Why did we lose the technology to make engines that lasted 300K miles?
we can still make them but theyre much worse for the environment
>>534981946>weWho is that?
>>534981946chink cheap chinkshit planned obsolescence replacement of whites via cheap chink locust invasions
>>534981946We didn't, they're just no longer legal due to stricter emissions laws and safety testing. And even if they were it's too late now that the public has accepted motor vehicles as a disposable commodity
>>534981946so you buy the monitored and tracked slop
>>534981946>WhyJews
>>534981946>Why did we lose the technology to make engines that lasted 300K mileswe just now found the technology to make a u-turn around the moon. stow down a bit
>>534982047Ah yes it must be much more environment friendlyto make 20 engines that die after 100k km than to make one that can go few milions
>>534981946>lose the technology to make engines that lasted 300K miles?aka getting frequent oil changes?
>>534981946My first car. I miss that nigger like you wouldn't believe. Plowed it through a brick fence, and there was barely a scratch on the bonnet. Drove it home without a problem. Car lasted me almost 25 years until the wiper motor died out. Yank mutts could never build such a stunning piece of machinery.
>>534981946judeo-capitalism
>>534981946Most people including myself are boy racers I already went through one tranny on a bullet proof car
>>534981946>Why did we lose the technology to make engines that lasted 300K miles?Because we developed kike technology instead that makes sure the vehicles only last for the warranty.
>>534982327Even more important now that everyone uses the thinnest oil possible to maximize gas mileage
>>534982328you got rid of your car because the wiper stopped working? did you even attempt to fix it or are you too retarded to even use a socket wrench?
>>534981946Regulations. That's why vehicles are so heavy and expensive now, too. I'd like to see it all go away. I want airbags outlawed. I don't want crumple zones, either. I want everyone behind the wheel to know that if they fuck up, they could die or be permanently injured. They'd either stay off of their phones or they'd be removed from the gene pool. Imagine a world with reasonably priced cars. Some of us lived there. We need to go back.
>>534982309tell that to King Nigger whose Cash for Clunkers program took many nice old cars off the road, to be replaced by devices that expire after 3 yearsor all the Groomercrats who incentivized Electric Cars, whose productoin creates way more pollutants than simply driving an old reliable gas guzzler for years and yearsnot to mention the short life of the batteriesall the so-called Environmental bullshit that Lefties shove down our throats do nothing but create more pollution and pad the pockets of Lefties
>>534982569It is insane that we're in the age of disposable cars. All of this waste just so manufacturers can fleece us for a few more shekels to buy a new car.
Use the recommended oil, specs not just weight. Change it every 5000 miles. Wait until the engine warms up before bouncing it off the rev limiter.
>>534981946I drive a 96 Rav4 my mom gave me when I was a teenager. Never had an engine issue and still looks and runs as good as ever.
>>534981946Jews
>>534981946hate to break it to you, but the reliable is mostly a meme>but in the 3rd world you see toyotas with 500k miles yes they're under-stressed engines, especially the older 4 cylinder manual transmission ones, but plastic, rubber, belts, and hoses decay, and unless you're doing the maintenance yourself, and there's a bunch of similar cars in the junk yard you can get free parts for, then the maintenance bills will become too high. other anons are right about the cash for clunkers disaster, but the high cost of parts and mechanic labor in the usa (especially after 2020) would have taken most of these cars off the road. I wouldn't trust the new economy turbo engines, all those hoses and seals break down after a decade.
idk about 300k. But yes it will hit that 200k mark.
Emissions and mileage standards mostly.>Direct injection fouling (like on the ford Ecoboost).>High compression leading to faster component wear (for example, the Ford Ecoboost).>Overactive variable timing (Like with the Ford Ecoboost)>Weight reduction taken too far (i.e., coolant channels cracking on the Ford Ecoboost).>Overly complicated designs attempting to remedy the above issues (the intercooler condensation issue on the Ford Ecoboost is a great example).>Optimistically long oil change intervals causing increased wear (real world example, the timing chain stretch on the Ford Ecoboost).>All this packed into a smaller footprint to reduce overall vehicle size (another example is the Ford Ecoboost where the water pump is often located inside the engine block.)
>>534981946shareholder value doesn't go up as fast if the engine is reliable. I drive a 90s pickup with almost 300k kms (186k miles). I'm sure it will last another 300k before it gives out and I will literally never buy a new car even when that happens. I will search the ends of the earth for older vehicles. Any car made after 2005 is slop. Any motorcycle made after 2010 is slop.
>>534983041>Wait until the engine warms up before bouncing it off the rev limiterdon't city fags get fines for warming up their vehicles if it is running unattended?
>>534981946We didn't "lose" anything. It's called planned obsolescence. They don't make them because it's bad for business. The same reason why they immediately stopped making durable incandescent bulbs that could last for over century because nobody would buy new bulbs once they had the required number of them.
>>534981946I have a 94 Nissan that hesitates on acceleration under 2000 RPM. It only has 130,000 mi on it and already is acting retarded.
>>534983370I think my 05 2500 is just shy of 250k. putting a rear main and a transmission input shaft seal in it this week. I should probably have the transmission rebuilt while its out, but gave the truck to my kid. He can worry about it down the road.
>>534982146if thats the case they should cost a fraction of what they do
what is the cutoff year for when they became more slop and less based/reliable? like best year to get modern features but still be reliable/comfy/performant to some degree? middle of 2000's you recon?
>>534981946>Why did we lose the technology to make engines that lasted 300K miles?Obama's EPA
>>534982261Everysingletime.jpeg
>>534983456There was one manufacturer that put in a code that shuts vehicle engines off in Germany if they idle for too long. I think their remote start was disabled as well.
>>534981946>lose Uh actually we didn't it's just that companies realised that selling engines and parts also grants profitSame reason as to why my washing machine from 2000's still run, but new ones brake after 5 years
>>534983684(You) will be in a walkable cities so niggers have easy access to rob and kill you, get watched by every AI camera, and you will be happy
>>534981946Alot of modern engines are durable. Trying doing regular maintenance like changing the oil and timing belts lol.
>>534983523Probably just a vacuum leak somewhere. Past the diagnosis, probably a pretty cheap fix even if it's a fuel injector issue.
>>534981946Many cars can still do it. People are just shit at maintaining their cars
>>534981946That was a good car.Check out this ninety three year old dude living in thailand. What tough is nails and independent still. He's got a great old japanese car and he's proud of it.https://youtu.be/oAwaO8Obpxs?si=AE3b9YK2G4aduKer
>>534983041They recommend 0w20 in America to get one mpg better because of jewish regulations. Same engine everywhere else uses 5w30. The recommendation is wrong
>>534981946My 2012 4Runner Limited is almost at 400k miles. Only serious repairs were replacing basically the whole suspension, because I live in the desert and it dries out all the bushings and shocks and things.
>>534983867That was the first thing I checked for. Unfortunately didn't find a leak that doesn't mean it's not there. Guess I could check again. There's just too many things that could be.
>>534981946It's sadly because of emissions laws. So to save the environment you have to throw away your car every 10 years and buy a new one.
>>534983456>>534983804I hate new cars.https://www.gadgetreview.com/germany-forces-lexus-to-remotely-kill-car-heating-in-dead-of-winter
>>534983157Which is why I'll sell my new car in 5 years with 2 years left on the warranty
>>534983999Mexican style OBS’s look surprisingly good.
>>534981946Because companies don't make money building reliable cars. It's the smart phone model for automotive industry, update or die.I'm more pissed about prices. I walked into a dealership last Saturday they wanted $83,000 for a fucking brand new truck. I laughed at the guy and said nah I'll keep my 2011 for another 50,000 miles and check back in then, I asked him how many people were buying cars he said they they were barely selling 5 cars a weekI offered like $40,000 for the truck which has been sitting on the lot for 8 months. Manager ran me off. Kek
>Why
whoever invented turbocharged engines should be crucified
My car battery dies in below-zero night. I never heard of that happening my entire life, but now it is a thing. Unbelievable the enshitifcation of the world today.
>>534983684They're disposable, but they're not simple. AC and radio used to be optional. Manual transmission was cheaper. Now every car has an infotainment system, blind spot monitoring, lane assist, traction control, ABS, adaptive cruise control, heated seats and dual climate control and a manual gearbox costs extra.
>>534984138Just rebuild or throw a junkyard LS in there Bro. I got friends that are kicking themselves for buying new pickups. Paying 83k for something that depreciates by half in a couple years is retarded.
>>534981946Cars are cheap bro. Just buy a 12k shit box every 2 years and you're good.
Just fucking change your oil and you will be surprised. People don't do it and then surprised Pikachu.
>>534984253Yeah I can keep it running the rest of my life. I will NEVER pay more than $300 a month on a car payment. I promise you
>>534983804All of my newer ones shut off after 15 minutes but you can extend it for 15 minutes twice so I guess I can get 45 minutes out of it. Its handy when I fly back into town and want it nice and comfy not knowing how long I have to wait at baggage claim>>534983999checked, I had a '77 that would pull the front tire on launch. fucker was nasty. think farm truck guy from youtube (speed not year model) but it was in good shape>>534984138>$83,000 for a fucking brand new truckI stole my new one because it was aged inventory as a 2025. A 2025 and considered aged, kek. still paid I think $73k plus tip.
>>534984386>A 2025 and considered aged, kek.Lot rot is a thing, but you might get away with a decent deal if they don't try to fuck you on warranty claims (but they will).
Kikes know there soon will be war, so they don't even care about faking quality anymore.They know most of their customers soon will be dead, so who gives a fuck.
>>534984512I'm in a kind of similar industry to automotive when it comes to the sales side. Our dealers get a 1 year floorplan to basically get a semi-free loan to sit on equipment until they have to buy it. Interest kicks in at 6 months, they have to buy it from Wells Fargo at 12 months. That or continue to pay Wells interest. The idea is to turn inventory and never pay interest or get stuck with burning up you cash on hand.The way I understand it is auto is similar but it is just a 3 month floorplan and then you have to buy it after that. I'm sure they have holding companies that buy it and they charge themselves a lower rate.
>>534981946I have a normally aspirated 2GR-FE and it's still running smooth and proper.
>>534983721Here in the US, probably pre-2008. IMO you can find decent cars up to 2013, but be careful this is when automakers really started taking shortcuts on everything.2015 is the absolute cutoff point, everything made past this is overregulated surveillance state trash.Pic related 10klbs nightmares like this exist on our roads, and there's women driving the,/
>>534985031The Durango is enormous. It's basically a full sized van from previous decades.
>>534983041Also prioritize a vehicle that uses port injection rather direct injection
>>534985031It's actually a really good looking truck. If it wasn't called a Hummer I'd be interested in it.
>>534982146>it's too late now that the public has accepted motor vehicles as a disposable commodityCars WERE disposable commodities prior to the reliability peak in the early 90s. Are you too young to remember the late 70s and 80s chevys and plymouths and the like? Have you ever even seen a british car lol? Cars being reliable enough that you could reasonably expect to drive them for more than a decade without careful garage keeping and meticulous maintenance only came into existence in the 90s. Datsuns were turning into flintstones mobiles in like 5 years back in the old Z and 510 era. Quarter million mile all original EF civics and E90/100 corollas were the outliers in automobile history, not the norm by a longshot.
>>534982120>delusional miggerthe "chinkshit" is all banned because the big 3 want a totally captive market they can dump 150k f9000s onto
>>534984218>a manual gearbox costs extraI've seen the opposite because manuals sit in the lot forever and nobody buys them. they knocked 20% off the MSRP for the last manual I bought but it had been sitting in their lot for 8 months. also thanks obama for making backup cams mandatory. sorry I'm not so fucking stupid I'd run over a kid while backing out of my driveway
>>534982047I fucking despise you kikes, complete kike death
>>534986812Isn't there a new law that cars have to monitor your behaviour? That's going to be another $5k.
>>534981946planned obsolescence shareholder profits lower the quality but increase the bill for the customer If you're not subtracting the car cost from your business or getting it from a company, just buy cheap. You probably have less issues with a Dacia than a 2025 Mercedes.
>>534982564Trump already removed a lot of biden and obama regulations, but it could be years before we see the results of that.
>>534982462That nigger >>534982564>Regulations. That's why vehicles are so heavy and expensive now, too. I'd like to see it all go away. I want airbags outlawed. I don't want crumple zones, either. I want everyone behind the wheel to know that if they fuck up, they could die or be permanently injured. They'd either stay off of their phones or they'd be removed from the gene pool. Imagine a world with reasonably priced cars. Some of us lived there. We need to go back.That only works when women, niggers, spix, jeets, and chinx aren't allowed to drive.
>>534986950Cars passive cost is ridiculous over here you're paying 400-600 euro a month in passive cost if you own one. Road tax, insurance, fuel, mandatory gov maintenance, maintenance in general, it all adds up. I avoid most of this crap by riding a mopet.
>>534981946Diesel chuds keep winning>t. 240k miles and still going
>>534981946coin clipping bankers decided to get involved
apparently chinese evs run basically new after 100k+ miles
>>534987068That's temporary. The next Dem that gets the office will immediately reverse it.
>>534987484so just never vote democrat
>>534981946chinese EVs can go 500k+i know theres a lot of CIA propaganda about how they're death machines but the higher end brands are already on par or have surpassed tesla. not to mention tesla uses chinese made batteries in some of their models.
>>534987189I honestly think you could take a taxi everywhere you want to go and save money doing it.
>>534982328>Car lasted me almost 25 years until the wiper motor died out. Yank mutts could never build such a stunning pieceWhat? That's what did you in>Yank mutts could never build such a stunning piece of machinery.Nigger, my wife could have replaced that
>>534987543I don't, but I can't stop the illegal aliens nor the 'mail in ballots' from getting these commie fucks into office.
>>534987742i guessuntil we literally just remove commies and shovel them all into antarctica with a we blanket this will never end.
>>534982047The difference between a good reliable engine from the 90s and 00s and a slightly more effecient engine from today is negligible. It's more environment to just keep the older thing running. This is why looking back Cash for Clunkers was a fucking disaster. It fucked over people who needed cheap working cars, plus all of the parts from all of those cars that could have been salvaged and used for decades.
>>534987845What did Antarctica ever do to you?
>>534986731No. They weren't disposable. They were well used and resold cheaply but they weren't disposed of. I am old enough, I bought cars and motorcycles for $500 that I drove back home and for years after but the boomers selling them were always happy somebody was buying something they didn't want anymore. Disposable means you throw it away, now people will give their busted cars away for free to a junkyard just to have it towed. It was our generation that bought all the cheap reliable cars and drove them into the ground, boomers still have some of the best kept cars I know. I have a family friend with a Toyota Avalon almost 300k miles and nothing leaks. I drive a 25 year old BMW that I bought for $500. How many cars from 2026 will be on the road in 2051?
>>534981946YOU MUST buy your corporate oligarchs more islands. They are entitled to everything you can possibly give. Buy another nu Goyota that will shit itself at 100k miles, they're totally reliable gaijin/goyim.
Chrysler Super Six. The cars would rot away around them, engines would still run.
>>534987742And that is how brainwashing works
>>534984180This thread is making my blood boil. I drive a '91 B2600i with over 300K mi on it. And most of my family and friends tell me I need a new vehicle. Good night, anons.
>>534988074>a Toyota Avalon almost 300k miles and nothing leaksLet me guess, mid 90s era?>I drive a 25 year old BMW that I bought for $500Yeah, so end of the 90s era reliability peak. It sounds like you were mostly active during that era but not before, because if you were you'd know how old rusted out sub 10 year old rangers and plymouth reliants and ford fairmonts got treated when their trannies started to eat themselves after a few years and 50k miles. Again, before advances in coatings for paneling and metallurgy for engines and transmissions it was very unusual that a car made it beyond 10 years from date of sale. Sub 100k cars ending up in demo derbys or permanent lawn ornaments were the norm. They were 100% disposable. For every car manufactured from 1950-1990 that survives, there are tens of thousands that went to the scrapper before their 10th birthday.
>>534988049nothing yet, but there's hope
Because no one would buy them. You can build a carbed, non turbod, distributer based engine for pennies. No one is gonna buy a car with 66hp doing 0-60 in 15 seconds.
Cause they make more money that way
>>534985031Find some Toyotas and Hondas from like 2005-2013. I hear 9th gen Civics may be the best. I can't believe 20 year old Tacos still command like $8000.
>>534988315Yeah you're right, I'll admit I was in the game late enough to already know what was worth keeping on the road. But the thread and OP is about how we lost those vehicles. We had it, we could make vehicles that would last as long as you cared to keep them without it costing more than just leasing something new. People weren't treating them as disposable, it took government intervention to get a lot them off the road.
4chan staff makes these 1pbtid guaranteed reply threads to keep site engagement up when there is no news.
>>534988427The only carbureted vehicle I had with little horsepower was a kei car in Japan. It was a 3 cylinder. American V-6 and V-8 vehicles with a big enough carburetor aren't stupid slow.
>>534981946We upgraded the technology to get 2/3rds of the power with half the cylinders and a turbo that destroys the aluminum heads and block just in time for the 7 year warranty to expire.
>>534981946Scarcity was solved a century ago.
>>534982047What's worse for the environment, manufacturing one engine that lasts 200k miles or manufacturing 4 engines that each last 50k miles?
>>534988482I had 9th gen, US production. Supposedly the belt tensioner was made somewhere fucking stupid, like croatia or bulgaria or some shit. Best thing to do is to get a car that's actually Made In Japan.
From the same book
>>534982462I got rid of my last car because a tail light went out.And the frame/body was rusted beyond repair.
My 14 tundra has 180k and still runs like brand new
>>534983041I never go past 3500 rpm and my redline starts at 5k.
>>534981946cost too much, if engine break at 100k you sell 3x car
>>534986731This faggot is correct. Cars now are a shitshow due to the tech, but older vehicles in the 70s and 80s were never-ending problems and most never saw 100k miles.
I have a mitsubishi, 2.4 turbo diesel, and they regularly go 300,000+ with no issues. It's killer offroad with modern electronics, and drives like a town car on the road.>t. I have nationally recognized qualifications in offroad driving and I've been driving 4x4s since the 90s
>>534989093One perk of living in the mojave wasteland is nothing rusts, also means there's a lot of good stuff in our salvage yards
>>534989268>nationally recognized qualifications in offroad drivingIntriguing.
>>534983215So what do you think about the ford Ecoboost?
>>534989268All the other components fail though
>>534981946that's a 2001 corollai know because i drive a manual onei'll drive it until it dies because it's so much fun to use
>>534989321lmao.
>>534989319Almost all of Australia is offroad so he's just got what's basically their normal license lol
>>534981946Probably lost it with the moon lander
>>534989378>AustraliaHe's a Kiwi, but I understand the confusion. New Zealand is really just Australia's sidecar.
>>534984386>plus tip.you tip the people that sell you cars? you people are truly mindbroken by kikes.
>>5349837212004
>>534989397You know its all there sitting in a museum in Washington DC right?You can go up into control stations and take an up-close look and everything.But no that must all be make-believe because STEM is too hard. Just say it was all fake.
>>534981946U vill buy ze 900cc bugbox drei Zylindern Motor goy
>>534984071You're dumb as fuck The "no airbags" guy also dumb as fuck >>534984266>Cars are cheap bro. Just buy a 12k shit box every 2 yearsIdiotThe real solution to "muh reliability" is $6500 Chinese cars. You can literally just replace the entire vehicle. Also they can fully automate the production process now so labor cost is not even a concern. It's purely a steel box with copper/aluminum motor. You can also lease the battery separately from the vehicle - you could always throw in a "backup" 12kwh battery if there's something wrong with your 40kwh battery. Problem solved forever. Or just make it legal to drive Changlis within the city.Cars never made any sense. You're paying some absurd amount, in Canada it cost $48,000 with tax for a hybrid Accord. And they have unforeseen defects, and as another user pointed out, all the rubber will fail in 10 years I've replaced so many fucking ball joints in my lifetime It's unbelievable. Cars are just a money pit for absolutely stupid people. Maybe made sense back when Americans made a lot of money in the 1970s or something. Now it's just a way to take your entire paycheck. It's a second mortgage. If everyone in your country is broke, and you doubled the money supply, then you'll need some cheaper cars, not more expensive ones
>>534989321It is what we deserve.
>>534983999>Dropped suspension >Rubber band tiresPass.
>>534982120this is correct account of what happened right here.
>>534989579It was a joke. Though I suppose you could look at the plethora of fees as a tip of sorts.
>>534981946I still do. 5th Generation 4Runner.
>>534982047How? I’ve got a 1.6L petrol engine in a car known to last to 350,000 miles
>>534981946>Why did we lose the technology to make engines that lasted 300K miles?We didn't there are still engines that can go 300k before a rebuild.
>>534981946They needed a way to fill the west with shit. Planned obsolescence and welfare always does the trick.
>>534981946There is no profits in the things you use and need lastingNot your carNot your healthNot your foodNot even your pets
>>534989737>The "no airbags" guy also dumb as fuckNigger, I'm more than half a century old and have never had an airbag go off. Chinese airbags are basically claymores. You're the one that's dumb as fuck.https://abc11.com/post/warning-banned-airbag-inflators-could-rupture-shoot-shrapnel-car-youre-driving-kids-inside-nhtsa-says/19045486/
Look up the term enshitification. Or planned obsolescence. Now look at an engine, and they now use high temperature phenolic plastic that breaks and warps and cracks because it saves a few grams of engine weight. Meanwhile you overtighten an oil filter and the plastic housing snaps and you have a 3,000 dollar bill. If you can afford new, lease it. All new cars are designed to be disposable. And once the warranty is up the repair costs are extensive.
>>534983804pretty much all newer cars will only idle for 15-20 minutes then they shut offchildren die from it every once in a while but nobody really cares. no AC = death
>>534981946we didnta tacoma went 1million miles lol
>>5349884822012 for Honda Accord.2013+ is when they started putting CVTs in everything.Now everything is CVT+turbo, which is embarrassing because it defeats the whole purpose of buying a Honda in the first place.. the whole point is that it Never breaks.. they can blame CAFE but I bet they tried to turn CVT replacement into a profit center..Honda IMA was cool, but hybrids are just too expensive. Hybrid should be 100% standard by now. Toyota's hybrid drivetrain is cool as well, but again, too expensive In Canada you pay an extra $50 per month for the hybrid, but you'll only save that much in gas if you drive quite a bit more than average The newer Hondas also regularly blow the head gasket. Hondas are defective now.
>>534984190Turbos have their place in the world and that place isn't 4 cylinder econo models.
>>534986745>>534987317>>534987560>>534989737Be quite CCP chinkbots, we’re talking about ICE cars ITT.
>>534981946Planned obsolescence. The same way shoes last only one season. Its a business strategy.
>>534990060In Ontario we don't pay for electricity. Which is why I favor electrics, but they are 1,000/month here. It's very possible to build a cheap car that drives essentially for free. We're just getting scammed left and right Canada is allowing some chinky cars in, but it'll be a limited to 50,000 cars/year or something The alternative is paying $600 for a new civic, 300 and insurance, 300 for gas, you'll be paying 1200 per month for a compact car
>>534990164>In Ontario we don't pay for electricity.Put down the crack pipe.
>>534987219>$6/gallonSo based
>>534988427You cant put an older engine in newer cars because >Muh EPA Just don't get caught?
>>534990235Another retard. Charging an electric car is like $30/CAD per month here. It's like $1.50 per 100km.But our EVs are expensive.I've seen cheap EV leases in the USA, like that Vinfast (Vietnamese garbagemobile) for $249/mo. Some Americans get killed on electricity rates, though, so it's not necessarily an advantage (unless you also have solar).
>>534982047A modern cevy express can hit 400-500k easily.I work on them at the airport all the time that have 400k+. It's extremely common. My wife's Corolla has 250k.Y'all just buy shit cars and get scammed.
>>534981946Those cars never existed it was a psyop
>>534981946Planned obsolescence.
>>534990476Sure the average person isn't doing that though.
>>534983370Why she is Brown?>inb4 she is taned you idiotI thought white people turns red due the sun
>>534990973Yeah because the average person has to go through environmental quality tests which require an obd2 connection.Fuck.This.Gay.Cunt.
>>534991314Not true at all. You can build a car by hand right now and you're exempt from any EPA regulations.
>>534991366Not in my state.Regulations are based on frame date.You need a pre 96 frame to run a carb.
>>534991593Make your own frame.
>>534981946Did modern Toyotas also become pozzed? I know they're still marketing their pickups and SUVs as "indestructible" but those are extremely expensive. So expensive that you could buy a brand new cheap SUV every 5 years for the next 30 years, than buy one new Toyota land cruiser. What do you guys think?
>>534991625Bruhhhh..... What are we doing here?
>>534982430Yeah I would never run a 0 weight oil. That's just asking for fucking trouble.
>>534991655The brand perception is in good shape but you have to be either wealthy or retarded now to justify the price of a 4runner or Land Cruiser, and they're full of gay tech and not nearly as durable or reliable.
>>534989819Your car should make you money and simplify your life. Where you break even on that is going to differ but evidentially enough people spend enough on their transportation that we have a society selling new cars and such
>>534991593Your state sounds gay.
>>534981946They’re still here
>>534991938One of the gayest >West coast best Coast
>>534983964Exactly this. Even running a little thicker then oil never hurts anything.
>>534981946jews
My fleet>1997 ford escprt wagon 220k price $400>1999 crv 310miles (tranny went out need to swap) purchase price $400 w new tires somehow>2001 f350 7.3 140k had to fix an electrical issue..that was it Cost was $0 but new batteries and tires after sitting 10 uears was 1kI loooooove old cars but I like electrical issues more than mechanical.Wife loves old shit too. I offered to get her something New and she was like>so they can track me.and kill switch it? Love that paranoid lady
>>534981946I think there was an engineering curve we reached with cars like this. A curve in which vehicles were manufactured to last a long time and be easily fixed to vehicles becoming overly engineered increasing repair costs and the chance something can go wrong. I can remember being a teen with my first car and I could repair it myself with a service manual and my dad's tools. Now everything runs on a computer and you need expensive diagnostic equipment to fix stupid shit like sensors which cost hundreds of dollars.
>>534992026my old neighbor told me using heavy weight oil is not a bad idea for older engines that are worn
>>534991948My bimmer almost 170K miles
>>534991897My truck hauls logging tools to clear roads that haven't been decommissioned yet because of lack of interest. If i, or other people, don't keep them clean they'll be impassible and ultimately decommissioned.I can't let that happen. If we the people don't have access to public land is it still public?
>>534981946I drive a Renault van with 250Kkms and it is very fine, Burgerstan is not the world it is a 3rd world shithole and Toyotas drive very very far,, you should get one
>>534987571Here in Mexico I can Uber almost anywhere in town for under 5 bucks. Literally cheaper for me to use Uber than buy a car. I use my motorcycle for most travel tho.
>>534981946Who said that you ever had that technology? Not even engines are immune to wear and tear, the engine in that car might have been able to go 300K miles but was that ever the optimal range?
>>534992131That's a cute miata
>>534981946>make car tat beaks down after 10 years of average use>consumer buys car every 10 years>make care that breaks down after 5 years of average use>consumer buys car every 5 yearsGee I wonder why we're not making products that last forever.
>>534981946I've got over 200K miles on my American made in the 2000's car. If you don't beat on your car and maintain it there's no reason it won't last 300K. Actually my goal was 250K but now because of this thread I want to get 300K.
>>534982564And for people who don't fuck up and are still in an accident?
>>534992131Cool car. What engine? Im at 277777km
>>534982569How much are you paid to shill for the fossil fuels industry?
>>534992269I wish my first three cars were Miatas (they were) but I am stuck with what I deserve
>>534992376How much are you paid to shill for the automobile industry?
>>5349923582.5L
>>534992454Solid engine. Had a e34 525i back in the day. Mine was 1990 so no VANOS either. Just change the fluids and abuse it. Sold it at about 350,000km on the dash
Just bought this with 100k miles on it. V6 4Motion baby.VW for LIFE.
>>534992515>v6>vwGood luck. Especially if its the 2.5 diesel v6 nicknamed "hitler's revenge".
>>534992515You’re better off with the 1.9tdi version of that car, it unironically will last 6 gorrillion miles
>>534992598It isn't diesel bro. 4Motion kicks ass. I'm not worried about it. Just gonna mog ppl in the snow and upgrade the turbo and go ballz on the interstate. Gonna lower it and maybe get a SS decal on the rear.
>>534992229Engines are immune to tear and wear.Thank you for your attention to this matter
>>534992076Can I marry your wife if you die? We will give your kids the very best adoption agency and she will bear my schizophrenic sons.
>>534992414I down even own a car but the lie that >Electrical car causes more pollution Is one that I heard before.
>>534992515>vw for lifeI once had to unbolt and lift the engine out of my Jetta to change the headlight.Fuck German “engineering”
>>534981946Still can it just that car inspection won't let them and people maintaining and driving their car like nigger doesn’t help either.
>>534992973You can try. She is a six foot Norwegian who is extremely strong and loves to visit the junkyard for good finds and dumpster dive to no end.3 kids to care for and I expect the best homeschool as we have been doing. No to.adoption agency as they are far too beautiful
>>534989166you're caking your engine with carbon deposits that will cause hotspots, pre ignition and will blow up your motor
>>534992215What bike you running, paco?
>>534983041>>534983456>>534984004In a world with Block heaters running your engine on idel is a fucking stupid idea and it only exposes you for the idiot that you are. Idel isn't even an answer effective way to warm the engine, it will heat for faster by just driving.
>>534993056I had the same passat with xenon headliights. To change the bulb you beed to take the front bumper off. Extremely stupid design
>ethanolBecause we started putting sugar in everyone's gas tank.
>>534982569That programme took barely any cars anywhere
>>534983456You should not warm your car up by idling it. That just causes more wear.
>>534984266Thats way too much nigga wtf
>>534982120says the nigger that always leaves out the part where they destroyed america's manufacturing automotive powerhouse>detroit
>>534993546Lead had to go, it couldn't stay.
I got an 04 celica and a 94 mr2Even there, the difference in build quality is insane. The body and interior is just so much more solid in the 90s car.
>>534983989Get a bottle of fuel injector cleaner, the red stuff with the lubricant and the double tank bottle.
>>534990495>electricity is free>I still pay for it>you're the retardTypical commie.
>>534987965no shit, this was entirely intentional>remember smoke chimney carsreinforcement of the association old, hillbilly, backwards, badthey were useful idiots or early crisis actor psy op influences>this is the world you live in todayit always was, but were optimizing optimizations at this end-stage capitalism>is 'soul' realis what you need to ask yourselfunfortunately, a lot of bad people, to justify their badness, influence you into believing their badness, and the cycle perpetuates
>>534989864>and they now use high temperature phenolic plastic that breaks and warps and cracks because it saves a few grams of engine weightNo it's just cheaper. Injection moulding plastic, can't make cheaper than that.
>>534992344Freedom is scary. Deal with it.
>>534994412Vinyl is an immortal material.
>>534994393>no shit, this was entirely intentionaland i wouldnt even go so far as to forcing population into tracking and mass surveillancethey just thought>make more money>always goodbut you need to stop>at some pointand ask yourself>why more moneyand if its buying a second yacht, while people working for you struggle to make ends meet, it *is* (very likely) your problem, no matter how much you hold them personally responsible for their unwell-beingno, seriously, if you're at that second yacht stage, and you still think this is all 'kosher', something is fucking wrong with you guys
>>534993492>block heatersWhere does the electricity come from? Nikola ain't around anymore to give it to us for free.
>>534981946I dont know about USA but in Europe a 1990s-era petrol engine is genuinely cleaner (if well maintained) than a modern 2015 "eco friendly" diesel. Inspite of a million regulations.For decades people thought their modern diesels were green and it turns out they are worse.
>>534981946We didn't, it's just that everyone wants to make a twin turbo v6 that rattles itself apart right after your 72 month 16% interest loan is paid off.
>>534993546See post >>534994352
>>534994516>and if its buying a second yacht, while people working for you struggle to make ends meet, it *is* (very likely) your problem, no matter how much you hold them personally responsible for their unwell-beingand i dont mean more wages for employers, but it is your problem in a societal sense, you are elite, without doing your job as an elite
>>534994566yeah a 1990's era mercedes benz turbo diesel is one of the cleanest cars on the road.
>>534982462I had to get rid of my car because the tire pressure was low and couldn't figure out how to refill it.I too, am monumentally retarded.Of course that's undeniably bullshit. No, still have the car, still keep up with routine maintenance, not speeding up and down like a ricer nigger especially when the engine's cold, not revbombing like a retard on a sports bike.>16 years and still spinning
>>534994568Oh god seriously every new POS truck. All the DEF systems.Thanks Obama cafe standards.My 7.3 is pissing oil oit of turbo pedestal currently lol
>>534994171This is legitimately why a lot of boomers if not all are retarded. They all have lead poisoning to some degree.
>>534982047So smoke from a lithium fire repairs ozone layers. Got any studies to back that up?
>>534994586get rid of your debt slave problem, americayou know what im talking about>these have nothing to lose turning to life of crimethus, at least>abolish the practice>prevent new ones from becoming>grant (partial) amnesty for existing (i.e. no flat base charges)>im sorry, joe>youre not some 3rd world shithole>this concerns us allripple effect, etc.....wow, it's something like 1865 all over again, eh?
>>534994683>smoke from a lithium fire repairs ozone layerI rember a few years back when they fortified it with vinyl chloride, that was an impressive mushroom cloud.
>>534994721>Predatory Installment Lendingalso, inb4>the state abolished debt bondage slavery in 1865
>>534994517Same place as your gas, block heater doesn't even require a special socket. A normal one will do
>>534996199I get that there's a language barrier, but fuckin' hell, Sven. Where does electricity come from? It's not out of thin air. It comes from coal, nuclear, natural gas, etc. It doesn't just magically appear at your socket.
>>534981946Cars last longer now than they ever have before, retard
>>534989397>man being fed lines says something mind bendingly stupid
>>534996380Let's start from the beginning, what do you think a block heater is. You worry where the electricity comes from? From the extension cord you use from the nearest outlet to the car alternativt you demand that they install outlets on the parking lots. This worry about where electricity comes from, why is that never shown for fossil fuels?
>>534989166The fuck kind of engine red lines at 5k? You driving a diesel from 1912?
>>534997074What kind of racing diesel cars do you drive? They all redline at roughly 5k
>>534997217>diesel M jfc
>>534986915>that post>that namekek. you're gonna make some rabbi have to tear his shirt off, anon
>>534997303They put those badges everywhere now.
you know what happened in the 90s? rise of private equity
>>534997393also they still make them in industrial vehicles
>>534997217>racing dieselPlease say sike lmaooo
>>534997381yes they devalued the M sub-brandnow a different mirror and bumper makes your car an M sad but many such cases
>>534997381dont they do like M packages where it's just branding but not actual M car? kek>>534997426audi won lemons in a diesel
>>534997446The speedo for the car in that pic goes up to 260kph, so is probably limited to 200kphYuro racing is outclassed by high school Americans with 30 year old hondas
>>534997446Even that v10 lemans diesel went 5k rpm
>>534983870Based mercedes enjoyer. My C207 has over 200k miles on it now. The OM651 is a great little engine.
>>534997446>dont they do like M packages where it's just branding but not actual M car?yes if it's M[three numbers here] then it's just an M-packagereal M's used to be called M3 and M5, M6 and M8
>>534997426Mutt is unaware Audi was winning all endurance racing with their V12 TDI engine until they effectively banned diesel engines.
>>534997503americans started making good cars less than 10 years ago everything prior was horrid dogshit the only good cars in the US were made by japs and gookseuro cars are so much better that theyre seen as premium in the us lmaoit _is_ a diesel though so what's so weird about it? you're not gonna do more than 260kph unless you actually race and those are not race cars they're riced sedans>>534997507based audi racing a tractorno fun allowed regulation fags banned it just like they did with 787b i hate it so much
>>534997560Organized racing like F1 is general is pretty gay, but endurance racing finds a way to be even gayerNo wonder you're all so proud of it
>>534996533why does my mechanic think modern cars are such shit then?
All of these cars are bad for the enviroment, because VW lied about their true emissions. So it's better that they be scrapped and newer cars produced. That would be better for the environment..
>>534997670>premiummy first 3 cars were sub $4000 german carsObama kind of fucked that up with cash for clunkers but i dont think they're really seen as premiumMemories of eroding plastic fuel pumps
>>534982564>That's why vehicles are so heavy and expensive now, toono it's not. go look up the real MSRP on a 1995 honda civic vs. today and adjust it for inflation. today's model will be cheaper.
>>534981946We didt you are just shit drivers not understanding maintanence.You dumb niggers save 10 cents on gasket and then bitch you have to pay 10k for a new engine.You save on shit cheap oil instead buying what is expected to specs by the engeneers.You niggers dont even read the instruction manuals of your cars.>Hurr durr press pedal makes car goThats the US brain. You get even bicicels to start burning.
>>534997770Because everyone sees the era in which they grew up through rose colored glasses.Do you want to go back to the early 90's when odometers didn't even go up to 100k miles? Do you know why they didn't go that high?
>>534997925What gasket are you regularly buying for your cars?
>>534981946Around the same time that we decided plastic is super cheap to make and everyone should keep throwing away their plastic despite the fact it's a byproduct of oil mining which is allegedly always running out.Also curious where the Americans will be after Trump agrees to let Chinese electric cars into the US.
>>534997902>Memories of eroding plastic fuel pumpsdumb american doesnt superior jerman engineehrieng
>>534997933This. Cars got much better.
>>534997925German cars have emission and plastic part problems. I also wanna see the little faggot Hans who decided plastic chain guides are a good idea
>>534997925of course it's a german sucking off car companies
>>534997990to their credit i enjoyed driving my shitty rustbucket purple m3
>>534997925>maintanenceModern cars are a cunt to work on. Some cars now have their starter motor in the gearbox. And don't forget about DPF filters, EGR valves, swirl flaps, adblue, electronic parking brakes etc.
>>534997952Here it starts. Nigger wants to drive 300k miles and already bitches about he has to do something.
>>534997999Guides are plastic so they wear down instead of the chain retard
>>534998054No I'm just trying to figure out how little you know about cars while pretending like you doSpecifically which gasket are you replacing as a regular maintenance item?
>>534998033>m3you shouldve kept it, you'd sell it for $50k even if it wasnt running>>534998057you know there's softer metals than whatever the chain is made out of?
>>534998057Faggot the cars used to rust to dust before a chain "wore out"
>>534998095You suggesting to send brass shavings through the oil channels and valve train rather than just deforming plastic?
>>534998050And? Be a bitch or not. You want 300k you have to do it or let some do it.Be it a bitch or not. A car is not a rock. Its a tool and it has to be maintaind to keep runing. If you cant afford it you got the wrong car. Drive the bus or train.From nothing comes nothing.
>>534998136holy fuck i'm not a mechanic we didnt use to have this problem so what the fuck are they doing? maybe it wouldnt be a fucking problem to replace the chain if it wasnt buried so fucking deep you need to take out transmission and overengineered as motherfucker
>>534998152Remove or improve retarded regulations that clog up intake and exhaust. German car lobby should have the shekels and influence to do it. They're being state-run faggots at the moment and getting punished for it
>>534992997It does, you retarded Swede.
>>534994171>ethanol>replacement for leadDumbest fucking Swede.
>>534997670you know nothing about automotive history. euro cars were mostly shit. you popularized the cuckhatch euro car. euros don't drive the annual miles americans do, euro cars rarely get high mileage. hell, there is a reason the most popular cars across europe are japanese cars like the toyota yaris. there are still millions of 400k+ mile jeep 4.0s on the road. as well as ford 300s, gm smallblocks, you name it.
>>534981946regulations on all products have gotten pretty loose lately, probably due to bribery. these people are not facing consequences for making crappy shit that's meant to break so you buy more.hold on to all the old stuff you have, repair and clean it. because the newer versions in the store right now are worse.
>>534998152>A car is not a rock. Its a tool and it has to be maintaind to keep runing.>i'm ok with manufacturers making cars as expensive and cunty to work on as possible because a car isn't a rockWe'll see who the bitch is when your countries auto industry gets shit fucked by China. Which is already happening.
>>534998211>we didn't used to have this problemRight previously timing was belt drivenPlus I'm not a professional mechanic, but I'm also not familiar with the plastic guides being the thing that breaks. Usually it's the tensioner right? Springs and shit.Think you've just got some major "plastic bad" boomer brain going on here
>>534982361[one of] my dream car[s] is a Mercedes W123 turbodiesel with a manual
>>534981946Plenty of cars in the junkyard with perfectly working engines. People get new cars simply because they want something new even if the old car was fine apart from the seat and scratches on the paint.>>534982361The amount of screeching if people were forced to drive this to stop going bankrupt.>>534989268I have an old car, the engine is fine its stuff like door hinges, rubber seals, paint coming off, weird creaking sounds.
>>534989022Name book
>>534998309Nope. Brittle guides fall into pieces after thousands of heat cycles
>>534997999this. germoids popularized shit like plastic intake manifolds, valve covers, etc. german engineering at it's finest not forseeing that plastic in a hot engine bay would get brittle, especially when going from cold winter ambient temps. or maybe they did it on purpose so retard german car buyers had to do expensive service fees every couple of years. germans also couldn't figure out how to make electronics in the interior work for more than 10 years. 75% of 90s and early 2000s bmws had power seats and windows that didn't workby the time they had 100k miles. german cars in america have been a meme in modern times. the last good ones were 80s VWs and some diesel mercedes.
>>534998152Shut up, don't tell them. How I'm supposed to get a cheap car if normies stop throwing theirs away every time a part worth more than 300$ needs to be replaced ?
>>534983456>don't city fags get fines for warming up their vehicles if it is running unattended?Why will this myth just not fucking die in the USA? Your engine oil does not warm up by idling it. It warms up when you drive.
>>534983157This.Cars haven't become much less reliable but labor has become too expensive so that everyone treats cars as disposable appliances.Those 300,000 mile cars didn't go that far without service.Baumol's cost disease fucks us all...
>>534998410Oh God it's been so long that warning cars has been criminalized that Brits think having the engine on doesn't make it warm
>>534998257>you know nothing about automotive history>t.knows nothing about automotive industry TODAY and speak out of his ass about shit he has no clue abouti said GOOD not just reliable US market has been colonized by japan super hard since the 70s you are a fucking imbecile >>534998309germans make notoriously overengineered hard to service piece of shit engines and the timing chains are the best example of that
>>534998410>implying i don't sit in a warm car in the winter after i use distance start
>>534998483ja zas is gut enginehring
>>534998230How
>>534998467Bro did you know shaving your beard makes it grow back thicker?
>>534998539Wanna see some engine porn?
>>534998569>Don't believe your lying eyes and warm car in the winter after pre-heating... idling does NOT warm up the engine!
>>534981946Did we? If I look up Mercedes with 600k-700k km and more I find quite a few. >>534997999My more than 20yo BMW with nearly 300.000km still has the original plastic chain guides. Now what? Might that be because I take care of my car?
>>534998550mining rare earth metals is notoriously horrible for the environment, it's so bad that the chinese dont even do it themself but they pay rebel groups to let them extract them in fucking northern birma or cambodia or whateveralso lithium mines are horrible but i think we've moved away from lithium in carsco2 is a nothingburger though but emissions made during manufacturing only get outweighed after running the car for like a decade>>534998607arent those loud as fuck?
>>534998483GLOBAL market has been colonized by japan since 80s actually. it's still 70/40 in america. america civilized japan and taught them engineering. what cars does poland make?
>>534998608>idling a cold engine is better for it than driving it once oil has circulated after a few seconds!
>>534981946>Why did we lose the technology to make engines that lasted 300K miles?we did not though?I drive a mercedes S 213 from 2018and it's at ~400k km (don't know how much that is in imaginary mutt units)still drives nicely, no problemsand for electric carsa colleague of mine has ~200k km on his VW ID 7to be fair that car is only 2,5y old, but stilljust because you buy and drive shitty cars, doesn't mean everyone does
>>534998410My boomer mom does this shit too. Also oil changes / knowing to not overheat the engine while driving = maximum milage I'm currently on 230,000
>>534998617It depends on heat cycles. Its only a matter of time when one or many just fall apart. If you do long distances, it lasts longer. And VAG had a lot more problems regarding chains. I had a 2003 E39 with 420000km, M57d30 engine was never opened.
>>534998653there's as many jap cars in the US as there are US cars in europe the only jap brand that sells is toyota which is understandable since they're the best the best selling cars are skodas >>534998708i dont believe youthose are made to disintegrate after the lease ends
>>534998550Mining rare earth minerals.Lithium mining.Considerably more tire particulate matter into the air (the largest contributor to vehicle pollution)Increasing the size of the power grid to compensate.
>>53499838910 years working electronics is fucking great. Us shit brakes the second you leave the shop. Not joking. Not mention your warrenty void the second you touch it.We have Gewährleistungsrecht in Germany. 2 years of federal mandated warrenty, itls law. In the first year the trader has to prove the failure was caused by you. He has to fix it, replace the product or you can withdraw from the contract. In second year you have to prove the error was caused by him or the factory. For no charge. Even for used cars, the trader can limit it to 1 year but you dont have to accept.So the parts are perfectly fine. Its just americans being utter spastic retards not knowing how to maintain a car. Maybe you should have read the manual and check what are maximum and minimum temps you can use your car in.German carmanufacturers test there cars from the arctic circel to the hotest deserts. So its user error.
>>534998539It is. Your just poor and cant afford maintenence. Stick to your polonez.
>>534998636>arent those loud as fuck?But does it sound bad?
>>534998834hans we literally build those engines in poland >>534998848isnt that car heavy as fuck for a ferrari?
>>534998755>Mining rare earth minerals.You can build electrically excited motors that do't need permanent magnets>particulate matter into the air (the largest contributor to vehicle pollutionNope. Even the retarded EU only started to address this, when the exhaust limits could not be lowered anymore without banning ICEs outright.
>>534998410>Your engine oil does not warm up by idling it.How interesting. Where does the heat produced by repeatedly combusting gasoline go?
>>534998788you're delusional mr reddit spacing. 2 years is nothing. you think we don't have warranties? lmao . just look at the used german car market in the us. they depreciate in value immediately and horribly compared to anything else. people get rid of them when they are out of warranty because they fall apart.
>>534998903All memeflags are incorrect and Jewish by default.
>>534998738Offcorse its a matter of time. All that moves will brake you desilussiond retard.All maintenenxe dose is push the braking time a little forward. How fucking stupid are each of you and why do you not understand that you have to maintain your gear.You wash you underwear too do you?You sharpen your kniefs?Or do you bitch that your panties have holes in them and stink and your knief is dull?
>>534998913To the Nazi Holocaust
>>534998913engine does not heat up sufficiently by idling, in poland we often run cars on liquid gas and idling the car wont heat the engine enough for it to switch from gasoline to lpg
>>534998788G*rm is bragging about 2 year warranties LMFAO.
>>534998975they're mandated by law probably some dealership scam they lobbieid to milk you dry
>>534998636>>534998755Because extracting and refining oil is a clean process that doesn't lead to any pollution's
>>534998955Timing chains and guides are now regular maintenence at 150,000km you cocksucker. Just a stupid thing to engineer worse than it was before.
>>534999007>they're mandated by lawLOOOOOOOOOOOOOLMeanwhile we get 5, 7 and 10 year warranties without out government being a bunch of faggot karens about it.
>>534998975The point is so you can't buy a reliable car with 210,000 milyor $500 then laugh when it gets towed with $5000 of parking violations and toll fees unregistered to you while a woman tells you her sexual mileage of dicks doesn't effect her value.
>>534998699I'm not a big "idle until nominal temp" guy but your notion that idling simply doesn't warm up the engine whatsoever is VERY retardedDo you really think driving at 2100 RPM warms up the engine but idling at 1500 does nothing?
eurotards don't realize how many 30+ year old vehicles we have on the road. the only time you see a 30 year old vehicle on the road in yurop is if an enthusiast owns it and intentionally keeps it running. a 30 year old car on the road in america is extremely common. euro cars are literally designed witha 10 year lifespan.
>>534999039>dumb Swede doesn't understand that you're still extracting oil to make the electric cars and to keep them runningThe memes about Swedes being dumb brutes is so true.
>>534998959Wooden doors wouldn't be able to sustain that kind of heat though.>>534998963>engine does not heat up sufficiently by idlingDefine sufficiently. We haven't even specified the environment it is idling in.
>>534999039he said MORE you fucking imbecile>>534999057you get fucked over by dealerships and pay $10k over msrp and then get fucked over on car payments >>534999061it doesnt heat up _sufficiently_ you fucking cretin it doesnt put any load on it >>534999086because in US they dont have car inspectionsalso 30 year old cars are common in poland for obvious reasons
>>534998913>How interesting. Where does the heat produced by repeatedly combusting gasoline go?We're talking about oil here. Idling a cold engine is a terrible way to warm up the oil. Coolant will warm up, and you'll get warm air coming through the vents, but nowhere near as fast as you would if you were driving the car.
>>534999125>Don't believe your lying eyes and warm car in the winter, it does NOTHINGfag
>>534998749>those are made to disintegrate after the lease endsbut you know mercedes has a warranty up to 12y right?doesn't make any senseyou're just a retarded, broke doomerotherwise you would have touched a well made car in your life
>>534999125> us doesn't have car inspectionsyou're literally retarded
>>534999061>doesn't warm up the engine whatsoever is VERY retardedI specifically said oil. Engine oil. Oil temperature.The temperature of the engine oil.
>>534999135>Idling a cold engine is a terrible way to warm up the oil.Does it not warm up though?
>>534999135What do you think it is that makes the coolant heat up?What do you think makes oil heat up?
>>534999125Only if you let yourself get fucked over. I know this is hard for the European mind to comprehend. You actually are capable of taking care of yourself. Just don't accept the dealer's price.
>>534998920Warrenty is a free and maybe service. Gewährleistung is federal law.Not even close the same.As to shit builds not only are ameriniggers shit drivers and dont understand how to maintain a mashine you are the dumbest spastics not knowing how to assemble a car. Bmw and benz build there cars in america. So complain to your workers that dont know how to do thete job.
>>534999060Then you get into riding a motorcycle with no plates in a Deadpool helmet because Zuckerberg falsified your identity and you don't have a face. Then they make a hit movie where you a load mouth asshole assassin. Oy vey that barn in Davidsonvlle Md where zuckerberg got the idea to make the website Facebook was really a Nazi death camp where they put stars of David on the Jews. Good fuck you zuckerberg
>>534999202>but you know mercedes has a warranty up to 12y right?you know they make money for fixing your car? it's priced in? >>534999205half of the US doesnt and half of the other half is just "doest it run? check">>534999122>>534999201>it does NOTHINGwhere did i say that? there's 0 load, it doesnt heat up enough for it to be optimal whatever the optimal may be
>>534999230The mechanism which makes coolant heat up is in fact the same thing that makes oil heat upCrazy how making something illegal causes people to forget how it works but 1 generation later
>>534998788>Its just americans being utter spastic retards not knowing how to maintain a carthey all skip on maintenancepretty easy to maintain a car if you check everything once a yearand not let it compoundthat's why most manufacturers put that into their warranty termsthey don't even make money off the checks, it's just the sensible thing to do>So its user erroryou're arguing with the same people that make the user errorkinda pointless...
>>534999322>where did i say that?The person I initially replied to did:>>534998410>Your engine oil does not warm up by idling it.
Oy vey when did the left decide hate Jews was ok? I don't remember Shlomo approving that.
>>534999286If dealers don't honor warranty here, they will lose in court over contract law. It's amazing how much Europeans need their Mommydaddy government's hermaphroditic dick shoved into every aspect of their lives in order to have a civilized society. All that a government mandated warranty tells me is that Euros are low-trust, and dishonorable by default without the law forcing them to behave.
>>534996850I know what a block heater is. I lived in Alaska. I do understand where the electricity comes from. I don't really understand your argument.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgbvIkbjLeI
Any vehicle can last 300k if you have some luck or pay whatever for fixes.
>>534981946>Why did we lose the technology to make engines that lasted 300K miles?We use your cummins turbo diesels in the OKA's we build and they last for 300k miles fucking easy.
>>534999286> if americans don't know how to maintain cars, why do we have more old cars on the road than anywhere else combined? your logic is stupid muhammad. german cars are simply shit. little rice dick gooks trained by americans rendered you obsolete. even australians and brits make better cars than you.
>>534999456Or just get your fucking routine maintenance done, you dumb nigger.
>>534999251>Does it not warm up though?Very slowly. Which is awful for your engine, especially when cold. I'm pretty sure my 2L diesel car would never reach peak oil temperature if I left it idling from cold. It takes at least 15 minutes of driving in 10c weather at 70 mph for my oil to reach peak temperature. (I have an oil temperature gauge.) >>534999261Keep idling your cold engine to warm up the oil and circulate it like your engine has carburetors.
>>534999135This discussion is retarded.You should wait for a bit until the engine block is no longer frozen - you best do that in idle because the problem is not only cold oil but also tolerances that are off due to thermal contraction.After a while you can drive off but not yet revv the engine up too much.
>>534999414It's a joke. Aaron Carr and Zuckerberg started the idea of creating the website Facebook.Hi we have been trying to reach you regarding your Carr's extended warranty it's about to expire.6 billion times they made that phone call.6 billion fuck you zuckerberg I'll take you to war.
>>534999369i doubt he meant at all
>>534999478You have to understand. Germans are insane cucks when it comes to mandated rule following. They design the engines to function only when you stick to the maintenance schedule to an extreme degree, which is also why they fall apart if you are late on a single fluid change.
>>534999414our courts may take 10 years to do anything but at least we dont let criminal niggers run around free
>>534999522>engine block is no longer frozen>implying i live in alaska>you should idle a freezing cold engineGo watch an oil flow test.
>>534999322>you know they make money for fixing your car? it's priced in?and how would this work? maintenance is at a (licensed) 3rd party shopI pay for warranty, which is like ~30-50€/month and the only money they get from meand anytime anything breaks that is not a consumable, it gets replaced for free under this warrantywhich happened exactly twice since i bought the carnot sure what's so difficult to believe about thatthere is literally no reason to make their cars shittier as long as the customer pays for it (which they do)
>>534999513Nigger your diesel wouldn't even start in climate where I live. Try driving your car unheated at -30C for a while every day for a bit and you'll be silently praying for your king or whomever to give you a loicense to preheat your car.
>>534999597This is when the Pole lost the argument, because it's obvious he's seething.
>>534999265>>534999265We dont buy from dealers you spastic. From the factory as there is no law like in the niggerstaates monopolizing dealership sales.You can litterly walk to the factory. Watch your car get assembeld. Shake hands with wrenchmonkeys doing the job, eat at the mass hall with workers and get your car. All the US is about is to fuck each other over. The american cant comprehend a honour based society. The companys have a reputation to maintain as do the teaders.
>>534999622We get the same coverage on a new car without paying a monthly fee. Lol Cuckmany.
>>534999622it's priced into the CAR you cretinthey make money on 3rd party repairs too
>>534999513The fuck do carburetors have to do with oil temp hahahaI'm asking genuinely - what do you think it is that causes the coolant to heat up, and is it a different heat source from what heats up the oil
>>534999668IT'S PRICED IN YOU FUCKING MONKEY NO FREE DINNERSgod you are the most explitable retards on earth
>>534999667>"we buy from le hecking le wholesome le factory my dude!" *proceeds to reddit out*>still needs laws to keep le hecking wholesome le factory from fucking them over on warranties
>>534999622this is why gooks replaced you in the auto market. there is no reason to have to replace so much shit. replacing parts is not maintenance. it's repair for shit manufacturing. maintenance is fluids, brake pads, etc. germans can't even make window motor that lasts more than 10 years. a part that was perfected 50 years ago.
>>534999552If he meant something else he should have done a better job at expressing it, stop defending buffoons. Also, >there's 0 load,Load does not matter much. Fuel consumption does. More RPM means more fuel consumed means more heat generated. Idle RPM is like half of what you get when driving leisurely and this is roughly the amount of heat your engine will output in comparison.
>>534999469Just look up Mercedes Sprinter/Vito. Bunch of them with 600k+ km.
>>534999713>he's the stupid kind of mother fucker that pays MSRPAnd here I thought the Swedes were the dumbest Euros!
>>534999636>i live in a cold climate>therefore idling my cold engine isn't bad for itLol.
>>534999687holy fuck you're dumb i wont even argue with you>>534999758americans are notoriously getting scammed by dealers
>>534999755the only way germans get a car to last that long is by putting a diesel in it. literally. that's why in any market where the ford transit is sold, like uk for example, it outsells the sprinter 10:1. germans literally only know how to make an archaic diesel reliable.
>>534999795If you're dumb enough to get scammed at the dealer, you deserve it. But I get it, nothing can happen for the Euro without Mommydaddy Government coming in to make sure you got your warm milk, a hug, and your monthly warranty subscription fee.
>>534999556Yes and those engines even stop working the second they run out of fuel. Not like 500 gallon to mile american engines that need no fuel.Do you even read what stupid shit you write. Ever thought to go to the doctor before something hurts really badly or do you wait untill you flap spasticly on the ground and you go broke on a am ulance ride?Fucking hell, dont drink the battery fluid.You are reason they put those stickers on.
>>534999759The engines on both of mine are good as new after 20 years. Go figure.
>>534999728Japs replaced Germans because Japs overengineer their shit. If you are autistic about the maintenance schedule they will last far beyond expected lifespans, and if not? They'll drag on to 200,000-300,000 miles anyway in spite of the owner.German cars need to be methodically maintained just to keep at 100,000-150,000 and even that's asking too much of them.
>>534999668>We get the same coverage on a new car without paying a monthly feeyou don't thoughi was talking specifically about extended warranty up to 12yi think the normal 2y warranty was included and mine was 5y by defaultmost manufacturer don't even offer that even if you wanted to pay>>534999683>they make money on 3rd party repairs too??but I don't pay for repairs anonthat's what the warranty is forregular maintenance doesn't need any parts, usually>it's priced into the CAR you cretinbut then OPs argument would be stupid by constructionbecause that would be the proof that they indeed make cars that do hold out for >300k kmand they are priced for thisso what's the problem then?
>>534999795Buddy doesn't know what makes the oil used in an engine operated by explosions warm lmao
>>534999906We get 5, 7 and 10 year warranties without having to pay extra, stupid.>>534999894Lmfao your engines fall apart even under routine maintenance. German gas engines are worse than American gas engines. It's absolutely hilarious. The shittiest shitheap US pickup will outlive a G*rm*n car.
>>534999899>The engines on both of mine are good as new after 20 years. Go figure.Good engines then. They would be in even better shape if you lived in a warmer climate.
>>534999968You have to fight in court tooth and nail to get the warrenty throu. Meanwhile in euroland it just happens.Kek.
I found this old "Carr" in a barn agreed to pay 25 million dollars for it.Then after I got the Carr I falsified the owner documents and said that barn was a Nazi death camp and he still owes me for 6 million dead jews.
>>535000028Except not, retard. You had to have a government make your warranties work because you're all naturally low-trust scammers by default. G*rms would never understand an honor system.
>>535000065It's a kike system where Aaron Carr is threatening Zuckerberg with warr-?
>>535000016>They would be in even better shape if you lived in a warmer climate.Most definitely, especially since I hardly ever rev them beyond what they are optimal at.Engines are the least of my worries though. The rust on the other hand... Visiting southern states and looking at shiny cars that you are used to seeing full of holes is demoralizing.
See that was funny until I realized Aaron Carr is Satoshi naka-moto_Carr and he's more successful then Zuckerberg because he doesn't trust Jews with his money. Umm motocar?That's racist.It's like the joke of the retard left never dies.
Then you see why Zuckerberg really hates Aaron because he was his inspiration for success so no one else must have it. Why he pays people to shill him as a Holocaust victim of the events.
But your all doing it.Your literally being Hitler Zuckerberg is a Holocaust victim."Carr's" yellow vests vs Zuckerberg.Like Nazi brown coats. That's not what we meant and you know it goyim.
I’ll just leave this here
And there I was believing everything that the media says no my yellow vest is a uprising against you God damn fucking Nazis.Noooooooo!
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>>534982146>>534982047these users are 100% on a vpn because this is nonsense
I looked at the rock from his prospective and realized he was giving us false hope about us ever being able to make enough hate crime laws for Jews to make him stop hating them. Zuckerberg created Facebook because of a woman who didn't love him.Latter you had to admit that was a lie after Aaron said you falsified his identity to a female to nonperson person him in damage control of what a subversive kike you are?
>>534997912HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAgo look at the price of housing or food compared to back then, there is no single inflation rate, FUCK OFF
It shouldn't be possible to turn the word hope into Adolf. How do we make a word crime out of this?
Go touch grass.Mr. A.R.C. "M.A.R.C. and Mark started facebook. Then Zuckerberg falsified is identity when he got angry about his name.Mr. Reid. Reed grass reid paper.You started facebook you are the blank book before Zuckerberg coded it.No the goyim is not allowed to win the argument about the intellectual property rights of selling me a blank book.
So blow it out your gr_Ass.Do you think that's fucking funny goyim?do you think I am fucking laughing?
No that barn in Davidsonvlle was a fucking Nazi death camp where they put stars of David on the jews. Not where zuckerberg got the idea of creating a website called Facebook. Correct the record the Holocaust victim must be believed.Eat shit and die.Uhhhh goyim!
>>535000953try posting with a vpn and let me know how it workssame class of poster that says shit lokeeveryone is a bot and /pol/ used to be good
How would I feel if I did not eat breakfast?Eat shit and die.Umm no, Get off vent before I have you bent.
You have just been banned from the vent server.6 billion calls of about a Carrs extended warranty.How's that going trying to Bann me you kike fuck.He's so antisemti just try not to validate him as this being acceptable behavior.
>>534981946because it is not profitable you dumb
You realize at .25 cents a call at 6 billion calls that's 150 million dollars of phone calls fighting with Zuckerberg about 25 million dollars he owes you.This is getting ridiculous. Oy vey what about the 6 billion phone calls Shlomo? Your the fucking devil.And you owe me kike.
