Communism is the obvious moral good and as things continue to get worse more and more people will come to this realization.
>>534950340No, thievery is wrong, you worthless fucking faggot.
Communism doesn't tap the potential of people that believe in get rich quick schemes and will work themselves likes slaves in the name of having their own business.
>>534950880Yes and I'm tired of getting stolen from by my bank, my boss and my government. >hurrr you hate the rich stealing from you but you want to use the government to take back from the rich, hypocrite much????
>>534950340Communism is identical to late stage capitalism both a controlled economy statecorporation ran by a small elite while the prole "equally" own nothing. Its a trick by the bourg so petty bourg office faggots (average commie) and actual labour producing proletariaat (average conservative) speedrun towards LSC willingly. Only midwits get filtered by this simple truth
>>534950340>endless immigration fucking countries up>communism will fix it
>>534950880i agree, so why are you paying interest?
>>534951456Basically true. I see Capitalism as the springboard to Communism. Both heads on the same kosher body.
>>534950340The thing is, i actually have no problems with communism IN THEORY. If everything was implemented the way the idealists would want it, it would probably be an okay system. However, the reason why communism doesn’t work isn’t communism itself, its that it’s incompatible with human nature. There will always be a hierarchy in society. Someone has to allocate the resources in a communist society. That person will always, without fail, be corrupted by people who want more resources, or by their own greed. It happens every single time communism is tried, with exactly zero exceptions.
>>534950340no you dumb woke faggot retard leftiecunt it's National Socialism you fucking newfag
Fascist Italy and National Socialist Germany were way better than the Soviet Union and responsible for less deaths. You only care about Jewish lives.
Capitalism always decays into Late Stage Capitalism. The Elite know that human vice is the most y precious resource. In their search for more power and wealth, they inevitably produce and promote products centered around human vice: alcohol, drugs, sex, etc al. This has the effect of social decay and weakness. Over time, the society wakes up and demands a change and end to Capitalism. Here, the Communist enters the scene. But hus system produces the same Elite class. Only now called the Intellectual Class. Capitalism and vice peddling is dead, not because the Intellectual class is virtuous, but because they don't need to acquire power in the background, behind pornography and addiction. Instrad, they control the society openly using Big Government.
>>534950880>No, thievery is wrongunless Trump is doing it lol
>>534952681>There will always be a hierarchy in society. Someone has to allocate the resources in a communist society. That person will always, without fail, be corrupted by people who want more resources, or by their own greed.This happens in liberal democracies too, which we're seeing right now in USA. You're right that capital market systems tend to be more flexible with resource allocation than governments. I don't think you can truly "plan" an economy, at least not from scratch. Markets need to stabilize on their own before you start throwing regulation at it.
>>534950340Humans are too corrupt to do communism irl. It never works out, treats some people like slaves, then collapses.
ok thengo join a commune
>>534950880Don't tell them that they'll start crying that they can't have free money they didn't work for from people they deem "evil" (middle class +). Which they then would want to use to live middle class + lives kek.
>>534950340Cosmism aesthetics are wasted for you faggotsNo communist will ever allow for off-world colonies because sidereal distances don't allow for ideological enforcement.
>>534954726Why are you shitting on poor people hypothetically stealing from you under communism, and not shitting on the rich people who are actually stealing from you right now?
>>534950340Nah. People aren’t equal to each other and will never be equal. Yes, most of the class separation is enforced by the capitalist system that takes advantage of the workers, but you can’t expect a 6’4 man to think he is equal to someone who is 5’6. Also, any part of the government that enforces the law needs to have power above the class of people protected by that law so the only realistic outcomes are total anarchy where the biggest and strongest can take advantage of the weak or a police state.
>>534955203>but you can’t expect a 6’4 man to think he is equal to someone who is 5’6.Who is claiming that you can?
>>534955177>stealingWhy would they steal from poor people when they can just print more money. Its not stealing to take some rent (you live there, you don't own it, you agreed to the contract) or a bridge toll (maintains the bridge). Shitty 3rd world mentality poors piss me off with how they think rich people deserve to be poor so every tom dick and harry can have a free check. Parasite behavior. No different than bandits, who steal not to feed themselves but to afford luxuries.
>>534950340Get a job, you lazy nigger faggot. The moment you earn your own money, yhe less you want to share it. Look at rage against the machine. That's your communism.
>>534955203People don't seem to understand that some people are born to be rich or poor by God. Neither is bad, both are a trial. Will the rich man abuse his power? Will the poor man break the law to live in luxury?
>>534955808>Why would they steal from poor people when they can just print more money.Good question. We should ask them that after we stop them from continuing to steal money.
>>534955947>People don't seem to understand that some people are born to be rich or poor by God.Source?
>>534950880>thievery is wrongExactly, are you trying to reinforce his point?
>>534951021>The government, which is controlled by the rich, is going to give back to the poor if we just give them absolute authority over the individualVery true
>>534951021>Retard commie thinks his commie government will only steal from the richLol. Every fucking time.
>>534957093I'm all for silver and amber backing the dollar to stop the retarded money printing scheme. >>534957120Literally any religion. Being rich in life is either a reward or test.
>>534950340Is this teletubby?
>>534957502>to stop the retarded money printing scheme.What literature have you read on this topic outside of windows movie maker documentaries on youtube?
>>534957502>Literally any religion.Which one? They can't all be true.
>>534957692Wym? If the dollar isn't backed with silver or something then what's stopping them from printing more and more money? >>534957724I'm talking about abrahamic religions
>>534952681>The thing is, i actually have no problems with communism IN THEORY. If everything was implemented the way the idealists would want it, it would probably be an okay system. However, the reason why communism doesn’t work isn’t communism itself, its that it’s incompatible with human nature.Shut the fuck up with the boomer crypto leftoid bullshit.Communism doesn't even work in theory, it has both to do with "human nature". It's retarded nonsense that doesn't make any fucking sense.>billionaire bad!>Unelected bureacrat with control over billions of dollars of government funds good!>Elected under qualified shoe factory retard that wins a popularity contest with control over billions of dollars of government funds good!
>>534950340Fuck off kike.
>>534950340HOW IS AN OLIGARCHY GOOD ?
>>534957887Ive noticed only seething powerless people who want to be rich and powerful REALLY want communism. They think theyre so good and holy for being poor and that they'd totally not abuse being rich, unlike current rich people. Even though the whole point of communism is to steal from the current rich. Ego stroking god complex to the extreme.
>>534950340Minarchism is the best:US withdraws from all foreign entanglements and organizations, all troops brought home, bases sold. Simplify legal code (only violent crimes (death penalty), private property/consumer protections, enforce contracts, workers rights, civil liberties), federalize all law enforcement, courts (night watchmen/detective model with violent criminals executed would require significantly less LEO than current “patrol and ticket” model). Remove all state/local government/agencies. SS, Medicare, SNAP, etc. gone. Employers required to provide health insurance, extra 10% of salary into IRA. No immigration, all visas cancelled, ban dual citizenship, repeal birthright, deport illegals and chain migrants (~80m removed). Tariffs to ensure trade surplus, ban remittance. Limit international sea/air entry to la/nyc, ban land. All land and infrastructure sold except national parks (held by public trust, funded w entry fees), some US bases and federal buildings(~$5T). No taxes except 30% tariffs. Education is homeschool or private. EMS and Fire is through private subscription/insurance model.Department of War>Size: 150k>Budget: $85BCoast Guard>50k>$15B>Defense of territorial waters, EEZ, anti-sub/ship patrolsAir Guard (merge w Space)>50k>$50B>Defense of airspace (interceptors, NORAD, radars, etc), silo-based ICBMs, satellitesNational Guard>50k>$20B>Defense of land borders, embassies, ports of entry, cargo inspection and THAAD/Patriot - major citiesDepartment of Treasury>10k>$5B>Fiscal management, tariff collection, mint silver currency ($1.2T based of domestic use M0) with gold reserves ($4.6T, ~40k tons - Monetary Base ($5.8t-M0)Department of Justice>250k (200k police)>$100B>Law enforcement, courts, jails, co-intel, deportations, electionsDepartment of State (WH/Congress)>35k>$10B>Salaries, staff, security, diplomats, museumsPersonnel: 450kTotal: $200BTariff Revenue: $1TSurplus: $800B (debt) (now only $20T)
>>534957884>Wym?What literature have you read about the topic you're discussing? Which college did you graduate from?>If the dollar isn't backed with silver or something then what's stopping them from printing more and more money?Economic constraints, enforced by a central bank that is legally independent from the daily political administration. If you just print endless money, money won't be worth anything and we'll all die, and governments don't want their country to die, so they implement guard rails.Investor confidence in respective currencies also reinforces public trust in the currency, and investors aren't confident when their investment is devalued by bullshit.Since we're all still alive, and nowhere close to being dead, it's probably safe to assume that they aren't printing anywhere near enough money for that to happen.
>>534958808>What literature have you read about the topic you're discussing? Which college did you graduate from?Kekeroonie he really thinks you need education to know basic truths. If people in charge are evil and greedy and nothing is stopping them from printing fake paper unbacked money, what do you think will happen. Oh the evil greedy bankers will stop them? What a joke anon.
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>>534960113>Kekeroonie he really thinks you need education to know basic truths.You got the basic truths wrong, so apparently yes.
>>534960420All the guard rails and laws in the world wouldn't stop a very determined evil greedy person anon, theyll just weasel around the rules or bribe until they get their way, that's their satanic nature.
>>534960537You could make this myopic argument about any system held together with laws. A really greedy person could shoot you in the brain with a glock and take your money that way too.
>>534960701Yeah and they'd be caught way easier.
>>534961161Why do you think that?What do you think the rates are for unsolved homicides in USA?
>>534950880Theft is wrong. Who owns the product of one's own labour? The worker, correct?
>>534961255They can't bribe their way out of it with money if caught. Someone who goes around shooting people to steal their wallet is the low impulse control desperate kind of person that would get caught.
>>534950880The state cannot steal, as it owns the land. Neither can the collective, as they are the descendants of those who built the country
TOTAL COMMUNIGGER DEATH
>>534961489>They can't bribe their way out of it with money if caught.You mean like how Epstein killed himself when he cou?Or are you one of the people who are plagued enough with paranoid ideation that you think he escaped using magic?It feels like whenever anything happens that would prove your theory wrong, you can mindlessly wave the criticism away by saying it's part of the conspiracy. That's circular logic, if you didn't notice yet. Your worldview is so flimsy you start with the conclusion, and then look for evidence later.
>>534961731>You mean like how Epstein killed himself when he cou?when he couldn't do that*
>>534950880if you know thievery is wrong why do you push capitalism on yourself and others? Just doesn't make sense.
>>534962137Yeah, every single employer skims off the top of your labor lol. If taxes are stealing, then profit is too.
>>534950340> implying forcing everyone to the lowest common denominator is the moral good.There needs to be a term for beyond retarded for you and commies like you, because you are beyond retarded.
>>534961731They (poor people who go around shooting others for their wallet) can't bribe their way out of it with money if caught. Clearly if you have enough money and connections that you can get away with bad stuff in a corrupt society for years... then if you do get exposed to the public then either your higher-ups want to get rid of you because of some reason, or you commited so many evil acts that God took it personally and made you get exposed.
>>534962969They were born poor stupid and frail by God and they want to feel better about it by stealing from those born better, that's really all its about.
>>534963136>They (poor people who go around shooting others for their wallet) can't bribe their way out of it with money if caught.No, but the cops can simply choose to release them, if we're delving into imagination-land levels of analysis.
>>534963136Also, I'm so curious, why do you think they will be able to bribe judges with a useless, devalued currency?
>>534963236You're just pissed that understanding how humans feel and think gives you more knowledge about people and the world than a fancy education where you're taught what and how to think by people so far removed from normal society that they may as well be aliens. No matter what system or law is in place humans will still be affected by their thoughts and feelings first, they aren't machines to be uploaded with parameters.
>>534963591You know that just saying a bunch of words and instantly believing them, doesn't make them true, right?
>>534963379Clearly everyone below the "able to print money at will" bracket are constrained by the fake unbacked paper.
Nope, you're going to see communism fall and become nothing but a memory in your lifetime. If you haven't noticed we've been systematically destroying it.
>>534963713Nothing response, the same could be said about any theory of theoretical government that haven't been tested irl. And communism has been tested, many times, and its failed every time long term.
>>534963723Everyone who lives under or interacts with that economy will be heavily impacted by it, actually. The way you talk about these things reminds me of the shit children say about money and banking. It's such a clear lack of any experience or knowledge about any of the shit you're talking about. And then you purposely never learn anything new about the topic, because you don't actually care about this issue. You just get a little dopamine hit every time you repeat the conspiracy phrases. That's really as far as you get in the discourse lol
>>534964167>You're childish stupid and conspiratardOk. Why did they unback the dollar saying it was a temporary thing, and then never back it years later? Why do you think bankers who are known to make money out of nothing (usury) would create a loophole free, just banking system?
>>534964452>You're childish stupid and conspiratardYeah, basically that.
>>534963844>Nothing response, the same could be said about any theory of theoretical government that haven't been tested irlWe were talking about central banks and printing money. Did you respond to the wrong post?
>>534964607No I was referencing OPs post to make an example
