Why do leftists hate AI so much?
>>534842797Threadly reminder American taxpayers are preemptively on the hook for bailing out AI developers thanks to the Genesis Mission.https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/11/launching-the-genesis-mission/
>>534842797Er, why is it lit up? There's no reason for it to be.
>>534842866lmao citing the constitution to justify executive orders(executive orders are not listed as a power in the constitution)
>>534842797>Why does ZOG like AI so much
>>534842797AI will likely end up hurting humans and the environment. The left would like to avoid those things from happening.
>What are the deeper connections between AI and Israel, and who is it that wants to enslave humanity
>>534842917Everyone knows computers run more powerful the more lights you attach to them
>>534842917data glows
>>534842985Why would the left care about humans with they import sub human shitskins to White countries?
>>534842917they are wasting electricity on purpose to destroy the environment and please the wyrm
>>534842985>zero understanding of conservation >against nuclear energy>hate rural areas despite habitat destruction being the number one cause of species lossYes, lefties are soooo environmentally aware
>>534842797The fuck they need so much light for?
>>534842797It's unironically to prevent night time terrorist attacks
They are ensouled unlike rightoids
>>534842797Reddit tells them how to feel
ai faggots are all fat retarded yids
>>534842917The LEDs make them run faster
>>534842797Why do rightoids pathologically take up the opposite position that leftists take, even if it is to their own detriment?
>>534842985Humans are the most self-hating, destructive form of wildlife on earth. We are destined to die off. It's inevitable. Once you come to terms with this and except the fate of this species, nothing really matters but enjoying your fellow man/woman/child suffer and die. God knows this is coming too. But God does not concern itself with satanic and evil beings cursed to live like violent and filthy mongrels.
>>534842917These facilities are literally the most heavily secured places on earth. I have never seen anything like it. Military and nuclear sites are far easier easier to access. They are lit up 24/7 to keep meddling goyim from trespassing.
>>534843386>Military and nuclear sites are far easier easier to accesslmfao
>>534842797Ahh yes rural Texas. A well known hub of leftists.
Because they're faggots
>>534842797why exactly does a giant computer box need bright neon lights shining into all directions? it could literally be just a black box like a desktop computer. putting leds on everything is for niggers. turn the fucking lights off you fucking led niggers.
>>534843386Why not keep them dark so the goyim can't find it?
>>534842797Why do you keep posting this thread every hour?
>>534842797Anyone with a brain hates AI
>>534842797because it replaces themwith machines doing all our work for us none of their bitching means anything anymore
>>534843469it doesn't, this story is fake and gay just like the "AI IS USING ALL THE WATER" posts they spammed last week
>>534843386>this pasta again
>>534843360
>>534842797If ai was so great, why do all these data centers need to use underhanded tactics to get them built? Shouldn't the public be clamoring for more if they were truly such a benefit to society?
>>534842797Burn it down, then if you assholes hate it so much? What they got armed guards?BURN IT DOWN!
>>534843246Leftists in Vermont shut down the only nuke plant in the state because they were "concerned about spend waste". They took the money they allocated to shut it down and immediately demolished the reactor building and supporting structures so that it could never be brought back online, and completely ignored the spent waste stored on site. They have no plan to deal with it long term and now that the facility is destroyed they no longer give a fuck about it. Our largest power plant now burns wood chips. They claim this is "carbon free" because it completes some kind of bullshit carbon cycle they made up. The wood comes from clearcutting old growth forests in Quebec.I hate them more than you could possibly imagine
>>534843725none of that is truethe entire anti-ai narrative is just jews panicking that ai liberates all forms of media from jewish control
>>534843363Someone post the sumerian tablet crying about all the same shit retards are crying about today.
>>534843109That is one thing that bothers me about the left. They are right about litterally everything except immigration and trannys.
>>534842797jews want AI so bad so they can keep jewing to the max on sabbath while they trick their god with jew tricks the AI does it on its own like a kosher lightswitch
>>534843810None of what? I never stated any facts. Are you broken, kikebot?
>>534842917The AI fears the dark
>>534843793fucking hell
>>534843898I was obviously referring to the "underhanded tactics" you have been lying aboutkill yourself retarded shill
>>534844002I never posted anything specific. Who are you to say it isn't true? Are you really saying every data center company acts like an angel and has never done anything morally questionable? That's a pretty big blanket statement you're making. I do have examples but to outright say I'm lying before I even state them only proves how much of a fucking shill you are.
at least leftists do hate itright wingers,aka little sissy bitch cucksluts for jeet and jew cock,don't say a peep about it.they love itthey love paying more for water and electricity for a jeetcodded supercomputer spymachine run by PALANTYRbut heh,those freaking SJWs right??!!! it's still 2016 right guises??
>>534844073didn't readkill yourself retarded shill
>>534842797Cuz AI is anti commie bullshit. you know like seize the production, seize the nation bullshit they love to chant about. all about workers right and the hard work of the working men, work, work, work shit. AI replaces all that. The worker is replace. The people is replaced. You can't seize the production because you literally can't do shit. Only the rich and powerful have control. Essentially, AI replace the poor and hopefully one day will start to kill the poor as well. when we gonna start flying drones into homeless shelters like the frontlines of Ukraine?
>>534844096Kek you really are a fucking bot. Crazy.
>>534844139no, I just don't engage with pilpul retarded shill
>perhaps there is some connection between the machines that will be used to weaken and enslave humanity, and the people who deeply hate humanity
>>534844075>>>/plebbit/
>>534844173How is what I'm doing pilpul?
>>534843812Well yeah, that proves my point. Humanity is hopeless. Technology doesn't change the fact that we're self destructive retards.
>>534844203kill yourself retarded shill
>>534844234Uh oh, kikebot got stuck in a loop. Someone whack the side of his server.
>>534844234im pro ai, but youre definitely dumber than he is.
>>534844223the jews have done a number on youhumanity is a beautiful creative force which is why kikes hate us so much and work so hard to convince us that we are destructive and evilin truth, they and the subhumans they use as tools against us are the ones doing all of the destruction
If leftists truly cared about the environment they would stop data centers from being built, stop glyphosate spraying of the forests and kick out every single third worlder.
>>534843793>>534843246Notice how shills take unrelated topics and try to condition people to relating them all to the same thing? In this case AI data centers.We aren't talking about nuclear plants.
>>534844325>If leftists truly cared about the environment they would kick out every single third worlder.stick with this, its cleaner.
>why does left/right do xbot thread
>>534844002holy shid i think this is an actual AI bot trying to defend itself
>>534844354nice try kike but your narrative didn't work and you've already lost. post it again in the next hour and try again
no refunds
>>534844199>>>>/plebbit/>go to the ghislaine maxwell website,LIBTARD!>this is the based goy MAGA Epstein brainchild containment website!!like I said, little cuckslut for kike cock
>>534844354nuclear plants are on-topic when it comes to ai data center politics, as nuke plants are the only cost effective/nature-safe way to power them.youre dumber than a box of rocks. youre about as sharp as a bowling ball.as useful as a sack of wet mice.
>>534844441off by three sorry troon
>>534844388Unchecked mass immigration is so antithetical to everything else they believe in that it's amazing they were dumb enough to be tricked into supporting it. Literally everything else is downstream of that.>Affordable housing>Worker rights>Environmental stewardship>Climate activismThe list goes on. All made worse by immigrants.
>>534842797>light pollutionholy retards
>>534844441>1pbtid jumbled up insult slopillegal immigrant turd worlder says what?
>>534844516This nigga has never looked up and saw a galaxy before.
Wagies are worried about their bull shit jobs being automated away. The Gramscian march of the culturally relevant institutions has occurred over the last couple of decades, meaning the Communists and Commie-adjacents now control most of academia, the intellectual newspapers (truly an oxymoron these days), the media, etc. This means that the Lefty-types that are employed by these institutions write from their perspective, and it gets amplified throughout society. I’m sure there are plenty of Conservatives against AI, but they have little control of the traditional culturally relevant institutions. Of course, which institutions matter is changing over time.>>534843838>They are right about litterally everything except immigration and trannys.No. Canadian Libtards like yourself are why Canada is going down the shitter. The Lefties’ agenda of high taxes and redistribution is gay and retarded. People should take care of themselves and cultivate their own networks to help them. The main issue is that we don’t really live under capitalism in the West. We live under corporatism. Much of this is the byproduct of the debt-based monetary system. Fix the money and fix everything downstream. The current system is configured for a parasitic elite to siphon wealth from the people, but the solution is not communism.
>>534844511of course it isthe entire "environmentalism" narrative is actually just anti civilization. the same kikes who dump poison into the air, water and food are the same ones screaming that we shouldn't be allowed to build better power plants or drive cars or make computers do the fake jobs that kikes designed for themselves and always give to their fellow kikes
>>534844594didn't read kill yourself retarded shill
>>534844542>illegal immigrant turd worlder says what?MAGA!! VANCE 2028!!! #LOCKHERUP
>>534844627>maga vance etcgood anon, based and plan-truster pilled.thats such a nice photo of you, you should frame it.
>>534844298If humans were worth a single shit there would be no jews. No intelligent species would tolerate this behavior. Again you're proving my point. And beauty? Are you out of your fucking mind? The average meadow has more beauty than anything humans have created. I have never seen anything made by humans that comes remotely close to the beauty of a damselfly, or a golden eagle, or a tiger, or a coral reef. Get over yourself. Humans need makeup and clothing and other retarded shit to look good at their best, birds of paradise do that naturally.
>>534842797Aside from our search engines being better monitored and censored, and the DLSS fake framerates that create a nice vaseline smear in games, what has AI actually improved?
>rural town of Crowell, Texas>"leftists"Rubes
>>534844727All it takes is one greedy white with no scruples to sell out all the rest of us to the jewish menace. That's how they've survived all these years.
>>534844769our military capabilities.a recent example is ghost murmur being used to find our downed fighter pilot and exfil him from enemy territory. stuff like that was fiction 20 years ago.
>>534843838>>534843109"threadly" reminder miggers are the ones pro-illegals. liberals are pro-immigration
>>534842797Because they have to constantly manipulate it in order to not be racist and incredibly anti-semitic mechahitler
>>534844880>leftsharts arent pro illegal immigrantsdumbest post of the year so far award.this one is a prestigious honor, cherish it until someone steals it from you.
>>534844674what's you opinion on palantir? =^)
>>534842797Psyop thread, people choose their political views primarily based on their social identities and even more so on what the "enemy" social identities say, thank the homosexual Jew (((Arthur Finkelstein))) for developing that method of controlling the goyim and why everyone is so "divided" today. And also why every time there's a political discussion someone jumps in with what the "enemy" social identity is saying, be it "white women" (enemy-ized to the right wing fairly recently) or any other group.
>>534842917Because it's full of RAM. You'd be a rich man if you stole that shit, people would buy it.FUCK AIGGERS
>>534844880That both want both things. There's no party that represents patriotic americans anymore. Populism would be nice but every time a populist leader makes waves they come down with a bad case of acute lead poisoning.
>>534844975White women made themselves enemies. No one is telling them to act the way they do.
>>534844624lmao you kikes get so mad when people name you
>>534845080I was just repeating what you said, moron.
>>534844970as long as they stick to real technological advancements in the military sector, and not consumer level, nanny-state bullshit, they'll be a force for good.thiel and karp probably have to go first, though. they love surveilling normal people and reading their DM's.
>>534844829Nobody else would get rid of them either, don't kid yourself. There's jews living in muslim countries, The jews live everywhere and at best are chased out. Because humans are trash and retarded. Nothing you can say will change this. We're going to destroy ourselves because we suck ass.
>>534844943king migger and his billionaire friends are elevating illegals right now cause he needs them to clean their hotels for sub min wage
>>534845131>as long as they stick to real technological advancements in the military sector, and not consumer level, nanny-state bullshit, they'll be a force for good. You're really giving >>534844880 a run for their money >>534844943
>>534845200didn't read kill yourself retarded shill
>>534845200>>534845260Fuck, sorry, your id was the same color as the guy I was arguing with before. Ignore what I said.
>>534845038libs have always been due process and pro-immigration. miggers just spent the last 10 years larping as anti-illegal only to get a harsh lesson on how trump became a billionaire in real estate. you can't be anti-illegal and pro-miga now
You guys will be able to buy the RAM and the data center AI cards ("graphics cards") very cheaply after they are done using this generation and upgrade. Look at the nVidia Telsa V100's for a good deal right now (you'll need a PCIe adapter for the data center variety) and as time passes there will always be a 'data center to general public' pipeline for these cards. What's $10,000 today and plugged into a data center server rack will be $200 tomorrow and plugged in to your AI video porn machine.
>>534845200They don't necessarily have to be white. There's always going to be someone willing to betray everyone else for the right price. Humans do suck ass.
>>534845203>nevermind that the left stops at nothing to cover for the criminality of currently residing illegals, hands out ever growing amounts of welfare and benefits to them, allows them to vote, and gives money to the people shuttling them in here in droves, all while providing tacit support for cartel interests; drompflestiltskin used a mexican maid, checkmate chuddieyou absolutely need to kill yourself, actblue shit-shoveler.
>>534845291Because we were lied to. He was making gains on illegals and then just got the call and stopped. We thought he was actually going to do things for the american people and not israeli interests. Our bad.
>>534845380biden never did something like this. why is that you think?
>>534845240>cant say why im wrongthats because you have no opinions of your own.you outsource your thoughts to others and stick to a script.go ahead, tell me why you think im wrong, ive got all day.
>>534842970People who use AI stop thinking. This is the last step in their quest to completely wipe our minds free of all independent thought.
>>534845260>>534845288I don't hold grudges regardless.>>534845357Humans are captured completely by mammon. It's genetically ingrained in us. Only the most retarded of us buck that trend, which tells me intelligence is actually a destructive trait.
Its just another thing they don't give a damn about, they just want to belong to something.
>>534845449You're really asking me why I believe they wouldn't use the surveillance apparatus to benefit themselves? Is it your first day on earth? They always make claims that they will or won't do something in order to get people to approve it. Then, once it's been approved and built, do the exact thing they said they wouldn't. It has happened repeatedly and will continue to happen. You really trust them to keep it on the up and up?
>>534843386I can almost buy that. Setting up a data center in bumfuck rural America that causes utility price surges and outages sounds utterly delusional. Without security that shit would not survive a year. Someone would burn it to the ground or take potshots at anything exposed with a silenced rifle 300m away. That's what should happen anyway.
>>534845451>This is the last step in their quest to completely wipe our minds free of all independent thought.Naw. They just want to get rid of the largest expense on most companies' expense line: people's salaries. Get rid of human and replaces with AI = higher margins.
>>534845447>biden didnt cover for illegals every single way possible.>he definitely incentivize their arrival via welcoming rhetoric, and he certainly didnt fly them into and disperse them amongst our urban centers, nor did he call people who disagreed with this xenophobesyoure engaging in pure, naked leftist shilling at this point. you deal in complete inversions of reality, because everything that is real attritiously degrades the world view you have and makes it a ridiculous farce to anyone with half a brain. also, even if "he didnt", it would be so because he's a poorfag by comparison. biden has no commercial empires.
Better question is, why don't right-wingers hate AI as much?They all know it's just a tool for mass surveillance, but at worse they support mass surveillance and at best they're just completely withdrawn ("we already lost guys, it's over, there's no point in resisting the AI overlords, just give up!")I'm starting to think the trannies were right about the entire right-wing internet sphere just being a tool used by the Epstein class to push their agenda forward, if they weren't they would more openly oppose this obvious push for mass surveillance, but not a single peep.Many of them even fully support things like digital ID, despite so-called Christians spending years going on and on about "the mark of the beast."
>>534842797a broken clock is right twice a day
>>534845557Kamala objectively would have been less bad than Trump is right now. Everything they doomsaid would happen under Dems has happened under Trump. Biden / Kamala didn't get into another forever war with Iran in four (4) years so there was good reason to believe that would have continued
>>534843386Maybe they should ask their AI powered superduper computers what's a infrared camera ...
>>534845557>You're really asking me why I believe they wouldn't use the surveillance apparatus to benefit themselves?i asked you why do you think im wrong. the only thing youre capable of doing is answering questions with more questions, because youre a subversive, manipulative troon-pilled niggerlover.
>>534845720I think a lot of right wingers do hate data centers. It's just that the ones in power are incredibly easy to buy.
>>534845791Read the rest of what I said, shill. They constantly sell ideas to the public then change their tune once they're built and there's no going back. It happens all the time. There's no fucking way the surveillance state won't be misused. And even if it isn't immediately misused, the changing of the guard brings in entirely new people to misuse it. The only solution is to never let them have the tools to misuse in the first place.
>>534845720>>534844588>The Gramscian march of the culturally relevant institutions has occurred over the last couple of decades, meaning the Communists and Commie-adjacents now control most of academia, the intellectual newspapers (truly an oxymoron these days), the media, etc.The right-wing doesn't control the media. You might find them complaining about AI on here or X.
>>534845710>biden has no commercial empires.yeah that's why biden never personally stepped in to elevate illegals clean his commercial empire and that's a good thing retard
>>534845796I dunno man, a lot of right-wing Christians seem to be all-in on digital ID to "protect the kids," and not even just on the internet, I see them pull that shit in real life completely divorced from anything online.It's very odd.
>>534845767Yeah, maybe. Who knows? Maybe it would be even worse but in a different way. One thing is for sure, none of them represent us.
>>534845415>Because we were lied toIf you spent more than 5 minutes looking past his orange cock you might have realized he was a conman from the outset. I never got anyone who said that "we need a businessman in the white house!" when he's trashed and screwed damn near every business he's attempted.
>>534845935Pastors are also people in power. They get their weekly dose of propaganda every sunday. They literally call themselves a flock, and for good reason. They're all sheep.
>>534845915But I see WAAAY more pro-AI right-wing fags here and on Twatter than I do anywhere else, they spam their AIslop memes like they're the second coming and have no problem with data centers.Hell, in a thread like >>534843348 you can even see right-wingers saying they love data centers because it makes them richer.
>>534845973You do realize he had a term before this where he acted fairly decently, right? Or are you too young to remember it? No one could've expected him to chimp out like he did.
>>534846010That is true, but I guess I just expected more, all these people who spent years going on about the new world order, the surveillance state, small government, etc. etc. etc. all just became shills for this obvious tool of the big surveillance state new world order.
>>534845946>One thing is for sure, none of them represent us.progressives understand that they don't and that voting is a choice between the lesser of two evils based on objective fact
>>534842917Lights are off. But they are GPUs with RGB lights
>>534846017Yeah, that's because a lot of right-wing or right-wing adjacent (like myself) have libertarian leaning tendencies and believe in capitalism. The people who complain are mostly the poorfags and idiots that worry about their jobs. People who are mentally resilient and not idiots will pivot to industries that AI cannot do.
>>534846251Wrong. Progressivism is, by definition, working to change systems that were already working. Conservatives are the lesser evil of they actually acted like it.
>>534842917they're afraid gamers will rise up and raid them for ram and gpu's
>>534846286Okay, so you actually DO like the surveillance state, you just want a capitalist surveillance state that will...do what exactly?
>>534846425>Conservatives are the lesser evil>meanwhile Trump is going to go down in history as the worst president ever next to Bush and Nixonoookay
>>534842917it wouldnt need to be but unfortunately security risks posed by leftists
>>534842917Because it's fucking bullshit but your grandma will believe it because she's seen the glowing lights on her router before.
>>534846488your TDS fantasies aren't reality
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>>534843109>>534843838Except it's not leftists who are importing immigrants; it's right wing capitalists.
>>534842797> constant glow> constant noise> taking all the water and powerWah! Wah! Wah!You fuckers are always complaining! We're not even at the disassemble-the-earth stage and you're already complaining! Get a grip...Call me when the first arcsecond of matrioshka swarm is completed after the final consumption of mercury, chump
>>5348427971pbtid
>>534842917It's only natural when so many glownigger pilpul machines are crammed into a small place.
>>534846450>so you actually DO like the surveillance stateWe already live in a surveillance state. AI is not exactly changing that.>that will...do what exactly?Improve productivity. Remove the bullshit jobs. This will, in the long run, improve living standards like all tech that improved productivity. The transition will not be easy, but I am confident that humanity will eventually figure it out. You cannot just say block AI because other countries will continue. The transition may take time and be painful, but it's inevitable. Let’s just get through it.
>>534846831>We already live in a surveillance state. AI is not exactly changing that.Right, this is the right-wing talking point I brought up in my original post>>534845720>"we already lost guys, it's over, there's no point in resisting the AI overlords, just give up!">Improve productivityWho cares about how productive you are if the product you're making is shit?Basically, what I'm gleaning from your posts is that, yes, right-wingers love data centers and AI and want to increase the power of the surveillance state because they believe they will enrich themselves.Which, I guess is something I already kind of suspected anyways.
>>534846488How is trump a conservative?
>>534842797Good now texas can catch all the tweakers in the dark
>>534845720Right wingers do whatever the billionaire class tells them to do and then call anything they don't like 'leftism' or 'communism'.
>>534843838>They are right about litterally everything except immigration and trannys.You retarded pajeet, left niggers are right about zionism (but not kikery in general), corporations (only because whitey bad), protecting the environment, a few other things BUT their solution is always and inevitably to GIVE MORE POWER TO THE HECKIN GOOD BOY GOVERNMENT SO THEY CAN FIX ITDo you see the issue? They're like the rightoid golem who are also right about 90% of things but also jewed beyond belief in their solution to VOOOTE HARDER
Texasian here. I don't my the light. I sleep well knowing leftists crying over it.
>>534846939>Who cares about how productive you are if the product you're making is shit?Product is fine. I've used it. Helps w/ coding and can do most of the paper pushing white collar work that a lot of idiots do. >they believe they will enrich themselves.Yeah not shit. I like the future where legal and accounting advice is free or mostly free. Where the USA is making shit again because that the only type of job around because the retarded white collar jobs like the one shown in the Office are gone. It's either Uptopia or humanity dies. Don't really care either way. Bet the AI is better goverance than most human anyway.
>>534842797Vampire's hate the light
>>534847135Texas and Canada now = stinking jamboy jeetDie in a flood you nigger
>>534847159>Product is fine.It doesn't make money based on how much investment has been dumped into it, so objectively it is shit from a capitalist perspective.>It's either Uptopia or humanity dies. Don't really care either way.So you're saying that being right-wing is basically just being part of a death cult?Interesting perspective.
>>534846664it's hilarious that you kikes got permission from your rabbis to use yourselves as an insult
>>534847245>So you're saying that being right-wing is basically just being part of a death cult?Nope. That more me than right-wing. I want to see exiting future and if that means a next stage of evolution takes over. So be it.
>>534847340>Nope. That more me than right-wing. I want to see exiting futureAre you an ESL or something?Why do you type like this?
>>534847084Those are who I call "Fake Right"... like they don't know what being right-wing means, so they just go along with what Fox News tells them to do.
>>534847245>It doesn't make money based on how much investment has been dumped into it, so objectively it is shit from a capitalist perspective.Same story with the rail roads and the internet. Never said financially this was good idea for investors. Basically, investors pull forward the value these technologies will generate too far into the present. Doesn't mean that these technologies didn't change the world and entire economies.
>>534842797Am I the only one who has priced that "light pollution" in atmosphere is completely different now. A few flood lights lighting up a school causes the sky above it to glow for miles. And even way out in the middle of absolute nowhere, you can barely see any stars. As a kid I remember going just 20 miles outside of a city and being able to see the Milky Way but now the sky is always glowing. Changed basically same timeframe the sun changed colors and went from yellow to harsh white
>>534847379I am not really proofreading my 4chan posts, and I have a tendency to think much faster than I can type, so I miss words.
>>534847444AI is never going to be as big or useful as the internet or railroads since half of the appeal is "remove significant portions of the economy to save money."Railroads improved transportation and the internet improved the speed of communication.AI as it stands is mostly just going to improve surveillance and automated weapons, which isn't a net benefit for society unless you're in a death cult, which I guess you've already admitted you are.
>>534846488Nixon did nothing wrong.
>>534847550Be honest anon, are you drunk?You seem like the type to be drunk on a Sunday evening based on your posts.
>>534847565your seething is pathetic
>>534847528space is fake
>>534847336
>>534845605We have drones now anon.It's only going to be a matter of time before people realize you can load a large one up with thermite and destroy pretty much any building capable of catching fire from the next state over.
Why doesn't China have data centers like this? Seems like they are doing fine without it yet their AI shit is even better than USslop
>>534847644not an argument
>>534847664>a jewish company tries to associate the president with jewsyou don't say
>>534842797Remember sodium lamps?Remember directed lighting?
>>534847709I don't engage in pilpul sorry kike
>>534842917White LEDs
>>534847724
>>534843520They're stupid.
>>534847791Correct response: Mirrors are too expensive!(they aren't)That said, your response IS amusing.
>>534842797a walmart parking lot would do the same thing. these fucking boomers are retarded.
>>534842797>af postkys retard.
>>534847910>this is a counterpoint!This is not a counterpoint. You have successfully agreed with the point of OP. Congratulations, retard.
>>534842797Because they are troons!MAGA!
>>534847985you babboon nigger gorilla ape, im talking about the tweet you absolute negro brain
>>534842917It's probably a construction site still. I seriously doubt that's a complete and functioning datacenter with full exterior illumination and zero shading on any of the bulbs.
>>534847596No. I don't drink alcohol, Even if your argument about surveillance capitalism was true, what are you specifically going to do about it? I think the best possible outcome is with enough input from the public, the AIs are trained with some human-affirming policy network. However, how does one ensure that? In general, I think no one is necessarily qualified to create such a policy/constitution, so I think companies trying many different strategies with minimal oversight is likely to result in an optimal exploration of possibility space.So either get on board and make money through investments and skill at using AI or get replaced like the spinsters who made clothes by hand before the Industrial Revolution.
>>534847692It's not really better. It's close and mostly it's close because they are distilling US models.
>>534848106>Even if your argument about surveillance capitalism was true, what are you specifically going to do about it?Advocate for class warfare of course.If your politics are "I'm in a death cult" then I don't see why I shouldn't just advocate for a counter death cult.
>>534843386we will see many luigis in our lifetime
>>534848226for data centers, not humans.
>>534844199
>>534848023>a walmart would do the same thing!>I don't understand how both things can be bad, obviously walmart is fine, right?Look, man, all you needed to do was think. That's it.If bad thing bad, is bad thing bad in other situation too? The answer is not and never will be no.Bad thing bad because bad thing bad. Nothing further.Does this fucking help.
I'm right wing and I'm against AI development (in the west) because it will make the leftoid filled West competitive with China and Russia (my future home). So I want the left to win so the West can lose and authoritarianism can win. The Chinese and Russians will carry the torch of civilization forward.
>>534848263I think youre just a dumb gorilla nigger redditor who is lost on 4chan.
>>534848218>Advocate for class warfare of course.I see now. You’re a Commie. A lot things make more sense now.
>>534847565Its replacing a lot of female jobs (the actual reason you and most leftoids seethe), so its doing something good.
>>534848276But I thought the USA military was le 80 years ahead in le future. Why do we need to compete this hard with China if this isn't going to really give us an edge? Could it be that United States dogs are not so advanced and it's all a lie?
>>534848276>Russia (my future home).Why are you moving there? For the babes?
>>534848333Nah, I'm more of a center libertarian who leans left economically and right socially, but if you're literally saying "I am in a rich death cult and I believe that we should kill everyone who is not rich like me" then as someone who's not rich, that tells me that I need to join up with people who are also not rich and kill you.There is no other alternative, you yourself stated as much.
>>534848263>all you had to do was think>>534848447>I'm more of a center libertarian who leans left economically and right socially
>>534848312>you lost because I don't understand that 1 = 1Yes. That is precisely what happened here.
>>534848488see>>534848482
>>534848339I have no problem with women losing their jobs, they shouldn't have them to begin with, but if you're advocating for killing me, I see no reason not to advocate for killing you.
>>534848447>he's developing class consciousness>he's realizing the rich are going to kill him when he's no longer useful as a slave
>>534848543Yes, this whole AI thing has honestly done more to make me "a commie" than any commie propaganda bullshit over the last 30 years.They're just openly saying they want me dead, so I want them dead.It's that simple.There's no reasoning with someone who openly says they want to kill you.
>he's realizing many of the rich are Jewish, and hate him and the rest of humanityUH OH
>>534848509>I hate light pollution>but whatabout walmartHanded: Yes. buttonStatus: screechingWhat in the fuck are you doing.
>>534848745who gives a fuck about light pollution, im not some faggot
>>534848398Of course the West's technical superiority is a lie. Did you really believe that a society that prioritizes female comfort and wellbeing above actual results would lead to anything different? The West is behind China in certain areas.>>534848435I'm moving to eastern Russia to take advantage of the massive economic growth in that region due to the oil business (another industry leftoids are trying to kill in there crusade against civilization). Hapa chicks are a bonus.>>534848513The destruction of female labor power would be a boon to civilization, but I doubt you are actually for this (most leftoids wouldn't dare upset the gynarchy that runs them). As far as killing you, yeah I guess that would be fair. But the side I'm joining is stronger than yours, so good luck.
>>534842797I'd rather have dark skies than "ai".the skies have been kiked for decades and most people don't know what a real might sky looks like.it was a talking point 25 years ago, but it's telling that no one seems to even discuss it anymore. simply because no one remembers what dark or stars is like.ai dogshit should be built underground so it isn't seen and should also be self enclosed, without ruining the surrounding area. there's no reason for it to take up all that land etc, apart from coin shaving as usual.
>>534848226The amerigoyim won't do shit. You are fully domesticated, sociopathic golems.
>>534848805Yes, you are.As evidenced by the statement you just made in the same fucking post. Go the fuck back to your shitpile.
>>534842797A lot of the leftists artists I have seen are angry that no one will by their degenerate art anymore because it can be made with AI faster, and likely cheaper.
>>534848276why would you go to places that were already jewed and commied a century ago
>>534842797go see what's over there, and ask nicely as you set of explosives. "what's going on over here!?'
>>534848908Don't worry too much. Europe is barely even in the AI race as they are too busy regulating bottle caps.
>>534848828>But the side I'm joining is stronger than yours, so good luck.Genuine question. How are you emigrating to Russia? Are they letting in immigrants from the USA?
>>534848908I thought Europe wasn't advanced enough to have datacenters?>>534849112Depends on if I want to go the cheap way or the expensive way. Expensive way (investment visa) is more flexible, which will work with my plan to get another citizenship (like a Caribbean one for tax benefits). The cheap way is the shared values visa, which anybody from the west who hates globohomo can take.Not planning on leaving till I have enough gold. Got to loot while you can, you know?
>>534849303>Got to loot while you can, you know?I get it. It's good to have options. Seems like fiat collapse is coming soon (within the next 15 years max).
>>534848918We're going to raise awareness. The first step in activating the immune system is awareness.
>>534842917Based off the Crane i assume it's under construction.
Mao Zedong called this "Consciousness Raising", and it terrified the CIA.
>>534843386no they aren'tT. security manager at a Data center in Texas
>>534842797It’s not just left wingers but right wingers too. Only capitalists like AI and you cannot be a capitalist and a right winger. The two are mutually exclusive. It’s only retarded americans who think you can be a capitalist and a right winger because tricked them into thinking so
>>534849691Jews tricked them*
>>534849493>>534849544Mao Zedong was an ideologue who destroyed China, much like Lenin destroyed Russia. It was only through the brilliance of Deng (Stalin in Russia's case) that China is the giant that it is today.All you will end up doing is pushing data centers to countries that are not filled with weak cuckolds that hold back progress due to guilt, just like you did with manufacturing.
>>534842797Tell those needs to turn off the lights. Electricity isn't free yah know?!
>>534842797Hmm let's seeCons of data centers:>more surveillance>more expensive electricity>water shortages>Being funded by taxpayer money/subsidies>light pollution>noise>home computers are more expensivePros of data centers:>noneEven if you're a lover of AI memes and porn, these public models are so censored that you can't generate what you really want with them. Local AI is still the best for generating "controversial" stuff, and local AI is only made more expensive by these data centers buying up the global supply of chips and RAM.Literally nobody who isn't some top 0.001% billionaire should be in favor of data centers. They provide zero benefit to you. None.
>>534843226Based werewolf.
>>534849691>you cannot be a capitalist and a right winger.Least retarded Britbong.
>>534849544Haven’t you Commie fags ruined enough nations and killed enough people through your retarded incompetence? Why don’t you apply the Commie logic first to your country, Canada, and tell us how it goes? Oh wait, you already did. No country is even more of a bitch to stronger capitalist nations like the USA.
>>534843386Enough people with guns would do some damage. Rural folx (kek) don't tolerate the intolerable
>>534849909Pros of data centers:>Making leftists and trannies seethe
>>534850011He's right. Capitalists will gladly sell out the demographics, culture and soul of their nation to make a quick buck. Hitler wasn't a capitalist. None of the far right figures of history were capitalist. Capitalism is an inherently liberal ideology.
>>534849909>Even if you're a lover of AI memes and porn, these public models are so censored that you can't generate what you really want with themThis isn't really the fault of the AI though. Just the fault of being in the west. I agree on the local AI part, and the nice thing is that all of these corporate AI chips will flood the market in like 3 to 4 years as the new models become available.AI is something you need to think long term about, like manufacturing or dirty industries. The same environmental arguments people are using against AI right now were the same ones that deindustrialized the west in the 70s, 80s and 90s. The surveillance arguments are valid, but you already have a 24/7 listening device in your pocket. All that will happen is that Palantir will offshore their compute to Russia and China. The fact that nobody here is making this connection is why the west is done.
>>534842797>Why do leftists hate AI so much?Why do jeets love AI so much?
>>534842797Why does it need to be lit up? Why domt they make it dark?
>>534842797Because it's literally taking their jobs
>>534842797They dont understand itThey think its a chatbot that will make everyone retarded
>>534842917Data centers are full of glowies
>>534850213That's exactly what LLMs are and have been doing.
Got what I voted for awardYou lost, tranny
>>534842797Just turn the outside lights off except at entrances and exits.
>if you don't want to be surveilled by the largest dragnet ever devised and controlled by the cabal, and is slurping up every spare watt of energy it can, then you're a lefty chudoid
>>534842917>what are blinkenlampsDo you even operate (computers)?
>>534850136The difference is the industry we had actually produced things of tangible value and posted profits. They also created jobs instead of slating themselves to take jobs away. I also don't recall those industries sucking up water and energy supply like locusts.
>>534842797The same thing happens with a regular ass Amazon warehouse. Light pollution sucks but data centers bad isn't the answer.
>>534850076You're literally a living meme and a joke of a person if you hold this sentiment unironically>>534850136>you already have a 24/7 listening device in your pocketI don't. I was never the type of normie who accepted that shit. There was always a subset of the population who refused to go along with the self-surveillance drag net. Now they are removing all avenues for people to escape from it. You can be a monk who has zero electronic devices and never connects to the internet - Palantir will still know everything about you. THIS is what's destroying the West. The West is supposed to be a land where people have a right to privacy. Without privacy, you have no freedom. He who controls the panopticon controls the world. If you take our basic rights away, there's nothing worth salvaging about the West. We might as well just surrender to China and Russia because they will treat us the same as our current ruling class.
>>534850386So then why are rightoids so in favor of AI?
Less than a thousand people live in Crowell, who gives a flying fuck?
>>534850386How would banning new datacenter construction in the west prevent Palantir from computing in China and selling it to western governments? Or to put it another way, how does shutting down refineries in Australia and importing refined gasoline and diesel from abroad to resell to regular people help fight climate change?>>534850395Missing the point buddy. How does stopping data center construction in the west stop data center construction in China? And what stops western companies from buying compute in China to resell to westerners, much like how western companies like Walmart resell Chinese shit to you for 5x what they paid?
>>534850649Probably the people living in Crowell.
how does light pollution pose a serious problem?
>>534850697It's called blackout curtains
>>534850395Do you have any idea how many jobs the steam engine cost
>>534850652You're the one who's missing the point. The data centers are fucking up daily life for people who live around them. Move the data centers to China, and people here don't have to deal with water/electricity shortages in their hometowns.Nobody here benefits from data centers being constructed on our soil. The wealth from the techno-oligarch class does not "trickle down" or whatever the fuck narrative you're trying to shill to us.
>>534850571As you understand, its not about what you accepted that or not. Its what the other 99.99% of people accepted. And while I do sympathize about your right to privacy, you need to understand that privacy doesn't really exist in a world where you can be watched 24/7. The best defense against what you are alluding to is not privacy (which is impossible) but by making the cost of destroying you too great. This is what actual defense is and why arms should be freely available. One of the few reasons why I'm a bit apprehensive about Russia is their gun laws, but I feel that in the Far East, things might be more lax/flexible due to sparse population.
>>534850652>How would banning new datacenter construction in the west prevent Palantir from computing in China and selling it to western governments?Why not just ban Palantir from spying on the populace?
>>534850966>>As you understand, its not about what you accepted that or not. Its what the other 99.99% of people accepted.Acting like 99.99% of people are in favor of this AI shit is completely disingenuous.There is nothing worth salvaging about the west anymore. It's completely done. Everything that made it great is over. It can be bulldozed and taken over by chinks, for all anyone who gives a fuck about western values will care.>privacy doesn't really exist in a world where you can be watched 24/7. Again, another misnomer. No single entity can watch you 24/7 except for your own government, which has special tools available for doing so. They're not supposed to be doing this. The fact that our governments are spying on their own populations is an indication that our governments are treasonous and have turned hostile against their own populations. So, again, let China take over. The West is already just as bad, soon to be worse than it. We get all the surveillance, the misery, the lack of freedom without any of the glittering new megacities and booming economic growth to show for it. Fuck the west. It deserves to die. Our governments were supposed to protect us from these evil corporations who sought to abuse us, not suck up and give into them. Fuck the west. It's already dead.
>>534850848>You're the one who's missing the point.Am I now?>The data centers are fucking up daily life for people who live around them.So do refineries, mines, smelters, paper mills, power plants (nuke and fossil fuel), chemical plants, plastic plants, etc. Does this mean that we now need to get rid of (offshore) this industry because it benefits the owners of these industries and it hurts the people who live and work around them? There are some leftoid countries in Europe that have done exactly that. What's happening to them right now?>but data centers don't provide anythingThey increase productivity. There is a reason why China is building them, and if a better run civilization like China is doing it, then we should probably be doing it too.>move the data centers to ChinaSo now we've established that the problem you have isn't really with AI, but with where the AI is. The lazy girl jobs will still be replaced, even if the data center is in Shenzhen instead of Nowhere, OK.>The wealth from the techno-oligarch class does not "trickle down" or whatever the fuck narrative you're trying to shill to us.Doesn't change anything I've mentioned.
>>534842797There's no reason for a data center to be lit up like a stadium unless it's temporary because it's still under construction and this is a misleading nothing burger shit post.
>>534851254>Acting like 99.99% of people are in favor of this AI shit is completely disingenuous.I didn't say they were in favor of AI, just in favor of mass surveillance in exchange for convenience. The end result is roughly the same.>No single entity can watch you 24/7 except for your own government, which has special tools available for doing so. They're not supposed to be doing this. The fact that our governments are spying on their own populations is an indication that our governments are treasonous and have turned hostile against their own populations.We are in agreement, hence why Palantir doing this is not some earth shattering thing. The only real defense against this is a good offense, if you will. One of the only redeeming things about the US is its gun policy (which leftoids hate).
>>534851337All jews like you need to be expelled from western countries, first and foremost. We're all sick of you fucking kikes ruining every single good thing about the west.>Here's why being flooded with third world immigrants, losing your privacy and your job is actually a GOOD thing! Just think of all the jewish shareholders who will profit big from it! None of them would be profiting if all that money went to China, you know! Hitler was right about all of you. Go fuck off to China and build your data centers and spy networks there, see if any of us give a fuck. We really won't. Your shitty, unprofitable AI companies are not as essential to the future of the west as you're trying to shill them out to be. >>534851633>One of the only redeeming things about the US is its gun policy (which leftoids hate).This policy is useless if people don't utilize it to remove you from our lands
>>534843419Texas isn't a monolith
>>534851739>he can't disprove what I am saying>he thinks I am a jewkek>Go fuck off to China and build your data centers and spy networks there, see if any of us give a fuck. We really won't. Your shitty, unprofitable AI companies are not as essential to the future of the west as you're trying to shill them out to be.I'm sure something similar was said about the internet and digital technologies back in the day. Luckily smarter people prevailed and the west led the world in digital communications for 30 years. You sound like Krugman when he talked about the internet.>This policy is useless if people don't utilize it to remove you from our landsI mean, you could easily start if you wanted to. The problem is that you can't even identify actual enemies (you are accusing me of being a kike). Good luck with your endeavors.
>>5348427971. Loads of typical leftwing jobs (being an artist, writer, film industry, being some black woman DEI lady in HR, other bullshit white collar work) are immediately on the chopping block2. Despite the relative number of blocks put in plenty of AI cuts through woke bullshit arguments very easily and is pretty racist3. AI companies are big and big companies are bad4. Data centers use energy and water and that's basically sinful unless it's used to power abortion plants and immigration dispersal stations.
>>534851337>So do refineries, mines, smelters, paper mills, power plants (nuke and fossil fuel), chemical plants, plastic plants, etcAll of these create thousands of jobs for their local towns. Power plants, chemical plants etc. are often the economic entire life blood of the town they're built in.Not so for data centers. They work fundamentally differently. Each data center needs 10 people working in it, max. It doesn't provide jobs to the local area like these other things do. So build it here, or there - it really makes zero difference for the local economy. In fact, it's better from the local standpoint to build it somewhere else. That's what makes data centers different from every single other thing that you listed.
Liberals hate all progress. If they have their way then humanity will be reduced to a few shitskins squatting in the ruins of civilization.
>>534844433AI datacenter is more toxic than refinery peak leftoids clown world circle
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been nothing short of a disaster for the human race.All this harping about "muh steam engine, therefore be prepared to die so that AI can take over" only confirms this.
>>534845720>They all know it's just a tool for mass surveillance, but at worse they support mass surveillance and at best they're just completely withdrawnyou forgot about third position >Sun is a God and soon it will kill all your technological AI bulshit it happens before...some people just knew
>>534852213>All of these create thousands of jobs for their local towns. Power plants, chemical plants etc. are often the economic entire life blood of the town they're built in.Sure. Locomotives only employed a few people as well, and they displaced a lot of wagon and carriage drivers.>Not so for data centers. They work fundamentally differently. Each data center needs 10 people working in it, max. It doesn't provide jobs to the local area like these other things do.True. But the data center makes all knowledge work in the nation more efficient. This undoubtedly saves time and money, much like steam engines did. The locomotive could move the weight of 1000 wagon trains, but it only employed a few men to run the engine. I'm sure the wagon drivers were mad, but what wealth did that increase in productivity unlock long term? AI is a 50 to 100 year capital intensive project, like trains, pipelines, dams and other infrastructure.>So build it here, or there - it really makes zero difference for the local economy. In fact, it's better from the local standpoint to build it somewhere else. That's what makes data centers different from every single other thing that you listed.Yes and no. You can technically build an oil refinery in a nation like China and import your refined fuels. What happens when China cuts off access or their is a supply shock? What happens to the local economy? Data centers are similar. You can route your data via undersea cables to China and back again. What happens if China cuts access? You've lost access to technology that can improve your production, which might be necessary in attrition warfare or computing large problems. You can say that the data center is not as immediately necessary as a steel mill or refinery, and I'd agree with this. But this is not something that we should be trusting an adversary with having 100% or even 70% control over. We do this now with rare earths, and it is fucking usYou see where I am going with this, right?
>>534852580The industrial revolution wasn't even what changed humanity. If Ted was consistent, he would apply his ideology to agriculture too, which was arguably far more impactful than industrialization. The only proper form of human life is to live as a nomadic bush nigger and die of infection at 38.
>>534845451People never had any brain to begin with. You all just download information from media that tell you to believe that you can magically turn into a woman if you cut off your penis.
>>534842917Everyone knows computers need RGB lighting to function properly
>>534842797Libs cry about progress if there was a problem with Data centres Trump would do something about it
>>534854050>Libs crymigger
>>534842797>Why do leftists hate things that make the world worse?
>>534844444
>>534854079Only leftists, shitskins, and Muslims are anti-Jew/Israel.
>>534853003Agriculture brought the promise of life to billions of people.AI niggetry brings the promise of death.You niggers are literally bragging about how you're going to kill off 90% of humanity. That is what makes you different from every other harbinger of technological progress up until this point.
>>534854348>Only leftists, shitskins, and Muslims are anti-Jew/Israel.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>534843729>they got armed guardsyes.>>534845767maybe that's because it doesn't matter who you vote for and you're all a bunch of retards in a 1pbtid d&c kike thread and AI will only hasten your enslavement and datacenters will increase the cost of water, lead to water rationing (can only water on certain days of the week or fined, excessive water use in your house will end in a fine) continued violation and your water will be shut off entirely. Increased power costs. I have lived near data centers and bitcoin farms.
>>534843386provide the location of your nearest data center.I have the right, cheap & very popular solution to all your problems...
>>534854195Because they're evil.
>>534855008It's evil to hate things that enshittify everything?
>>534855809Anything leftists say or do is evil, yes.
>>534850035Project 2025 is already doing that for America. No left wing necessary.
>>534843386Somebody will killdozer them eventually. There is only so much ram available
>>534845605Would be cheaper just to have NV cameras or thermals and have normal amount of lights if any. There's no way lighting up millions of lumens every month like that is cheaper than a dozen thermal and/or NV cameras
>>534845796Unfortunately it would mean they agree with leftists as something, and since every single societal aspect is either "Right" or "Left" they don't want to go against what they already chose as their label.Its the same thing on the left, but it's one of the reasons even obviously bad things for society aren't remedied.
>>534842797because they will lose their cushy office jobs
>>534842797>Light pollution
>>534842941>the CEO of the country is not allowed to set policyAre you retarded?