>>534880858
There needs to be a balance.

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>>534880916
Both camps are terrified of us bringing scientific occultism back.

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>>534880858
The question should read: why do wise people not believe in something implausible just because it may seem desirable?

>>534880858
Its not that atheism makes people smarter, its the fact that smart people dont believe in magic.

Also, both smart and dumb people are capable of evil. Atheism does not mean a person is good, religiosity does not make anyone a good person.

If you need threats of hellfire to be a decent person, you are infact, evil in your core.

>>534880858
We are smarter in general - this has been confirmed by a few studies, actually. We also, on average, know more about religion than people who claim to be religious.

Make of it what you will, but it is what it is.

>>534880858
Yes that's why it's a care principal of Marxism.

>>534880858
To become an atheist is unironically to become more closed-minded

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>>534881489
I am open to deities being proved to exists. So far all that I have been offered is ancient myths and anecdotal experiences that that can be explained by just regular natural stuff.

I personally would like the idea of there being a supernatural side to existence. So far I am unconvinced, therefore an atheist.

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I'm a fox, Morty! Wabadadubdub

>>534881281
Technology may as well be universe approved magic

>>534881489
Bullshit. People who are born into religion and never question it are FAR more closed minded that atheists like me who were raised to believe in god but became atheist due to literally being more open minded, getting an education, and considering all other viewpoints.

>>534880858
I have a proof that a god didn't exist eternally. That's why I'm a gnostic atheist.

>>534881281
Religion can make bad people do good things, but it can also make good people so bad things.

>>534881840
Very true. The saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" comes to mind.

>>534881743
Well I am an engineer so tech really does not seem like magic to me mate.

>>534881840
True. I kind of like the more secularised version of christianity where people are taught empathy and shit, its a shame there are so many fundamentalists in the west.

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>>534881377
im sure your average filthy green haired armpit atheistic unhinged
troon is smarter than, for example, Newton

>>534881978
certain percentage of fundamentalists ensures preservation of the whole

>>534880858
smart people know that religion is a way for the elite to control the masses

>>534882575
Love how you idiots have to back hundreds of years to find religious scientists during times when EVERYONE was religious and we hadn't even discovered evolution or germs yet.

>>534882648
the elites are masonic which require believing in a creator

>>534882575
Well yeah. I think there was some religious "thinker" who said something along the lines of "Get em while they are young".

Its almost impossible to reverse brainswashing that starts from infancy.

Also wasnt Newton a major occultist?

>>534882575
Also love how you cut out the part that showed Einstein wasn't religious as well.

>>534882575
>Newton
He's welcome to his personal feelings and opinions

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>>534882575
Also what do you think Spinozas god is compared to your regular run of the mill bible thumpers deity?

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>>534882921
You dummies are so gullible

>>534880858
Every single atheist who refuses to repent of their atheism will spend eternity roasting and crying in hell.

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>>534881139
Throw baseless claims in the trash 2026

>>534882889
and also the top 10 most brilliant minds in history, I can also mention descartes, pascal or da vinci, which proves your ‘only idiots believe in god’ falacy is as retarded as you think the rest are.

>>534883001
You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions

>>534883001
Sure thing buddy :)

>>534882921
>Dr. Kim
Already watched like, 4 fantastic debunks on him. Want me to link a few?

>>534882937
> spinozas god
is still a god, so not atheist, can your peanut sized brain grasp the difference?

>>534883076
>which proves your ‘only idiots believe in god’ falacy
I never said this. I firmly believe that the belief in God was needed to move science forward.

>>534883223
Okay. You have a nice day buddy.

>>534883277
> needed to more science forward
you’re so obtuse it hurts

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>>534883158
this is my last capture im doing wasting my time with all of you retarded ‘geniuses’

>>534880858
Ive never seen a smart atheist.

>>534880858
Yea atheism and childlessness. We're so SMART!

>>534883414
Why exactly? Try using an actual argument next reply kiddo

>>534883488
you wouldnt get it

>>534880858
Exterminate all mongrels.

>>534883523
Which really means you don't get it

>>534881777
Most atheists are wicked anti-White shitlibs. They're also retarded cattle who should be culled.

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>>534883455
>grifters target religious people with claims only they would believe
>this person did this therefore he was right about something else

Theism leads you astray

>>534883606
you sound low IQ

>>534881777
but atheists ARE the people born into religion. older people into religion convert by themselves. quit projecting tranny fucker

nothing s open minded about repeating jewish propaganda and shoddy arguments mindlessly, sliding stuff in your asshole isnt open mindedness. yo ure supposed to have brakes, doubt, and not drink any jewish cum that is offered to you

u know what antithesis is ? you never applied it. ever. you dont even know how to think suka

>>534882648
opposite of the truth

>>534883886
>but atheists ARE the people born into religion
Amd yet we are all born atheist

>>534883972
we re born without knowing how to speak fucktard

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>>534883886
>opposite of the truth

>>534884065
>we re born without knowing
Exactly. Which means lack of belief, which is atheism fucktard

>>534883455
Holy fuck, are you really pulling out the Langam card? lmfao!!!!!!!

I have even better debunks of him. You do realize that any "IQ" over about 160 is highly unreliable and almost meaningless, right? The tests don't go that high.

>>534880858
atheislam is a vessel to weaken a country's religion in preparation for the installation of islam

>>534883455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcMvwrM6TUQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDmcoYpTTbE

Here are your heroes! Watch if you dare.

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>>534880858
wait, you're serious?

Out of any ideology to choose from, Atheism is hands down completely delusional and separated from reality. It's impossible for a gaytheist to exist and that's the funny part, people call themselves something that is completely self-contradictory.

"Atheists" are a product of cultural Marxist brainwashing with cognitive dissonance in the end.

>>534884133
Atheism is a belief. The belief that there is no higher being that created the world and us.

>>534884245
No. Fuck all abrahamic faiths equally

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>>534880858
>I posted it again!
so did I lol

>>534884494
Finland bares its pussy for Islamic cock unfortunately.

Islam isn't even an Abrahamic religion, only Christianity is Abrahamic. Of course these pagan-"atheist" dogs can't even add 2 + 2 together though.

Islam is yet another one of your pagan idols that take turns raping you slave cucks of Satan.

>>534884440
You are comparing the want to end selfs suffering to the fear that ending it leads to eternity of suffering.

Also lacking faith until the fact is proven is not an ideology, retard. Its common sense.

Are you stupid or doing that intentionally?

>>534884648
Sure thing buddy.

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>>534884494
lmao you would never say that to a Muslim's face and everyone knows it
atheists only attack Christians, because atheists are bullies and Christians don't fight back

>>534884657
Eternity of suffering doesn't even exist, once again you're delusional and blind.

This is why you are stuck in your cycle of self-hatred and suicidal ideation, it's over for you dogs.

You have no logical reasoning, you are simply a nigger pigeon strutting over the chessboard.

>>534884490
>Atheism is a belief.
Disbelief/lack of belief
>The belief that there is no higher being that created the world and us.
Which is still a lack of belief

>>534884624
N-koreans think the Kim family is magical. Its not an atheist society

>>534880858
Atheists are not especially smart. I was stuck in the atheist trap back when I was younger. But it was a false peak.
You get to that point and think "there's nowhere to go from here". But you've got to reverse some of your 'progress' and descend a bit to find your path back up. The problem is, that requires humility.
And there's the problem. That's why most people get stuck in atheism.

>>534884766
I have. You just need to think that I have some wierd animosity towards specifically christianty so you can keep pretending as if you are being persecuted.

>>534884766
I'm an atheist and I would happily join the christians in the final crusade

>>534884770
Im not suicidal and I enjoy existing.

>>534884837
>That's why most people get stuck in atheism.
I certainly don't feel stuck. I feel freer and happier than I ever was when I was trying with all my might to "find god."

>>534884976
Same.

Smart people realize some book written thousands of years ago by coin clipping Jews is not a reliable source.

The reason atheists are on average smarter is because the upper middle rung of intelligence is just intelligent enough to intuit adopting whatever institutional dogma is pushed for their own benefit. That’s it. It’s simply that upper midwits have no real principles and are easily programmed by zog.

>>534884806
and south korea is actually among the least religious countries. 15-20% batshit megachurch retards that nobody likes and 80%+ atheists

>>534885053
There is no field of knowledge which isn’t based on an old book you absolute pseud.

>>534885108
Give me your address nigger

>>534884787
No it's not a lack of belief, like i said, you believe there is no higher power who created the world and us

"The word belief means an acceptance that something is true, real, or exists, especially without absolute proof."

>>534885144
You too queer

>>534884837
ding ding ding we have a winner.

God humbles the proud and exalts the humble. Pride is the root of all Sin and Humility is the root of all Virtue.

That is how they remain ignorant in their arrogance and arrogant in their ignorance.

But always remember, this, it's not a problem of intellect but a problem of the heart. Atheists know that God exists yet deny the Truth because they are evil. It is up to God to have mercy on them, and to give them spiritual life, so that they are no longer spiritually blind & deaf.

>>534884956
You don't have to lie to me or yourself. Many of your kind is suffering & suicidal, your path of destruction remains a path of destruction, "those who hate me love death." You clearly hate Christ, who is Life itself, and so you hate life, and love death. You are only alive now because of the God you hate still choosing to sustain you.

And you still dare to behave so ignorantly?

>>534885115
It wont register to the dude I replied to. Some are beyond help.

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>>534885180
>you believe there is no higher power who created the world and us
Which is still a lack of belief.

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>>534884888
there are many things you can lie about on anonymous Kurdistani zutt-buggering forums, but pretending you've had your head chopped off by taking a stand against Islam isn't one of them

>>534885053
you're not very smart.

>>534885115
South Korea is as fucked as Japan, you pagans sure are funny. You're parading around countries that are dying as something glorious.

>>534885295
Its pretty funny how your faith requires me to be unhappy :D Eat shit retard. I am going to on enjoying life as the atheist sonofabitch I have always been.

I hate Jesus as much as I hate Gandalf mate. Satan scares me as much as Sauron does.

Have a nice day, buddy.

>>534885295
>Humility is the root of all Virtue
Do you ever humble yourself that your personal feelings about God are wrong?

>>534881690
All of creation and life is proof enough but you only know this life and are accustomed to it thus taking it for granted. Do you need some movie tier shit to happen or dragonball z fight in the sky?

>>534885458
This. Well said.

>>534885510
>Do you need some movie tier shit to happen or dragonball z fight in the sky?
Right? It's like saying you need to believe a virgen woman can give birth, burning bushes talk or that a man lived inside a whale to name a few

>>534885458
You sound 14 in this post not gonna lie. You've gone completely unhinged, good luck.

>>534885350
Atheists do not exist, just because you're too deluded to realize that you also serve a master doesn't mean that reality will cater to your warped irrationality.

>>534885468
You're not even making any points with this one, what are you even trying to say?

>>534885353
You claimed that I would not say fuck "your religion" to a muslim. You are wrong.

To be fair if I were to travel to a fundamentalist islamic shithole I would not be going around trying to get a religious police to whip my ass. Thankfully I live in a country where saying fuck christianity, islam and judaism is allowed.

Fun fact, its the christians here who are trtying to keep the remnants of blasphemy laws.

>>534885510
You lack the faculties to have this conversation

Btw, if there is an atheist here who trully wish to know the truth about weither God exist or not, i can provide you with a step by step guide to prove that he does indeed exist, but it require work on your part, so don't ask me if you are not willing to put the work required

>>534885458
>>534885519
nowhere does scripture "require you to be unhappy" this is just a retard take because you hate religion but don't understand that atheism is a religion. you have a belief system based on literal nothing, you believe what exactly? the big bang? you think its "scientifically proven" that nothingness exploded 14 billion years ago"? does it make logical sense to you that "humanity evolved from a slime which exists because lightning struck a rock hundreds of millions of years ago which made an evolving slime"?

"enjoying life" is the whole message in scripture, the bible even says you dont need to read the bible, Jesus specifically says the first people blessed to go to heaven are those that are poor in spirit (aka people like you), it's actually incredibly based that there's a Creator of the universe AND he is cool and lets you have free will and do whatever you want in this little playground

>>534885700
Lets go

>>534885632
>Atheists do not exist
My lack of belief in God or gods says otherwise. As long as their is theism then there will be atheism
>>534885632
>You're not even making any points with this one, what are you even trying to say?
Pretending not to understand I see.

Humility is the root of virtue? Yet you've never humbled yourself to think you may be wrong, while simultaneously telling others they are.

>>534885829
You're going to get a really stupid answer. I can't wait lol

>>534880858
Athiest think by saying evolution is a fact makes it true and not a theoretical belief

>>534885829
Are you asking just because you are curious or you trully wish to find the truth about this matter ?

If atheists are so smart, then how come there hasn't been any civilization that was atheistic? The only reason atheists thrive today is because the faithful tolerate their existence.

>>534880858
ATHEISM IS A RELIGION!
atheism REQUIRES blind faith in the teachings of mystics making claims you can NEVER verify for yourself. "yea, we exist because nothingness exploded 14 billion years ago" is a religious belief. its not based on anything empirical. nobody has traveled back in time. nobody knows what happened 200 years ago, let alone 2000000000 years ago, let alone beyond that. and you certainly can't find those answers looking through a telescope

evolution is PROVABLY A HOAX, so the idea of "human life originated from the evolution process" is nonsense, pure religious fanfic considering THE PROCESS OF EVOLUTION IS YET TO BE PROVEN! thats why its a theory, nobody has EVER demonstrated how one species can turn into another

>>534885700
>>534885894
Truth is unfaithful.

>>534885441
if fertility rate is the only metric that determines how fucked a country is then your god wants a future of 70IQ africans and jeets

>>534885835
Hahaha sure tranny but you lost hahaha

>>534885818
Great so I dont have to believe in your holy book to be granted a spot in the afterlife. Got it.

Also please, please, stop getting your information about scientific theories from creationists. You not doing yourseld any favours when talking about these subjects.

I personally like the idea, where if for the sake of argument there is something after death, good people are rewarded.

>>534885928
>evolution
Has nothing to do with atheism. You, like many other, have a fundamental misunderstanding of what atheism is

>>534885894
I am curious. I am ready to do the work. Please lead me to the capital G god

>>534885956
Why did you answer that to me ?

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>>534886024
Amen sister

>>534886104
Because it applies

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>>534882921
He made a video in English and he made some of the most retarded arguments for Christianity I've ever heard. One of them was like "Jesus is the messiah. We know this because the son of God wouldn't lie." It was something retarded like that. He's a complete fraud.

>>534886104
Like I said, I am curious and if you read mu previous posts you will notice I already stated that I like the idea of there being a supernatural side to existence. So far I am unconvinced, therefore my atheism

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>>534885633
>Thankfully I live in a country where saying fuck christianity, islam and judaism is allowed.
by whose laws?
you do know that laws that aren't enforced are laws that don't exist, right? and even laws made by a caveman pedophile 700 years ago still do exist when his death cult still enforces the death penalty for breaking them

>>534884976
>I feel freer and happier than I ever was when I was trying with all my might to "find god."

You're supposed to repent, did you not do this? Did you not genuinely beg God for mercy on your soul?

Of course you won't "find God" when your heart was never in the pursuit.

>>534885835
>My lack of belief in God or gods says otherwise
I do not care about your lack of beliefs, you are serving a master, you are a pagan. This simple truth completely invalidates atheism as a position as it is impossible to not serve a master.

Also, "as long as there* is theism"

>Yet you've never humbled yourself to think you may be wrong
I know that you are wrong because God tells me so. Why would I listen to delusional, lying men who are leading others into hellfire when I could humble myself and listen to God instead?

>>534885985
Your "atheistic" countries are dying lol. All you "atheists" can do is kill yourselves off both individually & collectively.

Follow your atheist leaders (Mao Zedong, Stalin, all the rest of the commie dictators etc.) off the cliff why not?

>>534885985
>if fertility rate is the only metric that determines how fucked a country is then your god wants a future of 70IQ africans and jeets
Jeets are in sub-replacement fertility as of a few years ago. Even most afroniggers are in sub-replacement. Only central Africa is in positive growth, but that looks like it could end soon. Things are bad.

>>534880858
Atheism is code word for a good goy. I am not defending religion but people that refer to themselves as atheists, are not ones from lack of belief, they are just bending backwards for every single cancerous shit straight out of Jewish think-tanks.

>>534886100
"Ask and you shall recieve."

It's very simple.
1. Read the bible
2. Study the bible
3. Understand God mind
4. Pray for things you believe God want you to have
5. Recieve

When your prayer will be answered, you will pbly think it's a coincidence at first, and the more your prayers will be answered, the more you will be convinced.

The trick is to know God to be able to ask things that you are certain he can/want to give you

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The correlation is due to race. Atheism is nearly exclusively whites. Other religions have shitskins.

>>534885818
>atheism is a religion. you have a belief system based on literal nothing
Will this tired, weak, and thoroughly debunked talking point EVER end? Every single thread some moron posts this. It's all so tiresome.

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>>534886202
Shut up Michael

>>534881139
religion provides nice and easy answers to the 4 things every human needs and desires: meaning, purpose, community and structure

>>534886358
Christniggers need to learn what the burden of proof is

>>534886273
>I do not care about your lack of beliefs
Yet here you are replying to me about it

>>534886273
>>Yet you've never humbled yourself to think you may be wrong
>I know that you are wrong because God tells me so
So no, you don't actually know humility or how to be humble
>This simple truth
Is that truth is unfaithful

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>>534886336
>Atheism is code word for a good goy
Christians are literally the only group who supports Jews, you retard.

>>534886336
Because Atheism is yet another modern religion for the shabbos goyim, the government/society makes up some of their idols that they worship. So they bend over backwards to be the best goyim for their rabbis.

>>534886248
You dont seem to be able to hold a coherent train of thought through a singular argument.

Laws are made and enforced by men, not gods. Christian groups here are trying to reduce the amount of personal freedom, not atheists. Its only a matter of time before muslims are joining the fight on the christians side. Albeit it might not be in the way christians want.

I personally like freedom.

>>534886391
That's exactly why it requires intense skepticism, not unwavering belief.

>>534886336
This.

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>>534886494
We are merely toying with you as you destroy yourself!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

>>534884837
>"there's nowhere to go from here"

you get a hobby.
you learned that santa wasnt delivering presents to every home on christmas.
thats all, its not deep.

christians believe in a poorly written story.
its not real. thats it, next you should learn to juggle.

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>>534886425
"truth is unfaithful" you should've just said this from the beginning, now I know that you can't even prove that you exist.

Just like every other gaytheist, you prove that:

Nothing you say matters
Nothing you do matters
Nothing you think matters

Fundamentals like this is why New Atheism died out and why nobody takes any of you seriously. You get dunked on stuff like being able to prove you exist (you can't).

No logical man would ever take Atheism seriously.

>>534886341
>a list of nonsense
If God wants to reach me then he can come and talk to me. Shouldn't be hard for an omnipotent being.

>>534886336
No, it's a generic term for lack of belief in a God. The rest of what you wrote is jewbrained gossipy bullshit

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>>534886506
>I personally like freedom
lmao, no you don't
you only like freedom for yourself, and have proven repeatedly in this thread that you can't even comprehend what freedom for an entire country actually entails

>>534886064
okay so what is the atheist non-god explanation for the origin of life?

>>534886655
>"truth is unfaithful" you should've just said this from the beginning,
I have. Are you a retard on purpose or is it natural?
>now I know that you can't even prove that you exist
You just proved it. And you will again when you reply with more retarded nonsense

>Nothing you say matters
>Nothing you do matters
>Nothing you think matters
To you, but oddly enough you keep replying to me

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>>534886676
Sure, bud

>>534886434
>b-but judaized American boomers
you have bigger fish to fry.

>>534886671
>If God wants to reach me then he can come and talk to me. Shouldn't be hard for an omnipotent being.

But what do you know about what God wants? Maybee the whole purpose of this current world is to find people of a specific kind, and searching for the truth about the metaphysic is the basic of what he is looking for.

You shouldn't assume anything about God, or the purpose of our current world

>>534886032
>Great so I dont have to believe in your holy book to be granted a spot in the afterlife. Got it.

yup, literally, you're going to heaven whether you like it or not

>I personally like the idea, where if for the sake of argument there is something after death, good people are rewarded.

there are no consequences for this playground. the elite that run this world are all religious for a reason, they worship satan and understand the "rules of the game" are that there are no rules, there is no "eternal hellfire punishment in hell", you can do good or do bad, and there are no consequences because this physical material realm is not that big of a deal

>>534886778
You think I'm really going to read every one of your posts? You have nothing valuable to offer, you and the others will likely just suicide within the next 5 years and that's that.

>>534886341
1 and 2 done among other religous texts in multiple languages.

3. I am not sure how I could understand the midn of a being who is omnicapable, please tell me more.

4. I have with no effect. I have also tried rituals and spells from multiple faiths and systems without any effect. Demons, ghosts and magical beings have all eluded me.

5. zero results.

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>>534886809
Right.

>>534886358
how about you refute it instead of just saying "i wish i didnt read this"? what is the rebuttal? atheism IS a belief system, atheism IS a religion. how do you define religion? the dogmatic principles of man taught to other men as though anyone knows what the fuck is going on, trying to discuss metaphysical ideas like "where are we", "what are we", and "where did we come from?"

>>534886767
Why do you need to know the origin? If science hasn't discovered, the "origin of life," that doesn't mean a jewish radical 2000 years ago was the son of our universe's creator that laid down essential teachings for humans. It means we should keep looking.

>>534886767
I don't speak for anyone else but myself and my answer is I don't know. It's the most honest answer one can give to that question.

>>534886834
>But what do you know about what God wants?
He can come tell me directly. Shouldn't be hard right?
>>534886834
>You shouldn't assume anything about God
The fucking irony

>>534886844
Okay

>>534885108
>>534885144
>>534885357
Smelly samefag nigger I can smell you through the screen stinkjeet

>>534886883
>You think I'm really going to read every one of your posts?
Here you are again lol

>>534886778
>Are you a retard on purpose or is it natural?
I'm guessing it's natural

>>534886724
>i-its not that atheism is neatly packed anti-christainity directed at European populations
I don't know you. you might be some commie, anti religious intellectual or whatever yourself but this is what most of your movement actually is.

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>>534886881
Why don't you come smite me, Mr. Tough Guy Almighty? Better yet, stop me from making this post. Ope you failed

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Christians just remember you're as batshit crazy as this dude

Every single Reddit level atheist I know is a lower-midwit. They're not trailer trash dumb, but the peak of the knowledge is nerd pop culture lore and beating fromsoft games. They have no skills that require actual intelligence, basically at the level of an above average teen.

>>534886742
Sure thing buddy

>>534886921
if you are going to discard the idea of a Creator making this place, despite how there are so many logical laws in place, and despite how it is clearly intentionally designed for humanity to thrive in, then it would require a better atlernative. is your alternative just "i dont know lol, i dont know anything but i know its 100% not god for sure!!!!" is your take? based on what?

>>534886889
>3. I am not sure how I could understand the midn of a being who is omnicapable, please tell me more.

It's pretty simple, God is a follower of the truth, and the truth is pretty basic when you know it. Basically, he wants you to become the best version of yourself, and help other do that too.

>4. I have with no effect. I have also tried rituals and spells from multiple faiths and systems without any effect. Demons, ghosts and magical beings have all eluded me.

Like i said, you need to ask things God want/can give you. This can be a bit tricky if you don't know the truth about metaphysic things

>>534887020
Atheism is just an opinion on the existence of God or gods. Anything out side of that has nothing to do with atheism

>>534886916
>what is the rebuttal? atheism IS a belief system, atheism IS a religion
Atheism is defined as the LACK of belief in a god or gods. Nothing more, nothing less. Since it's a LACK of belief, it cannot be a religion by definition.

There's your rebuttal. For the 1,000th fucking time.

>>534886952
ohh okay so the only thing an atheist DOES know is that 100% God definitely for sure does not exist but also when it comes to answering questions regarding why we're here, how we're here, what we're doing here, the answer is "idk lol, but DEFINITELY not god"?

>>534887020
You're talking about the definition of a word. Well it has a definition. A-theist, or non-theist. There is no "movement"; it's just a term for people who don't subscribe to deity bullshit. Go ahead and paint us as "Them" with the "Enemy" if it makes you feel better; I realize you theists like to believe whatever makes you feel good

>>534880858
Name an important atheist academic, scientist, artist, general, leader. The scientific method itself was invented by christian theologians.

>>534887129
a LACK of belief.. IN GODS.. is still a BELIEF overall. thats what makes it a religion, you don't even understand your own definition for things lol

"I don't believe vaccines are good for you" is a belief system that is anti-vaccine

"I don't believe there is an intelligent designer behind this reality" is a belief system that is anti-intelligent designer

>>534887072
Sure I do. That's why (You) responded to me, impotent wretch.

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>>534887142
>ohh okay so the only thing an atheist DOES know is that 100% God definitely for sure does not exist
No. Jesus fucking Christ you people are so fucking stupid.

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>>534880858
obligatory

>>534887237
that's what atheism vs agnosticism is retard

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>>534886834
>You shouldn't assume anything about God
>>534887111
>Basically, he wants you to become the best version of yourself, and help other do that too.
You morons contradict yourselves to damn much

>>534887142
>ohh okay so the only thing an atheist DOES know is that 100% God definitely for sure does not exist
That'd a gnostic atheist position. I'm an agnostic atheist.

>when it comes to answering questions regarding why we're here, how we're here, what we're doing here, the answer is "idk
For me, yes.

Did you miss the part where I said I don't speak for anyone else?

>>534881139
>>534881338
>>534881281
>>534882648
There's no such thing as an atheist. When you face your death you will be begging God to save you from oblivion. Nobody is an atheist, and nobody dies an atheist. You are just in denial that you aren't in control of your existence. Death will find you, and you will meet God. Did you waste your life spiting your creator? Did you scoff at God's creation? Did you squander God's infinite grace? You better figure all this out fast, because the hour of your death is always closer than you think.

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>>534887111
I too hope to become the best version of myself. I like your god.

You have a good day fren.

>>534887353
>There's no such thing as an atheist.
My lack if belief in God or gods says otherwise

And we're all born atheist

>>534887353
I am going to take my chances. Thank you :)

>>534881281
There would be nothing wrong with believing in magic, if there was any evidence for it. We reject religion because its very obviously fiction.

>>534887351
>>>534886834 (You)
>>You shouldn't assume anything about God
>>>534887111 (You)
>>Basically, he wants you to become the best version of yourself, and help other do that too.
>You morons contradict yourselves to damn much


I do not assume anything about God. I am someone who knows God, who knows how he created himself and the world (not in details, just the big lines) and knows the purpose of our current world. I do not assume it, i know as a matter of fact.

>>534887351
this is just pointless in my opinion, no idea what the difference between an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist is, they clearly both just have the same position of "dont know", doesn't really matter where you lean toward, there are people who KNOW therie is clearly an intelligent designer, and there is everybody else. the intellectually honest position is "dunno", the retard position is "there is no intelligent designer". everything around you is so logical and ordered and based, the idea that it exists due to pure chaos and chance is scientific fanfic

>>534887105
>despite how there are so many logical laws in place,
They're only "logical" insofar as we humans ascribe logic to them. The world simply is.
>and despite how it is clearly intentionally designed for humanity to thrive in,
That's a humongously bold claim. It's specifically not designed for humans to thrive in. We need food, water, and air, and we need to expend energy to get it. Is the world also "specifically designed" for lizards, spiders, fish, mammals to "thrive"? This is an absurd line of thought.
>then it would require a better atlernative
Why? To make you feel better? Believe it or not, humans don't have the answer to everything, and that's ok.
>>534887307
kek get bent you fuckin weirdo
>>534887422
Have fun with these jewbrained christcucks. I'm signing out for now

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>Christian 61% white
>Muslim 30% white
>Buddhist 25% white
>Hindu 1% white
>Atheism 75% white
Hmm I wonder why there is a correlation between religion and IQ.

>>534886512
fully agree. legitimate religious institutions are objectively no different than any other legitimate cult once you understand how they verbally and psychologically prey upon the weak and vulnerable

>>534881690
Personally I don't think a god can exist by definition. I consider one of the fundamental properties of "god" to be non-existence. Anything that could be proven to exist would not qualify as a god.

>>534887157
will you be able to explain if it's not ulterior motives around it, then why are you even making such a big deal about dying religion?

>>534887486
>I do not assume anything about God
Thays literally what you did

>I am someone who knows God
Not really.

>>534887516
>no idea what the difference between an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist is
Shame. The chart makes it really easy.

Agnostic atheist doesn't claim to know that God or gods don't exist. Rather they lack belief until convinced otherwise

Agnostic theist is the same except they still believe in God even they don't don't claim to know for sure.

>>534884490
shoot yourself gook

>>534887538
>That's a humongously bold claim. It's specifically not designed for humans to thrive in. We need food, water, and air, and we need to expend energy to get it.

uhh, okay, lets break this down
>we need food
where does ALL THE FOOD ON EARTH COME FROM? it literally just comes out of the dirt for free. where is dirt? fucking everywhere, you can't avoid it. EVERY SINGLE THING YOU HAVE EVER EATEN has grown from the dirt or eats something that grows from the dirt. every apple has an apple seed to grow you an apple tree so you have infinite apples. the birds will eat the seeds and shit them out for you and distribute them elsewhere, the bees literally will pollinate flowers etc so life can thrive

>water
water LITERALLY just falls from the sky because there's an insanely cool system in place where using electromagnetics we have billion-pound water clouds above us, and when they have enough electrical stimulation they literally begin to pour the water back down

>air
air literally unavoidable and everywhere all around you, provided for you by the other automatic processes

>energy
you are an electrical being, you have an electrical field, you require electricity to live, your brain works via activating neurons using electricity, and electricity is literally measurably and provably all around you. earth has a measurable electric field that gets STRONGER as you go up by 100v per meter, you can literally hook up a generator to the sky and get free unlimited energy

> Is the world also "specifically designed" for lizards, spiders, fish, mammals to "thrive"?
yup that's why there are billions of each of these things, because everything they need to exist is automatically provided for them without any work required. ultimately its humans that have domain over this place however

>>534887635
>Personally I don't think a god can exist by definition. I consider one of the fundamental properties of "god" to be non-existence. Anything that could be proven to exist would not qualify as a god.

How the fuck did you come to such conclusion? There is only one definition for God, the one who created this universe, is God, there is no need to be omnipotent or ominiscient, or good or bad. There is only one criteria to be God.

>>534885108
you're a tranny faggot, Michael

>>534887538
>Believe it or not, humans don't have the answer to everything, and that's ok.

if we walk past a fully built freshly painted barn and i said "wow, whoever built this barn was a talented craftsman", do you think its an intelligent take to say "you dont know that it was built by someone. it could just exist due to chaos and chance with no intelligent mind. maybe the storm went through a lumber yard and built this barn". that's about the position that atheists find themselves in, there is so much proof of an intelligent designer who made this place for us to thrive that to deny it basically is just saying "yea, im retarded"

"The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you" -werner heisenberg

>>534887769
>>I do not assume anything about God
>Thays literally what you did
>>I am someone who knows God
>Not really.

I do not assume anything, but you are free to believe otherwise

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>>534887769
you're still here?

Keep wasting time retard, you're perishing in Hellfire and thank Goodness for that. Suicidal fags like you are absolutely insufferable to be around in this life. You disgusting Baal worshippers only ever attempt to drag humanity down into destruction but your time is finally coming to and end.

You are the exact same as Netanyahu, Epstein, & Trump.

>>534887692
I'm discussing religion on /pol/. I was a victim of christian brainwashing but eventually woke up. So it just feels vindicating to BTFO christcucks on the net. And I like discussion to make sure my thoughts are correct.

The sooner religion dies for good, the sooner humanity goes to the stars. The internet atheist machine needs to re-arm for the new generation IMO

The Jews want (You) to be Christian, followinf (((their))) Ten Commandments. Jews may hate Christians, but they hate pagans, who don't follow "Noahide law," 1000x more.

Fedora tipping is just a midwit ideology retards of no importance adopt in order to feel smarter than others.

>>534887935
>I do not assume anything
You did

>>534887946
>boohoo hurt feelings
Lmao

>>534884490
>what is a negative?

>>534887930
They don't care about the Truth, they deny it because they're mentally ill & irrational. They know God is real, they just hate God.

>>534880858
>studies show
anon... have you ever noticed how psychiatrists are always kind of... off? Like it's actually them who need help? Ever noticed how they prescribe a bunch of pills to fix people's problems (except for schizophrenia) but then somehow the problems don't go away and somehow everybody who's on SSRIs is always way off the deep end?

have you ever been around scientists for longer than a couple hours, say, for years, and noticed how they don't actually follow the scientific method? Ever noticed how out one side of their mouth there's talk about evidence and reason and evolution and so in and then out the other side of their mouth they say that men can be women and women can be men just because they say so?

have you ever noticed how atheist materialist philosophers always avoid answering any questions about what morality is or why people should be "good" or where the universe came from nor have any answers for what consciousness actually is or why it exists etc?

but boy do they all like to talk about things that they don't actually have any answers or solutions for...

stupid is as stupid does, anon.
look very carefully at the results that these people get.
and compare it to how truly devout Christians live and how they're blessed.

>>534887981
Wait til you hear about Christianity in 2026

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But now science has opened the door to the unknown.

>>534888028
>They don't care about the Truth
Sure I do. I dont consider your personal feelings and opinions to he truth though

>>534887946
kek keep crying and invoking literal jewish deities

Fucking christcucks...

Everyone who isn't an abrahamic abuse golem can figure it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET07vTF_y94

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>>534887930
God is imaginary
so is nine million dollars
either one can still kill you quite dead

>>534887635
The way I see it that there is no reason why god(s) could not exists, expecially if we allow attributes that make them extraspatial and extracausal beings residing outside of the confines of time. I just personally have not seen ANY evidence of such being existing or interacting with the "mundane" world we all exist in.

How the fuck am I supposed to know if there is some omnipotent being hiding outside of universe? :D expecially because such being can stay hidden if it chooses to.

>>534887769
>Agnostic atheist doesn't claim to know that God or gods don't exist. Rather they lack belief until convinced otherwise

>Agnostic theist is the same except they still believe in God even they don't don't claim to know for sure

this is boiled down to the same shit, its just "I dont know". belief is just a replacement for not knowing. its super obvious we have an intelligent designer who made all these laws in order for earth to be self-sufficient and a place where humans can thrive. people just think "i dont know because i havent died and experienced the afterlife" is intellectually honest, someone who outright says "god cant/doesnt exist" is basically retarded, ESPECIALLY when they lean on modern science for their basis

your beliefs should be based on something. what reason is there to believe that this place was made without an intelligent designer? what is the basis for the belief system that there is no creator? its also a copout when people refuse to answer the more complicated questions like "how could life come from non-life?". there is zero basis for this happening in our reality with our human understanding of things, all questions kind of point to there being something bigger and more capable than us able to manipulate in reality that us humans cannot comprehend

>>534888010
Belief is defined as a mental attitude of acceptance or assent toward a proposition without the full intellectual knowledge required to guarantee its truth.

If you believe there is no God, or you believe there is a God, if you have no absolute proof about it, both case are belief.

>>534888008
>>534888082
quit begging for my attention, faggot. Ywnbaw so join the troon crowd.

>>534888127
Kvetch more you tranny rabbi. You all will perish, and thank God for that.

>>534887967
yeah whatever. just know where to draw the line at BTFOing your own American kin. also it's not religion bounding you to the earth.

>>534884837
>>534885295
this and this

well said, anons

>>534887210
It's not a belief "system" at all, it's the lack of one. But for the sake of argument, let's pretend it is - I'll phrase it this way to make it more of a belief:

"I believe that god does not exist."

Now tell me how this is a religion. I'm genuinely curious...

>>534887824
> How the fuck did you come to such conclusion
Its not something I decided upon, rather its something I became aware of. My language center associates the property "non-existence" with the word god. It developed this way naturally, I had not conscious control over that. I reverse engineered the definition from self-observation.

>>534888181
Why don't you work on forming coherent sentences before diving into epistemology, eh Mikey boy?

Do you have a positive belief that there's no such thing as an invisible flying spaghetti monster? Care to present your proof for the class?

>>534887309
Nope. Look at this chart and learn something >>534887351

>>534888181
I lack the belief in the existence of supernatural beings until proven such beings exist. I am an atheist.

Also arguing semantics is not a good look.

>>534886137
>points at wolves in sheep's clothing and claims that sheep are evil
this is the vaunted atheist intellect? Unable to see through such an obvious disguise? Really?

>>534888264
Don't forget you're posting from one of our southern states right now. Banter aside,
>it's not religion bounding you to the earth.
Well no, we call that force gravity. What did (You) mean by this?

>>534888290
because its a belief system made by man.. that makes it a religion. saying you do not think there's a god but are not sure just makes you agnostic

there is no such thing as a "lack of a belief system", you could say "i dont know" which makes you agnostic, you could say "there is a creator" which makes you intelligent, or you could say "there is no intelligent designer behind this reality" which makes you retarded. because then all of a sudden ALL of the laws of the universe simply exist "just because", when required to answer how life came from non life the answer is "idk lol", etc. the mainstream scientific answers to help support and promote atheism are all provably pseudoscience (age of the universe, big bang, evolution).

>>534888178
>what reason is there to believe that this place was made without an intelligent designer?
What reason is there to think it is? And your response is going to be some illogical presupposition based on personal feelings and bias.

>>534880858
So let it be known for all of /pol/ to understand.

That all atheists are simply tranny predditor rabbis who hate the Truth and wish to die.

Dunk on every single faggot Atheist, remind them that they only use /pol/ to escape their suicidal ideation.

This Atheist mind virus must be completely purged from our ranks.

/pol/ is and forever will be known as a digital bastion of the Kingdom of Heaven.

>>534888213
>quit begging for my attention, faggot
He says while giving me 2 yous lol

>>534888213
Keep crying and calling me bad names referencing Hebrew fairy tales. It's funny

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>>534882575
didnt newton spend the last like 40 years of his life as a schizophrenic kabbalist, having lost the respect of his peers?

>>534888213
>Ywnbaw
Correct :^)

>>534881053
Based and genuinely redpilled. Blind followers, religious or atheist, are too afraid to actually look and see.

>>534888386
i dont care how many genders of atheism you want to invent, its very obvious that to any logical mind there is "i believe in a creator", "i do not believe in a creator", and "i do not know". no need for anything beyond that, you could make a chart with 64 subcategories but it is irrelevant to me

the issue is that people think atheism is not a belief system. it is inherently a religion, it objectively is just the dogma of man. atheism is a completely untenable position intellectually, it is the literal retard position to have, because it seeks to answer literally none of the important questions to life. you ask an atheist "how do you think life came from non-life?" and they go "i dunno lol but it wasnt god". if you dont know or have a replacement, how could you possibly make truth claims about what 100% is or is not?

>>534887880
>lion
>cautious hunter
>strike when there is opportinity
>run when there is danger
>hunt only enough to eat
>sleep without worry

>deer
>clueless grass eater
>eat tiny
>eat all days
>stay in a group to avoid being hunted
>can't sleep due to fear of the hunter

Like it or not. The pattern behavior of most gamblers, atheists, and stock/crypto traders are resembles the Prey animal more than the Predator

>>534888398
>I lack the belief in the existence of supernatural beings until proven such beings exist. I am an atheist.
>Also arguing semantics is not a good look.

Well, i just don't understand why people refuse to say they believe there is no God.. If you simply don't know the truth about the answer if there is a God or not, then you are not an atheist, you are agnostic

>>534880858
>The surname Geggel has its roots in the Germanic and Yiddish-speaking communities, where it is believed to have originated as a diminutive or affectionate form of a name, possibly linked to the word Geggel, which can mean little one or youngster.
BROTHER WHEN I SAY EVERY TIME, I MEAN EVERY DAMN TIME

>>534886778
>Are you a retard on purpose or is it natural?
now you're just resorting to name calling?
I stopped reading there and just marked you and your whole worldview as something to be ignored.

and so I'm out of this thread

>>534888418
Which brand of Christianity is the right one?
>inb4 the one you belong too
Kek

>Unable to see through such an obvious disguise? Really?
They're sinners, just like you.

>>534888502
well for one we have life here, and have not been able to figure out how to create life.. so the fact that life exists and came into existence from non-life is already quite telling that there is some sort of influence. secondly, this place follows a bunch of LAWS and RULES. how can you have laws without a law-maker? there is so much structure and order, the same apple seed will make the same apple tree wherever you plant it. the food and water are automatic, the urge for life to breed is ingrained into us, etc. if YOU were a Creator trying to automate earth as a little game, the way its currently set up is a super good way to do it

the alternative is "everything we have that exists is just here because of good luck and RNG lol, we got lucky!"

>>534888574
The dude has a tag refering himself as a saint. You are wasting your time.

Not all can be reasoned with.

>>534888547
You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions