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While I’m not disputing moderate looksmaxxing is a positive thing in many instances, why is it young White men are only encouraged to “looksmaxx” to get pussy and respect from society as opposed to moneymaxxing and powermaxxing which also will allow you access to pussy and respect? Bonesmashing your jaw? What about metaphorically bonesmashing your competition?
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>>534837950
looxmaxing is publicly standing in the closet
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>>534837950
>Is a social media phenomenon on platforms that value looks over everything else a red herring?
No.
It's a consequence of how insta or tiktok reward attractiveness.
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>>534837950
>hey look i watch a tv show
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>>534837950
Tony Soprano was good looking. A lot of men don't want to accept that, but it's true.
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>>534838415
>t.spent $50,000 on plastic surgery and still a loser
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>>534838433
He was tall and strong but his face is 5/10 mid at best and attractiveness is firstly in the face
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>>534837950
It is set in new jersey
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>>534838433
He had a look he leaned into, girls care more about your "vibe" and archetype than your actual face. You can have some flaws, even like being fat, if you are a literal mob boss gangster. If you are a pretty boy twink looksmaxxer yeah you'd better have your facial symmetry all checked out. But if you are a "blue collar guy" or even controversial styles like "musician goth guy" you can be a little ugly and pull girls because they expect that
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>>534838519
>attractiveness is firstly in the face
I thought this weird ass myth died out years ago
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>>534837950
woman love evil people, they have this suicidal empathy towards them thinking they can fix them

smart people realize this and never become 'fixed' and keep them on the hook for as long as possible
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>>534838635
Nope. it’s still the most accepted theory
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>>534838519
He has very good bone structure, he's just fat.
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>>534838519
This is more like a 5/10 face. Look how much naturally stronger Gandolfini's face is.
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>>534837950
>why is it young White men are only encouraged to “looksmaxx”


It's part of the Socialist Jewish "LGBT" shit, to make men more FEMININE acting and metro-sexualism is a gateway to HOMOSEXUALISM.

Homosexuals (parasite riddled goyims) tend to be suggestive to propaganda and easily controlled and submissive overall.
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>>534838664
I thought there was tons of research that women prefer a tall guy with 5/10 face over a short guy with 10/10 face
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>>534837950
Have you considered he was rich?
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>>534838770
>women prefer
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>>534838770
They do but up to a point. If you're some acne beta loser lanklet women will still rather go for 5'11" confident ripped chad, I lived this until I got my shit together.
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>>534837950
>Is looksmaxxing just a red herring?
yes. most whamen go after power not looks. they'll insta drop their cute bf if some jabba the hut mf has way more and signals he wants her, like instant bail.
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>>534838886
She'll still cuck jabba with men she's actually attracted to don't kid yourself
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>>534838770
No, there isn’t. There is research that women prefer White skin more than height though.
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>>534837950
Power/moneymaxxing actually works, that's why.
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>>534838954
That’s just the blackpill cope. No evidence of it.
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>>534837950
Pajeet thread
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>>534837950

Women are attracted to power, but most forms of power today are significantly more accessible to females than to males. If a woman applies for a managerial or CEO position there are quotas by the government, BlackRock, and Vanguard to give her those positions. Educational attainment is more accessible to women with an IQ below 80 than for men with an average IQ because of the biased school system. Young women earn significantly more money than young men because all high paid easy jobs go to women and girls.

There simply aren't any low status women left in society, being a woman is having a high status in the modern West. You are always in demand.

This wasn't as bad in the decades prior to today, so women could satisfy their hypergamous instincts with ugly high achievers, but today only a handful men can engage in statusmaxxing and money has largely lost its symbol of status, so male status is no longer defined by net worth but by good genetics (looks) and by social media following.
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>>534837950
Women can find a man attractive by things that he does or who he is. I could take pretty much any poltard, throw some nice clean clothes on him, some sunglasses, a hat, a guitar, put him on stage with a band, shine a spot light on him, let him sing a few songs through autotune, and he would have women lined up when he got off stage.
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>>534838954

https://nuancepill.substack.com/p/why-is-the-incel-narrative-so-popular

The Blackpill is always a form of coping.
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>>534837950
Tony was a good-looking guy. Tall, dark features, and he had a very physically imposing barrel-chested “bruiser” look about him, which in the 2000s was a pretty popular tough guy look. The only thing was that he was bald, but he projected an aura of wealth and a “shot-caller” kind of vibe that made up for it.
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>>534839092
> and money has largely lost its symbol of status
Not really. It’s just that they are fucking Arabs from Dubai. Real money to them is the ability to buy nice handbags and go on exotic vacations.
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>>534837950
Wow...tv shows arent real life?
How do people like OP even exist?
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>>534839211
>Wario was a good-looking guy. Tall, dark features, and he had a very physically imposing barrel-chested “bruiser” look about him, which in the 2000s was a pretty popular tough guy look. The only thing was that he had garlic breath, but he projected an aura of wealth and a “shot-caller” kind of vibe that made up for it.
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>>534839211
He didn't hide his baldness, same with Michael Ironside
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>>534839266
So real life is whatever Clavicular says it is?
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>>534838770
I'll keep saying it because it needs to be said. Being tall doesn't fucking matter, it was a stupid internet meme and it's not even true. If it was id be drowning in pussy. Women care about status more than anything. They are like dragons they only care about material shit.
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>>534839319
Wario gets bitches too
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>>534839319
The princess would probably fuck Wario over Mario irl.
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>>534839358
No, you're just an idiotic sperg who can only think in memes and straw men
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>>534837950
a good looking broke guy is going to get more pussy than average looking guy making 400k a year
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>>534839361
Being tall raises your chances of a ONS or being matched on a dating app, but it it won’t cure you of every ick if you have too many negative traits. In terms of sexual partner count, on average tall men have 1 extra sexual partner compared to short people.
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>>534839470
Correct women are all rats clamoring to be the top bitch. Their definition of top bitch is mostly influenced by hypergamy and genetic forces but still follows enough of a pattern that you can basically chalk it up to women being a walking eugenics program. Not all of them make it of course, but they still tried and that's the damning part.
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He worked at a stripclub so obviously he had game and could talk to women easily. Add that with the tough guy gangster vibe and wealth? Seems totally believable.

Most the time he was banging literal whores that he met through his illegal activities so there's also the power dynamic. It seems sort of believable.
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>>534837950
The show actually reveals more about what women want more than you realize. A hot body to fuck is just sensuality. Everyone likes candy. But a man who has power and influence is like a well cooked marbled steak. Women are more material than simply sex appeal.
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>>534839448
Probably but there’s an age and lifestyle component. If the $400,000 a year guy used that money to create an illusion of extravagance like an Arab oil sheik he could probably get a lot of bitches. Also he could blow that money on hookers but you probably don’t count that.

However, realistically speaking, he’s probably married so it’s doubtful he’s really pussy hunting. Meanwhile the broke good looking guy is probably younger and also single, or at least unmarried.
>>534839429
You strawmanned me first by claiming I thought “tv shows are real life” when the picture is just a funny meme to illustrate a real life phenomenon. I’m sure I could find thousands of examples of ugly power or moneymaxxed men irl who got plenty of good looking girls (including Jeff Epstein for a bit of a dark example) but you are just here to be a bitter person and try to insult me, not engage with an idea in good faith.
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>>534838754
>if not for this guy i could be getting neetbux
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>>534838855
5'11 isn't short though, its an inch off of 6 foot

5'9-5'10 is average
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>>534839448
Depends on how he makes the $400,000 a year. Women don't give a shit about Dave in IT making $400k, but if he makes money doing something they find exciting then they will find the guy much more attractive.
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>>534839867
5'11 is fucking massive for an Italian
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No. Looks are everything, and if you don't have them it's over.

"Muh money and power" looksmaxxed teenage Chads have neither of those things and still are publicly lusted over by their teachers and other older women while regularly pounding and dating the prime late teens/early-20s women that ugly oldfags need to be CEOs with political connections to spend a single night per year with.
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>>534839996
>Todd the accountant makes $300k and works for Widget Inc
Ick
>Todd the accountant makes $300k and cooks books for the mafia
Sploosh
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>>534840051
Cmon dude, “rates of sexual harassment” is not the majority of females engaging in sex. That doesn’t mean your claim.
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>>534837950
Looksmaxxing is only relevant for women. Zoomers are all just completely gender confused and feminized from all the metoo toxic masculinity rape culture indoctrination.
It's not the male role in the human mating process to attract a mate with your looks, that's the female role. It doesn't work for men unless they are a gay twink trying to attract another homosexual man.
The male role is to be aggressive and take risks and make the first move and push things forward sexually. The men who consistently do those things get girls, regardless of what they look like. The men who never do those things (You) don't get girls, regardless of what they look like.
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>>534839755
You would never see a Tony Soprano in today's media. There would be constant screeching from the left about toxic masculinity.
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Maxlookkkers > Looks Maxxing

Does /pol/ like to look maximally at things?
I think it does.
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>>534840051
Nah, enough status beats looks. An average looking 30+ professional athlet or successful musician or actor will get much more attention from women than any unknown looxmaxed 20 something.
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>>534839361
No, being tall definitely helps, most tall guys just have terrible game because they always fall back on just being tall to get girls.
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>>534838954
yeah but she prioritizes jabba over you. jabba gonna take her on tropical islands, visit dubai and go shopping, and fuck and deepthroat her all the time. she might fuck you once she's back but jabba got priority, not you
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>>534839779
I claimed that because thats what you literally did in the op
Now shut the fuck up and stop replying to this dogshit retarded thread
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>>534839448
>a good looking broke guy is going to get more pussy than average looking guy making 400k a year
Not necessarily. Neither one of them is going to get any pussy if they just spend all of their free time at home, alone, whining about women online instead of actually hitting on girls.
Meanwhile, broke ugly dudes who incessantly hit on every female they see occasionally get laid just from numbermaxxing and the shotgun approach.
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>>534838770
It depends on the girl, nerdy 5/10 girls who can’t pull an actual face chad are the most militant about height because lanklet nerds were already in their league. In my experience the 5’10 handsome guy will always mog when it comes to real life group interactions.
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>>534840531
> While I’m not disputing moderate looksmaxxing is a positive thing in many instances, why is it young White men are only encouraged to “looksmaxx” to get pussy and respect from society as opposed to moneymaxxing and powermaxxing which also will allow you access to pussy and respect? Bonesmashing your jaw? What about metaphorically bonesmashing your competition?
Where does it say that “tv shows are real life” in this paragraph?
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>>534837950
instagram buckbroke society
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>girls that are
>THAT
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I'm very good looking. I don't believe it myself, but women keep telling me so. Not in so many words, but by staring at me, because they like to look at me, by involuntary facial cues I've learned to read. A slight widening of the eyes, an involuntary flaring of the nostrils, not blinking when we make eye contact. And by returning wide genuine smiles when I smile at them just to see how they'll react. Married women try to fuck me. Younger girls complement my eyes unprompted. I've had women come up to me and hand me their phone number in public. 3 times. I get a lot of innuendo from females in conversation directed at me. And a lot more. I'm also a registered sex offender.

:)
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>>534837950
it's stupid, i'm 39 and i fuck 24-7 year old broads all the time. Nothing extravagant but they're cute enough and some are real givers
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>>534841036
What do you have going for you? Looks height money power status personality etc?
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>>534837950
It's a fucking TV show you fucking moron.
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>>534838519
Mostly in the balls.
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>>534841143
They're stupid too anon.
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>>534841209
>dating apps aren’t real life they are apps
filled with bots and catfishers. Among the real women who use them, most matches don’t end with the girl ever meeting the person irl
>social media is curated for people to put their best face forward and create a facade of a perfect life as much as they can
>prominent looksmaxxers get money from sleazy and dubious benefactors such as Peter Theil bailing clavicle out of jail for some reason
>a lot of blackpillers are mentally unbalanced incels who are basing their opinions of women and looks from observation as opposed to real experience with them
What else can be said?
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>>534840980
>this much sperging because you were called ugly in the thread
Sorry Epstein I mean “palm beach Pete”
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>>534838680
>bald
>fat
>shitalian
>double chin
>half eyebrow
Mama mia
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>>534840174
That's mostly just to illustrate my point, since it's only the guys with good looks that happens to.

>>534840362
Possibly, provided they know that about him and with that in play, you can't know if they are actually attracted to him on a sexual level, or just want to get some clout/status themselves by being with him. You can just gender flip it and see how many men would still prefer the normie good-looking 20-year-old against a careermaxxed 30+-year-old, which is really the main issue here. People often don't like to hear it, but male and female sexuality really are very similar, just flipped, with women putting just somewhat more weight to status and resources due to societal factors.
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>>534841709
Italians have an ethnic halo, women love Italians.
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>>534839094
You don't need to even go that far. Put him in front of decks have him pretend to be a DJ for an hour to a prerecorded set and he can still get bitches.
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>>534837950
Because People have it backwards. Looksmaxxing only truly works for women, and it always has. Since the beginning of time, it has been men who genuinely appreciate and value beauty, while women do not, at least not to a comparable degree. This is why virtually all great poets, artists, and painters throughout history have been male.

and let me tell you by experience, lookmaxing doesnt work for men, i know men who literally looks like sculptures and check all boxes, who still have it hard with women.
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>>534840165
Women are definitely attracted to how much a man spends, not earns. A guy who earns 50k and blows it straight away is their kryptonite
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>>534837950
The woman in Tony's life never loved him, it was a pretty major plot point of his character.
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>>534842206
in brief: male models are all homos
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White women have sex with niggers. It's pretty obvious that women care less about physical attractiveness than other factors.
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>>534842297
Also to add to this, women dont really enjoy sex, while men enjoy it, for women its just a tool to get what they want, and women orgams are most of time just larping.
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>>534838519
Gandolfini had a strong, masculine face, he was probably considered very handsome back in the days
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>>534842648
then why are teachers fucking young teenage boys like horny sluts?
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>>534841935
>you can't know if they are actually attracted to him on a sexual level

What you do can actually change whether or not they are sexually attracted to you. I'm old (45) but fairly good looking, tall, nice face, but I don't have women hitting on me much, especially not the young zoomers. However, I can play the shit out of a guitar and sing, and if you give me a microphone I can be entertaining. I own a bar at the beach that I play at, on a little tourist island where zoomettas like to vacation. I can go to the bar and walk around and no women approach me. Then, I get on stage, play a set, and when I get done the zoommettas will all want to talk. I've had them come up and shove their tits in my face, kiss me, flash thier tits while I'm playing, when an hour ago I was basically invisible to them. They can actually find you more sexually attractive based off of what you do. Men don't really care what a woman does.
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>>534842799
Because women dna is about biting the apple, if you raised daughters you would understand, this is mainly why they are attracted to nigger culture, because they are not supposed to. it's aka nefarious. a male do it because he is attracted to genuinly to youth, a women is only attracted to the danger of it. tell your daughter and son to not do something, your boy will listen, your daughter will do exactly that.
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>>534842760
Also it's about the presence and vibe as someone had already commented. Tony was intimidating and alpha, while his alter ego from dreams Kevin Flaerty or something like that was a polite, average ordinary guy and that kind of demeanour had completely changed the perception of his attractiveness. It happens all the time, Jake Gyllenhaal played two characters in of the movies, one of them acted like a beta cuck, while the other was an aggressive sigma chad, and no matter how stupid that sounds, it was the presence that made one of those characters attractive and not the other one, even when they were played by the same fucking guy
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>>534842760
He always had psycho charisma. If anything, he toned it way down for the Sopranos. Look at his role in True Romance. Like in this scene right before he beats her almost to death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8dCwpj0iU
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I trannsmaxx and skip all the bullshit and fuck guys. Way more easier and fun
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>>534838519
Wario definitely scores
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>>534837950
Guys.. it's just a TV show.
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He was successful, powerful and TALL as FUCK
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>>534837950
To answer your question, yes.
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>>534842799
Millions of teachers in USA so it's really quite a small minority
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>>534843444
Cursed trips
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>>534843444
Dead serious, as a guy it wasn't that hard for me to get women but I still saw all the divorce rape the men in my life dealt with even my brother has to beg to have visitation with his son. Now that I'm a tranny I can hook up and date a guy whenever and men are always happy to see me on a date, I shut my mouth and don't complain and i have them wrapped around my finger.
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>>534843393
True romance actually made me want to watch Sopranos. What a great movie, i especially loved the Sicilian scene kek
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You lot best be trolling. Do m*n really view that sack of potatoes as good looking?
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>>534843444
You're really committing to it if you're unironically drinking wine
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>>534843444
checked but you're still a faggot
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>>534843872
Wine is nummers
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>>534837950
>moneymaxxing and powermaxxing
I mean, that's just the standard in society. By the way is that Meloni in the middle?
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>>534844038
So the hormones actually changed your palette to a girly one too, that's interesting
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>>534843806
Lol, 99.99% of them never get caught you retard simp faggot. Kys.
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>>534837950
You're a loser
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>>534843872
>>534844205
>eeew wine is for girls!
Not only are you a faggot you are also a fucking child! Get off this site and do your homework timmy.
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>>534838770
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>>534844269
The women who fuck 14 year old niggers aren't subtle rational people
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>>534844411
Should have said wine is for girls and europeans
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>>534837950
Sopranos is fiction. Power and money attract women. This however doesn’t change the fact that Tony would have had ten times as many bitches and been a literal celebrity had he been super hot
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Because white men like white teenage girls with light features and those types of girls like really hot guys. To get a brown girl, you could literally look like a Chud.

Being a nerdy-looking white guy is like being the defective runt of the litter. Being a white guy who girls giggle over is like being a stallion.
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Women are drawn to confidence and power. Being the boss of a mafia crew and owning a strip club with access to beautiful women means Tony the character had tons of women chasing after him.
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>>534845225
> Tony would have had ten times as many bitches and been a literal celebrity had he been super hot
You can say that about anyway but you are just stacking stats. The more important question is what is worth focusing on?

Also Tony wouldn’t have as much respect if he was “hot”. The aspect is the “respect” aspect.
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>>534837950
i'm the unemployed anon who hangs out in starbucks every day
(hopefully i'm the only one that fits that description lol).
just today, two attractive ~27y/o White women in yoga outfits were sitting alone at a table talking.
two tall, Aryan, fit, and (dare i say) handsome gym bros enter and stand by the counter directly beside the womens' table.
neither girl even glances at them.
the guys must've been standing there for 30 seconds waiting for their drinks and they might as well have been invisible to those bitches.
i don't know who has a shot with those girls if they deemed those dudes unworthy of a glance.
and the girls looked like sisters or cousins, so they probably weren't dykes either.
it baffled & perturbed me.
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>>534837950
You have no idea what it means to be a man.
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>>534843210
I hope I get isekaied into some anime realm that's littered with 2D waifus with none of these 3DPD whores.
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>>534846440
Maybe they saw them as performative males lol, the absolute state of everything.
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>>534846440
>tall, Aryan, fit, and (dare i say) handsome gym bros enter
you should have ask them out. both of them.
also, you're assuming the roastoids were single
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>>534838519
Pee is stored in the balls
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>>534839092
>applies to a CEO position

You're clueless
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>>534846440
cringe
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>>534847151
Anon is shy those men will drown him in their saliva and semen; he has a giant fetish too so he wants to be shrunk.
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>>534839628
His office was behind a deli, wasn't it? The strip club was owned by Silvio
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>>534840165
Todd #1 is going to save his money for retirement. Todd #2 is likely to burn through it all and spend it on good times.
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>>534842760
>>534838519
The actress for Adriana said on reddit he was the most attractive man on the show and it was all because of his presence
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>>534839361
Nigga fails on easy mode
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You absolutely don't need to work out anaerobically (to increase muscle mass or bulk)

You absolutely, 100% need to work out aerobically (to improve your cardiovascular health so that you can live for about 10-15 years longer.

Just saying.
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>>534837950
just be glad we succeeded in mainstreaming looksmaxxing
it is better to have more health and beauty, than to teach people to not care about it
and discarding looksmaxxing as some sort of cope, that is itself cope and it is the bigger cope
humanity must go forward
the children must be healthy for what is to come, even if that requires cruel lessons
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>>534848469
>we
go back, take your TMJ inducing jawzrsize with you too
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>>534848913
I use tree resin like my ancestors 20.000 years ago
how about you? soda? mountain dew and cheese puffs, I guess?
hypocrite
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>>534849037
>how about you?
I name the jew like my cromagnon chad ancestors did 40,000 years ago.
you're a male-2-male tranny. i'm sorry, I want you to be normal. I'm just trying to help you.
You're young and naive
You don't even know this fad ends yet...
You don't know what a metrosexual is
I do, we made fun of them
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>>534837950
It's because he's an evil rich criminal retard lmao, plenty of ugly rich niggas boning prime holol ptp every day lil bro
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>>534849178
I am keeping my teeth healthy.
You on the other hand, you are coping about other people caring about their health and looks on an internet forum.
You are coping because you are ugly and lazy and don't want to have to do anything in order to not be ugly and unhealthy.
I believe you. You are a super male who will be healthy and beautiful even after drinking, smoking, mountain dew and cheeseballs every day.
Stop being naive and chew more, retard.
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>>534849552
how do you make the assumptions? only niggers drink the corn syrup here.
Calm down sweaty.
do you see my talking about you wearing eyeliner and hair pieces (or taking drugs that nuke your balls)? no.
I don't know how far a long you are on your TRANSformation from male-2-male.
I eat clean, no sugar lots of meat, no hormones etc, etc. but
You can cope and just pretend i'm some retard who's a 'hater' (do zoomoids even use that term anymore?)
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>>534847714
She also went full retard MAGA and started an onlyfans. So there's that.
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>>534837950
Even this cutie wanted to suck his D after a couple lines of snow
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>>534839319
Wario fucks.
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>>534837950
sopranos is a tv show and tony soprano is incredibly wealthy + a criminal
women love criminals and money
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>>534849837
In her case both those things are based
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>>534840924
>THAT
women are objects
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>>534837950
If looksmaxxing is worth anything it's not about getting all dolled up, but that it teaches you to be singularly focused. The actual key to success is to have resolve and mental fortitude to keep working at something you want accomplished without stopping. You need to be dedicated to looksmaxxing like that to get any results, and if that mentality transfers to other areas of life it's a good thing. If it just keeps you a self-obsessed closet homosexual though, as seems to often be the case, then it's probably not worth the effort.
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>>534841036
you fuck twenty-four 7 year old broads? save some for the rest of us, will ya?
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looks are for hoes
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>>534838747
He looks like the busts of the Caesars I saw in Rome
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>>534837950
Looksmaxing is basically being a tranny. There is nothing wrong with self improvement, but it takes it to a neurotic extreme. It’s like an autistic look into what they think a “chad” is. Of course brainrotted social media addicts are attracted to it.
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>>534837950
Lookmaxxing is retarded. Women prefer a kinda rough looking man who clearly displays dominance and authority over a preening faggot.



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