Orban's defeat in Hungary has revived some sense of European optimism however, we may very well be witnessing a dead cat bounce. European federalism was dead in its crib in the early 2000s, some attempts at revival of those ideas have been made over the years however no real support has ever materialized. Now the real discussion is about the EU's continued existence or its dissolution. The threat is twofold, on one hand you have the "Patriots" group led by the French right-wing whose stated goal is the downsizing of the EU to an economic area stripped of most institutions and on the other side you have the nuclear option in AfD who are openly talking about pulling Germany out of the EU.The "Patriots" are as of now the more immediate threat so I will open up by talking about them. This group includes such members as Le Pen's party, Law and Justice from Poland and Fidesz in Hungary. Within this election cycle we are running the real possibility of a close right-wing victory in France, which would not instantly spell doom for the EU however when combined with the fact that Poland is more or less guaranteed to be taken over by a PiS led coalition soon and the fact that we will have a growing "moderate" euroskeptic block that will include Romania, Bulgaria, Austria, Italy then the problem compounds. What happens in that scenario will be mostly down to Italy and the ECR. So far they've been content to just sit around doing nothing but who knows, victories of the "Patriots" block might incentivize them to associate with one another.1/2
Then you have the nuclear option. AfD is currently pooling near 30% in Germany so they are less of an immediate threat than the French right, however if the CDU keeps shitting its pants like its been doing so far an eventual expansion of the German far-right into the mid 2030s could see an AfD takeover of the country. Maybe they will moderate their agenda by then, but so far they haven't, and if you ever see Germany pull out of the EU it's goodbye and goodnight for everyone. They have the power to unilaterally end the entire thing.What could also lead to this exact same result is a major economic crash in the Western World that would inevitably mobilize both far-left and far-right elements all over Europe. It would instantly return us to the 1930s and God only knows what would happen then.Overall, we are looking at a rather uncertain future for Europe. The EU is a paper tiger, any slight shock could rock the entire structure and end the status quo.2/2
/int/ bros would you be in favor of a right wing EU if that was an option?
>>534924457The European right is way too astroturfed by the CIA and Mossad to ever become based like that.
>>534924455>federalismFuck off
>>534924456Populists parties are all talk no action (at least here). Euro economies are too integrated right now, pulling out would mean your industries get instantly nuked and lose the only market they're still dominant. I can only see the Germans trying it due to their arrogance but I wouldn't bet on itThat said if the EU doesn't federalize, curbs down the mohammedians and genocides the boomers thing are going to get really grim in 10-20 years
>>534924460You have the most moderate flavour of euroskeptics (like we will also have soon). The guys in Germany and France are a couple levels above.
>>534924461Yeah due to their arrogance and better economy. But German car industry would instantly collapse and they would go back scavenging in the woods like Arminius oder so
europe is fag continent
Europe was always doomed.I mean most of the heavy lifting during the golden age was just done by a few western euro countries. And now they don't even have that.
>>221421289I have the impression that the AfD will also dilute itself. It happens to all parties the closer they get to power.Look at how Le Pen has toiled to make her party look more and more moderate to have mainstream appeal. She dropped her anti-EU anti-euro positions and also reneged on MAGA support. She's basically doing whatever compromise to get into power.The AfD also dissociated itself from Trump, as the orangegutan is very unpopular in most Europe. I think the real danger with the AfD is their nostalgia. Once in power they'd be looking to connect Germany back to Russian gas, against anything anyone would say. Just because their only ideological reflex is to go back in time, they have this mental image of the golden days of the DeutscheMark and how great Germany was when it was hooked to Russian gas. But they also add this DDR dimension to their nostalgia, which is going back in time to not being in the EU. Because that's what this sovereignist current is, they all want to retreat in their own parochial interests and not give a fuck what happens in Europe. Milk and honey will be flowing once Germany stops paying a few tens of billions to the EU budget, they think. And once Russian gas gets in the country again.They fail to see that times have moved on and that car industry is no longer stuck in those 1970s or 1990s times. Now the Chinese are eating the German carmakers' lunch by producing more cars that are easier to make and don't require the super-duper complicated engines that were the pride of German cars. But they beat anyone on this planet at producing large batteries and electronic gadgetry for EVs. And so going back to Russian gas and leaving the EU will do fuckall to change the fact that Germany will still not have a competitive car sector, if China can outproduce at cheaper prices.So it's possible the AfD might fail somewhere along the way, because the gap between ideology and reality is too large.
>>534924455Western Europe of 2025 isn't the Europe of 1925 and certainly not 1825. They are depleted as people, there's no gunpowder in the magazines so to speak. They are hedonist degenerates who will not fight, not for their country nor for themselves. Western Europe will be a caliphate by 2100 and it will happen without firing a shot. A significant (if not most) percentage of people in the west are still of the mindset that wanting to preserve their demographics, heritage, and culture is racist. They legit think only non-whites should be entitled to that kind of governance. By the time most westerners realize that multiculturalism doesn't work if the cultures you're importing are at complete odds with theirs, it's already too late. France and the UK are not going to recover from this. Even if they completely stop the flow of immigrants, they're going to keep the ones that are already there. Even if mass deportation was feasible, the idea of taking all those people and shipping them back to Africa and the middle east is going to be more than what most people can stomach... The French and British will be completely outbred by the immigrants they allowed in in just a few decades. Smaller entities like Denmark, Holland, Belgium will be wiped out much sooner.
We don't care what Europeans think any more. They've allowed their civilization to be taken over by Jihadist invaders. Until they sort that out, we have zero respect for them. Trying to argue with 90% of Europe is a waste of time. Their people are beyond demoralized. Intergenerational cucking has completely drained them of the will to stand up for anything virtuous, even the basic animal values of self-preservation. They are essentially told they must care for every foreigner, and many of them go along with it. Euros are educated in self-destructive nihilism from birth, and the fruit of this despondency is a complete spiritual collapse of the continent.The reality is, Europe is just becoming a satellite continent for Africa and the Middle East. There is no visible assimilation or even an attempt at it. Europeans are nothing but the dogs of Muslims. They have established themselves as the ruling class in Europe, they live there, but are not subject to European laws or values, while native Europeans exist to serve them and must placate their every whim.A Muslim can mass murder dozens of Europeans. And what is their instinct? Mourn for their dead brothers and sisters? Desire revenge? Make sure it doesn't happen again by getting them out? No. When an attack happens, Europeans don't shed tears for the dead. They shed tears thinking about the backlash against Muslims. They cry about how, "oh, this attack will cause the far right to be more popular!" Meanwhile they reassure themselves that we are all human while Muslims laugh at them for being weak spineless cucks and blatantly take advantage of them, proudly sucking Europe dry.It is like they want to go extinct. They hate themselves more than anything else in the world. A continent of useless, self hating pussies who somehow think they are also superior to the rest of the world because they care about "muh human rights" (lel)
>>534924456>Then you have the nuclear option. AfD is currently pooling near 30% in Germany so they are less of an immediate threat than the French right, however if the CDU keeps shitting its pants like its been doing so far an eventual expansion of the German far-right into the mid 2030s could see an AfD takeover of the country.Our system is designed to avoid absolute majorities for a single party. So you probably will never see a 50%+ AfD, ever. I think we had a 51% CDU7CSU majority only once in our history, in the 50s.
>>534924457>right wing EUThe concept of left and right politics have been so muddled that this doesn't mean anything.Left is niggers and fags, while right is niggers and retards.It's all Jews in the end.>>534924456>>534924455You completely fail to understand that the core problem the EU is facing is that it isn't competitive because China does all the serious manufacturing and America does all the serious IT.Nothing can fix that, not even competent leadership. Europe's only possibly future is regression into historic curiosity that once was.
>>534924455Orban was a hero defending Europe from the EU though.European federalism is anti-European and anti-white
>>534924457Define right-wing.
The CIA wants you all to die in a war with Russia fyi
>>534924861Russia can't beat Ukraine, Israel can't beat Hisbollah, American can't beat Iran. What exactly is there to be afraid of for Europe? Yes, we are weak, but so is everyone else now. The differenc eis, hwoever, thatw e are a lot smarter and competent than everyone else when the push comes to shove.
>>534924457Any system that would promise (and actually does)>no nigs>less taxesI fight and die for, simple asBut this seems like wishing for unicorns to be reals
>>534924503>tf, tp
>>534925356kek, saved. you aight, finnbro
>>534924455The european union is a waste of time and resources and is setting the big players back with its policies and deranged leadership, it’s the dark ages all over again just a different flavor. This shit will always tend towards dissolution and only the buckbroken, fart eating, jewish recipients in central/northern Europe see the possibility of a federation as real.
>>534924455>on one hand you have the "Patriots" group led by the French right-wing whose stated goal is the downsizing of the EU to an economic area stripped of most institutionsused to believe in this, but every time it just doubles down, and it seems too far gone now
>>534924590The biggest problem, aside from open borders, is the energy crisis. Equating diplomatic normalization with “nostalgia” shows that your understanding of history in terms of time and space is hampered by a kind of neurological paralysis.
>>534924609Defeatist drivel with a sweeping straw man. You won't reach the faggots you're talking about, nor the basic ones who won't be deterred by the clown world around them. There will be a recollection, but it must be scaled far beyond the lifetime of a single generation.
>>534924643Can't wait for the shitshow of being governed by "coalition of literally all parties that aren't the AfD"
>>534924455>Orban's defeat in Hungary has revived some sense of European optimismDid it? The only people who seem to care are people in touch with the EU commission.
>>534924455literally paid eu propaganda thread
>>534925776You lost tranny
>>534924590>Germany must pay tons of money to babysit the EU and must never normalize their relationship with Russia that is ARROGANCE, nostalgic delusion! China is doing better so GIVE UP. They MUST keep deindustrializing, go all-in on war against Russia. Betting on regime-change looting on it is the only future! We will back and join you just like the good ol times!Sounds like a true American neocon spokesperson
"EU" which imports infinite niggers, jeets and sandniggers will never be a world power. You can't import gorillions of literal garbage people and expect anything but a heap of trash to be the result.
>>534924455UK should be on that picture since kier child raping Starmer has been following every order they've given him along with the £90 billion he just sign us up to pay the EU.I've never wished for anyone to be unalived as much as this piece of shit
>>534924457I don't want to be ruled by some idiots from their glass tower in Brussels, simple as
The EUSSR hates the European peoples and wants to swamp them with browns. They are fucking evil.It's a fucking nonsense that they pushed for a United States of Europe. Burgerland was founded on one single language (not 24-44), and coalesced European migrants into one single American culture. Naturally, they lost their way when they started letting the dregs in after 1965.It's sad that Orban lost, and we have to wait years to see if Reform can even get in and do anything of help. But many European nations are sick of the open-borders insanity. Yes, there should be no union of states (especially not an anti-nationalist one); it should just be a trade-zone. Even the flood of eastern Europeans to the West was a problem, let alone all the fucking non-Europeans who have no right to be here. Fuck off back.
>>534925825Getting cheaper gas from Russia won't save your car industry.Because it's battery technology that matters now and that's an entirely different supply chain in terms of chemicals and other things. Energy is just one small component in the bill of costs. China has earth resources, cheap labour, low environmental standards and cheap Russian gas too. Your AfD wants at best to get back to cheap Russian gas. Everything else would be just as expensive and your carmakers will still go bankrupt. Maybe if I simplified the argument you're going to get it now.Not to mention that other Euro countries will not allow you to get a pipeline across their territorial waters to reach Russia again. And it would get bombed again if it even got to that point.
>>534924455>Now the real discussion is about the EU's continued existence or its dissolution.Maybe in angloland that is not part of EU.
>>534926520That's not what I'm saying.I'm saying the AfD is a false solution. As I argued here >>534926897What all these Western countries have in common is how they all wallow in delusions of going back to the golden age. That never happens.Your time is simply over, seethe and cope as much as you want. You had your time under the sun and it's gone
>>534924918>w e are a lot smarter and competent than everyone elsekekthe kekiest of topest keks
>>534926897>car industry.If only they could learn not to make overpriced shitboxes filled with garbage tech.
>>534926897You are really narrow-minded, because energy is not just about the car industry; it is you, not me, who makes this one-dimensional connection. An example: In France, for instance, the AI industry is currently settling because they do not have intermittent power like here in Germany. The AfD is fundamentally for technological openness and the reactivation of nuclear power. The diplomatic normalization with Russia also serves not only for cheaper energy procurement but generally for opening markets on the heartland.P.S.: Huge lithium deposits have just been discovered in Germany.
>>534926897This. The crisis in the European car industry began about 25 years ago, when cars began to be bloated with electronic components that the continent didn't produce. And obviously, the sector went out of business due to Asian and American competition. If you look at the cars produced in Europe at a time when Europe was producing cars like China does today, you'll see that they were little more than sardine cans in terms of engineering complexity.
>>534926430i'm talking about the eu stupid
>>534927455I don't understand the connection between the French AI industry and energy. Care to explain?
>>534924455>European federalism was dead in its crib in the early 2000s, some attempts at revival of those ideas have been made over the years however no real support has ever materialized.thank god! >Orban's defeat in Hungary has revived some sense of European optimismnever voted for this chabad gypsy btw
>>534924457no. there's only one thing victoria nuland was right about: FUCK THE EU
>>534927657For industrial AI, you need energy that is as cheap as possible and consistently available. This is no longer the case in Germany due to the irregular power supply from wind and solar sources.
>>534924765he signed literally everything in silence while his media empire lied about it all
>>534924455>anno 2026>being an unironically proud yuropeon lmao retarded faggot
>>534926386stop noticing :)
>>534926778EUSSR needs to collapse, there is no way to fix. they want to turn europe into feudal-corporate state where jews and spiritual jews will rule over low IQ/low testorone/weak/poor brown messthey are losing competition and productivity, it makes them agressive and expansionisticfirstly they need to collapse common currency, then default on debts, adopt silver backed currency, cut all social programs and reduce taxes 5-10 timesthen deport browns (they will have nothing to eat after that) disband all eu bureaucrats and reduce government worker 2-3 times
>>534927833shouldn't have given up nuclear
>>534928012>then deport brownsNo you stupid nigger. Browns (and americans, and jews) go first. Everything else has little to no importance in comparison
>>534928012>then deport brownsESPECIALLY gypsies, and not just those who self-identify as gypsies
>>534928071you cant do anything to them because power is held by unelected bureaucrats guided by jewsfirstly you need to destroy any economic or financial base that holds them in powerof cource nothing will be done, european men are feminine castrates, EUSSR will collapse naturally from external force (usa, china, russia etc + middle east)>>534928044its possible to do only when feeding ground for them are destroyed
>>534928239>EUSSR will collapse naturally from external force (usa, china, russia etc + middle east)Zioshill spotted. The US is already occupying 80% of the continent, zog is widespread and browns are being pushed in by the kiked monarchies of Arabia. Those are the people that want to destroy Europe. Getting rid of Ursula won't change their stance, but only empower them. After all, you seem to conveniently forget that Western Europe was occupied well before the EU came to place, and such Europe (1945-1993) did fuck all to kick americans, jews, browns and bolsheviks out of Europe.
>>534928044It gets even more frustrating. The Germans have patented a new type of reactor: the dual-fluid reactor. Apparently, the prototype is now set to be built somewhere in South Africa.
>>534928556it will collapse due to economic incompetence or military defeat, can be bothyou are totally zogged
>>534928556That is precisely why it is interesting to see what happens when the American hegemony collapses.
>>534928638Deflection doesn't work. Explain how a divided Europe will get rid of them.
>>534924455>>534924456>>534924457The EU continues to just barely be the "Least shit turd in the bowl" to live in and it's not for a lack of trying, our political class are just that incompetent in everything that they do.Doesn't matter who wins what and where. This whole sub-continent is just an old folks home with tiered care depending on location and all political issues are only graded in relation to how they'll help support the undeserving mass of drunken boomers that has fucked everything in their lives up until this point and now want to claim benefits.Until the "Right Wing" points out the boomer menace and advocate that they either self-finance or starve we're all fucking fucked big time, and since boomers are the ones that mostly vote right wing good fucking luck making the spineless, corrupt nepo-babies in politics bite the hand that feeds them.
>>534928751solution requires destruction of feeding grounds for cancer and collapse all its financial systemsthen marker will fix itself, remaining competent people will restore local societies using brutal force
>>534928556Im the one who posted this image on this board first.I don't allow you to use it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Jewish_ParliamentDamn they just changed their logo in the search engine to make it even more obvious.
>>534929156>Im the one who posted this image on this board first.Proof?
>>534929280You tlowniggers can access to pur historics. Dig yourself cunt.
>>534929785https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/58793541/#58796232this you? you're old unc
>>534927909I see. Our media was constantly seething about him so I got fooled
>>534924595>>534924609>singaporeyoure either a chink or a jeet lol, lmao even
>>534924459Why fuck off though? The EU has clearly benefitted its members:>Let's face it, the majority of the EU's 27 member states aren't in the club because they nurture a romantic idyll of European political togetherness. They're in it for self-interest.>They believe that ultimately, they are stronger together when it comes to certain issues, especially economics.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy2k7re9jdoAlso, pic related: in every EU country, a majority of people think their country has benefitted from EU membership.
>>534926386>>534927950How the fuck do I apply? Am I the only one not getting paid for this shit???
>>534932303>in every EU country, a majority of people think their country has benefitted from EU membership.For italy it was a disaster. They went from being industrial giant producing everything to fashion food and tourism.
>>534924460>Euro economies are too integrated right now, pulling out would mean your industries get instantly nuked and lose the only market they're still dominant.What does this even mean?Its like saying roman empire could never fall its too integrated. You eat grain from egypt vine from grece and olive oil from spain in france.
>>534924455>current state of EUpic rel
Europe needs to be kept weak otherwise they'll go back to killing each other like they did for centuries
>>534924455Populists wouldnt even colapse the eu they would just end mass migratuon of arabs jeets and other subhumans.If you are ready to destroy EU over your access to niggers then so be it. It would also help to kick out france. You cant be in a union of european poeple and arrab nigger soft power empire at the same time. Pick a path.
>>534933110German flags are all fucking Turk niggers larping what they are not and I tell you they would rather fill european countries with arabs and other fucking sandniggers than live among native stock because of muh islam. Literal muslim jews.
>>534924455If the EU becomes pro white it should exist, if it remains in its current form it shouldn't, simple as
>>534933221Nope.
>>534932835The map shows that over 50% of Italians think the EU is a good thing for Italy.
>>534924643Realistically they only need 40-45% in an election to gain an absolute majority in parliament, which is achievable if things keep going the way they have been.There's a decent chance of it happening in Sachsen-Anhalt this year.
>>534924455The only country (or union) that can become a superpower is the one who will fix the low birth problem WITH THEIR OWN people.Fix women and fix wages and youll become a superpower for 1000 years. Youll outlast anyone. USA, China, Russia, you call it, it doesnt matter if you have 10000 nukes or 10, as long as your population persists together with your culture you will live.Fix women, fix wages and fix housing. Import nobody.
>>534924455EU main purpose is to destroy the nation states and permanently pollute the gene pool, everything else is just bait.
TOTAL JEWU DEAD
merz has just stood up and said eu is a failure because of overregulation and beaucracy and that it "ends now"nothing will change thoeu leftists aren't gonna stop wanting net zero, or paper straws, or ai regulation, or usb c phone charging ports, or mass migration etc
>>534934515The jEwU has way to many useless politicans in cushy jobs, only the nuclear option is enough to remove them all.
>>534934598>only the nuclear option is enough to remove them all.which won't happen
>>534934669That's what every failed government ever assumed.
>>534927155He’s right you know. The most competent “Americans” are all Europeans and European Jews.
>>534924459>Fuck offYes. Imperialism is the only way.
>>534934148So much this! If you leave the EU you can become white as fvck like Britain, Canada, the US, Switzerland, Norway... We all need to leave the JewU to become white!
>>534924595Have you ever even visited Europe? We hate muslims because they exist here but shouldn't, not because they're anywhere close to taking over lol
If the EU cared about Europe, everyone would have energy security by now. All these years without Russian oil and gas, and Europe still gets caught with its pants down. What the fuck. Useless Union, not in the individual countries best interest.
>>534924455>the fact that Poland is more or less guaranteed to be taken over by a PiS led coalitionSomeone invade poland
>>534935629What's the way to have everyone with energy security
>>534924455EU escaping US influence is good enough.Look at Afghsnistan: shithole country - made America seethe.> Shame that UK is cucked to America
>>534935509Cope harder! EU is not an isolated case. UK literally gone to war to destroy nationalism, USA/Switzerland/Canada are not nation states and Norway is arguably better off than most of EU.
>>534924455yurop will never be a world power. you're too brown, gay and retarded. Go look up how many yuropoors died in WWI and WWII. multiple yuropoor nations had more deaths in WWI and more deaths in WWII than the US had deaths in every war since 1775 combines. every yuropoor with brains or balls either moved to the US or was killed in a war in the last 250 years. all that's left are brown subhumans. especially in the butthurt belt countries. they lost a ton of soldiers and then hitler and the russians selectively bred on the gayest dicklessest retards
>>534924457>right wing EU"Right wing" as in they disperse niggers and jeets all over the countryside and support israel harder?
>>534924455Not reading all that.
>>534935509
>>534936304if EU had the oil and gas retarded fat americans have we would be 2x richer than you are now cope and sheethe about that fact stupid mutt
>>534933548Im sure that poling was done on 100 poeple in liberal arts university afiliated with wef NGO. I never met an italian that claimed EU was good for his country.
>>534935629>If the EU cared about Europe, everyone would have energy security by now.it was EU that subsidized reviewable energy to become abortable because we didn't have oil and gas
>>534937271you would still be a brown bitch country because the average yuro IQ is like 70 and the average greek IQ is like 60. it's why you are our subhuman bitch slaves. that and you have no balls, shitskin
>>534924643>Our system is designed to avoid absolute majorities for a single partySo nothing can ever be changed. Fitting for US colony.
>>534928556Thanks to the unelected bureaucrats that no-one can vote out, Europe is lagging China and the US.
>>534927657Nuclear power is abundant (power output), extremely price-stable, and highly reliable, and it's all in France.Megacorporations love these things. Unreliability raises risk, inflates costs. They hate cost. Cost makes investors pull their dick out of the milker. Cost is their enemy.Other nations with their retarded net-loss green energy programmes are none of the above. Except cost. They're lots of that.
>>534937460mutt is projecting hard and pretends he is native american with 160iq PATHETIC
>>534928556Thanks, EU bureaucracy, for all the petty regulations. Good luck if you want to build a power-hungry AI datacentre in that ideologically fucked shit-hole.
>>534924456Your trick depends on common people never making a serious demand for the power to issue currency. You have already spent over a century of trying to make them one giant mess of mutts. You were certain they could never figure out how currency works. Not if they were mutts, anyway. But then you went and taught everyone English, violating thousands of years of divide by language to keep them under control. You can't have this discussion. You'll be fired and possibly deleted if you have it. But the common people are having it. Because they all have a common language. Oopsie!
>>534937634>Nuclear poweris more expensive than renewable
>>534937688one EU law could decimate the USA tech "sector" we could easily go the China rout with blocking and making domestic replacements EU has more real industry than usa and that is WITHOUT our own oil and gas
>>534937639>muttyou are literally a turkish rape baby you are literally a brown turkish mutt
>>534937955yuros aren't smart enough to run their own tech sector. it's why yurop has never put a man in space
>>534938006turks are literally whiter than you mutt now go and back to paying your jew masters made video of bbc fucking your sister on camera
>>534938214>Mongoloid>white
>>534938066if we ban the sale of ASML to your mutt land your entire fake overleveraged jewish economy will crash the next day now go to Asia to beg for some HBM stupid mutt
>>534924455The problem with EU is a sort of crabs in a bucket syndrome. The countries loudest about rebuilding EU military strength etc tend to be the ones that will shirk their responsibilities to pay and contribute toward that goal.
>>534938214>turkish mutt admits to being a turkish mutt>tries to claim turks are whiteyour skin it the color of shit, mutt. you live in a nation full of subhumans>>534938395we'll just make it ourselves. we only have the dutch make it because we pay them subminimum wage because they are brown. yurop has no leverage over anyone. you are literally jeets
>>534938387he did write "whiter than you" not that they are white
>>534937271EU is a bureaucratic entity, is doesn't produce shit, it just regulates and hinders normal innovation. We don't have an AI/IT industry, we don't have any significant cultural exports, our automotive industry is in decline and when it comes to EV, China beats out ass raw. Instead of investing in automation and cutting taxes we import niggers and shitskins by the tone and grow the welfare state.>>534937360With renewable energy you are actually subsidizing China.
>>534938571>we'll just make it ourselvesYou tried and you failed mutt. You would if you could. Also the projection of a minority white country calling us brown lmao
>>534938433noone is going to trust this abomination with any military power as long as it keeps sticking its nose in local affairs ass deep like a turbo autist
>>534938700>With renewable energy you are actually subsidizing China.wind turbines are made in EUinvertors the most important part of solar are made on EU solar is also made on EU compared to oil and gas that EU does not have and needs to import without EU there would not be any push to make renewable viable
>>534935629This is fault of national governments, not EU. It's not EU ordering Germany to blow up its nuclear reactors.Main strength of EU is big protected free trade area, which allows the larger European companies to get even larger and become world class.However this also killed the smaller companies. Previous poster has pointed out how Italy largely deindustrialized because of this.Also this doesn't apply to food which is still heavily protected in most countries. Even today, Europeans don't like being dependent on each other for food.Another advantage is that it allows European nations to get better trade terms from larger countries like the USA than would otherwise be possible.EU has little utility beyond this. Freedom of movement is largely meaningless due to language barriers. It's not like USA where someone from New York can move to California and fit right in. Main beneficiaries of freedom of movement have been criminals and non-European immigrants.Single currency. Why was there a need for this? Same question with European citizenship.Prospective European government, army, foreign policy, etc. All of these things are just going to cause drama. Maybe in 100 years it could work, but not now.
>>534938700and giving money to china is 10000x times better than subhuman americans and muslims
>>534938762the only reason we don't is because we pay you brown subhumans pennies a day to do it. you are literally jeets
>>534938950you are literally a subhuman muslim, turk
>>534924455KKP that is needed for right-wing coalition to have majority is pretty toxic due to open antisemitism and proputinism - mainstream parties wanting to keep good relations with Trump administration wont form govt with people that actively try to larp /pol memes in polish parliament...
>>534938998Deluded mutt ASML is not an American company you don't "pay" us
>>534939038you had a nigger named husein as a president subhuman mutt
>>534938829Yes, this. If EU had an army, Orban would have been overthrown years ago 1956-style. Whatever you think of Orban and his ideas, this is a terrible prospect.
>>534939125you are literally a sweatshop since you are brown and you work for pennies since you are subhuman>>534939182you literally had a turk as your king you brown subhuman mutt
>>534925825>The biggest problemIs domineering women! Everything else follows from it.
The second I´m asked to feed westoid niggers is the second when I become anti-EU.The day will come, not today or tomorrow, but in 10 years or so.
>>534939319well, the fact that it's been able to get to the present state already cancels out any future prospects, no matter what changes anyone's proposing
>>534937348Shitalians are a bunch of cretins blaming the EU for boomers running a 15% yearly deficit for a decade and then making the next generations pay the consequences when they could no longer kick the can down the road through currency devaluation
>>534939354>sweatshopWe literally work the least out of any country in the world, quite the opposite of wageslaves. We've also got a minimum of 4 weeks paid vacation days per year. Mutts cannot comprehend this
>>534924457>right wing EUWould be super pro Zionist, send us into the meat grinder I'm the east, more hatespeech laws and replacement migration.The brusselkikes only see the politics shift as a greenlight to be more authoritarian about their current goals.
>>534939452There are more arabs and blacks in the EU than there are Finnish people alive. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND!.
>>534939452> but in 10 years or so.Then it will be too late
>>534939579>nooooo you don't understand politicians should be able to manipulate the currency so they can SPEND even more of OUR money that will certainly make things better
>>534939720Thats when your shihole will collapse under its own niggerhood and bulgaria will be asked to feed portuguese niggers.
>>534939413based bitches causing thirdie seethe>>534939628you work in sweatshops. the only reason we let you have amsl is because your labor is worthless so it's cheaper to have you browns do it than to have Americans do it.you are jeets>>534939652>send us into the meat grinderbased, I hope this happens
>>534938892That is pure cope, EU at best assembles components made in China.>>534938950>giving money to china is 10000x times better than subhuman americansYes, in the same way Europe moved it's factories to China and it worked out 10000x times better.NPCs like you would cut off their legs just to own Trump.
>>534940085>EU at best assembles components made in China.that sound ridicules no matter how you look at it
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>>534938762>>534939125If you own ASML why aren't you producing your own chips, and companies like NVIDIA, Intel and AMD are making trillions?
>>534941374Because it requires essential resources that are mainly found in Asia to fabricate, and because Netherlands is more focused on designing and building machinery rather than mass producing the chips ourselves
>>534941691You already know that this answer is complete bullshit. It's basically because ASML dominates a very niche market and has no capacity to compete at anything else. If it become problematic in any way, TSMC or Samsung would simply start investing in alternatives.
>>534943981>dominates a niche marketYes that's called specialisation nigger. A niche extremely valuable niche that nobody else can do.
>>534933392this>>534924455all it had to do is to not worship jews, not let in an endless tide of nonwhites and keep faggots closetedultimately these simple things proved to be a monumental, nay, impossible task for its leaders
>>534927657Because we're the only nuclear power in Europe (Britain isn't since it's dependent on the U.S). And also the only European country with a sizeable AI startup (Mistarl AI) that's making waves and can actually rival American giants like OpenAI and Claude
>>534924455No can't do, we've got other priorities.
Lol europeans wil go back to killing each other when it dissolves
>>534924455Something that is inherently evil cannot be a force for creating strength in a native people the system does not value nor preserve
>>534944576>that nobody else can doGood luck with that.
>>534946257>actually rival American giants
>>534924455europe failed and is now only a vehicle for lawfare against the interests of europe by germanseurope as a whole doesn't deserve to be a world power, most of it is neuteredwithout french nuclear, german, italian, and british powergrid would have collapsed, and without it they couldn't maintain their industryfrance also have the only independent nuclear arsenal of europewe're basically carrying a bunch of ungrateful retarded smug assholes into global relevancyand every far right party in europe is kosher far right, it won't fix anything, it doesn't want to
>>534941374the netherlands is too brown and retarded to make chips
>>534948917If it's just the interests of Germans then why are Germans also turning against it?
>>534924455Kill gayropean unionThis cursed jewish shit exists only to extract from people and to kill heavy industry
>>534949128a lot of their politicians are literal soviets from the DDR that got into euro politics at the german unification in 90and the average german being a gullible retard falling for every bit of russian or american propaganda against it's own interest
>>534924455>Poland is more or less guaranteed to be taken over by a PiS led coalition soonYou are retarded. Those are the kike/US cocksuckers and solely because of that they have ZERO chance of winning.
>>534949674>kike/US cocksuckers will take over the kike/US cocksucker nation Sounds quite likely to me.
>>534940015over 70% of EU money returns to Germany, France and the west in general
>>534952263and the 30% it remains is money well spent to take over completey a country, take over all its resources, promote cocksuckers and nigger lovers with jews on top. No amount of advertising can convince the poorer and poorer population that EU is beneficial to them. Hordes of fecaloids to boot.
>>534926124I returned to Europe after 10 years and I've been counting children in the street. So far I've counted around 70 foreign children and about 10 local children. This is here. I do remember France being way worse last time I was there. So you tell me where we are heading.
>>534952829They know very well what they are doing, genociding the native populations of Europe. But they will deny it until 90% of Europe will be brown. Which is just around the corner.
>>534924455> The EU is a paper tiger, any slight shock could rock the entire structure and end the status quo.good, fuck the european union, it was fine when its purpose was all about making trade between countries easier, then they had to force importing shitskins and messing with nations politics and making demands here and there or there will be sanctions,
>>534926201There is a possibility that they remove the 5% threshold there to keep the afd out of power.
I've seen a bunch of accounts on twitter claiming to be pro-remigration and pro-eu. An example is Ave Europe which seems to be an organization that wants to become its own party. They all seem to be on some payroll. Maybe they eu created its own troll farms?
the future of Our Union is grand my fellow euro anons
>>534937348>I never met an italian that claimed EU was goodyou are retardeditaly is the least eurosceptic country in the eu, no party is anti eu like in germany, france hungary or greece
>ELECTRICITY?>TROOPS?WE DON'T DO THAT IN GERMANY
>>534925356More like this.
>>534937460>>534937639>obese amerimutt gets triggered by the White man and our blue and white flag representing our blue eyes and white skinMany such cases, hope you get better Lopez
>>534924455>>534924456I can't even comprehend the idiocy behind being proEU.40 years ago Europe was more rich than the US and China one of the poorest countries in the world.What has the EU done in the last four decades other than destroying Europe systematically?What has changed besides things getting more expensive, the streets more brown and the women more deranged?EU DELENDA EST
>>534958546literally no one in greece has white skin or blue eyes achmedgreeks are browner turks
>>534958938>never been to greece awardmutts are browner than turks
>>534958309Why exactly should Europe have a plan to fight the wars of your satanist jews?
>>534924455Without access to>Chinese and Asian markets>Russian energy and resourcesEurope is unviable. It is a dead continent. It holds no technological, industrial or population leverage against other parts of the world, and it is very resource poor. Being subjected to American and Israeli schizophrenia for access to oil is a death sentence.
>>534959066Don't worry about it. Try defending your own waters.
>>534959058America is the only white country. greeks are brown
>>534958938>>534959058>mutt calls a White man brownthis is sad Lopez, just because you will never have White skin and blue eyes doesnt mean you are totally worthless
>>534959732I have blue eyes because of my Russian grandma though. Greeks traditionally don't have them, both Greece and Anatolia had very low steppe admixture because they were highly populated in the Neolithic era. You could find some in Mycenean lineages but those mixed centuries before "Hellas" was a thing.
>>534959712>America is the only white country
Europe is downstream of everyone else. Europe is the world's fucboi
>>534959732greeks don't have blue eyes. greeks are brown and hairy and have brown eyes. greeks look like turks
>>534959859yeah, maybe the pontic "greeks" or the ones Venizelos and Kemal forced upon us
>>534959889it's the running of the nogs. like how asspain has the running of the bulls
>>534960129and whats this?
>>534960186canon fodder, like the french foreign legion
>>534960079you will stay brown regardless of how much you call White people "brown" Lopez
>>534960240what is this specimen for
>>534960253I'm not a latinx, shitskin>>534960376to create a new type of AIDS to kill the homosexuals and yuropoorians with
>>534960609looks like the experiment went wrong
>>534960689>random twitter screencap with no sourceyou are brown, jeetall yuropoors are gay. germany invented trannies
>>534960834mutts are brown manlets and mutilated at birth by their jew masters kek
>>534960929you are a brown subhuman arab. yuros are eunuch third world bitch slaves. subhumans who only exist to work for the US
>>534962104bwahaha keep seething mutilated goy slave
>>534962172I'm not seething. I'm just pointing out you are literally a brown subhuman with no dick
>>534962287hahaha
>>534962361hehe, he got camo issues
>>534962361>no bro my cherry picked images I post every threadyou are brown and obsessed, shitskinthe second century of yuropoor humiliation will not end
>>534924455It's working as intended. Divided and conquered.
>>534963019>y-you are b-brownkek
>>534924455Nah you cooked yourselves before ever coming close. Instead of aligning your country's closer to mine you laughed and joked and criticized and now you'll cry alone and freeze with no energy and no cards.
>>534963459you are brown, yurop is a nation of brown subhumans. it's why you lost both world wars
>>534924455Europe has no king, europe needs no king
>>534924455Orban defeat made things worse europe is cucked beyond belief. Trump, Putin, Erdogan, Bibi, Xi and manx more respected Orban and now everyone takes advantage and laughs at EU.
>>534937569not just that.To actually change important shit, you basically need>2/3rds majority in parliament (bundestag / general election, every 4 years)>50%+1 in senate (bundesrat / individual state elections)>5/8 seats in supreme court (bundesverfassungsgericht / seats appointed by senate and parliament with 12 year term limits, roughly 2 seats per election cycle)So basically even if the AfD won general election tomorrow with a 2/3 absolute supermajority, they still couldn't change shit.AfD would need to win over half of individual state elections with a majority to appoint people for bundesrat who can then appoint people to supreme court, do this for 6+ years while not being able to change shit, just appoint people and THEN win the general election with supermajority to change stuff.AfD would have to win basically every single election, from statewide to local level in the next 6 years while NOT being able to change shit, get REELECTED despite not having changed shit while they were nominally """in power""", and then eventually, over month and years they can appoint people to the right seats to maybe eventually get to a point where they might be able to change shit without getting cockblocked.In other words, the german system is NOT designed for change, especially not by outsiders who weren't part of the political elite for the past decades and able to move their chess pieces into place.A party could win literally a 2/3rds supermajority tomorrow and still be a toothless paper tiger if the other gears in the system (that by design take years of you already being in power to replace) don't play ball.
