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Its crazy how 500 years of tradition jobbed to modern culture at breakneck speed.

Does Sola Scriptura just inevitably lead to people making up their own view that aligns with modern popular culture?
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these threads are spammed by muslims
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Why do you social outcasts keep seething about Martin Luther?
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keyword being "armed with Scripture"
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>>534834315
The Orthodox Churches can't even agree on a lot and just let other national churches do as they please.
But there being sinners within the church isn't suprising. There are Popes burning in hell. The premise is the church as an institution tethering back to the apostles and church fathers is what is ironclad, not the men within it that are just as susceptible to sin as any other regardless of vocation.
>>534834381
They have the bible, so they say, so why did all the protestants become gay or zionist?
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>>534834623
The earliest Christians taught Faith Alone. Who are you to say otherwise? Im sure a midwit slave like you hasn't read any of the Saints.
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>>534834315
I'd rather gays be religious and conservative than marching down the street in leather pants, buttfucking other guys in front of kids
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>>534834188
Southern culture
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>>534834904
What a very jewish dichotomy you have there
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>>534834771
Why are all the churches that teach faith alone and scripture alone gay or zionist, no exceptions.
>>534834920
The traitors to the union were zionists? Wild.
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>>534834992
You're a midwit slave. This is just your outlet to attack the dominant religion of America: Protestant. You're exactly like a subversive kike.
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>>534835140
Harvard's 2023 Cooperative Election Study (CES) says otherwise. Protestantism is dying in the US at a breakneck speed.

Catholic Church: Not Gay by Dogma, Anti-zionist by Dogma
Protestants: Gay by Dogma, Zionist by Dogma

Its a simple choice to make unless you are just an aesthetics-farmer and want to travel 130 miles to the closest Orthodox church in the US.
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>>534835335
You're pathetic and demonic. I have never met a Catholic layman who has read the entire Bible. Midwit slaves like you.
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>>534834188
>Does Sola Scriptura just inevitably lead to people making up their own view that aligns with modern popular culture?
*aligns with their proclivities
in the case of american lowlives, their interpretation aligns with their servile tendencies: they go and serve the people with the most institutional power (thus giving them even more)
though ofc it's important to note all religious institutions today are corrupted
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Orthodoxy is going viral atm. A lot of Protties are discovering Eastern Orthodoxy and realizing it's the one true church founded by Christ.

Jay Dyer is also responsible for bringing a lot of Americans to Orthodoxy. People want something that hasn't been changed, doesn't need to reinvent the wheel, the pure ancient faith.

Orthodoxy survived the Roman schismatics, survived against Islam, survived against Communism, and is now surviving against clown world.
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>>534835649
Jay Dyer was a Calvinist for many years as an adult. That proves he's truly stupid. Now he finally took a shower and cut his hair, but he still acts like a 13 year old. The guy is almost 50 years old. It's too pathetic.
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>>534834188
>Man writes 'The Jew and their Lies'
>His church is infiltrated and destroyed by jews
Weird.
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>>534834188
No hierarchy that punishes faggotry, etc, because religon is too fragmented.

Wherever Catholic and Prot coexisted, religous authority takes a fat shit (how is this motherfucker the supreme rep of God, hes not even undisputed head church douche in this kingdom lmao). Jews, gypsy, witch, faggots, all undesirable take advantage. Slowly brakes down morals via subversion. Creates enough accepted gray area for wretches to work in.

Protestantism wasnt inherently faggy- the decision to just shatter in schism and all the war and death it caused so people said fuck that shit, that weakened Christianity so much this ugly shit cropped up.

Needed to be a death match. Luther should have just tried being German Black pope, kill off the Italian faggot families that were the issue. Catholism need a lot of the reforms. The schism was poison, and Calvin's faggot ass along with Henry the Cuck in England taking advantage just doomed the thing.
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>it's another episode of uneducated burger confuses protestantism and lutheranism with american evangelicalism
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>>534835790
He managed to score a genuine tradwife though. He won.
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>>534835444
I've never met a protestant pastor who wasn't LGBTQIA Affirming by dogma or a vehement zionist.
I've read the bible plenty, not sure why you're acting like I'm lacking in literacy when your denominations are all openly practicing sin as dogma. You can't address that ALL of protestantism has become modern, woke, gay, zionist husks of what they once were.
When anyone can interpret the bible however they want, don't be surprised when all your seminaries just start injecting their most-modern marxist thoughts into dogma.
>>534835649
While it is getting a lot of views online, Orthodoxy is miniscule in number in the West. And unfortunately there is a massive locality issue for young men to not have access to orthodoxy if they find it to temper their souls. So many turn to Catholicism by proximity.
>>534835838
It is a strange turn of events. If there is anything that could give Luther peace is that his reformation did cause a lot of his criticisms about thing like corruption and indulgences to be address at the council of trent and vatican I.
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Hey look, is that thread again

rent free, nigger
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>>534834188
Many Sola Scripturists read the Old Testament, get bored by the time they reach the New Testament, and become Zionists instead of Christians.
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Every rainbow church and progressive congregation is just accepting the logical consequences of Jesus's ideas about tolerance, forgiveness, charity and "laying treasures in heaven" as he explains them in the New Testament. Jesus does not hold reproduction as a high moral value in any book, the only thing he says about sex is his mysterious proclamation about men becoming eunuchs by choice, so the strongest Biblical interpretation about sex is the Shaker version - don't have it. But if you're going to have it, it's not clear that Jesus would've been picky about how or with who. He did forgive a sinful woman after all, rather than let her get stoned to death according to the old law.
>But Christianity has historically banned homosexuality!
Sure, which isn't sola scriptura. That was added on later by Saul and the various big wig theologians since then, usually justified by the Old Testament rather than the New. But if Jesus calls you to love everyone, including your enemies, should you really be hatin' based on the OLD Testament?

Everything about modern liberalism is based in the logical conclusions of Christian values. EVERYTHING. Including the gays, lesbos and trannies.
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>>534835977
I'm calling your fucking bluff, Dispensationalism and or zionism is in every branch of the Baptist church:
>GARBC
>https://www.garbc.org/about-us/beliefs-constitution/articles-of-faith/
>XVIII. Israel
>We believe in the sovereign selection of Israel as God’s eternal covenant people, that she is now dispersed because of her disobedience and rejection of Christ, and that she will be regathered in the Holy Land and, after the completion of the church, will be saved as a nation at the second advent of Christ.

>BBFI
>Founded by J.Frank Norris, a staunch Dispensationalist
>https://www.bbfi.org/articles-of-faith
>Article XVI / XVII
their systematic separation of the "Age of Grace" from the "Kingdom Age" is the definition of the system.

>IFB
>always use New Hampshire Confession or Scofield Reference Bible, both of which profess Dispensationalism.

>SBC
>https://bfm.sbc.net/bfm2000/
>Article X
>"God, in His own time and in His own way, will bring the world to its appropriate end."
This is open to interpretation but MANY Southern Baptists take it to be open to Dispensationalist, thus why they are Zionists.

You want more direct proof of SBC beyond Dispensationalist theology? Look at their fucking website:
https://www.sbc.net/resource-library/resolutions/on-prayer-and-support-for-israel/
https://ffoz.org/messiah/articles/resolution-5-southern-baptists-stand-with-israel

Admit it, majority of Baptists in the US are zionists by one way(dispensationalism) or another (outright zionism)

Lutheran:
>ELCA
https://www.reconcilingworks.org/

>Episcopal
https://gemini.google.com/

>Presbyterian:
>PCUSA
https://pcusa.org/how-we-serve/inclusion-equity/lgbtqia-ministry

>Methodist
https://www.umc.org/en/content/ask-the-umc-what-is-the-churchs-position-on-homosexuality

I can keep going. Literally every single Protestant church in the US is either Zionist or Gay by dogma. No exceptions.
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>>534836865
damn you fucking chrome for auto-copying AI shit, the episcopal link is:
https://www.episcopalchurch.org/organizations-affiliations/lgbtq/
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>>534834188
>Does Sola Scriptura just inevitably lead to people making up their own view that aligns with modern popular culture?
You left the teaching of the Word first.
You are in no place to judge.
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>>534837302
how did sola scriptura lead all churches to homosexuality or zionism?
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>>534834188
I always thought that certain protestant sects fascination with Israel/ancient Israel/Judaism etc was to fill a psychological need of connection to the past/ a place that was lost once outside of Catholicism, but that's just me
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>>534839070
Where is confessing sins to a priest in the first 300 years of Church history? I'll wait.
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>>534834188
Protests are fake and gay. Every single one of them is bought and paid for.
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>>534839070
>pastor Bob struggles with understanding a headline in the newspaper, but he certainly can interpret correctly this 2000 years old document from another culture
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>>534839888
>John 20:22–23
"Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."
>James 5:16
"confess your sins to one another" and pray for one another for healing
>The Didache
In the church, you shall confess your sins, and you shall not come to your prayer with an evil conscience"
"But every Lord's day... gather yourselves together, and break bread... after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure"
We can go on with St. Irenaeus, Tertullian, St. Cyprian of Carthage. But i know your next line
>BUT WHERE DOES IT SAY A PRIEST SPECFICIALLY!?
It is an adaptation of the church in response to the world much the same as not letting the 95% illiterate lay people of first century read or hear scripture without apostolic succession. Things have to be protected from the secular world and maintained within the church.

When the church let the bible be read by anyone in the early church we immediately got Gnostics and other cults because people just interpretted whatever they want. So for centuries until humanity was more literate to learn scripture, it was safeguarded by the open imaginations of illiterate mankind.

Likewise Confession was a Public action done WITHIN THE CHURCH. However validating that your confession and intent were true and not just trying to manipulate people for favor or absolving without actually changing is a difficult task. So with time it fell on the priest who would be the moral weight in the community to assure you were confessing your sins forthright and not just lying when you confessed to any lay person to get off scot free.

Were we all saints, we could just openly confess our sins, but we are sinners so we need accountability.
>>534839888
Now its literally reading rainbow.
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>>534840460
>makes a thread mocking Sola Scriptura
>tries to answer my question using Sola Scriptura
You have 0 self awareness. Typical midwit Catholic.
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>>534840460
Catholic Church has hundreds of years of theology. Pastor Bob has only a checklist from his Israeli sponsor what he has to say and how often.
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>>534840656
>Michael Lofton
Already a low bar
Scripture and tradition are both what the catholic church teaches from. I literally gave you both from the New Testament and then the Didache in tradition tracing back to the early church and even addressed the specific contention that protestants have about confessing to "A PRIEST" and gave the exact context as to why we do what we do now in response to sin and the secular world.

If that answer isn't sufficient, I don't know how I can better answer you friend. All I can tell you that if you're a protestant, you're a zionist or a faggot. And the unfortunate truth is you know that to be true in every mainline protestant and evangelical church.
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>>534840460
Amen
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>>534841199
>nooo Michael Lofton isn't a REAL Catholic like me
You're pathetic and demonic. You failed to prove that the sacrament of confession to a priest is anywhere in the first 300 years of Church history. You'll lie and say you did. Your father is the father of lies.
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>>534841474
I gave you all the context you needed, but whatever. Keep going to your dying pride church for Israel.
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>>534841790
You didn't give anything you pathetic shill. What a complete and utter dishonest failure you are.
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>>534834188
Protestantism was created to attack Hispanics, now that the Hispanic Empire is no more, protestantism is imploding.
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>>534841945
>Hispanics
More like France, Papal States, Italy and Spain.
Which coincided to be the main powers keeping Ottomans from taking over the Mediterranean Sea and South Europe.
It's strange how rarely the Sultan and his influence is mentioned in history books.
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>>534842262
The Greek, Macedonian, and Armenian genocides are also left out of most peoples histories unfortunately.

One thing I will give Orthodoxy is they martyr for their beliefs as we saw with the ottomans and the soviets. May God one day reunite both the West and the East in full communion with one another.
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>>534834188
there is no protestant church so i don't get these threads. on the other hand there is a catholic church and if the church says suck nigger toes and let immigrants in you better do it otherwise you're going to hell, boy fucking faggot
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>>534842730
>Vicar of Christ humbles himself kissing the feet of the poor
I realize the Omnipotent God of All humbled himself in torture and death for you right? Do you not understand divine humility?
>Immigrants
This is a point of contention between the moralistic thing and the compounding reality of economic manipulation causing the crisis.

Pope Leo even recently said to people, don't leave your countries for the West, stay and fix them. But even before that when Francis was ambiguous, but Catholic Church is operating as aid to refuges in good faith. That all those who they meet and are told are refuges of war or persecution are such, rather than just economic migrants summoned by exploitative billionaires.

The Catholic Church is trying to do try by helping those they give the benefit of the doubt as being feeling death to come here, but it is obvious that the cheap labor is just here to be used and abused, hence Leo drawing a line in the sand.

Christ said to welcome the immigrant, the refuge, give them shelter, and aid. But an economic migrant that just being used to depress wages isn't the same as war-fleeing migrant.



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