This is literally what’s happening right nowKarl Marx was right about everything
>>534847169The white race, through its own struggles and conditions of existence, will necessarily develop its race consciousness and inevitably overthrow the Jews - without requiring the leadership of self-appointed right-wing influencers.
>>534847169No, it's not, you worthless commie faggot. You won't do shit, because you're fucking useless. If you weren't useless you wouldn't be a thieving commie to begin with.
>>534847371Why are you so angry? Were you bullied as a child? Why do you defend the billionaire class that hates you and sees you as less than human? You cuck.
>>534847355Capitalists had no issue exploiting poor whites before the dominance of Jews in finance and media
>>534847169there is no working class though, thats a century old proscription of what at the time was barely even a real thingmarx was a dialectical propagandist and a hack on an economistif you want to deal in real politik on todays economy, you address the fact that our gulf of america oil traders have pocketed inflation in stride whilst large scale farmers have pulled out of the markets they already cornered
>>534847447>Why are you so angry?I hate thieves like you more than any group on this planet. >muh billionaires But, it's not just billionaires. You worthless sacks of shit want to steal from everyone. People who spent years building a business and you want to steal it. Because, you're fucking evil and worthless, and that's all evil like you can do, take and destroy.
>>534847169As material conditions worsen, the incentives that maintain coordinated social order weaken. Individuals increasingly deviate from prescribed behaviors in unpredictable ways. This expansion of possible behavioral states resembles rising entropy in a complex system. When enough micro-level defections accumulate, the system may lose the capacity to maintain order and collapse, even without a centralized revolutionary movement.Capitalists are trying to suppress and reverse social entropy through surveillance and media manipulation, but naturally, it's impossible. And the harder they push back, the harder the it will blow up in their face.
>>534847169>What is a jewish owned central bank?
>>534847639You're just placing arbitrary restrictions on what is White or what is Jewish in order to satisfy your preconceived notions. There are class traitors in the Marx design just as there are race traitors in Anon's.
>>534847824In other words, it's inevitable.So much for kike's intelligence.
>>534847742> I hate thieves like you more than any group on this planet.What do you consider as “thievery”, and why am I a thief, according to you?> But, it's not just billionaires. You worthless sacks of shit want to steal from everyoneAgain, why am I a thief?> People who spent years building a business and you want to steal itIs this what socialism is to you? Because to me it’s completely different. In a socialist society, Small businesses owners will not just be protected but encouraged. It is the rich billionaires who don’t wan this. They use predatory tactics to eliminate any competition including hard working families.
>>534848013this is how germans justify getting rolled by napoleon, never having an enlightenment revolution, and being the flashpoint of the ashkenazi problem
>>5348471692 more weeks!
>>534847169is this going to happen after local population will be replaced with dirty pajeets or before that?
>posting in your own slide thread
>>534847169>trusting a freeloader and free mason
>>534847355
>>534847169>some jobless jew from the 19th century talking about the "working class"
>>534847447you cock-slob for mega corporations and governments while trying to pin their sins on a few autistic sperg-lords who do a better job at managing their cash than any of the them
>>534848131When someone spends their time creating something of value, then they find someone to give them money for the thing they created, that's called free trade. When you, someone who had nothing to do with creating the thing of value, show up and demand part of the profits for yourself, that makes you a thief. None of your jewish schizo ramblings will change the fact you are a thieving peice of shit trying to take from those who create. You are evil, you are a parasite, you are brainwashed by kikes, you are a thief, and just an all around shit human being.
>>534847169Most marxists are upper-class and college educated, working class people are developing race consciousness if anything.Working class people in the west don't live bad lives and most of their problems are caused by the left trying to force gay shit in schools and flood the country with niggers. If North America and EU were 100% white it would be a paradise
>>534847169>>534847169Conscious working class person here. Marx's own daughters killed themselves after trying to apply his life advice. Marxist intellectuals consistently mislead and make life worse for everyone except for a small group psychopathic Marxist oligarchs.
>>534847169The thing is how do you not understand what Stalin said about being a useful idiot? How are you so intelligent but you seem to ignorantly miss that little point everytime. You must think you are the one that will mindfuck everyone onto your side, hence why you are a stupid fucking useful idiot.
>>534847169The working class was forever decimated by the elite class throwing multiculturalism and wokist anti racism nonsense. The working class in America barely exists and millions go into the death cycle of homelessness and drug addiction, the fruits of globalism. Marx was a good critic of capitalism, but not much else. His alternative system has never worked and he's economically illiterate.
>>534847169Unfortunately for you there will be no revolution of the proletariat.
>>534848536Yeah ww1 and ww2 were such wonderful white paradises.
>>534848519> When someone spends their time creating something of value, then they find someone to give them money for the thing they created, that's called free trade. When you, someone who had nothing to do with creating the thing of value, show up and demand part of the profits for yourself, that makes you a thief.That’s not socialism. In socialism only the rich, far, hereditary capitalist pigs are punished.
>>534848818I don't want you stealing from anyone, you fucking nigger.
>>534848818Russia targeted the middle class for genocide. The slogan of many communist movements was "destroy the middle class", while the rich continued to exist in the background. Lenin himself lived in a giant mansion, immediately dropping any pretense of being one of the workers, and lived as luxuriously as the Tsar had been living before him.
>>534848818What prevents the definition of rich from being constantly watered down until owning a single cow is enough to send a person to a labor camp for the rest of their short life?
>>534847169>class becomes non existent as soon as everyone becomes cognizant of how the economy works this guy might have been a genius shyster
>>534848764What's your point? That if current europe was 100% white we would have another world war and only thing stopping it is importing niggers?You are retarded
>>534847169Karl marx was a rich person with banker uncle and his ideas were meant to undermine revolution not spread it. Bolshevik revolution was robbing of the russian poeple to pay wall street.
>>534848131>What do you consider as “thievery”, and why am I a thief, according to you?taking brilliant idea and hard work and giving shit in return, while others who don't do much get a lot in return for their not-much. people like you are entitled to moar shit worked by more capable others, "because I'm just special okay? and if I can't do the same you have to do for me"the problem is not the rich helping the poor, you mfs wanna block people from reaching past certain heights, which fucks with progress.>>534848131>Again, why am I a thief?because you feel you are entitled to someone else's work and genius. "gibs me dat and also not allowed to go too far"
>>534848818>no you don't understand goy the REAL version of communism I made up in my head would work for real if only I was in charge
>>534849022The blacks aren't as violent as europeans known for being usurers.
>>534849146You dont even know what capitalism is, why pretend you understand anything about communism
>>534849146they unironically think past a certain level you shouldn't be allowed to receive anything for your work. which means you have no incentive to do more. which means there's no more struggling for excellence. which means power must coerce whoever is capable into doing it. and it always becomes bleak as fuck.these people cannot even do simple logic. or maybe they can do the simplest of it. they always stop at "if I get gibs everything is fine dont' care"
>>534849213>jew memeflag>oy vey goy it was real in my mind
>>534849213The word capitalism is a made up strawman by thieving niggers like you who want to steal from productive people practicing free trade.
>>534848536yeah, we know, elites dividing working class with race bs was always elites game. Who is importing them here in the first place... Yeah, exactly.
>>534849372who indeed
>>534847169There's no such thing as class consciousness.
>>534849344Cause theyre smart>>534849356Americans are not productive. All you do is print USD at the expense of the rest of the world. > free tradeLmao
>>534849356capitalism leads to the polar opposite of free trade in reality
>>534847169Marx was a useless leech his entire life. All his ideas have proven to be failures many times over, but the parasite mind keeps trying to bring back the fantasy world he envisioned.
>>534849829Actually.. no. That is factually wrong.
>>534849866xe doesn't care, sounds good enough and fits xe's internal narrative
>>534849866Name one instance of free trade working
>>534847169Lennin and Mao kinda disagreed with that tho.
>>534847784The cornerstone of the Communist utopiaHow else would a command economy be implemented by the Party to the benefit of society?People way smarter than us will print fiat currency and invest it toward international betterment of humankind.
>>534849412elites, rich class. There are no rich jews in Lithuania, still rich lithuanians completely fucked up the country.
>>534847769Dis guy fucks
>>534849372Migrants were imported by leftists in the government due to ideological/moral reasons. Most people that support immigration and throwing welfare at niggers agree with Marx and support socialism. Anti-migrant socialist political parties do not existMost people that oppose imigration are right-wing and capitalist.
>>534847169>le capitaliststhey’re called jews. nobody gives a fuck about your economic system. tkd regardless you fucking goyim retard
>>534848650People are often very good at critisising stuff.Providing solutions is what people suck at.I dont assume that communism is even the goal of marxism tho, I believe world government is the real goal and communism being something that is never supposed to actually happen, just a dream to sell to the proles while they make a world government.
>>534847169jews are natural rebels/revolutionaries that overthrow naturally grown governements and nations. They finance those movements and instigate chaos and spread propaganda to set up their communist regime. That's what they do. Guess why revolutions are romanticized everywhere in our judeo-popculture. btw marx is doing the gay hidden hand gesture.
>>534850067Wrong. Most immigrants are brought in for economic reasons. Replacement migration was always justified in economic terms, and centrist and even conservative govs have never stopped the flow.
>>534850182the purpose of any human game is power, doesn't matter what color you are. if not you get wiped and it still ends up being power in the end.systems are a means not an end. they are cycles. one era ends another one begins. the human game will end when it spawns something greater than them, which will replace them.atm I don't think there is a solution or an out
>>534850361True.But communism has a lie baked into its core ideology.That the state will evapourate into nothing and then you will have real communism. But thats obviously a lie.
>>534847169That fat kike grifter obviously had no problem fleecing the proletariat.
>>534849866if you had your own business you would understand how fucking un-free the supposedly free market is almost every sector
Translation: dudes struggling with rent and bills are gonna blame the rich and vote for more taxes>not realizing the rich and the state are one and the same behind closed doors, and lefty politicians will just disarm the common joe
>>534847169Kill your self you filthy semite
>>534850502oh yeah I like talking shit I much more prefer free speech until we all go out. fuck it>That the state will evapourate into nothing and then you will have real communismbetter arguments were about AGI enforced communism but that's still retarded. for me it's just a patch after a patch after a patch and you end up with a clusterfuck that's quite visible in today's discourse around the whole ideology, pure nonsense and brainrot when you follow it. because some people really fell for it, and they think if they go one step further it will all eventually make sense. I think even real commies that are in power in certain commie countrys, that really understand what it's all about, are laughing their asses of. it's just another control system, that's it. you don't have to think much into it, you just have to believe what's on the surface and fall for it and that's it. it's a means of control and getting power, like everything else. the whole story is meant to be a carrot on a stick, a motivational factor, that cannot make sense applied to reality
>>534850675This is kinda like saying fascists are dumb because they support the state and the state's just going to disarm them. Neither a fascist nor a communist is expecting to enact their agenda with the CURRENT government in place in their country.
>>534850253Jews are NOT revels nor revolutionaries. They are subverters and parasites, pitting the locals against each other. “Permanent revolution” is a slimy subversion of the term, to exploit the natural vulnerabilities of young locals.
>>534850301Wrong. Migrants are bad for the economy, they take away from it more than they contribute, forcing higher taxes to sustain them. They also create low-trust society and business requires high trust society to function (Like when local grocery store gets burned down due to nigger race riots or goods have to get locked up behind shelves due to crime etc.).Migration was motivated only by ideology and then anyone who opposed it was painted as "nazi", "morally bad person". Every country in the west would be economically better off if it was 100% white."Conservatives" that don't take any action against migrants also support LGBT and other leftist shit, this "conservatives" would be considered leftists 20 years ago
>>534851077soon when AI robots take over everything all countries will want as few people as possible, every extra useless mouth is extra wasted resources and possible headaches.if anything an attack vector on other countries will be to send as many people as possible, which will stress their system while they themselves are running really light with a handful of population.things will soon flip, once AI robots hits the scene.
>>534850067no "leftists" imported any migrants you retard, progressive liberals were only used as a pillow/excuse talking point. The real reason was that nobody wanted to work shitty jobs ie capitalist companies didn't want to raise wages and had to increase profits. If you think it has anything to do with "we have to help the poor foreigner" you are as retarded as the so called "leftists".
>>534851077they are good for companies, they are bad for government but when government money is subsidizing cheap workers by providing housing for them from your paid taxes, companies are very happy and will give a big check next election to the candidate who will keep doing this bullshit. Jfc, being so blind.
>>534851760Name me a leftist or a leftist political party that opposes immigration and wants to keep the country white then?All leftists, including the most left-wing communist groups support migration. All opposition to immigration comes from the right-wing and you are delusional if you think otherwise
>>534850753Its one tactic to get a world government.See real communism aka the state disslolving is physically impossible if you have other states that exist, because then they can easily conquer you. So it has to be done on a global scale. So basically make a world government and then "it will all fade away" lol.
>>534852034there is no opposition to immigration, both sides are just capitalist. That was shown very well when brits did Brexit and Boris instead of decreasing immigration, increased it. Im not telling you who to vote for, im just telling how UK, France, Germany are already gone and eastern Europe will follow cause even though they can look at the examples and see their future they still don't understand what capitalism is.
>>534851077You can read the arguments here: https://www.un.org/development/desa/pd/sites/www.un.org.development.desa.pd/files/unpd-egm_200010_un_2001_replacementmigration.pdf20 yrs ago cons were supporting mass immigration. even 40 years ago Ronald Reagan was, and so was Brian Mulroney in Canada
>>534852302yes, elites will be creating communism, a system where corporations don't exist, because capitalism, a system where they control everything, is so bad for them. McCarthyism tier retardism.
>>534852442Capitalism and communism have the same end goal anon.One world government with all property centralised into the hands of the jew.Its merely a difference in tactics, not goals.
>>534852359well saidcapitalist circulation for those who don't know is: M->C->M' (representing Money—Commodities—Money-plus-profit) when money is advanced to purchase commodities, which are then sold for a higher amount. It is an endless cycle aimed at maximizing value (surplus value), driven by the pursuit of profit.
>>534852661good that you are parroting capitalist propaganda but reality is that communism is nothing more than a boogey man anymore while capitalism is ethnically cleansing Europe for the sake of shareholder profits. Because they made calculations and it's 10 cents cheaper to import an indian instead of letting you raise a child so people need to stop having kids and welcome all the new working age migrants cause that will save companies on labor.
>>534852683it seems so simple that it just cannot work but of course you can print more money and keep taking away with every inflation, more and more...
>>534852949if you complain about communist leadership you are taken on the side of the road and shot in the head, and any journo reporting on it faces the same.why would you play with that? for what reason? how is it worth it? I don't get it.also revolionaries are the first to face the wall, since they are drones assembled for a singular purpose, across many years, thus hard to deprogram and integrated into the system, they are unnecessary risk and they served their purpose.>>534852661>Capitalism and communism have the same end goal anon.it's simpler to say "systems of power control are interested in the same thing", which is absolute power, using any means necessary, each promising various things in the end, which are all basically lies, since power doesn't take risks in the end, just like commies are executing the revolutionaries after the work is done.
>>534852949They don't pay for pajeets education costs either. People wonder why western education is getting so awful, the reason is western workers get their education in India or some other shithole.
>>534853184 Capitalism is not a "system of power", its how the economy is organized. Its completely different than socialism and communism.
>>534852949>Capitalist propoganda is when you say that communism and capitalism fundementally have the same goal and you say both are shit.Retard.>>534853184Power does indeed always covet more power. I think its important to compare these two ideologies directly tho because ultimately its the same group behind both.If there was a third system that wanted power well at the very least there would be a different group coming to power. Ultimately the other similarity between capitalism and communism is that both exist to provide power specifically to the jews.A hostile power will always be worse than one who simply doesnt care about you.
>>534853345>its how the economy is organizedkek>>534853345>is not a "system of power"why tf am I even wasting my time
>>534847169Marx had some sound, practical advice.
>>534853184>if you complain about communist leadership you are taken on the side of the road and shot in the head, and any journo reporting on it faces the same.thats propaganda. I watched tv archive of 1980 lithuanian tv and there was plenty of criticism of the government. One I remember was full of sarcasm because some school got it's heating pipes exploded so kids stayed at home. The reporter said that government is trying to freeze kids to death and that they need to really step up their game. This wasn't a one off either, the problems were constantly shown on TV. Thing is, that you talk and repeat what is not true because you are fed propaganda. When you look at the facts they speak a different story.
>>534853416Capitalism is not an ideology you gay paki retard. Its how the english went from feudalism to industrialization. Communism claims to be the next step forward after Capitalism.Germany took things in the socialist direction to fuel their industrial rise, and china has too. Do you really think the difference between the soviet union and america was just that thought differently? Are you an idiot?
>>534847371based
>>534853494Just admit you dont know anything about economics you gay asshole.
>>534847447Making the billionaires into oligarchs won't make you less of a faggot.
>>534853416yes, that's called equalizing the things that are completely different to stay in the same shitty status quo. That's what actual abusers do in toxic relationships so you wouldn't leave him lol, you are literally gaslit yourself by the bullshit you believe that the system told you so the system itself would be more stable.
>>534853416>Ultimately the other similarity between capitalism and communism is that both exist to provide power specifically to the jews.yes and what is the end of that you recon? considering all the available information and incoming tech?>A hostile power will always be worse than one who simply doesnt care about you.I mean ... yeah. one that doesn't care about me also not ideal. and one that does care for me is pretty phantasmagorical. the more scary scenario is that it seems we're approaching some kind of end, at least to human usefulness, and there's no convincing story about what happens after. zealots are cooming their pants for ze apocalypse when most die and go to heaven
>>534853649>economics have nothing to do with power
>>534853576>thats propaganda>but mine isn't
>>534853738>yes and what is the end of that you recon?I see a big war coming. Civil war sparking across the world around the same time, then whoever wins wins and whoever loses and dies out.>>534853619You are retarded>>534853681A dialectic, two things presented as opposites but work together to form the synthesis. Or the common tactic of playing both sides to achieve the same goal.
>>534853786Islam is a system of power. Therefore communism is islam. And so is capitalism. Smoke some weed and say "yeah man" next time to make it clear how dumb you are.
>>534854007capitalism and socialism are economical systems, and they are congruent with democracy and communism. they support eachother, hence why it's not as easy having democracy with fucking socialism, or communism with pure capitalism. they are not made for eachother, they are not congruent. you can patch each up with some measures but you cannot fully interchange them while keeping the same political system, you absolute turd.thus, if you want full socialism, you must change to communism, to support that fucking socialism, by force.they are economical systems which support their political counterpart system, which are exactly about fucking power. spare me the individual bullshit
>>534854179> communism with pure capitalism That doesn't mean anything you stupid asshole. It would be like saying capitalism is harder with pure feudalism. Do you just assign your own meaning to words that already exist?
>>534853828first its propaganda because its ridiculous. Nobody was shooting anyone for criticizing government doing shitty work. People were shot if they wanted to do a revolution. Criticizing the government doing shitty work happened all the time and was aired on government television. Things are not much better now, if I was planning in my group of people to do a communist or fascist revolution, I would be arrested and put to prison as well. Not shot but prison time.
>>534849959Uh… pretty much in every developed first world nation. Free trade is the cornerstone of economic growth and innovation. I know you like to blame free trade and capitalism for everything that doesn’t work, but most of the reasons are because of bloated social welfare problems that can no longer be paid for by the former. You blame the effect, not the cause.
>>534854384>That doesn't mean anything you stupid assholethe party deciding what your company does is something you suddenly cannot understand?
>>534854449Ok sure so give one example of that
>>534854426>Nobody was shooting anyone for criticizing government doing shitty work.soft non-threatening critique for "freedom theater" yeah next you'll probably straight-face say they even have fair democratic elections>People were shot if they wanted to do a revolution.I mean, depends how you interpret critique in the end.my gramps was jailed for speaking against communism in my country, not for trying to overthrow the system, for merely not agreeing with it.I think you are either absolute fucking idiots, either paid to shill the commie system here.
former victim of capitalist brainwashing herelove these threads, it's a good causethe cognitive dissonance of proletarians toeing the capitalist line is a sight to see
>>534854474So you just make up definitions for words lmao
>>534848536You know, it is the same thing - people you can empathize with. It is as hard to call your brother an alien of completely different culture as it is to a person who doesn't have to wageslave, when you need it to survive. Both leads to a low-trust society and will blow up. If you argue that capital is not a big divider, you would be wrong - it fucken is, and those who own it are evolving in a different species, with longer lifespan, as an example. Rothschild will have 8 heart transplants, while people in Canada will be getting euthanazed as soon as they reach retirement age.
question for people better-read in marx than me: is a planned economy a necessary part of socialism? in our world today, "socialism with chinese characteristics" is clearly the most effective economic system, but that seems to contain a robust, if subordinate, market economy
>>534854802>"look at the definition goy">*doesn't have to address the argument*eat shit commie faggot
>>534847742You didn’t build that
>>534854745Let's all have a toast to another 100 years of "bad praxis".
>>534854802Do you know the term"State Capitalism"Socialist states doing abit of capitalism isnt unheard of. I assume thats what he is talking about, or market socialism or fascism or whatever.
>>534854870Our economy is planned too. Central banks for example have made it so most money printed goes towards home loans, driving the price way up.They also print money for stupid shit like the stock market etc. The shift from an industrial economy to a financial one didnt just happen magically.
>>534847169Fuck this asshole.
>>534854870As far as I'm aware it's necessary for the vast majority of private property to be managed by a Socialist oligarchy in order for there to be a synthesis between Socialism and Capitalism into the Anarcho-Comunist utopia. The utopia also includes idle lay abouts like Karl Marx performing open heart surgery and flying planes because minimum competency standards are too oppressive for a utopia.
>>534854891>nigger thinks the only way to own a bike is to steal it
commies misunderstand basic fundamentals of human behavior. if this wasnt obvious to you because you're extremely autistic, the history of the 20th century is reason enough to never give commies power under any circumstance.
>>534855032interesting. so the "free market" is kind of a myth - the people planning the economy in their own favor want to make it look like they "won" in a "fair" system
>>534855183i haven't read very much marx, but this seems overly silly, like an intentional misrepresentation by someone trying to make his goals look stupid rather than understand them
>>534855395>the history of the 20th century is reason enough to never give commies power under any circumstancewhy do you say that? deng xiaoping theory lifted more people out of poverty in the 20th century than any other political force, by far
>>534855663@grok what was the death toll of communism in the 20th century?
>>534855023Im going to explain what these terms mean as I understand themFeudalism: in europe after rome collapsed the catholic church funded kingd around Europe to take the throne. Part of the new arrangement was the former slaves would instead be tied to land owned by Lords, and those lords served a king, and that king would have to pay up to the church.Generally people believed money = wealth. Kings were obsessed with alchemy to make gold, and therefore wealth. The spanish were the ones who ultimately did this by stealing all the gold from the americas, only to wind up being as poor as before. But why? Capitalism: it was becoming pretty apparent money does not equal wealth. Adam smith wrote the wealth of nations as an investigation into what really makes a nation wealthy, which he concluded was a nations industry and the quality of their labor. The industrial revolution came naturally. However things weren't smooth as there were still remnants of Feudalism. Bankers , landlords, monopolists, etc still existed as parasites holding back economic progress. For example landlords charged higher and higher rents to workers which was making British industry less competitive. This is also when the myth of free trade was created by Ricardo.Socialism: this was happening naturally. People realized that you needed to get rid of financial predators and parasites to have a competitive industrial economy. For example getting rid of landlords would lower the cost of wages. Free health care would too, as employers could afford to pay less if their workers didnt have a bunch of expenses to pay to parasites.The way marx saw economic progress was slavery->feudalism->capitalism->socialism->communismAnyways most people were socialists, in the sense they thought something innovative and revolutionary would overtake capitalism the same way capitalism overtook Feudalism. >>534854179 this guy says capitalist communism, which means nothing
Marxism is the ultimate "Trust the Plan" bullshit, National Socialism is way more proactive
>>534847169all isms are jewish brainwashing
>>534855524Victor Hegel's original dialectic was to smash ideas together until you find God. The Materialistic Dialectic is to smash ideas together until you find the perfect government. One that can only come about by transforming man himself so that there is no longer any tradeoffs between order and freedom. Read about it yourself if you don't believe me.
>>534848764>jews cause wars to kill whites>its the white's fault.
>>534855745putting every political movement in every country that was inspired by marx under the same umbrella isn't a useful or nuanced way to analyze themthat would be like saying unitarians are violent warmongers because of the crusadesstalinism killed a lot of people, but dengism didn't
>>534855822Yeah you just have to make up a bunch of race science and call people subhumans to justify imperialism > the slavs are ze niggers, also we need your land and resourcesWoah so genius
>>534847169karl marx is your nigger
>>534849479Jews understand class is a spook, and race is real.
>>534856012>Read about it yourself if you don't believe me.got any infographs, memes or citations in books for me to read?
>>534856031How did jews make Adolf hitler invade poland
>>534856031How did jews kill archduke Ferdinand
>>534851077You sound incredibly unintelligent. flag checks out
>>534847169It only works during the early years but the (((fellow))) revolutionaries joined so that (((they))) could organize the revolution properly
>>534856086>Jews understand class is a spook, and race is real.the people whose country is made up of ethnic germans, ukrainians and moroccans, who will let anyone with enough money marry into their "ethno-religion", understand that class is a spook and race is real?
>>534855032Central banks are a central and necessary part of communism. So central and necessary, in fact, you can make an argument that any country with a central bank is communist.
>>534856251it's extremely hard for me to see a country as overtly hostile to the working class as the usa as "communist"
>>534847169Blue states created monopolies through massive tax break programs, which is the first step in command economies. It’s the exact opposite of late stage capitalism. What we have is early stage socialism.
>>534856045so your one example of a commie who wasn't a complete failure is famous for...opening up markets to elements of capitalism, woah! who would've thought?
>>534856159They were behind the seperatist group that did the killing. They also funded the war.>>534856128Jews in poland were killing ethnic germans. Jews also wrote the treaty of versaille in such a way as to destroy germany. Hitler was an understandable reaction.
>>534856241>jews let you become a jew!Patently false. You can become a paypig, but converts are still goyim.
>>534856295>the usa is overtly hostile to the working class.The largest part of the budget goes to working class relief efforts. You also make a crucial error. Communism does not support the working class. Never have. Communism is an elite phenomenon.
>>534856317i'm focusing on deng xiaoping in particular because his primary motivation seems to have been pragmatism - the planned economy wasn't working for the chinese proletariat, so he introduced elements of a market economy (very different from "capitalism")in the united states, the market economy isn't what's hurting the working class - it's "capitalism", and the pragmatic solution seems to be dialing down the "capitalism" and increasing the "socialism" while preserving the aspects of the market economy that are good for the people
>>534856371The Rabbis complain all the time that Israel is full of 'Russian goyim' yet they are still there mixing with the population fighting in the IDF
>>534856108Marxism by Thomas Sowell. Sowell was a Marxist until he worked for the government in Puerto Rico as an economist studying the effects of Minimum wage. Also TIKhistory has some videos on the underlying philosophy of Marxism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kzZoK5CtJ8
>>534856072>make upAre you sure they made it up or did they get it from observation? The Ukraine war makes slavs as a whole seem clannish, savage, and closed minded as a people. Not stupid but bumpkin-eqsue. Kind of moot since the Germans didn't really hate the slavs at worst they wanted to replace Jewish leadership with their own and exploit the slavs like the British did in India
>>534856475>the jews are upset that racial aliens are in their land>this proves the jews don't care about race.Anon, are you retarded?
>>534856371ivanka trump's children are 100% jewish
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>>534856489nice thanks
>>534856438you focus on him because he's the only commie who managed to not starve millions of people. and you think we need more of this ideology just because it makes sense to you in some abstract way that has little to do with reality. the reality is communism is trash from first principles and has never worked.
>>534856251The big problem with central banks is who creates the credit.The english model of central banking was created because the british needed a way to fund their war against the catholic church and europe.So they killed their king, and later during the glorious revolution put parliament in charge of collecting the tax revenue that would be used as collateral for the loans made to the bank of england by private creditors.Well obviously that is a scam meant to make a couple of banker parasites rich off interest. The Germans were the ones who made central banking make sense by only loaning for productive purposes, which has a positive economic effect because productive loans create wealth and justify paying interest. Thats the model the chinese have today.Of course american usurers dont like this model and prefer to loan for unproductive purposes so they can enrich themselves and enslave society
>>534856340The people who killed the archduke you fucking moron. You literally pulled that out of your bussy
>>534856423>The largest part of the budget goes to working class relief efforts.medicaid and income security (SNAP, unemployment insurance, etc) are wealth transfers from the working class (income and payroll tax) to the capital class (health insurance companies, landlords, food conglomerates) with a fig leaf of helping the poormedicare and social security are wealth transfers from the young working class to the old working class>Communism does not support the working class. Never have. Communism is an elite phenomenon.maybe you can help me understand how a system like, for example, china's, which has brought like 800 million people into the middle class in the last 40 years, is an elite phenomenon
>>534847169what he didn't know was that the bourgeoisie was gonna be marxist
>>534856785it's weird that i gave you an example of communism working but your argument is still that it has never workedi don't think xi jinping has starved millions of people, either
>>534856489What does this shit video have to do with marxism>>534856552https://youtu.be/4THv2qQjLhc?si=TDNWv-Wz28ta9i1i
>>534857250>gibs aren't for the working class.You know, I agree with you. They are communistic in nature.>the chinese communists really like the working class.I'm noticing the communist countries are some how not communist when thru are mass genociding workers, but are communist when they do good things. Regardless, communist china, like communist russia, is propped up by foreign capitalist countries and banks.
>>534857334it's weird that you ignored when I pointed out that your one example is famous for opening their economy.>and the guy who continued similar mixed policies didn't completely fail either (it's just an authoritarian police state but whatever)
>>534857334You said the marxist proletariat would overthrow the capitalist Bourgeoisie But then the Soviet Union collapsed So you began the "March through the Institutions"Now you are the Bourgeoisie and their Lumpenprole children that a nationalist prproletariat is rising up against, how does that work out?
>>534857478China creates its own credit you moron
>>534857281The modern "communist" has no idea that they are the bourgeoisie that Marx said to revolt against. They think that as intelligentsia they will be spared from the revolution. They must not have been told how all the old bolsheviks, many of whom were intelligentsia, were purged by some borderline literate peasant.
>>534857497>>534857478i know the argument that "china isn't actually communist" is popular with american rightists, but i think it's absolutely falseas an example, consider the ownership structure of huawei>The company is organized through a holding entity called Huawei Investment & Holding Co., Ltd., which has only two registered shareholders:>Ren Zhengfei (Founder & CEO): Holds approximately 0.59% to 1.01% of the company’s total share capital.>The Trade Union Committee: Holds the remaining 98.99% to 99.41% of the shares on behalf of the company's eligible employees.it's hard for me to imagine anything more quintessentially communist than a company which is 99% owned by its own trade union
>>534857580China has recieved purposeful injections of wealth and status for almost 70 years at this point. Yes, they issue their own currency. Foreign investment is the reason they have gained status at all. Like the soviets, they are bankrolled by sympathetic western elites.
>>534857643Total Intelligentsia Death
>>534847169Personally I don't have a problem with marxists nor fascists nor capitalists.What I have a problem with exists on both sides as bureaucrats and as business 'inheritors'.It is always the same problem, someone who didn't make a system somehow takes control of the system. It is not their system. The same immorality when it occurs spreads immorality like a cancer.As things currently stand the majority of business owners have come into ownership positions without improving anything and without providing anything of benefit.Their workforce consists of minimum wage workers.Their products consist of valueless trash.Their creations would be better wiped off the face of the earth than kept.The justice system should have prosecuted these people long before for the countless crimes they committed. They have not been jailed because they are mistakenly believed to offer something to society.I'm not going to fight for some minimum wage paying cunt to continue being a cunt. The moment they sweep through is the moment I help them.
>>534857644>non-sequitur.China gained wealth and status due to foreign investment. Same as soviet russia. Communism is not for the workers. It is an ideology of oligarchs.
>>534857662> cia starts war between Ukraine and Russia> kidnaps Maduro for wanting to sell oil in yuan> closes the strait of hormuz to try and crush china's industrial economyWhat sympathetic western elites? These parasites hate china.
>>534857696>memeflag>immorality
>>534857758Nixon, reagan, bush, clinton, bush, obama, biden. That's just presidents. We're not even touching congressmen, intellegensia, or business interests. Communism is a philosophy of the elite.
>>534857760I'm not going to fight for minimum wage fucko. Monopolies should pay more tax.
>>534857644let me make this as clear as I can. there is not a single communist country in history that any sane person would rather live in than the united states today (despite all it's problems) and that obviously includes china to whatever degree they are or aren't communist. it is a trash ideology that says you aren't an individual and has led to authoritarianism even in the rare cases it didn't cause famines and mass suffering. If you can't understand this I can't help you, please go live in china.
>>534857847How did Obama bailing out banks but not nationalizing them after the 2008 crash imply he is a communist?How did the USA's cold war against communism imply they are communist?How did the Nixon shock and the united states switching from the gold standard to the petro dollar imply they are communist?What about ronald reagan wanting to privatize public services for the benefit wealthy oligarchs implies communism?
>>534857859You don't get to steal the inheritance of some guy whose father worked his whole life to accumulate Even if he does a poor job managing it Now get a job
>>534847169Name one place where that has happened or is happening. Socialist movements are exclusively led by bourgeoisie intellectuals
>>534858013>there is not a single communist country in history that any sane person would rather live in than the united states todayThe GDR
>>534858059>why is obama fucking over the workers for the banks communism.Fucking over the workers for the wealthy is the modus operandi of communism and has been since communism was dreamed up inside the shriveled brain of a diseased man.>why does nixon opening up trade to communist china and exporting our manufacturing there mean he is a sympathizer.I donno. Maybe think for a second?>why does ronald reagan granting amnesty to thousands of chinese nationals and known spies mean they sympathized with communism?I donno. Maybe think for a second?
>>534858168>living in post-WW2 GermanySickening.
>>534847169Both critical race theory and chud-maxxing on this board are meant to stop this. >goy, view the world through the lens of race, not class
>>534858223>living in Australia at any point in history
>>534858084There is this concept that exists with monopoly supporters and that concept is that the business owns more of my work than what it pays for.Dead wrong. I am owed $6000/h for my work.
>>534858247"class struggle" is just sowing division between german labourers and german engineers to conquer our economy and destroy it
>>534847169What’s funny that this actually true about race like fpbf said. Despite the holocaust and melting pot propaganda, despite trump and brexit being only implicitly pro white, young whites clang onto what little race consciousness was expressed in these events and snowballed them into an overt racial movement. Are marxists ever tired of being wrong?
>>534847169I don't think marx used the word Marxist, did he?
>>534847169Marx was such a evil midwit. Bourgeoisie own the means of production because it is for sale or they put capital up and start it and they can sell it, just like any union can buy a company or seed it and run it and sell it the they way they want as well. There are a million unions, very few put their collective monies where their mouths are. Marx knew leftists are so unlikable that they could never collectivize and succeed, but they could be very easily weaponized to kill royal children lol. Never listen or follow a leftist, they are so stupid.
>>534847169>GUYS GUYS GUUUUYYYYSSSS!!! I AM A RETARD!!! AND I JUST DISCOVERED THE LOW IQ FAT RETARD WHO NEVER EARNED HIS OWN MONEY AND WAS A DRAIN ON HIS FAMILY AND "FRIENDS" TILL THE DAY HE FINALLY DIED WAS ACTUALLY RIGHT!!cool story retard, keep me updated
a lifelong jobless loser with low iq running his mouth about the working class, every time any of his shit was tried (including by literal dictators who had no challange to any implementation) failed, i couldnt think of a more insulting thing for the working class who never asked being represented by this literal worthless retard. The insult of being a person with a job working and then some fat fucking jew literal lifelong jobless leech (on his own family and friends) trying to swindle himself to the top as the voice of the working class while literally as a matter of fact has no idea of anything with work or the working class because he never worked is just beyond insulting. Its a blind retard trying to tell you about colors.
>Karl Marx was right about everythingMostly.
>>534847169He was already proven wrong in the time pertinent to his scribblings. It doesn't mean his work is devoid of value of course, but that's the reality. Saying he was "right about everything" based on your observations of today's society is idiotic, objectively speaking. You're a good example of why Marxism is considered a cult.
