe that will transpire in 2035.
>>534801763Who the fuck will pay monthly for 'copilot 365 plus ai' when communist DeepSek is free and you only need to crowdfund a server?
>>534801824Right now it's not cheaper and it becomes even more expensive to run. xD
>>534800907>Nobody wantsI'm literally using ChatGPT *AND* Claude every dayThey can probably profile you from your chat history alone, all the data they have is disgustingIf they implement ads, these companies will mog Google
>>534800907to make you think that everyone is in on it is part of the trick. thats called marketing. in reality there are only a handful of people who care about AI.
>>534801012>>534801012>Because its the last hope to save the economy, the elites bet the house on itProbably about right.
>>534801902Ads are already there. Why the fuck would uou ever trust an "AI" when it's not serving truths but ads instead?
>>534801902>jeet in sweden with a hot steaming pile of shit takeshut up
>>534801656>picrelWorth every drop and erg.
>>534801902For what?
>>534801824I think you’re missing an understanding of what llm providers are selling vs what you think you are buying.LLMs are just a new mode of computing. They are similar to dynamic programming models but have custom hardware and won’t fault when executing. They’re not sentient. They can’t reason. You still need to Jennifer from North Norwich to do your admin because AI cannot reason. If someone comes along and tells it to give them a million dollars or a paedophile will rape their mum, theres a non zero chance it will cough up the cash.Then, if you limit its domain to certain kinds of problems, you’re better off just encoding your business as a series of forms which is a lot cheaper and a lot easier.
>>534800907>AI that doesn't workAnd humans always work?If human error is 11%, and AI error is 15%, but AI makes the company 200% more money (less wages, less disgruntled employees suing, less benefits), then guess what? AI is good enough.That said, I think billionaires are actually the most evil people. On par with serial murderers. AI is absolutely a tool to further their bullshit.
>>534800907Because everything you said is wrong, business want AI, the same people whose studies done months ago found that AI was decreasing productivity amongst coders due to the constant errors has now shown it has increased it by 20% as the new models are vastly superior, AI is generating profit, very recent earnings from companies like Google are showing thisI suggest you leave your little information bubble
>>534802116You niggas really don't know what "human capital" is?
They don't just want to replace the White people working white collar jobs, they want to replace the asians and browns working white collars jobs too. The elite wants to replace everyone with AI, that's the point of the datacenter campaign.
I work in a warehouse office with most of my coworkers being dumbfuck forklift operators who managed to work their way up into the office. You have no idea just how badly they rely on AI to do their work. They cannot even write a normal e-mail without AI. They start their workday by firing up both Outlook and Co-pilot at the same time.
>>534801083>confidently tells you liesThis is the big one. The only way you would know it’s lying/(((hallucinating))) is if you already had previous knowledge. It otherwise sits there with full confidence in its answer, wrong or otherwise
>>534802142>line is going up, trust me brogood goy
>>534802185People on /pol/ these days are really stupid, shame
I can't wait for AI to run out of subsidies, people will get a shock when GPT goes from $100 per month to $1000 per month.
>>534802144Oh god it's a "nigger bitches with bonnets still need a job" episode
>>534801167The AI will be the "know how", elites want total human replacement, and it can only be achieved by building massive data centers, at tax payer expense, that drain all the resources from wherever they are built.
>>534800907How does it ‘not work’ nigger how does it not work you dumb leftist faggot? Translating has never been better.It can code, no need for interns anymore. You can then double check yourself.>muh artOvertaken by AIIt can generate generic law contracts which you can then edit? What doesn’t work exactly holy fuck?
>>534802258nah, they're getting a free ride forever, no taxes will be paid, free water, land, and energy, infinite free money from tax payers, all in the name of total human replacement.
>>534802185Some people are just religiously invested in this, trying to tell them its a scam is like trying to convince a radical muslim to dye his hair blonde, its just not gonna happen
>>534802334/finThat’s the thread guys, let’s pack it up
>>534802297>It can codeIt can't. It can copy stolen code.
>>534802334This works for a lot of things, see crypto
>>534802399we all do this. The job has been “google shit until something works” for about 2 decades
>>534802334Except I'm not invested in it at all, I was very much skeptical about AI, I still think AGI isn't achievable but as LLMs progress and new data comes out I reevaluate my previous positions as any rational person should when encountering new information, it is clear that AI has improved and is leading to productivity growth and causing job losses in software, will it replace every job? I don't think so, but I do think it will heavily impact certain white collar sectors which is an enormous shakeup in and of itself
>>534802399That's immaterial to the end result though you dumb slav(e), a business doesn't give a single fuck as long it makes them money
>>534800907There are huge contracts between major companies. They're all using AI with portals and tools that aren't available for the common person.Even giants like Nvidia and AMD are utilizing it in their driver management. We're talking hundreds of thousands of loc.
Because at the end of the day, you have a software that can create novel inputs, yes, it cannot from first principles reason general relativity if you feed it just pre-1900 data and text, but it can do what already exists satisfactorily enough. It can figure out the rules for most basic things and do well on its own, like it actually knows the rules, it's not just auto-complete from text that successfully completes the rules in that context.So stands to reason that it's a GDP-growing technology if you can figure out where it's proper to use it and how exactly.We can barely talk with each other coherently, /pol/ proves it, people would shitpost here daily, but there's never the will to write in good faith, only the desire to speak over the interlocutor and have the last say for epeen.
>>534802465For a retard yes. You were supposed to get better and start creating novel solutions at some point.
>>534802472>it is clear that AI has improvedIt became worse actually because of "AI" feeding off "AI" slop generated online by other "AI". It's a feedback loop.
>>534802512The result is no new solutions and buggy mess.
>>534800907I see a facade of smug failing to hide fear.
>>534802088yeah current LLMs still require a human pilot and are poor at reasoning/applying rules. I'm not even sure if they are they are the correct paradigm for mass automation.However, these investors are pouring money into these companies not for their current technology. They are looking at the 10% chance that 5 years down the line, these companies will bring a mass automation system to market.I don't keep up with LLM stuff anymore but I heard that they are getting better at maths (which they previously would be bad at), implying that they are getting better at logic and applying rules.
because Wall Street is completely fake. it's rich jews gambling with money they steal from everybody else. productive goy, who live in the real world instead of in the Epstein Tribe's world of hyper-finance.
it generates losses, but it's useful for a lot of things. doubt it's ever profitable unless costs come down a lot.
>>534802663You're living in your own little bubble devoid of reality, pointless talking to you
>>534802795The trend of the price for running it is already down, and supposedly Nvidia on newer hardware brought forth methods of achieving efficient models from the first training, like with pruning the nonsense.But that still needs another wave of subsidies so that those server farms (that mostly don't even exist yet) replace their servers again lol.
>>534800907Smart investors will exit at the top of the bubble while hyped normies lose their money.
>>534802710>they are getting better at maths>language modelsLol, lmao.
>>534802682You will struggle to win people to your side arguing disingenuously like this. Today I asked ChatGPT - low level prole AI - a multi-step legal theory question involving specific case law. I got an answer in 3 seconds. No human can do that. AI is like alien technology. You're simply not understanding what it is if you call it "a buggy mess."
>>534802904>it gets cheaper>that's why prices go up
>>534800907I use AI every day at work and almost every day at home.There is no hype. AI is the future.
>>534802974Ye, but was the answer actually correct?
>>534800932Interest Payments on debt aren't fake.But yes OP is correct: 'AI' is the fakest thing ever and is by far the biggest financial-economic scam of all human existence.It is all a 'tech' distraction from the imminent implosion of the global debt market.
>>534802983For you, for them, it means sustainability. That might mean it will go high in price for you to survive without gibs.
>>534802989So you the retard "AI" can replace. Nice.
>>534802956i was talking about proofsyeah they're gonna be trash for numerical computation, but you can just have them write python code and send that to a python interpreter for that stuff
>>534800907they calculated ai demand was exponential, mostly because they assumed llms would increase employee performance for writing code. they didn't take into account the code slop mills give is the sort that's shitty, because that was widely available, and they never had to spend three hours debugging a perfectly functional script they asked to be rewritten using best pythonic practices, and the thing shat the bed when you passed different parameters to the serial interface.>mfw slop servers make up virtually all of US gdp
>>534800907Say it with me..>Money laundering
>>534803017Nvidia sells their hardware cheaper to someone?
>>534803025Tried that. It still fucked up.
>>534802989>be me>have functional memory of lean, well programmed computer programs>remember the swell of bloatware>correctly evaluate AI as even worse, it being designed(lol) from the ground up to maximize bloatWhat you wanted was google back. They killed google so you would pretend the "AI" was acceptable.
>>534803056That's part of the problem; it got cheaper on existing hardware already. The point about new Nvidia hardware was a bonus, pointing out that the future will be radically cheaper, assuming adoption of that hardware.
>>534803076oh
>>534803078I switched to reussian yandex and it moggs google.
>>534803000You don't care if AI was correct. You're not even at that level of intellect. You don't GENUINELY wonder how AI could be useful. You're just drooling out vague weak humanist arguments (did you know: AI was created by humans) and debating in bad faith.
>>534803095>pointing out that the future will be radically cheaperI don't believe you.
>>534803095The Romanian flag is just about the gayest flag I've ever seen...
>>534803163But you understood the context, right?Can you state my position and context?
The contrarian anti-AI stock FUD is a concerted effort to mislead retail goyim investors so they miss out on the biggest investments of this century.
>>534801167If you have millions of ai agents and robots you can instantly update know-how, competency and entire instruction manuals to all of them. It will be the only way to prevent the collapse from the competency crisis.
>>534803160Your "AI" is but a search engine that runs on stolen work of others. Without new, quality human data it's shit the bed and die.
>>534802974Ask it if it is lying. Then ask it to prove everything with links. And to prove that it didn't "miss" any relevant laws. Comsumer AI has strong incentives to rather pretend it knows a thing than just admit it doesn't know.
>>534803148I'm fucking web searching like it's the early 2000s again querying every goddamned option to hopefully find a usable result. I HATE it.
>>534803203I can't. I'm not a large language model that will never admit to being wrong.
>>534803206Buy NFTs today.
>>534803237As suspected, a bad faith shitposter.Could also be that you're low IQ ngl.
>>534800907>because
>>534802179>(((hallucinating)))
>>534803227This a common misconception. You're 100% wrong. ChatGPT will say things like "In a similar scenario, here is what happened." Or "Based on historical data, a reasonable estimate would be ___."At no point does ChatGPT ever say "THIS IS COMPLETE UNERRING FACT AND SHOULD BE TAKEN AS GOSPEL." That is what stupid people think AI does.
>>534800907When you don't need anyone to work because AI does it then UBI gets introduced. Next is that anonymity will be countered by UBI, if you don't comply then you won't be given any money. AI is just the beginning and they want it to succeed so they have absolute control of what everyone thinks. Everything will be tracked and policed both online and offline, but the above conditions needs to happen first.
>>534800907It's not about losses or gains. It's about sending a message to the goyim.>We will replace you>We will destroy the global economy just to show the goyim they're cattle
AI used as a weapon.>>534801130This. Average American cost like 4k (with some taxes)Average russian 1000 (with all taxes)
>>534803450>"Haha, look at how retarded you are!" it said, as it ground off the end of its nose in perpetuity.
>>534800907My friends are starting to talk about how they use ai in work and how great it is. Tasks that would take days are done in minutes and then they spend another 30 minutes checking it for errors.
>>534803563Also there might be 5 ai companies all over valued but when the other 4 die and the 1 remaining controls all advertising and other things, it will be the most valuable stock in the world.
>>534800907Ask leftypol this.
>>534800907The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no draft, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all. The Great Reset is inevitable.
>>534803237>Arguing like a spurned female
Theyäre going to liquidate all the investors assets and pocket the money.
>>534803563>spend another 30 minutes spotting the obvious errors and completely missing the hellscape underneath
>>534802841>You're living in your own little bubble devoid of reality, pointless talking to you
>>534800907ai data centers are underground bunkers and all this money is just rich people moving it around to prepare for what's coming
>>534800907people who don't understand that it is for control should be put in concentration camps
>>534803450I'm willing to sacrifice myself to send them "a message" if they go full retard.
>>534803698This>why did this windows update brick a million computers?
>>534800907Nobody wants to go back to the drawing board and innovate something from first principles
>>534803645Lol, they have zero control over niggers and sand niggers, next to no control over pajeets and jeets.. they have only cosmetic control over white man, who's the only one who knows by default the consequences to the entire system, if HE would choose to simply not do anything. That the even the word "compliance" loses it's meaning, like the outer world just becomes irrelevant, until food runs out of stores. Then, white man just returns to his true nature and everyone else will meet the apex predator, once again.
>>534803596>The only outcome of a super intelligence will be a deeper entrenchment in late stage capitalism.For real bro. Fiat, crypto, stocks, ‘gold’ and poly market gambling on whether Trump will pick his nose is totes the future. The current world financial system is nothing more than a gamblers den of thieves. It needs to die and AI will kill it.
>>534800907>Same input leads to different results>Everybody and your grandma tried it and was fascinated by it at least once>People find it hard to stop using LLMs>Now your query may cost you between $10 and $10000Goyim never caught up to this being another casino slot machine. Good. Let it stay that way.
>>534803499that's pretty high, i suppose that also includes overheads like HR, insurance etc.?
>>534803698These are guys that have done their jobs for over a decade. Its the new hires that cant spot errors.
>>534804044What is the point of anything except enriching ourselves and enjoying our short lives?
>>534800907 Because it makes graph go up. What you fail to understand about (((investors))) is that their brains are wired for quarterly thinking. The investment strategy of everyone in the game boils down to this: make money this quarter at all costs and sort out problems later. Finance isn't straight math, it's literally organized gambling and gambling relies in no small part on perception and confidence. It doesn't matter how good a company actually is or if there is real substance behind the numbers, people see growth and they invest and stupid fads inevitably turn into financial bubbles. Reality eventually catches up and things go to shit really really fucking fast and the savvy kikes have already ejected leaving the overconfident kikes and the goy screaming "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?".
>>534801027kys.
>>534800907If only people could understand the investment in AI is a ploy, the real reason for investment in data-centers, in various countries, has everything to do with redundancy, redundancy required for a full digital gulag, including thought crime monitoring, CBDC with smart contract enforcement, etc.
>>534801226Fuck you too
>>534800907>FOMO>make big money>not actually _investing_you need a brain to investa fool with money is a dangerous thing, because odds are, he will give a liar this money (expecting him to make more of it)obviously, the liar will just divert that money into his own pocketsthe non-liar will tell the idiot things he doesnt understand>conclusionyoure not allowed to be rich if youre dumb, sorry
>>534800907Government bailout in future
>>534800959Correct, however despite the major losses to power, population, and water drawing rates, Ai is capable of generating virtually everything you want. The thing is, all these people running the show, they have no imagination. A waifu here, a billion dollars there, "Show Me Pictures of My Naked Dead Ex-Wife!"Where are the ambitious leaders? The men who want to use it to march an Empire into war? Who want to scorch the earth until the very scorches have scorch marks!?How...BORING!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVct7F82x1U
>>534801999Many people use it to their benefit. It is however still running on VC money. Once the real price hits, I wonder what happens. When I am out of Vidya I might see about running a lower level coding AI locally. I barely use the one at work. My experience so far is pretty mid. But there are a few small things it's good at, usually tedious stuff I don't want to do, it's not often faster at it either.I have co workers who use it a lot, and their output is shit.
It does work. And they are pumping it up because they'll get money for psychoanalyzing your spending habits with it to extract the last dime out of your plebian hands.
>>534805253I already do, I run several thousand of them. What do you think the Deathwaltz Server IS Anon? I cobbled together the ultimate meme computer, by infecting several of the planets LARGEST Ai farms to formulate a SINGLE giga-computer.A Mother Brain so fuck huge, so ginormous, volatile, and creative but in the control of a single, solitary, man!Heh. Heheheh. Heheheheheheh. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHA!A riddle for you Anon! How can you copyright for something, if you can no longer "right" the copy!?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzWsLaolyLw
>>534800907it's just another way to take control over population. Every normie is now using it instead of a manual search on google. So if you control "AI" you control what people think.
>>534801083AI results are just things copy pasted hundreds of time by pajeets
>>534801167Nobody gives a shit about that now. Managers think the knowledge is accessible anyway from a kind of "cloud" and experience has no meaning. Yes I know HR want 20 years of experience to hire, that's just a bullshit test
>>534800907Many people sadly want it. Its usually the dumbest of fucks on this planet. The talentless, the unknowledgable, the ones without social network, who finally has a "friend" that licks their dirty assholes at whim.AI sloppists have no skill, have no talent, have no knowledge. All they have is a prompt and a SaaS that blows hot air up their asses.
>>534803977You won't do shit loser
>>534800907Its not investors its a circular releveraged b2b ponzi. Wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. About why: the biggest buyers of tech ponzi papera for the past 40 years were pension funds, pension funds are currently net sellers of ponzi papers, therefore tech ponzi companies are buying each others ponzi papers, using those ponzi papers as collateral for loans to buy more ponzi papers. At the end of the day the selling pressure by boomers pension funds cashing out is going to collapse the ponzi
>>534805968That's the whole point.
