Truck drivers cuz they like to sit?
>>534810798Daytrade because one on the team is American with American accounts.
Make an AI that designs hardware? idk lol
>>534810882>collect neetbux>collect money from friends>funnel the neetbux and money from friends to chicago to exploit American financial productsHoly shit I am a MASSIVE parasite
anything else, and they'd be better at it tooso it wouldn't be them out of a job it'd be everyone else
>>534810798Most people who are smart enough to be IT are still smarter than 99% of humanity. They will always find a top 1% job while you are stuck being a NEET, wagie or tradie. Have fun cleaning toilets.
>>534810798Robots will replace truck drivers before software engineers jam boy
>>534811472Wrong.They'll wipe out the administrative class.Which is good.Office people are worthless scum.
OP is a jeet by the way, he spam posts this topic regularly
>>534811332This. Tradesmen are lazy and stupid. If software engineers had to become tradesmen, our current tradesmen would lose their jobs.
i'd honestly fuck hard
>>534810798AI still makes tons of stupid mistakes - that doesn't appear to be ending any time soon and the AI still requires the guidance of an experienced software engineer to make any worthwhile piece of software. I'm not worried.
>>534810798They already are replaced they just haven't realized yet.The rest will be fired when the big monopolies realize.
>>534811801You think it’s hard to train an AI to drive on a road? They already do it. It’s the legal and insurance obstacles that are keeping it from happening currently. Like who is to blame when a semi driven by a computer plows into a sedan with a family of 5 inside at 80 mph.
>>534811999Cope cope copeNeccesity is the mother of invention. We will find ways to fix it and make it better.
>>534811801Yeah like the other guy said they already have AI taxi driving services. It literally is only a matter of time before they figure out how to deploy freight trucks without driversThe future of humanity is to take away menial tasks, not create more of them
>>534811801My dad is a truck driver and he constantly says shit like >office work ain't real work because you sit at a desk all day and I'm like dad are you fucking stupid? You sit at a wheel all day doing even less??He's a big qnigger too. I love him but he's retarded.
>>534810798Mouth breathers will say something stupid like learn how to program AI or how every new industrial revolution created more new jobs. This time it's different because they have the hardware (robots) and the software (AI) to replace humans completely.
>>534812124I'm sure AI will continue to get better, but at the moment, it's useless without someone supervising it who can stop it from shooting itself in the foot, which it tries to do regularly. Also you step outside the happy-zone of Typescript programming into other languages and you see how quickly it starts falling apart.It's a very powerful tool, but it's a long way off replacing actual engineers. You can see how much damage an intern or junior can do with an LLM because they have no idea what the fuck they're doing and the LLM doesn't either.
>>534812182I have no respect for admin people. They simply don't deserve the pay they receive.
>>534812182It’s true with Finance at least. They do sit on their asses all day and nothing happens because of it but the monetary unit getting weaker because of greater rapidity of trades and velocity of circulation
>>534811332Yeah part of the downfall of today is that we pay our smartest minds to figure out how to get you to watch an ad for an extra 5 seconds. Smart people aren't fixing real problems or finding real solutions any more, they're being paid to make rich people even richer.
Being tech illiterate must be bliss.
>>534812229Yeah but some administrative jobs are really necessary. Hating all office jobs in a blanket manner is just ridiculous and unnecessary. Finance is really corrupt and makes the monetary unit weaker, those are the positions that really shouldn’t exist
>>534811999I work for a company and they make us use shitty "AI agents" which take up 5-10% of your monthly token allowance to do a few simple edits in a few files and THEY STILL FUCK UP, so you need to redo everything manually.
>>534811999This. The mid and senior software dev jobs are not going anywhere.The real danger to the industry is that even if AI *can* replace entry level dev jobs, it shouldn't. Think further ahead than your next bonus, corporate fucks: where dot he senior devs that you desperately need to wrangle the AI come from? Mid-level devs. Where dot he mid level devs come from? Entry level junior devs. If you kill off all of the junior dev jobs because you think AI can replace them, but not the mid level or senior dev jobs, what happens in 3-5 years? You can do it, I trust you to be smart enough to figure this out. Yeah, thats right genius, you start running out of devs to hire because you killed the pipeline that produces them.
>>534810798>who would be software engineers that would keep PROGRAMMING Ai.AI is a scam. it's a SOFTWARE CHAT BOT that gets data from the internet. From the websites created by Programmers.Database programming - would still be requiredSystems engineersHardware engineers.ControllersCars etc. BanksAny software beyond trivial (that can be coded by pajeets now) would need software engineers. >so called "AI" also can't create anything newAI will displace women's jobs for sure. Women doing graphic design, etc.Accountants possibly etc.
>>534812124>Neccesity is the mother of invention.If that was all it took, we'd have made ourselves immortal by now. Just WANTING something enough doesn't mean you can achieve it.
they'll be debugging and upgrading ai.
>>534810798Buy a pig named Arnold and move to some greener acres, of course.Green acres is the place to be! Farm living is the life for me!
>>534811999>>534812458>>534812463These anons are correct. AI isn't replacing software engineers. AI is replacing shitty pajeets, and women* likely.>* I can do design faster with AI, rather than hiring women to do a design
>>534812573Yeah Indian outsourcing firms like Infosys, Wipro, Cognizant, Tata, HCL (WITCH companies) are completely fucked. AI produces better code than they do already. Coincidentally those companies are also the biggest abusers of the H1B system in the US. They maybe out of business completely within a few years.
>>534810798Truck drivers will be replaced by ai too
>>534812469>Database programmingKek
>>534812573Not defending indians, but some of the most reliably coders I've worked with have been women. On my current (admittedly small) project, our frontend team is only two people: a 'senior' dev that takes forever do to a single task, and will just fucking vanish into the aether for 3-4 hours in the middle of the workday and be radio silent even when I'm trying to contact him about shit he broke, and a woman who was hired as a junior dev and doesn't think highly of herself but is fucking carrying the frontend on her back like atlas because she does all the work. I even put in a recommendation for her contract to be bumped up from junior dev to midlevel dev because thats the work she's been doing for the past two years. If you're troubleshooting production errors with the customer and and writing deployment documentation, you ain't junior anymore in any way that matters.
you wont go to hell if you kill yourself, thats something religious institutions made up
it's over for codemonkeycels
>>534811801But I like my administrative assistant. And my paralegal.
>>534811472>computers will replace something in the real world before something in the digital realmKek ive been hearing this for years now. Every job being replaced is tied directly to how exclusively the job is done on a computer. That step from manipulating the digital world to the real one is more expensive and cost prohibitive than you think
>>534810798>What would software engineers do I've never met a software engineer who can create a computer program. It's the damnedest thing. I have no idea what they even do.
>>534812337mehive done many jobs from industrial drafting , business account manager for a bankarmyranchingwelding tilingfloor instalation.the job that paid me the most was ranvching because a 12hr day was the norm.but none of them paid enough to even consider paying for a house.it's only the c-suites getting paid enough to enjoy anything and I find their existence a threat to my future and an enemy to destroy.
>>534810798this guy (with probably more knowledge than most CS grads now) was called a programmer back in the day. being an "engineer" is a zoomer-led job title.
>>534811387Cope. Getting a job is all about networking (aka internships or fucking rich people). >still believing in meritocracy in the big 2026
>>534811332either that or they become terrorists and shit's going get wildimagine alquaida/isis but with competent white engineers
>>534810798who's going to tell AI what to do?all ai does is eliminate googling for help and answers to bottlenecks this reducing time needed to create things from your own mind.AI can't think for itself
>>534810798Probably manage and maintain the AI I’m guessingIt would be a bit harder to become an SWE after that happens to society though >just guessing anyways, I’m not a STEM guy at all
>>534816058this.it's not what you know it's who you know
>>534816320Someone will have to but it only takes 1 guy to do the job of 10 people.
>>534816058for the "serious" jobs sure. many jobs don't need a lot of networking but it obviously can help
>>534810798VibeGODS are going to replace them. We vibeGODS are Nazis and superior
When that happens I'll be in my 40s and can retire on my current savingsElse I'd just do some other field of engineering probably, I have a graduate degree and am smarter than 95% of all blue collar retards and could easily do whatever they do, but better
>>534811924>t. bread hands
>>534811801manual labor retards have been seething about administration and management since the dawn of time. civilization IS administration and management. officers and supply chain clerks win wars, politicians and bureaucrats build nations, management sets the course of time. you will cope, you will seethe, but you WILL obey.
>>534811999Isn't AI extremely cheap because the companies need people addicted to it? They will raise the price and I'm not sure if they will be cheaper than humans.
>>534810798If I can find opportunities to 10x my money multiple times, they can too. A buddy of mine games for 4+ hours each day, yet got good at growing stuff in a greenhouse to the point of having more than he can use before it stops tasting fresh, so he gives it to friends or sells it. There's much to do even if we only get to some of it when life necessitates change. Some of us are doing these things before they're necessary.
>>534816605Yup, but time's ticking. That's why all of them are re-doing their business models right nowEverything is going token based (pay per use) and not fixed subscriptionsIt's probably much, much cheaper than they can actually sustain
>>534811387>>534816058Yea I mean it might still be the case in a few very competitive markets in specific private sector havens like Seattle, San Jose, and Austin.But most IT jobs are now government connected in some way. Or banks.You need connections.
>>534816443saar
>>534816781Your friend sounds based as fuck.I would like to learn a trade on the side. I don't have land so I don't think I can do that, but I would like to learn carpentry or learn to be an electrician.Writing, drawing or making music would be nice as well.
>>534816605they're pushing it onto kids now too so that they'll get used to it and become lifelong users, further making their profits guaranteed.assuming AI fags get their way, education will be useless in the future and no one will need to learn anything. they will be perfect subscription cattle for Big Tech. learn to read and write and ask AI for everything else!
>>534810798>What would software engineers do after they are finally replaced by AI?My company saw this coming back in 2018 and basically our strategy is not avoiding AI, but selling it. We've basically been doing this since 2022.I started off as a developer and work with a mostly Indian team, here. We also still need some developers, which we source from India to cut costs. The senior engineers are basically just management now. We don't really do much except think of new ways to develop AI into existing systems. We're not doing much at all when it comes to actual work. There is still SOME room for developers and engineers, but AI is basically destroying the entry level positions. If you're not already in the market, you're fucked.Then, if we need anyone new, we just go to India directly. We don't even bring them here anymore, we just give them the tasks and they do it almost all remotely.Don't care. I'm in my 40's now and soon I'll barely be coming into work and then I'll looking to get a second source of income.There is absolutely not reason to hire a computer science graduate from the West. They cost too much. My nephew is talking about going into IT and I told him that he'd be better off becoming a nurse's aide to help in an old folks home.
You still need software engineers to use the AI. There just will only be real ones left, kind of like how we have in electrical engineering.
>>534810798AI = another Indian
>>534811801>They'll wipe out the administrative class.lol… in reality admins are currently using AI as a justification for firing 4-decade worker bees and withholding raises…but we’ll keep waiting for your hypothetical reality to come!
>>534816892You are useless now. We don’t require you anymore
>>534816471>I'll be in my 40s and can retire on my current savingsProbably not tho. I doubt you have much money now, much less a paid off home or apartment. What's a Stockholm apartment run in Euro terms? 10000 per m2? Yea, you'll never retire Joakim.
>>534816944Yep, it all looks like a technocracy will be created. Though I don't think humans will like to depend on AI like this. Not having to think, not having to use your critical thinking...would we be any different from cattle?Absolutely disgusting world.
Ni; no idea. What's a software engineer?
>>534810798If AI gets any better and it will then everybody is going to be replaced by AI. As to your question what programmers would do ? Well if it's actually a developer that touches hardware then they can do anything in this world because they have brain. Webdevs would be sucking cocks on street.
>>534816899He is and he's humble about it too. I was in the middle of learning the skills needed for solo game dev, when I realized I could invest my way to early retirement and then have way more time to concentrate of new skills. Still, nothing wrong with learning skills you mentioned prior to retirement. Be sure to examine the history of natural disasters in your area and plan for that too. I thought I was immune to bad storms here until I saw it happened in the 1950s (pic-related) so it could happen again.
>>534817380I'm buying my house now. 32 and with a really small loan, after I finish paying for it in 3 years I will just invest everything and live a minimalistic life. No need for luxury in these times.
>>534812550or fabricating a fuckton of ISPs located in order to bypass Google.At least they were and we – me and the NSA – saw it. The latter probably filed this to be used when the most interesting time comes.
>>534810798no one will need to do anything once AI works thats the fucking point but you've gotten so used to being fucked in the ass that you can't even imagine how automation could work in a utopia, you just assume the government and corpos will fuck you over and DO NOTHING ABOUT ITim so fucking sick of this planet. if i had access to nuclear weapons i'd kill you all right now.
>>534810798Software engineers/architects will continue to have a place. Developers will be replaced. A.I. will hallucinate things that will work on paper and for small things but once you scale up you realize the architecture doesn't add up. I learned the hard way.If you understand software architecture then you can create great things with A.I. If you blindly rely on A.I. to make architectural decisions for you, then you have another thing coming.
>>534812182I think he morseo means their work isn't tangible. Their knoweledge and skillset is a convoluted fever dream built on a house of cards. If the power goes out, it's like none of it ever happened and they are a helpless toddler, and they starve.That's what I think they mean usually, but, maybe I give retards too much credit and they literally can't comprehend the variety or type of work "office people" do. They certainly do things, it's just that those things only have value so long as the house of cards still stands.
>>534816813Most IT jobs don't pay well though.l
>>534811999"I'm not worried about electricity" says the candle maker.
Jesus Christ this thread is full of meaningless task jobs fags praying that they will keep their fishing jobs while being ruled by an unknown entitity called AI.Let me explain it to you: every job that has to make an decision (like administrative or programming) won't be replaced by AI now, and any time soon.Your barista job will be replaced by an AI robot that will be trained to not change their outcome tasks except when trully impossible; in which they will shut down and not take rule over the world you stupid fat fucks.
I never launchedDecent education and work experience, but piss poor social skills and even less pcEnded up pissing my life away with stupid shit, did some time, then i got into restoring vintage cars and bikesBit by bit i got better and since it never felt like work, just a way of calming my mind with giant puzzles, the hours flew by and i got really good at itMy "no compromise, do it right or don`t do it at all" approach sold my first with a vast profit Now i do one every year and get paid enough to live comfortably for threeAs an added bonus, it is safe from AI interference in my lifetime
People have this all or nothing mentality, like if one job can't be replaced by AI then no jobs can. Or vice versa. There will still be room for software developers and other tech jobs, just way fewer jobs. Not to mention getting hit with a double whammy of mass immigration and mass outsourcing. Ultimately, high paying software jobs will be the dream era, thought of as a myth by future generations and computer science grads will make like 50k fresh out if they're lucky. That's the path we're on and that'll be if you're lucky enough to even get a job. With cold amusement, I do have to get a good chuckle at office fags. Since my memory is longer than a goldfish, I remember for a decade or so leading up to AI and even now they said the jobs that would be replaced would be truck drivers and blue collar roles. And while that may be true in the future, the first jobs to go are their own jobs. The accountant, the software developer, the digital artist, every task done squarely online are the first ones of the chopping block. Google has 3/4 of all of its' new code made by AI. But yea, I'm sure AI is just a bubble or some cope. Again, Google in 5 years will still have coders, just a lot fewer of them and they'll be way more insecure in terms of pay and benefits. My advice genuinely is to build a business, that's probably the only way you'll be free. If you don't have a family member who is going to get you a job in a digital field, it probably will not happen and you'll just be a warehouse cuck. I know it's very hard but there might be no other way for you to go on. I know making a business is a meme like getting into the trades but now it is no longer about lambos, yachts, or mansions. If you don't build your own business, you might never even own a home in a nice area or a car. Before building a business was an option for having a good life, now it might be your only option.
>>534817455Sound choice. I'm not investing for luxury either, just want to be prepared for various possible scenarios, as well as be more self-sufficient. Growing stuff, make a place capable of working without the usual power grid (even if it can still tap into one) since I've experienced times when shortages did affect me. It was temporary but had we been better prepared we wouldn't have felt it. So I'm doing the things my parents didn't do and/or didn't have opportunity to, since investing is way easier now than when they were in their 20s. Plus having an easier time with medical expenses as I grow older. Maybe I will stay healthy, but I've seen healthy people suddenly come down with somehing bad due to genetics in their later years.
>>534816813IT jobs are all MSP burnout factories where you fix anything that connects to the internet for $20/hr or less. And you are under constant threat of being replaced by a jeet MSP like Cognizant. Enjoy grinding certs and skills live in your car.
>>534811924but what about their weak untrained soft bodies
>>534810798Claude Code is the absolute best software AI has created and it's complete shit.
>>534818929this. I was making 120k/year 5 years ago as a programmer on-site for a nice little company in the PNW, but I realized back then that i would never own my own home working for these guys. it didnt matter that they let me work whenever i wanted, corner office, etc. at the end of the day theyd make more money and id get the scraps. I started my own remote software corp 5 years ago and pay for deep learning credits. the real skill is proper prompting. make the AI do the grunt work, not the decision making. I have customers all across the mainland and work from home in Hawaii. roosters are crowing and the suns coming up now onto the walls of my quiet little beachside house. Start a business NOW you fags even if you don't do anything with it for a while. >what do i sell?dont fuckin worry about it!>how will i find customersI said dont fuckin worry about it!it's literally Step1:start a business step2:???? step3:PROFIT
