You can't tell me the goal of Russia's invasion was to fight for four + years then putter out like a rotting mango... Russia had hoped they would depose Zelensky in the first week of the war. They also hoped to capture some historically imporatnt churches and cathedrals.They did not yet even take all of Donbas.Now they are saying "It's over soon" at Putin's speech he said that Ukraine got stuck in a rut in Ukraine, not Russia. I think he is trying to make cope narratives because he realizes this can't go on... What a failure and total disgrace. Most dumb president? Maybe not dumber than Trump but I guess in Russia there's less institutional checks on a total idiot like Putin.... wow Russia really is just nothing in the end. I am shocked.
Yeah in about 3 years he will take donbass and claim victory
It will take another 10 years and 2 trillion dollars EU support to finally get to the last Ukrainian.
>>534804138it's just your typical zigger bravado, telling his zigger slaves that his mighty zigger army will obliterate ukraine in two weeks
>>534804138>Winning is when you lose over 1/3 of your land mass.Hohol cheerleaders are retarded.
>>534804138Cope. Russia has donbas. Ukraine lost.
>>534804255Like the typical fingoloid seething over russia every moment that they aren't drinking themselves into retardation?
>>534804339Winning for Ukraine is having their leader not deposed, EU accension accelerated, etc.Maybe Ukraine isn't going "We won!" but their goal was state survival. Russias goal was to depose Zelensky, annex up to Dneiper and put in a netural puppet leader in a rump state on left bank Russia failed. Russia lost. It's like saying Finland lost the winter war for instance. They lost land. But they were not the aggressor and Russia failed their major objectives. At the start of the war nobody in russia said "Our goal is to not even take all Donbas and leave zelensky nazi regime in power with accelerated accension to EU membership" Total failure...
>>534804380Russia's goal was de-nazification aka to depose Zelensky. Part of that was to annex land, but primarily to have a puppet rump state as well. This was a total failure. De-nazification looks unlikely to ever be achieved....
>>534804255This. It's was a statement for internal consuption >Join the army and get tha bonus before the war ends goy
>>534804138The goal was to get a bunch of whites killed for the jewish blood god. Putin and Zelensky were unified in that goal.
>>534804192I should move to Russia. The pull game seems insanely easy.
>>534804448>winning for ukraine is keeping their installed kike puppet leader ordering men to be snatched off the streets.Absolute mental illness. Russia could have just nuked kiev any time they wanted. They now own over a third of ukraine. You lost, tranny.
>>534804698Who installed Zelensky? For such an unpopular coup leader the Ukrainian people sure are fighting hard and winning. Where's the mass revolts to rejoin mother Russia? Russia lost. Ukraine will continue to exist. Ukraine will join the EU. Ukraine will allow NATO and Western armies on it's territory to guarantee security. Russia failed it's objectives. It's over...
>>534804698>OMG RUSSIA IS LOSING TO TRANNIESWhat does it say about Russia that an army of transexuals is slaughtering them like dogs?
>>534804780LOLIs that why he refuses to hold elections? And has banned opposition political parties? And has total control of hohol news? And there are literally thousands of videos of hohol meat catchers dragging unwilling men off the street? Go back with your reddit spacing, tranny.
>>534804894>Refuses to hold electionsDo you want him to break the Ukrainian constitution? Holding an election is not popular in Ukraine now because how would you hold such an election in occupied territories? >banned opposition political partiesNo... he banned parties recieving fundings from the agressor. Not opposition. There's still opposition parties>has total control of hohol newsNot true>And there are literally thousands of videos of hohol meat catchers dragging unwilling men off the streetAnd? Did I ever say there is no conscription?
>>534804894Russia is unable to beat a bunch of Jewish nazi reddit trannies. So much for the saviours of the white race...
>>534804983reddit is down the block and across the street
>>534804998>Russia is unable to beat a bunch of Jewish nazi reddit tranniesI agree, only ukranians do.
>>534804698>be vatnig>only men on your mindThat explains all the gay sex in Russia
>>534804138>So Ukraine won?Yup, the prize is tons of debt for Ukraine and NATO, and they get to keep the useless mud pits used to sacrifice slavs to demons by making them into drone bait.
>>534804894Australia has a significant number of Russian immigrants from back when the USSR fell unfortunately, some of whom are still bought into mothership propaganda despite having an infinitely higher living standard in Australia
>>534804138neither won. Both will have to give up part of their goals.
>>534804138I have a feeling he's just going to load those oreshnik missiles with some kind of low-yield nuke and take out some big military base or something. It seems like everyone is pretty sour on this war so he's going to come up with something the Ukies can't ignore.
>>534805055When talking about who wins you go from agressor. Ukraine's goal was state survival. Russia was the one who had objectives to be achieved hence why they invaded.In USA-Iran war, USA wanted to depose Iran. Even if Iran will come out from war with battered military resources they still will "win" in that the regime survived. If you want to say "nobody wins" sure but russia's loss is far more damning than Ukraine's given they are the agressor and failed their primary goals.
>Putin, once again, trying to force EU into submission, using energy crisis.it's_all_so_tiresome.jpg
>>534805130fair enough
>>534805203>>534804138>>534800620>filename>image dimensionposting in a bot thread(YOU)
>>534805823hq720 is when you take a yt tumbnail from google images
>>534804138They have Crimea and the land corridor they need to support it, there are massive gas deposits in the black sea that are now in Putin's hands. I don't see the point of fighting over some wasteland beyond this
>>534804138>Most dumb president?
>>534806353Not anymore they don't.
>>534805130>Ukraine's goal was state survivalThat's was Zelensky and regime goal not a country's goal. The regime of Ukraine survived due to large scale of repression against ukrainian population, but country of Ukraine lost because there are almost no more Ukrainians
>>534806707Germany made a mistake allowing russians like you in.
>>534804983Cope, redditranny. Everything I have said is true, while you have to tell lies. Oinkraine lost.>>534805053My family are all Scots and came here in the 1920s. Go back and get on the front.
>>534807525>My family are all Scots and came here in the 1920s. Go back and get on the front.Criminal scum didn't 'move' there. They were deported. Opinion disregarded.
>>534804138Haven't you noticed the Trump has been signalling to Putin for weeks with the whole Iran war, you can just say you won, even if your didn't?
>>534804138trust the plan
>>534806707>there are almost no more Ukrainianswhy is russia importing unlimited jeets, to replace all the dead russian men? Did you hope for this outcome of the war, pedrila?
>>534807851
>my job is done here.
>>534804138It's coming to an end because Hanta is going to kill everyone.
>>534805053Australia is like 50% white at this point, your talking about muh russian diaspora while probably being shitskinned
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Unconditional surrender, Ukraine annexes Russia.
>>534804138there is nothing more funny than retards like OP who only read headlines, then asks questions about said headline instead of checking the full quote or full contextpic related, this is what most western retards actually believe
they probably finished taking all the good oil and uranium already, probably also took all the fish from the water.is what they would do if it was a real country/war, but who knows.
>>534804448They took the fucking gas fields and Europe will probably buy expensive USA LNG. The real winner of the war was middle east and USA.
>>534804666The women have hiv and will steal from you
>>534804339Its not 1/3rd, its close to 20% half of which was already under russian control since 2014-15. Its even more bleak when you realize most of that land was taken during the first few months and since then they have advanced at a rate of a few metres per day while losing hundreds of soldiers
>>534808485They've been going backwards for a while now.
>>534804448>but their goal was state survivalThere were easier ways to achieve this without losing practically half the population. They would probably even had a chance to join NATO without any problems if they’d ignored the separatists from the start and hadn’t tried to openly provoke Russia like a bunch of thugs.Well, but here we are. I’m genuinely curious to see what will become of Ukraine after the war and what ideology they’ll adopt. It certainly won’t be Russian, they’ve already turned their backs on the West too and feel betrayed, and even the nationalists are losing influence as they’ve all either kicked the bucket or lost credibility.> Russias goal was to depose ZelenskyThere is literally no evidence of this. They were literally just outside Kiev and didn't even attempt to attack government buildings>It's like saying Finland lost the winter war for instanceYes, Soviet Union did win, in fact. Twice, no less. The first time they imposed territorial terms that Finland didn’t like, and the second time they actually sent them off to fight against their own allies. People rarely talk about this second part because it’s really awkward in every sense, from the Finns fighting on the side of the Nazis to them being forced to kill those very same Nazis who’d come to help them because Soviets kicked their asses.
>>534808538>if they’d ignored the separatists from the start and hadn’t tried to openly provoke Russia like a bunch of thugs.There were no "separatist", you retard.pidors invaded Crimea while lying how it's not their soldiers.They invaded from the east on the same year, while still lying how it's not their soldiers.
>>534808616All the authorities, police and military voluntarily handed over their weapons and assisted the military in Crimea.Russia helped arm the volunteers in the Donbas, but did not send in its own troops. Eastern Ukraine simply didn’t want to be part of this whole pro-Western revolution as they would only lose out from it.
>>534808929>did not send in its own troopsThere is no reason to repeat this blatant lie anymore. Or I will start talking about BPR and KPR militia and civil war against Moscow regime.>Russia helped arm the volunteers in the DonbasAt least "Donbas volunteers" didn't have to use cavalry like modern pidor army.
>>534809013>cavalryThey still have heavy armoured brigades. Here's a video of one loading for the front.
>>534804138>So Ukraine won?Kinda but not really. It's more like everybody lost.
>>534804138>losing 20% of your land means winningDo nafotrannies really?
>>534804448Finland DID lose the Winter War, you colossal retard.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
>>534809121>everybody lost.puccia is burning through a fortune to maintain an occupation of areas nobody in the world besides few shithole recognizes.Europe is arming to the teeth and heavily investing int oits own manufacturing base.MIGGER USA has been humiliated and told to fuck off, numerous times after tens of blunders, even when completely ignoring Europe/NATO-related issues like Greenland.Ukrainians viewed russians as the most favourable group before 2014, now they will hate them for centuries, and their lands will drift further away to West.A bunch of puZZian-allied shitholes have been destroyed/abandoned/humiliated.Pidors ravaged their own economy and international standing for no reason and with no goals in sight.Russian biggest political assets on the international scene are 3rd-grade fucking retards like Orban, Fico, Lukashenko, most of their support in the West or post-Soviet block has evaporated.Retard.
>>534809414You are a fucking subhuman imbecile.No wonder you are pro-russian.
>>534809502They lost territory... but given how little they lost and what USSR's goals were they won.
>>534809711Riiiight>Finnish concessions and territorial losses exceeded Soviet pre-war demands. Before the war, the Soviet Union demanded for the frontier with Finland on the Karelian Isthmus to be moved westward to a point 30 kilometres (19 mi) east of Viipuri to the line between Koivisto and Lipola; for existing fortifications on the Karelian Isthmus to be demolished and for the islands of Suursaari, Tytärsaari, and Koivisto in the Gulf of Finland and Rybachy Peninsula to be ceded. In exchange, the Soviet Union proposed to cede Repola and Porajärvi from Eastern Karelia, an area twice as large as the territories that were originally demanded from the Finns.[
>>534809559Nice melty faggot. Explain how losing 20% of your land is winning.PS: I'm not even pro-russia, I just like dunking on this "lalalala, we'll ignore reality cuz we don't like it" behaviour.
>>534809559genuine question, why are you nafotards like this? sticking fingers in your ears and screaming LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU when confronted with hard factsIt's disturbing and cowardly behavior
>>534804138>lost all of its male population. >replaced by indians>won.Someone won, for sure.
>>534804780rare flag
Time to import a billion jeets to make up for all those Ivans dying to drones.
>>534810076Explain to me how active military occupation of land equals to losing it, in the context of ongoing war aiming to reverse that and 0 (zero) chance of the original owners of that land or anyone in Europe (besides cretins like you, and Lukashenko) recognising that military occupation to be legitimate. >PS: I'm not even pro-russia,You're just a massive dumb imbecile. It's a very common condition, you shouldn't be ashamed.
>>534804138What's up with all the threads seething at russians today?
>>534810460>Explain to me how active military occupation of land equals to losing it, in the context of ongoing war aiming to reverse that and 0 (zero) chance of the original owners of that land or anyone in Europe (besides cretins like you, and Lukashenko) recognising that military occupation to be legitimateIts simple: recognition - ie opinions - doesn't mean shit, physical reality does.You're the most pathetic poster I encountered this month: you have the mental weakness and hysteria of a woman but without the charm.This is why we call you nafoTRANNIES: cuz you act like it.
>>534811788>physical reality does.They're not going to keep it though.
>>534812478Personally, I'm not seeing it, but:If that were to happen, then it'd be indeed russia loss.
>>534812565>Personally, I'm not seeing itOpen your fucking eyes you stupid fucking mong.
>>534811788The 'physical reality' is the fact that they're hollowing out their own country, are on a wartime economy in terms of military spending and already are forced to scale back, and exhausted a massive stockpile of military equipment, to maintain an occupation over a few shithole regions, that initially taken in a surprise attack few years ago, while none of the European countries got nearly close to any wartime economy, and not a single country supports their occupation. A country that matters, that is. >weLmao.Already called your shill subhuman ass 'an idiot', won't repeat myself. Your country is a shithole because it's inhabited by cretins like you. At least you're brave when abroad.Now go back to licking ass, faggot.
>>534804138>>534804448>Ukraine lost 1/3 of it's territory>has no power>major cities are bombed>they WON.Sure thing , hohol jew on VPN
>>534804780>Who installed Zelensky?CIA, Pentagon and NATO .Boomers wanted their last war against Russia, they decided they could win it.And they lost.
I don't think the war will end soon, the war ends when ukraine stops pushing their shit.
>>534804339Either Ukrainian and Iran both won, or they both lost. Watching brics trannies cope and seethe while breaking their brain trying to perform the mental gymnastics to say otherwise is hilarious.
>>534812593Effeminate tantrums won't dislodge them tho.>>534812680You are so easy its almost not funny. Almost.
>>534804480>Russia's goal was de-nazification aka to depose Zelensky.Totally wrong.De facto denazification was the removal of any Nazi assets from Ukraine's information and military fields.National battalions (azov dnepr kraken). ww2 ukranian nationalist battalions pardon and historical revision, local population pump "Glory to Ukraine, Death to enemies" which is originally ukranian nazi chantThis is buried now as "russian propaganda"Denazification Achieved.Ukraine even chose a Jewish president as a counter-narrative to bury nazi narrative of earlier days while Poroshenko cabinet was in charge.>annex land,Did in a way that UN jury and lawyers and cant dig under it. totally nailed.Sit down expat (F)
>wanted to occupy ukraine in "3 days">4 years3 days they said.
