After liberation of Ukraine and Hungary, this will be the next Jewish project
>>534829222no, everyone knows its the balticseven the baltics knows its the baltics and they've started preparing
>>534829142and this will actually be serbia
>>534829142K
>>534829142Sorry, but why should I care? I've got better things to be doing than jerking off to map porn like you do.
>>534829142we dont want it
Don't be silly
also>1pbtid ragebait thread
>>534829142And will be.
>>534830885>t. Kmicoslav Poturenkovic
>>534831140inceldom of serbia
How similar are Muslim Bosnians to Albanians? I knew a Muslim Montenegrin girl who worked with me at Walmart back in America and always thought it was funny she tried to be friends with the Iranians "because I'm Muslim too guys" and they just weren't interested because she was obviously white. Albanians are whiter than Iranians but not white.
>>534829142Just let Germany run it
>>534831946What state did you live in?
>>534833158Texas, which is browner than California and even Albania. The call to prayer shit is annoying but more Americans should come here (we can pretty much stay forever), it's like Switzerland but dirt cheap and more stray animals, cigarettes and old abandoned buildings.
>>534833391>(we can pretty much stay forever)wdym? How long have you been there and what are you doing for work?
>>534833632I have a remote IT job, but I make more money from stock options. I should have specified one of those things are required. Americans can stay a year in Albania and then just visa hop once a year to stay forever in Europe but yeah they aren't handing out work permits as easily
>>534829552Sad trvthnvke :(>>534831946Both claim they're secular muslims, at least the city slickers. Sarajevo feels very much like an ex-yu secular town, although i've heard people have gotten more islamic in the last 10 years or even more. Kosovo and Macedonian Albanians are definitely more islamic, while Albanians from Albania are much more chill from what i've heard
>>534833866Ah ok. Was a work or salary requirement in place for your visa or are you just hopping around on passport only?
>>534834270We dont need a visa, just show up and move on in. There are buses in the parking lot at the airport to take you downtown and then wherever you want to go after that
>>534834350>We dont need a visa, just show up and move on in.Damn, so we get the jeet treatment? Sweet!
>>534829142both Serbia and Croatia are arming themselves, that means the jews are planing something and there will be a war. now will ot be croatia and Serbia, or against bosnia that is the question. probably serbia will attack bosnia and croatia will go in an protect them and the battle will be fought completely in Bosnia at the end Bosnia will split and croatia will get their part, serbia will lose because they are alone. this will actually be used to test the new weapons for the EU, and will accelerated the weapon manufacturing in EU. serbia will be a proxy for russia , but there is zero chance they win, yet their politicians will gladly kill the young population on the altar of the jews.
>>534834113They say there are no-go zones for non-muslims in SarajevoAlbania is an Africa-tier shithole outside of Tirana (Burdeshas and shit) and I doubt Tirana is very progressive, it's just less of a shithole.As for Macedonia, watch that Honeyland documentary (not Angelina Jolie) and also Burdesha if you can find it, I saw it on TV.
>Jews As if Balkan retards needs the Jews to kill eachother. They will happily do it because 800 years ago someone from the neighbouring village insulted a chicken in his village and therefore genocidal war is the only correct answer for such a slight
>>534835066>I doubt Tirana is very progressiveHave you been to every Balkan capital ? I have, they are all Globohomo bastions that make California look sane and trad by comparison
>>534835066Nah, sarande is the nicest part of Albania. There are more Germans and french tourists here than Albanians and their money flowing in is noticable. I hear it's the same in Cebu Philippines. I prefer Europe to asia personally
>>534834902Who's gonna go to war my dude.Bosnia can have a war and volunteers might come from Croatia and Serbia but that's it. How will you get young people to go fight in Bosnia.As for arming themselves kek, Serbia is alone so they have been arming the whole time and Croatia has such a lousy army it's unbelievable, they buy one gun and it looks like they are arming. They are completely dependent on foreign help in literally everything, it's not a country.
>>534829142The Eternal Serb's greed for map painting was directly responsible for millions of dead in WWI.The second time we learned that we had to bomb you the third time before you got too uppityThere won't be a Serbia to be bombed for the fifth time.
>>534835452I dont even like Balkaners.But I can confidently say I want to see kino Sarracen genocide.Watching mudslimes die is the purest form of kino.
>>534835452>The Eternal Serb's greed for map painting was directly responsible for millions of dead in WWI.The fact that you still entertain and believe the notion that WW 1 did, in fact, kick off because of the A-HU throne heir being assassinated speaks volumes about you, you brownoid cucklet shit eater. Actually, let me correct myself: it DID kick it off, but it wasn't the real reason for it. WW1 well in preparation before that event. And what bombing? What did Portugal even do in that bombing that would have (YOU) included in it? Your country hasn't been relevant since your seamen first set foot in Brazil, nigger. Serbia has survived everything thrown at it so far, we are everywhere and we can survive anything. You, on the other hand, will entirely collapse the moment EU gibs and handouts die due to Germoney failing, Joao. We'll see who'll be watching whose corpse float by.
>>534830885You vill take us in and you vill enjoy it.
>>534829142croaches will be lucky they keep their croachistan let alone get a single mm2 of Serbia lmao i dont give a shit if bazniaks eat you alive in BiH
>>534829142ayo Croatia be likeIll just take all this beachfront property if you dont mind
>>534835066>Burdeshaswtf is this
>>534834902There can be no war between Croatia and Serbia. Serbia does not have the military, diplomatic and demographic advantage it had in '91 and they have come to terms with the fact that Croatian territories will never be part of Serbia. And with all that, Croatia is part of NATO. Also, Croats and Serbs in Bosnia are allies, lol. Bosnia is de facto already divided. Muslims live in 23% of Bosnia, and if Croats and Serbs declared independence/joined Croatia and Serbia, respectively, they would not be able to do anything about it because they have no army, weapons, access to the sea or navigable river, money, allies and demographics. Last year, the 'central' Muslim authorities in Sarajevo issued an arrest warrant for the leader of the Bosnian Serbs. He traveled the world regardless and not only that - he came to eastern Sarajevo, maybe 150 meters away from the Muslim part of the city, and the Muslims did not dare send the police to arrest him. KWAB. So, there can be no war. Muslims are, in fact, the only ones who want it because they feel like someone is pulling the rug under their feet, but they can't do anything because they don't have an army or weapons.
>>534835795The problem is that you big brain boys in the West can't understand that the assassination happened because Serbs didn't want Bosnia to integrate into Germanic lands and that it did kick off the war because Russians egged them on thinking they will persuade your country to stand down. But no, it's some big plot scheme, not Russia pushing its golem Serbia to get under the bus. It's tied to their Byzantine imperial aspirations, but none of you seem to get it in Central and Western Europe.
>>534829397Quick rundown?
>>534836106Bosnia is Dar al-Islam.Whats this Germanic larp?
>>534836220You wouldn't understand because it's not your neck of the woods.
>>534836254Balkans is not Germanic neck of the woods either.Its a weird mix of Slav, Arab, Turk and Gypsy.
>>534835452Keksaved
>>534829142Both serbia and croatia are far too weak to make this real.
>>534836004This is the dumbest meme on the internet. Before the Turkish conquests, Croatia had almost complete Bosnia. Today's unnatural shape of Croatia is not because we took someone's coast, but the result of genocide, ethnic cleansing and replacement of the population under Turkish and later communist rule in Bosnia in the last 600 years.
>>534829142How does this benefit Croatia in any way?>more Herzegovnians>less actual Croats>more agencies by Herzegovnians to import jeetsThis would only hurt us, ironically the Serbs too if they added like 1.5 million Muslims into their country as if Albanians aren't problematic enough
>>534836348You dont need to integrate the muslims.3 minutes is enough for complete suffocation.Thats 20 every hour by a pair of hands.
>>534836106Samire, who funded the major participants of WW1? I am well aware that higher powers were behind crna ruka, and I did concede that it was the official whistle to the war. But the war was not about the assassination. It was about colonies and what kikes have been effectively doing for the last 120 or so years: killing off Europeans and making money off it.
>>534834902Serbs and Croats will be replaced by jeets and niggers, we don't need more wars to do it faster
>>534829142I would be okay with it. Bosniaks are submissive mudshit white converts who don't deserve their own country.
>>534836521Yugoslavs arent really muh hwite though.Balkaners as a whole dont really fit the hwite nexus.
>>534836314It was the Austrian neck of the woods by Bismarck's design in the Berlin congress and this angered Russians because they dreamed of becoming the Eastern Orthodox Empire 2.0. The Austrians did a good job of integrating the region and the AH heir was going to give South Slavs in the empire political power, which would have permanently ruined Serbian dreams of taking parts of primarily Bosnia, so the Russians used this sentiment to stoke anti AU movements under the guise of liberation, while it was a Serbian proxy move for Russia all along where their interests alligned. Everyone here knows this. What do you think is the reason our people fought for the AH empire as staunchly as they dud despite having only three decades of shared history.
>>534829142No
>>534836724You monkeys fought for Habsburg gibs since they were the only ones that wouldnt genocide you.Part of the reason why Hitler hated that wretched Austro-Hungarian chimeric beast.Circumcised gyppos from Bosnia considered human..Fucking lolThe Austrians were the ultimate cucks to Magyar and Slav bullshit.And they paid for not genociding Jews and Muslims.
>>534836348You are retarded. It is beneficial for all Croats to live in the same country because we will be stronger. If the Croats from Bosnia biologically disappear, we will have Muslims and Serbs within 10km of the sea as the crow flies. Croatia has no strategic depth and that is a huge problem. The Croatian interest is to take part of Bosnia, preferably 60%, even if that means that only bears and wolves will live in that 60% of Bosnia, but better that than Serbs and Muslims. How long does it take you idiots to understand that?
>>534836063Burdesha is like a secular nun, meaning if she doesn't want to marry then she can assume male identity (but not sleep with women) and then men will leave her alone.I don't think it's religious in any way, some ancient custom.Imo they are often, but not always, lesbians who can't express themselves so they choose that.In the film there were three as I rememberOne was a fat short haired extroverted dyke, maybe in her 40s, hard to tell, a truck driver, speaks derogatory of women like a Balkan truck driver would but the other truckies have wives or girlfriends or hookers, this one just larps at the truck stop bar. Wears pants and sweaters and tries to look like a man.The second was an old lady in an old fashion male suit, acting pretty normal. Her grand niece of maybe 12 yo said she always thought it's a grandpa and she just found out it's a grandma. Probably a lesbian.The third one was sad. A young woman in her 20s, said when she was young she dreamt of falling in love and getting married but her brothers wanted to sell her to some old man so she escaped by becoming a burdesha. She follows the dress code to a minimum, does wear a black skirt and a suit jacket and so on, and a hat, sort of bowler style, but doesn't larp as a man but somehow she's not considered a woman.She escaped the old man but now as a burdesha she can't marry.
>>534836334Bosnia was an independent kingdom for three centuries and beat back a crusade, while Croatia was taken over by Hungary all along. Croatia did hold parts of Bosnia in the first millennium, but never after 1108, except a shifting border around Krajina due to crusade expeditions.>inb4 KosacaHe was a Bosnian noble, vassal to the Bosnian king. The official religion was Catholicism, but many people practiced proto Christianity, which is why nobody helped Bosnia vs the Ottomans.
>>534835294croatia has a bigger and better equipt army than serbia, you got cocky back in the day and you where running on tractors. if there is a war youa re losing it 100% of the time and that is even without outside help. >>534836081yeah i was thinking that it is something like this, well it would be nice is bosina got divided for real, not a real county either way. good luck on the upcoming war , nobody is asking you if you want to go, you are going, nobody is asking russians and Ukrainians either you are going. jews need sacrifice and you all are willing to give>>534836506we are all being replaced by jeets , but they want to speed it much more
There is no more reason for Croatia to be independent from Serbia or vice versa than for Bosnia to be independent. Unfortunately Yugoslavia failed, so the three countries will remain extant
>>534837098>croatia has a bigger and better equipt army than serbiaCompletely ridiculous take. Also, Serbia produces its own arms, and high quality arms at that. Something Croatia does not.
>>534836871this is actually very very correct. it is out of strategic importance that Croatia gets a piece of Bosnia.
>>534837098>croatia has a bigger and better equipt army than serbiaThat's not true, Croatian army is practically non existentSure they have offices and shit to hire their cousins and leech off the budget but that's it
>>534837212that is simply not true, and the things that serbia is producing are things that are not needed for modern combat. actually 90% of weapons manufacturing is still outdated. croatia is producing drones, and that is 80% of the combat that you need.
>>534837312ahhh ok whatever you say. those cousins beat the shit out of serbia when serbia was 10x stronger
>>534837327Croatia has the Franco-German connection.So they will always be confortable geopolitically.
>>534837327Ohhhh man, I don't know what you're huffing, but huff less of it. >https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.php?form=form&country1=croatia&country2=serbia&Submit=COMPARE>my army can beat up your army
Croatia should get only the circled canton Posavina. Srpska and Brčko go to Serbia. The rest is an independent secular Bosniak state.
>>534829222Really tragic what the Jews did to this place in the 1990sThey were the modern test case for a modern country that refused to accept deindustrialization and vassalage under the (((IMF))) so they used sanctions, international isolation and internal divisions to provoke a brothers war then subsequently sicced their Golems on them to obliterate their industry and infrastructure as well as establish (((NATO))) basesAnd just like you said, they may have more planned. That's they engineered Bosnia to be a in a perpetual state of gridlock and frozen conflict. They can literally restart shit any time they want like it never stopped
>>534837031Retard, medieval Bosnia IS a Croatian state inhabited by Croats and ruled by mostly Croatian families. No, today's Muslims are not the heirs of medieval Bosnia: the graves of medieval Bosnian kings are in Croatian monasteries in Bosnia and these monasteries are visited only by Croats. You have a 'pyramid' in Visoko.
>>534837436There was never a war between Croatia and Serbia. Serbs in Croatia wanted independence, they got some aid and volunteers from Serbia but it was the local population, it was in fact a civil war but Croats won't admit it bcs politics.There were some Yugoslav Army actions but that army was in shambles, Croats defecting taking airplanes and shit.Those who left on tractors weren't invaders who had to retreat, they were a local population that was there for centuries.
>>534837212Croatia produces some of the best pistols and rifles in the world (HS, Karlovac) and produces several hundred thousand drones annually.
>>534836081This is the only real post ITT.Nothing will happen. But I must admit since new pro-eu leftist secular government took over in Sarajevo Muslims are whipping themselves into a nationalist frenzy. Propaganda is worse than it was 10-15 years ago, and they have the feel of post WWI Germany. Nothing will happen but I think there will be more isolated incidents.
>>534837594If medieval Bosnians were Croats than modern Bosnians are Croats. Bosnian identity formed during the medieval period due to the local monarch promoting the Bogomilist Bosnian Church which made Bosnians more sympathetic to Islamization later on. Similar to pagan Albanians.
>>534837554>so they used sanctions, international isolation and internal divisions to provoke a brothers warYou really got the timeline wrong
>>534837545Wait, you think Croats will fight so that ungrateful Muslim scum can get a state? Lol. Muslims will get nothing, nobody needs a European Gaza under the control of Turkish and Iranian intelligence services.
>>534837781Modern Bosniaks are a collection of all ethnic groups in the Balkans that converted to Buttslam.All radicated into one refugee camp.It has zero origins in any medieval Bosnian state.
>>534837831>Muh IslamI do not care about two sandnigger religions fighting. I hope Iran wipes Israel out and I hope there's an Arab secular state there
>>534837594>medieval Bosnia IS a Croatian state inhabited by CroatsHow do you know that medieval Croatia isn't a Bosnian state inhabited by Bosnians ?I mean you're retarded
>>534837701Tanks and an army set out directly from Belgrade to occupy Croatia. They attacked with everything they had, but were stopped in Vukovar.
>>534837928Because Bosnia is the name of a river, and Croat is the name of a people. You fucking idiot.
>>534831140>Nobody wants iceland other than the coast
>>534837990>Croat is the name of a people.A Scythian-Iranic group.Long lost to history.To be fair.
>>534837870You could say the same thing about Croats and Catholicism or Serbs and Orthodoxy. Bosnians was majority Muslim so if a Serb or Croat converted to Islam they were considered part of the Bosnian nation
>>534837990Hrvat comes from Russian khrebet, mountain chainOne is a mountain the other one is a riverAlso how do you know Bosna river wasn't named after people>He thinks people came to the river and it already had a nameKek was there like a plate "welcome to Bosnia" lmao, who put it thereYou're dumb as fuck
>>534837781That theory is debunked long ago and is now pushed only by islamized slavs who are coping about their acceptance of islam. Bogomils were a minor sect not widespread, it was only used as a casus belli in Hungarian historical records to justify the raids into Bosnia. Even then they were eradicated 150 years before Bosnian church was established. Bosnian church was actually of orthodox rite but was politically independent because the king was sick of both Catholic and Orthodox influence. Actually rate of islamization in Bosnia was no different than in Serbia or Bulgaria. The only difference is that Serbia for example freed itself of Ottoman rule and converted back/expulsed its muslim population. Most of the expulsed Muslims came to Bosnia actually which was still under Ottoman rule. Then Austrians came and it was too late to do anything about the Muslims.Also they were a minority until after WWII, only during communism and free gibs they exploded their population. Just look at the 1931. census, serbs were the majority.
>>534838078Not really. Since Serbs and Croats didnt substantiate their identities on religion only.Bosniaks are literally just mudslimes.Refugees of a thousand muslim pogroms during the fall of their caliphate.
>>534838224What do you call a Catholic Serb or an Orthodox Croat?
>Blocks your path
>>534838078Bosnia was a border area between Croats and Serbs. Religion and ethnicity played a lesser role, medieval Bosnian state rested only on fealty to the king, be it Croat catholic or Serb orthodox noble family.
>>534836871>It is beneficial for all Croats to live in the same country because we will be stronger.True, but Herzegovnians ain't Croats
>>534838369Written in Cyrillic, full of Christian symbols, mainly found beneath modern orthodox churches and cemeteries.They were more of a noble status thing than expression of ethnic culture. As soon as that nobility disappeared with the Ottomans those monuments did too.
>>534838388>Bosnian state rested on fealty to the kingThat's how nations are formed. That's why Czechs and Slovaks are different from Poles. All Slavs are the same tribe that got seperated by politics are gradually evolved into different peoples.
>>534838529The monuments disappeared they converted to Sunni Islam which bans depiction of people
>>534838531>All Slavs are the same tribe that got seperated by politics are gradually evolved into different peoples.Factually wrong. Serbs and Croats existed before moving here. So did Moravians, Bohemians, Slovaks and Lechs.
>>534838653There's no evidence of that and even if the tribes seperated earlier, they're still of the Slavic peoples like the twelve tribes of Israel are all still jews
>>534838579Only tiny percent of the monuments had figural representations. Vast majority, more than 95% of them was unadorned. They could have just continued to make the unadorned ones.
>>534838046That's not important. People under that national name came from today's southern Poland and named the territory and the country after themselves. Bosnia is a river and the people who lived around it were called locally 'Bosnians', but even Turkish travel writers claim that 'Croats live next to the river Bosnia'. Communist historiography tried to create the Bosnian nation by using the 'speciality' of the Bogumil (a small, insignificant sect that practically did not exist until the arrival of the Turks) based on the false narrative that national division arose from religion, but that is a lie. Croats and Serbs were de facto of the same religion for at least 600 years, but they had separate states and identities. Bogumili are not a nation, being a 'Bosnian' and a Bogumil does not mean that you are not a Croat or a Serb.
>>534838529>full of Christian symbolsWrongOut of 70-100 000 existing today only 368 have some Christian inscriptionsThey are ancient, probably 1500 - 50 BC
>>534838703Slavs are not ethnic but linguistic group, there was no primordial Slavic nation which split up. It was just a collection of tribes who spoke similar languages.
>>534837701>it was in fact a civil warBy the very definition it wasn't, it was a war of dissolution, not a war to change the control of the whole country to any of the sides in the conflict
>>534838831By that cope definition American civil war wasn't a civil war
>>534837707>VHS bullpup>goodKek, I really don't understand why they didn't just base the new AR on the American M4 platform, it would have been much better
>>534838779You have no idea what are you talking about.
>>534838653I was gonna resist posting because I hate being baited by these low effort nigger-balkan threads, but there's one argument to shut this retard meme-flag down immediately, which is that muslims were never the majority in bosnia. Even their king Cтeфaн Tвpткo I Кoтpoмaнић, was a fucking Serb, which they use to justify their existence.Who cares if there really was a small amount of truly ethnically Bosniaks? This argument always evolves into implying they were the majority in the region, when in fact Serbs were the majority in the region until WW1, when Serbs lost 33% of their overall population. And the even bigger implication is that these Bosniaks should control all of the territory of Bosnia because that's how it was formed when they were literally ruled by a Serbian king, when they only live in like 25% of overall Bosnia, and that the Croats and Serbs there should just be stuck in the state with them despite not wanting to. People assume because Serbs committed genocide, that somehow we increased our numbers there, but that's not true, we just drew the borders. We were the largest ethnic group there before WW1, and if anything the Serb population has been declining since the Yugoslav wars, but less so than that of Bosniaks and Croats, because they have higher fertility rates. So why should the modern state of Bosnia exist within its current borders, when they only inhabit 25% of Bosnia and are still not the majority (they're only 39%, serbs 33%).Don't waste your time arguing with a retard, Bosnia is like a dysfunctional mini Yugoslavia that cannot work and never will work. It's just a matter of when it collapses, and Muslims chose it for themselves with Izetbegovic, but we don't talk about that anywhere, do we, because how else would they be innocent victims?
>>534838905It wasn't
>>534838946>No argumentsI accept your concession although I'd rather discuss those things but what can you do, a low IQ Balkanoid simply doesn't have the required faculties
>>534838217Serbs were the majority in Bosnia until 1971, I was shocked when I heard that. Muslims had some crazy population explosion. When Yugoslavia was formed there were half a million of them, 70 years later there were 2 million. The war actually started because the Serbs realized that Albanians and Bosnian Muslims would make up more than 50% of the population of Yugoslavia by 2011. Muslims and Albanians imagined that they would come to power with a dick instead of a gun, parasitizing on Croatian, Slovenian and Serbian (Vojvodina) money. We spent 70 years throwing money into those black holes.
>>534838962Nah, I just like writing effortposts on history of Bosnia since there is a lot of misconceptions and no real scrutiny.
>>534838475Mujo, vrati se na red*it
>>534839110I cant really argue with such absurd claims, it is as if you smeared yourself in shit and asked me for an opinion. Not even rabid we wuzzing muslim ever claimed those things are prehistoric.
>>534839108Was it an aggression by a foreign country
>>534839133This. They were expecting free money while also being terrorists all in the name of Islam and burning Christian churches and terrorizing the Christian population. If you read any of the stuff Izetbegovic was writing, then it becomes obvious they'd rather be Muslims than South Slavs. Izetbegovic was jailed for a reason, and then somehow rose to power and wanted his own Bosniak Muslim state within its current borders despite not even being the majority and to piss on the wounds of all the Serbs who died in WW1. We would've been fine as a region if there simply weren't Muslims here. We never had any wars before Yugoslav wars and before Muslims.
>>534839286It was an aggression by the Union, yes
True, and then "Croatia" should go to Germany and "Serbia" should go to Russia.
>>534839399Fuck off zigger retard
>>534839133You sound like you read herceg-bosna forum lol. That is where i heard about that same theory and it makes a lot of sense.>Serbs were the majority in Bosnia until 1971Lot of killed in WWII and then commies relocated shitload of Serbs from Bosnia to Vojvodina after. Muslims on the other hand lived on commie gibs and multiplied. Additional thing is that Serbs and Croats were more educated and got jobs industry/white collar and their population plummeted while Muslims were illiterate peasants who multiplied.
>>534839133>We spent 70 years throwing money into those black holes.Hahahaha yet somehow in 35 years of independence the debt quadrupled, the industry was decimated (the industry that didn't exist before commies but somehow spontaneously appeared even though they were throwing money away. What money, how did you earn that money ? Kek retard)
>>534839424This is a majority gypsy and zigger country, we should respect the wishes of the majority. Serbs decided where they will go 35 years ago.
>>534839359So the USA was 2 countries before the so called civil war, there was the country named Union that attacked [what country] and annexed it ?Is that what you're saying ?Who were the presidents of the annexed country, what was their constitution ?
>>534839477Except it's not, 36% are pro-EU, 33% against and the rest say they have no opinion on the matter. Gypsies are an issue only in certain neighborhoods in larger cities, overall they're not as much of an issue now, there's around 350000 of them, which is a lot, but there are neighbor countries with a much bigger issue proportionally, specifically Romania and Bulgaria. The only ziggers left are yugo-nostalgic boomers and retards like you, on /pol/.
>>534839600Serbia is a Turko-Oriental country and we both know it. All one needs is to step outside. From music, food to ecology, this is an extension of MENA and an outpost of Asia.
>>534839133Why are you surprised lol do you know how many Croats got killed or left Bosnia back then? Or how many Bosniaks(even the AU empire called us that and the Ottomans too) or Croat Muslims had to say they were Yugoslav to avoid persecution. Saying Croatian Muslim was essentially the equivalent of socially executing yourself out of any chances. Much of Banja Luka was settled by Serbs who never lived there after the earthquake hit the place.
>>534839684Sure thing, Muhamid.
>>534839684That's what 500 years of rule does of whatever empire.
>>534839876Nobody mentioned genetics.
>>534829142The fuck is a Banovina?
>>534840023Like a state or a county but for niggersLike Bantustan
>>534839351Because of the war in Croatia, I thought you were to blame for the war in Bosnia. The "Croatian" media persistently names the Croats as the culprits of the war (division of Bosnia, etc.), along with the Serbs, and that the poor poor Muslims are the victims of a billion genocides. In fact, Izetbegovic declared 'either a civil state, or a civil war' ('civil state' means that the Muslims can outvote the Christians in Bosnia due to their numbers and turn it into their own national state) and along the way they rejected the Lisbon Agreement, to which both Croats and Serbs agreed, and which was almost identical to the Dayton Agreement. So, because of the iq 80 of the Islamist Alija Izmetbegovic, people died in a futile war for 3 years.
>>534839989You mentioned music and food? "Our food" is more similar to Central European one than that anything in MENA. We eat a shit ton of meat, including meat that is forbidden in islam. The cuisine we have in ex-yu balkans (croatia, bosnia, serbia and slovenia) is the same thing you'd find in South Germany. Our music is shared in all the ex-yu region and is nowadays mostly wigger hip-hop, or auto-tuned pop or whatever zoomers call it nowadays. Besides, if Serbian culture is that, what do we say about Bulgaria, Greece, Romania, Albania, or, well muslim Bosniaks who even went on to adopt the religion? We have influence from the ottoman empire, but not as much as most of our neighbors, excluding Hungary and Croatia. What if we had hundreds of thousands of turks like they do in Bulgaria?
>>534839399Sta ima ba u novom pazaaaaaaaaru? Mater ti lojavu jebem.
>>534840215Yes, it's insane how no one mentions Izetbegovic's ideological and political goals, which he could not have stated any more clearly in his book. No one even mentions he was arrested in Yugoslavia for the same reason. But it doesn't matter, besides for negatively affecting the present and the future of the entire region. It cannot last. It's too dysfunctional as a state to exist, because there are 3 ethnic groups that cannot work in a democratic system. It's a mini yugoslavia, and it would be the best for everyone, including Bosniaks, if they just let Serbs and Croats secede, so that they can have their own country within reasonable borders, and so that they don't have Serbs and Croats in the parliament anymore, since it's simply too dysfunctional to ever work. It simply cannot exist as a state within a democratic framework without ethnic cleansing or genocide, so that Bosniaks are the overwhelming majority.
>>534836447Yes Hans, I know who funded it. The point is to be smart and ensure you don't do something stupid that enables said funders. Serbian authorities weren't smart and neither were the Russians. They genuinely thought they could get something out of doing the assassination. The point being, the war wouldn't have started without this justification. Would there be some other schemes? Sure there would, but the easiest prey predictably latched on. All they had to do was stop the rebel movement and talk candidly, but they didn't want to because they wanted to rip up the effects of the Berlin congress hoping to exploit the new Balkan Wars momentum in creating Slavic Byzantium 2.0(the Russian dream since Catherine).
>>534840252Funny thing about folk music is that it isnt really Ottoman import. It is just ancient greek/byzantine music which even western music comes from, just differently evolved.
>>534840417Problem with Muslims is that they are divided in three separate enclaves. They would need to make an agreement with Croats to connect them all into one rump state. Other thing is that for 35 years now they were listening to 100% of Bosnia propaganda, and it would be extremely difficult to sell them anything but.All this nationalist surge is because of the fact that they convinced themselves they are owed 100% of Bosnia but own just 23%, they are getting desperate.
>>534837594The Bosnian kings are also burried near Visoko where commies built a road right through the middle of the medieval church in order to destroy Bosnian history. Yes, we are the descendants of medieval Bosnians precisely because we're not Catholics for the most part. The medieval Bosnian population was Catholic in name only and a smaller part wss truly Catholic, which is why it was crusaded in the 1200s and left to be conquered by the Ottomans. Croatia at the time was under Hungarian sovereignty. This is why you remained in your historical lands because Catholic Europe protected you as true Catholics in Krajina and West of the country, whike leaving us at the mercy of the Ottomans.
>>534839449Yugoslavia's "industry" employed an abnormally large number of people, Yugoslavia got into debt because of this and eventually went bankrupt in the 80s. There was no coffee for a year. The shops were empty. Massive hyper inflation. Current reductions. Oil shortages. And all that time, 'industrial superpower Yugoslavia' actually lived on Croatian foreign exchange (tourism). I think that Croatia paid 60-70% of its foreign exchange income into the common federal treasury, and only 10% of that was returned. And now you are trying to present to me that it is somehow better than today's Croatia, which in the meantime has literally become a first world country. Bosnia is over. You have no capacity to be a nation because you are not one. Gas diversification has already taken place, which has already divided Bosnia into Croatian and Serbian parts, and this will lead to the closure of all industrial facilities in Bosnia, which means Muslim displacement and that is game over. You are simply not operationally capable of anything more complicated than making cevapi, burek SA SIROM and singing on 'Zvijzde Granda'. You deserve to disappear and you will disappear. And we will be happy.
>>534840851It wasn't because of debt, you had a larger debt to gdp ratio in 2020 and 2021 (something crazy like 90%) and even now it's at 60%, and for Serbia it's 40%. It was strictly because of communism and a closed market, don't let anyone brainwash you into thinking it was because of the debt which was comically low compared to what most countries' is now (it was 32% at peak in Yugoslavia). It was because stupid commies didn't know how to run the economy, because the workers managed companies and production, and because not one of them knew anything about economics outside of Slovenia, which tried to push us in the right direction.
>>534840215>Low IQ IslamistYou do realize had it not been fir that low IQ Croatia would have been cut in half and never put back together, right? But I guess we really are low IQ for not staying in Yugoslavia and watchingit unfold. Instead Croats voted for Bosnian independence and offloaded most of tge war to us.
>>534840417This Croat with the Bosnian flag gave you a good answer. I would just add that no one will give the Muslims an ethnic state because they would immediately turn into a new Gaza. In the end, the Muslims will get nothing. They can only be some vassal Croatian county that we will displace or something like that.
>>534840851>which in the meantime has literally become a first world country.Pfffft, yeah, it sure did become one seeing all these jeets every day
>>534840681Incredibly few of us think we own 100% of the country. It's the most retarded thing that keeps getting repeated and it's just blatantly untrue. The truth is tgat multiculturalism is offloaded to us, while non Bosniak territories enjoy nationalistic homogeneity. The EU larpers mabdate fag parades to us, while the Serbs beat them to a pulp and nobody bats an eye, but some beardes guy holding a sign saying faggotry is a sin makes headlines about extremism. This faggotry is so annoying, I hope you all carve this country up and then just end in the inevitable mutual war 50 years down the line with 20% Indian troops because Serbs will live in Austria and Croats in Germany.
>>534841133It would be best if they simply vanished from the region, but that is not realistic because no one will let us do that. The most realistic scenario is the secession of Croats and Serbs, it's more likely than the country lasting another 25 years. The states of Serbia and Croatia wouldn't even have to do anything. If we're going to schizopost and post ideal scenarios, then yeah they won't exist. But the most realistic scenario here is Serbs and Croats seceding peacefully, the second most likely scenario is Serbia and Croatia intervening in Bosnia to ensure that happens, and the third most likely scenario is that they exist for another 50 or so years until propaganda wears off
>>534841023The war in Croatia started before the war in Bosnia and the Serbs took the maximum they could, then a ceasefire was signed and then Croatia received full international recognition. So, you see, they couldn't cut Croatia in half. Croatia saved you. Over half a million of your refugees lived in Croatian hotels, and all the food, medicine, weapons and even the mujahedin came to Bosnia through Croatia. And what did you do then? You attacked the Croatian enclaves in central Bosnia trying to create lebensraum because the Serbs ethnically cleansed you from the Podrinje. Twice in the 20th century we saved you from the Serbian knife, believe me - we won't do it again.
>>534841133Very true, we're condemned to this dystopian system precisely because of this. No amount of letting faggots parade, hosting Popes, being tolerant while intolerant Africans freely enter the EU will change anything. Just carve it up and be done with it.
>>534829142>Skopje is the capital of Banovina of SerbiaThey really turned the LARP up to 11 with this one, didn't they?
>>534840851>Yugoslavia's "industry" employed an abnormally large number of peopleHigh employment ? Wow that's terrible.What industry Croatia has currently.>There was no coffee for a year. The shops were empty. Massive hyper inflation. Current reductions. Mostly made up and exaggerated shit>Oil shortages. Lmao retard oil shortages happened in the USA in the 70s to and are happening right now because Arabs chimped out not bcs muh TitoKek retard>And all that time, 'industrial superpower Yugoslavia' actually lived on Croatian foreign exchange (tourism).Hahaha so Croatian tourism could feed the entire Yugoslavia and sustain its industry but it can't feed one sixth of the former country, AKA Croatia>today's Croatia, which in the meantime has literally become a first world country. First world in what fucking way, because you have internet ? Kek.No industry, no culture, no innovation, no academia, no science. How do you define "Le First world"
>>534841530You keep forgetting how all those refugees were paid a premium for by the West, yeah? Also in 50 years when the Serbs go for your territory and start carving your country up, there won't be any low IQ Bosnians to take the brunt of the Serbian onslaught. The Hungarias and Italians are waiting for their turn too and this time there won't be a South Slavic army to defend you. Nor the Slovenes. Central Bosnia happened because you attacked un the South and also Central Bosnia was essentially headchoppers who came there through Croatia from the entire ME.
>>534841421We can deport them to Turkey without any problems. We just need the will to do it. You think the Trump administration would care if we did that? Croatia is in EU/NATO, would someone impose sanctions on us or attack us? Lol. Another option is to wait for a demographic cataclysm and for them to move to Germany, Austria, etc., and that is much closer than you think. In 50 years, there won't be any more of them here.
>>534841918Honestly I could see some special humanitarian operation done by Croatia in Federacija as soon as shit hits the fan here.
>>534841918>Croatia is in EU/NATO, would someone impose sanctions on us or attack us?No but they'd call Plenki or whoever to Brussels and tell him to cut the crap and he'd obey because that's what you do
>>534841865>Also in 50 years when the Serbs go for your territory and start carving your country upYou're the only one doing that to others, you inbred Muslim degen. We were the majority in Bosnia until the WW1, when we sacrificed like 33% of our population for these territories. You're the only one wanting all of Bosnia for yourself, because of borders a self-declared SERBIAN KING had in medieval times, when you only live in 25% of it and even now you are not the majority but plurality (39% bosniak 33% serb). You're the only one carving up territories you did not fight for. The reason people say you don't exist as an ethnicity (which is stupid, you do, your ethnicity and identity is tied to your religion), is because there was no mention of Bosniak identity as there is for Croatian and Serbian (2 neighboring slavic tribes migrating from Central Europe to Balkans), because the name you adopted is the name of a fucking river and not people, and because you have no language of your own. But this is irrelevant, you were never the majority in Bosnia, you live in 25% of the territory and yet you want to control 100% of the land that 33% of Serbs died for, which is the sole reason we are not still the majority like it was before WW1? Hypocritical muslim, I wish we didn't have you in our proximity, you're the most invasive, entitled species in the world.
>>534841918>there won't be anymore of them hereAnd that's a good thing. I'd unironically wash Chabad bed mattresses than be a surrounded by all of this. Then when the Chabad retirement lands, just watch your shitshow online once or twice a day.
>>534841918They're already such a small group of people, they're irrelevant. There are almost as many Serbs in Bosnia as there are Bosniaks overall. We can just build a wall around their Muslim enclaves in Bosnia and call it a day.
>>534842102Look, I don't care who was where. This area is a fucking zoo and your and the Croat anons children or grandchildren will inevitably end in an Electric Boogaloo 7 situation or whatever the count is at this point. I unironically don't give a shit if you carve this country up. The sooner you do it the better.
>>534842229Just don't forget to keep a gate in the wall somewhere so your president can drive home to his village over here where he descended from.
>>534841679>High employment ? Wow that's terrible.What industry Croatia has currently.Retard, Croatia still makes more money from industry than from tourism. It's not bad that people work, but what Yugoslavia did was like giving four kids an entire summer to sell ice cream on the beach from a crate and giving each of them 1,500 euros a month. That's impossible and makes no sense.>Mostly made up and exaggerated shitCope, balija. >Lmao retard oil shortages happened in the USA in the 70s to and are happening right now because Arabs chimped out not bcs muh TitoKek retardIt was also in the 80s, what does it matter. There was NOTHING left in the state.>Hahaha so Croatian tourism could feed the entire Yugoslavia and sustain its industry but it can't feed one sixth of the former country, AKA CroatiaDo you realize that this is official Yugoslav statistics? I didn't make that up. The Yugoslav dinar was worthless, like monopoly money, kwab>First world in what fucking way, because you have internet ? Kek.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country#/media/File%3AIMF_advanced_economies_map.svgSo, kys balija 'iq 85 the goatfucker' poturenkovic
>>534842423>i don't careClearly you do, otherwise you wouldn't be lying. You mention how you were oppressed under Austria-Hungary, but fail to realize like the hypocrite you are, that Serbs and Croats were oppressed under Ottomans for much longer (500 years versus several decades), and that the entire reason behind your existence is people refusing to pay the additional tax and instead choosing to convert. You do everything you accuse others of doing, you are a hypocrite and the worst kind, since you don't even realize it, you are truly just too stupid to conclude these things, because you are high on propaganda and lack critical thinking skills.
>>534842102Also it was your country that helped the Ottomans conquer ours, including Constantinople. Unironically the ONLY Europeans wo helped the Ottomans conquer muh Orthodox capital. You people are retards of the highest order who larp as this or that. Hell, you even stole the Byzantine flag after stabbing them in the back lmao>you see this 4xB on the Eastern Roman flag? Lets pretend it's actually 4xC! We're all illiterate so it won't matter if we do it
>>534841918The same country you want to deport them to would care, and the international community of retarded liberals would too. It's sad and I wish we could just kick them out, but it's true. Turkey regularly supplies weapons to Bosnia and Kosovo in the Balkans, because they are their pawns on the boards when it comes to this region, like we sadly are for Russians, but hopefully not for too long if Chudcic falls.
>>534842768Those who helped are literal ancestors of modern "Bosniaks", like literal.
>>534842558No I don't care at this point because you're unironically illiterate of your own history and that Croat is high on his own supply. The sooner you carve this shithole up the sooner you will fight eachother. It's a 35-50 year cycle that won't stop until some non-retarded people move in.
>>534842768The only wars we fought on the ottoman side were when we were a vassal state. Hopefully, I don't have to elaborate what a vassal state means. We fought alone for the most part, because we were not catholics and received no support from the Catholic Church. We fought endless wars and uprising alone until Russians helped us when it became convenient for their geopolitical goals. You didn't exist when we fell to the Ottomans, you were literally ruled by a Serbian king, and there was no trace of Islam in the region, which is the core part of your identityhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Serbian%E2%80%93Ottoman_conflicts
>ITT: Carefully worded replies to ease the eternal tensions, and calm down the war progress
>>534842872You have no arguments. Illiterate of what, everything I said is factual. You live in 25% of overall Bosnia, your first king was a self-declared Serb, you were never the majority in the region (even now you are not, still only 39% vs 33% or whatever), Serbs were before WW1, 1 out of 3 Serbs died for that territory in the first world war, or 1 out of every 2 men, and you want to piss on their wounds with Izetbegovic to demand an Islamic country in the borders that you view as your own because the region got those borders from a literal fucking Serbian king, despite not living in 75% of it? Then you want to cry about how we are the only reason you fell to the Ottomans, when it was you who converted, and when that conversion is the core of your identity? Cry me a river. Your country is not lasting another 25 years, you are too dysfunctional because of the ethnic divisions, just like Yugoslavia was. Your only hope is liberal propaganda not waning off in another 20 years, which will give you a few more decades. I'm out.
>>534842813No, Branković assisted the Ottomans. Most of the high ranking Ottomans who kept suppressing our rebellions here were Serbian children taken by the Turks from their families too.
>>534842813It's pointless. He will cry about a vassal state siding with Ottomans and ignore list of conflicts we had with them, while ignoring the fact his whole existence is due to the Ottomans, that he converted to not be discriminated against, and that with that he was to side with the Ottomans as well.
>>534843117Our king became the king of Serbs, as is customary when you become the ruler of a people or as kings proclaim themselves when claiming titles. That doesn't make him a Serb. It's like calling the current king Charles Scottish or Welsh.
>>534843133Which rebellion? >The Bosnian uprising (1831–1833), often called the Great Bosnian Uprising, was a major revolt led by Bosniak ayans (landlords) against Ottoman Sultan Mahmud II. Led by Husein-kapetan Gradaščević, the rebels opposed modernization reforms (Tanzimat) that aimed to abolish their feudal privileges. Despite significant military victories, the rebellion was crushed in 1832.>Cause: Resistance to Tanzimat reforms and the abolition of the ayan system, which threatened the power of local Bosnian nobility.>It is important to differentiate this 19th-century uprising of Muslim nobility against the Ottoman Sultan from other uprisings in the region, such as the Herzegovina uprising of 1875-1877, which was a revolt of the Christian Serb population against Ottoman You were fighting for the local nobility's greed, unlike Serbs or Croats in the region. You had no issue with the Ottomans other than that, because you basically became ones culturally.
>>534842507>Croatia still makes more money from industry than from tourism.What are some notable Croatian industrial products that are exported worldwide>Inb4 some pistol that's been exported in few thousand pieces
>>534843381My dude, his grandma was Serbian princess, literal genetics.
>>534843381Please read the wikipedia page and stop embarrassing yourself. He literally claimed to be from the Nemanjic dynasty.
>>534843321That one, yes? Omer Pasha Latas was a Serb called Mihajlo.
>>534842786Turkey didn't do anything in the 90s, they whined, 'uncle Franjo, save the poor Muslims! Heljp, đenosajd!' (after srebrenica).Turkey cannot interfere here, and they cannot send weapons or anything to a Muslims because Bosnia is surrounded only by Croats and Serbs. Do you understand the fear they are in? Last year, when the situation with Dodik escalated, Muslims literally started fleeing RS. Now imagine that Croatia (or Serbia, or these together) sends an army. Well, the war would be over in 3 days, everyone would flee. Libtards are over, huntington's clash of civilizations is coming. Not only Bosnian, all Muslims will be deported at some point. Everything leads to that.
>>534843446>The Bosnian uprisingMićo Latas put an end to that. Serbs just cant stop winning against "dobri bošnjani" lmao
>>534843508That one was just local nobles fighting for more power, not independence from the Ottoman Empire, which is a contrast from the Serbs in Herzegovina, who chose not to convert unlike you retards. You literally became Turks. You weren't fighting to be different from them, it was just the nobles wanting more for themselves, and their armies having to do what they're told. This is completely different to every other non-Muslim Balkan "people"
>>534843494>Serbian princessThis one ?
>>534843545They do, they literally DONATE them weapons. They don't sell them weapons, they give them for free.>Turkey has significantly strengthened military cooperation with Bosnia and Herzegovina in 2025, providing advanced equipment and training to enhance the Balkan nation's defense capabilities. Key aid includes donated Bayraktar TB2 drones, Kirpi II armored vehicles, and anti-drone systems, marking a strategic effort to modernize Bosnian forces.
>>534843704>>534843545https://youtu.be/GW6GSa14xXI
>>534843704OS BiH is structured in such a way that it is impossible for one side to get something out of proportion. And the state of that "army" is abysmal, they literally don't have uniforms. It is by design of course. So even if Turks donated something its is irrelevant. What you need to pay attention to is police force, and Serbs have significantly better police force than anyone else in Bosnia.
>>534843545I agree we could still split them easily, hell even each of us independently could do it even while they receive all sorts of aid from Turkey. The issue is that the west wouldn't be on our side currently, but that can change. However, the most likely outcome is simply peaceful secession, like I said. Everyone knows at this point that the country can't function like this while also being a democracy, when it has 3 different ethnic group with each having their representatives in the government. Nothing gets done, nothing works. Either they let us secede, or they try to genocide or ethnically cleanse us, which they are not able to do. So, peaceful secession it is. Another nice thing is that we have a matching air force, we have both ordered 12 Rafale jets from France. It will be very easy to shit on them. I hope your idea becomes a reality, I would live to see this region without Islam, I just don't see it happening.
>>534843495>>534843494You do realize that dynasty was extinct, yes? The one from that woman. His mother was a Croatian noble and his father was a Bosnian noble. Tvrtko was at best a fraction of a Serb(not a low fraction, but definitely more Croatian than Serb and definitely Bosnian) because, shockingly, nobility of neighboring lands intermarried. The entire dynasty is Bosnian, but they have Croatian and Serbian genes due to noble marriages. He used a part of his ancestral lineage to lay claim to a neighboring people and land. It's literally the most common thing done in that era.
>>534843938I know, I'm not saying they're a threat, just that they do have allies, mainly Turkey and the rest of Islamic world. Iran was helping them in the past, they would probably do so again. In reality, even Republika Srpska Krajina would be able to deal with them militarily, let alone Serbia, or Serbia and Croatia combined. I'm not saying they're a threat, but they do have allies
>>534844041Please read something and shut the fuck up. Pick up a book. Read nigger, read. (you won't get the reference)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tvrtko_I_of_Bosnia#Family_tree
>>534843992>hell even each of us independently could do it even while they receive all sorts of aid from Turkey.How did it work the last time
>>534844069Even in the 90's they wouldn't have gotten shit if Croats didn't let them have it, and seeing how much they hate each other now I don't think they would be doing that again.
>>534844216Check the map and casualties and report. Last I checked, Republika Srpska is 49% of Bosnia. That was VRS (Army of Republika Srpska) with military aid from Belgrade, not the Serbian army, btw. But what is your point even, they don't even have an army, primarily because they are a dysfunctional multi-ethnic state.
>>534842872Croatia and Serbia will never go to war again because there is no reason for that. They recognized Croatia. We recognized RS. There are no more Serbs in Croatia. They have the experience of the last war when they sent everything they had to Vukovar, which was supposed to be just the first stop to Zagreb, and they failed. Then they could do it because Croatia had neither weapons nor an army, and there were almost 700k Serbs in Croatia. Today it is different. An invasion of Croatia from Serbia in these circumstances is militarily almost impossible because we are separated by the Danube and an impassable narrow passage through the Spačva Forests, which is also a plain and swampy terrain. We would have them in the palm of our hands. And that is 300 kilometers from Zagreb. It's over.
>>534844240Yea, but it's fun arguing with Muslims online. They backstabbed Croats in the end too
>>534843545>Huntington's clash of civilizationsOh that will come, but it's going to be the rounded cross versus the square cross and it's already being prepared in Ukraine. The Serbs will go for the Knin and Krajina payback once the Bosnian carcass is spent, but it'll be your problem. There's a reason they don't take us seriously because they know we won't do shit. It's not like Serbia is arming up for us who have toothpicks and meat on a grill.
>>534844240Yea, but it's fun arguing with Muslims online. They live in their own world, high on propaganda whose supply is drying up. They backstabbed Croats in the end too
>>534844404No one will go for anything in Croatia. We even have the same air force for the ease of operations together.
>>534829142call yourselves whatever, just keep the Slovenian femboys safe until my vacation
>>534844129At least I approve of the Boondocks taste in comedy.
>>534844404All of Serbia's defense spending points at a war in Bosnia, not anywhere else. The air defense systems we bought are there in case the UN tries to bomb us, the Rafales we ordered match the Croatian air force identically, the drones we purchased from Israel are to counter the drones Muslims received from Turkey... But there won't even be a war, if Dodik decides to secede and he has the backing of just Trump, who recently removed sanctions on him, and who was visited by Trump's son, then that's it, the end of story. You don't have the military to do anything. You can't even arrest him when he is in Sarajevo.
>>534844509But can you answer just this question: why do you want Bosnia in its current form, where you are stuck in a country where you can't even have the majority in your own parliament, where you only control 25% of the territory and where its basically impossible to progress because of said ethnic issues in democracy? You can't do anything, when you are only 39% of your country, and the Serbs are 33% and control 49% of it, and with Croats the overwhelming majority and both hate you? Why do you want to live in a new Yugoslavia?
>>534844301>But what is your point evenMy point is that you are a retarded nigger living in a retarded nigger state for niggers and your main wish is another war. Given that you are a nigger that's expected but your current state of niggerhood is a result of wars so I guess you want another nigger war to further nigger yourself because you want your situation to be even more niggerish since being a turbo nigger isn't enough so you want to upgrade to mega nigger and then I guess you can become a giga nigger if you keep niggering long and hard enough.If your people had a desire to channel that nigger energy into being a wealthy, prosperous, free society, imagine the results. But instead you want to niggermax and become the niggerest niggers of niggerworld.Nigger
>>534844404Boomers have unfortunately bought into Jewish propaganda, but all the young people in Europe vote for parties like AfD. People simply see where this is going with Muslims, no one wants to live under Sharia law and there will be conflict. Serbs cannot attack Croatia, I have already explained how. And Serbs care more about Kosovo, they simply hate Albanians more than us. Croatia is money they won and lost at poker, but they see Kosovo as their great-grandfather's house where gypsies moved in. Serbs subconsciously know that Croatia is a foreign country and probably have some fear because of everything from the past, but they see Kosovo as something that was unjustly taken from them and Albanians as subhuman genetic waste. Serbs can live without Knin because it was never theirs, but Serbs without the Kosovo myth are not a nation but a religious group or even 'Orthodox Croats'.
>>534844454>we have the same airforce for interoperabilityAs opposed to having a wildly different one in the 90s? Did Serbia buy Chinese missiles to destroy one of our burekdzinica or something.
>>534844837Are all the muslims this retarded and incapable of forming a structured sentence and presenting a single argument? And why are 50% of you on meme-flags, is it the rapefugees living in other countries?
>>534844904He is 2nd gen diaspora most likely.
>>534844904>is it the rapefugees living in other countriesI wish I didn't live in the cursed nigger Balkans, I really do
>>534844837I don't want a war by the way, I already said there won't be one most likely. There isn't a need for one, your state is like Yugoslavia, it's dysfunctional and cannot last. But I would gladly sign up to kill Muslims. You deserve it for all the fucked up shit you did. You deserve it too, you chose to have that as the main part of your identity, you think of yourselves as Muslims first, South Slavs second. Retarded liberals thought you were just like any other people, while ignoring the toxic ideology you are bred into. Then they saw the same shit in their own countries, and now they might finally understand. It's all fun and jokes when you terrorize someone, burn shit down and kill people at a wedding, until it's happening in the west itself.
>>534843545why are there still muslims and mosques in the balkans anyway? turks are gone, you dont have to larp with that foriegn bullshit for good jobs anymore
>>534845076Read anything by Izetbegovic (the leader of Bosniaks), I beg you. You will finally understand it's not something that leaves you, it's something you have to impose on other people too.
>>534844728Nobody asks me what I want and quite frankly nobody asks you either. If RS seceded tomorrow, I couldn't give less of a shit. In fact, I could just get a Serbian citizenship then and go to Cyprus and enjoy the Summer there.
>>534845043Cope kauri, we will have the first wedding night right again SOONTick tock, Slav(e), your time is up.You will pay for Khamenei with your daughter's virginity BTC Kara Boga motherfuckerĆele Kula electric boogaloo 2 yee hawPrepare your anuses, we'll bring stakes
>>534844893The only thing in the world that Croats and Serbs agree on is Bosnia. Think about it.
>>534844872Zoomers, some millennials and Gen A will elect lesbians in the hopes of fixing their countries and the boomers can't even keep up, yes.
>>534845178The secession of RS would finally present a non-hypocritical compromise by the West to Serbs, where Serbs let go off Kosovo and get their territories in Bosnia, and finally move on from what was an absolute dismantlement of a state that 33% of population gave their life for in just a single war. It affects me because, the Kosovo and Bosnia issue are the only reason Serbia fell behind its poorer neighbors like Bulgaria or Romania (at the time of dissolution of Yugoslavia), and because this hypocritical, imposing requirements for Serbia to join the EU are something majority of people won't accept here, because it's simply too hypocritical. If RS is allowed to secede, then maybe this region can finally start to heal, because there will be a compromise proposal that doesn't hypocritically put all the burden on Serbia. So, yes it does affect me and I am asked, I am asked in the polls, and I will one day be asked on the referendum, much like you.
>>534845243Oh you're Albanian, imagine my surprise that you're behind a meme-flag.
>>534845398How did you know ?I'm from Kosovo kek, I have a country now
>>534845043>fucked up shit you didYou did so much shit that an anti commie, fresh out of the Cold War West said fuck these guys and bombed you. Serbian militaries behaved like an Orthodox ISIS in the 90s. Maybe you can enlighten our Croat anon here about how innocent it all was, I'm sure he'll agree.
>>534845480You all type like retards.
>>534845509We committed a genocide in Srebrenica, but you were literally killing innocent people at a wedding, burning churches down, and inviting literal ISIS fighters to fight for you before any of that happened.
>>534845509Also soldiers taking off their uniforms when encircled and larping as civilians, grooming young kids (16 onwards) to fight like you do everywhere else. Mladic was outnumbered and had to do what he had to do, you were not innocent.
>>534845356No, you're not asked. The only thing you might be asked is whether you're fit for military duty, that is it. But if you think anybody running your country genuinely cares about that larp of yours, then feel free to keep believing it.
>>534845512I live in a big house I took from SerbsThey never made it, I think they were organ donors if you catch my drift
>>534845649I will be asked on a referendum, that's how it works. That's how Montenegro got it's independence by 0.5% in favor, while also having like 60 thousands of Albanians, Bosniaks and Croats living there, without whom they would not have voted for independence (their population is only, what, 500000?, and they passed it by 0.5%). So the reasons for ethnic cleansing (sending you on a bus somewhere else) were sound decisions. If you didn't groom kids to fight and have your soldiers remove uniforms and dress like citizens when encircled, then maybe there would be less tragedies.
>>534845564Do you now want to statistically compare who destroyed more religious objects and where? Which group preserved more of the other groups' religious buildings? You also had Russian volunteers coming here to kill people, no less brutal than the mujahideen and the mujahideen were certainly no more brutal than chetniks, which is funny because the only two groups to chop geads off, slit throats and rape were extremists from the Middle East and Serb chetniks.
>>534845076The Turks occupied some parts of Croatia for 150 years, but when that area was liberated, all the Turks were killed and ethnically cleansed, and all the mosques were demolished. Croatia was without a mosque for 300 years, until the communists allowed Muslim colonists in a village in eastern Croatia to build a mosque. Austria is to blame for the existence of Bosnia. If they had given the Croats a free hand, they would have been deported to Turkey. However, without Muslims, the Serbs would be the absolute majority in Bosnia (the Croats left Bosnia for centuries, so there are too few of them left), and if they returned Bosnia to Croatia, it would simply be too much power for the Croats. Because of this, they decided to try to create a 'Bosniak nation' from all 3 nations, which all 3 nations refused, including Muslims who identified with the ummah and turks. The communists ruined the whole thing because they recognized them as a nation and built more mosques in 45 years than the Turks did in 450.
>>534834466No one is stopping you from living in airbnbs which are usually similar or less in price to renting anyway.Europe is a playground for Americans. Especially eastern europe and the balkans.Its so fucking cheap there its cheaper than any asian shithole or japan. Much cheaper.
>>534845853Your own leader's works disprove everything you just said. I recommend that you read his works. You realize your own leader wanted a war, that your secession was illegal because you didn't have the approval of all 3 ethnic groups, which you by law needed to have, and that's what sparked the war within your borders (besides a Bosniak killing a father at a wedding for no reason). The Serbian leader, Karadzic, literally warned you that this will happen, and you didn't care, your leader didn't care and the population didn't care.
>>534845996I asked you specifically about statistics about who acted more like a barbarian and you move goalposts. Who had the most rape camps, concentration camps, killed more civilians, destroyed more religious objects, put unarmed people to the knife and gun? It's all well documented and is part of the reason why Serbs got many, many times more years for war crimes than Croats and Bosnians combined. Once again, freah out if the Cold War, commie hating courts judged you, not some DEI migration loving socialists as some of you pretend is the case.
>>534846261We had more concentration camps of course, because you were not able to have any, not because you didn't want to. We killed more civilians, but only after decades (and really centuries if you go deeper into the Ottoman Empire), and those numbers are highly inflated because like I said, your soldiers were larping as civilians when encircled, and you had teenagers fighting your wars. The only difference is that, you were not able to do anything of such scale as what Mladic was doing, the intention of much greater things were there as illustrated in your leader's works and Serbs didn't want this to happen, you were warned by the leader of Srpska Krajina and you laughed at him while worshiping someone who advocated for ethnic cleansing of Christians in his book, and who was the leader of your entire movement and the representative of your ethnic group in the state. If you compare who did what to whom, before the war kicked off, it was 99% Muslims doing shit to Catholics and Christians, because they wanted that entire territory which simply was never theirs, for themselves, despite living in 25% of it.
>>534845881The only ones identifying us with Turjs are our neighbors because>my middle eastern religion is better than your middle eastern religionYou have no problem with Rome bringing the cross with the sword, but you have a problem with leftover crescents. It's jyst ignorance, but that's fine. Also communists destroyed mosques, they rebuilt only a few. Croatia built the most mosques here since the Ottomans lol from NDH to modern-day.
>>534846261>reason why Serbs got many, many times more years for war crimes than Croats and Bosnians combinedCroats genocided 300000 Serbs, according to official numbers. Srebrenica genocide was 8000, are you saying this is reasonable and a logically based punishment, or is it simply that propaganda works as it sees fit, and that your propaganda is drying up and soon you won't exist?
>>534846599>>my middle eastern religion is better than your middle eastern religionThat's the entire book by your leader, and the mindset behind all the terror you were doing even during Yugoslavia to Christians. Not to mention you sided with Nazis against Serbs, or do we not speak about that?
>>534846599Christianity is a peaceful religion, we could coexist with other religions like Buddhism, but never Islam because of your own actions. You do the same shit in Sweden, Germany, Israel and everywhere else nowadays.
>>534846537>you were not able to have any>but you wanted! It's called being a human and not doing what Serb paramilitaries and militaries did.
>>534846788Human terrorists who were killing innocents before the war even took off? And of course you wanted, it's cited in the book of your leader, who held all the power. The only reason you didn't in such a scale (although you did have them, is because you couldn't.>During the 1992–1995 Bosnian War, all sides operated detention facilities, including camps established by forces loyal to the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina (Bosniaks/Army of BiH) that held Bosnian Serb and Croat civilians and soldiers, such as the Silos camp in Tarčin [5.4]. While the vast majority of camps and victims involved Serb-run, and later Croat-run, sites designed to ethnically cleanse Bosniaks, some Bosniak-operated facilities, including Silos, were sites of torture, abuse, and unlawful detention [5.4, 5.13].
>>534846661And they were punished for it after WW2, were they not?
>>534846788To have a concentration camp, you first need to encircle a territory of other people, you were not able to do such a thing.
>>534846903No, they were not. They integrated into Yugoslavia with no sanctions, economic penalties or lost territories. They even got Istria through Yugoslavia, if anything they got territory from it.
>>534846903Likewise, you were not punished either.
>>534846717I nor any of the people in the 90s nor anyone now sided with the nazis. This is your problem, you're unable to allign things based on time and this is precisely why I said earlier that you'll be killing eachother one or two generations later after the Bosnian whalefall is over.
>>534847055The shit in Yugoslavia started kicking off in the 80s, less than 40 years after all the shit you retards did to Serbs lmao. That's not even for 2 generations to grow up without experiencing it first-hand, via their grandparents. And then you spat on the wounds of all the lives lost, which was literally 1/3 people or 1/2 males, for a territory that was majority Serb, that you were never the majority of, while spouting insane Islamic rhetoric less than 4 decades after siding with Nazis... You deserve everything you got, in fact the numbers are not even, even.
>>534847055>nor any of the people in the 90sWrong by the way, same generation was still alive.
Bosniaks could very very very easily murder and rape the entirety of Croatia and Serbia if they were broken of their Turkish mindrape spell and fully leaned into their Handžar/Goth roots . Sad that these white people are larping as Arabs, it will get them nowhere, funny part is that their enemies push this ideology to keep them weak.
>>534846773Christianity is everything but peaceful. Did it spread peacefully to the Americas? Did it spread peacefully through Rome? Did it spread peacefully through inquisitions upon its own people? I don't pretend that Islam spread peacefully, but to pretend Christianity is peaceful is a joke. Sure, the Western man that is barely socioculturally Christian at this point is peaceful. It's not hard to be peaceful after a millennium of killing and converting almost every tribe in Europe through the sword. Hell, look at Ukraine and how peaceful Orthodox people are one to another. This larp about peace and restraint is a fairly recent phenomenon that boomers were raised into.
>>534831946I would say its different. Albanians are nationalist tribal poeple as in a catolic albanian is better to them than muslim foreighner. They follow their own weird tribal laws.Kosovo I heard is a bigger shithole although the ones that work here dont really act islamic they also have albanian names instead of arab names. Never met albanian named muhamed.As for Bosnians they are slavs and act like it but since their etnicity is basically muslim slav they are more vocal about islam consider arabs and turks friends etc. Some are commies but a good chunk of population worships arabs and you can clearly see it. There is no logical reason for it but it just is. Islam even moderate one erases your identity.
>>534847461Tenets of Christianity are peaceful and non-imperialist, non-expansionalist and generally very isolationist and forgiving. The fact that some Christian countries went on to conquer regions and spread it by force, has nothing to do with the tenets of the religion itself. While your tenets are the opposite of that. Your presence in the Balkans is, in itself, the result of Muslim tenets and imperialism, and so is your presence in Spain, Portugal and North Africa.
>>534846857Now compare the numbers. That's the difference between humans and inhumans. Once again, all of this was scrutinized by anti commie Cold War governments in the West that only disliked Muslims more than commies.
>>534847591Especially the tenets of Orthodoxy
>>534846979Did chetniks integrate into society? Or should they all have been killed then? Let me guess, they were freedom fighters?
>>534847613You are a very stupid person. I already addressed the disparity in the numbers, it was because you were unable to. But if you look at it through a large enough of a time period, one that includes 1940s and the Ottoman empire, the numbers would not even come close, as the genocide in Srebrenica was still only 8000, and included soldiers larping as civilians and fighting age "kids" who were either in training or actively fighting, so the real number is even lower.
>>534845881There was also huge pressure by british and french subhumans to prevent austrohungary from taking ottoman lands. They were muslim allies trough all of history. There was also fear by fully adding bosnia that slavs become even bigger majoroty in empire.
>>534829222NATO is the gayest thing we’ve ever been a part of, counting the 60s
>>534829142Croatia is pretty based, too bad their neighbors all suck.
>>534847024>youMy families have given two prvoborci to fight those killing innocent Serbs, so there's nothing to punish me for. And when the war finished they disowned the communist party for allowing rehabilitation of war criminals.
>>534847666Chetniks were originally fighting for the royal family, and only after the Allies chose Partisans did that change. But still, ratio wise, and government wise, Serbs were the most represented group in the Partisans, and the only group whose government refused the German ultimatum, thus also being the only one that was genocided, and yes by Bosniaks too.
>>534846599>You have no problem with Rome bringing the cross with the swordWe invaded roman lands its the least we could do. Also romans are fucking europeans your ansestors shared culture with rome even if they are 100% slavic not with ducking desert semites that are worst poeple on planet.I would rather be a vudu congo nigger than an arab muslim. That religion despite being antieuropean is antihuman. No art no music no female body no alcohol no curiosity just dirt slavery and izzat.
Croatian women are whores, you can lead them on with marriage, they will travel halfway across the world to see you, you can stand them up...and this is the best part, they will still BEG for your ANGLO SEED.Croatian men are cucks.
>>534831140>Kosovo still exists
>>534846599You just don't understand. In the 6th century, Croats were illiterate barbarians who lived in wooden houses. Suddenly, they moved to an area of superior civilization among the Romans, to a country that was located between the two largest cities in the world. They accepted Christianity because it was the religion of a superior civilization, just as Christianity was accepted by the Germans, the English or later the Indians in America. Croats still remained Croats, as we are today. If I were not a Christian, I would still be a Croat because our name is older than Catholicism, it does not define us. Now compare that to Islam. Your ancestor agreed to become a Muslim because he paid less tax and because his children were not taken into slavery, and together with the occupier, he attacked and killed his neighbors and relatives. He left the Croatian (or Serbian) identity and became a quisling, a traitor. Today, you consider those people who beheaded the last Bosnian king as brothers. What is it? Schizophrenia and mental illness. I don't want to insult you and I don't know you, but the only way for you to become a human is to renounce Islam, to find out what religion your ancestor/patient zero was, who got infected with Islam, and to change your name and surname accordingly. You can be Hrvoje Horvat or Nemanja Srbljanovic, that's the only way to salvation.
>>534846661>Croats genocided 300000 Serbs, according to official numbers. Official numbers beefed up so Tito can take reparations from germany. I wish we killed that many of you you would practically worship us.
>>534847729You addressed it like a subhuman, that's the problem. In your mind, the only reason others don't do fucked up shit that you would do is because they can't. You're essentially a nigger with a sideway glock. It's nigger tier thinking.
>>534847821>government refusedYou refused it by letting 6 or 7 Germans take your capital city. That's how much you refused. Everyone can look this up by the way, handful of German soldiers took the Serbian capitak in WW2. That's how much they resisted. The Nazis themselves couldn't believe it lol
I was born into a Bošnjak household and I'd agree with everything you said until the end. I hate orthoniggers almost as much as I hate Jews and sandniggers. Croats are Jew-adjacent and have no real identity since they got everything from hungarians and Italians, along with it being icon worship with papacy. Bosniaks need to maintain their own identity and convert to Protestants, that way we can rid ourselves of the Turkish curse and still be distinct from croats and serbs
>>534848068They had some bogumil christian sect that church hated. He can be that. Their pope was called Djed. I would literaly do that as bosnian. Or worship pagan gods or be ateist.
>>534848102No, it's literally me having read what your leader wrote in his books, and having read what you were doing even past WW2 during the time of Yugoslavia to Christians. It's funny that you are such an illiterate moron that you haven't even read anything by Izetbegovic, which is why I have to tell you that the only reason you were not doing it in such a large number is because you were incapable of it, because the prerequisite for ethnic cleansing is encircling a territory and capturing the civilians. Your great Islamic leader proposed doing those same things before the war even began, and started the war despite the warnings from the Serb leader within Bosnia. He was even arrested for inciting Muslims to commit violence against Christians during Yugoslavia while Tito was alive, and you were literally killing innocent Christians (like the murder of a man at his daughter's wedding for no reason). You did those things in the past, namely during WW2, but even during the Ottoman empire, and you did them during the Yugo wars too, which is where you move the goal post to "it wasn't as large as yours", when the only reason it wasn't is because you were not able to, militarily. Your leader wanted it, you have done it in the past, and you have done the same thing at a smaller scale in the same war. But you're a moron, and this is becoming circular, where you will just repeat the same phrases over and over until you convince yourself the existence of Bosnia within its current borders are justified or functional, while you can't even pass a single thing in the parliament because you are not even the majority in your country, and because you only control 1/4th of the territory. You will inevitably end up with Croats and Serbs seceding, and you will have to eat all the feces you shat out.
>>534848286It was a proto Christian sect yes, renounced wordly riches and so on. I don't deny the Krstjanin ancestry. The problem is these ancestors were persecuted by the Vatican and left to fall to the Ottomans.
>>534846979You equate Croats with Germans. All Germans were in the Wehrmacht. Croats had a bloody civil war between them. Tito and the leading communists were Croats. Croats were the most numerous nation in the partisans per capita. At the end of the war, Bleiburg happened. Those responsible for crimes against Serbs, and even some innocent civilians, were killed. Chetniks killed tens of thousands of Croats and Muslims in WW2, take that into account. Also, who would you give Istria to when Istria had a majority Croatian population even in Mussolini's time? Well, the Istrian Croats themselves are the first anti-fascists in the world, because they were the first to be attacked by fascist Italy. Together with the Slovenians, they founded the TIGR organization, which liquidated over 100 fascist officials in the 1920s.
>>534848275>Croats are Jew-adjacent and have no real identity since they got everything from hungarians and ItaliansKek what did we get from hungarians.Out of all ex yu nations ouridentity is rhe most documented one trough history. Even the turks have records on croats and croatian language.
>>534848515You dont have to love vatican if it was not good toward you. Chech republic had similar bogumil purge and they hate church .
>>534848286Joj dokle cete pusiti meme o bogumilima, ljudi moji. Pa bogumil nije nacionalnost niti je bogumila bilo, mala minorna sekta.
>>534848520>wehrmachtNo one is talking abotu Wehrmacht. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1ehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Serbs_in_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia>IstriaIt was Italian land, yes not their majority, but you wouldn't have gotten if it were not for Yugoslavia, they were a state with 40x your population.>highest ethnicity per capitaNot true, you only started joining towards the end too. And there wasn't a civil war in Croatia, lmao, it was dominated by ustase, the only civil war would end up between Partisans and Ustase, but that was much later on. The Yugoslav Partisans, the largest anti-fascist resistance movement in occupied Europe during World War II, were a complex, multi-ethnic force that shifted in composition over the course of the war. While starting largely as a Serbian-dominated uprising, the movement (led by the Communist Party of Yugoslavia, or KPJ) successfully, over time, incorporated significant numbers from all of Yugoslavia's ethnic groups, emphasizing "brotherhood and unity".
>>534848458>No, it's literally me having read what your leader wrote in his books, and having read what you were doing even past WW2 during the time of Yugoslavia to ChristiansAre you seriously saying that Muslims in communist Yugoslavia did something to Christians? It requires special drugs to think this. Until 1974 communism forbade us to even have an ethnicity. It was the most psy oped, worked-to-the-bone group in all of Yugoslavia. Serbs and Croats were running the whole gig and the government was all about balancing the two, although Serbs had much more power than Croats in communism. The Slovenes were the intellectual seethers profiting and keeping it low.
>>534848275Meant for >>534848068
>>534848749You were doing petty terrorism, Tito was tough on Muslim nationalism, but so was he on Serbian and Croatian too. Yes, they were not favorable conditions for you, but again, do we go back to the Ottoman empire and talk about favorable conditions? >Establishment of "Young Muslims" (Mladi Muslimani) in the 1940s: While mainly active before and immediately after WWII, this group's ideological influence persisted, leading to arrests by Communist authorities throughout the 1940s and 1950s for clandestine activities.Opposition to the 1974 Constitution: Some Muslim intellectuals and nationalist figures expressed dissent against the Communist-defined framework of the "Muslim" nationality, though they generally operated within the system or in quiet opposition.1978 "Sarajevo Process": Security forces monitored and occasionally suppressed individuals suspected of promoting pan-Islamism or trying to link Bosnian Muslim identity with foreign Islamic movements.The 1983 Trial of Alija Izetbegović: Although this trial occurred in 1983, shortly after Tito's death (1980), the indictment alleged that the accused had been conducting clandestine activities, including distributing the "Islamic Declaration," during the latter years of Tito's rule.
>>534848669Prije dolaska turaka, oficijelna religija je bila Katolicanstvo, ali je prakticirano Krstjanstvo koje nije priznavalo i implementiralo odluke Nicejskog sabora, zbog cega je 1230ih na Bosnu pokrenut krizarski rat, vise od 200 godina prije nego sto su dosli turci. I taj rat je bio neuspjesan. Cak stavise, iskoristen je napad mongola na krizare za udar na Dalmaciju. Tako da u Bosni nije bila mala sekta niti je to neka neistina koja se nasumicno propagira.
>>534848720Croats had a civil war, Germans didn't. You had Chetniks, Nedic and Ljotic formations, Serbs also committed genocide in WW2. And now, your logic is that only Croats should bear responsibility for WW2, even though Bleiburg happened? Lol.Secondly, Istria was part of Italy for about 20 years. I don't see how it's 'Italian' when Croats were always the majority population there. If we were independent Croatia would still have gotten that territory, just like Czechoslovakia got the Sudetenland, with the difference that in the Sudetenland Germans were the majority.If you're talking about the number of partisans, Serbs are always probably consciously lying that 'Croats joined the partisans after the fall of Italy' which is logical nonsense - Croats joined the partisans precisely to fight against the Italians. Look at the Battle of Sutjeska, over 3000 Croats died. That was before the fall of Italy.
>>534848940The "Young Muslims" didn't do shit after WW2 lol they were all dispersed across the ME after WW2 and in the 70s and 80s their "terrorism" was writing, not bombing or whatever you're trying to pretend it was. They all got jailed for it, unlike your SANU academics who got off wity no issues because Serbs ran SFRJ for the most part, especially the notorious security apparatus.
>>534849336This inevitably comes back to your own identity, which I could truly not care less about. Even if that identity was as you say, and we ignore the ethnicity of your king and so on, why should I care?The land was NEVER at any point in history majority yours, pre ww1 it was majority serb even after centuries of ottoman rule, you never lived in most of it, only like 25% of it, while the rest was populated by Serbs and Croats. And then you come out with your Islamic Declaration and seek the territory of all the Bosnia region, while calling yourself Bosniaks lead by someone who was writing books about the need to remove christians from Bosnia, because, according to him, Muslims cannot live alongside them. Then you ignore the warnings of Serbs in Bosnia, telling you it will ignite a war which you cannot win, while worshipping that same man who is now your leader and going forward with his Islamic declaration, spitting on the wounds of 1 out of 3 Serbs that gave their life for that territory in WW1, and the 1 out of 2 men that gave their lives, which are incomprehensible numbers, ignoring the fact that you were not at any point the majority in it, and that pre world war 1, serbs were, and that you only lived in small enclaves in it, forcing both Croats and Serbs to live with you. And my question is why, why do you want this to exist as a mini Yugoslavia? You can't do anything in it, 33% are Serbs and something like 17% are Croats, while you are only 39%, so only plurality even after WW1 and ottoman rule. You have clear borders now where Serbs live, just let them secede, let Croats secede and you can have your nation and parliament and live in a functional state instead of delaying the inevitable that will happen in 20 or 50 years. But this is too circular, you are a low iq muslim and it's expected of you. You've read nothing, know nothing and will go on in circles trying to fish out an argument that works out in your favor. I'm done. Read something
>>534849677Bosnia can only work if Bosniaks all convert to Protestantism. Once that happens we can kick out all non-bosnians consentually or not, up to them. The future of Bosnia is a game of power, we must preserve and evolve. I don't blame my ancestors for converting to Islam because of the power and status it brought, but being Muslim in the modern world means nothing anymore, all great nations convert out of power and politics. If Bosniaks want to survive and succeed they must adapt and lean heavily into our Christian roots. I've seen my kind breed with Arabs. It's fucking disgusting, we can't let this continue, we need a far right ethno-Bosniak movement. Larping as turks doesn't do anything for us anymore
>>534848770You don't understand Croatian history. Croats and Hungarians had only the person of the king in common and nothing else. Separate parliaments, passports, aristocracy, army, and even a football league/NT. Croatia was a junior partner, not a lackey. The Italians are only close to the Istrians and Dalmatians, but they fought against them en masse in both world wars. Of course, some similarities exist and they are indelible because it's the Mediterranean, all people by the sea live similar lives. You will never be able to break all ties with the Turks as long as you have any kind of 'Bosnian' identity, to do that you have to become a Croat or a Serb, which you are by blood anyway. It's stupid to invent a new nation based on religion in the 21st century. Even if you become a Protestant, you still have to take a Croatian name and start speaking the Croatian language. You can't be a Protestant Bosniak and your name is Mujo Hasanovic. That's a parody. And all 'Bosnian' medieval names are Croatian (Hrvoje, Tvrtko, Mladen...). The thing is simple - you will either be a Croat or you will be some kind of Turk. There is no middle ground.
>>534849423The majority of Serbs were opposed to the nazis at the start, so much so that they threatened to overthrow the royal family once it accepted the German ultimatum, until it was rescinded and shit kicked the fan. You weren't. We had chetniks, but there are 2 important distinctions: they started off as an army fighting for the royal family, they didn't align with the nazis until they had no choice because no supplies from Allies, and by the time they aligned with the nazis they were completely irrelevant number wise, because most of them switched sides to Partizans after the fact. You mentioned per capita, and per capita is exactly why. Our government was not pro-nazi, our population was not, yours was until the very end of the war. You mentioned how you were the most represented group per capita in the Yugoslavs, but that's not true, you're confusing within Croatia's borders and overall Yugoslav borders, because even in Croatia's borders most Yugoslav fighters were, for the first 2-3 years, Serbian, and only then did you become the majority of Partisans in Croatia. So the answer to your question is exactly what you tried to use as your argument at the start: per capita. At the start, Serbs were the only ones against the Nazis, and you were by far the most represented group in the Nazis, per capita, ironically enough considering your initial position. And yes, bleiburg happened but in 1955, and it targeted only USTASE, who killed 300000 beforehand, and CHETNIKS not innocent . It was directed by Tito himself, not Chetniks. It included Serbs and was simply a communist revenge-genocide, not one targeting based on ethnicity, and unlike yours it didn't target innocent children or women, or actual civilians, and was only 10-20% of what you did with Ustase, and only came 5 years later. There is a massive difference in nuance.
>>534836163it’s the Baltics
>>534849336Ti i dalje nisi u stanju shvatiti- sve da su ljudi u srednjem vijeku u bosni bili budisti, oni bi i dalje bili hrvati ili srbi, jer su sami 'bosanci' tek ljudi koji zive pored rijeke bosne, a to je regionalni naziv kao neretljani, posavljaci, podravci ili moravci (i u srbiji i u ceskoj imas moravce, lol). Ti kao musliman poistovjecujes vjeru s narodom pa mislis da ako su hrvati katolici, srbi pravoslavci, da onda nekako bogumili- inace bugarska sekta- mogu biti nesto trece i da su ti oni srodni jer si i ti nesto trece. Ali ne moze tako. Postoje price o doseljenju hrvata i srba u ilirik, ispricao ih je konstantin. Di je prica o doseljenju bosanaca? Pa nema je. Zasto je nema? Jer je logicki nemoguca. Nemoguce je da u juznoj poljskoj u 6 stoljecu zive ljudi koji se zovu po rijeci 1000km juznije koju ce po prvi put ugledati njihovi praunuci za 100 godina. Hrvati nemaju taj problem jer su hrvati i u 6 stoljecu u juznoj poljskoj, a onda kad dodju na podrucje ilirika, taj prostor ce nazvati po sebi.
>>534850000Brother all nationalities, boarders and languages are inherently man-made. If you studied linguistics and history you'd know this. If the Germans went from being mass raped and murdered by the Romans in ancient history to becoming reborn again in WWII there is always hope for Bosnia. That's the beautiful thing, empires come and go like the weather, people convert and change their names and larp as different groups, all is possible. I refuse to larp as a Croat or a Serb, and I refuse to believe that my history is theirs because they say so, you're all dirty revisionist niggers in my book, more closer to a Jew than any western european. If Bosnia and Bosniaks want to prosper be need to follow the path of Germans
>>534836585>t. Alberto Barbosa
>>534833391>The call to prayer shit is annoyingi thought many albanians were becoming christian again
>>534850028Wait, you expect Croats to be against the Germans in 41? Lol. After everything the Serbs did to the Croats (the Serbs beat up 50k Croatian civilians by 1925 alone, killed 2-3 key Croatian intellectuals, and then the murder of Radic and other Croatian politicians happened) it is logical that people sided with the Germans. In '41 alone, the total number of partisans was miserable anyway, under 10k. I don't avoid numbers. I spoke per capita because it's the easiest, because there is a quote from Tito that confirms it, and precisely because you can't manipulate that they weren't Croats but 'from the territory of Croatia', which the Serbs always do. Specifically, look at how many Croats participated and died in Neretva/Sutjeska and it's game over. The total number of dead ethnic Croatian partisans is 30,000. For comparison, if that seems 'little' to you, 10,000 Croatian soldiers died in the last war. 15k if we count Croats from Bosnia. As for the Chetniks, the only difference between them and the Ustase was that the Ustase had a camp and could organize trains, while the Chetniks simply did the same but from village to village. The point of the story - Croats as a collective are not and cannot be responsible for WW2 because Pavelic did not come to power democratically, because a huge number of Croats rebelled against him and because a huge number of Croats died in the anti-fascist war. And with this, I conclude further discussion about this, because I said everything I think, and you draw (or don't) some conclusion.
>>534851106>Wait, you expect Croats to be against the Germans in 41?>There was a civil war in 41> The point of the story - Croats as a collective are not and cannot be responsible for WW2 because Pavelic did not come to power democratically, because a huge number of Croats rebelled against him and because a huge number of Croats died in the anti-fascist warPick one. A lie has no legs.>s (the Serbs beat up 50k Croatian civilians by 1925 alone,>Based on historical records, the claim that 50,000 Croatian civilians were beaten by Serbs by 1925 is not supported by documented historical data from that period.>killed 2-3 key Croatian intellectualsYes, but they were killed for the content of their "intellectual" topics. I'm not gonna excuse it, but are you seriously going to use this as a justification to go on and slaughter 300k people, convert 200k to Croats, and expel even more, while claiming you had no say in it, despite most of your population being pro ustase until the very end, and when you yourselves, as croats, were committing these genocides? Not all Serbs commited Srebrenica in Bosnia either, in fact it wasn't even top-down, it was initiated by Ratko Mladic, who was just a general, and Serbia wasn't even in the war, yet we got penalties for it. You didn't, and it's solely because you were saved with the "brotherhood and unity", while being united into Yugoslavia. You also lost no territory in world war 1, despite being on the enemy side yet again. >While ethnic Croats were not the largest ethnic group overall in Tito’s Partisans for the entire duration of World War II, the role of Croats in the movement grew significantly, particularly in the later stages, and the Croatian region became a vital stronghold for the movement.I can't believe how much you can lie, almost nothing you said is true when I decided to read up on it.
>>534850440I can't help you. Your entire identity is a larp. If you took a Croatian name it wouldn't be a larp, but a return to your roots because your ancestor was either a Croat or a Serb. There was no such thing as a 'Bosnian' people in the Middle Ages, and there isn't one now. When you understand that, and you never will because you refuse to, then you can go to the next level.
>>5348515881. Overall Yugoslav Partisans Composition (1941–1945)>Initial Stages (1941–1942): The movement was predominantly composed of Serbs.>Full War Period: Based on 1977 records, the total Partisan forces throughout the war were approximately \(53.0\%\)>1941–1942: In the beginning, the majority of Partisans in Croatia were actually local Serbs fleeing persecution by the Ustaše (Croatian Nazi-puppet state).>The Shift (1943–1945): Following the collapse of Italy, thousands of Croats joined the Partisans. By late 1944, statistics show that in Croatia, Croats made up \(61\%\) of the fighters, compared to \(28\%\) Serbs.
>>534851780>>Full War Period: Based on 1977 records, the total Partisan forces throughout the war were approximately \(53.0\%\) Serbs and \(18.6\%\) Croats*
>>534829142This. I've been saying it for years.
>>534829142It’s an eternal shame that slavs squatted on the Balkans displacing the native Illyrians. It was gargantuan bad luck from Justinianus plague wiping out most of the natives whilst the invaders had immunity from being swamp creatures. Hopefully greater Albania can be formed one day.
Meanwhile, let's try the pro-nazi version of ethnicities per capita: Ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) — highest per capita.Croats in the NDH apparatus (Ustaše + Home Guard) — large mobilization through a formal Axis satellite state.Some Kosovo Albanian and Bosnian Muslim Axis-linked formations — significant locally, but much smaller populations and shorter-lived formations.>In 1941:The NDH could mobilize hundreds of thousands through the Home Guard and state institutions.The Partisans were initially small and concentrated in certain regions, especially among Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia who were fleeing Ustaše persecution.But this changed substantially over time.By 1943–45:Support for the Partisans among Croats grew dramatically.Disillusionment with Ustaše brutality, German/Italian occupation, conscription, and the military success of the Partisans shifted opinion.
>>534851084No, Christianity means sodomy and mixing with blacks.
>>534851596>Croach telling you your identity is a larp
>>534829142LOL
>>534851588You take sentences out of context and manipulate, classic. Nothing I said contradicts anything. '41 Croats are happy that Germany is destroying Yugoslavia and that a new Croatian state is being formed. Then terror/murders begin, on both sides. This results in the fact that even the Serbs who are targets are not numerous in the partisans and in '41 there is no real war. They just flee into the forests. However, as time goes by, both Croats and Serbs join the partisans. There are still more Serbs than Croats, but there are more of them because they are targets in the NDH: in Serbia itself, where they are not targets, there is actually peace all the time.As for this second quote - you don't have to answer me, answer yourself. What do you think the Serbs would do to anyone if they were treated the way they treated the Croats? You relativize the murders of intellectuals and politicians, and you skipped over the number of people beaten and killed in Croatia itself by Serbian gendarmes. The Serbs literally pissed on the Croats for 20 years and you're crazy if you think that can go without consequences. Imagine if Albanian policemen beat Serbian civilians every day in Serbia. I won't ask you what you would do to them in the next war - I know that. The Serbs created the Ustashas with their iq 80 actions, and since you yourself had Chetniks who killed tens of thousands of civilians, I don't understand why you think you can moralize.My numbers are correct, you can find them all in 2 minutes of Googling.
>>534851977turkish girls love bbc I've seen it firsthandwhile bacha bazi is gayer than anything i've ever seen in the West
>>534851944why? Illyrians had zero culture, just barbaric savagesserbs have epic poems, literature, art, faith, warrior ideology
>>534852321>serbs>cultureNice try serbroach
>>534850204I disagreeThey're quietly making moves all over the Balkans The Baltics may be just a distraction
>>534852201Your numbers are not correct, I googled it for more than 2 minutes and posted what the official numbers from late 1970s that were released to the public are. You were not the majority per capita, you were only the majority per capita in the region and forces within the Croatian border TWO YEARS AFTER the fact, not even being the majority in your own borders for the first 2 years. The official numbers released, while TIto was alive:>Based on 1977 records, the total Partisan forces throughout the war were approximately \(53.0\%\) Serbs and \(18.6\%\) Croats*I did google everything you said, which is why I'm shocked at how easily you lie and how almost nothing you said is true, except for the fact that the initial Kingdom of Serbs, Slovenes and Croats was indeed dominated by Serbs, via the Royal Family and being the majority. BUT Serbs were also the only one fighting on that side in the WW1, the entire Yugoslavia was built upon the death of 1 out of every 3 serbs, or 1 out of every 2 male serbs post WW1. You were included because the intellectual elite of Croatia, Slovenia and Serbia all decided that it would be in the best interest to unite like Italy or Germany did, so that we are not annexed by neighbors again (you by Italy and Hungary, Slovenia by Austria). And the Brits and French welcomed this, because they had an ally in the royal family, Russians also welcomed it, so it was very well perceived. But the details which you said were simply wrong, I bothered to check into it. The only true thing you said is that 3 intellectuals were killed, but they were killed because of the content of their "intellectualism". If the royal family wasn't so greedy, they would've simply formed a Serbian state within the Serb majority areas and left you and Slovenia to deal with neighbors on your own, but they wanted a better title for themself, so here we are.
>>534852486The illyrian larp is stupid and overdone, especially if you look at any genetic map, or consider the situation of the so-called "Illyrian" state of Albania, despite it not suffering much in any of the world wars, and only gaining independence from Ottomans via western powers, not even fighting for it. They have no excuse to be as poor and stupid as they are, they suffered nothing in any of the world wars or balkan wars, they have a great coast that they are unable to develop, and yet they are still savages that are significantly below the balkan average in every metric you can think of. The illyrian population that was native to the Balkans mixed with the Slavs, so much so that the current Slavs in the Balkans have more admixture of the native Balkan populations than any Slavic admixture, If you look at genetic studies of Albanians, you will find they stand out, just like they stand out linguistically, culturally and religiously, like a very obvious black sheep in Europe. Croatia developed its coast, so did Montenegro, so did Greece, so did Italy, what excuse does Albania have, it faced no crisis that these other nations did in the last few centuries?
>>534853647If anything, in some parts of Serbia and Croatia, you'll even find Germanic DNA because Vojvodina and Slavonia had a lot of Germans living there for centuries, until WW2, on top of both the Serbian tribe and Croatian tribe coming from what is nowadays Germany, near Poland.
>>534853647>>534853647Amazing Serb chimpout plus clueless retardation on genetics. Albanians standout because Albanians have the only Illyrian genetics in appreciable numbers compared to anybody else. All proven by actual genetic studies not clueless serboid ranting and dunning Kruger. Serbs are slavs with some Albanian genes, that’s it. You’re foreign savages just admit it already.
>>534854455I need a source on that, can't find anything on it and I don't exactly trust your kind with anything.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Albanians#Genetic_studies>Albanians standout because Albanians have the only Illyrian genetics in appreciable numbers compared to anybody else.And where have those genetics gotten you? Lowest gdp per capita, lowest pisa scores, lowest historical contribution to science, no achievements in sports, undeveloped coast, little to no historical heritage, shortest people by far in all of europe and the list goes on... >All proven by actual genetic studies not clueless serboid ranting and dunning KrugerMy sources are from wikipedia itself, not a random image with god knows what data inserted into it to measure the distance.>Serbs are slavs with some Albanian genesWe are nowhere near you on any genetic map, we are closer to Hungarians than we are to you, which makes sense. The only Albanian genes there might be is in the south, which is indeed a lot of assimilated Albanianiggers and Bulgarianiggers. But you have about the same amount of Slavic admixture, which is perhaps the only human you have in your genes. >Foreign savagesThe initial amount that came to the Balkans from White Serbia (now Sorbia) and White Croatia was so minimal that the Slavic genes only account for like 35%? And I am not sad with this fact, in fact I wish we were even more of a foreign invader, since the Balkans are so fucked up to begin with, especially genetically. If being a foreign invader means having less in common with you, then that's a great thing.
>>534854455I.e.:>E-V13, the most common European sub-clade of E1b1b1a (E-M78) represents about 1/3 of all Albanian men and peaks in Kosovo (~40%). The current distribution of this lineage might be the result of several demographic expansions from the Balkans, such as that associated with the Balkan Bronze Age, and more recently, during the Roman era with the so-called "rise of Illyrian soldiery".[273][274][275][276][277] The peak of the haplogroup in Kosovo, however, has been attributed to genetic drift.[274]>Haplogroup E-V13 is the only lineage that reaches the highest frequencies out of Africa. In fact, it represents about 85% of the European E-M78 chromosomes with a clinal pattern of frequency distribution from the southern Balkan peninsula (19.6%) to western Europe (2.5%). The same haplogroup is also present at lower frequencies in Anatolia (3.8%), the Near East (2.0%), and the Caucasus (1.8%). In Africa, haplogroup E-V13 is rare, being observed only in northern Africa at a low frequency (0.9%).
>>534854880More low iq chimpout. My source is Antonio et al 2019 using ancient Roman dna with modern genetic calculators. If Serbs are native they would be very related to pre republican romans. Serbs are not native, you are foreigners larping. >I don’t have dunning Kruger>my sources are WikipediaAs usual from low iq slavoid that should have been killed 1500 years ago but unfortunately we live in demon world.
>>534854455>E-M78, like its parent clade E-V68, is thought to have an African origin. Based on genetic STR variance data, Cruciani et al. (2007) suggests that this subclade originated in "Northeastern Africa", which in the study refers specifically to the region of Egypt and Libya.[6]
>>534855026You’re a gypsy. E-V13 has been in the Balkans far longer than your precious slavshit I2a-“din”. Loads of proofs on that but you suffer from dunning Kruger and are a rootless slav squatter
>>534855053> Antonio et al 2019 Nothing about it on his papers: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aay6826Even if you used his data for the ancient Romans, what data did you use for Albanians, cause cherry picking or even complete fabrication goes a long way?
>>534855126So if you're so great genetically, why are you an abomination in every way despite having no wars in the last several centuries? Why are you typing to me from Canada?
>>534855158The ancient Roman dna is from Antonio et al and the autosomal dna matches are from genetic calculators. Dunning Kruger serb
>>534855126l2a-"din" isn't Slavic, it's assumed we carried it here from White Serbia and White Croatia, where modern day Sorbs live. R1a is slavic
>>534855186No wars? Serbs savages and several Balkan gypsy tribes invaded Albanian lands in cohesion 110 years ago causing major havoc and destruction.
>>534855237I2a-din is 100% slavshit mediated from pisskraine.
>>534855200>from genetic calculatorsMost of them have you insert your own data, or the other users of the site. In other words, into the trash it goes. I will refer to wikipedia, because it's more trust-worthy than a random Albanian uploading shit to a genetic distance calculator.>A 2001 study that looked at HLA alleles suggested that "Turks, Kurds, Armenians, Iranians, Jews, Lebanese and other (Eastern and Western) Mediterranean groups seem to share a common ancestry" and that historical populations such as Anatolian Hittite and Hurrian groups (older than 2000 B.C.) "may have given rise to present‐day Kurdish, Armenian and Turkish populations."[3] A 2004 study that looked at 11 human‐specific Alu insertion polymorphisms among Aromanians, Macedonians, Albanians, Romanians, Greeks, and Turks, suggested a common ancestry for these populations.[36]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Turkish_people#Haplogroup_distributions
>>534855373>into the trash>posting ancient debunked genetic studies as a responseNo nigger, Albanian modern dna being more closely related to Iron Age Romans is a fact of life and Serbs being very much unrelated is also a fact. Dunning Kruger posts by a chimp.
>>534855254Stop using gypsy, when you have a 100000 of them in Albania. 110 years ago were the Balkan wars, I assume that's what you are referring to? Us, Greeks and Bulgarians were fighting against the Ottomans, while you did nothing. We didn't loot or do anything, if anything, you got your independence after centuries due to us alone, but you didn't really mind being under the Ottomans anyway, did you? But you never answer my question, if you're so great genetically, why are you such a black hole? Even if we did raid you and whatever, you suffered nothing in world war 1, world war 2, or the balkan wars (except for apparent raiding)? Is someone raiding you once enough to keep you in the stone age forever? We lost 1/3 of our population in WW1, bombed with damages to our industries worth 40 to 100 billion euros just 20 years ago, and yet you are still a shithole even in the context of Balkans, have always been a shithole with no heritage, and will probably remain that way. Again, why are you typing to me from Canada? Rapefugee from Kosovo?
>>534855479You can screech about us being invaders here, I don't mind, in fact I take it as a compliment, I'd rather be a chad invader of the forsaken, barren Balkans than an actual native.I curse the day they decided to move here, we would've been better where Sorbs are now, than where we are, surrounded by you retarded muslims.
>>534855532What gypo? Are you suggesting savage Serb niggers didn’t absolutely nothing during those wars and you wuz innocents? Serbs needed several nations to bring down the Albanian man. Why is Serbia barely richer than Albania today? Your dunning Kruger posts reveal a low iq retard that quotes Wikipedia lines of old incorrect information. Here’s something new. How come Serbs don’t have these Illyrian genes but Albanians do?Lazaridis et al. (2022) examined these 18 samples from the Bronze Age Cetina Valley. Out of 10 males whose Y-DNA was successfully extracted, 9 belonged to haplogroup J2b (mainly J-L283 subclades) and 1 to haplogroup R-Z2118.
>>534855650Yes you should go back to jewkraine and practice your ancient cultural tradition of dedovschina
>>534855280Ukrainians are predominantly R1A, man... >>534855655>Are you suggesting savage Serb niggers didn’t absolutely nothing during those wars and you wuz innocents?I didn't say that. I'm saying you suffered nothing in any of those wars, you have no reason to be as backwards as you are.>schizopost about illyrians againI really don't care. I ask again, where have your genetics brought you, despite a favorable environment (no wars, coast...)?>Why is Serbia barely richer than Albania today?The gdp per capita is like almost twice as high, we are landlocked and have recently been bombed, like I said, incurring the damage of 40-100 billion to our industries, we basically went from having 10x your gdp per capita to only 2 because of everything we went through. You, on the other hand, have no reason to be as backwards as you are, but yet you are, you are a shithole even in the context of the Balkans, your PISA scores are literally on the level of African countries. There's a greater difference between us and you, than between us and Germans in PISA. Where are your contributions to science, sports?
>>534855532Albanians gained autonomy months before the first Balkan war where 4 nations that only existed because of Russian intervention, invaded Albanian land simultaneously while the ottomans were fighting a war with Italy. There was no need for that war but these four gypo tribes, totally unrelated to ancient tribes of the past wanted to take land from the genuine natives and could only do so together.
>>534855877>Albania declared its independence from the Ottoman Empire on November 28, 1912. The declaration was proclaimed in Vlorë by Ismail Qemali during the First Balkan War to prevent Albanian territories from being divided among neighboring Balkan states.
>>534855800Stop embarrassing yourself with endless dunning Kruger posts. Albanians have suffered from endless wars by neighbours chimping out and being outnumbered 10 to 1. Serbs are right in the Danube corridor and despite all the EU subsidies and investment Serb gdp per capita is not double that of Albania and Kosovo itself is actually landlocked. Don’t worry, everything will be fine when greater Albania is created.
>>534855915Albanians won autonomy before that. You dunning Kruger niggerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_revolt_of_1912
>>534855877It seems like all you mudslimes have the same fuckery in your brain that's likely some coping mechanism, where you will loop over and over again until you fish out something that reinforces your beliefs. I don't know if it's the lack of intelligence or brainwashing, probably a combination of both. You'll keep screeching about Illyria all day, but you will never answer my question. If you're so great genetically, why have you always been shit in the shittiest region of Europe despite not suffering anything the others have? You will now screech about how, uhm, akshually, Albania is the greatest country in the world, how you were ancient Romans because some Albanian donkey submitted some data on a genetic distance site, how you conquered the world and the conquerors which conquered you were actually just pathetic people, meanwhile you're typing to me from Canada. I don't find it productive to engage in these looped conversations with mudslimes, so off you go
>>534856089I can’t take you seriously since you suffer from dunning Kruger you mentally ill shitskin ape
>>534856149>shitskin>albanianOh, no! Anyway
