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I'd rather go into $80k of debt than be a commie and have free health care. Why do people want free health care? Where do they think the money is going to come from to pay for it? Are they crazy? They will have to raise taxes just to pay for it.
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>>534827683
>Where do they think the money is going to come from to pay for it?
the billionaire class should have enough
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>>534827683
We're spending trillions on needless wars in the Middle East so I'd rather our taxes actually go to helping Americans for a change
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>>534827683
You pay on average 40% in taxes in the us
>No free healthcare
>Shitty infrastructure
>Mental ilnessess like homo and autism
>Constant nigger fatigue
You pay on average 38% in taxes in Denmark
>Free healthcare
>Excellent infrastructure
>Mental ilnessess like homo and autism
>Constant Arab fatigue
Take your pick
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>>534827683
>Free
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>>534827683
Theres always that middle option called insurance?
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>>534827683
>Where do they think the money is going to come from
you
or your employer (from money he slashes from your pay)
the point is that it's a set sum of money that dents your paycheck, but doesn't fucking bankrupt you, when you need to be hospitalized
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>>534828329
Those tax numbers are not especially accurate, you've cherry picked them to support your position. You've chosen the lower band of average for Denmark, and the upper band of average for the United States. But then again, I can't expect much more from Sweden-except-irrelevant. Shitty infrastructure is valid though.
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Universal healthcare might have been nice before mass immigration but now they only provide euthanasia and you have to go to America and pay for it or die.
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Id rather there is no healthcare
If you can't be cured at home with a nurse and some herbs in a few days this is nature's way of saying "we need to keep the balance"

So many who are supposed to die just won't fucking die, kept alive by machines for profit, it's unnatural
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>>534827683
>raise taxes
>pay higher price for everything instead
womp womp
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>>534827683
You dont ever have to worry goy about getting universal healthcare or ever getting social security or medicare here in Trumpland. Just dont ever get sick or get injured in an accident. Work til you die. You'll be fine. See you.at Walmart.
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>>534829759
Yeah. But then there won't be any billionaires! :-)
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>>534827683
It's not free, it provides shit anarch tyranical care, and it's only good for niggers. Medical malpractice is already one of the leading causes of death in America. What do you think is going to happen to that when it's completely state controlled? It will go up and you won't be able to sue. Oh and they will cover it up like covid.
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>>534827683
The USA already spends about 2tril a year on "free healthcare"
Interesting how you ignore this every thread
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>>534831654
>>534830364
>>534829759

I will NEVER be for free healthcare for 1 simple reason. poor people are fucking retarded and they suck. how the fuck can you not make enough money to support yourself? all my peers can, why not you? if you cant afford to pay for your own healthcare no one should be forced to subsidized that. if you cant afford rent, i shouldnt have to subsidize your housing. if you cant afford food thats not my problem either. i dont give a shit about your stupid old granny, shouldve saved more when they were younger.
the poors will suffer what they must.
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>>534831873
Pretty much
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>>534832144
blacks arent human i hate how people think just because theyre "white" they deserve something. if youre poor youre basically a nigger. infact, BECAUSE youre white you shouldve have never let yourself get close to this point.
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>>534831873
people are poor because you allow public education to be shit. gold stars for participation and a passing grade is a 60% average. no classes on how to get a job whatsoever. limited capacity for driver's education. get your shit in gear.
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>>534832491
> public education
everything you need to know you can learn yourself. if youre getting a 60% in school you might be functionally retarded. the material really isnt that hard.
in the old days these losers would be sent into the mines or factory line but hopefully we can automate them soon.
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>>534827846
You mean the billionaire class that was created by being allowed to exploit 99% of the nation through antitrust based monopolies and is currently supported by maga?
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>>534832769
>the billionaire class
Has around 7 trillion in "assets". I understand you are an economic illiterate so I'll keep it simple. If you hold a gun to their head and take all of their money it will be worth probably 10% of that but let's be generous and say it's 50%. That's 3.5trillion dollars. That's one year of "free" healthcare, nigger feeding, "disability" and retirement
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>>534832932
Everything you just said is wrong and you should feel stupid. The most recent RAND Corporation working paper by Carter Price, updated in 2025, calculates that since 1975 a cumulative $79 trillion has been “redistributed upward“ from the bottom 90 percent of Americans to the top 1 percent.

In 2023 alone, the transfer to the morbidly rich was $3.9 trillion, enough to give every working American a $32,000/year raise.
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>>534832769
"exploit"
i fucking hate poor people. im not exploiting you because i make you pay the rent you owe me. go live somewhere else then. there is nothing more sickening than an adult man not being able to make enough money to support himself, much less his family. what kind of man are you at that point?
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>>534833123
Maybe you should google the work "antitrust" before you (you) me again so you dont dig the idiot hole deeper...
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>>534832695
well you sold the mines and factories to China so now you have to live in cities with 1500 slop restaurants in order for those people to have some semblance of a livelihood. and my point is that 60% should not be an acceptable passing grade in the first place, we should be aiming for a society where the absolute least of us is a 70% student.
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>>534827683
>Where do they think the money is going to come from to pay for it?
Once it's free, nobody has to pay for it. Fuck you guys are retarded.
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>>534827683
Anyone who advocates for "free" government healthcare should be required to use lonly the VA system for 5 years first.
I (rightly) don't trust the government to deliver a letter ontime or to the right place.
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>>534827683
Because I have kids and I don't want them to suffer.
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>>534827683
>>534833686
And there's the thing - if you don't support free medical care for babies and children you're just an objectively bad person. Especially in a rich country.
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>>534833403
> we should be aiming for a society where the absolute least of us is a 70% student.
we need the poors and low iqs to stop breeding first, or why even bother sending them to school to begin with? you dont need to go to college to pick a fruit.
>>534833403
they can always be servants or cleaners. we just deported a bunch of mexicans, plenty of open spots for fruit pickers and trench diggers.
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>>534827683

I'm 'disabled' so I get Disability AKA American NEETbux and 100% heath insurance.

Anytime I hear that someone has a $70 copay for an appointment or prescription, I literally laugh out loud.

#BLESSED
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>>534828329
It's not "free" if you're making other people pay for for you.

Commie health care should be tiered according to your income tax bracket. Specialized treatment and medicines shouldn't be wasted on the least productive members of society.
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>>534827683
Everyone already pays more than subsidized care would cost. The reason the hospitals charge you extortion is because most people cannot pay and they use that extortionate price to grant themselves tax breaks and any number of loopholes to stay incredibly profitable. They also make sure all the big pharma pigs eat at the trough of your pain and suffering. All that is needed is a simplified system where big pharma is cut out and incentivizing deisease management instead of prevention is stopped. No one is being told to work for free but cutting out the Epstein class would allow for subsidized care. Or taxpayers can continue to pay 20K a year for my healthcare like they already do for top level. I haven't paid a penny of six figures of medical bills all paid off. Theres no reason it should cost that much and there's no reason anyone should have to pay anything for that type of emergency.
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>>534834238
Translation: commie health care shouldn't exist. You should be required to pay your own way.
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>>534827683
You're already paying for it
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>>534828329
denmark is literally one of the highest taxed countries in the world. up to 65% income tax

lmfao you are a jew
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>>534833009
>a cumulative $79 trillion has been “redistributed upward“ from the bottom 90 percent of Americans to the top 1 percent.
The net assets of the US resident billionaires is 7 trillion.
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>>534827683
Good goy, now pay up.
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So many issues would be fixed if we had patches to government like it's a moba or something
>patch 20.26: reduced pharma profits by 97.9%
>buffed constitutional provisions. In previous patches there was a bug where protections would be used agaijst civilians
Get icefrog on it.
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>>534827683
>and have free health care.

Please read about the Swiss model for health care. You can be a geld-hording capitalist and have health care quite easily at the same time.
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Any true conservative would choose universal healthcare as it is much, much more cost-effective.
Capitalists, however, deeply oppose the idea.
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>>534827683
last year i made 170K and so had to pay the medicare levy (levi) which was $5700 dollars free'd up because i xont have and wont have judinsurance
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>>534839077
>which was $5700 dollars free'd up

Got to pump up those numbers.
Somalis' have stolen every dollar you have ever paid into the system, and Jamangi needs that new kidney right fucking now.
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>lol
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>>534837958
And israel is worth 72
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>>534839603
That's nice. We are discussing why I'm not paying more taxes so niggers and retards can have more "free" healthcare.
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>>534839277
i havent been to the hospital, but the past month ive been to the doctor 3 times to get successively more effective sleeping pills and thats cost roughly $400 out of pocket then medicare rebate about $145 so you know .....$255 to get a sleeping pill....and ill have to go back in a month and explain why i can sleep. but trust me, i loved in California crom 1990-2003 and your system in juden101
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>>534827683
>They will have to raise taxes just to pay for it
This is a meme. The UK spends less of their GDP on healthcare than we do and still manages the NHS. Problem is we led big pharma rape the American tax payer and Washington does not give a shit about bargaining prices. These companies have to learn that if they want business in America they have to follow our regulations, including price controls. Otherwise they can lose the American market, see how that goes for them.
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>>534829133
TRUE! he didn't even include state taxes. it's way way worse in the actual first world USA!
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>>534827683
goodest goy of 2026 award
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>>534827683
Our healthcare costs as a nation already dwarf the defense budget. We need to fix the system by preventing insurance companies from being publicly traded companies, introducing nursing back into hospitals rather than colleges and pushing for certain pharmaceuticals like insulin to be developed by smaller universities and hospitals rather than the one or two large firms that have a stranglehold over them. I don’t see what introducing more middle men into the situation solves
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>>534832144
>doesn't this photo of a fat black woman make you happy about how you have to pay for Israelis' socialized healthcare with your tax dollars despite the fact you go bankrupt if you get sick?
hmmmm......... no
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>>534831873
nigger you are currently right now subsidizing billionaires. that's the point of the comment. you are giving your money to parasites.

>>534832695
nigger YOU will be replaced. you are an unspectacular human. i don't care what your "skill" is. no amount of high scores in schooling and education will save you from automation. and if you refuse to install the data center in your walls, you'll be tossed to the side.
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you pay laywers a retainer fee
If you dont make enough to pay for a doctors salary then dont even bother.
Insurence doesnt set you up with doctors.
They can only supply bureaucrats who always look down on you and hope you dont ask any questions.
they are just there to bill insurence thats it.
A shaved monkey can perform the same duties as a medicare doctor. The shaved monkey will have more humility too
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>>534827683
Some stupid bot retard posted this
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>>534827683
Health(not free) represent a larger part of the USA GDP % than France's total health (including free healthecare part) GDP%.

You get fleeced at every step and don't get anything in return. Your me first mentality is why you pay more individually when you could bring down the everage cost by supporting your fellow man.

Everybody dies, everybody gets sick. You're healthy today, you may nor tomorrow.

In the end it's just basic capitalism. A larger centralized demand gives access to better prices.
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>>534827683

>I love paying interest

Good bootlicking goy. Now go file for personal bankruptcy.
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Reminder that the average American are conditioned into becoming perfect goycattle, that theyll love nothing else than to be in perma debt and have all their assets given to Israel and Billionsires, just so they can spite a fictional black person that they imagined in their minds.
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Retard, they still found a way to maximize what you pay. Half the time it's cheaper out of pocket than with insurance.

38. 580 per month, non smoker, don't even drink, not a fat fuck. Then to use it it's another 7500 on top of copays and whatever else they don't want to cover.

Democrats are retarded but they got this one right, single payer is the way to go. Outcomes in the U.S. are not much better and it still takes 3 months to see a specialist.


Fuckin retards. Learn math. Healthcare is fucked in this country and you just want to cater to retarded Jew insurance companies.
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>>534827683
What debt? Just don't pay medical bills and agree to a payment plan your never going to pay.
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>>534833123
The day of the rope is coming for you. Retard.

People only make money by exploiting perceived and transactional risk versus benefits.

That's how it works. You cannot gain unless someone else loses somewhere down the chain, resources are finite and linked to a Fiat currency that is absolutely retarded and not based on real goods.

What kind of man are you that you think you're going to live forever?

If you don't want to help someone, don't.

You can simply empower them to help themselves but sucking billionaires dicks ain't it.

People like you are those who lose it all and jump out a fuckin window. Tard.

There's more to life than money.
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>>534827683
You Sound Like An Antisemite
Israel Has Socialist Healthcare
And Free Trannyism
You Should Apply
It Is Free
And Your Troops Died To Protect It
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>>534827683
If you actually cared about universal health care you would dump deeply unpopular policies about trannies and illegals from your political platform. So fuck off.
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>>534827846
problem is that in capitalism, billionaires will be providing forced healthcare and you will be paying for it. You can't have capitalism with communist characteristics, it's either full communism without private companies or you getting fucked your whole life.
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>>534848101
I love the idea of the government giving a heckin' charitable hospital conglomerate a working person's gross yearly earnings so an obese welfare nigger can get gastric bypass surgery.

Why are you a bad person who wants people to die?
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>>534827683
>I'd rather go into $80k of debt

You wouldn't have any debt if you use "alternative" medicine and actually get cured. But "free" healthcare won't cover that. Because there is no money in curing people. Something that no one asks: why is healthcare so expensive? "Free" healthcare is a monopoly of Rockefeller's Allopathic Medicine - drugs, surgery, vaccines, symptom management, no cures. Besides not curing you, they can charge outrageous prices, like $100 for an aspirin, because people won't care because their insurance covers it. See how it works? That's why I fired my MD and started curing myself. And even better, started using preventative medicine so I never have health issues.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1R52PLbCio
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>>534848557
The only thing I can think of that would be more desirable is if they import even more incompetent third world doctors and keep billing the same.
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>>534847959
>There's more to life than money.
Funny coming from people whose entire mission in life is to steal it from everyone else. Not everything is a zero sum game you sophomoric nigger
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>>534848775
>"Free" healthcare is a monopoly of Rockefeller's Allopathic Medicine - drugs, surgery, vaccines, symptom management, no cures.
>https://youtu.be/watch?v=id4XFlG97mA
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>>534827683

"Free" healthcare gives you access to MDs, who kill more people than cancer. But hey, it's free!
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>>534827683
Socialised healthcare doesn't work when it treats unnecessary cases, self-inflicted ill-health, or those with mutational loads and shit genes in general. There is no cure for being excessively old and decrepit, or generally unhealthy (smokers, drug users, fatties etc.), let alone inherently dysgenic. The majority of people currently receiving healthcare should be denied altogether. The only exception for providing healthcare to the sort of aforementioned people should be for euthanasia.

In most Western countries, 60% of all medical expenses are incurred by people in their last year of life.

How to fix the healthcare budget in the West:
1. Stop providing healthcare to such old people and let them die anywhere from 3 years to 3 months earlier.
2. Stop providing healthcare to people with self-inflicted ill health unless it is for euthanasia.
3. Stop paying doctors and other glorified medical professionals increasingly high salaries.
4. Exclude non-Whites from healthcare altogether.
5. Make HSA accounts mandatory at birth.
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>>534849732
>"Free" healthcare gives you access to MDs, who kill more people than cancer.
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>>534849732
>"Free" healthcare gives you access to MDs
And cardiologists, the heart experts of Allopathic Medicine.
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>>534849981
>cardiologists, the heart experts of Allopathic Medicine
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>>534827867
They already do that, and now we have a thirdie infestation because of it.
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>>534827683
Weird how you never hear people who live in countries with socialized medicine wish they could have for profit healthcare instead huh?
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>>534849981
>cardiologists, the heart experts
Cardiologists will encourage you to exercise.
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>>534850285
>Cardiologists will encourage you to exercise.
And the heart surgeons agree.
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>>534850385
What is one supposed to do, be a sedentary fat slob?
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>>534827683
maybe give up a war or two..would pay for several country's healthcare..you already pay for israel's
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>>534850285
>Cardiologists will encourage you to exercise.
"Dr. Jean Joseph Chatham, age 48, died suddenly of a heart attack on Saturday March 2, 2019 while mountain biking, a hobby he loved".
>https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/azcentral/name/jean-chatham-obituary?id=2020040
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>>534850561
>What is one supposed to do, be a sedentary fat slob?

If you want to be healthy and slim, take liquid plant-derived colloidal minerals, and other quality supplements that actually get absorbed. It's explained in the first 5 minutes or so of this vid.
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t7UtZ--Tk2U
And quit the 12 bad foods if you dare:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm71w3LzhQE
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>>534827683
That's because you are Jewish. I'd rather currency was abolished and we all had universal high income.
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>>534827683
your country would spend 1000000x the cost of free healthcare just to try destroy other countries free healthcare
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>>534827683
Youre an ideologically captured retard, that is all. Im not going to engage with your childish arguments, you are a retard, simple.
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>>534851177

This is why we over eat (and also why we get ill). Our bodies need the essential nutrients and if we don't get them, your body will give you cravings to eat more until you get those missing nutrients. Unfortunately they're not in our food anymore. So we keep eating. Plants can't make minerals; they can only absorb them if they're in the soil. The US government has known about this problem since at least the 1930s. Senate document 264:
>https://ia800402.us.archive.org/25/items/modernmiraclemen00beac/modernmiraclemen00beac.pdf
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>>534827683
Honestly the way America just lets the world's trash dump themselves into the country, I wouldn't want free healthcare either, you can't take care of everyone in the fucking world, they all hate you anyway and will show up, scam you, milk your systems to their breaking point, then laugh on their way back to their trash nations and people where life and accomplishments mean NOTHING to them, which America is slowly doing due to being overwhelmed by so many god damn people from all over.
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>>534851761

There's no food in our food anymore. You have to supplement to avoid illness. MDs aren't taught this. They get one 45 minute lecture on nutrition.
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>>534827683
I say preventative stuff should be free
Like physicals and dental cleanings
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>>534851940
>There's no food in our food anymore. You have to supplement to avoid illness.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cZUW_msobAs
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>>534827683
Mommy is selling healthcare plans if you're interested. :D
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>>534829702
>jeet truck driver smashes into your vehicle breaking both your legs
>just take some herbs goy you deserve to die
kys you nasty fucking kike
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>>534827683
Healthcare is free if you don’t pay for it
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>>534849981
>cardiologists, the heart experts of Allopathic Medicine.

Cardiologists will tell you to cut down on cholesterol.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9De2QRTDWc
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>>534852284
>Cardiologists will tell you to cut down on cholesterol.
And they'll tell you to cut down on salt.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES_CJ0aRHL4
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>>534827683

If they cured everyone, the medical industrial complex would go out of business.
>https://patents.google.com/patent/US10105389B1/en
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9yBc_1ZiwI
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>>534827683
>They will have to raise taxes just to pay for it
You could just scrap your aircraft carriers. With the money spent on their upkeep, you could build free, golden hospitals. And trump would finally get something golden. Win-win-win.
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>>534850740
>>534850385
Trump, Bill Gates, and Epstein all agree - exercise is bad for you and should be avoided.
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>>534828399
Everyone in Europe who can afford private healthcare insurance buys it. Even that level of care is shit tier compared to what Mexican migrants here can get in any emergency room, but it's better than their vaunted "free" heathcare. That's a fact.
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>>534827683
I don't want free Healthcare, I just want fucking consistent public pricing like every fucking product and service.
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>>534827683
well, if you didn't spend all your money on wars for israel and veing ripped off by the pedos that run your cunt, filling their own pockets...

you could have zero poverty, free health care, clean cities, high speed rail everywhere, 95% of your population could own their own homes

just like it is in futuristic China, right now

but why would you want any of that shit, right? fuck those commies. give me a hard life of strees and being ripped off and lied to all the live long day anytine.

they must think we're stupid. we're not stupid, right?
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>>534853965
You americans are such uneducated shitheads. You can't even find europe on a map. People from all over the world are flying to us for medical treatment.
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>>534853965
Imagine believing this. Sad.
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>>534827683
But I have Healthcare. And a low deductible. I don't understand the post.
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>>534853965
>go to ER with common ailment because private doctors won't take patients without insurance
>wait 4 hours in lobby with mexicans
>get to see a nurse, not a doctor
>she runs no diagnostics beyond temperature and listening to your lungs/heart - maybe
>get sent home with OTC pain medications and a $20,000 bill
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>>534827683
we pay more on average for health care, both public and private, than any euroid country
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I'm going to give you my most lukewarm take, health insurance was strictly banned from making a profit until something like the 50s. We can go back. Healthcare can't be paid for now because of the flat refusal to ditch the administration and coding class.
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>>534853965
not even our prime minister, who's life was saved from covid on free health care, pays for private.

you need to ask chatgpt before posting you thick yank
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>>534827683
hell yea brother! i rather die from not being able to get life saving surgery before of the insurance kike denying it. than ever benefit from some commie bullshit! being kikeslaves is the american way and the only way to live for me! can i get a hoorah ameribros!?
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>>534827683
Private healthcare would be OK if it was illegal to profit from it. As of right now, Socialized healthcare in developed countries is infinitely better than the american hellhole
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>>534854366
Fuck, I just checked. I thought we had the most expensive healthcare system. But we're actually only in second place. You pay about 50% more per capita than we do on average.
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>>534827683
>free healthcare USA
>but they exclusively turn away overweight pigs, tell them to lose weight before coming in for a checkup. (also they are forced to pay a fee for wasting time)
>exclude illegals, niggers, and any undesirable coloreds, they are also forced to pay a fee like fatties
Think about it.
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>>534854496
And such good outcomes. World's highest life expectancy and a healthy, fit, beautiful population.
Oh.
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>>534853666
Is the medical industry so evil you have to ruin their fun, satan-kun?
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>>534838382
No get yoshi ice frog is a retard
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>>534827846
>billionaire class
doesnt exist
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>>534854656
it's your atitude and that of your countrymen why you don't have free health care.

you just listed why you don't have free health care.

anf your reasoning, which you think is your own, has been drummed into since birth so you don't get to enjoy free healthcare and are happy about it.

consider that
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>>534854673
What makes the numbers even crazier is that normally, the highest healthcare costs are incurred by elderly people. Americans don't even live long, yet they still face high costs.
>>534854656
Nothing is more expensive when it comes to healthcare costs than a long-lived population. People who lead unhealthy lifestyles should actually be getting discounts.
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>>534840289
I was in an accident and woke up in the hospital. One night in the ICU and an MRI later I'm in the hole 16 grand. It still wouldn't cost me anywhere near as much as paying every shit sponge and grifter on both sides of the system for everything that has nothing to do with me. Do you actually think the "free" covid vaccine didn't come out of your taxes? That was just one time they got a blank check and look what they did with it.
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>>534827683
>>534827867
Our Defence budget is less than $1 Trillion. You could slash that, tax every billionaire and every millionaire 100% and it wouldn't even come close to covering the $6 Trillion dollars Americans spend on medical care each year.
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>>534854858
My mother is 71. She's had 5 back surgeries paid for by Medicare. The most recent one cost about $500,000.
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>Rather go become a debt slave to jews then force jews to pay for his Healthcare while he relaxes.

This is why you get called goyim lmao dumbfuck you deserve your enslavement.
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>>534848557
>free-universal-healthcare
Oh anon. It's so much worse than that.
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>>534854949
all the data points to universal healthcare being substantially cheaper because you take the jews out of the equation. it's why they're working so hard to dismantle all these programs in europe now.
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>>534854969
It's no different with the older people I know. All the treatments and surgeries they receive are unbelievable. But that's also why I have to pay $6,000 a year for myself and my wife to the health insurance company without getting anything in return. I'm almost certain that when we're old, all these treatments won't be covered anymore.
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>>534854949
>6 trillion.
Anon that's not what it would cost. >>534855062
is what it would cost in a best case scenario. And your healthcare would be worse so the umbutu and his 12 kids could get five star treatment fresh of the boat when imported from the darkest heart of sub 70 IQ sub Sahara. The anarcho tyranny is off the charts for these systems. Maybe with benevolent AI overlords it might be possible, but I would still expect a certain amount of culling even then.
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>>534855229
It's also about the pressure on the healthcare sector. Statutory health insurance funds act like a kind of union and can dictate prices because they determine which kind of treatments their insured members will have covered. It's always good to create a balance of power in a market.
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>>534827867
Illegals are not American though.
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>>534853965
Man some of you fucks really need to leave the country at least once in your life this level of retardation is gonna sink the country.
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>>534855229
What makes anyone think Universal Healthcare will Juden-Free?

When I was active duty, I was bit by a stray pitbull when I was on leave, it costed tax payers $40,000 for 3 stupid shots and 45 minutes in the local hospital.
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>>534827683
I would rather be in debt than pay taxes as well. Debt you do not have to pay but taxes you are obligated to pay by law. Therefore I have decided to agree with you. There should be more debt and less taxes.
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>>534827683
I send them $20 a month and tell em to fuck off.
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>>534855229
>universal healthcare being substantially cheaper because you take the jews out of the equation.
I hope you didn't post that with a straight face anon. Just the ability for them to "legally" directed suicide whites alone makes what you just posted a sick joke.
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>>534855334
K. It's $5.3 Trillion and not $6 Trillion.
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>>534855582
And how much of that is cosmetic surgery and other luxuries that a statutory health insurance company wouldn't cover?
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>>534855657
You know as well I how fucked up Americans are, they will probably end up re-classifying Brazilian butt lifts and breast implants as "emotionally medical necessities". kek
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>>534855542
meanwhile in the US an insurance company can just deny you healthcare that you pay for and you die with no recourse. no refunds anon!
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>>534827683
joe rogan said perplexity said it would be cheaper to provide health care to all of you compared to the cost of your current system.
is the AI lying?
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>>534827683
80k is nothing, if something major happens were talking millions.
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>>534856456
> "what do you mean the $400 dollars I paid you for the last 4 months wont cover my $500,000 hospital bill? I thought that's what insurance was!"
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My wife just had our 4th kid. Like fuck am I paying for it lol.
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>>534854949
>$6 Trillion dollars Americans spend on medical care each year.
Universal healthcare would cost a fraction of that. In the current system drugs that cost less than a cent are being charged at thousands of dollars and ten minute ambulance rides are five figures for some reason.
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>>534856625
you've basically identified all the problems with health insurance, nice job anon!
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>>534856707
How would universal health care solve that?

Hospitals purchases their own medicine from a number of disparate suppliers, and most ambulances are operated by 3rd party contractors.
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>>534827683
Trump is asking for 1 Trillion more tax dollars for the military to fund the Iran war.

Where is the money going to come from for that?
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>>534827683
you deserve cancer
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>>534856895
>How would regulating something that is currently unregulated bring down prices

You are either stupid or underage.

Why is veterans care at the VA cheaper than it is for civilians?
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>>534827683
Every time I go to the USA I’m reminded why taxes aren’t that bad. Sure we’re taxed high here but I still own a house, two cars, three kids, etc etc etc. when I go to the states every single road is falling apart. The street lights look like a crackhead strung them up. There’s garbage literally fucking everywhere. Community centres look run down. Cop cars look old and shitty. Street lights barely work. and if you get sick, there’s a chance you’re now in debt for the rest of your life as the middle class there doesn’t have health care at all. You can’t even have a kid without going into debt. Free healthcare is doubt and I’ve never waited more than a week for an MRI. Cherry pick stories all you want, you’ll find the exact same wait times in burgerland, not that it matter because mutts can’t afford medical care anyways. Also we have no interest in student loans. The only people that actually want to immigrate to the USA now is low IQ browns because they fell for the meme that it’s the best country in earth. Real ones know otherwise.
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ITT mutts desperately coping because they want to make (((doctors))) and (((insurance))) agents richer.
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>>534856895
>How would universal health care solve that?
By not doing this:
>Hospitals purchases their own medicine from a number of disparate suppliers, and most ambulances are operated by 3rd party contractors.
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>>534857239
stop going to the fucking hood then. America is GIGANTIC and far more diverse than any nation on the planet. And by diverse I mean REAL diversity, not just non-white definition of diversity.

Health care is AMAZING in America. I've known a ridiculous amount of people that have gotten "terminal cancer" only to turn out perfectly fine, healthy, and in some cases basically cancer will not effect their lives at all.

In places with "free healthcare" you re stuck in lines for hours, stuck on waiting lists for months, and in some cases prescribed to "just go fucking die in a pod" because caring for you would be expensive.
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>>534857134
>Why is veterans care at the VA cheaper than it is for civilians?

Because the VA has it's own shitty network of providers and suppliers that cut every conceivable corner down the line.

Meanwhile, you get to enjoy the benefit of choosing your own providers at a much higher cost.

The only way the public sector could compete is if you nationalized the medical industry. So it's price vs. freedom.
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>>534827683
Could you explain how your medical insurance pays for healthcare?
Oh wait, it works exactly like you’ve described free healthcare with the added cost of insurance premiums
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>>534857239
Yeah but you're kibd over overvaluing the weight of debt. It's honestly just a meme to most of us if it isn't something they'll reposess. Just like with our gov, we just don't pay it after we get settled in life and dont care about or credit score anymore. Especially not medical debt, that shit gets passed down like 3 tiers of collectors and that 80k turns into $100.
Then we die in debt, which at that point it is no longer debt, it's solid profit.
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>>534857532
>Could you explain how your medical insurance pays for healthcare?
Insurance companies combines the sum total of all payments paid for by their customers and distributes portions of that sum total to cover medical costs each customer qualifies for depending on how much they paid into their system.

Some people opt for more comprehensive coverage while paying more, other people receive less coverage for paying less.

The premiums pay for the employees that work for the companies, the physical/digital infrastructure required to operate that business, lawyers that have to litigate, lawsuits to pay out, etc, while the profits get distributed to the shareholders who pay money to receive a return on their investments.

Do you really not understand what insurance is?



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