Europe, facing decline after losing its market to Chinese electric vehicles, has announced a drastic measure.It is to revive diesel cars kekThe reason is that China cannot manufacture diesel cars.(Electric vehicles are the easiest cars to manufacture.)
>>534827420>be Diesel chad>fill up tank in 1 minute>have 550 miles of rangewe can have this conversation again when EV cucks caught up with the current state of technology.
yeah, uhh, diesel, which is notoriously cheap now, surely moving from electric to diesel is the right choice now
My 2008 rav4 cannot access most of the city central areas due to "emissions". The particulate filter they put in diesel cars is basically dooming it to last atleast 300k kilometers less than without it
>>534827803> Using a 60–80 kWh battery for ~450–500 km, charging costs are low. Home charging can be as low as £237.50 for 10,000 miles, whereas diesel might cost over £1,900.yeah, uhh, it just costs 10x more for the same distance, no biggie really
>>534827420no one is buying electric vans because the range sucks lol. 200km with one charge and then having to charge for an hour is bs if you are transporting people. also you need a 2liter diesel with at least 150hp to don't rev the engine all the time>>534828280just disconnect all that adblue green trannie filter nonsense costing thousands to fix and get it disabled
>>534828429>£237 for 10,000 miles Get a fucking grip
>>534828429>burns in green fire
>>534827420>Electric vehicles are the easiest cars to manufactureMore accurate would be to say that they are parallel technology development paths. The best batteries are not easy to manufacture.
>>534828554>Driving an EV 10,000 miles in 2026 typically costs between $300 and $800 in electricity>>534828565>burns in red fire
>>534827803>be Diesel chad>Hormussy blocked>ACKKKKK
>>534828647Where? Directly plugged into a hydro generator at Niagara fucking Falls? The rest of the world isn't propped up by the Chinese government, Chang.
>>534827420>Stellantis>EuropeIt's a multinational corp created through a merger between European PSA and US Chrysler
>>534828647>chatbot user is weighing in on the discussionKYS nigger.
>>534828647i never saw a car catch fire unless its absolutely total no survivors type of collision yet i saw EVs catching a fire on a curbNo shit you retarrds voted that Magyar in
>>534828928you niggers are the ones constantly arguing for the most skewed shit imaginable>hurrrr groceries are high? I grow my own potato!have your own solar panels and charger then, retard nigger>>534829084>>534829160no arguments detected, enjoy paying 2000 euros a fillup LMAO
>>534827420the main problems are lack of affordable battery, scale of production of said batteries and the general energy problem that happens if you try to switch some 10s of millions gasoline cars to EV. Its simply not logically possible and it has to be a slow transition over decades not forced like the EU shitheads want. It works in Norway because they are only a couple million impossible for a real industrial nation like Germany without scarifying the whole industrial part.
China will leave the west in the dust and the trend will only accelerate.
>>534827420Back in high school my friend had a '92 Passat 6-speed that was a diesel. He got almost 1000km per tank in mileage...Euros and Japs already mastered incredible fuel economy cars with propriety parts decades ago. They fucked themselves in the past decade or so somehow.
>>534829638You know the only person I've seen driving BYD irl? A nigger
>>534827420I've been saying all along that diesel is the future and EVs are a bubble. You can get diesel from oil/coal or from fields. Green energy, and especially batteries, are expensive and create new dependencies.
>>534830321In africa, you can find Mercedes cars with much over 500,000 miles on the odometer. Modern cars are a disgrace.
>>534830394There are two ways. First way is because BYD is cheaper and you are not sentient enough to care about it. Second way is because you want to force the west to improve their product and win the market by not buying their competing car as a punishment.
>>534828429all the appeal is in 'it's cleaner' rn. the car costs you more and the macroeconomic damage that production causes costs more. electricity isn't produced magically in you wall outlet and you solar panels won't suffice for charging. modern diesels are very efficient. quite powerful even. smug city dwellers won't get it.
>>534829638and this is bad because?
>>534829462>literally argument>no argumentfucking troons man
>>534830790Not buying the electric car mate. Simple as. It's the vehicle equivalent of the covid vax.
>>534831457Im a 3rd generation automotive engineer. EVs are still hamstrung by the limits of battery technology. Theyre good enough for a lot of people but I would wait until solid state batteries come out. It will probably take another 15-20 years for them to get cheap enough to put in an economy car. But, when they do come out, you can switch from gas to electric with no compromises.
>>534827420EVs might be dead. Ford and GM can't sell theirs. And I think Honda just pulled their entire lineup of new EVs at a multi-billion dollar loss they're hedging their bets on.
>>534831949yeah, it will make sense, when independently harvested energy CAN charge an affordable car. currently a setup that could requires insane investment in a car that won't last long and in energy production and storage. also requires a private property. aquaintance bought an EV, only to be told that the mains running to his house wouldn't suffice for a charging station. now the wife drives him to the only charger around that is some 20 min away. they are not amused and he is rather embarrassed about his green 'decision'.
>>534832529solid state batteries will have twice the energy density, wont suffer in the cold and can charge in 10 minutes so her situation wouldnt be a big deal, no worse than a gas car. If you dont have a garage to charge it in avoid EVs for now. If you do, its a great idea but buy a 5 year old depreciated one and keep your ICE car for long trips.
>>534831949I'm not an automotive engineer but what freaks me out about these EVs and recent ICE models is how shit it is to replace parts in the vehicle. Like, if one thing breaks you need to send the thing back to the manufacturer and spend thousands and weeks of time just to fix one thing that mechanics used to be able to fix in an hour with generic parts. Until/unless these new vehicles make that possible I'll never get on board with the agenda. If EU auto manufacturers want to survive they need to redesign their models to be like that again. Yeah, they'll cost $5k-$8k more but you'll save $15k in maintenance over the life of the car (which is also much longer than a chinkmobile)
>>534833791the thing is, you probably wont have to replace things very often. Old cars were easy to fix because they needed to be constantly. Another amazing thing is the shift towards giga casting which is just injection molded aluminum. All aluminum cars will be immune to road salt. EVs also only have a handfull of moving parts so once solid state batteries are a thing cars will actually get a massive reliability and longevity boost, moreso than the transition from carbs to efi.
>>534833479sure, the end product will be more efficient than it is now. it will still require an expensive charging setup, including battery for storage. it will still require a property to house the equipment. with kikes spraying the skies to make the sun NOT shine, we'll have to see. the current grid won't be able to handle a number of EV as large as ICEs going on charge mode in the evenings, all at the same time. not our grid anyway. the total cost of private transport won't decrease. not with kikes usuring interest. i need my van for work and would like to keep my ordinary ICE car, wifey needs a car, too. charging all those at home seems a nightmarish idea. we'll see.
>>534827420yeah I wonder what will happen when you outsource everything you used to build to another country.And what happens when you outsource your own people?
>>534834510it wont be necessary to have a home charger with solid state batteries, theyll have way more range and charge as fast as a gas car can fill up.
>>534827420>Be bike chad>None of this affects me>Shoplift
>>534827420>it took 26 years for europe to realize ev cars were trying to destroy europes economy and never was a save the world thingthis retards deserve everything they get
