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"Facts have repeatedly shown that Marx and Engels’ analysis of the basic contradictions inherent to capitalism is not outdated," said Xi Jinping.

"Their historical materialist assessment that capitalism will perish and socialism will triumph is not outdated either."

"Although the road is winding, this general trend of socio-historical development is irreversible. The demise of capitalism and the final triumph of socialism is by necessity a long historical process."
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>>534860798
The ever-morphing categories, placed in a ring of tension, and forced to conform to the presuppositions of trust fund nerds, to blind people to the simple fact that rich people will pass laws to guarantee undefaultable, risk free cash flow; i.e. ownership of all humans on earth in perpetual exploitation, just for gluttony and rape.
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only a fucking retard actually believes China is "communist”

China is fascism literally, social-fascism is you want to call it socialism

seriously leftards for Christs sake stop being so fucking retarded already
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>>534860798
Which threats and incentives do I use to defend my needs against socialist committees or capitalist investor groups wielding AI and robots against me?
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Marx & Engels can be refuted by an introductory economics textbook
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>>534860798
>The demise of "communism with chinese characteristics" and the final triumph of socialism is by necessity a long historical process.
tldr; the ccp go bye, bye,
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>>534860798
Marx and Engels were not inaccurate in their criticisms of the system, I won't argue that. But Lenin's (and subsequently everyone else's) attempts to address said shortcomings have invariably brought ruin to their societies. Call it communism, socialism, Great Leap Forward, juche, la revolucion, real or fake, whatever - they've all sucked and given their nations economic polio. It's just a shit system.
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>>534863597
The fuck you mean stop being retarded? There no on/off switch. You either are retarded and always will be, or you arent.
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>>534863597
Go back to r*ddit, ladyboy fucker sex tourist
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Marx was a materialist and therefore an idiot. If you cannot comprehend that people aren't run by material things but rather by their own spiritual and mental needs and desires then you are retarded. Capitalism is materialist and thus has doomed western civilization.
Materialism = death
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>>534860798
Meanwhile China is a capitalist nightmare straight out of a dickins novel.
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>>534866892
Lenin was a very down-to-earth man and harbored no illusions about building communism here and now. This is precisely why the NEP was created. After Lenin's death, a fundamental dispute arose between Stalin's and Trotsky's supporters. Trotsky insisted that socialism could only be built on a global scale and was impossible within the confines of a single country. Stalin, however, understood the consequences: an aggressive foreign policy that would lead to the collapse of a country barely recovering from the civil war and not yet industrializing. Stalin was forced to purge the party of all fanatical dreamers and implement industrialization. This is why the USSR did not support the German workers' uprising, although it had initially planned to.
Many Western "thinkers" fail to understand a simple fact: industrialization is IMPOSSIBLE within a capitalist economy without becoming a vassal of the bankers. No capitalist will build industrial zones consisting of power plants, mining and processing facilities, and the associated infrastructure, in a desolate steppe or snowy desert, because it is UNPROFITABLE in the short and medium term. Only centralized economic management allows for the rapid industrialization of a country.
Stalin used communism as a tool to achieve his development goals. After Stalin, a power struggle ensued among a horde of rural degenerates who had distinguished themselves in the war but understood nothing about governing a country. Most Western "analysts" will be surprised to learn that under Stalin, private business (ARTELs) existed, operating on the modern Chinese model: all land is owned by the state, but businesses can lease it for 50 years and easily renew the lease, owning the entire enterprise and reaping the profit. Ultimately, Gorbachev was forced to reintroduce private business in the form of cooperatives, while, out of inertia, heaping scorn on Stalin for these same initiatives.
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>>534867745
Lenin was a faggot cocksucker jew and because of him the jewish community that lived in Russia moved tonArgentina and now I have to deal with these dirty blooded mongrels
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>>534860798
not until it makes sense and when that time comes it will look so different that there will be no argument that all the old ways are outdated and change is needed.
But right now all systems are subvertable and have equal sets of strengths and weaknesses and switch one out for another through force only creates churn and chaos while not really offering any functional change for the people.
I do not care if my boss is a believer or atheist nor do i care if my boss is a capitalist or a communist if my job is still the same job, my life is still impoverished and overworked in deplorable conditions, but if you go wasting my time and life switching out one broken system for another without providing anything other than better branding?.. idk that just sounds like an excise for war, why do you need to get to war so badly?
Nobody really want to gather in a field and die slowly from puncture wounds and trauma for a rebrand so why are you really sending us out there to die in piles? are you eating us?!
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>>534860798
>the real communism is the capitalism on the way



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