>>534880858There needs to be a balance.
>>534880858>>534880916Both camps are terrified of us bringing scientific occultism back.
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>>534880858The question should read: why do wise people not believe in something implausible just because it may seem desirable?
>>534880858Its not that atheism makes people smarter, its the fact that smart people dont believe in magic.Also, both smart and dumb people are capable of evil. Atheism does not mean a person is good, religiosity does not make anyone a good person.If you need threats of hellfire to be a decent person, you are infact, evil in your core.
>>534880858We are smarter in general - this has been confirmed by a few studies, actually. We also, on average, know more about religion than people who claim to be religious. Make of it what you will, but it is what it is.
>>534880858Yes that's why it's a care principal of Marxism.
>>534880858To become an atheist is unironically to become more closed-minded
>>534881489I am open to deities being proved to exists. So far all that I have been offered is ancient myths and anecdotal experiences that that can be explained by just regular natural stuff.I personally would like the idea of there being a supernatural side to existence. So far I am unconvinced, therefore an atheist.
I'm a fox, Morty! Wabadadubdub
>>534881281Technology may as well be universe approved magic
>>534881489Bullshit. People who are born into religion and never question it are FAR more closed minded that atheists like me who were raised to believe in god but became atheist due to literally being more open minded, getting an education, and considering all other viewpoints.
>>534880858I have a proof that a god didn't exist eternally. That's why I'm a gnostic atheist.
>>534881281Religion can make bad people do good things, but it can also make good people so bad things.
>>534881840Very true. The saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" comes to mind.
>>534881743Well I am an engineer so tech really does not seem like magic to me mate.>>534881840True. I kind of like the more secularised version of christianity where people are taught empathy and shit, its a shame there are so many fundamentalists in the west.
>>534880858>>534881377im sure your average filthy green haired armpit atheistic unhingedtroon is smarter than, for example, Newton>>534881978certain percentage of fundamentalists ensures preservation of the whole
>>534880858smart people know that religion is a way for the elite to control the masses
>>534882575Love how you idiots have to back hundreds of years to find religious scientists during times when EVERYONE was religious and we hadn't even discovered evolution or germs yet.
>>534882648the elites are masonic which require believing in a creator
>>534882575Well yeah. I think there was some religious "thinker" who said something along the lines of "Get em while they are young".Its almost impossible to reverse brainswashing that starts from infancy.Also wasnt Newton a major occultist?
>>534882575Also love how you cut out the part that showed Einstein wasn't religious as well.
>>534882575>NewtonHe's welcome to his personal feelings and opinions
>>534882767
>>534882575Also what do you think Spinozas god is compared to your regular run of the mill bible thumpers deity?
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>>534882921You dummies are so gullible
>>534880858Every single atheist who refuses to repent of their atheism will spend eternity roasting and crying in hell.
>>534881139Throw baseless claims in the trash 2026
>>534882889and also the top 10 most brilliant minds in history, I can also mention descartes, pascal or da vinci, which proves your ‘only idiots believe in god’ falacy is as retarded as you think the rest are.
>>534883001You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>534883001Sure thing buddy :)
>>534882921>Dr. KimAlready watched like, 4 fantastic debunks on him. Want me to link a few?
>>534882937> spinozas godis still a god, so not atheist, can your peanut sized brain grasp the difference?
>>534883076>which proves your ‘only idiots believe in god’ falacy I never said this. I firmly believe that the belief in God was needed to move science forward.
>>534883223Okay. You have a nice day buddy.
>>534883277> needed to more science forwardyou’re so obtuse it hurts
>>534883158this is my last capture im doing wasting my time with all of you retarded ‘geniuses’
>>534880858Ive never seen a smart atheist.
>>534880858Yea atheism and childlessness. We're so SMART!
>>534883414Why exactly? Try using an actual argument next reply kiddo
>>534883488you wouldnt get it
>>534880858Exterminate all mongrels.
>>534883523Which really means you don't get it
>>534881777Most atheists are wicked anti-White shitlibs. They're also retarded cattle who should be culled.
>>534883455>grifters target religious people with claims only they would believe>this person did this therefore he was right about something elseTheism leads you astray
>>534883606you sound low IQ
>>534881777but atheists ARE the people born into religion. older people into religion convert by themselves. quit projecting tranny fuckernothing s open minded about repeating jewish propaganda and shoddy arguments mindlessly, sliding stuff in your asshole isnt open mindedness. yo ure supposed to have brakes, doubt, and not drink any jewish cum that is offered to youu know what antithesis is ? you never applied it. ever. you dont even know how to think suka>>534882648opposite of the truth
>>534883886>but atheists ARE the people born into religionAmd yet we are all born atheist
>>534883972we re born without knowing how to speak fucktard
>>534883886>opposite of the truth
>>534884065>we re born without knowingExactly. Which means lack of belief, which is atheism fucktard
>>534883455Holy fuck, are you really pulling out the Langam card? lmfao!!!!!!!I have even better debunks of him. You do realize that any "IQ" over about 160 is highly unreliable and almost meaningless, right? The tests don't go that high.
>>534880858atheislam is a vessel to weaken a country's religion in preparation for the installation of islam
>>534883455https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcMvwrM6TUQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDmcoYpTTbEHere are your heroes! Watch if you dare.
>>534880858wait, you're serious?Out of any ideology to choose from, Atheism is hands down completely delusional and separated from reality. It's impossible for a gaytheist to exist and that's the funny part, people call themselves something that is completely self-contradictory. "Atheists" are a product of cultural Marxist brainwashing with cognitive dissonance in the end.
>>534884133Atheism is a belief. The belief that there is no higher being that created the world and us.
>>534884245No. Fuck all abrahamic faiths equally
>>534880858>I posted it again!so did I lol
>>534884494Finland bares its pussy for Islamic cock unfortunately.Islam isn't even an Abrahamic religion, only Christianity is Abrahamic. Of course these pagan-"atheist" dogs can't even add 2 + 2 together though.Islam is yet another one of your pagan idols that take turns raping you slave cucks of Satan.
>>534884440You are comparing the want to end selfs suffering to the fear that ending it leads to eternity of suffering.Also lacking faith until the fact is proven is not an ideology, retard. Its common sense.Are you stupid or doing that intentionally?
>>534884648Sure thing buddy.
>>534884494lmao you would never say that to a Muslim's face and everyone knows itatheists only attack Christians, because atheists are bullies and Christians don't fight back
>>534884657Eternity of suffering doesn't even exist, once again you're delusional and blind.This is why you are stuck in your cycle of self-hatred and suicidal ideation, it's over for you dogs.You have no logical reasoning, you are simply a nigger pigeon strutting over the chessboard.
>>534884490>Atheism is a belief.Disbelief/lack of belief >The belief that there is no higher being that created the world and us.Which is still a lack of belief
>>534884624N-koreans think the Kim family is magical. Its not an atheist society
>>534880858Atheists are not especially smart. I was stuck in the atheist trap back when I was younger. But it was a false peak.You get to that point and think "there's nowhere to go from here". But you've got to reverse some of your 'progress' and descend a bit to find your path back up. The problem is, that requires humility.And there's the problem. That's why most people get stuck in atheism.
>>534884766I have. You just need to think that I have some wierd animosity towards specifically christianty so you can keep pretending as if you are being persecuted.
>>534884766I'm an atheist and I would happily join the christians in the final crusade
>>534884770Im not suicidal and I enjoy existing.
>>534884837>That's why most people get stuck in atheism.I certainly don't feel stuck. I feel freer and happier than I ever was when I was trying with all my might to "find god."
>>534884976Same.
Smart people realize some book written thousands of years ago by coin clipping Jews is not a reliable source.
The reason atheists are on average smarter is because the upper middle rung of intelligence is just intelligent enough to intuit adopting whatever institutional dogma is pushed for their own benefit. That’s it. It’s simply that upper midwits have no real principles and are easily programmed by zog.
>>534884806and south korea is actually among the least religious countries. 15-20% batshit megachurch retards that nobody likes and 80%+ atheists
>>534885053There is no field of knowledge which isn’t based on an old book you absolute pseud.
>>534885108Give me your address nigger
>>534884787No it's not a lack of belief, like i said, you believe there is no higher power who created the world and us"The word belief means an acceptance that something is true, real, or exists, especially without absolute proof."
>>534885144You too queer
>>534884837ding ding ding we have a winner.God humbles the proud and exalts the humble. Pride is the root of all Sin and Humility is the root of all Virtue.That is how they remain ignorant in their arrogance and arrogant in their ignorance.But always remember, this, it's not a problem of intellect but a problem of the heart. Atheists know that God exists yet deny the Truth because they are evil. It is up to God to have mercy on them, and to give them spiritual life, so that they are no longer spiritually blind & deaf.>>534884956You don't have to lie to me or yourself. Many of your kind is suffering & suicidal, your path of destruction remains a path of destruction, "those who hate me love death." You clearly hate Christ, who is Life itself, and so you hate life, and love death. You are only alive now because of the God you hate still choosing to sustain you.And you still dare to behave so ignorantly?
>>534885115It wont register to the dude I replied to. Some are beyond help.
>>534885180>you believe there is no higher power who created the world and usWhich is still a lack of belief.
>>534884888there are many things you can lie about on anonymous Kurdistani zutt-buggering forums, but pretending you've had your head chopped off by taking a stand against Islam isn't one of them
>>534885053you're not very smart.
>>534885115South Korea is as fucked as Japan, you pagans sure are funny. You're parading around countries that are dying as something glorious.
>>534885295Its pretty funny how your faith requires me to be unhappy :D Eat shit retard. I am going to on enjoying life as the atheist sonofabitch I have always been.I hate Jesus as much as I hate Gandalf mate. Satan scares me as much as Sauron does.Have a nice day, buddy.
>>534885295>Humility is the root of all VirtueDo you ever humble yourself that your personal feelings about God are wrong?
>>534881690All of creation and life is proof enough but you only know this life and are accustomed to it thus taking it for granted. Do you need some movie tier shit to happen or dragonball z fight in the sky?
>>534885458This. Well said.
>>534885510>Do you need some movie tier shit to happen or dragonball z fight in the sky?Right? It's like saying you need to believe a virgen woman can give birth, burning bushes talk or that a man lived inside a whale to name a few
>>534885458You sound 14 in this post not gonna lie. You've gone completely unhinged, good luck.>>534885350Atheists do not exist, just because you're too deluded to realize that you also serve a master doesn't mean that reality will cater to your warped irrationality.>>534885468You're not even making any points with this one, what are you even trying to say?
>>534885353You claimed that I would not say fuck "your religion" to a muslim. You are wrong.To be fair if I were to travel to a fundamentalist islamic shithole I would not be going around trying to get a religious police to whip my ass. Thankfully I live in a country where saying fuck christianity, islam and judaism is allowed. Fun fact, its the christians here who are trtying to keep the remnants of blasphemy laws.
>>534885510You lack the faculties to have this conversation
Btw, if there is an atheist here who trully wish to know the truth about weither God exist or not, i can provide you with a step by step guide to prove that he does indeed exist, but it require work on your part, so don't ask me if you are not willing to put the work required
>>534885458>>534885519nowhere does scripture "require you to be unhappy" this is just a retard take because you hate religion but don't understand that atheism is a religion. you have a belief system based on literal nothing, you believe what exactly? the big bang? you think its "scientifically proven" that nothingness exploded 14 billion years ago"? does it make logical sense to you that "humanity evolved from a slime which exists because lightning struck a rock hundreds of millions of years ago which made an evolving slime"? "enjoying life" is the whole message in scripture, the bible even says you dont need to read the bible, Jesus specifically says the first people blessed to go to heaven are those that are poor in spirit (aka people like you), it's actually incredibly based that there's a Creator of the universe AND he is cool and lets you have free will and do whatever you want in this little playground
>>534885700Lets go
>>534885632>Atheists do not existMy lack of belief in God or gods says otherwise. As long as their is theism then there will be atheism >>534885632>You're not even making any points with this one, what are you even trying to say?Pretending not to understand I see. Humility is the root of virtue? Yet you've never humbled yourself to think you may be wrong, while simultaneously telling others they are.
>>534885829You're going to get a really stupid answer. I can't wait lol
>>534880858Athiest think by saying evolution is a fact makes it true and not a theoretical belief
>>534885829Are you asking just because you are curious or you trully wish to find the truth about this matter ?
If atheists are so smart, then how come there hasn't been any civilization that was atheistic? The only reason atheists thrive today is because the faithful tolerate their existence.
>>534880858ATHEISM IS A RELIGION!atheism REQUIRES blind faith in the teachings of mystics making claims you can NEVER verify for yourself. "yea, we exist because nothingness exploded 14 billion years ago" is a religious belief. its not based on anything empirical. nobody has traveled back in time. nobody knows what happened 200 years ago, let alone 2000000000 years ago, let alone beyond that. and you certainly can't find those answers looking through a telescopeevolution is PROVABLY A HOAX, so the idea of "human life originated from the evolution process" is nonsense, pure religious fanfic considering THE PROCESS OF EVOLUTION IS YET TO BE PROVEN! thats why its a theory, nobody has EVER demonstrated how one species can turn into another
>>534885700>>534885894Truth is unfaithful.
>>534885441if fertility rate is the only metric that determines how fucked a country is then your god wants a future of 70IQ africans and jeets
>>534885835Hahaha sure tranny but you lost hahaha
>>534885818Great so I dont have to believe in your holy book to be granted a spot in the afterlife. Got it.Also please, please, stop getting your information about scientific theories from creationists. You not doing yourseld any favours when talking about these subjects.I personally like the idea, where if for the sake of argument there is something after death, good people are rewarded.
>>534885928>evolutionHas nothing to do with atheism. You, like many other, have a fundamental misunderstanding of what atheism is
>>534885894I am curious. I am ready to do the work. Please lead me to the capital G god
>>534885956Why did you answer that to me ?
>>534886024Amen sister
>>534886104Because it applies
>>534882921He made a video in English and he made some of the most retarded arguments for Christianity I've ever heard. One of them was like "Jesus is the messiah. We know this because the son of God wouldn't lie." It was something retarded like that. He's a complete fraud.
>>534886104Like I said, I am curious and if you read mu previous posts you will notice I already stated that I like the idea of there being a supernatural side to existence. So far I am unconvinced, therefore my atheism
>>534885633>Thankfully I live in a country where saying fuck christianity, islam and judaism is allowed.by whose laws?you do know that laws that aren't enforced are laws that don't exist, right? and even laws made by a caveman pedophile 700 years ago still do exist when his death cult still enforces the death penalty for breaking them
>>534884976>I feel freer and happier than I ever was when I was trying with all my might to "find god."You're supposed to repent, did you not do this? Did you not genuinely beg God for mercy on your soul?Of course you won't "find God" when your heart was never in the pursuit.>>534885835>My lack of belief in God or gods says otherwiseI do not care about your lack of beliefs, you are serving a master, you are a pagan. This simple truth completely invalidates atheism as a position as it is impossible to not serve a master.Also, "as long as there* is theism">Yet you've never humbled yourself to think you may be wrongI know that you are wrong because God tells me so. Why would I listen to delusional, lying men who are leading others into hellfire when I could humble myself and listen to God instead?>>534885985Your "atheistic" countries are dying lol. All you "atheists" can do is kill yourselves off both individually & collectively.Follow your atheist leaders (Mao Zedong, Stalin, all the rest of the commie dictators etc.) off the cliff why not?
>>534885985>if fertility rate is the only metric that determines how fucked a country is then your god wants a future of 70IQ africans and jeetsJeets are in sub-replacement fertility as of a few years ago. Even most afroniggers are in sub-replacement. Only central Africa is in positive growth, but that looks like it could end soon. Things are bad.
>>534880858Atheism is code word for a good goy. I am not defending religion but people that refer to themselves as atheists, are not ones from lack of belief, they are just bending backwards for every single cancerous shit straight out of Jewish think-tanks.
>>534886100"Ask and you shall recieve."It's very simple.1. Read the bible2. Study the bible3. Understand God mind4. Pray for things you believe God want you to have5. RecieveWhen your prayer will be answered, you will pbly think it's a coincidence at first, and the more your prayers will be answered, the more you will be convinced.The trick is to know God to be able to ask things that you are certain he can/want to give you
The correlation is due to race. Atheism is nearly exclusively whites. Other religions have shitskins.
>>534885818>atheism is a religion. you have a belief system based on literal nothingWill this tired, weak, and thoroughly debunked talking point EVER end? Every single thread some moron posts this. It's all so tiresome.
>>534886202Shut up Michael
>>534881139religion provides nice and easy answers to the 4 things every human needs and desires: meaning, purpose, community and structure
>>534886358Christniggers need to learn what the burden of proof is
>>534886273>I do not care about your lack of beliefsYet here you are replying to me about it >>534886273>>Yet you've never humbled yourself to think you may be wrong>I know that you are wrong because God tells me soSo no, you don't actually know humility or how to be humble >This simple truth Is that truth is unfaithful
>>534886336>Atheism is code word for a good goyChristians are literally the only group who supports Jews, you retard.
>>534886336Because Atheism is yet another modern religion for the shabbos goyim, the government/society makes up some of their idols that they worship. So they bend over backwards to be the best goyim for their rabbis.
>>534886248You dont seem to be able to hold a coherent train of thought through a singular argument.Laws are made and enforced by men, not gods. Christian groups here are trying to reduce the amount of personal freedom, not atheists. Its only a matter of time before muslims are joining the fight on the christians side. Albeit it might not be in the way christians want.I personally like freedom.
>>534886391That's exactly why it requires intense skepticism, not unwavering belief.
>>534886336This.
>>534886494We are merely toying with you as you destroy yourself!MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>534884837>"there's nowhere to go from here"you get a hobby. you learned that santa wasnt delivering presents to every home on christmas. thats all, its not deep. christians believe in a poorly written story. its not real. thats it, next you should learn to juggle.
>>534886425"truth is unfaithful" you should've just said this from the beginning, now I know that you can't even prove that you exist.Just like every other gaytheist, you prove that:Nothing you say mattersNothing you do mattersNothing you think mattersFundamentals like this is why New Atheism died out and why nobody takes any of you seriously. You get dunked on stuff like being able to prove you exist (you can't).No logical man would ever take Atheism seriously.
>>534886341>a list of nonsense If God wants to reach me then he can come and talk to me. Shouldn't be hard for an omnipotent being.
>>534886336No, it's a generic term for lack of belief in a God. The rest of what you wrote is jewbrained gossipy bullshit
>>534886506>I personally like freedomlmao, no you don'tyou only like freedom for yourself, and have proven repeatedly in this thread that you can't even comprehend what freedom for an entire country actually entails
>>534886064okay so what is the atheist non-god explanation for the origin of life?
>>534886655>"truth is unfaithful" you should've just said this from the beginning,I have. Are you a retard on purpose or is it natural?>now I know that you can't even prove that you existYou just proved it. And you will again when you reply with more retarded nonsense >Nothing you say matters>Nothing you do matters>Nothing you think mattersTo you, but oddly enough you keep replying to me
>>534886676Sure, bud
>>534886434>b-but judaized American boomersyou have bigger fish to fry.
>>534886671>If God wants to reach me then he can come and talk to me. Shouldn't be hard for an omnipotent being.But what do you know about what God wants? Maybee the whole purpose of this current world is to find people of a specific kind, and searching for the truth about the metaphysic is the basic of what he is looking for.You shouldn't assume anything about God, or the purpose of our current world
>>534886032>Great so I dont have to believe in your holy book to be granted a spot in the afterlife. Got it.yup, literally, you're going to heaven whether you like it or not>I personally like the idea, where if for the sake of argument there is something after death, good people are rewarded.there are no consequences for this playground. the elite that run this world are all religious for a reason, they worship satan and understand the "rules of the game" are that there are no rules, there is no "eternal hellfire punishment in hell", you can do good or do bad, and there are no consequences because this physical material realm is not that big of a deal
>>534886778You think I'm really going to read every one of your posts? You have nothing valuable to offer, you and the others will likely just suicide within the next 5 years and that's that.
>>5348863411 and 2 done among other religous texts in multiple languages.3. I am not sure how I could understand the midn of a being who is omnicapable, please tell me more.4. I have with no effect. I have also tried rituals and spells from multiple faiths and systems without any effect. Demons, ghosts and magical beings have all eluded me.5. zero results.
>>534886809Right.
>>534886358how about you refute it instead of just saying "i wish i didnt read this"? what is the rebuttal? atheism IS a belief system, atheism IS a religion. how do you define religion? the dogmatic principles of man taught to other men as though anyone knows what the fuck is going on, trying to discuss metaphysical ideas like "where are we", "what are we", and "where did we come from?"
>>534886767Why do you need to know the origin? If science hasn't discovered, the "origin of life," that doesn't mean a jewish radical 2000 years ago was the son of our universe's creator that laid down essential teachings for humans. It means we should keep looking.
>>534886767I don't speak for anyone else but myself and my answer is I don't know. It's the most honest answer one can give to that question.>>534886834>But what do you know about what God wants?He can come tell me directly. Shouldn't be hard right?>>534886834>You shouldn't assume anything about GodThe fucking irony
>>534886844Okay
>>534885108>>534885144>>534885357Smelly samefag nigger I can smell you through the screen stinkjeet
>>534886883>You think I'm really going to read every one of your posts?Here you are again lol>>534886778>Are you a retard on purpose or is it natural?I'm guessing it's natural
>>534886724>i-its not that atheism is neatly packed anti-christainity directed at European populationsI don't know you. you might be some commie, anti religious intellectual or whatever yourself but this is what most of your movement actually is.
>>534886881Why don't you come smite me, Mr. Tough Guy Almighty? Better yet, stop me from making this post. Ope you failedHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAChristians just remember you're as batshit crazy as this dude
Every single Reddit level atheist I know is a lower-midwit. They're not trailer trash dumb, but the peak of the knowledge is nerd pop culture lore and beating fromsoft games. They have no skills that require actual intelligence, basically at the level of an above average teen.
>>534886742Sure thing buddy
>>534886921if you are going to discard the idea of a Creator making this place, despite how there are so many logical laws in place, and despite how it is clearly intentionally designed for humanity to thrive in, then it would require a better atlernative. is your alternative just "i dont know lol, i dont know anything but i know its 100% not god for sure!!!!" is your take? based on what?
>>534886889>3. I am not sure how I could understand the midn of a being who is omnicapable, please tell me more.It's pretty simple, God is a follower of the truth, and the truth is pretty basic when you know it. Basically, he wants you to become the best version of yourself, and help other do that too.>4. I have with no effect. I have also tried rituals and spells from multiple faiths and systems without any effect. Demons, ghosts and magical beings have all eluded me.Like i said, you need to ask things God want/can give you. This can be a bit tricky if you don't know the truth about metaphysic things
>>534887020Atheism is just an opinion on the existence of God or gods. Anything out side of that has nothing to do with atheism
>>534886916>what is the rebuttal? atheism IS a belief system, atheism IS a religionAtheism is defined as the LACK of belief in a god or gods. Nothing more, nothing less. Since it's a LACK of belief, it cannot be a religion by definition.There's your rebuttal. For the 1,000th fucking time.
>>534886952ohh okay so the only thing an atheist DOES know is that 100% God definitely for sure does not exist but also when it comes to answering questions regarding why we're here, how we're here, what we're doing here, the answer is "idk lol, but DEFINITELY not god"?
>>534887020You're talking about the definition of a word. Well it has a definition. A-theist, or non-theist. There is no "movement"; it's just a term for people who don't subscribe to deity bullshit. Go ahead and paint us as "Them" with the "Enemy" if it makes you feel better; I realize you theists like to believe whatever makes you feel good
>>534880858Name an important atheist academic, scientist, artist, general, leader. The scientific method itself was invented by christian theologians.
>>534887129a LACK of belief.. IN GODS.. is still a BELIEF overall. thats what makes it a religion, you don't even understand your own definition for things lol"I don't believe vaccines are good for you" is a belief system that is anti-vaccine"I don't believe there is an intelligent designer behind this reality" is a belief system that is anti-intelligent designer
>>534887072Sure I do. That's why (You) responded to me, impotent wretch.
>>534887084
>>534887142>ohh okay so the only thing an atheist DOES know is that 100% God definitely for sure does not existNo. Jesus fucking Christ you people are so fucking stupid.
>>534880858obligatory
>>534887237that's what atheism vs agnosticism is retard
>>534886834>You shouldn't assume anything about God>>534887111>Basically, he wants you to become the best version of yourself, and help other do that too.You morons contradict yourselves to damn much >>534887142>ohh okay so the only thing an atheist DOES know is that 100% God definitely for sure does not existThat'd a gnostic atheist position. I'm an agnostic atheist. >when it comes to answering questions regarding why we're here, how we're here, what we're doing here, the answer is "idkFor me, yes. Did you miss the part where I said I don't speak for anyone else?
>>534881139>>534881338>>534881281>>534882648There's no such thing as an atheist. When you face your death you will be begging God to save you from oblivion. Nobody is an atheist, and nobody dies an atheist. You are just in denial that you aren't in control of your existence. Death will find you, and you will meet God. Did you waste your life spiting your creator? Did you scoff at God's creation? Did you squander God's infinite grace? You better figure all this out fast, because the hour of your death is always closer than you think.
>>534887111I too hope to become the best version of myself. I like your god.You have a good day fren.
>>534887353>There's no such thing as an atheist.My lack if belief in God or gods says otherwise And we're all born atheist
>>534887353I am going to take my chances. Thank you :)
>>534881281There would be nothing wrong with believing in magic, if there was any evidence for it. We reject religion because its very obviously fiction.
>>534887351>>>534886834 (You)>>You shouldn't assume anything about God>>>534887111 (You)>>Basically, he wants you to become the best version of yourself, and help other do that too.>You morons contradict yourselves to damn muchI do not assume anything about God. I am someone who knows God, who knows how he created himself and the world (not in details, just the big lines) and knows the purpose of our current world. I do not assume it, i know as a matter of fact.
>>534887351this is just pointless in my opinion, no idea what the difference between an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist is, they clearly both just have the same position of "dont know", doesn't really matter where you lean toward, there are people who KNOW therie is clearly an intelligent designer, and there is everybody else. the intellectually honest position is "dunno", the retard position is "there is no intelligent designer". everything around you is so logical and ordered and based, the idea that it exists due to pure chaos and chance is scientific fanfic
>>534887105>despite how there are so many logical laws in place,They're only "logical" insofar as we humans ascribe logic to them. The world simply is. >and despite how it is clearly intentionally designed for humanity to thrive in,That's a humongously bold claim. It's specifically not designed for humans to thrive in. We need food, water, and air, and we need to expend energy to get it. Is the world also "specifically designed" for lizards, spiders, fish, mammals to "thrive"? This is an absurd line of thought.>then it would require a better atlernativeWhy? To make you feel better? Believe it or not, humans don't have the answer to everything, and that's ok.>>534887307kek get bent you fuckin weirdo>>534887422Have fun with these jewbrained christcucks. I'm signing out for now
>Christian 61% white>Muslim 30% white>Buddhist 25% white>Hindu 1% white>Atheism 75% whiteHmm I wonder why there is a correlation between religion and IQ.
>>534886512fully agree. legitimate religious institutions are objectively no different than any other legitimate cult once you understand how they verbally and psychologically prey upon the weak and vulnerable
>>534881690Personally I don't think a god can exist by definition. I consider one of the fundamental properties of "god" to be non-existence. Anything that could be proven to exist would not qualify as a god.
>>534887157will you be able to explain if it's not ulterior motives around it, then why are you even making such a big deal about dying religion?
>>534887486>I do not assume anything about GodThays literally what you did>I am someone who knows GodNot really. >>534887516>no idea what the difference between an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist isShame. The chart makes it really easy. Agnostic atheist doesn't claim to know that God or gods don't exist. Rather they lack belief until convinced otherwise Agnostic theist is the same except they still believe in God even they don't don't claim to know for sure.
>>534884490shoot yourself gook
>>534887538>That's a humongously bold claim. It's specifically not designed for humans to thrive in. We need food, water, and air, and we need to expend energy to get it. uhh, okay, lets break this down>we need foodwhere does ALL THE FOOD ON EARTH COME FROM? it literally just comes out of the dirt for free. where is dirt? fucking everywhere, you can't avoid it. EVERY SINGLE THING YOU HAVE EVER EATEN has grown from the dirt or eats something that grows from the dirt. every apple has an apple seed to grow you an apple tree so you have infinite apples. the birds will eat the seeds and shit them out for you and distribute them elsewhere, the bees literally will pollinate flowers etc so life can thrive>waterwater LITERALLY just falls from the sky because there's an insanely cool system in place where using electromagnetics we have billion-pound water clouds above us, and when they have enough electrical stimulation they literally begin to pour the water back down>airair literally unavoidable and everywhere all around you, provided for you by the other automatic processes>energyyou are an electrical being, you have an electrical field, you require electricity to live, your brain works via activating neurons using electricity, and electricity is literally measurably and provably all around you. earth has a measurable electric field that gets STRONGER as you go up by 100v per meter, you can literally hook up a generator to the sky and get free unlimited energy> Is the world also "specifically designed" for lizards, spiders, fish, mammals to "thrive"?yup that's why there are billions of each of these things, because everything they need to exist is automatically provided for them without any work required. ultimately its humans that have domain over this place however
>>534887635>Personally I don't think a god can exist by definition. I consider one of the fundamental properties of "god" to be non-existence. Anything that could be proven to exist would not qualify as a god.How the fuck did you come to such conclusion? There is only one definition for God, the one who created this universe, is God, there is no need to be omnipotent or ominiscient, or good or bad. There is only one criteria to be God.
>>534885108you're a tranny faggot, Michael
>>534887538>Believe it or not, humans don't have the answer to everything, and that's ok.if we walk past a fully built freshly painted barn and i said "wow, whoever built this barn was a talented craftsman", do you think its an intelligent take to say "you dont know that it was built by someone. it could just exist due to chaos and chance with no intelligent mind. maybe the storm went through a lumber yard and built this barn". that's about the position that atheists find themselves in, there is so much proof of an intelligent designer who made this place for us to thrive that to deny it basically is just saying "yea, im retarded""The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you" -werner heisenberg
>>534887769>>I do not assume anything about God>Thays literally what you did>>I am someone who knows God>Not really.I do not assume anything, but you are free to believe otherwise
>>534887769you're still here?Keep wasting time retard, you're perishing in Hellfire and thank Goodness for that. Suicidal fags like you are absolutely insufferable to be around in this life. You disgusting Baal worshippers only ever attempt to drag humanity down into destruction but your time is finally coming to and end.You are the exact same as Netanyahu, Epstein, & Trump.
>>534887692I'm discussing religion on /pol/. I was a victim of christian brainwashing but eventually woke up. So it just feels vindicating to BTFO christcucks on the net. And I like discussion to make sure my thoughts are correct.The sooner religion dies for good, the sooner humanity goes to the stars. The internet atheist machine needs to re-arm for the new generation IMOThe Jews want (You) to be Christian, followinf (((their))) Ten Commandments. Jews may hate Christians, but they hate pagans, who don't follow "Noahide law," 1000x more.
Fedora tipping is just a midwit ideology retards of no importance adopt in order to feel smarter than others.
>>534887935>I do not assume anythingYou did>>534887946>boohoo hurt feelings Lmao
>>534884490>what is a negative?
>>534887930They don't care about the Truth, they deny it because they're mentally ill & irrational. They know God is real, they just hate God.
>>534880858>studies showanon... have you ever noticed how psychiatrists are always kind of... off? Like it's actually them who need help? Ever noticed how they prescribe a bunch of pills to fix people's problems (except for schizophrenia) but then somehow the problems don't go away and somehow everybody who's on SSRIs is always way off the deep end?have you ever been around scientists for longer than a couple hours, say, for years, and noticed how they don't actually follow the scientific method? Ever noticed how out one side of their mouth there's talk about evidence and reason and evolution and so in and then out the other side of their mouth they say that men can be women and women can be men just because they say so?have you ever noticed how atheist materialist philosophers always avoid answering any questions about what morality is or why people should be "good" or where the universe came from nor have any answers for what consciousness actually is or why it exists etc?but boy do they all like to talk about things that they don't actually have any answers or solutions for... stupid is as stupid does, anon. look very carefully at the results that these people get. and compare it to how truly devout Christians live and how they're blessed.
>>534887981Wait til you hear about Christianity in 2026
But now science has opened the door to the unknown.
>>534888028>They don't care about the TruthSure I do. I dont consider your personal feelings and opinions to he truth though
>>534887946kek keep crying and invoking literal jewish deities Fucking christcucks...
Everyone who isn't an abrahamic abuse golem can figure it outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET07vTF_y94
>>534887930God is imaginaryso is nine million dollarseither one can still kill you quite dead
>>534887635The way I see it that there is no reason why god(s) could not exists, expecially if we allow attributes that make them extraspatial and extracausal beings residing outside of the confines of time. I just personally have not seen ANY evidence of such being existing or interacting with the "mundane" world we all exist in.How the fuck am I supposed to know if there is some omnipotent being hiding outside of universe? :D expecially because such being can stay hidden if it chooses to.
>>534887769>Agnostic atheist doesn't claim to know that God or gods don't exist. Rather they lack belief until convinced otherwise>Agnostic theist is the same except they still believe in God even they don't don't claim to know for surethis is boiled down to the same shit, its just "I dont know". belief is just a replacement for not knowing. its super obvious we have an intelligent designer who made all these laws in order for earth to be self-sufficient and a place where humans can thrive. people just think "i dont know because i havent died and experienced the afterlife" is intellectually honest, someone who outright says "god cant/doesnt exist" is basically retarded, ESPECIALLY when they lean on modern science for their basisyour beliefs should be based on something. what reason is there to believe that this place was made without an intelligent designer? what is the basis for the belief system that there is no creator? its also a copout when people refuse to answer the more complicated questions like "how could life come from non-life?". there is zero basis for this happening in our reality with our human understanding of things, all questions kind of point to there being something bigger and more capable than us able to manipulate in reality that us humans cannot comprehend
>>534888010Belief is defined as a mental attitude of acceptance or assent toward a proposition without the full intellectual knowledge required to guarantee its truth.If you believe there is no God, or you believe there is a God, if you have no absolute proof about it, both case are belief.
>>534888008>>534888082quit begging for my attention, faggot. Ywnbaw so join the troon crowd.>>534888127Kvetch more you tranny rabbi. You all will perish, and thank God for that.
>>534887967yeah whatever. just know where to draw the line at BTFOing your own American kin. also it's not religion bounding you to the earth.
>>534884837>>534885295this and thiswell said, anons
>>534887210It's not a belief "system" at all, it's the lack of one. But for the sake of argument, let's pretend it is - I'll phrase it this way to make it more of a belief:"I believe that god does not exist."Now tell me how this is a religion. I'm genuinely curious...
>>534887824> How the fuck did you come to such conclusionIts not something I decided upon, rather its something I became aware of. My language center associates the property "non-existence" with the word god. It developed this way naturally, I had not conscious control over that. I reverse engineered the definition from self-observation.
>>534888181Why don't you work on forming coherent sentences before diving into epistemology, eh Mikey boy?Do you have a positive belief that there's no such thing as an invisible flying spaghetti monster? Care to present your proof for the class?
>>534887309Nope. Look at this chart and learn something >>534887351
>>534888181I lack the belief in the existence of supernatural beings until proven such beings exist. I am an atheist.Also arguing semantics is not a good look.
>>534886137>points at wolves in sheep's clothing and claims that sheep are evil this is the vaunted atheist intellect? Unable to see through such an obvious disguise? Really?
>>534888264Don't forget you're posting from one of our southern states right now. Banter aside,>it's not religion bounding you to the earth.Well no, we call that force gravity. What did (You) mean by this?
>>534888290because its a belief system made by man.. that makes it a religion. saying you do not think there's a god but are not sure just makes you agnosticthere is no such thing as a "lack of a belief system", you could say "i dont know" which makes you agnostic, you could say "there is a creator" which makes you intelligent, or you could say "there is no intelligent designer behind this reality" which makes you retarded. because then all of a sudden ALL of the laws of the universe simply exist "just because", when required to answer how life came from non life the answer is "idk lol", etc. the mainstream scientific answers to help support and promote atheism are all provably pseudoscience (age of the universe, big bang, evolution).
>>534888178>what reason is there to believe that this place was made without an intelligent designer?What reason is there to think it is? And your response is going to be some illogical presupposition based on personal feelings and bias.
>>534880858So let it be known for all of /pol/ to understand.That all atheists are simply tranny predditor rabbis who hate the Truth and wish to die.Dunk on every single faggot Atheist, remind them that they only use /pol/ to escape their suicidal ideation.This Atheist mind virus must be completely purged from our ranks./pol/ is and forever will be known as a digital bastion of the Kingdom of Heaven.
>>534888213>quit begging for my attention, faggotHe says while giving me 2 yous lol
>>534888213Keep crying and calling me bad names referencing Hebrew fairy tales. It's funny
>>534882575didnt newton spend the last like 40 years of his life as a schizophrenic kabbalist, having lost the respect of his peers?
>>534888213>YwnbawCorrect :^)
>>534881053Based and genuinely redpilled. Blind followers, religious or atheist, are too afraid to actually look and see.
>>534888386i dont care how many genders of atheism you want to invent, its very obvious that to any logical mind there is "i believe in a creator", "i do not believe in a creator", and "i do not know". no need for anything beyond that, you could make a chart with 64 subcategories but it is irrelevant to methe issue is that people think atheism is not a belief system. it is inherently a religion, it objectively is just the dogma of man. atheism is a completely untenable position intellectually, it is the literal retard position to have, because it seeks to answer literally none of the important questions to life. you ask an atheist "how do you think life came from non-life?" and they go "i dunno lol but it wasnt god". if you dont know or have a replacement, how could you possibly make truth claims about what 100% is or is not?
>>534887880>lion>cautious hunter>strike when there is opportinity>run when there is danger>hunt only enough to eat>sleep without worry>deer>clueless grass eater>eat tiny>eat all days>stay in a group to avoid being hunted>can't sleep due to fear of the hunterLike it or not. The pattern behavior of most gamblers, atheists, and stock/crypto traders are resembles the Prey animal more than the Predator
>>534888398>I lack the belief in the existence of supernatural beings until proven such beings exist. I am an atheist.>Also arguing semantics is not a good look.Well, i just don't understand why people refuse to say they believe there is no God.. If you simply don't know the truth about the answer if there is a God or not, then you are not an atheist, you are agnostic
>>534880858>The surname Geggel has its roots in the Germanic and Yiddish-speaking communities, where it is believed to have originated as a diminutive or affectionate form of a name, possibly linked to the word Geggel, which can mean little one or youngster. BROTHER WHEN I SAY EVERY TIME, I MEAN EVERY DAMN TIME
>>534886778>Are you a retard on purpose or is it natural?now you're just resorting to name calling? I stopped reading there and just marked you and your whole worldview as something to be ignored. and so I'm out of this thread
>>534888418Which brand of Christianity is the right one?>inb4 the one you belong tooKek>Unable to see through such an obvious disguise? Really?They're sinners, just like you.
>>534888502well for one we have life here, and have not been able to figure out how to create life.. so the fact that life exists and came into existence from non-life is already quite telling that there is some sort of influence. secondly, this place follows a bunch of LAWS and RULES. how can you have laws without a law-maker? there is so much structure and order, the same apple seed will make the same apple tree wherever you plant it. the food and water are automatic, the urge for life to breed is ingrained into us, etc. if YOU were a Creator trying to automate earth as a little game, the way its currently set up is a super good way to do itthe alternative is "everything we have that exists is just here because of good luck and RNG lol, we got lucky!"
>>534888574The dude has a tag refering himself as a saint. You are wasting your time.Not all can be reasoned with.
>>534888547You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>534880858It's final achievement
>>534883001it's only common sense
>>534888703>I stopped reading there and just marked you and your whole worldview as something to be ignored. that means its working.
>>534888703>now you're just resorting to name calling?Not just, no. It's nice to see you turn a blind eye to your buddies doing it ITT though
>>534880858Remember anons, Preddit is an Atheist paradise/heaven.Remind these disgusting heathens to go back to Preddit, where their kind belongs. Preddit has always been among one of the Atheist platforms.
muh atheism, muh smart, muh iq
Who here has an answer for Nietzsches Madman?
>>534888476Religion is a structured system of beliefs, practices, and symbols designed to connect humans with what they consider sacred, divine, or of ultimate importance. It often involves devotion to supernatural powers or a shared worldview that provides meaning, moral frameworks, and community.I just don't believe in god, bro. There are no tenets, tithings, writings, rules, or orthodoxy to it. There are blue haired tranny leftists who are atheists. There are right wig nazis who are atheists. The ONLY thing that connects them is a disbelief in god. It is not a religion by any stretch of the imagination.
A reminder that the persecution will only make me stronger. You anti-Christ toddlers are destined to die and go to Hell.
>>534888639You are arguing semantics mate. Atheism is not a system of belief. I know this is hard for you man but please try to understand the argument.
>>534888579That kind of thing happens to most people who take Jewish folklore seriously.
>>534880858You could even say that atheists are enlightened by their own intelligence
>>534888754>the alternative is "everything we have that exists is just here because of good luck and RNG lol, we got lucky!"No it isn't But I was right about you. Your position is essentially God of the gaps via>>534888502>your response is going to be some illogical presupposition based on personal feelings and bias.Kek
>>534888418They're spiritually dead, they are incapable of discerning.
>>534887930>le watch in the desert analogyThanks for taking us to Phil 101, unironically an improvement for this thread.Except we have natural explanations for things now. How rock formations came to be, the primordial soup from which life sprang, tectonic plates, etc. We don't need to posit "intelligent" design for complicated structures in life. We can basically just point at entropy and that fills in the gaps. No jewish fairy tales needed!There is quite a leap between "creator is necessary" and "this one desert tribe figured out god and now their descendant is its son and gave us rules that we have to follow"
>>534888908>Religion is a structured system of beliefs, practices, and symbols designed to connect humans with what they consider sacred, divine, or of ultimate importance. It often involves devotion to supernatural powers or a shared worldview that provides meaning, moral frameworks, and community.no shit, sherlock...you must the chosen one
>>534888870Hey, bro, you might like a private discord or r/eddit. That way your feelings won't get hurt
>>534888883Unironically
>>534888930>You are arguing semantics mate. Atheism is not a system of belief. I know this is hard for you man but please try to understand the argument.Then everyone agree with me then? And everyone mad at me saying this is because they don't understand the word belief ?
>>534889078No one's going to miss you when you're gone, thank God for that.
>>534888910you're on your 3rd ID in this thread you pathetic jew worshipping tranny gook faggot
>>534888908>I just don't believe in god, bro.okay but there's an important distinction to be madedo you just find it hard to believe there could be a creator because they have not physically manifested themselves in front of you and proven to you personally that they exist? i mean, if you are in the realm of "im not sure, i havent seen enough evidence for myself", then i think that's intellectually honest and OK (misguided of course though)the problem is that there is a word for this which is agnostic, and then there is a separate word which is atheist which is making the truth claim that god DOES NOT exist. this is intellectually retardedfor example, we have life here on earth. we have not been able to create life from non-life here on earth.. yet we have life here on earth. how do you think that's possible? do you think life just came from non-life for no reason at some point in the past, as a one-time thing? does that makes sense to you? because it doesn't make sense to me. does that mean god HAS to be real because of that? not necessarily, but i think in terms of defending the position of atheism it is something that would need to be addressed. there is SO MUCH EVIDENCE to suggest this world is not just physical, and there is clearly some sort of spirit/energy realm we coexist within
>>534880858God made them that way.
>>534881053Man is ever craving for a “beyond” and cannot live without an ideal of some kind, as a beacon and a consolation. At the same time, no average man, even in our age of universal education, could be entrusted with truths too metaphysical, too subtle for his mind to comprehend, without the danger of an imminent reaction setting in, and faith in Gods and Saints making room for an unscientific blank Atheism. No real philanthropist, hence no Occultist, would dream for a moment of a mankind without one tittle of Religion. Even the modern day Religion in Europe, confined to Sundays, is better than none. But if, as Bunyan put it, “Religion is the best armour that a man can have,” it certainly is the “worst cloak”; and it is that “cloak” and false pretence which the Occultists and the Theosophists fight against. The true ideal Deity, the one living God in Nature, can never suffer in man’s worship if that outward cloak, woven by man’s fancy, and thrown upon the Deity by the crafty hand of the priest greedy of power and domination, is drawn aside. The hour has struck with the commencement of this century to dethrone the “highest God” of every nation in favour of One Universal Deity — the God of Immutable Law, not charity; the God of Just Retribution, not mercy, which is merely an incentive to evil-doing and to a repetition of it. The greatest crime that was ever perpetrated upon mankind was committed on that day when the first priest invented the first prayer with a selfish object in view.
>>534889033Wasn't talking to you, filthy kraut. Pay attention to the conversation.
>>534889144Nobody is mad at you friend.
>>534889167you kvetching cucks keep bouncing IDs way more often.Jesus Christ is the God of Abraham, Jacob, & Moses, the Church is Israel, all of you non-Christian fake "jewish" cucks are perishing in hellfire, thank God.
>>534889167You are a pathetic cunt. You stupid bitch. You think you have anything that can shut me up or make me feel fear? Fat chance.My God is the Almighty Supreme.I always see Judgement after shit like this.
I swear I'm arguing religion on /pol/ daily and I'll bet it's the same 10 people every time. It's always around this time of day.Just wanna say I love each and every one of (You). Especially (You), Michael, our resident unironic schizo. Til tomorrow, gang
>>534889156>No one's going to miss you when you're goneWhy is lying so easy for you lot?People like you do more to harm Christianity than any atheist could.
>>534889310 take your meds psycho
>>534889287Someone said i should shoot myself lol>>534887777
>>534889369you really need to
>>534889186>do you just find it hard to believe there could be a creator because they have not physically manifested themselves in front of you and proven to you personally that they exist? i mean, if you are in the realm of "im not sure, i havent seen enough evidence for myself", then i think that's intellectually honest and OK (misguided of course though)Yes. I'm an agnostic atheist. And I fully believe it's you who is completely misguided. So it seems we're at a bit of an impasse.
An article from a nameless online tabloid is not a scientific studyIf atheists are generally smarter than religious people, how do you explain Jewish IQ scores?
>>534889336It's true, you perish and that's that, nobody will remember you. You will simply be gone forever.Thank God for that, you fucking faggots like >>534889367 ruined this world, so perish. We will not share eternal life with you insufferable faggots.>People like you do more to harm Christianity than any atheist could.God calls us to become Christian, we are literally chosen out of this World.You will never find God as you are.
>100 years of "atheist hedonist homosexual sodomite are actually le super intelligent guise"lol okay enjoy your failed civilization 1pbtid
>>534880858Say an atheists pay by Jew.
>>534888962>the alternative is "everything we have that exists is just here because of good luck and RNG lol, we got lucky!">No it isn't>But I was right about you. Your position is essentially God of the gaps viahey man im starting to think you're quite a bit jewish if the only thing you say is "nah lol" without offering your actual position. the way White people have conversation is that they would go "no, i disagree with your point, because here is my point which makes more sense to me". the way hideous snake jews argue is they hiss at you and call you names and then change flags
>>534889454no one who believes in talking snakes has a high IQ. absolutely impossible
>>534889228You make it sound like:1. god made atheist to not believe in it and burns them in hell for shits and gigglesor 2. god fails to convince atheist of its existence and punishes them for its own failure by torturing them
>>534889409Well, thanks for your kind words. I wish you the best
>>534889410>I'm an agnostic atheist.im an obese bulimicim a nigger as a white manim a retarded geniusthis is an oxymoron, those are 2 seperate belief systems. its like you're saying "im a christian buddhist" or something
>>534889525
>>534889525I actually think the garden of eden has an anthropological explanation
>>534889525My measured IQ of 142 demolishes all of you fucking midwits. Atheism is the religion of midwittism.
>>534889369Well he should not have.
>>534880858nopecuz most of them still belief in somethingand a lot of those are still believing in something metaphysical/supernatural/fully fictionalyou don't get an achievement for slaying that flavor of retardation when most of everyone is still retarded
here we go with the dumbfuck copes
>>534889525Snake can talk. You are the one who lack the ability to comprehend them.
>>534880858Smarter people are generally easier to brainwash and manipulate.This is well-established, so don't just take my word for it. Go look into it.Atheism is not the natural conclusion, nor is it a conclusion born out of logic or intellectual honesty. It is the result of brainwashing and deliberate manipulation.The simple answer to your question, going off what we know about the counterintuitive nature of brainwashing, is that smarter people spend more time in the places where the brainwashing occurs, allowing it to take deeper root and further immersing them in a social structure that enforces the implanted belief system.Now, if a group of people wanted to make you atheist when they themselves are not, what sort of signs would there be? Well one could imagine that they'd be very adamantly against you pursuing any religion at all, including their own. Who do we know who is like that? They say your religion is wrong, but they don't invote you to follow theirs... who does that? Hm.....
>>534882575>>534882921>>534882976>>534883455>be catholic>get challenged>appeal to authority fucking always kek
>caw-caw
>>534889525actually all the people who own your mind, own your school, own the internet, own your childhood education, own your favorite hollywood movie studios, own your favorite book publishers etc all worship satan and genuinely believe they descended from star-people. you COULD argue they are all retarded but in reality they clearly know more than you considering how much of our history has been erased and modified while they preserve the truth among themselves. this is also why the jewish elite like the rothschilds etc all inbreed, because they GENUINELY believe they have serpentsblood running through their veins that they wish to preserve. YOU might think its retarded but ALL THE WORLD LEADERS worship demons and satan etc for a reason (because hes real)
>>534889651Not my problem you have an IQ of 93 and think you're the smartest person alive, you fucking midwit, everyone hates you.
>>534889686
>>534889708>They say your religion is wrong, but they don't invote you to follow theirs... who does that? Hm.....chickens?
>>534881489Religious people minds are rotted by the fact that they need to believe in things like faith in order for it to make sense. Any rational approach to this world would conclude that God is simply the collective unconscious of humanity and all miracles telepathy tongues ect are a byproduct of that fact.
>>534889467>nobody will remember you.My kids will, my family will. Why do you make yourself look silly with this? It's very clear how angry and rageful you are. It's like the entirety of what Jesus talked about in Matthew eludes you. But that's assuming you've actually read the bible contextually and we all know that's probably not true >>534889467>God calls us to become ChristianChrist calls you to produce good fruits. All you produce is a dead vine.
>>534889525Sounds antisemitic but okay
>>534880916no the fuck there doesn't.all religions are trash. embrace science, it's already masculine coded. ideology and FEELINGS is the madness of the femininehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hePRA9yVdQE
>>534889763Imagine this gobbledygook playing in your headYou have to pity these people. They're not well. Rabbi Yeshua's fables and mindgames REALLY fucked them up
>>534889487>without offering your actual position.On what exactly? I can make up nonsense like you too but why?
>>534889852You are funny
>>534889767>you midwit!>everybody hates you!Classic response from "A Fellow Saint"
>>534889893you are a faggot, son.
>>534889708>being stupid makes you harder to manipulatewe got a livewire dunning kruger here, folks
>>534889728The Catholic Church knows how to not be an idiot and blow all their hard work, kill their entire country in 70 years like a certain uppity mutilated country.>Proverbs 13:11>Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
>>534889956yeah, christkikes are full of shit
>>534889763https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2g76SPcQ78
>>534881053>Both camps are terrified of us bringing scientific occultism back.I was into such stuff at a time. It's all largely worthless, but some things can never leave you. Universal Order or Daoism is something I will never be able to unsee. Same as physiognomy. In the end though, Christ is the only true God there is. It's not in some roundabout gay way you, it is Jesus Christ.>>534881338>We are smarter in general - this has been confirmed by a few studies, actually.I can tell you're still a midwit because you believe in studies. People have agendas when they start these studies, and will rig them to whatever they want the large masses to believe. I could do this exact same study and make it seem like all the Christians had 130+ IQ and all the atheists less than 100.
>>534884766that's what the bacon is for dipshittasty and it's some unholy thing in their sand doctrineaye i'll say it to their face, jews too though that one actually got me in trouble lolfuck all spiritualists, they are deranged and shouldn't be trusted with anything more complicated than a bowl of cereal
>>534889965ironic considering how many women i've fuckedwhat have you got? some monogamy bullshit that isn't working out?
>>534889487White people don't appeal to literal Jewish fairy tales to explain things they don't understand
>>534889910what is the atheist explanation for the origin of how we have life from non-life? and why does this physical universe exist at all?the agnostic could say "i dont know", the atheist has already ruled out god which means they need to come up with materialist explanations for these things. what kind of intellectual position just says "idk" to everything lol
>>534885295>God humbles the proud and exalts the humble. Pride is the root of all Sin and Humility is the root of all Virtue.>>534889956Notice the statement he gave above? Then notice how he is completely empty on being humble and full on pride
>>534890069>what is the atheist explanation for the origin of how we have life from non-life? and why does this physical universe exist at all?I've already answered this.
>>534880858I admit that Christianity did a lot for civilization, easy to see when you compare India and Africa with Europa but now they became an woke LGBTQ advertisement joke (lol), they literally bowed everything they preached to fashion and Zeitgeist. That's a big disappointment. The Bible still holds great thoughts though but the church messed up every spirituallity, for me. No big deal as I was no Christian anyways.
>>534890156Sound like you are not destined for Heaven.
>>534890080Hey man, you don't have to justify insulting someone's intelligence and telling them they're not loved to me. Save that for your "God," Mr. Fellow Saint
>>534887353Those that fear death will cave, yes.Those that are already at peace with death are indifferent to when the time comes and don't need belief in an entity that doesn't exist.I categorize myself in the latter, seeing as we cannot escape fate nor is it worth wasting a lifetime, trying to lie to yourself to feel better about your inevitable demise.In short.. Grow up!
>>534890156Christianity is indeed garbage. And from it's foundation. If there was trully a religion based on the absolute truth, it would take over the world, destroy evil, and create an utopia in a matter of decades. We only have man made religions, but Jesus is indeed God in human form
>>534890054the White aryan people who made this world amazing are directly descendants from those that were surrounded by Christ. there is overwhelming evidence all throughout the world that there have generally been a group of white fair-skinned nobility among all the browns in the world and they were treated royally. this is why there are caste systems in places like india and asia where white skin is seen as desirable, and shitskins curse their lineage. same within the black community, they want to be "lightskin" and avoid being too negro etc. this all ties back to how the followers of Christ were told to travel the world and spread His truthyou can spout nonsense like "jewish fairy tales" as much as you want, but Christ was the #1 anti-jew to begin with, in fact he openly argued and fought with them nonstop, warned us of their nature, and violently opposed their creation. he literally died because of anti-semitic speech laws that jews invented specifically to accuse himat the end of the day, its 2026. 2026 years after what? even atheist scholars cannot deny that someone named Yehoshua (Jesus Christ) existed, this is backed up by tons of historians that weren't even christian. so the discussion is really "do his teachings matter?", clearly you do not think so
>>534889835I have no fellowship with darkness, there is no longer any excuse to not be serving Christ. I do not give any fruits of the Spirit to pigs & dogs that can only trample on these pearls.>>534889956>>534890023All of you disgusting dogs will perish in Hell, you sons of Satan. You have seen God's Work all throughout the world and you still dare to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit.If you think I hate you, understand that God has far greater hatred. I know not what evils you have committed in your lifetime, but God has seen all of your evil acts. You are the vessels of Wrath that He will personally destroy so that we shall bear witness to His power.
>>534890218Hey Michael you should study up on some verb and noun singular/plural rules. Not for nothing but you've made multiple mistakes ITT. Good luck on your ESL classes!
>>534886273>it is impossible to not serve a masterfor you and your believer ilk sure maybefor a human though? saying no is simple as breathing
>>534890218... because he thinks for himself?
>>534890349‘None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free’You fucking pagan retards, you can keep lying to yourselves all you want, but I don't give a flying fuck about your retarded delusions.I simply look forward to the day when this world will no longer be plagued with your evil.
>>534890339>I have no fellowshipCorrect >>534890339>All of you disgusting dogs will perish in HellThat's not for you to decide and for you to assume the position of God and dull out who does and doesn't go to hell, just demonstrates how anti christ you really are.
>>534889571God you're dumb. Read the fucking chart. >>534887351
>>534890250The more you are approaching death, the more you will see shit outside of this Reality.>>534890371Because all is predestined, and those who belong to God will have a desire to be with God.Just like how couple get together.
>>534890329There is no religion higher than Truth.
>>534886336look it's a simple well known label that is close enoughi don't want to have to give philosophy 101 lectures everytime someone asks my opinion on this shitok fine pedant i'm not strictly speaking an atheist but saying i am gets across the main points that i don't have belief and think spiritualism is ancient mental sickness better than the clunky amalgam of philosophical terms that would more accurately describe my positionsyou are being a shit, turn down the autism
>>534890502As a sentence proceeds, it continually narrows the freedom of the application of the succeeding terms, and tends to fix their destiny of meaning, so to speak.A sentence does this by means of the syntax or operational rules of the language in which it is spoken. Yet this precipitation of semantic consequence, this crystallization of the fate of meaning, is actually a reflection of the original choice of intent on the part of the speaker, who is the framer of the sentences. If there were no rules of operation and syntax, no orderly procession of results, no freedom would be possible. Freedom in fact means not only choice of cause but guarantee of effect once a cause is chosen. Fate and free will are two sides of the same coin. The first is the crystallization of the second. Imagine for a moment a world in which one never could know what would occur when one re-enacted the same cause. This would not be a world of freedom but of chaos, which constitutes one of the worst tyrannies.Almost as important as the existence in the universe of laws or patterns of consequence is the fact that one may change consequence-pattern if one changes the intent that generates the causal pattern to which the consequence is but nature’s appropriate response. We cannot always predict what the appropriate consequences for actions will be. Indeed, that ability is called “wisdom.” But we can study the configurations of relational pattern between act and consequence and thus learn better how to determine what this appropriateness in any given case means.It is thus there is no immutable destiny. Even if a given trend or habit has continued to the point of no return, so that its appropriate consequence must eventuate, yet one's reaction to that consequence is still subject to renewed choice, and with it the remolding of one consequence pattern by another.--Charles Musès, Astrologia, Vol. 1, No. 1
>>534890335AYO HOLUP>worships a literal jewIS U TELLIN ME>follows jewish teachings based on jewish lawWE WUZ>rapes altar boyDA REEEEAL JOOS N SHIIIET???>goes online to convince strangers to believe jewish fables on penalty of death>cuts a check to israelMUHFUGGIN SHIIIIIEEEEEEEET>>534890339Kek, sure bud. qq moar n00b u lose
>>534890503Indeed, God himself is the number one follower of the truth
>>534890474Look at this disgusting son of the Devil, lying through his teeth.He seethes against Yahweh as a dog of the devil, and then attempts to speak for Him.This demonic dog dares to attempt to usurp God's authority in front of me.We will rejoice at your demonic death, son of Satan.
>>534890490i dont care about your faggy chart, its about as valid and intelligent to me as pic relatedthere are clearly 3 positions:"i believe in god""i do not know""i do not believe in god"anything else is just jewish black magic trying to be confusing which results in nonsense like "im an agnostic atheist", "im a non-believing christian who is pro-satan but god-agnostic" like its just words at that point, you are just removing the purpose from the words and pointing to emojis saying "This explains me, not words"
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>>534890612Re loves Ma'at.
>>534890589>thinking Christ was "jewish"the letter J doesn't even exist in hebrew, jews are the supervillain on earth and Christ is obviously going to be born immersed in their society so he can reveal and spotlight the evils within it "JESUS" HATED "JEWS"!
>>534890585The God I have seen can predict the future with 100% precision.That being is certainly more powerful than all humans who can’t even predict the next crypto bull run.
>>534890655egypt worship = nimrod worship
>>534890620>lying through his teeth.What's the lie exactly?>and then attempts to speak for Him.You're projecting lolI actually convinced you're a leftist here to LARP, take screen shots and take then back to report on r/eddit
>>534890685>>thinking Christ was "jewish">21 And when eight days were completed [a]for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.
>>534890502>The more you are approaching death, the more you will see shit outside of this Reality.I fucking hope so. This sterile and boring world is causing suicides at an increasing rate.If I can even stand society that long, I welcome to see some new and different shit. That would be exciting for once.
>>534890705There is no immutable destiny.
>>534890717Pretty much, nothing new under the Sun. These disgusting prophets of Baal will soon face judgment, thank God.>>534890742"rabbi" shlomo, I thank God "you" will not be in Heaven.
>>534890800The dream world itself comes from another realm. As brain frequency approaching Zero, the more you will see Dream.And at Zero. Your consciousness is entirely absent from this physical world.
>>534890624>i dont care about your faggy chartOf course not. Religious people shrink from anything that challenges their beliefs.Gnosticism is a question of knowlede.Theism is a question of belief.I'm not claiming to KNOW that god does not exist, but I don't BELIEVE god exists. That makes me an agnostic atheist.Learn a little bit and work on your apologetics before entering these adult conversations from now on, please and thanks.
>>534890800>I fucking hope so. This sterile and boring world is causing suicides at an increasing rate.This world is fun, you simply see it with the wrong eyes>>534890839The futur already exist currently, when God say something will be like that, it's not a prediction, it's him telling what he saw
>>534889995it's literally you. Like i said, this is not an opinion. Influence and persuasion have been very thoroughly studied and there is extensive literature about what I said. You are the idiot who missed that and just thought "nuh uh because I AM VERY SMART" lmao
>>534890885>rabbiThey called Jesus that too lol
>>534890839Only because you are too dumb to see it. The Market can be predicted because all is predestined.
>>534890994Omniscience is self-restrained, in that beings really do have Free Will, and therefore there is no immutable destiny.
>>534891061>Omniscience is self-restrained, in that beings really do have Free Will, and therefore there is no immutable destiny.I don't deny freewill, i simply say the futur is already set in stone
>>534890796what does that have to do with anything lol yea he was born in that part of the world and that's what evil jews do to all the babies
>>534891058The difference is that I'm mocking you by calling you that, whereas God is God. You are just a demon-possessed being.
>>534890885>"you" will not be in Heaven.>>534890620>and then attempts to speak for Him.Kek, see what I mean? These dorks constantly project hahaha
>>534891060You have forsaken the gift of Free Will. I have no respect for determinists.
>>534891145That's why you atheists are what we call "fools" in the Bible, I even emphasized a word to help you understand, and you still missed the meaning.
Your mind appears to be set in stone, Michael...
>>534890624>there are clearly 3 positions:>"i believe in god">"i do not know">"i do not believe in god"And there is sub context to each one of those. With your low IQ it seems like black magic and strawman
>>534891171Free will is useless. Optimization all the way.
>>534891143>The difference is that I'm mocking you by calling you thatBut they weren't mocking Christ when they called him that because he was a serious jew>>534891259>in the Bible
>>534891171You do understand that your will is bound to your master, correct? Only Christians are bound to the Holy Spirit, your wills are bound to fallen elohim leading you to your death, good luck.>>534891283>there's subcontext!!!Look at that, you've exposed yourself faggot. Thank God "you" will not be in Heaven since you're just a disgusting liar.
>>534890069an honest one xDone that doesn't mistake narrative coherence or logical following for truth
>>534891061https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIndsmj_Y6M
Someone (not me) create a new thread and post it here, thanks you
>>534891416saying "idk" to everything is not "intellectual" at all
>>534891383You don't even realize how many layers you've screwed yourself on, you're just another disingenuous faggot who wants to kill himself in the end.
>>534891385... I'm literally Lucifer. Do you know how to read an astrological chart? https://youtu.be/bbEoRnaOIbs
The result only has up and down. Yet. There is a logic behind it all.
https://youtu.be/CxnaPa8ohmM
>>534891385>you're just a disgusting liar.You keep saying this but can't seem to back it up.But thanks for continuing to prove me right. YWNBAC
Following free will or “emotion” in the Market is how you get killed by the end. Gamblers have short live.
>>534891460Ehh, I'm all done with shitposting against pagan faggots for the time being.>>534891537Who cares if you are or aren't lucifer? Jesus Christ already won and the Kingdom of Heaven continues expanding. The end for all paganism (and yes, atheism is the cannon fodder religion of paganism) is Hellfire.
>>534890977Gotta learn to yeet from this prison before then, I can hear. Not in the mood to an hero (yet) but there gotta be a way to connect sooner and leave this mortal realm of shit and piss.>>534890994>This world is fun, you simply see it with the wrong eyesNo, all I see is the rich getting richer and the rest getting narrowed into a dept corner more and more where they eventually own YOU.No one tries to stop them and they cause suffering across the world just to make an extra dollar.Greed is not a strong enough word to describe these vultures.If you have nothing, you can't enjoy anything nor form a life worth something to yourself. Instead you're in purgatory, waiting for something, anything to shatter the illusion of society and bring back the joy of life..
>>534891483>more boo hoo
>>534890620>dog as insultbrown detectedopinions discarded
>>534891738... I literally am Jesus. Hi!
>>534891748>all I seeLike i said, it's because you look at it with in a bad way. This world is very fun when you look at it like a video game. Instead of trying to see it as someone who want to have a peaceful and easy life, you should see it as a challenge, as a glorious challenge, without evil, you can't be a hero
>>534891720Thank God you won't be in Heaven, you're a disgusting creature.>>534891766you're the only one crying about the fact that you'll be forgotten.>>534891769You're a mohammedan in the UK, pipe down.>>534891812lay off the hard drugs, canadian friend.
>>534891748The brain is a receiver, not a consciousness generator.
>>534891472when the alternative is tedx grade soft science i'll leave the space blank thxi will never accept 'it follows' as equal to a functioning machine design
