Is central asia Russian controlled politically/economically or is it fairly autonomous? Do Russian nationalists want to annex it again?
why do you ask?
Our pres loves Russia. He also speaks Chinese whatever that's worth. We need massive hoards of Asian immigration up in this bitch. All Chinese, Indian, SEA migrants are welcome.
>>534855022Autonomous but incompetent
Tulip revolution.
>>534857213What goes on in Kazakhstan?
>>534855022moving in to turkey sphere
>>534857213>Indian are welcomeYou will live to regret this
>>534855022It has moved away from the Russian sphere of influence significantly, trying to get in closer with Asia, Europe, and the Americas. Still, there is obviously a large amount of Russian influence, but it dwindles by the year. Yes, many Russian nationalists do want to take at least some of these lands. Kazakhstan as a whole used to be majority white, even today the North of Kazakhstan is. So some more moderate nationalists at least call for the annexation of North Kazakhstan. Others want all of Kazakhstan or most of Central Asia. Mainly because, outside of Kazakhstan, much of the modern infrastructure and agricultural development is a result of Russian rule. These places were living a century behind Russia before Russia developed it. There were a few other Russian areas of settlement in places like Kyrgyzstan but not nearly to the extent of Kazakhstan. I should also mention that it wasn’t just Russians that helped make up Kazakhstan’s previous white majority. Obviously Ukrainians had a big part in settling it as they did with all Russian frontiers, but other groups were also relocated there, so a significant portion of the whites who live/lived there have German ancestry. Picrel: Ethnic Map of Kazakhstan, 1939 vs 2023. Pie chart also shown.
>>534855022>>534859620Here’s another 20th Century ethnic map, this time showing all of Central Asia instead of just Kazakhstan. As you can see, Indo-Europeans, both Iranian and European, used to be far more prevalent.
>>534855022Kazakhstan is trying to play the role of an independent and poor version of Switzerland in political matters.Now, politically, this is a transitional state where a new power vertical and new political elites are being formed.Spoiler: they are anti-Russian, and they regularly travel to the United States to learn about democracy and receiving networks.We are the ideal state for the West to irritate Russia and China at the same time.And we are the ideal state for looting, pardon, for investment because of lots of rare earth shit and uranum deposits which are profitable to mine.
>>534855022Not anymore, they are Chinese satellites.
>>534855022Basically it's a situation where Russia does not want to directly control them but the central asians realized they need Russia more because of commerce and they really want to ethnically cleanse each other. So whenever they start killing each other they rely on the Russian army to come in and set up a ceasefire. Kazakhstan knows it's place because of the ethnic Russians living in the north and wants peace because of its oil wealth which is probably going to make it very wealthy. Turkmenistan is by far the most least Russian influenced place because of there oil trade with China and in general small population allows for a dictator to control and returkmenifiy the nation severely limiting Russian influence.>>534860353Not very smart your country is heavily reliant on Russian transit for oil. Your best bet really is just to stay quieta and make your money.
>>534860381They never call for the Chinese army to come in when they try to ethnically cleanse each other. They still respect the Russians.
>>534855022No one cares Sukdeep
>>534860353>>534857213Are women in your country trad? I want a tradwife.
>>534860880They used to but not anymore, everyone understands at this point that Russia is a joke. They might pretend for the sake of cheap oil, and because Russian is still the lingua franca in the region, but that won't last. Young people there study Chinese, not Russian.
>>534855022Yes. I don't think they want to annex us.
>>534855022>Do Russian nationalists want to annex it again?Fuck no. Build the fucking wall.
>>534862358Why give up on Central Asia? Will be very valuable in the future
>>534862554Imagine Mexico except Muslim and you having open borders and no visas with them. Yeah.
>>534862358I agree. Build a wall to stop the flood of Russian migrants into Tashkent. Tired of all your people. Ponayekhali >>534862554Because russia is impotent and can't project hard or soft power anymore. 5 years ago everyone was watching Russian state news here, now only 70+ years olds do and even then some realize that russia "isn't what it used to be">>534862024Young people in uzbekistan study English, overwhelmingly so. It is mandatory in all schools, unlike Russian. China is balls deep in Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan through, that much is true
>>534861538In general, yes.In big cities, women are more liberal and "mainstream".Where the local traditional flavor is more dominant, you marry not only a woman, but also become part of a family or "clan". There are pros and cons to this.>>534860814>Your best bet really is just to stay quieta and make your money.This was the case for many years of Nazarbayev's presidency.Now, national pride and other delusions of cave-dwelling nationalism have suddenly emerged, and interested parties can exploit them.I would just like to point out that the current policy of "decolonization" (from russia) has not changed much for the majority of the country's population.
>>534862786How about you bring you 2 million churka niggers back from here first, you churka nigger.
>>534863103They are among their Muslim brothers. You are a guest in your own country, Ivanushka. Now go apologize to Ramzan for insulting his brothers-in-faith
>>534862941>>534863175I assume you speak only of ethnic Kazakh women but what about other ethnic groups in Central Asia? What if the man isn’t Muslim?
>>534855022Fairly autonomous - Soviet standard infrastructure, military machinery, territorial geography & geographic location binds them to Russian economic sphere more or less.Politically each of them are autonomous on their own terms, and some seek to reduce their dependency from Russian economic sphere by trying to structure a logistics corridor across Caspian to Azerbaijan, and from there to Türkiye, in order to reduce the dependency from relying solely Russian territory to access global markets.Costly thing, but even if successful, they are not going to remove themselves from the Russian economic sphere. They are bound to it no matter what, even if Americans would own majority stakes of the local energy companies.Uzbeks & Kazakhs matter the most - the former is a basket case, playing the Hungarian role in EU over the Russian economic sphere. The latter is more or less the Switzerland of the region, but their nationalists are hedging their bets towards globohomo more & more. If the Russian sympathisers in Kazakhstan are not able to rein them in, in long term the country will end up in the same position as Ukraine today - but penetration will come from two directions instead.Northern Kazakhstan is just fine & civilised, southern half is dealing with churkas. Uzbekistan is just a basket case, as 20-25% of their population are either Tajik or Kazakh minorities + another 10% are former Soviet civilians (Slavs, Germans, Koreans etc.)
