>>534875004they dont.the jews simply wont let them get a real election.
the alternative is Russia
why not
>>534875004Low IQ, no morals, no courage. East Slavs are cowardly race in general. Russoids are no better.
>>534875004>SkrinshotWtf?
>>534875004If Yanukovych was in power (as the Russians wanted from the start), he would have surrendered the country to the Russians. Zelensky did not surrender, which makes him popular with people who do not want to be ruled by Russia.I really don't understand why this concept goes over the heads of so many self-hating Westerners. Y'all don't know what living under Russian rule is like but the Ukrainians still remember.
>>534875417You actually think that is better than said alternative? Do you actually believe that?
why do Russkies love in self-inflicted hyperreality?>>534875510He's VPNing zigger or other slav
>>534875568I find it ridiculous that any American would be in favor of bending the knee to a foreign invader. You are the very type of person that Sam Adams insulted when he famously said >May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen
>>534875510that's how pidors from New South Wales oblast out themselves. They're retarded like that.
>>534875004'cause he's a bloody legend, mate
>>534875536>Zelensky did not surrender, which makes him popular with people who do not want to be ruled by Russia.>*which are not the people who don't give a shit about fighting the war, that he had to legally forbid from leaving so they could be kidnapped into the front linesthis war is complete bullshit, just a legal excuse for ethnic cleansing on both sides
>>534875568I'm 100% certain. Poles know this from experience.
>>534875568Trust me, worse than Russia, only hell. It's a miserable life.
>>534875838Yeah I doubt poland ever was at the level Ukraine is in of basically being a walking corpse. If you had any confidence.ein them you'd aid them physically. You don't cause you know it wouldnt pan out in the end.
>>534875771You are the foreign invader in iran. You want them to bend the knee in sure.
>>534875831So wait, Russia is somehow taking longer to fight a demoralized, unwilling and unprepared enemy than they took to defeat Nazi Germany? I thought they were preparing to invade all of Europe? How are they going to do when fighting against nations like Poland and Finland, who have structured their entire military with the sole purpose of buckbreaking Russian invaders?>>534876024I don't support the war in Iran. Why would you assume I do? Just so you can label me a hypocrite and disregard my opinions?
>>534876081Yeah I'm sure you don't. The odd thing is the mindset of everybody is always a simple path you either follow all globalism and jewishness or you don't. There is no "well here I support this Jewish regime but over here I don't"
>>534875004It's more that they support their country and zelensky just happens to be the current head of state. Jewtin started the war long before zelensky was president. The alternative is becoming part of russia, who is hellbent on destroying the ukrainian culture and people. I can't blame them. russia is a poor, corrupt shithole run by kikes in the kremlin and all of the former ussr satellite states seem to better of without russia.
>>534876081>So wait, Russia isI have no idea what my post and your reply to it have in common, but I'm sure you won't bother even attempting to explain
>>534875568Uhm maybe... you know... just a wild guess... they kinda started bombing and literally rolled tanks into Kiev?
>>534876187you speak so well for a jap, surely this thread has exactly zero propaganda shills on vpns
>>534875004we are not that's why we haven't had elections for 7 years
>>534876295>Accuse others of what you are doingT. Pyotr Oblastovich
>>534876254And? The fuck do you care about Western russia? Is Iran different jackass? You sure supported that goal at the start till you realized it didn't go so well. you people are clowns. Rules for thee not for me across the board.
>>534876299how he got into office there is one of the most jewish tricks I've ever heard of>>534876330>>534875831>this war is complete bullshit, just a legal excuse for ethnic cleansing on both sidesthat's because it was an accurate call
>>534876158Supporting the invasion of any independent nation without very good cause is untenable. Russia supporters like to suggest this invasion was a pre-emptive one to prevent a nuclear holocaust in Russia, but I find it to be no coincidence that Russia has prioritized taking land of economic value and retreated from land with less economic value but greater strategic value (think north of Kiev and Chernihiv oblast)>>534876209You are suggesting the Ukrainian military is filled with desperate prisoners who were involuntarily ripped from their civilian lives to fight a war they don't support or are too cowardly to have volunteered for. Or would you like to amend your depiction of the Ukrainian side?
>>534876377There is no middle ground faggot you either support all of the globalist enemies or you don't. Nobody has a middle ground is this fight because the background actors for both wars is the same.anyone claiming they have differing opinions is a liar.
>>534876377>You are suggesting the Ukrainian *and russian militaries are filled with desperate prisoners who were involuntarily ripped from their civilian lives to fight a war they don't support or are too cowardly to have volunteered for.yes, ftfy, and didn't alter muchbut you could have gleaned this already from what I actually said to begin with, if you didn't have an obvious agenda
>>534875417So you can chose to be poor and have a shitty life in Russia or death under a literal kike that will flood your country with nuggets and pajeets after enough of your country's men are dead
>>534876295If you had ever had to learn another language, you'd know that it isn't that hard if you've studied it from a young age. As a Finn, I can say with certainty that I have a larger vocabulary and better grammar than 90%+ of native english speakers
>>534876346>NOO WHY DO YOU CARE LET US JUST BOMB PEOPLE IN A COUNTRY RIGHT NEXT TO YOU IT DOESNT AFFECT YOUFuck off, you dumb nigger, I have enough of your russian shits trying to shit up my lawn. Go crawl back into your hole and never get out of it. You never did anything good to europe, all you did was shitting it up for everyone to make it as miserable as your own country is. By the way, no matter how hard you shill about ukraine about being part of russia, it still won't make it true, so your commie tactics dont work here. If you want to change it, please enlist instead of shitting this image board with fake vpn flag.
>>534876455>you're not allowed to hold your opinion!Says who? I don't support offensive wars. I do not support the war in Iran, nor the war in Ukraine, nor did I support the war in Afghanistan or the war in Georgia, nor the war in Syria or the war in Iraq. This is a very easy position to hold and any criticism of my position can be reduced down to a desire to express aggressive and asocial behaviors, which I don't condone on a geopolitical level.>>534876459Funny, because I always hear that the Russian military is only sending happy and willing volunteers to Ukraine. Are you suggesting that the Russia supporters are wrong?
>>534876367most people are retards in any country, they chose the most popular comedian, now I have to suffer for their choice, even though I didn't vote for him, I'm glad my conscience is clear
>>534876578Not every country on this planet is as homosexual as the EU that we literally replace our own languagesMost people on this planet don't learn English in school out of national pride
>>534875004Because there is nobody else.
>>534875004Funniest part is that Zelenski was actually pro-Russian option in Ukrainian social dichotomy and Kremlin could still win Ukraine peacefully, if only Russian Federation wasn't run by short-tempered criminals.
>>534876578barking up the wrong tree there since I have nothing but respect for multilinguals, it's always been kind of discouraged here, people who speak ESL poorly made fun of by monolingualsit wasn't primarily the english that spurred that call there>>534876663yes I'm suggesting as many russians get kidnapped to be eliminated legally as there are ukranians that domost of the drone videos people jerk off over are likely executions of people kidnapped into it
>>534876664I don't think he was chosen by voters any more than our presidents are
>>534876733>Most people on this planet don't learn English in school out of national prideIncorrect. The reason why is that most people in the world come from countries poor or isolated enough that they're unlikely to ever travel into a country where they'd need english
>>534876809This is the guy that Russians are claiming wants to commit a genocide on all Russians? Sounds like he wanted exactly what Russia claimed they wanted, but in truth it would seem Russia never really cared for a peaceful option>>534876860Do you have evidence that Russia is kidnapping their citizens and pressing them into military service?
>>534876299>starts war with Russia>nobody protests, everyone volonteers, disidents shuned or killed >OY VEY WE LOSING IM DEAD BLYAT >its all zelenskis fault akchualy I know its tough to accept it but its true, ukrainians are subhumanly retarded on pair with African shitholes
>>534876955it's pretty funny that the guy seemingly hell bent on countering "russian propaganda about ukraine" and painting ukraine as some justified victim is asking for evidence russia is also kidnapping citizensbut the answer is no
>>534876957Calm down sasha
>>534877089You made the claim that Russia is kidnapping its citizens, but you have no justification to make the claim? Why do you assume that I would just blindly believe something that someone on the internet says just because I have an opinion that leads me to disagree with one side?
>>534877133>Why do you assume that I would just blindly believe something that someone on the internet says just because I have an opinion that leads me to disagree with one side?the blind belief of one side's propagandism when neither side in an ongoing war can be trusted, ever
>>534875354the Ukraine constitution forbids elections when a war is on.
it's also kind of funny that you've expressed zero opinion about ukraine doing so, and there's mounds of evidence of that on the internetif you're asking for evidence russia does it, must be because you consider it to be a bad thing, yes?
>>534876957
>>534876295This may come as a shock to you, Johnny McSmith from Nebraska Oblast, but Japan is actually one of the most popular countries for international tourism in the world. Never once did I claim to be Japanese. The fact that you think a flag means jackshit on this board just shows how retarded (and most likely brown) you really are.
>>534876641Hopefully AfD sweeps the next national election and you leftist cunts get forced into labor camps along with the niggers, pajeets and other undesierables.
>>534875004
>>534875004They fell for an elaborate ruse.At some point, someone said that if Ukraine joined EU, everyone would receive 20k euros (?????) and they thought that Zelensky was their ticket to a new car, a better house or whatever they desired and could be brought with 20k...
>>534877310>Never once did I claim to be Japanese.fair enough>you think a flag means jackshit >he says like nobody uses vpns to either larp as a country or obfuscate where they're from and thus their agenda
>>534877264how convenient that kang kike makes sure the war never ends
>>534877187And yet I do not demonstrate blind belief of one side. I am asking you again for proof of your claim, without which I simply cannot believe. I have seen undeniable evidence of Ukrainians being chucked into vans, but where is your evidence of Russians facing similar treatment?
>>534877422>I have seen undeniable evidence of Ukrainians being chucked into vans>>534877269>it's also kind of funny that you've expressed zero opinion about ukraine doing so>if you're asking for evidence russia does it, must be because you consider it to be a bad thing, yes?so that seems to be a yes
>>534877288get on the bus Taras, quit hiding
>>534877477Obviously. Again, you are trying so hard to prove me a hypocrite rather than answering my question because you want to wriggle out of this discussion.POST THE PROOF OF RUSSIANS BEING INVOLUNTARILY PRESSED INTO SERVICE
>>534877532>Obviously.glad we got that establishedangry demands I keep speaking on what I already answered like it's this major "gotcha" ignored
>>534875004seems like he cares about his people
>>534877389not even that Hohols are so outworldly butthurt about Russians that they want to destroy them to become them same thing with croaches that separated from Serbs, they have ungodly amount of inferiority complexesPoroshenko failed to ethnicaly cleanse Russians from their lands so they turned to next best guy that promised it its deep colective mental retardation of subhuman population
>>534877618Angry? I am making it abundantly clear that you are dodging my request for proof of your claim. You have repeatedly refused, and therefore your claim is to be disregarded as wishful hearsay. I am interested in seeking information while you are merely interested in playing pilpul
>>534877959>I am making it abundantly clear that you are dodging my request>>534876955>Do you have evidence>>534877089>but the answer is noI answered you already, and you keep harping on it as though I ignored it, to be a cunt, so I'm only ignoring your cuntit kind of smells desu so can't blame me there, close your legs
>>534878108So you admit that you have no evidence that Russians involuntarily being deployed to the Ukrainian frontline? This is a simple question that you instead respond to with some sort of attitude problem, as if you didn't intend to corner yourself and now believe you can talk your way out of. YOU made a claim that YOU cannot prove.
>>534878169>This is a simple question that you answered already like 12 posts ago that I've been harping on like a cunt ever sinceseriously, it just reeks of fish volodymyr
>>534878358>please please just let me goNo, you filthy little liar. Explain why you made a false claim about the Russian military. Don't think any pro-Ukrainian insults will have any effect on me. Explain right now why you are making things up on the internet and then getting upset when you are called out on it.
like opening some 50 year old can of anchovies
>>534878437who are you quoting there?
>>534877264>banned elections>banned investigators from investigating fraud>banned the Christian religion>banned gun and ammo sales>banned men from leaving the country and put minefield at the border to stop people from escaping>banned all indelendant mediaPeak freedom and democracy unlockedComing soon to an EU member near you!
>>534878467>>534878486Looks like you are short circuiting. I accept your concession. Now don't go around making up little lies in the future.
>>534878520>Looks like you are short circuiting.?
don't you have to be made of some sort of electronic devices to short circuit? do you have any evidence I'm made up of electronic devices?why would you make such false claims with no evidence?
>>534878550>>534878621>failed to meaningfully participate in a discussion, resorting to turning it into a game of rhetoric>lost the game he started>is now playing semantic games in a vain effort to feel like he can "get back" at meYou debased yourself and then sunk even lower. Stop telling lies on the internet.
>>534875004Im starting to think noone who actually stayed in ukraine supported this guy and that it was a vocal minority of those who left who were consumed by pride
>>534878742so, you have NO evidence I'm made up of electronic devices capable of short circuiting?truly shocking, I can't believe people would stoop to such a level
>>534875417A good alternative, desu. Russia is good.
>>534875507You are American. You dont know what a moral or courage is.
>>534878799>is called out for playing semantics>doubles down anywaysAbsolutely shameful. I guess this exchange is going to linger in your mind for a while, unless you can find some way to "win". Maybe you're trying to get the desperate "last word" win?
>>534878869nah I'm just amusing myself at your expense now, since someone here is clearly desperate to "win" this exchange, and it sure ain't me
>>534878930I already "won" a while ago when I called you out and you conceded to being a liar. Everything past that is just me voicing my opinions and you trying to wriggle out of the situation you put yourself in. An amused person doesn't behave like you do - but an annoyed liar does.
>>534879035>I already "won" a while ago when I asked if you had any evidence of your claims and you said "no", all these extra posts of mine past that acting like I gained some major victory over you somehow were all for my own asshurt, including the extensive "no u" greatest hits collection of your own endgame replies to people on here >>534878869you know that I know that you know how asshurt you actually are, and this extensive expression of it is amusing as fuckcouldn't even give any less of a shit about digging through 4plebs to "prove" this posts' statementsas I said, you know that I know that you knowthat I knowthat you know I know
>>534875004Cuz they get to confettify ziggerz, which is the best fun a person can have...
>>534879303Yep, looks like someone is obsessed with "the last word". Poor little liar can't even muster the courage to admit he lied.
>>534879501https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQgd6MccwZc^^^ oh wait, you can't, ahahaha
>>534879741Yep, called it
>>534880016you can have the last word, since obviously you need it here REALLY badlymake it good, better than this all you sport
I won't even reply :)
>>534880102>lost the discussion>lost the rhetoric game>lost the semantic game>lost the "last word" gameCompletely and utterly BTFO'd
>>534875510max-res-default
>>534877288>>534877496why you you assume its taras more likely a german bosniak turkoid zoomer kid. The biggest benefactors from nato were albanians and bosnians then you have wierd leftist types you see in cities/fags. Serbia was the same shit as ukraine my uncle fled the war in bosnia to belgrade and VANNED.com niggas threatened to kill his family and him if he doesn't fight.
when the spiders this is sure to draw come you all are fucked
I forgot that the joke only makes sense with the picture
>>534876295he is third world shithole immigrant who use jap flag as flex
>>534875004He fights for European values.
>>534881153speaks too well for third world
>ukrainians are dying for this and russians are dying to this
>>534883519even my id agrees
>>534883579Only reason thing hasn't died yet is because russia wouldn't want a competent commander taking it's place.