>>534888733If you don't talk about corporate welfare first you're a Jew.
>>534888733Nice nice.Denaturalize and deport vivek and 100% of all indians
Wow rich people wishing to dismantle programs that protect the most vulnerable wow what a got take lolBring back workhorse durrr
>>534888884That would cover 99% of /pol/.
>>534888733Wow scamagranny wants to turn the USA into the libertarian paradise of India
>>534888733
>>534888733Well Vivek will never need welfare after making millions scamming dementia patients and investors
Indians are so wise. Look at their homeland
>>534888733>2 immigrants telling Americans they should have lessThey got theirs, now they want yours too.
>>534889143He’s still making $$$ selling stock of an ongoing scam he just launched last year
What could go wrong. Look at their home Vivek’s ancestors built
>>534888733Ya know what seems to be a powerful factor when it comes to inflation? Economic warfare. Tariffs are for raising capital for the government from the people as James Madison intended. And musk the trillionaire is laughing at all of your ignorance daily.
>>534888733>pay into a system>asking for my money back makes me entitled
Is this a libertarian paradise?
>>534888733>make corporations pay their fair share? that's communism>infinity jeets to depress wages>no welfare for you lazy fags, learn to compete!I love how these two cocksuckers keep flipflopping on this topic.I don't even care if it's real anymore, I just hope they die.
>>534888733The Nigger and the Jeet must fight to survive in a barbed wire cage. Loser dies. Winner fights against exactly 1 starving Timberwolf of my choosing.
ok, define entitlements
>>534888733What will happen when those people cannot pay their credit cards nor rents and they end up flooding the job market?
Browns and niggers are not compatible with a white, high trust society. They have destroyed the entire west by simply existing within it. All systems that worked great in a white utopia are now completely ruined by disgusting sub humans.
>>534888733>elon musk says social safety net bad>musk took at least 38 Billion dollars in subsidiesGUH GUH GUH GUILLOTINE
>>534888733If they're printing vast amounts of money to fund entitlements, then it is inflationary, but 1) causes of inflation are vastly more complex and varied, including foreign competition driving up the price of key resources 2) removing social safety nets would cause a LOT more problems than the inflation that can be attributed to funding entitlements.The jeet and the jeet loving south african are in way over their heads if they think it's that simple. Anyways, touching social security would just create lots of boomer snipers with nothing to lose.
>>534888733Highest of keksDoes either of these two immigrant faggots know that allowing them to come in and do jobs in the US or really any western nation is basically a welfare program for both the corporations and immigrants? Are they really this oblivious to globalization?Holy shit
no more UBI then?
>>534889495No a system that supports new parents means I have a child every year in perpetuity with my wives
>>534889443Having the government subsidize your multibillion dollar company with EV tax subsidies for over a decade.
>>534889495Please do not forget to include chinks/gooks in your statement.That entire half of the planet is not compatible with western civilization.
>>534889379it's all cows. trash. and motorcycles
>>534888733can this retard make up his mind
>>534888733> corporations tell investors they’re jacking prices above inflation since its in the news and people expect it> stock market at historic levels> every company using big data to extract as much wealth as possible> dynamic pricing being phased in> …it’s the governments fault prices are upHow conservatives simultaneously believe that businesses have pricing authority and that they should maximize profit but that any aggregate upwards movement of those prices is the governments fault is beyond me.
>Denmark's annual inflation rate rose to 1.4% in April 2026>As of March 2026, the U.S. annual inflation rate was 3.26%Pretty sure Denmark is much more of a welfare state than USAYet lower inflationReally makes you think
>>534888733oh that's a post from 2024 and this >>534889780 is from 2025I think it's safe to say that he's become even more retarded
>>534889771based hooligan doggo
>>53488873346 years of reaganomics and the only thing trickling down is yellow and full of sulphur
>>534889857Our welfare is for infinity invaders, and their scam businesses
Indians scam
>>534888733This is of course, complete and total nonsense.Vikek is a proven scammer. He is a capitalist fraudster.Real academics, like Dr. Richard Werner, have already proven that the quantity of spending has little relation to how much inflation it generates. Rather it is driven almost entirely by where and how that money channels.Government spending is the ORIGIN point of money. Currency is a tax credit. The government than taxes a portion of it back. That which remains within the economy is the deficit or debt -- which matches to the penny private sector surpluses. In other words, the government debt is YOUR money.What scammers and parasites like Musk and Ramaswamy, who are not American and never will be, are trying to do is convince you to allow them to monopolize further and future access to the government creation of money.You would have to be extremely dumb to fall for this.
>>534888733>allow public assistance fraud>saw we cant have public assistance because of fraudOldest trick in the book.
>>534888733One day he talks about UBI the next day he wants to abolish the social safety net because a brown jeet politician which he supports said it.
>>534888733Isn't this the same guy who says that in the not-too-distant future we'll need a universal basic income because AI and robots will take over most of the jobs? How on earth can he hold both of these positions at the same time? Furthermore, what he says is absolutely false. If social spending isn't financed by printing money, then the impact on prices is minimal. What REALLY generates inflation is fiat currency. The fiat system not only generates inflation, but it also favors the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few, like Musk's. This is because, with a slow but constant rate of inflation, the lower and middle classes slowly lose purchasing power, while the upper classes, being able to invest their capital in assets that don't lose value, like real estate or businesses, tend to accumulate wealth. In short, Musk is a giant parasite in many ways. He not only benefits from exclusive government contracts, but the financial system is also designed to benefit people like him. If we really want to destroy inflation, we should return to a system like the gold standard.
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>few thousands for the common man>CANT AFFORD IT! INFLATION!!>billions in corpo bailouts and being sent to israel>uh yeah don't worry about that ehehe
>>534890154>Yes, non-citizens can receive certain welfare benefits in the US, but it is highly restricted based on immigration status. While undocumented immigrants are generally ineligible for federal programs, "qualified" non-citizens (such as green card holders, refugees, and asylees) may access benefits, often after a five-year waiting periodMeanwhile Swedens welfare state is open to even illegalsAlso Sweden has even lower inflation than Denmark>As of April 2026, Sweden's annual inflation rate (CPI) fell slightly into deflation at -0.1%Clearly you need to find something else to cope about when it comes to inflation
>>534888733Because you cause lots of starvation if you cut even slight bits off the entitlements people are used to. The problem in 2026 is nearly all developed societies are not breeding. No children equals dead empires in a few decades. The Africans are also reducing breeding and as they develop nobody is going to want to leave. So what do. Kick the can down the road until the Great Boomer Die Off of the 2040's. It's a trainwreck in slow motion. Honest historians will note that as new technologies made labor obsolete and birth control made the single life possible, societies began to get much smaller. How well the transitions are handled is what remains to be seen.
>>534890293No, what generates inflation is when new spending becomes overly concentrated on already existing assets and access to them, rather than on creating a steady supply of new assets or on production improvements to lower the input costs on existing production.
>>534890147that's because we just increased military spending by 1.5x the trillion dollars it was and the government is investing billions in nvidia
>>534888733IF RAMALAMADINGDONG LOSES ITS BECAUSE OF HIS XMAS XEETING
>>534890418To be fair, Denmark has very significant taxation. It's rather high on income. They have a very broad and high VAT tax that has little or no exceptions or lowered rates unlike quite a few other EU states. Denmark, and Sweden, though, did keep their internal currencies. They did not surrender that to the ECB.
>>534890609>RAMALAMADINGDONGWe jammin?
>>534888884Oof kikebros these austrians are onto us again..............
>>534888733Musk sucking jeet cock again? What a surprise
>>534888733Talking about this is Israel Coded.
>>534889029The alternative to giving you a job such as teaching if you are a woman or hard labor if you are a man is to have automation handle it. Which means you aren't needed to complete any task ever again. The option cheaper than paying you to sit around and make art or whatever is to cut you off entirely and have their robot soldiers handle you when you get cranky.
>entitlement This is always the favorite word of conartists and thieves
>>534890649>They did not surrender that to the ECB.I actually think the Swedish Crown is tied to the Euro-system even though we dont have the EuroEither way if the current center-right government is re-elected this september the Sweden Democrats and smaller Liberal party have promised that the election 2030 will also be another referendum about Sweden adopting the Euro (even though the Sweden Democrats are against that) But since you mention VAT, the current government did cut that in half for food and its probably why Sweden have such low-inflation at least that is the opinion of our central bank
>>534890725Remind me why so many non billionaires suck the dicks of these psychopaths again? Are they all just retarded?
>>534888733That's retarded the only that causes inflation is the total amount of money. When we get rid of social nets we don't see deflation.
>>534888884/Thread>white granny that paid into SS for 50 years needs to be cut off >so that we can give OpenAi more subsidies to displace American workers
>>534888733>basic necessities collectively supported?> live off government money, inheritance, and vaporwareIt’s about giving money to immigrants who take too much like parasites and not to citizensThis is how police began in Boston. Shipyard owners wanted security without paying, so they replaced private security guards with government funded police they founded
>>534888733checkfirst of all, around 97% of the inflation in the economy is due to private banks making loans. the money is created when the loan is created, and the loan agreement is really a debt instrument which is bought and sold on a market like stocks and etfs. government spending is a drop in the ocean by comparison.this video is a must watch in order to understand how economies really function.https://youtu.be/fglStqKJH_Ealso, money in the hands of the rich has less "velocity", another contributor to inflation. the velocity is a count of how many times that same dollar is used. the rich tend to take out loans to buy things which already exist rather than create something new, which creates an imbalance in the money supply vs the total of the goods and services in existence. they tend to buy stocks, and the vast preponderance of their wealth is not spent into the economy, but rather the stock market which is not the same. "buy and hold forever" does not increase velocityon the other hand, money in the hands of the poor tends to have a stimulatory effect on the economy, as they tend to spend over 100% of their income (credit cards etc) on the thigns they need. ergo, higher velocity. that dollar buys some apples from the store, the store pays their workers, their workers buy something else, etc. more cash in the hands of the lower classes equals prosperity.
>>534889352It's far creepier. You are entitled because you paid into to it and per contract were indeed supposed to get some back after the set period of time. The problem is many faced. Not only do you not get the authority to issue currency, the government can revoke your entitlements whenever they want. All developed societies are not reproducing and have not been for decades. Developing ones are falling in reproduction as well. This is the end of the empire for the elite in about 20 years or so. You are going to see them take thing you never dreamed they would take. Like freedom of movement and every cent they ever promised. They will try to do it slowly up to the Boomer invalid phase of life. That happens in the 2040's. It's a game of managing chaos.
>>534890951If we ended outsourcing we wouldnt have as bad of an unemployment rate. It seems they want their cake and to eat US to.
>>534888733I thought Scumaswamy's profile pic was an Amanita muscaria before I enlarged the image. Would make sense. Scumaswamy makes you hallucinate and throw up.
>>534889641he knows what he is doingthis is for short term cash flow, if he didn't push trump his stockholders would sue him for not trying hard enough to make money aka due diligence lawsuitthey want it all for themselves and are lying to you and everyone else about their motives.
>>534888733Fuckin based! I love when a South African billionaire tells me how he's gonna fuck my ass and ruin my country. I love Jew cum MIGA!
>>534888733Okay. Dismantle the welfare state and implement a negative income tax.
>>534891345this one isn't a real post
>>534889029>protect the most vulnerableYes the welfare admins are capable of determining what it is you want and need more than you ever will. Chud.
>>534891139Decent take. In 1933 our government seized all the gold of private citizens except that in the form of collectors coins because "they're hoarding the wealth". This disproportionately effected the middle and lower classes as the obvious mechanics of this scheme were made known precipitously to the wealthy who were able to exchange gold into other means of wealth storage. Then what happened? The Federal Reserve banks hoarded the gold and the depression was extended.
>my fugazzi stocks subsidized completely by the government through both direct injections of massive amounts and peotectionism that would make a North Korean blush that have never actually turned a profit go up by a hundred billion every year>I create hundreds of billions of dollars out of thin air by taking out loans against my fugazzi companies>if I actually just spend a couple billion of the borrowed money on my fugazzi company, the liquidity is low enough that it distorts the market and I can borrow ridiculous amounts more>i use all of this fugazzi to further fake growth in my companies in other ways>I utilize my government connections for huge subsidies and unfair protectionism to increase the optimism in my fugazzi companies>the inflation problem is that niggers get $100 a month to buy chips and kool aidI appreciate his hatred for niggers and desire for a technocratic authoritarian eugenic society but cmon man please be a little more subtle about it you are giving away the game
>>534888733Kek, do it. Let’s unleash a horde of homeless foids divorced by the state and unwanted by men.
>>534888733It certainly attracted Elon to this country.
>>534888733you have probably over a billion government kikes that cost you a billion each, and in some cases gorillions.how much life long pensions does the kike jeet receive after holding office for 1 year? how much was spent on his and his likes useless political offices? answer: all of it
>>534888733Funny when 2 parasites complain about parasites
>>534888733i'm voting blue all the way through. you faggots memed the orange dipshit into office and he didn't do shit for you. the little trendy right wing stuff we saw for the last decade is officially over. there are no good names on youtube, no debates, all the memes are stale, and everyone is tired of fighting. there will be a blue wave and i'm going to sit back and collect gibs, get my student loans deleted, and watch as your gay little movement peters out into nothing. i'm voting for jews and globalists not because i want to but because i just want to see you all cope and seethe, suck my pathetic little dick you fucking faggots
>>534888733Here is how you solve inflation:>identify the companies that made a fortune during the covid pandemic>if they are still filthy rich, confiscate an appropriate volume of their wealth>burn the money to reduce the amount of usd in circulation>thus trimming down the supply to pre covid levels>ban the federal reserve to prevent recurring incidents
>>534891452The real one is worse. He says the entitlements that make us classier than places like India or South Africa are why it is better to live with their style of society So he can be a trash parasite and make our society more like theirs
>>534890889If you a lucky they will slow walk the population reduction. It's safer for them too. I'm letting Pleb after Pleb know about the bad ending. That's the only chance they have to slow or stop their own destruction. You might think you are just so clever tricking Plebs into going with the flow. I tell them about the waterfall and the rocks below in the hope that enough of them make it ashore before the plunge. Truth matters!
>>534891689billionaires want to make america like them only because it means they've successfully sucked out all the money from the system and thus everyone is left in squalor
>>534891554Technocratic eugenicists want all men to be like them, bald, maybe gay, and an aspy or autist. It's kind of funny.
>>534891452do you have proof? if so i will recant
>>534888733no gyom you seeits the things that benefit you directly that are the cause for all these problems, no us with the inside trading, money laundering and pushing, oligarch wars etci dont have the mental capacity to argue with these demons anymore, there is no point in talking sense into themas their leader has said, let the normal people deal with real world problems
>>534888733the poo joo wants to take away Social Security from elders as well.
>>534891139You started well but I don't think you get the impacts of spending velocity upon the economy right. Giving money to the poor is never the solution. That's literally inflactionary AND it creates no increase in productivity (perhaps consumption, but not productivity).
>>534888733If Elon Busk cuts SNAP and other social contract bandaids, what will people eat? Richer people?
>>534889443Any money white people have.If you think browns are going to get their gibs cut I've got a bridge to sell you.
>>534889126This nigger always talks about building Tesla. Tesla was founded and successfully made the original Roadster without him. He simply bought his way in with daddy's money. He's a piece of shit commie oligarch. Pic related.
>>534889771>getting mogg’ed by mutt dog, -10000 izzatLmfao that dog had finally had enough of living amongst filthy subhumans
>>534891659>I'm going to suck so many blue cocks and take blue dicks in my ass and eat blue cum instead of eating red cum and cocks, and everyone will cope and seethe!>>534891842google it
>>534888733Do you know what else is? Having never before seen levels of wealth concentration in the hands of so few, but this freak won't ever bring that up and nu/pol/ will seethe at the mere mention of it, just like they were trained to do like good NPCs.
>>534892050I agree with you
>>534888733They say this because they want more gibs for their failed enterprises.
>>534892018this but unironically, keep crying about it you dumb faggot
>>534891553>The Federal Reserve banks hoarded the gold and the depression was extended.le beep boop (brave ai)>The claim is partially accurate but requires nuance regarding which institutions were responsible. While the Federal Reserve in the United States is widely criticized for raising interest rates and tightening monetary policy to defend the gold standard during banking panics, thereby extending the depression, it was not the primary hoarder of gold globally. >The Bank of France and other members of the "gold bloc" (including Belgium, Switzerland, and the Netherlands) aggressively accumulated gold reserves starting in 1926, holding nearly 20% of the world’s gold stock by 1930. >This massive French gold hoarding exacerbated the global liquidity crisis, particularly after the U.S. Federal Reserve tightened policy in 1929 to curb speculation, which indirectly triggered the gold flows to France. >The U.S. Federal Reserve’s critical error was its refusal to act as a lender of last resort and its decision to raise rates in 1931 to protect gold reserves, which contracted the U.S. money supply by about one-third and deepened the domestic depression. >In summary, while the U.S. Federal Reserve made policy mistakes that prolonged the Great Depression, the global drain on gold reserves was significantly driven by the Bank of France’s accumulation, which constrained the ability of other central banks to provide liquidity. interdastingthe lack of liquidity was the big problem in this case. in the depression there were all kinds of goods on the shelves, just no money to pay for them because the currency (flowing money) became stagnant through gold hoarding.
>>534888733Inflation comes from printing money.
>>534892152good luck with that
>>534889490there's thousands of new jobs paying sub-minimum wage on farms thanks to Trump deporting illegals that are ready to be filled by American workers>how they can they afford to live on that!?same way the spics do, by putting a dozen people into the same rented house or apartment
>>534888733He's still seething about losing the $7,500 government incentives that were the reason people were buying his shitty Teslas. This guy is a shill and nothing more, only cares about his own personal finances. We can't get Chinese EVs because he's bribing our politicians to be able to keep selling his garbage and keep his stock prices inflated. We need to bring this autistic kike down.
>>534892357This is a banned file now, have you noticed you can't upload certain files to /pol/ anymore? Why is that? I had ti screenshot it to get it to post.
>>534888733They also don't want to talk about IQ and race. Admitting niggers aren't smart enough to into regular society and get rid of them. That would be the best thing ever done.
>>534889126Musk should be fucked in the face with a steel dildo on a jackhammer.
>>534891932He didnt say "give money to the poor". He said "money in the hands of the poor". A revelation of your bias.
>>534892003Not to mention, the electric car as a concept was 100 years old. They had them in the 1890s as production vehicles you could buy. GM had a full-fledged electric car in the 1990s. That was killed by pressure from oil and automotive companies who had existing product lines and facilities they were invested in.And the push for Tesla as a big American company really came from a lot of government spending tax credit schemes -- not that that is even bad. But the battery advances were all from foreign companies like Panasonic initially. The giga-casting tech is from an Italian company.
>>534888921We should probably take back that billion dollars he scammed.
>>534892523Based
>>534892158>the lack of liquidity was the big problem in this case. in the depression there were all kinds of goods on the shelves, just no money to pay for them because the currency (flowing money) became stagnant through gold hoarding.Correct. The deficit getting too small is actually what triggers the business cycle to crash.
>>534888733INFLATION IS CAUSED BY POOR PEOPLE NOT GOVERNMENT THAT PRINTS MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR CANT BE THAT NO BOY NUH UH SAY THAT PART OUT LOUD NOW MUSKY JEETS
>>534888733In Canada- why the fuck am I paying insane taxes for no benefit and retirement isn’t even an option anymore
>>534891932>You started well but I don't think you get the impacts of spending velocity upon the economy right.then explain, not just some cowardly "you're wrong" stuff. >Giving money to the poor is never the solution.yes it is and i explained how. every economist left and right agrees that wealth inequality rips a nation apart and only results in the virus (money class) killing the host, to borrow a term from michael hudson.>That's literally inflactionarynot really, and as i said already it would be less than a percent of supposed inflation. it may incur debt, but debt is not necessarily inflation. when people have money to spend, places where you spend money can survive. even milton freidman talks about this.>it creates no increase in productivity "hey, people can afford to eat out again, i better hire more line cooks and servers!"productivity is not a measure of anything but productivity. in and of itself, it is useless. if you produce something nobody wants or buys, then big deal, who cares? and we are more productive per worker than ever before, and the worker's share has fallen at a precipitous rate, rather than increasing. being a better worker means you make less and have to do more.>perhaps consumption, but not productivityconsumption drives a need for productivity. if you spent more time learning about economics and thinking things through, instead of watching pornography all day with your male relatives (national sport of portugal btw) you would have a better handle on this.
>>534888733END THE FED--END INFLATION, simple as.
>>534889029>most vulnerableAh yes, all those poor laquishas, pookies, and Carlos riding around in BMWs, Mercedes and luxury SUVs while living for free in section 8.
>>534892545Nah his idea was that the poor spending lifts the economy. That's retarded.
>>534888733Inflation is modern coin shaving. The best way to stop it is still to round up the coin shavers and hang them.
>>534892158The depression was caused by the banks that were later revealed to be the primary dealers of the FEDERAL RESERVE. Go figure their solution was to sieze the gold of the american public after creating the problem.
musk shilling for visajeet and the peter theil project what else is new
>>534888733when he says cut entitlements what he means is "lets take away stuff from white people"
>>534892018no, you are the one making the assertion, it's up to you to prove it. until then you're a lazy con artist like all lolbergs
>>534892816Literally this, they could never take ebt and welfare away from blacks, there would be mass riots kek
>>534892785>the stock market is the economyA fallacy. Yes, people spending money in your community is the economy. Not trading mortgages to china and exchanging currency ad infinitum.
>>534892674https://youtu.be/LxJW7hl8oqMreminds me of this videoi cringe out of my skin every time i hear some disingenuous shit talking about "balancing the budget".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BYhoMILwR4&t=43shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pex89N9OqogPeople need to understand at a more rudimentary level what government spending and debt actually are. Then these tricks that the rich try to pull won't work as well on you.
>>534892840you posted the image and I don't have to do what you tell me to, retard
>>534892914its completely ridiculous they aren't going to stop the flow of money to minorities, the only people they are attacking here when they say entitlements is white retirees, disabled white people who aren't in the workforce, and poor white people surviving on the safety nets, they know the soviet style door to door executions won't work this time, so what they are going to do is quietly starve you do death or die of an infection you can't get treated.
>>534892802>The depression was caused by the banks that were later revealed to be the primary dealers of the FEDERAL RESERVEhmmm>The premise that the Great Depression was caused by banks that were "primary dealers" of the Federal Reserve is incorrect based on historical and economic records. The Federal Reserve did not have "primary dealers" in the 1930s; this term refers to a modern group of financial institutions designated to trade directly with the Fed, a system established in 1987. >The Great Depression was primarily caused by a collapse in the banking system and monetary policy failures, not by the actions of specific Fed counterparties. Key factors included:>Federal Reserve Inaction: The Fed failed to act as a lender of last resort during banking panics, allowing the money supply to shrink by approximately one-third. >Bank Failures: Between 1930 and 1933, nearly 9,000 banks failed, wiping out savings and destroying credit intermediation. >Monetary Contraction: The Fed raised interest rates and sold bonds during crises, exacerbating deflation and debt burdens. >Structural Flaws: Many banks were non-members of the Federal Reserve and lacked access to liquidity, leading to cascading failures. >While the Fed later established the primary dealer system to facilitate open market operations, these entities did not exist during the 1930s and were not a cause of the Depression. btw the wizard of oz was a cautionary tale about adopting the gold standard, basically it is a false god. the oz is ounce, the yellow brick road is made of gold bricks, which lead to the wizard (gold standard). in the book the shoes were silver, and the less was that they should use silver to expand the money supply because whenever there is an economic contraction, the rich end up with all the gold. so the gold standard is a banker's wet dream. my point isn't that the fed is great, it's that the problem came from NOT INFLATING ENOUGH.
>>534893065STOP BEING TSUNDERE!!!
>>534888884This is deeply antisemitic.And doubly so considering you're Austrian.
>>534888733Inflation is caused by corporations raising prices arbitrarily so they can make infiniprofits. There isn't enough money and wealth at the bottom end to influence prices anymore.
>>534892997He is correct, of course. It was Godley who showed all that stuff years ago on sectoral balances.If the debt genuinely bothers you, the way to pay it down is to 1) get the growth rate above the interest rate. Since both the Fed and Treasury are monopoly operations, they can set their respective rates wherever they want. Or 2) run a large enough trade surplus with the rest of the world (whether you do that through massive increasing your exports or through closing off imports through autarky/self-reliance/material substitution is a policy choice informed by preferences and circumstances) so that the foreign countries are in deficit.Obviously, since assets and liabilities mirror each other to the penny across the world economic system, it is not possible for everyone everywhere to always be in surplus.But trying to run a budget surplus when you already run a trade deficit, especially a large one, is economic suicide.
>>534893402lol.
>>534893262>and the less was that they should use silver to expand the money supply because whenever there is an economic contraction, the rich end up with all the gold. so the gold standard is a banker's wet dream.This, of course, was a theme of William Jennings Bryant during one of his presidential runs.
>>534893262Primary dealers refers to those that are the primary lenders. This was a purposefully obfuscated FACT built into the charter of the federal reserve system. They were to remain anonymous and no one knew who the "primary dealers" were but assumed it was wall-street and other elites, but were gas-lit by the government and the media (owned by wall-street). Wall-street orchestrated the depression and used their federal reserve system and influence in regulatory boards and political power to slowly erode the original charter over the next 100 years. This is /pol/ so im not going to post an essay but feel free to keep peeling back the onion of the fed, Wallstreet, etc up until the housing market collapse of 2008, bailouts, and the last shackles holding the fed which was allowing them to own private property and trade it and FEC vs Citizens United (2010).
>>534893473Just how it works now kike. Amount of cash means nothing when every government prints money for no reason. Assets and prices go up when Jews decide they go up. Stocks? The retail market doesn't budge those at all. Only institutional investors do. Same with housing. Before retail traders could influence markets and other assets but now it's bullshit and you are a kike if you don't understand the difference in scale from 1800 isolationist America to global 2026 kike driven America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUUGNyhuf0I
>>534892583Submarines are actually what really propelled EV technology. You'd think that after 130 years we would have successfully tackled this.
>>534893761>amount of cash means nothing They dont actually print physical cash. Its digital and is done everytime you swipe your credit card, take out a loan, buy a car, get a mortgage etc. Yes, inflation is caused by "printing money". Not raising prices. Think of it like concentration. The molarity of a societies spending power goes DOWN as you introduce more currency into it. Thats inflation.
>>534894126If you create a lot of money, say $1T dollars. And you use it exclusively to build new housing, publicly owned housing we'll say, is it definitively inflationary? It would almost certainly have an inflationary effect on wages as people try to enter the construction market for jobs and other industries try to keep their workers. It would probably be inflationary on building materials as the market exists now, as the government competes with private firms for those resources.But it would almost certainly be deflationary in terms of rent and housing prices in affected geographic areas. This is the logic behind Richard Werner's academic work: that the creation of new productive assets and channeling new spending that way, is not inherently inflationary.
>>534893262>using AIplease start carrying around a potted tree to replace the oxygen you are wasting
>>534894323Prices falling due to a decrease in demand is not a deflationary event. That is simply a market effect if im not mistaken.
>>534894126Nobody said anything about physical cash nigger. Printing money no longer causes inflation! That money is too concentrated at the top end where it does nothing other than inflate assets with 0 value creation. Kikes 1-8 all take out loans, all buy assets, and due to the sheer amount of fake money they can create (90%~) it causes asset prices to go up, they sell, and now that money is real in their pockets. What does it do? Nothing. It sits in more assets.This just happens on a global scale. Also all governments that matter just print money so it literally does not matter. China? US? EU? As long as they agree to maintain some sort of balance between currencies nothing will happen. Welfare money and anything else isn't large enough in proportion to the total supply and what the kikes hold to have any effect on inflation anymore. The products are produced at such a massive rate that supply is almost never an issue for the common man. If a fast food worker makes $30/hr it won't cause inflation. Kikes will just raise prices as an excuse as they always have. Spending power for the common man only goes down because of kike price hikes. Countries will maintain a balance of currency value between them regardless of the absolute amount kikes have parked in assets.
>>534889379How do those cows get so fat on eating garbage?
>>534888733Musk and Trump are parts of the Jewish Federal Reserve plan to widen margins and pocket more profit by shutting down federal services.>mostVivek and Musk are, factually, objectively wrong. Welfare accounts for 16% of annual budget which is far, far below even half; let alone "most". The rest of the federal budget goes to Israel, and even though Netanyahu said he wants to somehow quit begging for money despite being a nuclear armed country, somehow it's obviously just not possible for vampires to stop bleeding their victims dry.You know: it's funny to me, watching politicians and the public twist and turn, scrambling to try to contort themselves some way into somehow to solve some problem which, in fact, has no solution whatsoever and never will.-- Unless of course you demand your money back from Rothschild (he's the one who took it) but we all know that will never even remotely happen.
>>534894703All that text to demonstrate your lack of understanding
>>534894880>2 paragraphs>All that textDamn zoomers are really fucking stupid!>But muh econ 101 supply and demand!!Hasn't mattered since 1982
>>534889780He's lying to you bc he thinks you're stupid and he is superior.
>>534894323>>534894663Oh, nvm. I see we are presuming that it came from the government. It would be wholly inflationary. Over the short-run it would result in a righward shift of the demand curve for materials, raising prices, then a left-ward shift in labor as the market is flooded with labor, a leftward shift in demand of "rent". Over the long run this balances out to a higher cost of materials which would result in unemployment of laborers having less money to rent shifting demand righward for rent and stagnating building all the while the government has to pay back the loan which is a tax-burden on the people. The resourcefags would then reduce production, builders would lay people off, and landlords would raise rent.
>>534894703You just described inflation being the result of printing money. >inb4 im a retard because you cant understand the topic
>>534891139>the inflation in the economy is due to banks making loans. new money is created when the loan is created/thread
>>534888733I have figured that it's the opposite, if the basic needs were free people wouldn't have to spend any government checks on rising rent and groceries. Not sure what that scammer is on about.
>>534895080Money ultimately comes from the government. They have the monopoly on its issuance. Private banks get their ability and authority to do it from their charters granted to them by the government.
>>534895400The FED is not a government bank, anon. The government doesn't issue its own currency and hasn't since 1913.
>>534888733The idea that the welfare state drives inflation is one of the most genuinely retarded ideas I've ever heard.Instead we should raise taxes and use them to enhance social programs. Moratorium on printing money above e.g. the desired rate of inflation. Raise minimum wage significantly (start at $25/hr) and strengthen unions aggressively. Raise taxes on the rich first and then everyone (to a lesser degree). Above all else, stop letting the ultra wealthy borrow against assets and defer the taxes on the inevitable sales to estate law. If money changes hands (above a sane limit) they will pay all of their taxes up front. No more loopholes.In this way, we can aggressively redistribute burdens and heal America. Will prices rise? Of course -- aggressively. But without the brrrrrr, there is nowhere but the rich from which this money can come overall.Time to return to the golden age of America, where high taxes funded the greatest era of our history. With those taxes, we created entire suburbs, an interstate system, and infrastructure we had the privilege to neglect for the next 75 years.
with the exception of less than a dozen posts, this entire thread is filled with the most brain dead, idiotic posts. Some are so fucking retarded I hope they are bait. I wish I could leave this fucking place, it is so fucking terrible.
>>534895501The Fed is an agent of Congress. Congress apportions all spending.
>>534895241Not what I said at all. I said the opposite, reading comprehension is tough without easy examples and step by step bullet points huh?Printing money no longer causes inflation. Loans and government spend do not contribute to inflation anymore. Inflation is solely the result of corporate price hikes. Money supply is so highly concentrated in the top end where it stays parked in assets that welfare spendand average consumer spend/wealth cannot meaningfully contribute to "inflation." Spending power only goes down because of arbitrary price increases for profit. There isn't enough money at the bottom end and there ever will be going forward to cause inflation. It's very simple. Until the economy is more balanced in wealth distribution you cannot cause inflation through government spending or pushing more money to the bottom end.
>>534895955Im not going to argue with you after you already defeated yourself, anon. You're a genuine retard.
>>534896084Back to r*ddit you go faggot. Too stupid to do anything other than dismiss! Board is full of dumbasses, you are one of them for sure.
>vote for billionaires & capital>surprised they want to suck all your blood like the stories of oldYou invited the vampires in
>>534896346>>534895955>parked in assetsit doesnt stay parked>billionaires only liquid by taking out loans against artificially pumped stocks>must pay interest on said loans>loans and their interest payments directly increase money supply>more money means existing money is worth less.the defacto digital currency we have is worthless if it stays still. Billionaires know this better than most. It MUST move, else it loses value. So it doesnt stay 'parked' anywhere.
>>534896346You said printing money doesn't cause inflation then went on a rant about how richfags taking out loans (printing money) to buy assets against their assets is what causes "prices to go up" (a result of inflation). Youre retarded. You just best yourself about the neck and face while calling other people retarded. Why would I even bother arguing with you when you are the best arguer against yourself? I win by doing nothing.
>>534889143The presence of browns in white countries is welfare
>>534888733will a Tesla win the Daytona 500?
>>534889029Careful you are beginning to sound like lefty/commie
Wasn’t Musk just advocating for UBI and robo-socialism just 2 weeks ago? What a grifter lol
>>534888733these dudes seem suicidal, or they haven't been punched in the face for running that mouth and they forgot it's possible. by 2030, they'll both wish they'd kept their mouths shut more
>>534897220He's preaching HBI (High instead of Universal). He's a fucking idiot. I hate when dumb fucks inherit gobs of money. They have no idea how the world works, but they have a lot of power to fuck it up even more.
>>534888733>welfare bad>>534889126>indians good>>534889780>welfare good>>534891345>Americans stupidGenius
>>534897320Theyre all larping as John Galt but forget they owe their entire existence to tax money and in the case if Vivek a literal fucking scam.
>>534896598Now you're getting somewhere! This is a closed loop system. The money up there doesn't matter for anyone else aside from institutions and billionaires. The "assets" they hold are passed around to each other and their own wealth holdings go up through fake value and fake money. None of what is happening here has an effect on the spending power of the average person. That money is created "on paper" and the money supply "increases" but it is in a vacuum where that money is essentially meaningless. Stock prices go up, and so do their other assets which are all unobtainable to any average person in any sort of meaningful quantity. It doesn't matter when that money doesn't actually move through the economy and stays constrained in that closed loop.Supply and demand only works for things like inflation when the majority of the supply is available to actually move through the majority of demand.>>534896598Yes you are a dumb nigger. In the broad system money supply increases no longer cause inflation. You can see above. Rich institutions and billionaires increasing their wealth does nothing other than increase their wealth. Their assets "inflating" are just intermediary vehicles to legitimize their fake money they made through a loan. Them adding another 1T or whatever to their own institution or accounts doesn't matter in the slightest. It's just a number. It's at a scale and so far removed from actual economics it does not matter. Add 10T, 100T, wouldn't matter! That money is as good a locked up and non-liquid. They know that if they spend and set that money free then that would cause actual inflation. That's why is stays parked and is only ever transferred on the upper end and has no broad effect on the economy.
>>534888733Yes, we should cancel all college grants to non citizens.We should also make sure non citizen businesses are ineligible for any government loans and grants as well, along with any tax breaks they recieve.
>>534897220He is terminally autistic and easy to manipulate. He will flipflop forever
>>534888733But he wants UBI. So really he's only angry about the X platform not being used for government payments of Social Security.
>>534888733Funny considering Elon is the biggest welfare queen there is.
>>534897957He doesn't want UBI. He wants you to lower your guard. People have social security and medicare/medicaid right now and he wants to take it away. There is no UBI and Musk isn't Congress, so he is in no position to give you UBI.
>>534897707>This is a closed loop system.stop being so fucking retardrelatively very little of the money in your "closed loop system" stays in what you call a closed loop. Money poofed into existence for billionaires is still mostly spent on things that effect the wider economy. Building AI datacenters for example. Raw materials, transport, labor, everything is paid for by hundreds of billions magicked into existence. Hundreds of billions which is injected into the real economy where real people live. If anything your "closed loop" scenario would only exacerbate inflation because it keeps it in a pressure cooker where it will still eventually lead to hyperinflation in a manner even more sudden and violent once it starts.
>>534888733This is correct but their pro h1b shit is garbage
>>534888884you mean like the federal reserve owning trillions of assets to give guaranteed interests on bank deposits that arent even the banks original money...
>>534897919Musk is a globalist puppet. We are supposed to believe that he is a self-made-man, when in reality, he's a hired shill born into a satanic family.
>>534897707They know that if they spend and set that money free then that would cause actual inflation. That's why is stays parked and is only ever transferred on the upper end and has no broad effect on the economy.What you're describing would cause deflation.Maybe you shouldn't be poopooing econ 101 courses when you're so lost discussing the topic that an econ 101 course might help you to understand some basics.
>>534898228>Money poofed into existence for billionaires is still mostly spent on things that effect the wider economyWhich then goes back into billionaire pockets because billionaires own the firms which provide the goods and services we buy. It all ends up accumulating back at the top. Every program we cut on the backs of tax cuts is a double-dip for capital. Before the cuts, they paid in taxes for other people to buy services they produce. After the cuts, they no longer have to pay themselves -- it's other people paying them.
>>534889443Like when the government gives you free money to keep your fake kike businesses afloat
>>534898571>1 Trillion created to build AI surveillance infastructure>90% recycled into billionaire pockets>10% goes into wider economy via payroll and raw materials>repeat even with your cope thats still a shitton of money leaving this mythical "closed loop" on a regular basis.
>>534899081You're not going to address any point I actually made, are you? From the guy talking shit about low quality posts, that's a genuine irony.
>>534898426>What you're describing would cause deflation.also this
>>534898571Billionaires dont actually have 1 billion dollar bills sitting in a vault, anon. They dont own a billion dollars in tangible assets that they purchased with a billion dollars. Its an estimate of their assets which often include the valuation of their companies which has been known to reach zero dollars.
>>534899137I argue my central point, not get distracted by pillpul
>>534899185This would be a great argument if they had to actually sell to get money. They borrow against their assets... tax free. No price movement, no taxes. I'm really fucking sick of this argument because it pretends it's relevant. Billionaires could, with a snap of their fingers, translate arbitrarily large amounts of paper wealth into real wealth without ever generating a taxable event.
>>534899081The government has to inject money into the economy because dollars ultimately originate from the government.
>>534899301>no taxesthey still have to pay interestmeaning stock value must always go upmeaning more value must be pumped into a stockmeaning more money must be created to pump stockmeaning money is worth less
>>534899400>because dollars ultimately originate from the government.kill yourself
>>534888884paint anything good lately? criminally close to legendary digits
>>534899455You're not actually disputing that, are you? The government is the sole supplier of that which it demands as payment for taxes.
>>534889126Why didn't he just make the company in India where all the talent is?
>>534889379genuinely unreal that i can't tell if this is AI or if something about the lens is throwing me offeither way i know it's an accurate representation of jeetland
>>534888733WOW!!!!!! whites like Trump and Elon show racial differences between whites and the rest of Humanity.
Vivek made his career off scamming people with medicine that didn't work.
>>534899540>You're not actually disputing that, are you?yes>>534899540>The government is the sole supplier of that which it demands as payment for taxes.that it in turn repays to the federal reserve at interest for the 'privilege' of using dollarsAre you really posting here while being unaware that the Federal Reserve bank is a private bank?
>>534899429Oh wow yeah great point! Luckily, fucking BANKERS are the ones paying for e.g. SNAP. Last I heard, the fucking bilderberg group was plotting to give everyone universal healthcare with all of their proceeds, and using the remainder to subsidize the creation of new housing.What the FUCK are you smoking such that you feel the need to pepper me with such an unceasing deluge of these totally fucking trivial inanities?
>>534888733Yep his right, all that corporate welfare over the last 30 years.
>>534888733Elon musk needs to shut the fuck up and pay his 20% wealth tax so i can get some.chicken fucking tindies
>>534888733I agreethe government is inefficient and shouldn't run our investments or retirement plans
>>534899540Lmao. Oh lord. The government hasnt issued its own currency since 1913. I feel like this shouldn't even have to be repeated.
>>534888733>billionaire and pajeet imports now dictate US policy as they became the overclass ruling over americansFunny how you guys voted against immigration but these 2 immigrants are now pontificating over how you need to become poorer so they can take advantage of it.
>>534899185Many, many years ago, Ivanka Trump said that her father stopped her as they were walking into one of his buildings. He said 'that homeless man has more money than I do.' The ultra wealthy don't really have any money. It's all wound up in this ridiculous debt based economy that is crushing most of us.
>>534899695The government does not pay the Federal Reserve anything unless the Federal Reserve is a bondholder of a specific bond. And then, the Federal Reserve remits the interest it earns back to the Treasury.Congress approves spending. That spending is in deficit -- they have credited more money than they have debited. By identity, that creates reserves in the banking system in the amount of that deficit. What bond sales do is they drain those excess reserves from the banking system in support of the central bank's overnight interest rate target.
>>534888733>We'll have universal high income>Social safety net is magnet for inflationWhat am I supposed to get from this?
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>>534888884>>534888888 <portal to digitsYou can find me at gastheniggers.ca
>>534888733Pick a million random Americans, Elon receives more than all of them combined.
>>534888733Lol, that jeet exists onlys because of the welfare system, the reason his parents immigrated to USA.
>>534888733Its money in the bank and in stocks that drive inflation. Rich fags shifting blame because they know they are root cause of the problem. Every dollar not in circulation in the market drives inflation. The social staate is very oposite. Its always moving. Always changing hands.Money in stocks is sitting still. Money in the bank is doing nothing. Its a asset that is missing from the market.Fucking retards not understanding economy.Social money is so low and needed instantly thatit has no time to do nothing.From taxto hand of the needing in to food, cloths in to tax and in to wages and tax again and back in the circel.Meanwhile billions of dollars sit in stocks doing nothing. Paying no o e and being taxed to brought back in to circulation.
>>534898426>Cause deflationNope. That money entering the lower portion and becoming mobile through the market would cause inflation for the broad economy. They need to maintain a certain spending power for the masses so their quarterly profits look good on paper. The modern system is absolutely nothing even remotely close to whatever garbage they taught you.Consumer spend is managed not some sort of magical thing that happens. Everything is precisely managed from the top down. They need the consumer dollar to be worth just enough without being diluted to prop up the basic underlying economy that allows them to keep building wealth at the top end exclusively.Billionaires spend causes the wrong assets to inflate not deflate. Deflation is an economic impossibility when the prices of certain assets are artificially kept high. Economics only works when things aren't so skewed that they can be controlled absolutely. More money at the bottom too quickly = inflation of the wrong assets (the ones the Jews slowly want to acquire while replacing everyone with browns). It's happening, obvious, you can see how fake everything is but refuse to because you still believe in some magic economic forces existing in your textbook like they did before things went entirely global and the scale skewed so far in favor of such a small group of people.
>>534899701>Oh wow yeah great point! Luckily, fucking BANKERS are the ones paying for e.g. SNAP. Last I heard, the fucking bilderberg group was plotting to give everyone universal healthcare with all of their proceeds, and using the remainder to subsidize the creation of new housing.what the fuck are you talking about?Where did I ever imply that was the case? I get the feeling you are as unaware as the other anon that the Federal Reserve, the ultimate source of all dollars in existence, is a private bank. At the end of the day that is who collects all the interest that is attached to ever single dollar ever created. Interest that must be paid by sucking labor and material from the land and laborers. >>534899893>The government does not pay the Federal Reserve anything unless the Federal Reserve is a bondholder of a specific bond.What does it matter if the government pays it or not? Eventually every dollar in existence is owed with interest to the Fed. Regardless if the government pays it, or some wall street bank, or whoever else holds the bond.>Congress approves spending.that doesnt mean the government creates dollars. It just means that it (supposedly) directs where they go. Not that they exist in the first place.>By identity, that creates reserves in the banking system in the amount of that deficit. wow. "By being in debit we're actually creating money!!" Use your common sense, you might as well be adding fairy dust to unicorn farts.
>>534888884Fpbp
The purpose of a state isn't to grow GDP.
>>534900870
>>534900441>Eventually every dollar in existence is owed with interest to the Fed.But it's not? Have you ever considered the possibility that conspiracy theories regarding what the Fed is are fed to you so you'll support dumb shit like getting rid of social security because you think government debt is the same thing as household debt?
>>534888733>magnetExcess money supply is the very essence of inflation; not a magnet, not a provocation, not an influence - it is the mathematical definition of inflation.Thd fastest and most efficient way to cull the money supply is to confiscate and erase all wealth of the top 10 richest persons.Inflation halts for everyone and only 10 people are hurt.
>>534901032>But it's not?yes it is. Even your verbal gymnastics on reserves and bonds and other jewish weapons prove me right. All those usury mechanisms ultimately originate with the fed.>Have you ever considered the possibility that conspiracy theories regarding what the Fed is are fed to you so you'll support dumb shit like getting rid of social security because you think government debt is the same thing as household debt?not an argumentbut if we're engaging in ad hom and strawmans i'll just call you a shabbos goy and fuck off my board. Like calling someone a conspiracy theorist has any fucking weight after the last ten years of bullshit. If anything its a compliment because I've been right all along
>>534901298Paying interest on bonds or even issuing them in the first place is not something a country is required to do, it's a policy choice that has been made.
>>534888733It's funny to me how no one suggests telling the (((banks))) who own U.S. debt to fuck off. The Left wants to tax who they perceive to be rich. The Right wants to end entitlements. No one wants to take money from the people that are actually stealing it from us.
>>534888733>Elon wants to take even more resources away from the public that laboured to produce those resources in the first place, to put in his own pocket, which already contains hundreds of billions of dollars>... even if it means people who are struggling are deprived of the necessities of life, and pushed over the edge, Elon still wants to take more things away from them...Literally insane, insatiable, sociopathic greed.
>>534890418>Meanwhile Swedens welfare state is open to even illegalsSo is the welfare state in the U.S. If you are a citizen, it's hard AF to get benefits. If you are an illegal immigrant, you get free housing, free utilities, free food, free healthcare, free tuition. Basically everything is free for non-citizens.
>>534888733Easy to say when you're autistic and can't stop yourself from geeking out on work and get tons of reward from it. Also conveniently not mentioning the money printed that did all the inflation. And ALSO not mentioning the absurd profits kept by so many companies and not handed down.
>>534891139>around 97% of the inflation in the economy is due to private banks making loansding ding ding ding ... and who owns the banks?
>>534888733The social safety net is h1b visas, illegals, money to israel, and usury, and the entire existence of the parasitic jew.
>>534901369See what happens when that is tried. Thats why analogies of parasites and drug addictions are always used when discussing global fractional reserve banking. You COULD just stop using the system that enslaves you, but the entire world depends on the very systemt hat enslaves it so completely that the enitre globe would fall into anarchy and chaos if someone tried to not play by the same game. Isnt it funny that almost 100% the countries the US has bombed in the past 20 years or so dont have a central reserve bank?Also the easiest thing ever to prevent. Politicians are the most spineless morally corrupt cowards on the planet and have been for all of recorded history, no way they would ever challenge the system that gives them social status and wealth.>insert jpg of Gadhafi and JFK being murdered
>>534901738>You COULD just stop using the system that enslaves you, but the entire world depends on the very systemt hat enslaves itAll it would really take would be for Russia, China, and the U.S. to seize control of the world's financial system and cut out the people at the top of the pyramid. Or to simply stop paying back the debt they owe.
>>534900288>Rich fags shifting blame because they know they are root cause of the problem. Every dollar not in circulation in the market drives inflation.Most wealthy people struggle with liquidity. The have a lot of assets, but turning these assets into cash is pretty hard. So you are wrong. Rich people aren't just sitting on piles of cash.
>>534900870what if you live in an economic zone?
>>534901032>conspiracy theoriesI cant imagine what its like being this uneducated and retarded. Do you think that universities don't teach that the FED is a privately owned central bank? Lmao.
>>534888733Actually insane levels of chutzpah accepting $38bn of government funding for his companies and then accusing others of exploiting the 'entitlement state'
>>534901406The left wants to tax the bourgeoisie (middle class). The right wants to nuke domestic labor costs after """"derugulating"""" us into a currency that isn't worth shit.
>>534888733i think elon sees usa as a cash cow hence him protecting his greedy jeet mates he knows arent qualified. Monkeys job coding btw
>>534901032>Federal Reserve Act of 1913>Conspiracy TheoryIt must be painful being this stupid
>>534902697>The right wants to nuke domestic labor costs after """"derugulating"""" us into a currency that isn't worth shit.That isn't what the Ohio jeet is saying. He's saying we need to stop pissing away money on illegal immigrants and faggots that don't want to work. And the jeet has a point.
>>534889232woke is libtards allowing jeets in foreign government as though jeets arent proven to be a national security threat already,We need to have that lil talk anon..
lol i honestly think some of poor misguided retards didnt know the fed was a private bank. They are probably asking claude all about it right now
>>534888733these billionaires are awfully uppity.How about we tax the fucking shit out of billionaires instead?I've been watching alot of video by How Money Works, and i've realized that billionaires actually have much less power over the government than i thought they did.The threat of billionaires threatening to leave isn't much of a threat when you realize that billionaires can't take their infrastructure with them,only few elite workers are willing to leave their homes to go after billionaires, and the government can simply print more money.
>>534889443visa gives you entitlement to grift your host, elon knows that far to well.. ever ask why nobody else did all that..
>>534902697And the better option than either of these ideas is to tell the domestic and foreign (((private owners))) of $34 Trillion in U.S. debt to pound sand. Pay off intragovernmental debt. The rest can walk away with the money they already stole from the U.S. people and not get a dime more.
>>534888884OY VEY SOMEONE SHIT THIS ANTISEMITE UP
>>534902947>How about we tax the fucking shit out of billionaires instead?How about we tax the shit out of the people who own the banks in which the billionaires do business? Why stop with the billionaires? Let's go all the way to the top.
>>534902878I dont care what mental-gymnastics you have to perform to obfuscate reality, anon. He didnt say that and will never say what you think he said.
>>534888733sweet, they're throwing in the towel already and going full troll modeshame it benefits a kike, but that was the plan from the start
>>534902947>How about we tax the fucking shit out of billionaires instead?The pro-billionaire brainwashing and propaganda is too strong in the US. People think having billionaires actually pay taxes like a common person is communism>Warren Buffett — 'There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning.'
>>534903069Unfortunately they sold the debt to europe and china, anon. Did you think the government has only been pretending to be adversarial to the U.S populace or is it because they have sold us out and know the charade is ending and thats why they militarized the police and are setting up a survielance state at the behest of their corporate overlords?
>>534902947>The threat of billionaires threatening to leave isn't much of a threat when you realize that billionaires can't take their infrastructure with themThe final redpill is understanding that most companies are basically just fronts for the government. Musk makes his money because he runs our space program. Gates made his money because he made the software the U.S. uses to spy on its own people. Google is basically legalized spying and the government pays them for their data. There is no such thing as private companies and billionaires. Most of our agricultural conglomerates are "critical infrastrucutre" and receive insane subsidies to remain afloat. Taxing these faggots would be the same as taxing the U.S. people. How would Elon pay up? By charging us more for rockets and Starlink? Taxing billionaires is like taxing our own government.
>>534903166>He didnt say that and will never say what you think he said.His tweet literally said that if you shut down the entitlement state, you end inflation. That is exactly what he said.
>>534903394>Unfortunately they sold the debt to europe and china, anonThe Top 2 foreign government debt holders are China and Japan, who own a combined $2 Trillion of our debt. Cool. Pay them back. The rest, fuck them. We know who (((they))) are.
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>>534888733conservatives are the majority of welfare recipients, so idk why this is a position that conservatives ever choose to take. do they all think that by copying the rich guy's policies that they'll somehow be rich too someday?
>>534903474Which isnt true and wasnt what you said he said lol. Getting rid of social safety nets DOESNT END INFLATION. WHAT THE FUCK ARE OUR TAXES GOING TOWARDS IF NOT SOCIAL SAFETY NETS.
>>534903665Holy fuck. Just look at OP's picture. That is literally what the Ohio jeet said.
>>534903618This has to be one of the most infuriating people I've ever seen. His entire alzheimer drug scam is so blatant. How everyone isnt shitting on him over this is beyond me now that are seeing such a massive uptick in dementia. What a scumbag.
>>534903646>conservatives are the majority of welfare recipientsA common misperception. Red states do receive more benefits, but that is mostly due to demographics. Like, for instance, Alabama. Who despite being a Red State has a 30% Black population. Or Connecticut, who despite being a blue state, is about 95% white. It isn't political leaning that determines government support, but race.
>>534888733>>534888884>your parent and their parent put into a system to help their child and other americans down the the line, they planted a seed to give you shade.>meanwhile first gens faggots who barely put anything in the system want to cut the trees, and the call them entitlements.>YOU GET NO HEALTHCARE>YOU GET NO FREE SCHOOL>YOU GET NO UNEMPLOYMENT BENIFITS>YOU GET NO RETIREMENT>YOU DON'T DESERVE COPS OR FIREFIGHTERSYOU GET NO ENTITLEMENTS AND YOU WILL BE HAPPYEntitlement are 1st gen PC talk for destroying anything built to help other Americans all to ensure you become a good consumer goy on the pay wheel.
>LOOK EVERYBODY, AN IMMIGRANT HAS AN OPINION
>>534903844>How everyone isnt shitting on him over this is beyond meThis is the problem with multicultural societies. Small minorities can wield significant political power by being a voting block that can tip the balance of power. When swing states are being determined by margins that are in the tens of thousands, a unified jeet voting block can be the determining factor in an election. Everyone sees this, but they don't want to tip the balance of power away from them. Even if it means losing the Ohio governor's race.
>>534903746>He's saying we need to stop pissing away money on illegal immigrants and faggots that don't want to work. And the jeet has a point.Thats not what he said, you fucking retard. Holy shit. He said we need to get rid of entitlement programs. Broad statement. Not "we need to get rid of illegal immigrants and lazy people" focused statement. Also, a lot of people dont fucking realize how a lot of americans just need temporary assistance which has been NUKED. I got a new job and was in-between health insurance policies and had to use medicaid for an injury. I ended up just paying out of pocket at a fucking urge to care because it was IMPOSSIBLE to get a fucking xray. Then I needed an mri that took over a fucking year of getting denied so I just paid the $8k. You have no idea how bad things already are and its not because im lazy or an immigrant. Its because our taxes don't go towards the shit they are supposed to go to. 100 billion for Elon. 100 billion for the surveilance state. NOTHING FOR YOU.
>>534888733Remember when Musk said money would be worthless and that we would all get high paying UBI? I'll celebrate when this faggot OD's on some drug and keels over.
>lol
>>534888733ok great. let's get rid of income and property tax then call it a day.
>>534888733Elon Musk>we need UBI now because AI is taking all the jobsAlso Elon Musk>fuck welfare niggersI don't think this guy has any actual convictions beyond get money and fuck trannys.
>>534904054You nailed it.
>>534888733Musk is one of the biggest beneficiaries of welfare. His businesses are based on government subsidies. Of course if I could end both corporate and personal welfare together, I would.
>>534890206>imagine being an AI
>>534888733You need to reduce welfare and reduce taxes, he is right but he is a jeet
>>534888733The welfare state is how leftists bribe voters.That's why they import millions of people to Europe who of course will remain poor and depend on gibs.Any highly skilled and well paid immigrant would vote right.
>>534889352>Pay into a systemHere is the issue
>>534904754Neither of which reduces the rate of inflation. So, hes a stupid piece of shit advocating for something under false-pretenses that is obvious to anyone that was able to pass a highschool economics course.
>>534904167>Thats not what he said, you fucking retard.
>>534904600The only things that should be getting subsidized are steel and construction materials, semiconductors, things like that. Not electric cars.
>>534888733kekfucking republicanspreaching the same old failed bullshitit hasn't worked so far and it's not going to magically start working now
>>534888733This filthy disgusting inbred jeet stole a billion dollars from the sick, the elderly and the dying. Now he demands that poor folks get nothing, not even food to survive for their children not to starve to death in inflated america. The jeet shows its true colors. Remember, they deserve nothing but hate like they've been getting, they deserved to be covered in jam and ate alive by insects, They are subhuman verminous slugs. Hurting everyone around them gets them more izzat, it's why they deserve to be hated more than anyone, even the lowliest nigger crackheads.
>>534888733Lol. Two men who built their fortunes on government money now want to pull up the ladder. Predictable.
>>534888884FPBP Musk wants to cut off everyone's gibs so he can have more gibs
>>534888733Bullshit. Inflation is exclusively because of no gold standard and the constant bailouts for oligarchy banks
>>534904604Imagine being human!
>>534904930>Neither of which reduces the rate of inflation.Subsidized housing absolutely increases the rate of inflation. You have millions of people that can't afford to live in their present residence and this drives up the prices for people that don't receive subsidies. This is primarily why housing in the U.S. is so completely fucked right now. You can say the same for health care. Food. Pretty much any entitlement on the book. When an entire class is given free money to buy shit they can't afford, this absolutely is a huge factor in inflation. Subsidies create artificial demand that causes prices to skyrocket.
>>534904950So he didnt say we need to deport illegals and did say we need to get rid of social services. Thanks for, again, proving yourself wrong. You keep contradicting yourself.
>>534888733Social security and medicare are for heritage americans who were born here, and have been working and paying taxes into the system their whole lives. These immigrants can't decide that just because their own grandparents don't live here, does not mean that the ones who do should be put out on the streets and left to die.
>>534905239>So he didnt say we need to deport illegals and did say we need to get rid of social services.Same thing. Remove the subsidies for illegal immigrants and you remove the illegals.
>>534905173You know what solves that problem and we paid fucking taxes to remedy? Build more houses. We also spent a trillion dollars for infrastructure yet nothing was done. It was supposed to pay for internet infrastructure to rural areas and that never happened. Earlier you said printing money doesnt cause inflation but here you are conflating rising prices with inflation. AGAIN. God damn. Youre not a very bright student.
The trillion dollar military budget that does nothing but fund losses to Iran and Russia surely has nothing to do with inflation
>>534905375So, theyre going to not remove illegals and just expect them to starve to death by not using our tax dollars to pay for services that americans already paid for? You might actually be fucking retarded, anon. This is some supreme cope.
>>534888733Gonna be fucked situation when all jobs are lost to AI, and any social safety nets have been dismantled. Add in sprinkle of restless migrant populations causing problems, and the rivers will flow red.
>>534888733republicans have been talking about dismantling the welfare state since reagan. It's never going to happen. The whole thing is just bread and circus for the base. Which is ironic considering the biggest recipient of gibs as a whole is the boomer class (outclassing even niggers). Getting rid of gibs has always been a complete nonstarter because it's a political death sentence when boomers are the largest voting bloc across the aisle.Also this nigga is a pajeet, no thanks
>>534905408>You know what solves that problem and we paid fucking taxes to remedy? Build more houses.Why would we build more houses and infrastructure just to house more people that can't pay for it? This is literally why inflation is occurring. The better solution is to stop artificially subsidizing the housing market with government funds and spurning inflation. Your solution to inflation is to throw gas on the fire. How about we stop providing benefits to illegals? We can start there. Also, let's stop paying (((private lenders))) interest on $38 Trillion they stole too.
>>534905544>The trillion dollar military budget that does nothing but fund losses to Iran and Russia surely has nothing to do with inflationWe literally spend more on debt interest than we do on the military. Instead of cutting our military, why don't we stop letting banks fuck all of us? After that, let's talk about stopping the wars. But the biggest problem the U.S. is facing is from the people who own our debt (and also own our politicians on both sides of the aisle), not stupid wars (which are also a problem, but not as much a problem as our debt-based financial system).
>>534888733He's lying...Dirty little secret is indians CANNOT exist in nations without handouts and special financial treatment.I have some friends in LatAm who laugh when indians show up. they awlays leave in 4-6 weeks because they can't make it on their own. The first need handouts. THEN they bring their people in. Then they start up their own black market financial system.They CANNOT make it without handouts to get their grigt up and running.Vivek knows this. He wants welfare cut for American's because he knows most Americans have absolutely NO IDEA the sweetheart deals these assholes get on their tax dollar.Vivek means to harm American citizens..
>>534905720>Which is ironic considering the biggest recipient of gibs as a whole is the boomer class (outclassing even niggers).This presumes that you believe people that paid social security tax and income tax for their entire lives are getting gibs. As much as boomers take, they also paid as much into the system. This is something you can't say about niggers, that are mostly unemployed and don't contribute economically. The real problem are the people who own the banks. And also the illegal faggots that haven't paid a dime into our our system (and still aren't because they are taking cash jobs while receiving gibs).
>>5349057228/8 Should have realized you were trolling.
>>534888884Unironically this. We haven't had any real capitalism since the first "Too Big To Fail" business got bailed out by our tax dollars.
>>534905928>Vivek means to harm American citizens..Of course he does. But he won't get that chance because he is going to lose the election.
>>534906139>Should have realized you were trolling.It's not a troll. Please tell me how building more houses solves the problem of high housing prices that were already caused by artifical government intervention in the housing market? And we don't need to just build more houses. We need more water. More plumbing. More power plants. More roads. More internet services. And all of this would be fine, but no one is paying for any of this except for the government that is just printing more money to cover the bill. Please tell me how this doesn't cause inflation? The better solution is to stop subsidizing this shit and let the illegals return to Mexico and India and let the niggers return to the ghetto.
>A welfare queen and a phrama scamer have an opinion It's too tiring
>>534888733this is true but alos we should strip the billionaires of all their wealth too for suggesting such faggotry
>>534906132That very well may be true, but it's a fundamental misunderstanding of how social security and medicare tax works. You're paying for the old/sick people at the time of tax collection. It's not a 401k where you're putting away your social security money into an account that starts paying out when you're 65.Regardless, the biggest government expense is medicare and social security. Nobody will ever touch these programs despite them being blatant ponzi schemes, because doing so is political suicide. Boomer fox news republican voters will claim they want to get rid of entitlements but then they'll start foaming at the mouth if you do anything about medicare/social security. These are also the same people who want the government to do anything it can to prop up their real estate values at the expense of younger generations because "fuck you I got mine"
>>534906167>We haven't had any real capitalism since the first "Too Big To Fail" business got bailed out by our tax dollarsThe problems with American Capitalism date back much further than this. Everything post WW2 has basically been one massive government subsidy designed to support the war machine. Agriculture has become a strategic asset producing shit like corn, whose primary value is as a wartime commodity with a ridiculous caloric value to feed a population being bombed. Housing because urban sprawl to ensure nuclear survivability. Interstates popped up to support the movement of troops and military equipment. Airlines are subsidized by the government and considered a wartime reserve asset. America is unironically less capitalistic than China and all of it's businesses start and end with the military and intelligence services.
>>534907070>That very well may be true, but it's a fundamental misunderstanding of how social security and medicare tax works.You sound like some retarded liberal that is on 4chins to "troll the chuds." You are disingenuous. Simply pretending you are smart by repeating the stupid shit other say doesn't mean you have a brain cell in your head. I understand the welfare state perfectly. Boomers paid into the system. They are now taking out. That was exactly what Medicare and Social Security (which are not optional btw) were designed to do. Illegals are not paying into the system. They actually avoid paying into the system by taking cash jobs. Jeets get subsidized business loans from the government not available to citizens. Basketball Americans get gibs without having jobs. I understand the welfare state perfectly. You are giving everyone a pass except the people that actually did contribute to our economic system (Boomers). And none of this changes the fact that gallows need to be built for the bankers that stole $40 Trillion from us (and still are).
>>534907070>It's not a 401k where you're putting away your social security money into an account that starts paying out when you're 65That is literally what it is. It's a government 401K that you can't opt out of. That is what it was designed to do. Read the fucking Social Security Act of 1935 you fucking retard.
((((//""pol""//)))) has become a brown communist shithole. Musk and Thiel are captains of industry who continue the tradition of white captains of industry like Ford and Carnegie. America was built on white capitalist principles, ie. get your ass to work, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, build, invest, not ask for handouts. Seething Bolshevik non-whites will have a problem to anything Musk said.
