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>>534896658
they operate on identity politics and emotions.
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>>534896658
Is the 1st comment retard trying to argue it's plausible that behind the 3rd world dysfunctional and corrupt veneer of modern greece there's a high tech paradise kept in secret from the rest of the world? And furthermore, that greeks are white? lmao really?
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>>534896658
Just throw the pic with the Honda Civic in the historical movie.
This argument is solved, it's not realism, it's coherence.
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>>534896872
Hello retard.
>And furthermore, that greeks are white? lmao really?
Greeks thought Helen of Troy was fair skinned and fair haired yes. This is how she is described. Your bait is shit.
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>>534896658
> Congrats on being the biggest fucking moron alive! You fucking idiot! you absolute fucking baffooon! Everyone, everyone! Look at this genuine fucking cretin! You goddamn imbecile! You fucking fuck stupid... dummy... ignorent... fuck. [cardiac arrymthia sounds] fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!!!!! You hear me??? FUUUUUUUCK! [Deep panting]
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>>534896658
I appreciate whenever someone gets them or out themselves that it's just anti white bullshit.
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The liberal nothing matters gambit. Nothing matters so our way is right. No, you can't do it your way because nothing matters and it's wrong.
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>>534896658
no they understand perfectly well
but their ideology requires them to pretend like obvious things are not obvious, and this applies to many if not most of their beliefs and policy proposals and everyone conforming to that is the pillar that undergirds the entire ideology so to betray it is the ultimate sin in progressivism
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>>534896658
>New York has always been a melting pot
everyone involved here is jewish, kys pajeet
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>>534896658
This confuses them
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>>534898261
By “always” they probably mean when it became the New York everyone knows and recognizes.
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>>534898774
don't care
the term melting pot was coined by a rat kike
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Melting_Pot_(play)
America is not a melting pot, it was created for FREE WHITE MEN.
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>>534897496
Upvoted times a billion
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>>534898948

Hideous
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>>534898998
best part is that kike wasn't even American. born and died in england making kike propaganda about our country that still infests the minds of niggerloving shitskin worshipping faggots to this day.
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>>534898948
You’re not wrong but [insert name for a place that got fucked by immigration here] would have happened regardless.

New York was “boring” (if you find living side by side with literal subhumans fun) before immigration turned it into what it is and what it is now most well known for.

New York post-50s/60s is practically a different city. You’re right.
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>>534898948
I’m also going to point out that it was a melting pot for WHITE people, WHITE immigrants (retards like Michael Moore think all immigrants are the same but they’re just not) from European nations, before everyone else (all the browns) tainted it by flooding into it.
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>>534896658
White suck at logic too, they're poojeet tier.

The OLIVE RACE, and any race that had empires (so not whites), understood and applied logic... that's how they spread happiness to the people that they conquered.

If your people had colonies, they didn't have empires... if anything their descendants should be punished for JUSTICE.
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>>534896658
they are not, they argue in bad faith with the only goal to "win", even if what the one they argue with said is true or ethical
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>>534898948
America was founded by Queen Isabel, the HOLY MOTHER of the Hispanic people, when she made America into Spain and its people into Spaniards.

IF ONLY the Roman Empire would have killed all whites from Europe (and parts of the Middle East), humanity would be a much better place. EVERYONE who studies history agrees with this!
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>new york is a melting pot, ancient greece was not
Troy was literally in Turkey
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>>534899657
Ancient Greece has identify in mind. It was not a melting pot the way the modern word denotes it. Each city state was its own fucking thing.
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>>534899719
had* identity* what the fuck
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>>534896872
Daily reminder over 50% of Portugal's population were Africans after the slaves were free'd, that is why every portonigger has an African nose
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why do conservatives struggle with not raping children
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If Iliad was performed on stage in ancient Greece, Helen would be played by a man.
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>>534899857
it just seems that way since conservatives are the only ones who reproduce and thus have children around. now do per capita!
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>>534899857
Both sides do that, you Silly Billy.
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>>534899857
you lost, tranny
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sorry im too terminally gainfully employed. who are these literal whos, what are their points and who am i supposed to be rooting for

>>534899857
also answer this please
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>>534896658
The face that launched a thousand ships?
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>>534899857
>my side (amazing!) always innocent
>your side (ick) always guilty
this is the crux of the matter
you can't communicate with people that toe the company line and feign ignorance when confronted
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>>534898456
a republican tranny jew?
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>>534899808
Thanks !
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>>534900155
>rightoids claims for years that democrats are pedos
>implicate almost the entire republican party trying to prove it
Brother, just take the L. Johnson is the only guy in this photo who hasn't flown the lolita express. The only guy in this photo who used to be a democrat is now a republican.
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>534900408
the leftist/jew always accuses you of what he is, example #90178234986739
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They’d be against a black man playing a Chinese emperor. But they’d be fine with a black woman playing an English queen.

This tells you they value white people a whole lot lower than blacks and Chinese.
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>>534896658
because they're purely emotional
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>>534896658
I've been thinking way too much about stuff like this, but i've reached mainly two conclusions; 1. being that it's religious (i'll explain), 2. being that they're spiteful mutants.

First one is that they're so zealously brainwashed and indoctrinated into this new secular religion that they literally can not conceive of something that might be heretical to it. They're simply repeating religious dogma they've been indoctrinated through their life, and especially through higher education in the humanities, to dogmatically believe. This of course creates many obvious contradictions, but since it's a religion and not simply a shared worldview that's been arrived to by either simple logic or empirical observations, it can not be criticized or seemingly compromised in any way shape or form. Mind you i'm not saying the problem is the concept of religion, but that this very specific secular "neo-religion" is the best explanation for it. Since they don't have the christian church to take morality from, they've been brainwashed into this neo-morality of this neo-religion.

Second is that many of them are simply spiteful mutants, They're usually ugly, deformed, low IQ or have any other form of traditionally undesired characteristic. Now, i'm not saying there's a shortage of funny-looking chuds to say the least, but the difference i've noticed is that unlike the chud, the leftist/libtard hates himself and thus the world for his or her owns shortcomings. They seek to destroy the world because they can not be its king or queen. I'll make it short, but have you noticed how a lot of mainstream beauty have been reduced to essentially fetish type things and that traditionally attractive people, outside of very specific circumstances of course, have been shunned and cast aside? Also a lot of the males especially are usually unironically castrated, there's been a clip recently going around of someone by the name of Atun-shei essentially admitting he's a spiteful mutant.
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>>534896978

The Alexandrian Greeks were definitely Celtic.
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>>534896746
The delusion of moral superiority is what defines leftists the most. Combined with their collective mindset that outright hates dissent, a leftist's replies almost always lack any form of intellectuality.

Instead of containing logic, arguments, rationality, a Ieftist's replies are almost never more than a series insults aimed at someone's intelligence.

I have begun to refer to them as "animals" because interacting with them is like interacting with macaques.
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>>534901683
Nice fanfiction
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>>534901496
>>534901790
Humans are a religiously minded species period. Belief in a higher being does not make a religion. Faith and dogma do. The form is takes is irrelevant. Politics is a religion.
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>>534902251
The form it* takes
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>>534902251
I should've worded myself better, i'm not saying humans aren't religious, far from, i'm simply saying this hyperzealous neo-religion is something not really seen before in the history of humanity i'd argue. Religion isn't inherently bad, it's just that this very specific one probably isn't beneficial for the west. The abolition of the church has done irreparable damage to the west.

I don't know if i'd say politics "is" religion, there's a lot of overlaps of course, but i wouldn't say they're identical.
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>>534902251
Yes.
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>>534901790
>Instead of containing logic, arguments, rationality, a Ieftist's replies are almost never more than a series insults aimed at someone's intelligence
as i argued in my other reply, i think this is because leftists to an extent know they're wrong, but don't want to admit it to themselves. They're spiteful mutants who've taken upon themselves the priesthood of ultra-luxury-gay-space-communism to destroy the west and all whites as they see whites as the great satan.

They're on a moral and emotional crusade to wipe out europeans as a people and culture for the crime of progress as they inherently know they couldn't have achieved progress without them. They would rather want global zimbabwe than a prosperous rhodesia.
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>>534901496
Another way of looking at it is reaching opinions by conclusion vs reaching them by osmosis
Active, defending civilisation, hero archetype: look at reality and conclude a solution to protect what you hold dear
Vs
Reactive, wanting to change the status quo, corruption archetype: unhappy with reality you latch on to what other people say if believing it makes you happier

>unlike the chud, the leftist/libtard hates himself and thus the world for his or her owns shortcomings.
Yep, notice that chuds laugh at the term because they're ok with what they are. People for fat acceptance or trannies get fucking rabid when you point out what they are or the situation they're in
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>>534896658
You're asking the board full of self proclaimed antisemites who voted for the most pro-israel president in American history about logic?

Glass houses, my dude.
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>>534902519
>People get addicted to feeling offended because it gives them a high—that sense of moral superiority, even if caused by anger, secretly feels

Does it ostracize? Does it isolate? It’s a fucking cult, anon. No different from the scientific community (they did a poll and half of the scientific base couldn’t even tell you what a woman is). Say something about race and IQ and you’re labelled the equivalent of a witch or heretic.

“This year we aren’t going to grandpa and grandmas because grandpa voted orange and grandma refused to divorce him for it”.

Dropping contact with relatives is a red flag of a cult mentality.
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Passion is truth. Logic is folly. Emotion and intuition are superior modes of thought for making value judgements. Logic leads to stagnation, death, and degeneration or the admission of pure evil. There is no other way for life to exist. A logical people obligate themselves to go extinct or become maximally aggressive or self serving. It is a natural and unavoidable dichotomy.
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>>534896746
>emotions
As leverage for calculated manipulation. Words as weapons.

They know that they gain an advantage and easily avoid consequences if you regard them as misguided emotionally swayed people.
Start reading them as fully conscious monsters.
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>>534896658
>new york has always been a melting pot
Wow. Just wow. Fucking genius here.
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>>534896658
Why can't we have white fictional characters?
Why can't we have consistency of a fictional populace?
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>>534902733
It's all a game of authority
When you're stronger you appeal to merit, when you're in a weaker position you appeal to morals.
Leftists see themselves as weak and construct their own fake morals that place them at the top.
Leftism is at the root an attempt of a weaker person to obtain power by shaping morals around himself
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Women and the feminine archetype evolved to use words as weapons since they can't use muscles. For them debate is a war zone, and shaping it to their will is to fight. Whether what they say is real or not has never crossed their minds.
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>>534903249
It has been a melting pot of various WHITE cultures and peoples before BROWNS came in like a tidal wave of shit. So yes, “melting pot”. Only the immigrants (whites…) that made things better for everyone for replaced by immigrants (browns…) that made things worse for everyone.

A melting pot doesn’t necessarily mean a bunch of shit skins. Immigration was only ever good when while people did it. Fuck.

WHITE people and WHITE immigrants built the modern world.
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>>534904146
got* replaced
Immigration was only ever good when white* people did it

You know I’m right too.
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>>534903724
This is all a result of ww1 and ww2 depleting white civilization of the staunchest masculine archetypes. All the men lost for nothing and the most courageous first. After ww1 there was a continent-wide rebellion of the masculine archetype dissatisfied with being used by the greater powers, and for the second time it was crushed.
The deaths of the world wars left a power vacuum that was filled by the feminine, this is probably the cycle civilisations go through every 100/200 years
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>>534904146
New York City has never been a melting pot. Even among early whites there were ethnic neighborhoods like there is today. Little Italy and Chinatown still exists after more than a 100 years.
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>>534904582
Now that I think about it, the good times/ bad times cycle teory doesn't really give the full picture, it's more that the will of a people is manifested through the masculine, it is eventually depleted in war, and it takes time for it to build up again
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>>534904756
>New York City has never been a melting pot
By your notion of the word, maybe. Lmao. New York was a melting pot of EUROPEANS before it became SHIT. It’s as simple as that. English, Scottish, Irish, German, French, Jews, and many Eastern Europeans. It was a melting pot without all the diarrhea.

New York was founded by the Dutch btw.
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>>534902761
>Yep, notice that chuds laugh at the term because they're ok with what they are. People for fat acceptance or trannies get fucking rabid when you point out what they are or the situation they're in
i think this is a much more important distinction than people might let on to believe. The Chud knows where he is, what he is and who he is and is at peace with that. He knows what he can and can't obtain and what would be good and right for him and his community. Even though reality might be painful, he still acknowledges it as reality and seeks to survive and live with it instead of deluding himself to live in ignorance. The tranny and the fat acceptance people in contrast does not seek to live in reality, they seek affirmation that their delusions are reality. I would not even be surprised if there might be underlying biological elements in this as so many of them are either females or trannies wishing to be female and thus mimicking them. Case in point, the extreme amount of new mental-health speak today. Self-care, self-love, yada-yada and so on.

>>534902907
i do agree that it is indeed a cult if at least not cult-like, but that's exactly what i'd say makes it religious instead of merely political. It is a set of values and dogmas, self-contradictory ones at that, that they can not break or bend if they wish to maintain their membership within the cult. I'm not saying it's not political or they're not pushing a very obvious political agenda, they are, it's just the way their thought-structure works, seems at least to me, to be more cultish and religious than simply ideological.

>>534903397
Exactly, best example of this is comparing the previous government to now. When Biden sat "the constitution was an outdated document and the founding fathers were old white men"; while now whenever trump does anything they screech "MUH CONSTITUTION!!!" I do think the smart ones know exactly what they're doing, but the lower iq ones have simply been brainwashed.
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>>534904987
>Dutch
One of Humanity's HISTORICAL enemies... and one of the targets for cleansing.
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>>534906537
spoken like a true brit
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>>534905592
I feel like politics will always involve faith and dogma. People put faith in capitalism and indeed everything else. They always listen to their elders. Consider the whole cannabis panic. Was it any worse than beer or cigarettes? Of course not. They still saw it as the Devil. They did not stop and think “hey wait a minute… it’s just a plant… like tobacco…”, or bother to learn the history of hemp and why it became illegal in the first place.

Humans are frighteningly gullible and naive and complacent. That’s church for you.
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>>534904987
Germans, Irish, and Jews lived in separate neighborhoods. Again it was not a melting pot. They spoke their euro language at home and went to church that spoke their language. Jews still have their own enclaves.
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>>534906651
>I feel like politics will always involve faith and dogma
I think it always has and always will be, it's just that the west has abandoned Christianity as its religion and subsects of the west, especially academia and the new left, has adopted what i'd call something akin to a secular neo-religion. Politics one could argue is the matter of the state, in a nation-state that then turns to the matters of the people, politics are inherently intertwined then with the nation and its people. Thus the politics that develops in that light usually have a shared cultural, ethnic and, for the context of this conversation, religious identity. I am not personally religious, but i can't say it wasn't the christian church that underpinned most of european politics up until the 19th and 20th century, when attempts to reform the religious basis of europe was attempted until both the marxist-leninist and national socialist and fascist neo-religions were abolished in favor of essentially nihilistic consumerism.

Just because one abolishes the church does not mean that the psychological functions and underpinnings it fulfilled simply goes away, what has happened is that worse mimics have taken its place.
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>>534899657
And helen was greek. That's kinda the whole reason there was a war.
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>>534906970
>Germans, Irish, and Jews lived in separate neighborhoods
Cool. Non whites and rich white folk do this too.
>Again it was not a melting pot
It absolutely was a melting pot. It just wasn’t a melting pot of shit. You’re basically saying the sky isn’t your preferred shade of blue. If you have several different cultures intermingling, it’s a melting pot. Rome was a fucking melting pot.

A Jew did not invent melting pots. It has been observed throughout history.
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>>534907086
There is no point in arguing about this but Le Bon (militant atheist and president of the Christianity/Jesus hater club) describes it the best in “The Crowd” if you want to learn more.

In post revolutionary France they had a similar thing going on. Western culture isn’t built on Christianity fundamentally, Christianity is an outward expression of what Western culture IS. It’s soul.

You can change the names of the saints and the names of the unknowable deity and the rules/taboos, but generally speaking it’s roughly going to remain the same, follow the same grooves.

Again, and for emphasis, it’s important to realize that the West isn’t “built” on Christianity as le “cultural Christians” claim, it isn’t “foundational”, it’s quite the opposite relationship- the determining factor is the subconscious set of beliefs, biases, heuristics, thought patterns, prejudices. etc etc.

This is what actually matters, and that which, so long as “The West” exists, will always bring about Christianity in some form or other, regardless of what we call it.

Even atheist scientists are taking religious positions when they claim that humans are le special and exempt from physics regarding the observation effect. Pic partially related.
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>>534907339
Although I should still correct myself a bit and point out that Christianity was the best form this European mindset took. It’s definitely foundational or fundamental in that sense. The shape the psyche takes still matters. I’m just not convinced that nothing else would have taken up its position had it failed to do so. Similar to how the Chinese didn’t need fucking socialism to unite themselves again. It would have happened regardless.
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>>534898948
You clearly misunderstand what they mean by melting pot. What we have today is not a melting pot. A melting pot implies someone will come in and assimilate while bringing bits of their own culture in. What we have today isn't anything like that. People keep their entire culture from where they came from wholesale, set up little enclaves and make little parts of america into little mexicos et al. Our country would be a lot better off if it actually was a melting pot.
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>>534904582
This needs to be said again for all of the retards who think that war improves society in any way. It's the most dysgenic and socially corrosive force that exists.
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>>534907339
Pretty sure i've heard of the book before, but i do agree with you; although i don't think christianity is entirely unneeded/cosmetic for lack of better terms. Now i think we both agree that what defines christianity from islam and such is that it is european, no? Europe isn't Christian so much as Christianity is European. The problem i do think has arisen is that with the casting aside of christianity as our religion, we have essentially not replaced it with anything better or anything even as good. I do agree that a people's religion is a reflection of them and not vice versa, but then removing that religion for another also then changes the people.

Since then christianity has been abandoned, many that would've been devout christians are now followers of this neo-religion. The one that deifies browns and women, even though they can't define it. Their base morals might be "christian" or white at their base, but since they haven't had that framework to refine and guide their morals into, they've adopted the even looser framework of modern leftism.
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They have this thing called empathy, don't worry tho Palantir & co are working on it
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>>534904146
Do you even know who Israel Zangwill is?
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>>534908200
>although i don't think christianity is entirely unneeded/cosmetic for lack of better terms
I retracted myself here >>534907634

Christianity was vital in structure, I’m just convinced that the underlying essence of it is inseparable from the white race. The Chinese have their own essence, etc.

Essence might not be the best word, but you probably understand my point.
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>>534896658
this shit is just retarded distraction
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>>534908887
Whites used to be inseparable from Odin. Perhaps that never changed and the values are just called Christianity now. Or Christianity is as separable as Odin was.
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>>534908887
Yes i agree more or less, since you're mentioning the chinese, it's very interesting because they don't really have the same form of "spiritual" or "superstitious" religion that we or others usually have had, although their moral philosophies have usually been tied to the state, you know the whole mandate of heaven stuff,

>>534908887
>>534909006
>Christianity was vital in structure, I’m just convinced that the underlying essence of it is inseparable from the white race
>Whites used to be inseparable from Odin. Perhaps that never changed and the values are just called Christianity now
i think both of these are correct. The underlying values, psychological and biological conditions are the same, but the medium of expressing it to ourselves and our communities have changed through time. Pretty sure the vikings even kept up a lot of their traditions even after their conversion to christianity.
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>>534905592
>seeks to survive and live with it instead of deluding himself to live in ignorance
Yep
It's a weird reaction, both sides are unsuccesful in their lives, yet one seeks truth and the other fantasy
Either a person will fall into the chud/tranny category based on how his life has played out so far (or based on testosterone?), or it depends on their dna/brain.
Considering it's often nature rather than nurture the determining factor, I guess it's the latter. A study on twins would be interesting.
Could even be a countryside/"lone wolf" vs city/"company lover" genetics divide
If you like living with the masses, your failure will be perceived by you as your inadequacy
If you're introverted / prefer dealing with things yourself, a supposed social failure is perceived by you as just the world going to shit rather than you yourself
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>>534909359
It’s more or less basic causal logic. The state of mind matters so much before the actual expression begins. One precedes the other. But, of course, many deny how important the biology of the mind is.

This is why it’s never surprising when an Arab Christian (Christian not Muslim) kills his daughter for “shaming” him. Whether Muslim or Christian an Arab is just more prone to emotional outbursts of the most irrational (to kill your own spawn is pretty pathetic) kind.
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>>534901790
capitalist white pig, release the epstein files if you're so smart
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>>534909359
Not to mention many "God" statues are just the roman "Giove"/Jupiter statues renamed, christian holidays are just roman pagan holidays, christian churches were just refurbished roman pagan temples etc.
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>>534896658
because logic is formalized reason, and reason is a gift from God to man, by which the latter may comprehend the former's great works and seek truth. Leftists, meanwhile, are AIDS-ridden meat-bots piloted by demons, for whom the works of God are both alien and anathema. demons can no more use it than man can walk unaided on a lightning bolt.
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>>534907812
Are you denying the term was coined by a jew obsessed with belittling whites by admixture?
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>>534909359
And I guess protestantism was a way for norse paganism to express itself, separating itself from a christianity derivative of roman paganism. Paganism just being the manifestation of the peoples' soul
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>>534900015
Teachers are leftoids.
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>>534900408
>No Democrats were friends with Epstein
Lmao



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