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Did you know that the stories about "atrocities" in King Leopold's Belgian Congo are complete fabrications?
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>>534825854
the youtube algorithm works in mysterious ways
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yes I did some independent study on it
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>>534825854
not a surprise, but tell me more
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>>534825854
Even if they were true I wouldn’t care
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explain the niggers getting their hands cut off for failing to meet the rubber quota. No seriously, I don't care about the niggers but I thought that was one thing that actually happened.
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>>534825854
Do go on
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>>534825854
>the congo niggers never stole anything
X: doubt
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>>534826059
The Africans that were actively killed by the Belgians were simply standard victims of war. Brutal, I suppose, but no different than any other war. There are no solid sources for the death toll, and the infamous "hand cutting" was a Congolese practice before Europeans arrived.
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>>534826200
Native Africans were the ones that cut off hands, not the European colonists.
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>>534826175
It's just like the Holocaust, if all the niggers died, why were you chopping their hands off and they are alive?
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>>534826175
>cut off nigger's hands, for low output
>output drops to Zero, employee has to be replaced with newbie.
>nobody wants that job
Sounds as realistic as shipping POWs across the countryside, numbering and documenting them, then executing them with gas chambers, disguised as showers.
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I know that they were in fact carried out by the local tribes but the Belgians got all the credit since it was their colony.
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>>534826612
No shit right
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>>534826612
What actually happened was the euros stimulated trade and population movement that never had existed in that part of the world before, introducing plants and animals along their way. This created a living bridge for hyper specialized remote bugs which carried fatal parasites to break containment across the entirety of black Africa. For some reason they want to blame it all on Leopold though
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>>534826322
that's a great start thanks
I had this feeling in my stomach that it was all bullshit but it's so, so fucking hard to find anything online that isn't straight commie propaganda, even in academic papers.
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Cutting off limbs is a common punishment under Islam
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>>534826802
Even Wikipedia admits it's bullshit.
>Modern historians have debated how far dismemberment of living people formed a systematic policy. In 2014, David Van Reybrouck stated that the photographs of mutilated people have created a misconception that dismemberment of the living was a widespread practice. Instead, he posits that the "hand system" was primarily tied to the control of ammunition and to lethal violence, rather than to a formal policy of amputating living people as a routine punishment for failing to collect rubber. He wrote that while dismemberment of the living did occasionally happen, the practice was not as systemic as often presented.
>Jean Stengers and Daniël Vangroenweghe [nl] have also stated there was no systemic practice of dismembering living people as a punishment for not producing enough rubber. Most cases of dismemberment of the living were caused by soldiers who had shot people and had cut off their hands thinking they were dead while they were in fact still alive.
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>>534826322
In general one thing you'll find a pattern of is, whenever Europeans are accused of some horrible sin in colonial times, slavery, multilations, whatever if you actually dig in you'll discover it was a practice that the natives carried out amongst each other from before they were ever contacted. Europeans were barely involved and indeed wrote down in their private journals and letters that such things were horrific and beastial, speaking to the kind of tribes they encountered.
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>>534826932
thank you again
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>>534826322
>>534826802
you know its bullshit when there are like 3 pictures and they keep showing it again and again compare that to real atrocities and you will see thousands of pictures
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>>534826932
You can go and read the report that the English came up with to say that there was no genocide in the area. They concluded that niggers don't have the capacity to tell time and compulsively lie. Now that's hilarious but it also betrays the English's motives to cover up any new of anything leaking out of Africa about mass black deaths which were tangentially related. So not lying, but lying by omission
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>>534827024
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>>534827108
In addition, most of the claims are sourced from a book by a guy named Adam Hochschild (yes, he is, if you're curious). One of the quotes was just straight up lying by omission
>Former Équateur District commissioner Charles Lemaire later recalled writing to Brussels that "to gather rubber in the district ... one must cut off hands, noses and ears."
This is from Hochschild's book, and if you go look up the full context of the quote you'll see that he was saying that as a hypothetical to underscore how underdeveloped the Congo was, and he immediately follows the quote by saying that he doesn't want to pursue this and become tyrannical. Hochschild's credibility is completely out of the window after that, and most of the claims of atrocities can be traced back to him.
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>>534827377
The missionary photos are old, Americans would have been circulating them at expositions to showcase European atrocities in Africa over 100 years ago. It's very old propaganda, colonial era propaganda
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>>534825854
We have pictures of the baskets of hands, Anon
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>>534827588
They have pictures of the holocaust too
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>>534827377
Even in Congo we have jews fucking up the white man and civilisation...
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>>534827588
Yes the Congolese were cannibals so their savagery has probably been understated
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>>534827588
All cut from dead people.
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>>534827681
Rothschilds were riding at the head of the parasol'd caravan carried by black manservants through the congo jungles pointing out pretty native children and jewels to nab, slightly exaggerating of course
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>>534825854
>omg everything they told us about our colonies are wrong

also same guy 2 seconds later: OMG CHYNA IS ORGAN HARVESTING YOGURT MUsLIMS IN CHYNA
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>>534827829
Interesting...
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>>534827899
Don't forget the holy war! Germany and france were there too. Weird times
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>>534828011
I have no idea whaat you're talking about now.
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What are you talking about bro, just look at me.
you white devils took all my muddafuggin limbs. You took all of dem.
I want an apology.
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>>534828076
Muslim slavers took over the eastern congo and they were the only power in the area that wasn't some flesh eating savage so there were some fast deals. Meanwhile the French and Germans were supposedly trying to fight the slave industry which came into conflict with English allies in the area. They got whatever it was they wanted, gold, ivory, jewels, slaves, and then pulled out and left the mess on Leopold's doorstep. This was all happening away from the villages where people were dying from parasites
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>>534826175
the hand chopping thing was tradition in the congo, likely for centuries (no one knows for sure since LOLE cant fucking read/write). the only "new" part of the equation was "production". the congo obv had no concept of such an activity prior to the yuros showing up

so what likely happened is that belgians, in attempting to manage/administer the giant fuckoff jungle that was the congo free state, delegated certain areas to be administered by some locals they could trust. and the rubber came in on time, so they let em do what they do. its very likely it was not very common, and essentially unheard of in any area directly administered by belgians (its not like belgians have a literal culture of handchopping after all. meanwhile the congoloids DID). but i guess thats on you to decide if it makes any sense that the belgians, upon arriving in afria, suddenly reverted to a lvl of barbarism that hadnt been seen on the yurop in centuries; or if it was just silly little congoloids doing silly little congoloid things

at any rate, at some point, some bleeding heart yuropoor went down, snapped a couple pics, then made a pamphlet to hand out to their bleeding heart frens in yurop. congo was literally the first "save da poor african chilluns" scam
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>>534825977
jajajajja, yeah, i got the same video
decent watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lL0nf1LDGw
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>>534828307
Alright, I see you're savvy on your African History. Great.
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>>534828830
I mostly just focus on dismantling propaganda, the Africans were killed by a biting fly and the Germans were about to make a vaccine for it but WWI started. Pretty sure we still ended up using the developed German vaccine
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>>534828584
Good interesting vid with lots of entretaining pictures...
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>>534828584
I watched it after a /his/ anon posted the link to it a week or so before the algorithm blessed the channel.
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>>534825854
>complete fabrications
yeah, hand chocolate to remember it was also fake?



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