How is it even possible that people have ever taken mormonism seriously?>based entirely on one grifter supposedly finding impossible golden plates that no one else ever saw because they conveniently vanished>profoundly freemasonic and practices much of the masonic ritual, even down to the masonic L V (square and compass) undergarment with a mark on one leg and on navel denoting the single lifted pantleg and bared chest of initiatory masonic ritual>writings literally just copy the kjv's early 17th century vernacular and grammar exactly>writings carry over all of kjv's mistranslations and insertions, actually further bastardizes them in many cases>zion is in utah now>you literally become a god/a new Jesus and can create your own worlds and redeem them in the afterlifeLike what the fuck, this is only just barely scratching the surface of everything wrong with it. You have to be a complete moron to not see how satanic this entire cult is and yet it somehow grew into an actual religion with millions of followers. How did this even happen? Are Americans really just that retarded?
American Islam
>>534899394Its bullshit, but its unapologetically white.They and the Amish are the only white groups in the US with higher than replacement birth rates.All religions are bullshit anyway, what matters is the community building and few religions do it as well as the mormons.
>>534899394I tried reading itI only made it halfway throughIts a tough book to make it throughMark Twain called it chloroform in print
>>534899394Ummm actually Zion is in Missouri but whatever.
>>534899674(Non-spic) White TLM-goers are estimated to have a birthrate of like 3.6. They're a smaller subset obviously but still.
>>534899394Life was just more fun and exciting and full of plausible bullshit back then. The best Mormons are sincere enough that God will eventually straighten them out.
You really only need the tail of a bell curve to start a movement, and after that some will join in preference to being alone.
>>534899932I suppose I'm ascribing the gift of hindsight to uneducated prairie hicks from the 19th and early 20th century who had no idea just how profoundly occult and masonic this "religion"'s origins actually were. I just wish someone had actually told them about it.
>>534899394>based entirely on one grifter supposedly finding impossible golden plates that no one else ever sawSo just like the bible, quaran, and the talmud
>>534900108>So just like the bibleNo>quaranYes>talmudNo, it's literally just the written oral tradition of scheming pharisaic kikes.
>>534899394Mormons believe that in 1978 God suddenly changed his mind about black people
>>534900109You can pretend not to understand picrel all you want, all you'll ever do is make yourself look retarded and disingenuous
>>534900253Kinda like catholics are with gays
>>534899394Pretty sure for a few decades it was a means of living around white people that provided some protection from the racial grievance industry and proto-woke, Communist bureaucrats in our government.
>>534899394>You have to be a complete moron to not see how satanic this entire cult is and yet it somehow grew into an actual religion with millions of followers. How did this even happen? Are Americans really just that retarded?In this post we find acute self awarenessWanting
>>534900301Catholics haven't actually changed their mind on anything, they've just been working to reduce the neurotic hatred of fags and trannies, because hating these lost souls is rejecting the infinite and miraculous redemptive power of Christ. There's been a shift in approach, not dogma; those with same sex attraction are still called to a life of celibacy if they cannot realistically trust themselves to change and enter into marriage with the opposite sex in good faith. It's just trying to bridge the gap with a heavily estranged and historically brutalized group of people.
>>534899674>its unapologetically whiteNo. Maybe in the 1980s but they're at a point now where they'd import infinite shitskins if it bolstered their organization.
>>534900292The truth is simpler than this inherently Jewish concept.
>>534899394Like all cults, harem.Everyone imagines himself as the guy with 3 wives, not the guy that's basically a slave until being kicked out into the desert to fuck off and die.Since it's not that demanding and the US forced it into ending its most self destructive doctrine, it's moderated into basically American Islam capable of running a modern state.
>>534900490Sounds like brown homo cope.
>>534900396Most other religions aren't predicated entirely upon "guys I totally found these impossibly small gold plates with ovar nein billion words in hebrew on them because the twelve tribes was in america n shit but you can't see them because an angel took them back but it was real trust me bro, i wrote it all down in these texts that read exactly like the protestant kjv bible and which contain all of the same errors and later insertions as kjv". Of all cults mormonism's origin story truly stands out as something else.
>>534900636It's the truth, take it or leave it. To hate and condemn without even giving someone a chance is to flagrantly reject Christ's infinite redemptive power.
>>534900490>they've just been working to reduce the neurotic hatred of fags and tranniesGod calls it an abominationNow go and look up what that word means
>>534899394are you an atheist? Because if not this post is pretty funny
>>534900777>God calls it an abominationwhen and where god said that? inb4 im not asking what is written in some book
>>534899394>How is it even possible that people have ever taken mormonism seriously?Money.And before that polygamy...
>>534899674they are top goyim, some of the worst and most putrid golem on the planet
>>534900777You don't seem to be grasping that Catholics still assert that SSA/trooning out is sinful, contra naturam, and "intrinsically disordered", and that one is in a state of perpetual grave sin so long as they continue acting on their SSA. You're probably referring specifically to the Levitical prohibition for the priesthood specifically which was extremely grave. The only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Being a fag isn't unforgivable, far from it, and we are called to reveal their sin to them so they can be reborn in the image of Christ, not murder them. Christ supercedes Levitical priesthood purity law.
>>534899394They are alternative interpretation of history pilled unlike every other major Christian denomination
>>534899394It's just a protestant stuff with extra steps
>>534901911Also same sex attraction /thoughts/ are not sinful on their own, acting on them is. This is why one can be SSAd but still free of sin by remaining celibate. It is the duty of a SSAd individual to recognize where these thoughts and feelings come from and that acting on them is grave sin, but the individual is to be treated with dignity and compassion. Again, to do otherwise is to reject Christ's redemptive power, to say "Jesus can't save you", which goes beyond heresy into outright blasphemy. You don't gain anything by preaching the gospel to the converted, we're commanded to go out into the world and make disciples of all.
L Ron Hubbard saw how easy it was and how rich it could make you starting your own religion after looking at the Mormon scam ... now both "churches" own hundreds of billion$ in real estate
>>534903698And Joe Smith saw the Islam scam and realized he could make a white American version of Islam.
>>534899394We literally have golden plates that disappear when the wrong person looks at them. They're called phones with facial recognition and a nice sleeve.The unique thing about LDS is that its a lay-ministry. With all the benefits and bullshit that comes with it. One of the only christian gatherings you'll find that openly encourages every member to learn and discern on their own.
>people have problem with this but some retard picking up the bible and making the baptist church number 9000 is heckin validim mean mormons at least God gave them the right to preach unlike most other christian denominations
>>534899394Religion is a tool to build and maintain social cohesion. Mormonism has accomplished that even without the whole harem thing that was the main draw
all religions up until mormonism were totally realistic
>>534902226not at allmormonism is heretical to orthodox christianity: while greek orthodox, roman catholic and protestant christianity all affirm the Deity of Christ: One Person with Two Natures: Fully God and fully man. the false religions like mormons, and jehovah's witness and islam say that Jesus Christ is not fully God but rather call him a temporal created being.
>>534899394It’s basically the same shit as Scientology. Made up nonsense from a schizo
>>534899394Anon there is neo-mormonism happening right fucking now.
>>534899394how do you take religion seriously?
>>534899394>How is it even possible that people have ever taken religion seriously?FTFY
>>534905277Jesus comes from the planet Kolob.This is what Mormons actually believe
>>534905583>>534905606I used to be militantly anti-theist from the time I was 9 years old until I was 24. Today I ask myself the opposite question, how it was ever possible that I /didn't/ believe in God. Being dispossessed of your own eternity is unspeakably tragic and in truth no man in this state can be trusted. All you have to do is genuinely approach God and ask Him to help you open your heart to Him, and it will happen. Knock and the door will be opened, "I believe, help my unbelief", etc.Eucharistic miracles and the impossible connections across thousands of years between the OT and NT might interest you. Eventually you reach a point where it becomes impossible not to believe anymore. Many times it isn't even voluntary, you fight God until you go kicking and screaming unable to deny Him any longer as the weight of the mountain of evidence and your own private experiential reality comes crashing down through the roof on top of your secularism.
>>534905606Cultists religions expose the hollowness of it all. Stuff like the JWs and FLDS make it very obvious, mainstream Mormons less so.
>>534905948im good bud
Good point
>>534899394Gay and stupid cult
>>534900292fuck off kike
>>534899394>zion is in utah now>you literally become a god/a new Jesus and can create your own worlds and redeem them in the afterlifethis is actually the cool part.
>>534899674>They and the Amish are the only white groups in the US with higher than replacement birth rates.The Amish actually practice Christianity and were not founded by a poon-hound out to steal other people's wives.
>>534899674This anon>>534900533is right. We had our big semiannual meeting a month ago. There were so many nonwhite speakers it sickened me. But that's how it has been for years. Maybe April's speakers were already lined up by the time the new church leader took his position, but I have no doubt the global LDS church is all about dewhitening. Still, your local ward may be the white haven you're looking for.
>>534906511God is always going to be there waiting for you with open arms whenever you decide to come home brother.
>>534900253God decided that taxation of his most holy assets wasn't worth the price of ideological purity.
>>534899394People are retarded enough to believe any religion instead of just turning to philosophy so I guess it doesn't matter how insane a religion is there's always retards to follow them. In a retard-free world we'd all be neo-platonists, deists, analytical idealists, etc. and have philosophy clubs instead of mosques, churches, temples, etc.
and religion also full of creepy ass people like this guy >>534909112
>>534899394>golden plates, urim, and thummim have all been verified as record keeping mechanisms used by native americansjoseph smith was a real prophet. true history of the americas that catholics tried to suppress by destroying all of the records. god wins.
>>534900109trinity in the old testament - https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-A- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CBh8lmgecs
>>534910130Wishing for God to help reveal Himself to someone and grant them divine peace and stillness isn't creepy, you have to just be deprived of platonic affection to interpret it that way. It doesn't surprise me at all with how neurotic and combative our societies are today.
>>534910925>he thinks I wasnt brainwashed as a childi know all the tricks bud
>>534911029My heart goes out to you for that being your experience. I was raised in an incredibly abusive evangelical home with insanely bad theology and exegesis and that abuse still affects me in certain ways to this day. It among other things was what caused me to become so militantly anti-theist (not just atheist) in the first place, primarily out of no one being able to actually, adequately answer the questions that were disturbing me so much. I got the whole "don't question God" and being beaten for doing so nine yards instead of any sort of apologetic whatsoever. You have to separate God from the people telling you about Him. If you seek out God in your own heart you'll have a much different experience.
>>534911224is it something in the crackers or in the shitty box wine they give you that makes you this stupid?
>>534900108thisit's only about as retarded as all other religions
>>534912066I realize nothing I can say to you theologically will make a difference, so I'll just leave you with the advice that you should try to figure out where your hatred is coming from since all I've done so far is say I hope God gives you peace. You'll be in my prayers and I mean that genuinely, not condescendingly.