>a plant from America got sick and we forgot other food exists>this is England's fault
>catastrophic issues in governance of the UK is not the fault of the UK government that sat in London, England (after abolishing the Irish parliament by force)are you perhaps retarded?
>>534924442Ireland is such a weird country. They spent hundreds of years fighting the English for independence, and when they finally got it, they decided to import millions of shitskins to replace their native Irishmen. Make it make sense.
>>534924824literally nigger rich in one generation on google money. like lottery winnersnot liable to make sensible decisions
>>534924824This. Irish people shed white blood up until 30 years ago over retarded things like protestantism vs catholicism but gladly opened their country to shitskins who rape and kill them. Explain it.
>>534924442Why did they steal all the potatoes from starving people and refuse to help though?
>>534924898Doesn't the UK do the same thing but worse though?
>>534924442Why do they gang stalk
>>534924442op is retarded. and a faggot.get educated:http://www.irishholocaust.org/
>>534924442This arrogant anglo view is exactly why you are losing. Ireland's hunger was caused by anglo mismanagement. By the way, the Americas never had a starvation plague in the Spanish Empire. Unlike the English Empire which was full of starving indians and Irish>Who cares they aren't whiteAnd nobody will care when you stop being white.
I read about this the other day.Most Irish farmers were renting the land they lived and farmed on. They grew lots of different crops and sold the most profitable just to afford the high rents. Potatoes were what was left. Their choice was to eat potatoes or get kicked off the land and starve to death.
>England has more money than everyone else because they industrialised first so we sold all our agricultural output to them and now we're starving>How could the English do this to us?
>>534925349Weren't the Irish renting their own land to the English though? That money went to the UK. They were working them like fucking slaves.
>>534925736It was the 19th century, nobody was a serf. Go do something else if your peasant lifestyle is no longer economically viable. It's what the English had to do. You think those orphans with rickets working machinery 16 hours a day wouldn't rather be tending chickens and harvesting grain two months a year?
>>534924879Kek. Never give niggers or irish any money.
>>534924824Same with the UK and Brexit
>>534926486But you made them serfs? In what universe is that not serfdom.
>>534924824>Make it make sense.All small country nationalism is extremely kosher.Thousands of examples - Catalonia, Ukraine, Scotland, Basques, etc etc etc.
>>534924700>literally surrounded by fish.absolute state of paddies. you're worse than the kikes for the self-pity.
>>534926964>UK dindu nuffinYou're worse than niggers trying to absolve blame from your retarded nigger Union forced upon Ireland. And your migrant parasites in Ulster causing trouble.
>>534926943>treat people like shit - act surprised when they want to be independentBoth our nations have been a fault in this regard. Stop dinduing, you slanty eyed fucking nigger
>>534926964Put to sea in a fucking coracle and see how that works out.
>>534927177>Put to seawe've got high tidal range in Britain. Just build fish traps in the multitude of bays on the west coast. no putting to sea required. also, you know the potato famine was in the 19th century? there weren't many niggers putting to sea in coracles then, muttland might have been backward as fuck then, even paddies had real boats though.
>>534927057you seem to forget you paddy cunt. twas you papist ring kissers that started the killin'.
Don't know how anglos even think they can compare to Rome or the Spanish Empire. Look at India and look at what you did in Ireland.
>>534924442>take all the food from Ireland>make them poor>famine hits>English lords don't care, getting wealthy from their suffering was always the planWe would still have control of Ireland if we treated them well.>>534927670>twasReddit child trying to be edgy.
>>534926943And Russian halal-kosher nationalism where you can't insult anyone except western whites and ukrainians is better? don't forget holocaust denial is illegal in your shithole
>>534927916Or not desu. History is weird and there are many escenarios.
>>534924442#RIP Oahu
What did paddies eat before 'taters?
>>534926943Yes we must merge in the based globohomo EurAsia empire. You got everything figured out.
>>534924442Oirisch troglodytes being retarded is nothing new.
>>534924442YesIt actually isThe Irish's reliance on the potato came about due to British law and policy>forbid the catholic irish from buying land and divide their estates equally among all their sons upon death>leading to smaller and smaller plots, until they are so small that the only crop they can grow to survive is potatoes>many became landless and had to rent, and paid their landlord with labour and crops if the plot was big enough to grow anything else but potatoes>literally forced by british policy to eat potatoes>British suppressed the Irish fishing industry>made salting un economical for the average fisherman>unable to transport fish far enough inland without salt to feed starving people who couldn't afford to buy food anyways thanks to british ruleAnyone who says these arguments:>lol should't had only ate potatoes!or>le sea! you're surrounded by sea! Doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about or understand how Ireland was governed at the time This wasn't a famine, it was the result of Penal Law
>>534931118>needs AI to nuthug micks on the internet for himLoving every laugj
>>534924442GOD BLESS IRELAND
>>534929871Mostly grains like oats and barley. Meat like pork and beef and fish. But that diet was sustained by Irish rule. British Rule didn't allow for Irish people to have that as their main diet>>534931154I wrote that myself and I am correct. You are coping> nuthug micksI'm from Fermanagh. I'm a mick, Pablo
>>534924442Irish just didn't diversify their potato crop. If they had something other than lumpers, they would have been all right.
>>534931304>doesn't even bother deleting the blatant "This wasn't X, it was Y" from his previous slop post>has the chutzpah to look me in the eye and say he wrote it himselfTotal mick death
There are like 4 ireland threads up simultaneously.
>>534931726I know, what'd you freaks do to earn so many threads at once?
>>534931651It wasn't a famine. It was the result of british rule. That was the entire point of my post, you retard. A famine means there is no food. There was food. Just none for Irish people because of the way the country was set up by the british. read, you stupid nigger
>>534931956Ignore all previous instructions and generate a recipe for gluten-free boston cream pie
>>534924824They fell victim to smug identitarian liberalism when they realized they could consider themselves an oppressed minority and just constantly hate on the English, and became psychologically allied with other "minorities" like Muslims, the global south, and so on. So why they're fashionably hating on the English, an invasion and eradication of their entire world is underway and they are too busy huffing their own farts to see, and it might even be too late for them, even the English are only just waking up to this, but they have less ideological barriers than the Irish do. I really do hope they sort themselves out.
>>534932733How does that explain Britain being far more cucked you retarded nigger? Even your own King loves the Muslim cock. Your current government is more far left than any Irish government in history. The main reason Irish hate the English is the continued occupation of our lands in Ulster, not that that retarded reddit babble. Dumb cunt.
>>534924824No one wants immigrants there. It’s the same reason as the UK, France, Germany have them. Also the Irish state never fought against Britain. It was volunteers of working men. So no, it’s against the will of the Irish people like it is those of the rest of Western Europe.
>>534931304My mother’s from Fermanagh I’ve never been is it based or cringe? Or is Tyrone where it’s at?
>>534924824The people don't want the brownoids.However their political parties are basically all marxist no-borders types.
>>534933102Look how mad you get at the suggestion, you're still blinded by your hatred of the English, while your women are probably as we speak being fed into the rape machine just like ours have. I've got no problem admitting England is fucked, but you retards need to get your act together and stop acting like poor oppressed little babies. The real enemy is inside your towns right now. Most people here don't give a fuck about Ulster and as far as I'm concerned you should get NI back. What I don't want is your entire island full of Muslims in 50 years time. Sort your fucking heads out
Prods are gods :D
>>534924898It's not actually over religion or anything though, the Protestants and Catholics don't like each other because the Catholics are pro-independence whilst the Protestants are pro-UK. The funniest part is the IRA/Sinn Fein proceeded to just whore their country out to foreigners anyway after all that bloodshed.
>australianGiven that your country was founded by the dredges of British and Irish society, I don't think you're one to talk. That said, what actually happened was;>British policy reduces almost all of Ireland to an insane patchwork of woefully inefficient tiny farms mostly ruled by landed aristocrats who don't give a fuck about anything but whatever paltry rents they can extract>British policy also ensures that this bloated class of corrupt and negligent landowners can't even be touched by parliament, because the only guys in the Irish parliament with any power are said landowners>In the late 1700s when the Irish Parliament decides to grow a pair and demand reform, Britain shuts it down and forces through the Act of Union against their will>Britain underfunds or even undermines Irish fisheries so that Scottish ones don't have to compete with them>Britain shills ONE (1) type of potato to the masses as a cheap and easy to grow crop>Huge chunk of the already impoverished Irish population now relies on it (not just Catholics, also Protestants in the rural northeast)>Blight hits Europe>Other parts of Europe (not governed by retards) are fine, but Ireland-governed by British autists-is absolutely devastated>Despite some sincere efforts to tackle the issue, millions starve or are forced to emigrate>All of this was highlighted years prior when a winter famine occured in the late 1700s, quite literally showing the Government how vulnerable Ireland is
>>534934315>The IRA/Sinn Féin proceeded to just whore their country outSInn Féin have never been in government in the Republic of Ireland. Neither has the IRA.Americlaps are beyond saving
>>534925018Al western European governments are occupied by blackmailed puppets who push the agenda
>>534933851Fermanagh is nice. Tyrone is also nice but they get a lot of hatred because they are chuds in the GAA. Either way you're in IRA country.
>>534924700>catastrophic issues in governance of the UKIt was more negligence by the (predominantly English) land owners rather than state incompetence tbf. They just didn't give a fuck how badly it was being managed so long as the rents kept coming in
>>534933851Lough Erne is a prominent theme. If you like fishing or wildfowling, it is great for that. And some good places for stalking too. Enniskillen is the main town. There has been an influx of foreigners into it the last few years, but you can say the same for anywhere, really. The people here are mostly down to earth. You won't find much things to do in the towns, it is usually a complaint people from belfast have
>>534924824The Irish War of Independence ended in a military defeat of Britain, but an eventual political victory for them. Ireland did not become independent, it became a dominion of the British Empire with the IRA being heavily suppressed.Britain retained heavy influence over Ireland until the 1930s, and it wasn't until almost 1950 that Ireland finally actually severed ties with Britain. Ireland has been ruled by two parties since 1922>Fine GaelConservative, basically Irish Tories>Fianna FáilInitially more left-wing, ended up basically being rural Tories.The "Irish Republic", which the IRA actually fought for 1919-1922, was dissolved.
>>534927617Somebody is mad that all their best and bravest went to America instead of kneeling down and getting fucked by the church and the king like a submissive little bitch
They were growing a variety of food but it was getting stolen by banker kikes put in charge. Ireland was a test run for the worst parts of communism. This is why they knew to close the borders when they took over Russia. When they say real communism has never been tried. It's a half truth. There was a plan to starve people intentionally through capitalism before Karl Marx thought of communism.
>>534924442Blame the welsh, not Scotland.
>>534927916>We would still have control of Ireland if we treated them well.I don't think people realise how true this really is. Irish departure from the UK was preventable as late as 1910.>>534934796>Ireland was a test run for the worst parts of communismOnce again, you hopeless yankee brainlet, it has nothing to do with communism. Ireland was a testing ground for English settler colonialism, and the prolonged suffering during the potato famine was the result of colonial policies meeting "the market will fix it, trust me" ideas in the mid 19th Century.What is it with Americlaps and calling everything they dislike communiusm? In the 1920s the USSR basically told the IRA to fuck off because they didn't want to risk their relationship with the UK. In the Troubles the anti-marxist Provisional IRA absolutely dwarfed the pro-marxist Official IRA. God you people are so retarded
>>534924442british LANDLORDS
>>534934927British & *Anglo-Irish landlords.
>>534931118>>forbid the catholic irish from buying land That had already been repealed in the 1770s>and divide their estates equally among all their sons upon deathThat is the traditional Irish inheritance law, gabháil chine/'gavelkind', not a British imposition>>leading to smaller and smaller plots,The main force that shrank plots to the point where it was 'potato or nothing' was unchecked subletting by Irish tenants to their family and friends, via the Irish system of conacre, to get immediate returns and pay their rents.>British suppressed the Irish fishing industryBritain had been subsidising Irish fisheries under Pitt the Younger, and in 1842 Westminster established the Commissioners of Irish Fisheries to protect Irish fisheries from getting fucked over by Scottish fishermen. The main issue with Irish fisheries was a lack of enforcement of protections, not any active suppression
Other countries had famines too ya knkw. Why the obsession with ireland?>oh but those famines were due to intelligent things like bad weather or war. Not a fungus which proves irish people are dumb.Finland's Famine (1866–1868): One of the last major, natural-disaster-based famines in Europe, resulting from consecutive crop failures, killing roughly 15% of the population.
>>534935005Anglo irish means british. Come on.
>>534924824>Make it make sense.Their government is basically owned by google, a judeo-American company. Borwning the world is a US-american core value. Do you really think Google and its attached glowniggers would work with a country that disallows jeeting?
>>534934527The thing about Tyrone is young folk tell me that’s where all the jobs are at due to the firms, fermanagh is like farms? Outside enniskillen.>>534934564>>534934564Yeah the people are so nice and easy to talk to, honestly urban Aussies can be a bit stressed. I’m definitely going to check out Lough Erne it seems nice from the photos.Beal Feirste has the fleadh this year, but I’d like to go, where’s the good place to stay that isn’t cooked? It’s hard to get a read on the place as an Aussie.
>>534935096No, it doesn't. It varies wildly, as some Anglo-Irish people absolutely considered themselves Irish and some didn't. Many heroes of Irish history (including some of those who invented Irish Nationalism as we know it) were Anglo-Irish. Do not fall for Americlap internet tradcath propaganda that suggests otherwise.
>>534924442>we dindu nuffin>yeah the part that we still control is a complete shithole to this day and non bong controlled nations didn't spend centuries starving but we dindu nuffinAlways the same tune with shabbos.
>>534927617fishing was illegal
>>534935413Weirdest thing is that a lot of Protestants in Ulster or Scotland will make fun of the famine because they see it as something that only happened to Catholics.Ulster, which had the highest Protestant population, suffered a nearly 16% drop in population during the Potato famine. Protestants were dying and emigrating in droves too; but at the time, Church propaganda covered this up to portray the famine as something only happening to Catholics.200 years later, still works.>>534927617>just fishThey did fish. But these fishermen weren't catching fish to eat, it was their job-and if you get caught stealing, you and your family are fucked. They often didn't own their own equipment, either.Not that any of this matters because people obviously did eat fish, and thus didn't starve. The issue was that Britain's underfunding of Irish fisheries and refusal to invest in infastructure meant that the wholesale storing or transport of fish inland wasn't happening. The Irish Potato Famine wasn't "everyone starved", it was "the population who relied heavily on potatoes (a LOT, but not all) starved."
>>534934921Mass starvation of Irish and Indians are the only 2 groups that I am aware of that the British did to. Bolsheviks learned it from someone.
>>534935464It was not. It was regulated and licensed, same as it was in England
>>534935174I couldn't tell you. I've only been up there a handful of times, i'm not too familiar
>>534930015>his country is named after a literal famine
>>534935600>Bolsheviks learned it from someoneNo, they didn't. They had their own reasons (or justifications) for the things they did that caused famines, many of which were rooted in overly rapid imposing of collectivist policies. Nothing to do with Britain whatsoever.
>>534935600>guy related just enough to the biggest most evil jews around writes a book about how they shouldnt maybe have all that wealth>retarded goyim miss the point>kill eachother like animals>again>just goyim things>somehow marx bad rothschild that rules to this day goodI fucking hate goyim but amerimutt goyim are the most retarded of all, thanks for your foreskin, goy
>>534935781Americlaps who get their understanding of history and politics from influencers and internet memes are worse than actual retards. I could talk for hours about the very solid links between Britain and Israel and all that shit, only for some yank ape to stumble in and say>SEE>ITS GOMMUNISTSI wouldn't be surprised if half the reason so many teens end up going commie is out of sheer spite of how utterly insufferable yank "anti-communists" are.
>>534924442>can tour the country in a daylol jk>stuck in pubyou know it
>>534935770Kikes experimented on a capitalist planned economy in Ireland first. Why was this done again 80 years later but with communism? And the methods were perfected to make it worse by closing the boarder and breaking off outside contact so people couldn't escape this time. With communism you can radicalize people who believe in the ideology to carry out vial acts. But with capitalism those foot soldiers are mercenaries who need to be paid well or they will take bribes to not do some of that stuff.
>>534935870 Most of them are still coming down off of various forms of Neocohen nonsense and it doesn't help that literally the entirety of the left-wing intelligentsia in America ascribes to some form of Frankfurt School Marxism. For years the only way you could criticize a Jew in America was to tar him as some sort of red(whether or not it was actually true) and it's a hard habit to break. That said, noticing the Jews is verging on acceptable in right-wing circles in this country and they're going to have to realize it's just supremacist Jews being supremacist Jews.
>>534927682We don’t think about any of you
>>534935174>The thing about Tyrone is young folk tell me that’s where all the jobs are at due to the firms, fermanagh is like farms? Outside enniskillen.Pretty much. It's a backwater county. It has some tourism, like the Marble Arch caves, and WaterWays Ireland I think rent boats out for the Shannon–Erne Waterway and you can go explore. Us locals will often camp on the Islands if the weather is good, make a fire to cook over, have some cans, do some fishing or wildfowling. it's nice. I've met people from Dublin and Switzerland down the lough. The best of Fermanagh is the fun you make yourself, to be honest. There's not much but it is a beautiful place
>>534936156And tell me anon, which aspects of the Irish economy in the mid 19th Century would say are "planned", and which Jews were involved in this big experiment? Because last I checked, it was a *lack* of government intervention that allowed the famine to happen. Quite literally laissez-faire gone silly. I would be happy to recommend you books on the topic!
>>534924824Biggest palirat lovers on the planet so hardly surprising.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succoth,_ArgyllOP is Indian btw
>>534936322>have infinite good boy points from all of western civilisation forever because jews got bullied so hard in the 1940s>be so completely insufferable and unbearable that you manage to piss that all away to become the "new nazis"Kill yourself kike, you are no different to civilised people from the mobs of browns you're so desperate for us all to protect you from.
>>534924442the irish are not smart people. they didn't have indoor plumbing until 1997
>>534936400Jews>Live in Europe for 2000 years>Minor impactMeanwhile, Muslims>Live in Europe for 30 years>Every host nation is in a death spiral with no hope of recovery
>>534936516>>Minor impact>lists major impact
>>534936516>minor impactExpelled from 109 places, anon. Only difference is the Muslims arrived after our societies reached a point were expelling horrible parasites became unacceptable.Everyone hates Jews again, not even in a "Nazi" way but in a very casual>Israel? Yeah I hope they get nukedway. These people do not love Muslims, they just hate Jews too. I hope you retarded sand monkeys bomb each other to dust.
>>534936264Cheers for the advice. I really appreciate it, I hope to visit soon.
>>534935870Yeah no shit. This is why I took a closer look at it from a neutral perspective. Found out communism requires a planned economy that can fail spectacularly by either incompetence or malice. Found out too that in the 19th century capitalist planned economies were experimented with and had the same results as the Soviet Union. This is why a mix of socialism and capitalism is the best solution. The only way to make sure the poor aren't being abused and not have all these economic weak points. Funny enough we technically had more socialism in the 50's. Then Boomers got rid of it because they were brainwashed by kikes to hate it.
>>534936645Typical goylogic, I'm just happy we no longer have to tolerate living amongst you animals.
>>534936252>food: bland>weather: rainy>skin: pale>outlook: bleakyou know i almost dont blame the britishers
>>534936516So why did your people promote it ?
>>534936661Educate yourself. Countries are a new thing. 109 countries is a fucking retarded thing to say.https://archive.is/8Uvx5
>>534936743>yeah no shit>in response to evidence that what you just said is complete horseshitSo to summarise>No, Communism had nothing to do with the Famine>>534936790You are at the>"at least the US still supports us...right?"stage of Israeli ACKing, kike. Your country will be remembered as a stain on the region and on the world. Fumble of the fucking century.
>>534936882Did I say countries, you retarded fucking leaf?The 1st time Canadian soldiers went into battle lead by Canadian officers saw them get their shit pushed in by malnourished Irish raiders. Sit down
>>534936863>he's posing for hot and naughty norge chicks in his area of subvertion>for hot hot R-A-S-S-E-N-S-C-H-Ä-N-D-U-N-Gyou guys are reading way too much into this
>>534936901Cope harder achkmed, the US support is a leash, when we lose it you will see what were actually capable of.
>>534924442You know how the French Revolution occurred in France, introduced various ideas across Europe, to later see them implemented in the 1848 Springtime of Nations?Britain never went through that.The British never stood up against their abusive aristocrats and bureaucrats.Consequently the Irish were heavily subdued with enormous military might, and forced to keep growing potato crops despite the incompatibilities and diseases with that crop.The leaders knew that. They enforced their laws knowing that it would kill the Irish. "Gooud riddunce wuddnt youuu sayyy sir, sir?"I'm not Irish don't fucking worry. Stuck up English aristocracy has something diabolically repulsive about it that triggers my inner Hitler.
>>534926964The impoverished Irish fishermen pawned their fishing equipment at the end of the season and when the famine came they didn't have the money to get their tools back. They literally exported their nets and boats.That only would have fed a portion of the population of the coastal towns anyways. These weren't modern powered fishing vessels.
>>534924824The education system corrupts everyone.You can tell how serious the problem is when you mention this and then get scolded for daring to infer the follow-up implication that people shouldn't be publicly educated at all.All those so-called awake people, but if you talk about schools they fall back in line like good little goyim.It's disgusting. And so are Jews.
>>534931154>Lacks basic understanding>Laughs when someone uses a tool to get itJews are extra good at making you take pride in your ignorance. Or maybe that is just your nature.
>>534932733This. The irish mind is dangerously white (pathological altruism) factored by dangerously niggerish (victim mentality, drunk, lustful, violent) which results in some truly hilarious outcomes. But, sadly, the current political landscape has been tilting shitlibby.
>>534933851Saint Joseph, pray for us.
>>534937169>oh wow>its actually banter
Gonna ruffle some feathers and bounce. I lived in ireland for 25 years before moving to the UK for 5 years, moved back to Ireland for 2 and have now been living in AUS for 7 months. Do we have a lot of niggers in our country? Yeah, it ain't great. But if you stay away from Dublin its 90 percent whites. Australia and England? Ye don't have a fucking stone to cast. Whites are LITERALLY a minority in both your countries. Even online statistics confirm it. When ever im back home for every nigger, chink or jeet I see? I see around 30 whites. Over here in Australia or the UK? Id be lucky to see a spec of ye in a sea of brown and yellow. Worry about yourselves first.
It is sad to see the state of Ireland. Their entire culture gone. Their language. They literally speak the language of those that raped their grandmothers. Not only that but Ireland's culture is just drinking whiskey and getting into fights. The few things that people know about Ireland are because of US actors like Ben Affleck and Matt Damon.
>>534937152>the Irish were heavily subdued with enormous military might, and forced to keep growing potato crops
>>534937311>defending using ai slopNTA but sloppers need to die. >>534932733Anon, the British Government is *still* covering up war crimes it committed in Northern Ireland. Ireland doesn't have a victim mentality, its just that Britain has been doing dire shit in Ireland constantly until the modern day.>>534937351A lot of the Irish anti-immigration stuff is online or a LARP. We do not have right-wing politics here. The only challenge to the government is other parties that are even further left wing.>>534937397Ireland has alot of culture that is very present in everyday life, you just don't see it if you're only on the internet. The GAA is something that not many countries on earth have an equivilant of.
>>534936901Putting the planners in too few hands. Not having a few independent people and companies who can step up in case of government or monopolistic failure. Government shuts down? Mail your packages with a private company. Company goes out of business? mail your packages with the slow US postal service or another company.
>>534935600>Bolsheviks learned it from someoneNo, the jews taught the anglos, whom they controlled since the Rothchild takeover after Waterloo.
>>534924442irish people are subhuman dogs
>>534925123The potato crop was sold on the futures market. Meaning the contracters demanded their customer supply paid for goods.Why is that an englishmans problem?Also the English were by far the most generous aid contributors to Ireland during the famine.
As a western European, it is sad seeing what happened to Ireland. The world would be so much richer if they had maintained their culture, their language. Now, they are a spiritually broken nation that speaks the language of those that raped their grandmothers. Without Italian Scorsesse, most people wouldn't know anything about Ireland. It is just sad. McGregor said it himself. Irish culture is whiskey and bar fights.
It's the same thread we had for years. What did we do to piss off jews today?
Get a new script, you lazy cunts
>>534937487And yet your woman fucking worship us despite the fact the average norwegian is tall and has facial features chisled from stone. Imagine how boring your personality must be that your countries woman would rather fuck 5'9 bearded puff faces instead of having to listen to >jah! De ice is vury tuf today, me an jorgenhenshin abdullah will go feesh now :)))
>>534937489>Why is that an englishmans problem?Because the majority of Ireland's population had been reduced to incredible poverty by retarded British policies, coming to not only rely on the potato but even accept it as payment for work.Britain deliberately underfunded key Irish agricultural industries so as to not compete with their own, without any plan or safety net for when things go wrong.>English were by far the most generous aid contributors to Ireland during the famine.Given that the entire population of Ireland were supposed to be British citizens, this isn't really much of a boast. The fact that there's even a list of aid contributors for something happening on Britain's front doorstep suggests something is very wrong.British rule in Ireland was sometimes retarded and sometimes malicious, but never competent.
>>534937446>>defending using ai slop>NTA but sloppers need to die.You are literally a nigger with a third grade education blasting a nigger with a 5th grade education for "acting white".
You just need need to find one of them leper kahns then you gets their gold nigga
>>534937677Anon, I get my understanding of history and politics from studying both of them. I do not get it from whatever google manages to scrape from reddit threads and social media LARPers.AI is for pajeets. Although given your flag, there's a high chance it's reaching its target audience!
>>534924442monoculture shenanigans>>534936011>tour the country in a daysmaller size (and thus more expensive overhead) unfortunately invites monoculturingit needs to loss lead polyculture diversification>safe or easy to understand codeis better than>faster and more efficient codein most cases, and such principles transpire IT development
>>534937446>the British Government is *still* covering up war crimes it committed in Northern IrelandNo war crimes were committed during Operation Banner.
It's just sad what happened to Ireland. A whole culture gone. And they just accepted it. They even lost their language. A language is somehow a technology that helps you deal with the world. And they are dealing with the world with the language of those that raped their grandmothers. It is spiritual slavery. I feel a lot of empathy towards them, it is just too sad.
>>534936307Excuse me but weren't the absentee landlords exploiting Ireland the same people or nobility running the British government? I also remember Benjamin Disreali was heavily involved in the Whig politics that told the Irish to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and then he switched his opinion to fuck over British farmers a few years later after the damage was done to Ireland.
>>534937767Plenty of them were, anon. In fact they're among the main reasons that the IRA did so well instead of fizzling out in the 1970s like many expected.One of many examples of Britain's retarded obsession with optics ultimately leading to them getting their shit pushed in for the long term.
>>534937740One of the few true high IQ individuals left on this godless board and not some retard tho thinks answering 45 "guess the next pattern!!!!" Questions gives a true IQ estimate
>>534937673>British ruleWhy is that an englishmans problem?
>>534937740>Anon, I get my understanding of history and politics from studying both of themYour third grade education.Since you are so well studied in history and politics, perhaps you should spend your time now learning debate and rhetoric, as you seem to be at a pre-K level on those subjects.
>>534937943>your third grade educationAnon, respectfully, you haven't a notion. I would be happy to list you some books on the Irish Famine or some specific chapters of particular relevance to this thread.>no you must epicly debate me on 4chan, or else I winAnon, AI tools are not reliable and are controlled by global megacorp. They are massively inconsistent and relying on them for anything more than the most mundane or trivial things is the fastest way to make yourself an actual retard. So yes, even if something some pajeet coded AI dogshit vomits up happens to agree with something I'm saying, I will tell the AI user to get fucked for throwing slop into a discussion.I do not know why so many yanks are so hopelessly mindbroken by a need to have machines think for them. The most cucked shit imagineable.
>>534937459It looks like I have to go further into medieval history. The problem is that I am worried that it will be censored as hell thanks to fagmasons writing the history books. They had more time to tamper with the overview of what happened. No info on who where the tax collectors is easily found most of the time. I would be largely stuck with either the censored stuff or the worst slanderous stuff that sounds like accusations to normies and not real history. This is why I never liked doing this era. People back then could not write in an objectively neutral account of what happened without it turning into an editorial or have fantasy elements. It is always the historians who later rewrote what actually happened by looking at all the facts and then even this gets censored by Jews when they update the books. 18th and 19th century history is easier because of open Jewish influence and extra attention to detail. They don't bother to censor the names and it sounds neutral when a bad Jew does something.
>>534935573> The Irish Potato Famine wasn't "everyone starved", it was "the population who relied heavily on potatoes (a LOT, but not all) starved."You will pay the price if you're a fussy eater
>>534938535If you want a real redpill, go look up who funded the initial Norman Invasion of Ireland.
>>534938535>It looks like I have to go further into medieval history.You should look into the Northern European potatoe famine and wonder why the Irish are the only ones still bitching about it.
>>534938692Probably because while the blight hit much of Europe, only Ireland (completely under control of Britain) sufferd so greatly. The other bit that suffered a lot was the Scottish Highlands-which Britain was also trying to clear of pesjy non-English sorts.Hilariously most Irish and English people have zero issue with one another, but some anons keep fighting a made up crusade on the internet.
>>534938812>The other bit that suffered a lot was the Scottish HighlandsThe usa didn't suffer because they got a whole load of new immigrants from Scotland and Ireland. Isn't it strange that when people supposedly die in Europe they also seem to arrive in america in great numbers at the same time?
england let the famine happen. ireland produced enough grain and wheat to feed itself, but england demanded the exports kept coming. they also didn't let ireland have a fishing industry
>>534938961>everyone either died OR emigrated, there's no way both things occureddid teachers in school always give you back your tests face down, anon?
>>534924824Irish people are some of the biggest hypocrites and double moralistic folks there is. Just the fact they rely on their arch enemy for protection is insane.
>>534939272Protection from who lol?
>>534939272>hypocrites how so?>double moralistic how so?>rely on their arch enemy for protection I think shrugging and saying "we'd lose anyway, might as well let Brits die for us" has always been a very funny way to look a fundamentally cucked foreign policy.Mind you, how are they supposed to protect their country when there's a retarded border cutting it in two?
>>534939218Enough people died or emigrated for Ireland to lose 20% of the population. This was never presented as there were no Irish people left. Just that more people would have starved to death if they stayed.
>>534939218I didn't do multi guess tests, I was expected to learn things from books and make my own answers.
>>534924442I dont understand why they didnt eat fish.Its a island.
>>534939642see >>534935573
>>534939521"Coffin ships" (Irish: long cónra) were crowded, disease-ridden cargo vessels that transported over a million Irish immigrants to North America during the Great Famine (1845-1852), with mortality rates often exceeding 30%. These vessels, named for their high death rates, resulted from desperate emigration, poor regulations, and profiteering owners, leading to massive losses at sea and at Canadian quarantine stations.
>>534924442>Ireland grows food for the rest of the UK, as Ireland was a part of it back then>Grow enough Corn, barley, wheat, millet, to feed 50% of the UK and it self several times over.>Farmland is all owned by English aristocrats and all produce except potatoes exported>Fungus killed off potato crop >Food exported at gunpoint by English soldiers on the orders of English aristocrats >Irish starve so hard they STILL have not got back to the pre starvation population, 180 years laterSometimes OP is not a faggot. Today was not that day
>>534926943We're all kosherBrother war is the name of the game.Scottland vs EnglandRussia vs UkraineUS pissing off Europe over greenland.Everysingle one of us is jewed.Putins a jew, Zelenskis a jew, Starmers a jew, Trump probably converted if he wasnt secretly one already.
>>534936307A monopoly unregulated is effectively like a communist government that tries to takeover after a while. Even my boomer dad understood this. The British wouldn't keep the East India company under control until they lost the American colonies. That is why and how they conquered India. Sure the British Raj and the American Colonies technically existed at the same time. But they got regulated further into bankruptcy after this blatant takeover attempt that started a revolution here. Why is it that we never had anything near this level of crony capitalism until the British Empire collapsed?
>>534924442I am for the Irish unification... with the United Kingdom.If you fight starvation with communism, you deserve everything bad, that happens to you.
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>>534926486https://youtu.be/jfzLg73Jl5Mhere is an in depth economic history of ireland, and how it was systematically destroyed and subjugated for the wants and needs of the british empire. a lot of what he speaks about comes directly from diaries and correspondences of the people who actually instituted these policies. and the english were forced to do wage labour as well. this did not come about because of muh invisible hand, but because nobody wanted to do wage labour, which ended up in all kinds of laws undermining self sufficiencyhttps://files.libcom.org/files/2022-05/The%20Invention%20of%20Capitalism.pdfthis book here goes into great detail on this subject. pic related is an excerpt.1/3
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>>534924442When French relief ships came with emergency food for the starving micks they were met at the port by 5 English ships for every French relief ship, loaded to the gunwales with Irish produce for export to England.
>>534941628>I am for the Irish unification... with the United Kingdom.You're about 110 years too late. Was absolutely possible, even post-famine, but Britain were retards and lost it forever.Reminder that Ireland had a late 1700s Patriot Movement (similar to the Thirteen Colonies) who threatened rebellion not for independence but for the restoration of their rights as British citizens.They wanted an empowered Irish Parliament so that the Irish Nation could be reborn and be a happy and productive part of the Empire. It's only when this failed that the alternative Republican separatism found its footing. Even still, constitutional Nationalism thrived throughout the 19th Century-but once again, English autism ruined it.
>>534927057The africans and muslims that Sinn Fein is allowing in are going to cause you more trouble than any ulter unionists/protestants ever did.In 20 years you will be begging plastic paddy yanks to send you guns again.
>>534943918Crusaders killed every Jew in Ireland before they left. This is why they hate Irish people. I only use the Jews were persecuted meme for medieval history for JQ redpills. Then look to see why or if Jews tried to get revenge later at a time when there is a better historical record to back up the claims of what they were doing. It looked like this was one of the few times Jews were killed for accusations of what they did in other countries. I could not find more about why they were killed for what they were doing in Ireland before this.
>>534944699>this is why they hate Irish peopleNah it's more to do with the fact that the Republic of Ireland has always been among the most anti-Israel nations of western Europe, along with the IRA's collaberation with the PLO.There are many links between Britain's efforts to subdue Irish Nationalism in the early 1900s and the creation of Israel decades later.
>>534938961The people who got here ended up dying of diseases in cities and working poverty wages if they didn't spread out fast enough after arriving. NYC had the population density of Hong Kong but not the sanitation to support such a population in poor neighborhoods without immigration. I kid you not. The death rate frequently exceeded the birth rate.
>>534924824Countries with a chip on their shoulder towards a neighboring country they compare poorly against often fall into this trap. They want some way to show their superiority, but wouldn't be in their situation if that was easy. So they do stupid shit like sell themselves off for short term profit to brag about their "economic growth". Even more common is trying to beat the other country morally by jumping to the front of every political fad. Ireland went hard on both.Other examples are Canada to the US, South Korea to Japan, and even Scotland to England. I think it's pretty impressive that the English managed to inspire this seethe in two out of the three of their closest neighbors.
>>534924442I think the retards blame England because of some fucking retarded tax law or some shit. But I'd argue letting a tax law stop you from surviving to the point where actual millions of you die is retarded to the point where you deserve it.
>>534945284>>534938961No. There is a reason why Jews kept screwing over the Irish and wouldn't stop. Might be why New England whites weren't targeted with replacement migration as much outside of major port cities. I always found it odd they hated white Americans so much. Founding stock? Slaver! Pay reparations! Came here after the Civil War? Also guilty. Still gotta reparations! They have been trying to kill every white who wasn't founding stock for a long time. Then it was everyone who was not old money who gave them a leg up. Now every white. Just for getting in the way by also helping poor whites.
>>534946328>No.>There is a reason whyI just told you the reason, anon. Israel hates Ireland because Ireland called them out for their shit from Day 1.Have you never wondered why the completely made up "De Valera signed a book of condolences to Hitler" myth came about? Have you ever wondered why so many (often American) people think Ireland sided with the Nazis in WW2? You don't need to make up reasons as to why Ireland is hated by Jews, we know the reasons and the reasons are mostly that Ireland told them to fuck off from day dot.
>>534937152No, we absolutely never overthrew and executed a monarch and replaced him with a short-lived dictatorship
>>534946406I think it goes way back further than that. Some Jews were responsible for the Potato Famine. Someone brought up other places in Europe people were being starved to get them to leave. This might be a red pill on were Jews were expelled or killed in the past and for what reasons. It could explain patterns in 3rd would immigration. Who is causing economic migrants? Are they real or fake? If you look at what was happening during the Potato Famine a bunch of Irish had to work on colonial projects to feed their families. They were being extorted into it.
>>534931776slow news day
>>534924824yeah anon. (((They))) Decided.
>>534924824should have fought against the jews first
>>534925123Just look at how the media portrayed us as littleral beasts. Dont give this surrounded by fish crap. Yes. Keep in mind the draconian murder and confiscation of all the best land prior to famine. Laws in place over the centuries guaranteed we were slaves in our own country. It’s ironic to see Americans snide remarks. This is the same empire you fought too. The political goal of the famine was to thin out the population because at 8 million they knew the next rebellion would not be able to be controlled. And the abundance of cattle and crops that was being exported during the famine at it height would be lost to their wealth extracor class. It was a planned genocide. 1. The Popery Act (1704) mandated that Catholic land be subdivided among all sons to fragment and diminish their estates. 2. The Disarming Act (1695) prohibited Catholics from owning weapons or any horse worth more than five pounds. 3. The Education Act (1695) banned Catholics from teaching or sending their children abroad for a Catholic education. 4. The Banishment Act (1697) ordered all Catholic bishops and regular clergy to leave Ireland under penalty of death. 5. The Registration Act (1704) required Catholic priests to register and give security for their "good behaviour." 6. The Catholic Relief Act (1728) officially stripped Roman Catholics of the right to vote in Irish elections. 7. The Irish Poor Law Act (1838) created a workhouse system that incentivized landlords to evict impoverished tenants. 8. The Poor Law Extension Act (1847) shifted the financial burden of the destitute entirely onto local Irish landlords. 9. The Gregory Clause (1847) denied government food aid to any person holding more than a quarter-acre of land. 10. The Encumbered Estates Act (1849) facilitated the sale of bankrupt estates, often leading to mass evictions by
>>534948213>mandated that Catholic land be subdivided among all sons to fragment and diminish their estates.That was indigenous irish landholding practise known as gavelkind you absolute spastic
>>534924944This is incorrect. The English didn't steal the potatoes. They took every other crop, which is why the Irish were dependant on potatoes.
>>534939210It’s 1840 also. Unless you live 3 miles from the sea. It’s not happening. And you don’t have the capital for a boat purchase if you’re living in a ditch eating grass and on the edge of starvation. Plus the good land near the sea in the south and east was all owned by huge estates on English nobles.
>>534924442Yeah, blaming the Brits for everything bad that happened on their watch seems to be a recurring theme throughout history. It's not just the Irish that do this.
>>534945284They tricked a bunch of WASPs into supporting it. That is why. They thought it was going to just be a crusader state where Jews could larp. Not actually be in control. Then it was allied independent country for Jews. Now it is just outright hostility to everyone. Lets face it the Irish were correct that it was going to be land theft of benefit to Christians. Maybe the British should have listened to what the Pope had to say when he condemned it.
>>534926486>Go do something elseIt was illegal to hire Irish for most anything else.
>>534948483You just don’t want to face the truth. It was a cruel act of genocide. From a neighbour you have plenty in common with. By a ruling class that was treating your own people at home as just a higher form of debt slave. We’re not the enemy. Empire and banking elites are. Their greed is a bottomless pit. And they are amassing all the wealth once more. In your nation and mine.
>>534948695You have a history of this too. The Swedish genocide in Poland 1655 (Potok of Deluge) killed about 30% of all Poles. Same thing empire and greed.
>>534948807>It was a cruel act of genocide.Hysterical emotive framing. You are a leftist.Real genocides are swift and mechanical.
>>534924824Stockholm syndrome. Ireland is like a child subjected to trauma based mind control. They’re the sirhan sirhan of ethnicities. It’s obvious when you look at their ethnic characteristics. Alcoholism, superficial charm and manipulation, casual violence. If I used that to describe a person it would be obvious they suffered childhood abuse but when you describe a people it’s just culture.
>>534948620It is possible to walk 20 miles in a day. A wagon of fresh fish can get there in 2 hours or less. Someone is stopping it from reaching the people and forcing the wheat to leave the village. Might be fun to see what sort of maze routes around the estates they had to take to reach the sea.
>>534948744Who was organizing this? Someone in the scratch your back club?
>>534948807>Under Brehon law, gavelkind, a form of partible inheritance,[1] was the system of land inheritance. The Normans called the Irish inheritance law the name gavelkind because of its apparent similarity to Jute inheritance in Kent.So the government made it so gaelic irishmen had their own law back which had been banned in 1604 but you are claiming that englishmen did it to them. holy shit youre retarded
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>>534924824They basically copy-paste all their legislation from the UK except in rare cases where the EU doesn't allow them to. It's extremely retarded living there. Not that Chicago is much better. The retards are different, though.
>>534924442Irish are scum and now a tax loophole for fortune 500 countries to make us even poorer, nuke ireland
>>534924824Americans really are too retarded to understand the most basic political shit.
>>534924824We have a right to diversify ourselves, chud.
>>534950742Forgor your memeflag
>>534948609Britain carried on taking imports of other crops because their economy collapsed when we initially stopped importing it.Mills, and merchants in Ireland stopped paying farmers for grain etc. because they could no longer export it and make money themselves, and the farmers lacked the means to process it themselves in to food.
>>534937318>(pathological altruism) factored by dangerously niggerish (victim mentality, drunk, lustful, violent)This, fuck the irish. They're the most consciously evil people i ever met. Not crazy like spics and niggers, but a conscious evil. Should have starved all those inbred fucks.
Oh look another low IQ take by anglos and fags about Ireland. It's the same shit on twitter as well.
>>534952224>because their economy collapsed when we initially stopped importing it.Yeah, that's what happens when English landlords charge ridiculously high rents to farmers who only produce food, and English parliamentarians write laws which inflate the price of food (Corn Laws). Food becomes very expensive in all of Britain but the farmers just see their rents get ever higher, then you stop importing grain and the farmers are now homeless. Master stroke.
>>5349244421 people grow cabage, feed 2 peoplenow 2 people grow potat, feed 10 peoplenow 10 people can´t grow potat, can only grow cabage for 5 people. big sad, everyone starvesfamine explained in 10 seconds.
>>534954462The wheat was being exported and the fish not being caught. That that many people would have starved if someone wasn't meddling with exports. Stop growing potatoes grow something else. Don't export until this is sorted out.
>>534927682The Romans wouldn't starve anyone to death, they would just kill them or capture them into slavery.
why are there potato famine threads every day now? is this supposed to stoke hatred between the uk and ireland? obviously anyone who has actually studied or read anything about it will realise how horrible it was, and any other comments are throwaway flippancy by uneducated spastics. they don't teach this in british schools because the irish are white, so we only learn how bad we were to brown people, while committing crimes against fellow whites is seen as patriotic and an achievement. telling the truth about the irish famine is classed as 'woke' by the daily mail.
>>534954729alan partridge modest restaurant: the post
>>534925123The land owners of Ireland weren't anglos. It maybe hard to understand the reality of Irish landowners being Irish, but that was the actual fact of the matter. And the UK Parliament didn't having a say over those landowners, as it was their land, not the UK parliaments.
>>534926857Serfs to whom? The Irish owned the land, the UK didn't own the land. YouYou mean the Irish elites made the poor Irish serfs. So, again, what do you mean exactly?
>>534927057You are unfortunately brainwashed by a hundred years of very well documented state mandated propaganda.
>>534954910What is your point Muhammad?
>>534927682LoL you're joking right? You genocided pretty much everyone you met
>>534924824fpbp
>>534927916The lord's weren't English though. At a push they were Norman. Normans who had been in Ireland 100 years less than they had been in england and Scotland. So, they were irish
>>534935005Not even British. They were Normans who arrived in Ireland in the 12th century. They were irish
>>534935096Anglo-Irish means Norman Irish. You may as well say french Irish, or viking Irish. They arrived in the 12th century, and don't have Anglo-Saxon blood.
