Does Europe need a leader who will put "Europe First" like Trump claims to put "America First"?Some Europeans might say "fuck Europe, I just want my country to succeed independently, without the EU".But let's face it: each European country is a middle power at best. Look at similarly powerful countries like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. They're all basically dependent on the US. So if you destroy the connections between European nations, each one will become dependent on the US. The only way for Europeans to be independent of the US is for Europeans to join together and say "fuck off" to the Americans.
>>534960892European Federation by 2030.
>>534960892The EU is a corrupt bureaucracy. We don't have a meaningful tech sector because of the EU. It will drag us down to hell.
lowkey it would be kinda fire if we got a chud head of the commissionfirst things first we need pro eu conservative chuds running our countries on the national level
>>534961062tech sector is a meme anyway, its overly saturated and for pajeetswe need production
>>534961062Typically the EU bureaucracy is less corrupt and makes more sense than local ones.
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>>534960892I'm pro EU, but federalisation would destroy Europe. Power must be decentralised like in the HRE or the Dutch Republic so our regional interests will be accounted for. A Federalised state would destroy cultures and countries for the greater good and eventually eat itself like all empires do.
>>534961062Surely the solution is to elect better EU politicians, rather than destroy the EU altogether>>534961316Thoughts on the new prime minister of Hungary? He's right-wing and pro-EU
What would you exactly do with EU regardless who leads if? Pan-Europa Kalergi plan? Some weird equality slop, but only for Europeans?
>>534961017This.
>>534961989i liked orban personally because I hate the Ukrops but the new one isnt that bad, maybe some vetos can be overturned
>>534961376>we need productionThat's China. They have lower taxes and regulations.
>>534961527Dude you live in fantasy land. The EU parliament has the most ongoing corruption cases.
>>534961989>Surely the solution is to elect better EU politiciansGood luck for that! It's not a democracy.>rather than destroy the EU altogetherThe only good thing about the EU is free trade and free movement of workers. And the EU is not needed for that. Any countries can make free trade agreements.Or we could just recreate a free trade union. We don't need common policies, taxes and budget.
>>534962743>Less corruption cases means less corruption
>>534962743Yeah Ursula have a shot ton of affairs on the ass who will never be judged like they judge goyim for antisemitism anyways. She was sending private messages with Bourla during the Covid, she deleted everything. This is a corruption nest burn it all.
>>534960892On United Staates of Europ!Time we rise again and fix that shit show ameriniggermutts have created.Finalaly resolve the juden question at its root and start a new renesaunce of mankind.It was a huge mistake to let the nigger mutts to run the show unchalanged.
>>534963255Name the affairs.
>>534963040Yes we need standartisation on all levels and it will be done by free will or force.Standartisation is the basis for prosperity.You cant keep the cake and eat it anon.A 1 Kg has to be same everywhere as have to be laws so said workers and companys dont get fuckt over.
>>534961938So keep it as-is? Or what would be the ideal organizational level?
>>534963638I suspect you haven’t studied history and economics. Central planning has never worked, and it has always ended in disaster.
>>534963421>Finalaly resolve the juden question at its rootThis is not even a topic in Europe.Well, a whispered topic.In totalitarian Britain, you go to jail for wrongthink.The EU constitution either enshrines free speech American style, or the whole project dies when fanatics hijack it.
>>534964485>Central planningHaving a common framework for laws and regulation is not central planning.You literally don't know anything of economics and accuse others. Please embarrass yourself elsewhere, cigány
>>534960892Europe has no king, europe needs no king
>>534960892your economy would collapse without america, you stupid faggot. you need us, we don't need you and you'll start another world war. just die out already, you have no culture, your history is made up, you killed your soul with the two world wars you started. it's over. die peacefully
>chat controll>internet IDAt least the chinks get megacitiy infrastructure, patriotism and telling the US and Israelto suck a dick. We get none of that but all the mass surveilance
>>534965017kek there really is nothing that scares you mutt manlets more than a unified europe
>>534965283of course because you constantly start wars and fuck the world up. you started two world wars and the state of the world is literally your fault with the usa trying to fix it. most of your tech is ours anyway, including ASML
If the "Europe First" guy actually did deliver instead of doing a 180 like 99.999999% of all politicians, then sure, why not.Problem is that this wont happen. People living today is not smart enough or have the ability to achieve such goals. Not here, not anywhere in the world.I am both pro and against EU for the simple reason its not just a trading block anymore but an institution that act as they are a country with law and regulation loving people who are experts when it comes to make growth even possible. Culture also has a lot to do with it. We are different over here and have very different perspective on things. So for something like that to happen I doubt would even be possible.A united military, sure. Sound good and all. But I doubt that part itself would work out also. I cant imagine countries sacrificing their own countries for some other country. The idea is good but I dont believe it. Just the same way that I dont believe having US as an "ally" over here either because they would never sacrifice NY, LA, Chicago, Miami for Paris or London either. Its an illusion of strenght that is not there if shit really hit the fan.What everyone should do is just to nuke up, and have a system that works in a way that if someone try to invade, nukes automatically fires towards the attacking country. This way, no one would attack anyone.
there has historically been no greater villian to the white man than the european
>>534965513We will nuke the usa and the whole world will be relieved
>>534966496and then you lose ASML and all your other technology. you're brown until proven otherwise
>>534964811You don't need the EU for contracts.You just want some top down, cargo cult bullshit. We already have too much of that.
>>534961938I'm not saying Europe needs to integrate in every way immediately. But European nations should probably collectively consider what are the next steps to improve the lives of Europeans. Defence is obviously a big thing - more investment is needed. Also steps should be taken to improve Europe's economy and industry.>>534962405Why do you hate Ukrainians? They're trying to defend their nation from an invasion. They want to choose their own future without Moscow ruling them. It seems a lot of Ukrainians want a European future, allied with Europe, instead of with Russia.
>>534960892>But let's face it: each European country is a middle power at best. Look at >>The US who failed i Korea,vietnam, parts of the golden Triangle, iraq and Afghanistan. And now Iran.>>be more like them anon. Fail. And....: BRO TRUST ME.
>>534960892The problem with eurocrats, is they don't actually care about europeans.
>>534967140>Why do you hate Ukrainians? They're trying to defend their nation from an invasionthere is no such thing as a Ukranian, their "nation" is fakeUkraine used to be part of the Soviet union 9which Russia is the successor state legally) and before that part of the Russian Empireit was created as a buffer state by Germany shortly before their collapse in 1917. Also they have nothing to do with europe, they literally banned the russian language and have nazi scum terrorising the eastern provinces for decades
>>534967662Nigger if ukrainians simply don't want to be part of russia then they don't have to be
>>534967189America keeps fucking up with foreign policy yes. That's not my point though. The US is still the most powerful nation on Earth. And all the non-European middle powers which are relatively similar to European countries (Japan, South Korea, Canada, Australia, NZ) are dependent on the US. If Europe splits apart, Germany becomes dependent on the US. Do you think Germany alone can fully protect itself from the might of China, or even just Russia? Europe together is stronger.>>534967263EU elections happen every five years. Europeans elect MEPs. Then those MEPs have to approve whoever will become the EU Commission president.>>534967662>Ukraine used to be part of the Soviet unionSo did other countries. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Kazakhstan. They're real countries.>they have nothing to do with europeHow so? They're a Slavic nation. There are other Slavic European nations: Poland, Czechia, Serbia, etc.>they literally banned the russian language Source?>have nazi scum terrorising the eastern provincesLots of countries have far-right segments of society. Germany does. Russia does. Probably every country in Europe does.
>>534968000even with that logic, shouldnt the eastern republics and crimea be part of russia?
>>534968154Those MEPs get to approve whoever is put in front of them by the commissionIf the commission doesn't get the answer it wants they just keep doing it until they doIts the same with legislation, they don't propose or make it. Just vote on what the commission puts in front of themFor the EU to have any degree of democratic legitimacy its executive and legislative bodies need to be electedAs it stands the executive is appointed
>>534968154> Sourceimagine if the muslims in britain banned the english language kek https://apnews.com/general-news-a86d9ec891e0458dbac0b9f40e457a12>Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Kazakhstan.good idea, they are next>Lots of countries have far-right segments of society. Germany does. Russia does. Probably every country in Europe does.well i dont know many countries having banderite terrorists in their national army
>>534960892Europe cannot be saved by a single 'strong man' leader by nature. The whole reason the EU exists and has any value at all is to ban the specter of 'hegemonial power' from the continent. Any such leader would bring the topic back, as it already does anytime Germany does [literally anything].Europe and the EU can only be saved if the european people understand our problems as common problems and stop accepting the absolute lunacy our national goverments practice behind the fig leaf of Brussels. People need to give a shit first, which is why we're all doomed.
>>534961062THe EU bureaucracy is much less corrupt than Hungarian bureaucracy.And much more competent.Also much smaller than any bureaucracy in Europe btw.I'd rather have the EU bureaucracy rule Romania, than actual Romanians.
>>534968301I'm pretty sure the parliament can reject commission presidents, and legislation, if they want.>the executive is appointedIt's approved by the parliament I think. Which is similar to the UK. The prime minister needs to command a majority in the House of Commons. Then the PM can appoint people to government positions. Rishi Sunak put David Cameron in the Lords in order to make him Foreign Secretary.Anyway it would be good if the EU was more democratic, but it already is relatively democratic.>>534968415>https://apnews.com/general-news-a86d9ec891e0458dbac0b9f40e457a12Okay let's look at that:>The legislature in the Lviv region voted on Wednesday to “impose a moratorium on the public broadcast and use of Russian-language content” until Russia withdraws all of its troops from Ukraine.Seems fair to me. Russia should just fuck off from Ukraine, simple.>well i dont know many countries having banderite terrorists in their national armyRussia has Nazis fighting for them:>Russian neo-Nazi paramilitary group Rusich took to Telegram in mid-November to post a photo of one of its fighters posing in front of three bodies of Ukrainian soldiers. It is thought to be the tip of the iceberg in terms of war crimes committed by this group, which is currently deployed on the Ukrainian front. https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251204-atrocity-competition-russian-neo-nazi-group-rusich-ukraine
>>534960892We need a miracle
>>534960892MAKE ISRAEL GREAT AGAINall of EU politicians are jewish cumrags
>>534960892Germany needs to stop playing coy and realize that it actually has the power, economy, and resources to truly make Europe great. But alas, denazification seems to have permanently damaged their national psyche. Sad.
>>534960892>Some Europeans might say "fuck Europe, I just want my country to succeed independently, without the EU".Yeah these fucking retards on the right cannot coordinate at EU level. They're all about immigration but when push comes to shove they can't get their act together.
>>534969150>Seems fair to me. Russia should just fuck off from Ukraine, simple.the fact is that ukraine lostand the israel tier fake state will be gone
Let's see now. Back in 1999, I was on tour, playing my guitar(s) all over Europe, having sex and drank beer all day and all night. Then EU came and ruined it all;>no smoking in barswas the first nail. After that rule, the venues began to smell like perfume, stale beer and farts. The mix of these smells is horrible. Cigarette smoke masked it all and made it all awesome. Then EU proceeded, step by step, to ruin EVERYTHING.If EU wants my respect, it needs to cancel just about every single thing they have "accomplished" since 1999. Tough job.
>>534960892>33 KB PNG>Does Europe need a leader who will put "Europe First"ISRAEL FIRST
>>534969473what eu rule bans smoking in bars finngolian?
>>534960892No. What Europe needs is for politicians that do actually useful things rather than appear to be doing useful things.Shit like the bottle cap regulation should never have happened - it's a lot of political will and effort spent on a rounding error when it comes to the environment. Meanwhile it also has an economic and political cost (nobody likes this regulation).We need politicians that prioritize the economy, independence, and individual freedom ahead of everything else. It's silly that we're knee-deep in shit like environmental regulation while our economies are struggling. That regulation kneecaps us further, but somehow the politicians and the people think it's a good idea to become poor.
>>534969522She is actually saying Europe IS the values of the Talmud, i.e. that the values of the Talmud are the core of Europe.
>>534960892>europe firstRegardless on if you think its good or bad it will be impossible when AfD wins in germany they'll try to leave the EU
>>534969534>faget homo directiveset forth by environmentalist feminists, who still>MENstruateswhich I find insulting. They should rename their habit to girlstruate, or something.
>>534969675brotha you can smoke in any bar in europe
>>534960892The rassemblement nationale insists that AfD are nazis and Meloni is not right-wing enough and too pro Ukraine and so on. No wonder nothing happens because they don't get their shit together.
>>534969741I believe you are in a wrong parallel universe. I can smoke in my local bar, in a designated dog house - I want cigarette smoke everywhere in the venue. Just to mask the mix of perfume, stale beer and farts. Most horrible mix of smell ever existed.
>>534969037Thats cool, id rather not have EU stealing our money and controlling what we can/cant do..well, and not invovle myself with your stinky gypsy country either.>>534961989> Thoughts on the new prime minister of Hungary? He's right-wing and pro-EUyou mean the one that was shoved into leadership with the help of EU by enabling the loan to Ukraine?(Literally on the promise that they themselves are excempt from the contributing to the loan) I mean.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh man, Europe is so fucking screwed and people are so cllueless of how bad it is actually is.>>534961527> Typically the EU bureaucracy is less corrupt and makes more sense than local onesLike what? you probably dont know a god damn thing of what EU is doing or not doingHEJSAN, VILL DU HA 40 MILJARDER? Åh taack, jag får tillbaka 14-18 milljarder XDDDwe are ensured future inflation by creating fake money, which will be invested ONLY ON GERMAN MILITARY HAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAFUCK WHY ARE WE INVOLVING OURSELF WITH RETARDS?! I HATE YOU ALL
>>534969522this bitch is so stupid she got kicked out from taking responsibility over military, still somehow got elected as top of EUthis is how retarded EU actually is, a corrupt fucking shit stain that is destroying europe while pretending that its improving things.
>>534969908>we are ensured future inflation by creating fake money, which will be invested ONLY ON GERMAN MILITARY HAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAWell to be fair, which other country has the industry base necessary to do this at scale + will not embezzle 80% of the funds? If it was split between 4-5 countries, the end result would be just maasive corruption and nothing would get made.
>>534960892>"Europe First" like TrumpUrsua leyer she is even as judeo servile whore like Trump is match made in heaven.
>>534970432>Well to be fair, which other country has the industry base necessary to do this at scale + will not embezzle 80% of the funds? > If it was split between 4-5 countries, the end result would be just maasive corruption and nothing would get made.bro, are you even listening to yourself? WE CREATE MAGIC MONEY (Half the size of the entire EU budget) = Inflation already confirmed.And then, what do we do? we speedrun in what retarded way we invest it to make sure that JEWKRAINE isnt wasting it all on cocain.so it just goes straight into investments around GERMANY military corpo ALONE.Whats wrong with SAKO?Whats wrong with SAAB?Whats wrong with BAE/Bofors?Its all just sloppy, without thinking of consequences, no planning or anything.EU is literally run by absolute retards and the jews are totally rugpulling our economy with money that dont exist and wont be created naturally.they delude themselves with fantasies like:> "oh, we can make russia pay it as reparations"like theyre a bunch of victimhood niggers of what they themselves started by allowing the NATO overreach that compromise Russian geopolitical safety.Somehow they must realize deep down how retarded this is but they dont care, they hate Europeans.
EU just came to be one day and declared on day 1 that >white man is the enemyJust like that. I scratched my head for a minute and actually believed what they said. To my horror, no one else around me noticed diddly squat. I said>henloo?It took enormous effort to just point out what's being openly said. Fuck me in the ass raw!If men around me would have been even 10% of what I was, NONE OF THIS BULLSHIT COULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. But nooo. It has taken all my best effort to remain calm and explain, million times the same thing, and now it begins to show signs of life - once it's all in the face. I wish I could have been a batman and do more.
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If EU wants my loyalty, wonderliar needs to get down on all fours and suk min kuk.>then I consider.I have been badly insulted, humiliated, pushed down, pushed aside.. all that. BJ might not be enough.
>>534970143>this is how retarded EU actually is, a corrupt fucking shit stain that is destroying europe while pretending that its improving things.THIS!
>>534968155No, they never wanted to be russian either. At least there is no evidence of them wanting it ever.>>534962743What do you think have been more corrupt on average? EU as a whole or Hungary?>>534960892Trump-like politicians have proven themselves to be completely useless so many times that i don't think it would even be furthering EU independence from the US in any meaningful way.
>>534972502>What do you think have been more corrupt on average? EU as a whole or Hungary?Both are corrupt as fuck. But at least Hungary has a much higher degree of free speech and much lower crime rates than France or Germany.
>>534960892But what if I want a Russian EU? Pre ukraine war Russia was better than globohomo EU
>>534972823No, the right answer is Hungary has been the most corrupt part of Europe for a decade straight.>higher degree of free speech and much lower crime ratesIt's all due to Niggers. I'm sure Germany can figure out the final solution to this problem, not sure about France though. But Hungary most certainly doesn't have more free speech as EU on average. You didn't even have free press until this year.
>>534969296>GERMANY HELP US!!!Stop hiding behind a memeflag and take some responsibility
