It's over
ah yes i was going through all the house BUYER listings this month and its not looking good
>>534941216Not going to see another 2008 but everything going down slowly about 20% over the next 10 years seems likely if you look at market indicators.
Oh wow maybe I can get the 2bd 1bth ofnmy dreams for 600k when gramps needed a pulse and 100 dollars or some beans
>>534941216So what this is telling me is that homes are not in demand and should simply be cheaper. Why is it that everyone is always so quick to prop up "supply and demand", but when it comes to housing, it's crickets? Almost like the housing market might be perpetually rigged because it's a vast source of income for a wealthy and powerful group. Hm.
>>534941332I get you're likely very far below average IQ but try to understand the following:If there are lots of people trying to sell something and far less people trying to buy that something, the market suffers.
>>534941216>not seeing the private equity and holdings companies that are going to buy all the houses until only rentfags are left>>534941473the eternal whine of the rentfag generation>>534941483my house went from 880k to 760k, I paid 525k and couldn't convince my wife to sell at the peak and move to some 300k zero lot line slop in a shitty state while we wait for things to fall apart. oh well.
obsessed
>>534941216Not a coincidence Trump recently said thishttps://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-wants-drive-us-house-103900744.html
>>534941216These people are either intentionally pretending they are retarded, or they are flat out out of touch with reality and also retarded.
>>534941216I wouldn't be surprised if prices stayed high because Trump's real estate boomer biddies would artificially inflated value.Aside from that, I remain positive.
>>534941216Why can't they sell it cheaper? Is it better to pay property taxes etc. in perpetuity?It will just go down lower, bail out as soon as you can.
>>534941332Looks fine to me Sick of housing bullshit death to all realtors
>>534941216government can't let that happen because property taxes would go down
>>534941794>"Let's make being an American harder than it needs to be for the sake of competition."Trump is a kike's shabbos goyim dream.
>>534941372On no. We are gonna see another 2008. Inflation is gonna force foreclosures way up, people underwater will start walking away again. I'm sure there are bad loans in the mix also
>>534941851This would make boomers seethe so it won’t happen
I don’t want you fags to own homes.
Opportunity is not there anymore and no one will buy into the scheme.
>>534941216why the prices not going down? Is it because of gas prices?
>>534941372This. Zoomers simply can't distinguish falling housing prices from a banking crisis caused by fucked lending.
>>534941332Yeah wtf how do you count the buyers
>>534941372Housing already back to precovid levels in real terms since its been flat to down since 2021
>>534941891>implying they don't just raise property taxes and fees constantlyit's assessed value not sticker price. they don't stop taxing at 300k just because your home's market value is worth 220k (generally it's the opposite they tax on a value of 300k when the market is 500k so dropping to 400k still doesn't affect the property taxes)you're either a rentfag or you never looked at your property taxes
>>534941216Not enough pajeetsImport moar pajeets!
>>534941216Soon
>>534942050Buyers register and answer polls you fucking retard.
>>534941950But they're on their way out anyway.I don't think pathological greed is a Christian virtue. Maybe a Judeo-Protestant one.
There won't be a crash. Blackrock will just buy them all and turn them into rentals for infinity jeets.
>>534941970House costs have been flat basically since post-covid crazyness"Houses are too expensive" will be this generation's "wages are stagnated" which the millennials used for far too long after that was no longer true.
>>534941216It doesn't really matter what the ratio of buyers to sellers is if no one can buy or sell. Unless we act all these houses will be given to h1b jeets.
>>534941216Does that mean this 1970's built garden home that may landlord thinks is worth $170k will drop to what its really worth?
Good. Hope it cascades into millions of bankrupt boomers. They can starve to death in their "investments."
>>534941216The housing market is controlled anon. If it started to collapse the fed reserve will just, "money printer goes brrrrrr." They will never allow a repeat of 2008 to happen again.Since banks are intimately connected to housing via 30 year mortgages, a collapse in housing is also a banking collapse. And the big banks cannot collapse! If they fail, then the entire US economy is going with them. And a collapse that big is not recoverable, especially with nearly 40 trillion debt.It would be the total end of American world supremacy.
>>534941216The stock market is at ATH. House prices only go up. America is winning. You lost, tranny
>>534942448I’m okay with that
It has to. Boomers and Investors have priced the young out of the market.
Year 17 of “there will be a housing crash this year”Good thing I bought in 2014. Even back then, people were still saying buying is stupid and if you just wait a year, things will crash. Lmao.
>>534941950they're just trying to scorch the earth before they leave. "It won't happen in my life time" "I won't be alive to see it." seems to be their mantra.
>>534941372Not as long as building supply costs continue to increase. Builders set the home prices not buyers.
>>534941528>the market suffers.How do you figure? Is this some advanced econ because basic econ shows if supply goes up and demand goes down then the price point also falls.
>>534942496You realize the Dow and other portfolios are just that... portfolios, they swap out winners and losers in that portfolio to make it as presentable as they can.
>generation's "wages are stagnatedThat hasnt changed you retard, only gotten worse. I suspect youre a faggot that already knows that
>They will never allow a repeat of 2008 to happen again.Implying their house of cards can be saved, lmao
>>534941923I don't think you'll see 2008 level delinquencies or defaults; it's mostly just boomers refusing to take a haircut and budge on price because they want their equity, so no one is interested in buying above market when there's clearly supply.
let's not forget the ~15mil vacant homes across the country and all the others used solely for the purposes of fictitious persons legal tender scams
>>534942764At some point boomers are going to take a hit. They wont all die before the consequences hit.
>>534941216>megatron This X account isnt even a good source.
Thing is, there's no law that forces those people to sell cheap. There are some instances where people have to sell NOW and they are willing to lower prices but the fact is most boomers/gen x's willing to move after selling would rather die in their home and give everything to the government than sell for less. Equity companies buying housing like stock are even worse because they can hold on to the stock like gold, we won't magically reduce price of land even if construction costs were lowered through technology.
>>534941216OH BOY A HOUSING CRASH ?SOMEHOW I DONT THINK YOULL GET WHAT YOU ALL WANT OUT OF THAT.
>>534942050you can extrapolate with polls, mostly through mortgage lenders or credit bureaus. if someone has a mortgage prequal then they are reasonably considered to be searching for a house
>>534942730He means that the 2008 financial crisis bank bailout was written to be automatic and ongoing so every bailout in the future doesn't get a congressional act and a news cycle. It just happens behind the scenes. The congressmen were very unhappy to be seen blatantly selling out their countrymen. So it won't happen again or rather it is still happening.
>>534942850Yep, they didn't see it coming. Boomers are the larhest, richest generation. It didn't cross their minds who they would be able to sell all their large, over priced, homes to?
>>534941216I'm not going to trust whatever the leader of the Decepticons says.
>>534942821You have been reported to the ADL for antisemitism
Yeah any minute now the house prices will crash zoomers, lol
>>534943011Boomers are the most short sighted brainwashed fools to ever live.
>>534941216Boomers want like 1.5 million for a shitty house in a mediocre neighbourhood.Might as well wait about 5-10 years for them to drop dead.Should have been nicer to your kids, now you're going to a nursing home where all the nurses are niggers.
>>534942997Its only behind the scenes to clueless idiots. So while no one realizes it because most people are idiots, doesnt mean it isnt obvious if you pay attention.Its a house of cards and a basic understanding of math makes it obvious.
>>534942050You make a poll where you ask the millions of retards paying $3K monthly rent to live in an NYC shitbox if "one day would you want to own property?"
>>534942050The same way you count unemployment
>>534943218Mine better be glad my brothers had children. Because they would be going in the cheapest home possible to die
>>534941216You're being antisemitic OP, if you can't afford a $350,000 house in 2026, you're just not fit to live in today's civilization. Do You think they just give away homes for free? Eileen Reimer, a 65 year old retired accountant from Atlanta, Georgia, is the winner of the HGTV Dream Home 2026, a prize package valued at over $2.4 million. You need to be like her and pick yourself up by your bootstraps. This generation is so lazy. /Thread
Anyone else stoked to see property insurance go up?Louisiana +58%Michigan +48%Virginia +37%Kentucky +33%Minnesota +29%Not even going to mention Florida (rip) 12% of homeowners are uninsuredNot to mention the general negative sentiment about the short term future, I don't think the argument for buying a house vs staying liquid is too great right now.
boomers will pass their houses down to their kids or let the banks take possession. the kids probably don't want the houses, definitely don't want to be a landlord as soon as they realize it requires them to respond to tenants, and will dump the houses on the market at low prices for quick salebanks don't want to manage rentals, so they will sell or auction houses and pass whatever cash remains to the boomer estates.
how come? you told me BLACKCOCK jews would buy everything
>>534942207Prices are still way up in my nigger filled city. Even ghetto small row houses are 200+k
>>534942207>no longer trueIt is still true
>>534941216Sorry sweaty there will be no housing crash. Boomers would rather rent out their homes then sell at below market value. having a 2% interest rate means the monthly mortgage cost is peanuts compared to what they'd get renting
>>534941216Housing market can't crash because Boomers all locked in ridiculously low interest rates.Because debt is also the anti-inflation play, they are incentivized to hodl forever, arbitrage interest rates with Government or other debt, pay off the mortgage as slowly as possible.The housing market will literally stay stagnant unless the 10Y drops to like 2%.Also Boomers want a capital loss on their homes so they can pay less in property tax.Millennials and Gen Z are just fucked. Even if the rest of the market has a correction, housing is permanently fucked.
>>534942207I'm buying now and everything in my area is still double plus tip, and anything reasonable is bought up within 5 hours.
>>534942318Boomers taking a loss to help another person. This nigger
>>534941216/pol/ dont care if mom cant sell her house...we mostly live in moms' bed or basement
>>534941923doubt. the amount of bad loans to data center projects will dwarf the amount of bad housing loans and make it look like an accidental scribble on the balance sheet
>>534941216(That’s a good thing)
>>534943546not even taking a loss, just not ripping people off as hard as they possibly can
>>534941528houses aren't a fungible commodity retard. a glut in shitty areas doesn't prices outside that area.
>>534943504This is a pretty good opportunity for alternative housing. If I had the seed money I'd start turning panel vans into stealth campers and selling them as housing and a car note in one payment. Average monthly car note is between $530-$812 and you could easily sell buyers on a small bump to eliminate a rent payment. Work with someone who has land and make it a "campground" that's a glorified trailer park for van living with access to showers and basic amenities.
>Ontario400k only gets the the land
>>534941216Cool anecdotes Bruce. Too bad prices aren’t budging.
>>534942078>they don't stop taxing at 300k just because your home's market value is worth 220kThey do if you contact your county PVA and dispute their appraisal, bring comps from recent sales in your vicinity and you can get your property tax bill cut. Probably works easier in red states.
>>534941851They cant just print more money, because it would devalue the loans theyre owed. Actually severe deflation would happen like after the civil war when silver was outlawed and the gold standard was implemented
>100 retards repliedThat posts 4 months old btw.
>>534941372I've crunched the numbers on the current evaluation of housing and the slave payou- I mean ((salary)) I should be able to afford a home and start a life when I'm at or close to 80.. So a 20% drop in a decade, should land me around 74.. Great age to start a family on. Might be an issue that my wife is in menopause though..
>>534943973and it's still relevant. want to find some twitter retard posting the same thing but more recently?
>>534941216A big issue is also the quality. All the cheap Mexican labor results in cheap homes
>>534941332it's called mortgage applications.. not that it matters when you have institutional investors with billions in cash
>>534944089builders can barely eek out a 10% profit per house on average, imagine the cost if these homes were constructed by people receiving a fair wage.
As an older guy who successfully navigated the 2008 housing crash, my advice to younger people is to not mistake the value of an asset as wealth, especially a house. A house should be purchased (and fit into your life) as shelter and a place to put your stuff/family, not as a store of value, since that value is not something you can extract at the time or amount of your choosing.
>>534943773>Cool anecdotes Bruce. Too bad prices aren’t budging.Prices are not budging because sellers have too much of their net worth invested in these places. Right now you can get better deals here and there as certain sellers get desperate. Boomers retiring and trying to downsize centered their plans on house value, but they never thought that in order get that value out, someone has to be willing to pay for it. They will have to sell over time in order to get what money they can.
>>534944323>Successfully navigated It's hopeless trying to educate you stupid niggers.
>>534944047No it's not a new fed chair is about to be installed which will raise the price of real estate by a lot, I am an investor I understand these things have my hand more on the pulse than some fucking loser who replies to half a year old posts by "megatron"
It's been "about to crash" for an entire fucking decade now. I've gone through two houses in the space it was "about to crash".
>>534944535These houses sold the last couple weeks. There’s only a couple hundred homes in this neighborhood. So they’re still selling. If you want to live around white people, you pay a premium.
>>534944535
>>534941216completely different situation to 2008. the problems that sunk the market in 2008 don't exist today at anywhere near the same level.we have more sellers than buyers because sellers all have 3% mortgages and buyers are facing 6.5%. sellers who are currently paying $2,000 a month mortgages are trying to sell to buyers who would pay $4,000 for the same house due to higher interest rates and higher home prices.What's happening right now with home prices is a battle between supply shortage pushing up housing prices (which is about 80% the result of excessive regulations that increase costs for builders) and high interest rates which put downward pressure on home prices. there's definitely not going to be a crash but home prices are going to keep going sideways or trending on a slight increase (probably equal to the rate of inflation plus a percent or two) unless there's a big move in either interest rates or changes to housing regulations
>>534942448>muh 2008It wasn't even a big price drop then. >before 08 shack 350k>in 09 shack 325k Muh crisis.
Young people don't have enough money to buy houses. END THE FED!
>>534944598I'm sure your mom believes you, if you still talk
>>534941216Won't matter. Green line must go up at the expense of everything else. Anyone who thinks they'll ever be able to get cheaper housing will never live to see it. Even during the housing bubble crash, how much did house prices ACTUALLY go down? like 10-20%? That's fucking nothing. And also irrelevant when such a crash also coincides with banks refusing to lend and charging higher interest rates. Meaning YOU CAN'T EVEN BUY THE DIP IF YOU WANTED TO because you'll never be approved for or be able to afford the mortgage anyway. We live in a boomertocracy. The majority of real estate sales are just boomers shuffling property around between one another. The younger generations are almost completely locked out.
>>534942207I live in bumfuck nowhere and housing prices have never stopped going up. A trailer falling apart on a rocky half acre costs $300k.
>>534941851They're gambling the price will go up again. If you're only paying $8k a year in property taxes, why sell for 500k this year when you could sell for 600k even five years from now? You'd still net more overall.
>>534941923I forgot, do you need cash to buy foreclosures? Or can you finance it?
>>534944561Idiot, there is nothing I said that your pic is in conflict with. I did not address anything about affordibility, at least directly; its about throwing money into something assuming its an appreciating asset that you can then easily extract that increased value out of at a later date. If your going to build your financial life around that, you assume the risk of not getting out of it what you put into it.If I was 20 again I would not even think about buying (or even living in) a house currently at the prices they sell for.
>>534944774the land is worth about 1 million in each of those cases
>>534941216Majority of those are where we don't want to live, by niggers and illegalsWinning!
>>534941216I believe. There is a house just up the road from me that is going for like 700k or 800k, something like that.. And this is just outside some rural hick town in PA, not fucking NYC or something.
>>534945251*I believe it.
>>534941216When the population shrinks people just move to the bigger cities, leaving ghost towns. Then the surplus of housing exists only on abandoned towns, the big cities stay crowded with a total decreasing population.i.e Ireland has less people today than in 1800, still has a housing shortage because everyone is in Dublin
>>534945169Not quite, but it is expensive land.
>>534944598We just had a 3.8% inflation print and the new fed chair is only 1/12 of the FOMC. He's not going to be able to cut rates even if he wants to. The market has gone from pricing in two .25 cuts in 2026 to zero cuts in 2026 and a possibility of a .25 rate hike in 2027 thanks to tarrifs and Iran war. You're gonna have to look somewhere other than monetary policy for optimism about prices because it's not happening anytime soon.
>>5349419232008 happened because banks were forced by the government to give mortgages to low income people, minorities especially.That's no longer the case. Prices should go down though.
>>534941216They're all renting. My last unit that went on market had so much interest there was a bidding war and I got offered 15% more than listing rent.
>>534941372> Not going to see another 2008I would agree except it’s obvious jewish bankers intentionally trigger massive inflation and credit deflation bubbles to buy all assets. Knowing their intentions, there must be a severe deflation event in the future before hyper inflation. This is inevitable.
>>534941216Its irrelevant to potential buyers if the market crashes by 50% but inflation goes up by 50%. Everyone gets raped
When will boomers realize they can't take their magically appreciating houses with them to hell?
>>534941216It's crashing upwards around here. Home values have basically doubled in the past few years
>>534941216nah it will be at most -1% in prices
>>534941483troon hands typed this
Doesn't matter for me living in northern New Jersey. A (((((starter home)))) is $750k and going ever upwards. Some towns in the Palisades Cliffs don't have a single non-apartment property listed for less than $875k.
>>534946030A bunch of those house bloomers have, have black mold or is so shitty. The ones livable are like half a million or more
>>534941332>>534941372>>534941216reminder kamala wanted to give niggers an upfront down payment on new homes, exactly what the clintons did which triggered the 08 crisis
>>534941713Your wife valued living where she's at more than making money. Perhaps you should consider that once you've already obtained your house, it's value is meaningless, and the important thing is where your social connections are.
>>534941216Well duh, the reason for the hanta virus thing is to shut down the economy like in 2019 to try and hold off a global implosion. It's their only play now that the oil is cut off.
>>534941216move to Florida, the housing market is perfectly fine down there.
>>534944878What jeet?Get the fuck off this board now.
>>534944914$300k is usually enough to get a normal house in places like that.
>>534943011What happened to the whole thing where big finance was buying them for above asking prices? Over here it was companies like Blackrock and Vanguard.
>>534941528>implying blackrock won't pay cash for another 600k homes
>>534944146Wouldn't be a need to build new houses if there weren't 100+ million foreign scum in our borders.
>>534941216Calling bullshit. Maybe they built one too many of those massive subdivisions in some bumfuck parts of South Dakota, but major urban areas are all still booming for real estate
>>534946837that's highway robbery for a place in the middle of nowhere.
>>534941851you're gonna have to pay me to take the houses off of these boomer faggots' hands.I'm just not gonna pay property taxes, that's all
>>534941904Remember when lefties, likee, were saying that this was the end game, and we were called sore loser commies who were jealous of success, and you continued to vote against your own iterwt to own the libs?Yeah. How's that working out for you?
>>534941483because its just a bunch of subhuman boomer/genxer and foreigner motherfuckers left holding the bag after they bought up a bunch of "investments" in 2020.I hope they all fucking rot, fucking flippers.
>>534941216not gonna happenthey are just printing money and giving it to cryptogovernment financials like Blackstone to buy up everything to keep the scam goingthey cannot let real estate tank before China's tanks
>>534944323based.
>>534944027you WISH this was you
>>534941216Good
>>534941216Aren’t women like buying up all the homes while the male homeless population rises and women would never stoop to providing for a man? Kek.
>>534942207>chart before the DOOOOMMPPPP
>>534941483Usually this is how it works, but if you’ve tried to buy a corvette in the last 10 years you’ll understand why prices aren’t going down. The same retarded “I know what I have” boomers that are selling a 2006 Corvette for $30,000 firm because that’s what they think it’s worth are now doing the same thing with houses. They will hoard and will not budge until they die despite paying more than the difference in property taxes.
Too late for me. Im 32 and got laid off 6 months ago.My girlfriend left me because I wanted to go back to college so I could maybe afford a house. I live with my parents in a hoarder house. I went back to college but it probably won't matter for shit. I have 70 grand in savings. I'd happily buy a tiny home but they all are trailer rentals with a fucking 458 dollar a month HoA fee. I have a new gf but she's not white so I can't marry her, even though she treats me better than white women ever did. Want to text my white ex all the time because I miss her. If I'd owned a home she might still be with me. I'm too burnt out to fucking care anymore. >>534941372That sounds even more nightmarish.
>>534946449>Perfectly fineFlorida is the number one place where housing prices are crashing right now, it had one of the highest rises in price state-wide due to all the migration and investment into the state, but said migration / investment created an environment where house prices FAR outpaced income growth. Add onto this rising insurance.Florida is the single worst place right now to buy a house and is literally crashing the hardest, it's following the Florida cycle that it always does>Everything is cheap>Wave of migration and investment makes everything expensive>Everything crashes and becomes cheap again>New wave of investmentThis happens continuously for florida, turns out having a house in a humid area with high insurance cost isn't cost-effective for most people over the long term. There are continuous waves of buying up or selling off, much faster than the rest of the USA.Granted, in a year or two yes that's a good time to buy florida real estate, now it's in the middle of its massive downturn and will soon be affordable again.Typically housing crashes start down south and migrate up to the north (where stock historically moves slower and thus gets hit with the wave slower.)>>534947622>Until they dieNot possible anymore>As of late 2025, the median age of all U.S. homebuyers has reached a record high of 59 years oldThe median homebuyer is actually just someone 5 years away from retirement >The typical U.S. home seller in 2025 is 64 years oldThe median seller is 1 year from retirement.So basically they already are doing mass sell-offs, but the only buyers that can afford it are people 5 years away from retirement. These people are 60 years old and looking to downsize though, so the big boomer mansions simply aren't viable for them. A 60 year old buyer is typically looking for something small in a nice neighborhood with no stairs to retire in, they aren't buying up to bigger houses - and a 65 year old seller is selling a big house.
>>534946198I wish she'd won now. That's the kind of chaos I wanted Drumpf to cause. Oh well, I fell for it again.
>>534947797>typing all this shitfuck off
>>534941372>Not gonna see another 2008Literally delusional, you believed real estate agent hype.>Average buyer age is 60, seller age is 64We are gonna see the biggest crash ever seen in the history of housing, both buying and selling have become something retired people do and they're not trying to acquire bigger and better houses. It's just gonna be a gigantic money crunch, 50% drop bare minimum. Most people on their pensions actually can't afford their 3,000 square foot 4 bedroom house in a high COL area, it's all going down the drain.>>534947922I've been watching the housing market more closely than anyone on this board probably, reddit-anon. You should be quiet and say thank you.
>>534946837how many niggers are nearby?that's literally one of my biggest concerns. imagine being stuck with a house that's basically impossible to live in because there are niggers, wiggers, whatever next door. i don't know what happened since 2019 but i've lived in rented apartments all my life and since then i've had maybe 6 months of quiet in my place, every over time there have been niggers living above or next to me. even now that my rent is 1200€/month, when i thought that surely a jacked up price would keep the lowlife retards at bay - nope, not in a city where average rents are twice that. at the very least the threat of losing their apartment keeps them at bay though because good fucking luck finding another one, especially this nice, when the landlord kicks you out for being a niggerish troublemaker.i'm glad that i will inherit a small apartment from my grandmother and mother. i don't see house ownership in my future unless i luck out with a successful business.tl;dr these days you gotta be rich enough to stay away from niggers of all colors. and even among normies and whites the number of niggers keeps rising.
>>534945416>2008 happened because banks were forced by the government to give mortgages to low income people, minorities especially.You actually believe this shit stopped happening, you cannot be this fucking stupid.
>>534942207Mortgage rates have gone from 3 to 6% in that same time period, and nobody's hiring, so house prices have once again actually doubled.
>>534941216That feeling when bought at peak. At least my property tax will go down.
>It's happening!Source some jeet hiding behind a memeflag posting some jeet's twitter feed.
>>534941216I heard that in 2008When it happens and the market tanksBuy stocks at rock bottom pricesI took advantage of 2008 & 2020 market declinesThe market has come back with a Vengeance each timeI’m retired nowWhat will you do?
>>534941216if they really wanted to sell, they'd lower the prices. worth is determined based on demand
>>534944783This is the real estate agent party line, what's actually happening>Buyers are 59, sellers are 64>Nobody can buy at these prices because the 64 year olds are selling big houses with high upkeep cost, but 59 year olds want to buy a small house with low upkeep (and they want to sell their big house)>Supply and demand mismatch in the existing market leaves nobody to buy all these big houses>Nonfarm hires have been declining for the past 5 years, so nobody younger is getting hired for jobs, they can't buyBuyer demand is nonexistent and the current market is literal 59 year olds trying to buy from people 5 years older. Demand is essentially zero, supply is essentially infinite.
>>534948136lmao at those poor fools who didn't get a mortgage at 2.5% rates and bought a house at 20% discount off the asking price in late 2020.
>>534946837That pr ie will be cut moar this yearWashington It sucks
>>534941216something something, price gouging laws.
>>534941216Have they tried lowering the asking price?
>>534948063Almost no niggers. It's like 40% Mexican. I think there are farms in the area.
>>5349461982003 was when all the high interest rate loans started going out to niggers I think
>>534941332this. back in mah day, buyin a hawse was agreeded on a good firm handshake and nuthin else
>>534941216Don't care my other houses are rentals and rents not going down
>>534943756I think millennials and zoomers are going to retire in communes due to lack of money, homes and not getting married. If I had the money I would start buying up acres of cheap land and building cheap studios on them
>>534948855this, parasites are never worried
>>534948683>I think there are farms in the area.based.
>>534942050I would assume just by asking people.The housing market is pretty much the biggest financial market to ever exist so it's extremely closely tracked. Look where the money is, they know exactly what the demand is and what's happening.They know that pending home sales have crashed to 2008 levels.
>>534941216Here's the fucking problem though: None of these houses trying to be sold are 1 bed 1 bath, or 2 bed 1 bath, or anything like that. They're all huge.So we might find ourselves in a situation where there are LOADS of houses for sale, but they're all too fucking big and expensive for anyone but investors to buy.The U.S. housing market has evolved so people buy as big and expensive as humanly possible because "it's an investment". It's only an investment if someone can buy it. But now we have MULTIPLE generations of people that cannot afford it. There is a glut of million dollar properties and a lack of starter homes.And just to indulge some fantasy, let's say the boomers were forced to sell their million dollar properties to Millennials/GenZ/etc at a price they could actually afford. Do you have any idea how expensive home maintenance is? Properly maintaining a million dollar property is a nightmare. Unless you're already rich, you don't want an expensive house.tl;dr shit's fucked and my prediction is that renting a room in a large house owned by Blackrock is going to be the default option even for adults going forward.
>>534949043woops looks like you capped out civilization again, gotta import more thirdies
>>534941216So what you're saying is thats 630k more homes to Blackrock for over asking price.
>>534949097>They're all huge.And they're made of matchsticks.Want a simple brick ranch house with a basement? A modest Usonian-style home with small but functional bedrooms? Double (or more) in terms of $/square foot
>>534949174unfortunately this. they're just going to artifically create more demand for housing by>importing thirdies>unleashing investment firms to snatch up property
>>534949262I wouldn't buy a modern house anyway, I'd just build my own.
>>534941332>house BUYER listingsGr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
>>534941216Not going to happen. Boomers will croak before they lower their price on their homes. They would rather literally die instead of lowering the price and selling to a family for less. Blackrock will buy them all and have a permanent rentoid slave class. Houses will be only for the upper class, everyone else toils away at mcwagecuck jobs while supporting their own enslavement because Blackrock will take their money and invest it into ever more assets and properties and investing in AI to replace wagecucks and lock them out of the economy forever. If we had a functional government we might have a chance but America is almost certainly headed into Varoufakis style techno-feudalism where tech lords will literally own huge plots of land and have wagies toil for them like company towns. They are already building the “campuses” where if you get fired you lose your job, your livelihood, and you are evicted and banished from their fiefdom forever. Jeets will of course gleefully flood in to do this.
>>534949097>Renting a room owned by blackrockClose, owned by family members, or turning those massive mansions into duplexes, basically an increase in median household size is coming. We're in the first decade where it increased (it always trended down as people made more money), now people are moving back in with family or turning historically single-family into multi-family.Many of those big houses actually can be split up into two easy, since the standard is now 4 bedroom two bathroom. This alone would nearly cut the price of housing in half, relatively speaking.
>>534941713I’m in nj so the whole covid blowup missed us. It’s just gone up the normal 3-4% every year. Probably won’t go down at all.
>>534941216It's been over since people started paying 3-4 times what they "Bought" the house for after 30 years of compounding interest from Jew Banks.Hitler was right - TKD.
>>534947977Nope you're wrong, the problem is that rents are too cheap right now.https://youtu.be/whvz3jjUIbY?si=MBWPhw_E4KR_f-FS
>>534941216It will be when people realize pouring 100k into a house in the last 10 years doesn't guarantee you 100k.
>>534949618the normal 3-4% every year on top of the 400%
>>534949492If truly DIY, based.Otherwise, good luck finding an honest contractor.
>>534941528the number going down isn't the market sufferingi am the market, and i want the number to go down. i want a house, get out of my way.
>>534949857There's literally no reason for modern faggot housing industry to even exist anymore, people can make higher quality shit on their own with better longer lasting materials and the houses wont look all the same, imagine that
>>534942655wow anon your so smart I'm glad that this is a recent thing and not something that has been going on for several years now, we should just wait till the current boomers who hold all the houses just lower the price surely a certain investment firm wont buy them up after the sellers can't find suitable buyers.im glad we have smart people like you anon
>>534949959so leave any city that doesn't provide housing? they obviously are mostly run by incompetent nigger women now
>>534942850I have early boomer uncles sitting on multiple properties that my cousins will dump for cash as soon as they croak. There’s a supply overhang and the early boomers dying and their kids cashing out will tank the market for later boomers. It’s like pottery.
>>534947737If the non white gf treats you well and is reliable stick it out with her mate. Trust me.
>>534941372>Not going to see another 2008 You have no idea what's coming.
>>534942050Housing offers? Loan applications? You don’t just walk up and buy a house with a wad of cash.
>>534950745jew detected
>>534941216>Thinking it's gonna crashNigger, it's never going down. BIllionaires will buy out property for what's chump change to them, and rent it to you. For fees that make you be just slightly above poverty.
>>534949492You'll still be paying out the ass even if you DIY a quality home.Better to find a house built in the '50s-'70s and renovate unless money is no object.
>>534951007Enjoy replacing your asbestos insulation.
>>534947447People who bought in 2020 aren’t selling because they have insanely good 2.5 percent mortgages you fucking retard. Why would i double my payment for a couple hundred thousand of equity? Especially right now when liquid is useless?
>>534944884>We live in a boomertocracy. The majority of real estate sales are just boomers shuffling property around between one another. The younger generations are almost completely locked out.Cry more loser, I'm 46 and just bought a 2nd home(for a rental)
>>534947737Don't sacrifice owning a home for college unless you have connections that can find you work in the field you're interested in. Especially if you have enough for a significant down-payment.I made the mistake of going back to school at 30 believing merit still had value and am stuck with no home and a worthless degree and paid ~$100k in rent + tuition and expenses going that route.
>>53495105712 dollar gasmask. now will i tell my new neighbors its absestos im clearing with a sledgehammer and a leafblower? lmao no
>>534951312Oh neat, you own a second home and are able to collect money from a renter without losing most/all of it to a mortgage/property taxes/maintenance?Good job paying cash!
>>534951312>46>on 4chanoof grim. shouldnt you be window shopping for coffins?
>>534951057In general, if you don't mess with it, you don't have to worry about it.Just take proper precautions if you renovate instead of being a retard and ripping and running.It's also not in every home built before 1980.My parents owned a solid 1960s house and the only asbestos was pipe-wrap coming off the hot water tank.Same with my grandparents' house built in the '30s.
>>534951581Not as old as that guy yet, but I will still come here as long as this website is up and I don't give a fuck what you think about that you cringey little leftist faggot. Get hit by a bus today.
>>534941851A lot of them can’t sell it cheaper because they bought at an inflated price during covid due to lower rates. They would be taking tens if not hundreds of thousands in losses depending on what market they are in and the home price. Many people have the false belief that real estate only increases in value. It’s all depending on when you enter and exit if it is profitable.
>>534951945If it has vermiculite it probably has asbestos, but yeah you’re right: if you don’t mess with it it’s not really an issue. Stay safe ameribro.
>>534942207>House costs have been flat basically since post-covid crazynessYeah because sellers are refusing to lower prices and just remove their home from the market if it sits for too long, and then try again later.
>>534952750I have seen this in my market for well over a year. They list it at a stupid high price, remove it when it doesn’t sell after 6 months, then repost it at the same inflated price 3 months later lmao. Anything that is priced accurately is sold within about 3 days it seems.
>>534941473Kek
>>534952922You can blame these "Realestate Websites". You used to have to talk to a local realtor and go visit a listing. Now you're competing with the whole world that can go to a website and "Sort by Cheapest" then buy it up as an "Investment"They exist to scrape up listings and they hide anything under a certain market value so they can buy it and flip it. That's how they make money.
>>534948953Enjoy the stench of pigshit, cow shit and turkey shit
>>534954018better than niggers
>some home owners in liberal mega cities want out, but their homes have dropped in value because people are getting shot in the streets and there are homeless encampments everywhere and nobody will move into a progressive areaThat's all this is, a couple hundred thousand? It's a blip in the radar, there are 375+ million people here lol.Every day the shills post about how the housing market is tanking, but this is only true if you live in some Democrat-run shit hole progressive large city.
>>534954974It's like this but magnified 10x in burgerland. The real cost of living in america is far greater than any average metric shows, because if you don't want to live around niggers (aka, the bare minimum standard) you have to pay out the ass
>>534953328not really true, fixers are mostly sold off market, the stuff you see posted on zillow is all the stuff the flippers/corporations passed on. they're fixers but priced like they aren't. >>534952922truth. the average sold price is biased because of this, only the best properties sell and they sell the first weekend they're listed
>>534941372Hahahaha
>>534955329https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmSi7WzC5ic
>>534941372Lmao so while the total value of our currency goes down 30 to 40% in the span of 10 years, the homes will becomes cheaper
>>534941216WHY ISN'T IMMIGRATION RAISING DEMAND!?!?!?
>>534950325>Jewish opinion Retard
>>534955329That's not true either, you can live cheap away from the big areas. But if you are more of an employee than a yeoman, you won't do so well.Natural born employees need to stay close to their mother hens for sure.
>>534941332Based. this metric makes no sense, to list your house you need to sign a contract, do photos, negotiate with realtor etc...to say youre "buying a house" requires no commitment, many people are thinking yeah they want to buy in the next year or so but its meaningless. Also i work in real estate and in my area there is still a shortage of supply, IE the total number of houses sold in the last year far exceeds the number actively for sale by 3-5x.This is just doomer "market crash" propaganda which is has been repeated ad nauseum for like 7+ years now
>>534941216Your mom has a large gap between her legs.
>>534941216a $1500 escrow note will cover 208k loan at 6% interestat 4% interest, that's more like 290kboomers are asking for 450k for a double wide on an acre in rural LouisianaI ain't budging till prices come down 30+% or interest comes down.
>>534955606100% accurate, kek. Fascinating seeing russians explaining american social dynamics like it's an academic lecture
>>534941216>xitter retard screencapThis is stupid. It's the same thing as usual where there is no inventory and insane prices anywhere people actually want to live. But if course there are localized areas with excess inventory where no one wants to live. There are zero actual indicators that the US market as a whole is about to collapse somehow though.
>>534941216>bought a nice house for $350k >turn on the news>dur you fucked up>muh top of the market>muh crash>muh covid>muh rate hikes>muh cumsooomer debt to income ratiomeanwhile, back in reality>rent for a 2 bed shithole apartment is now $2500 here >neighbor just sold his for $770k>I get letters in the mail constantly offering me shitloads of cash to refi and super low interest lines of credit >rentoid friends are all struggling and bitching about their meany McPoopiepants kike landlord raising the rent and never fixing anythingWaitfags BTFO over and over and over and over. They never get tired of losing and being wrong. Please consult the chart in pic related. If you ever think something will happen, it won't. How many times must we remind you?I thank god every day I don't take financial advice from twitter. I'd probably be sitting here doomposting about muh rentoid uprising and muh buyer to seller ratio shit too. Imagine being such a fuckin loser that your only shot at owning a pile of sticks and stucco is for the largest and most stable economy in the world to suffer a catastrophic collapse. Thats really sad man I'll be honest.
>>534955606L M A OMAOThey already have that in chinkland though.Six days a week 12 hours a day in the factory or you get organ harvested.
>lol
>534956461>realtor kikes are so desperate they have to spout demoralization propaganda on /pol/ of all places
>>534948445> t. guy locked in to some shitty house he can never sell and will die inYeah you're winning bruh
>>534956621Just a chad who knows bestAnd id love a housing crash because I already own 1 and wouldn't mind having a few rental units or just buying a bigger house with a pool. unfortunately its not going to happen
cost 10 dome per white male < unkraine war or iran war or tax money on education 1 year
>>534947737>Want to text my white ex all the time because I miss her.>If I'd owned a home she might still be with me.Bro, she's with Tyrone now. Move on. I'd be happier than shit with a fish head wife if I were you.
>>534956383he even gets the "good school" euphemism in real estate
People need a home to live, there's more and more people, homes need permits to be built, and the govt doesnt want to issue those permits, because a scarcity of homes allows boomers to get more money from younger generations.Trump made it very clear that he will never allow this to change.Meanwhile imbeciles get ecstatic over some news of maybe prices dropping a bit. Kek. The whole system is profoundly rotten and needs a reset. Nothing will get better until the west is entirely collapsed and then starts to rebuild with a different mentality. You idiots.
>>534943504Most actual boomers have their homes fully paid off because they bought them 30-40 years ago. The people that don't want a crash the most are, ironically, Millennials. Right not five in nine millennials own a home. The problem is the ones that do all got it between 2010 and 2020 and interest rates were low but actual costs were high. So they're on the hook for a large amount of stable debt. If they sell they need a high price to pay off the high debt, as well as have a big down payment for a new home, because interest rates are higher now. Millennials more than the other living generations have a very stark divide between the haves and have nots. The ones that did get jobs and get into the housing market are doing very, very well, but the ones that didn't are doing very, very poorly and unlike Gen Z, have less time to fix their problems.
>>534941216Lowest will be in a year or two but inflation is going to be a bitch. You have until 2036 to lock something in before you use literally anything else than the USD to make purchases. We still won't be done with the boomer retirement crisis too.
>>534948073I think I just became part blackWashington's Covenant Homeownership Program provides down payment and closing cost assistance (up to $150,000) to Washington residents, specifically targeting communities harmed by historical housing discrimination. Applicants must be first-time homebuyers, meet income requirements (up to 120% of area median income), and be descendants of people living in Washington before 1968 who were part of specific racial groups.Key Program Details for 2026Targeted Groups: Eligible individuals include Black, Hispanic, Native American, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, other Pacific Islander, Korean, or Indian individuals who were subjected to discriminatory housing covenants.Assistance Type: The program offers zero-interest, secondary loans.Loan Forgiveness: Low-income borrowers (at or below 80% of the AMI) may qualify for complete loan forgiveness after five years.
>>534941216>OP memeflag 1 pbtid
>>534942050Closing on the sale of a home takes several weeks and involves a bunch of local, state, and federal tax shit. Home buyers are probably the most documented consumer in the nation, because every level of government has a hand reached out for your money. This stuff is all public record as well, so it is trivial to find out how many active home purchases are occurring at any given moment.
>>534941216>the sellers in question want 5 million for termite hive cardboard boomer mcmansion boxeshave you tried dying of not being able to afford healthcare about it? :)
>>534942050>hey im in the market for a home >okay just speak to a real estate agent >agent lists you as a potential buyer There you go
>>534941216>house gets older>price keeps going upThis has to stop.
>>534962748Niggers never understand it's the cost to replace that drives price per sqft. Where I live you can't build new unless you got a minimum of like 530k
>>534963101>plywood and 2x4's are expensiveKek, Fucking kek!
>>534945416>That's no longer the case. Biden brought that back.
>>534963277It's not funny, you come off as a sad illiterate nigger whatev
>>534962748>population goes up>housing gets more expensiveThis makes no sense, can someone explain this to me?
>>534943351>Not even going to mention Florida (rip) My heating bill sucks, but at least its not going up exponentially
>>534943354You're forgetting about the third option: boomed plans to give it to kids, but strokes out and spends 6 months in Hospice at 20k a month and medicare claws back the house to recoup costs
fucking baggies lol
>>534964093These are, like, the baggies of all baggies. The omega baggie. The most illiquid baggies you ever seen.
>>534944561>Annual income is average, not median.
>>534946937institutional investors are restricted from buying single family homes
>>534945416>Prices should go down though.Supply is stagnant if not actively diminishing in many areas. A huge percentage if our housing stock is cardboard shacks thrown up during the baby boom after WWII and those things are crumbling to dust. Meanwhile commie Karens have infested permitting and zoning boards nationwide and refuse to allow a new house to be permitted for less than $50k in fees In some markets its over $100k in fees per unit, and that's not even counting the insane "inclusionary zoning" shit where they force developers to build 1 dedicated welfare unit for every 5 market rate units in their building then five them to the city/county for free so they can stick some crackhead in there forever
>>534941216Just in certain parts of the country, some places are seeing house values go up while new housing developments are being constructed in corn fields. They can’t build them fast enough for demand.
I unironically want commieblocks at this point.
>>53494269199% of Americans are not aware of this. It would be like dynamic grading on a test in school where all the wrong answers are thrown out and only right answers are counted.
>>534964430best thing that could happen is SEA-tier apartment malls
>>534944027>I should be able to afford a home and start a life when I'm at or close to 80but i thought sweden was le socialist paradise?
Meanwhile in the DMV homes are still selling for $200k over ask. No one cares about a crash in Alabama.
>>534941372The crash already happend... it will creep back to normal levels of growth by this fall. Buyers can only hold out for so long. And sellers are rather settled into the norms by now. The unpredictable thing I can see happening is that people who are itching to buy will flood the market one spring and fall season and cause another chaos market. Plus the new federal reserve chair has already said he's going to lower interest rates...
>>534944843This time around the world market has very low birth rates in all developed countries. Developing countries have gone down to around six children per woman so they won't be able to supply the world too much longer as they continue implementing birth control and give women legal privileges. The year is 2026, if you forgot. That means for the USA there has been 18 years of low births since 2008. And it's getting worse. And the countries we can still draw from are either in the same boat or have very different cultures. That means the Empire won't last too many more decades.
>>534941851have you ever met a boomer?
>>534942207>no longer true...To enjoy the same purchasing power that my minimum wage ($4.25) job afforded my in 1993 I have to charge my customers ~$95/hour today. If I would like to enjoy the same purchasing power that a minimum wage job provided for boomers in 1970 I would have to charge my customers ~$215/hour.
I've already accepted I'm going to be a rent-serf for the rest of my life. It's not all bad, I mean I'm descendant from serfs anyways. The American dream only briefly existed anyways.
>>534943354Most boomers will die in debt after they spend their reverse mortgage money on the nursing home.
>>534944783Outlawing mortgages solves this.
theyre going to crash the market, then buy more up for pennies on the dollar, like 08
>>534943354Banks sit on homes and pay for bare minimum upkeep because they are assets to be used as leverage for other investments. They are not eager to sell, there are hundreds of thousands of empty, bank owned homes.>t. property inspector
>>534949783>renters will crash the 2026 housing market.kek
>>534941216Millennial here. I can’t wait to watch boomers get fucked over. I have sat for 20 years as houses get further and further out of reach. Fuck ‘em
>>534950745>You don’t just walk up and buy a house with a wad of cash.With a big enough wad of cash you can.
>>534942577>It has toNo it doesn't. If demand for housing starts to collapse and housing prices start to tank too much, then they will open the gates to hoards of shit skins to boost demand. They will not let housing prices going down!
>>534947447I bought my first home in 2020. Locked in at 2.75% for 30 years. I’m going to die in this home so a market collapse doesn’t bother me at all. This is only gonna fuck Air BnB boomers and there’s no group that deserves it more.
>>534952074>A lot of them can’t sell it cheaperOf course they can. Just because they overpaid doesn't mean some other sucker will.
>>534941216Big lenders can issue enough currency to buy up 100% of the supply if they want. Then they can set price and rent at any number they want. I wish we could see substantial reduction in the buy and rent prices but that would take a massive reduction in population and currency printer investment.
>>534942850>At some point boomers are going to take a hit.Disgusting fucking evil generation. I hope their grotesque blight goes to hell forever!
>>534959306>homes need permitsWhy are communists like this?
>>534941216I live in an upper middle class neighborhood, and there are TWO homes that have been abandoned. The HOA is going nuts because of the weeds, but the owner just walked away. I think you’ll start seeing that start to happen when people paid 7 to 800k for a 3 bedroom house.
>>534967561Not just boomers but flippers too. You the guys who buy a house from a bank auction and fix it up a bit then sell at 10 times what they paid, rinse and repeat.
>>534941216lol, my home went up another $40k this year. It’s not slowing down day time soon.
>>534941332
>>534968346if the bank didn't cut you a check for 40k then your home value didn't really go up in any meaningful way
>>534945027Theoretically you can, but it's a lot more difficult. 90% of the time they are put up as a cash auction. The only way you'd be able to get financing is if there was an entire neighborhood full of foreclosures.
>>534968272If a home flipper buys a house, thus taking on all the risk, takes it from being a disaster with major code violations to being an acceptable up to date home in compliance with modern code, and even makes it look nicer, then relists the home for sale for a price that counts for the cost of building material, cost of labor, and a small amount of profit, what's the issue? It costs like $200k to renovate a house top to bottom, and can take 6 months to a year. So a flipper makes a $100k profit for a year of work, that seems fair to me
>>534941851He is saying he doesn't want to do the same shit that caused the 08 crash, a bunch of broke niggers buying houses they could not afford and defaulting.
>>534942207Lol even if you were making $300k you're still earning less than an entry line factory worker in 1964.
>>534968346>lol my home went up 40k>but all the houses I would buy went up 200k>this is a good thing
>>534969924Flippers don't do that. Actually renovating a near tear-down isn't something flippers have the skill set or budget for. They just paint it grey and add 30% to the price.
>>534941372nigger detected
>>534945416biden reintroduced that. banks MUST lend to niggers, even if their credit is too bad to get 5 monthly klarna payments approved for a hamburger
>>534952040eat shit, migger
Boomers know what they've got, and they won't sell their 3 bedroom 1500 square food starter home for any less than $700k. If you won't buy it, then you can wait until it's repossessed by the state to pay for the Boomers alzheimer care, and then you can buy it from whatever Blackrock-tier jew got it in a deal with the state for $50k. He will give you a fair deal of $850k. This is the greatest country ever and don't you forget it.
>>534955606jesus, that video is gold
>ctrl+f jew>1/7
damn that sucksanyways...
>>534973154Pure gold! Black gold
>>534941216>>534941332>>534941372>>534941483I WILL ONLY PAY FULL PRICE IF THERE'S NIGGER, SPICS, AND RAJEETS LIVING SIDE BY SIDE IN PEACE AND UNITY AND ULTRA VIOLENCE BLICK W/ SWITCH FULLY AUTOMATIC ILLEGAL FIREARMS THANKS FBI THANKS ATF YOU GUYS MADE THE MAJOR CITIES REAL FUCKING SAFE YOU STUPID FAGGOTS I HOPE YOU GET DRAFTED INTO ISRAEL // IRAN LIKE THE RUSSIAN GOLEM IN UKRAINE YOU STUPID GOYMEN ;3 HAVE A GOODNIGHT <3 <3 MUHAAA
>>534941216some chud has said this already but some properties are just not sellablelike no one will move to middle of nowhere with 0 job opportunity, even for free
>>534974788Some nowheres are more attractive than others, but it all takes money, which is currently getting vacuumed up by kikes at an accelerating rate.
>>534941216It's kinda funny. There are two houses for sale on my street by boomers who have lived there for decades and saw what houses were going for during peak demand during COVID when the rates had bottomed out. They're trying to sell for even more than what their homes would have been worth at that point, except there's now absolutely no interest. Nobody is buying and they refuse to lower the price. I don't know what the fuck sort of miracle they're waiting for, but they ain't selling for 4x what their house was worth 8 years ago and that doesn't seem to sink in.
>>534974612>these are American blacks>a completely different people>a catastrophe
>>534941483The home prices absolutely do need to come down. I just keep watching boomers complain that they can't find a buyer when their 1960s homes are listed for 4x what they would have sold for 8 years ago and they refuse to go down.
>>534944561They're HOUSES, not "homes," you unmitigated RealtorSpeakFag.
>>534975095He's not 100% correct about every last little thing but he's so close, and so funny, and says things in such a bald-faced no-nonsense Russian say that no American ever would, that it's both comedy gold and like dissertation-level analysis (from say the 1920s before there were blacks in graduate school lol )
>>534970574Seen this done too many times then the house sits for years not selling. Flippers are fucking scum man.
>>534974920i just dont see itliving in an ultra isolated place seems like torture to me, anything other than a small city 100k minimum
>>534975271>If there are no blacks here, it's safekekyeah...fuckin great vid... way better than all the other shit that's posted since they self censor and just suck
>>534975014The lead poisoning is real. And even without the environmental retardants, I'm reminded of little end-of-a-civilization moments like some Bronze Age China empire whose currency became worthless but you can still find vaults of these green copper coins--hundreds of thousands of them --that chuds buried when they thought they were going to be living the high life.
>>534941807Why not both?
>>534975425Because it's in Russian Jewtube hasn't managed to delete it yet lol
>>534946029Good lord, you're too stupid to maintain a house, never mind work toward owning one.
>>534975425> Blacks can't walk 20 kilometers, rob you, and get home in time before the sun comes up kek
>>534947511Kek, fuck you. When I hit the family formation era mortgages were 18% and the job base was entirely gutted by "deindustrialization"/globo. Had to wait till I was 43 for the numbers to work TO MY SATISFACTION. Socked away a ton of money while waiting, made a big downpayment in a down housing market, voila. > NO MOMMY I WANT IT NOW> GIMME NOW OR I'LL HAVE A MELTDOWN IN THE STORE AISLE
>>534975384Some of the most beautiful places in Greece are in the middle of nowhere.
>>534975715thats true but what even is there to do there
>>534975996What you need to ask yourself is what you really want to do, no matter where you are.
>>534976128shit
