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Microsoft promises Windows 11 is becoming real good

New Win11 feature will speed up all launches and flyouts by a significant amount. The feature is called "Low Latency Profile," and works by briefly maxing out CPU frequency in short bursts to achieve faster response times.

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/apple-does-this-and-yall-love-it-microsoft-vp-fires-back-at-trolls-over-windows-11s-new-performance-boost-feature-its-not-cheating-this-is-how-modern-systems-make-apps-feel-fast

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/microsoft-optimizes-winui-3-framework-to-increase-windows-11-responsiveness

This is a common practice, one that Apple and Google have adopted on their own platforms in recent years, yet the Low Latency Profile feature on Windows 11 has been met with a surprising amount of pushback.

Users online are calling this a "lazy" solution to fix Windows 11's performance problems, and others are criticizing Microsoft for not optimizing the code to speed up performance instead.

Now, Microsoft VP Scott Hanselman has taken to X to respond to these trolls,

>explaining how and why this new Low Latency Profile feature is actually good for you and overall beneficial to end users.

"All modern operating systems do this, including macOS and Linux. It's not "cheating"; this is how modern systems make apps feel fast: they temporarily boost the CPU speed and prioritize interactive tasks to reduce latency."

Of course, the new Low Latency Profile is being worked on in addition to actually optimizing legacy code. Microsoft is doing both to ensure Windows 11 feels fast, performant, and stable. A lot of people online continue to dunk on Windows 11's progress, but the reality is that Microsoft is delivering positive changes and results. In our testing, the new Low Latency Profile feature really does make a noticeable difference in overall OS speed.
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>>534984503
>wall of text

it has AI slop in it, it wont be efficient it will just be spyware
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Windows 11's performance is being improved through Microsoft's ongoing Windows K2 initiative. A key part of that effort is transitioning core elements of Windows 11 to WinUI 3, the native framework of Windows.

But Microsoft is doing more than just rebuilding the Start menu and other parts of the OS using WinUI, the tech giant is improving WinUI itself. A post on GitHub details Microsoft's work to improve WinUI, which will lead to even better performance of elements rebuilt using the framework.

"Our mission is to make WinUI 3 the best native UI platform for Windows experiences and apps and performance is at the heart of that effort," says the post by software engineer Beth Pan. They later added that, "Making this a reality means delivering performance improvements at multiple levels, including within WinUI itself."

Microsoft says that we can expect to see the changes hit the development branch "soon." After that, the improvements will make their way to the winui3/main branch.

A comment by Pan expands on the importance of improving the WinUI framework alongside making other improvements:

"The approach here is we do what we can from framework side, and obv other teams in Windows also investigated and been doing work to improve overall launch perf, we connect/collaborate frequently to make sure the improvements will be end-to-end. It's a long-term commitment for fundamentals and quality."

Windows 11 has been highly criticized for how long it takes to load core parts of the operating system. Moving those elements to WinUI, improving WinUI itself, and rolling out features like Low Latency Profile mode will result in a much snappier Windows 11.
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Windows won't be "real good" until all the jeets are gone.
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On demand CPU frequency scaling already exists so this sounds like pure bs
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>>534984503
Won't this hammer the CPU?

PSP games emulate well on Android because both are ARM processors. Not some Jeetboost
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>>534984503
I havent noticed much latency opening the explorer. I timed it, about 680ms
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>>534984753
yes it will use CPU time a lot

Microsofts logics are this
"you have CPU power so might as well use it"
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>>534984503
Windows has been a bloated piece of shit ever since windows 8.1
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>>534984503
I am never using this shit.
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>>534984503
Who cares what faggotsoft does, Windows is dead.

t. Linux User
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Microsoft Word is even worse now.
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Planned obsolescence. Need to wear out those CPU's faster so that people spend more money on buying more, better, pricier, versions of the same thing. I wonder how long it will take for this feature to be always enabled and hidden with no way of turning it off.
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>>534985034
Learn LaTeX you faggot
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>>534984503
>Microsoft promises Windows 11 is becoming real good
translation: SAAR BUY OUR WINDOWS! WE PROMISE ITS GOOD NOW, SAAR.. SAAR?! SAAR!!!
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>>534985050
Even PS3 is guilty of running the fans quiet and burning out the CPU in the process. I believe it.
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>>534984604
This
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>>534984503
> Lets render ram and multitasking apps useless
Kek
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>Windows performance issues due to unnecessary bloat is being enhanced by...adding more bloat!
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>>534984503
windows 1nd1a is a total disaster
they've spent so much time trying to make it work that they forgot to develop the next version of windows
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>>534984503
It's pajeetslop that they're trying to save by frying your CPU.
It needs a complete rewrite.
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>>534984567
did they fire this retard yet?
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You can't even turn off autoupdates without looking up a guide or running some guy's batch file. Windows 11 is cooked.
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just put a nuclear reactor in your pc problem solved.
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>>534988489
oh yeah and windows 1nd1a is just a literal reskin of windows 10
so they haven't developed an actual new operating system since 2015
their jeet CEO took over 2014
what a coincidence
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>>534984503
>Start computer
>Stand by we are checking the data on your hdd
>While you wait heres a pop up add on your desktop screen
>Almost done... updating... uploading newest spyware to your computer from Tel Aviv
>Bing Bing Boooong windows starting... pop up of the newest goyslop burger

T-Thanks window 10... i mean window 11
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Pajeets are ruining windows
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>>534984503
>year 20266
>still using windows
ngmi
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>>534988639
but you vill be safe, don't you want to be safe?
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>>534984503
write about the ice swimming championships in finland and the vegan athlete who won
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>>534984503
>Company fires back at dissatisfied customers; take that you effing trolls!
interesting dynamic. We love our "free market" don't we folks
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>>534984503
never again..
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>>534988602
What the fuck? Is that real?
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>>534984503
I just want to personally thank all you techbros for doing all the work and research into all the Linux stuff so dummies like me could switch over nice and easy. I know very little about this stuff. The only experience I ever had with programming was some ActionScript 2.0 from the Flash days lol. But I switched to Nobara KDE Linux and it's been absolutely seamless and perfect. I mean fuck, I wish I had done this a long time ago. I'm sure it's not the greatest distro or whatever and I wanted my baby normie GUI. I haven't had to troubleshoot JACK SHIT since I switched and I've been able to play ALL my Steam Games (except Chivalry 2) without any issues or fussing. The computer boots up instantly and works exactly as a normal computer does. ITS FUCKING GREAT.
So thank you all for doing the work so dipshits like me didn't have to. I'll never ever go back.
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Lol. LMAO even
Fuck winblows
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>>534984503
>>534984551
>>534984567
>>534984604
>>534984736
why are you advertising bill gates mossad spyware pedophile os on /r/pol
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>>534984503
>microslop
>winblows
>jeet coded spyware and advertising platform pretending to be an OS
>underhanded data harvesting for ai

if you still use m$ products in current year you're a fucking retard
>b-but muh gaemz!!?
you're a fucking retard. Certain other platforms have had vidya gaymes for a very long time. You're a retarded piece of shit for supporting m$ and for being such a weak little pussy that you can't ween yourself off whatever goyslop you're addicted to for two fucking seconds and remain a digital serf and a data cow by choice
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>>534984753
psp was a mips processor. not arm.
don't talk about things you know nothing about.
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I'm just going to install gentoo instead OP
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>>534988602
no fucking way that's real
I mean I expected pretty much exactly that level of faggotry and arrogance from a microslop faggot but to see one of those retarded doofuses actually say it in public and try to own it... just beggars belief
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>>534984503
>>534984753
windows 11 can only be improved by removing any unnecessary bloat for cleaner, lower workloads rather than pushing the processes harder while keeping the bloat intact (wasteful AI copilot shit, recall, more telemetries)
remove all the background bloatwares, hidden spyware tasks, background telemetry, diagnostics.

>>534991534
use windows 7 for old PC/notebook
newer one, use 10 (LTSC) or linux, could even dual boot
use macbook if you have money to burn or workplace provide you one

apple ecosystem is as pozzed as ever but picking apple is more than enough to piss off google
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>>534984503
Windows has notoriously never handled hardware usage spikes in an elegant manner. I can still easily crash DWM if I forget to unload an AI model before moving over to another AI application that wants that same 24GB of VRAM and I just uninstalled the Xbox app because it was riding 32 cores as hard as it could all the time (you just had to launch it). So, this rework is probably going to be ass for a good long while before they figure it out and make it usable.
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>>534984503
I don't use windows. You could cover it in sugar and sexy naked ladies but I'm not going back, it's been almost 14 years.
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>>534991698
>use macbook if you have money to burn or workplace provide you one
>money to burn
Macbooks are the best value notebooks nowadays
It's strange to say that but its true
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>>534984503
pretty sure I saw devs talking about this and they were bragging about making 105ms delay take like 96 ms... 96 ms to open a new window is still insanely slow considering how good modern hardware is.
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>>534988602
I still don't think this is real.
Has to be a troll account or something.
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>>534984503
alternatively
use an aggressive series of patches, shell mods and security programs to gut cripple and otherwise disable all the tracking and data shit
windows works pretty good without it
remember to get replacements for the start menu and such, for some retarded reason it's a web app in that annoying spyware language mobile 'designers' like
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>>534984503
If you're still not using Linux in [current year], you're genuinely retarded
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>>534984567
>transitioning core elements of Windows 11 to WinUI 3, the native framework of Windows.
>vibecoded rust that might as well be javaVM runs the core elelements of win11
It is that bad
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it's shit
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>>534984503
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Windows, is in fact, AI Slop/Windows, or as I've recently taken to calling it, AI Slop plus Windows. Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather a wrapper for a fully functioning slop shoveling system made useful for the slop miners, spyware, and vibecoded components comprising a fully enshitified OS as defined by our shareholders.

Many AI Slop enjoyers run a modified version of an AI Slop system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of AI Slop which is widely used today is often called Windows, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the AI Slop system, developed by AI Slop Pajeets.

There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the AI Slop system they use. Slop is at the core: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs it wants to run at the users expense. This core is an essential part of an modern operating system, it cluls be otherwise useful by itself; shoveling can only function in the context of a complete AI Slop Shoveling system. Windows is normally used in combination with the AI Slop shoveling system: the whole system is basically AI Slop with windows added, or AI Slop/Windows. All the so-called Windows distributions are really distributions of AI Slop/Windows.
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>>534984503
it's like hiring more indians to do an inefficient task instead of making the task efficient
high ram, high cpu, they just take people's resources for granted
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>>534984503
too late im already moving over to ubuntu
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>>534984503
Still using Windows 10 and it just werks, miss me with that gay shit
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>>534984503
Or you could just remove all the garbage and bloat? Or allow the users to do it easily? How much performance would that save? Seriously, Microsoft could be the ultimate OS and even wipe Linux off the map entirely if they actually cared about optimising things. I am still on Windows 10 and using Linux on another machine because Windows 11 is so shit.
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I hear about dual booting, but what about VMs? And what would you open in it -- Windows 10? 7? How much does it matter?
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>>534984503
All this kvetching and fighting over consumer slop when they already have quantum computers deep in government bunkers.
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>>534984503
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>>534984503

Oldfag here.

Computers were faster in the 1990s. WHen I type into MS Word today, it is significantly slower than in the early 1990s on some 286 or 386SX.

134K transistors in a 286 at 16-20MHz.

Modern Intel desktop chip is 100 to 200 billion transistors and 5 to 6 GHz.
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>>534984503
>>>/g/
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>>534984604
/thread
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>>534984567
tl;dr
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>>534985026
>WHO CARES I EAT SHIT AND LIKE IT
lol
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windows 11 is buggy as shit, I've used it for two months
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>criticizing Microsoft for not optimizing the code to speed up performance instead
Yeah, nah... I don't think the days of optimising anything will ever be coming back -- not without a GJG* (Global Jeet Genocide).

>*you heard the meme here first
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>>534984503
>windows promises to break your cpu faster
repetitive cyclic stress something something...
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>>534984503
>we need to fully max out your CPU to pull up the explorer
completely jeeted software, kek
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>>534984503
>>534995189
Modern Operating Systems are so depressing. Almost every developer is wasting ressources to make it look futuristic and fancy. Guess many people don't have a problem with things taking 50ms that could have been handled in 50us instead, even If this means a showdown by factor 1000.

Around 2010 I got one of these 250 buck 10'' inch netbooks with a Linux based OS and installed all kind of crap to make it look cool. Later I install only the base system and was impressed how fast and smooth everything worked. The fancy settings on a brand new hardware isn't faster at all. It's only loaded with more crap.
Today for me it's only a Linux (Debian or Arch) with LXDE and watching things working at lightspeed.
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>>534988639
I am glad that they stopped updating 10, because now at least my machine won't suddenly wake itself up in the middle of the night to run an update at max fan speed, kek
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>>534984604
the only solution for microsoft
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>>534984503
>Low Latency Profile
More like
Smart Adaptive Application Response
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>>534995189
yep
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>>534995189
>Computers were faster in the 1990s.
Back then a lot of their core functions were written in ASM, which didn't have any of higher language (Goyslop) overhead.

Clearly though, teaching ASM isn't profitable because it's usually only White Males that can do it. Not always, but usually.
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>>534984503
>fires everybody who uses windows.
>updates windows anyway...

Lol?
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>>534993662

hahahahahaha my fucking sides

AI Slop+ windows hahahaha
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>>534984503
I really need a different OS besides Windalits. Diaper code has ruined microsoft.

Gotta buy a new laptop soon. Can anyone suggest an OS to drop onto it
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>>534988602
Reminds me of Polkit.
>WTF why do I have to compile Spidermonkey to build Polkit?
>WTF it uses Javascript for configuration files?
>People ask the maintainer why
>"I'm a Javascript developer lmao"
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>>534984503
>shit system drains even more resources in order to have basic fucking functionality
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>>534984503
Meanwhile I'm using an 11 years old elitedesk mini with an i5-6600T, Debian lxqt and it is just fast as fuck.
Microsoft completely lost the plot.
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>>534993662
lololololol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlD9UBTcSW4
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gemmie >>534993662
fuck microsoft
fuck jeets
fuck landlords and whores

you have to be clinically retarded to use windows in 2026 if you are not being forced to
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>our shit lags so hard
>more power will fix it
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>>534984503
Hey, as long as your fine with Microsoft handing all your data to whoever, you're best off sticking with it. O, and that includes all your encrypted data.

I'm fine with homosexuals, so you just be you
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>>534998326
>fuck microsoft
>fuck jeets
>fuck landlords and whores
You forgot Jews
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>>534988602
>>534991041
>>534991691
>>534992481
that post might be a troll, but there IS react in win11 start menu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMJNEFHj8b8&t=287s
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>>534984503
>also we're adding CoPilot to the start menu, the search bar, your internet browser, your login screen, and every other program you open which will record your screen and all your keystrokes and you can't turn it off and it runs 24/7. Also you will now be served adds in the lock screen. And no you can't change the appearance of the start menu.
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>>534984503
windows 11 is a tranny libtard
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that doesn't make any sense. i have a 9800X3D and it runs at 5ghz at all the time, only spiking to 5.2-5.3ghz under heavy load like games. i'm pretty sure all modern CPU's do something like this regardless of the operation system.
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>>534984503
never upgrading
im gonna dig out my old windows 7 machine
lick my balls
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>>534988602
>>534991041
>>534991691
https://nitter.poast.org/philtrem22/status/1927161666732523596
i'm calling fake, funny though
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>>535001848
>working two jobs
do wagies really?
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>>534984503
Buy an ad nigger
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>>534984839
680 ms is retardedly slow for opening a file browser
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>>534984503
Older operating systems didn't need this bullshit.
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>>534984503
>>534984753
SAAR CPU SPIKES ARE NORMAL SAAR OLD WINDOWS CODE IS TOO COMPLEX FOR H1B DIARHEAJEET BRAIN
DO NOT REDEEM CRITICISM
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>>534984503
imagine how shit the world will be in 20 years when today our whole modern tech infrastructure needs a 4 GHz quad core maxing out just to open your mail program in a reasonable amount of time.
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Cachy got em shook
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>>534984503
Just release the source code of Windows 7.
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>>534984503

I bet there is still least 100 subprocesses running all the time and consuming 3 gigabytes of memory...and no documentation what they doing and how to turn them off.
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>>534984503
M$ should open source the Windows 7 source code
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>>534984567
>WinUI 3
Oh lol no no no
I have already seen this bullshit once, with UWP and WPF. At this point only a comp;ete idiot or a boomer bound by Microsoft relies on native Windows UI libraries.
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>>534984839
You realize that games are putting 100 dudes on the screen shooting at each other in 4K in under 16ms, right?
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If it still requires a secure boot tmp 2.0 module I'll continue not to support or promote windows 11 to clients. Simple as. I havent had one person demand it ever.

Refusing to move along with microsoft saved me thousands upon thousands of dollars and my business has improved besides. Stuffing w11 with AI spyware for end-users is one thing, but trying to burn my MB inventory is another. Microsoft can get fucked, its politician-bribing corpobully monopoly bullshit makes it an enemy. I would rather change careers than buy in.
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>>535006769
>no documentation what they doing and how to turn them off.
to document them, Microsoft would have to understand them
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>>534984503
great, windows will now damage your motherboard with constant overclocking. yay
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Some kind of a single point of failure in WebView2 in W10 and W11 is so broken it could freeze explorer.exe and stop new windows from opening, if you have opened too many processes using it.
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>>534984503
Still not going to use your jeetware
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>>535006784
>>535006594
microjeet should just drop windows completely and adopt freebsd or linux. then let their jeets to make a desktop environment for it like unity or something
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Microsoft thinks anything you can do with the computer is a missed opportunity to charge you monthly and sell additional data to israel
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>>535006936
Microsoft used to have a state of art documentation in times of Windows 9x up to Windows 7.
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>>534984503
If you dejeetify Windows now, you wouldn't be left with much. Corruption status terminal.
A fresh start is needed. Sanction it into opening up its code and let nature take its course.
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>>534984604
It'll still take 5 years of assembly writing to fix what Hindows broke.
Fuck, they might have to start from scratch.
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>>535006852

TMP is the gateway to DigitalID all the time for everyone on every device linked to your Goyid chip located subdermally in your hand
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>>534998009
I have to watch top output a lot at work, and fuckin' polkitd is always jumping to the top of the list for no fucking good reason.
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>>534988602
>why would I let such considerations (performance) get in the way of my Tiger tank?
It'd be nice if it didn't break every 30 miles, that's why.
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>>534984503
Wait, let me update mine so I can check.
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>>535007005
But there's nothing wrong with the NT kernel itself. It's the userspace bloat and web- based UI that ruins it now.
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>>534984896
Windows 7 was the start, even though some people consider it beloved because it had less spyware it's still nothing compared to Win9x and XP.
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>>534991564
Don't be a nigger now.
Both are RISC.
ARM has performance issues when emulating x86 and other larger instruction sets precisely because it has to translate big instructions into several smaller ones.
With PSP being MIPS, that's not a problem.
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>>535007282
Windows 7 was just Vista with all service packs and an extra DRM check upon the activation (how often do you change motherboard while running the same Windows installation?)
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>>535007246
I know what you mean but the NT kernel still has warts. I'm sure any old school Windows dev would be glad to tell you the hacky and goofy shit in the kernel that should probably be replaced/updated.

Just like how in XP-era Microsoft fucked up the PAE extensions allowing >4GB of RAM on 32-bit systems. So it was left present but disabled and later users basically patched it and enabled it.
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>>535001510
CPUs have been turbo boosting single threads on execution for over a decade now.
Motherboards and CPUs take care of it already.
It's a non-feature to have in Windows for x86, but who knows, maybe they're not staying x86.
Windows for ARM has been a thermonuclear disaster but they wouldn't bother developing it if they didn't have a deployment target in their sights.
They wanna bring Windows to ARM for when Nvidia's gay chip becomes available and dumbass gamers want it.
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>>535007246
I don't know why they kept uwp, wasn't this supposed to be on windows phones, it doesn't belong on the desktop
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>>535007005
>>535006784
>>535006594
They should outsource it to several bidders instead of coding it all by themselves.
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>>535007535
>hacky and goofy shit in the kernel
you mean backwards compatibility code, something present in all decades old mature projects
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>>535007426
Aero UI was neat and the DWM stuff for live-previews was cool for the time but Windows Vista still didn't run as smoothly on hardware compared to XP.

Fun fact, Intel Core 2 Duo/Quad are the latest supported processors for Windows XP. It's better to use the Duos because the higher clock speeds help more than the 4 cores in most situations because apps typically weren't multi-threaded in a meaningful way back then (especially games).

XP also supports the GeForce 9 series officially (though its not difficult to get 10-series working with modified community drivers). I have a couple builds with high-end Core 2 Duo and 980 Ti, games absolutely fly on that. Playing Unreal Tournament + 2K4 at flawless frame-rates.

In fact, in many cases if you found a similar era machine that was sold with Windows Vista (badged on those Dells etc) it was better if you just re-installed XP on it instead. Not because of the driver situation which was mostly older hardware trying to update to Vista. It was just because Vista/7 are heavier.

Same situation with those early Asus netbooks. Vista was a disaster compared to XP due to limited resources.

XP SP3 was the best desktop OS because it was the first home edition based on the NT kernel. I ran Windows 2000 for a while as well but that wasn't mainstream for users.
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>>535007809

gotta keep those government systems running on 386 'puters at the DMV or IRC ... Franch and Germany seem to have decided enough is enough and going full Linux for it's own Gov Dept's now
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JeetOS.

Just fuckin design it correctly.
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>>534984503
You could achieve the same results by using the same functionality as windows XP, without needing to overclock the CPU. LOL
>>534984604
Based. Best thing for windows is to remove bill gates from office
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>>535007809
no I don't mean (just) that. and it's not present in all decades old mature projects, Apple was quite the opposite. they would cut this stuff out of their OS and kernel and I'm sure Linux does too over time.

Microsoft is notorious for doing this in Windows since they have the enterprise and business world that relies on their decades old applications running on the next version of Windows despite that vendor no longer existing or updating their app. the German train system still uses floppy disks and I think their Navy does too still.

I don't mean it's necessarily a bad thing, I have to give credit for Microsoft to put in the work to make apps still work despite serious changes in the OS, which technically shouldn't be their problem.

What I meant was other issues and limitations of the kernel. I watch and read a lot of Dave's Garage and others who were deep in Windows development in the early eras and they have a lot to say about it.

Windows for the longest time had several security issues that Linux fixed a long time ago. They still do have a bunch, for example reading/writing process memory. In fact, this is why anti-cheat for games works on Windows and breaks on Linux because userland shit does not have access to that kind of snooping spyware "DRM" or "anti-cheat" (process memory manipulation).
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>>534988602
>just buy more RAM ahh response
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>>535007902
>XP SP3 was the best desktop OS
No argument here. Contrary to popular beliefs it's as close to the best PC software as it could possibly be.
> It was just because Vista/7 are heavier.
300 MB RAM instead of 100, the most of it reserved for hardware communication. Not that much unless you were convinced thatr 2 GB RAM is enough and you will never need more.
Both systems got bad reputation because they had enabled by default that funny feature pre- loading .dlls required for the most often used applications to the memory upon the boot. In practice you could never notice it without nerds making fuss about it online.
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>>534984503
Grrrr..Stupid bloatware....trying to make me install windows 11!! USB correction is needed!!!
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>>535007933
>retarded post
>bong flag
Figures
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>>534991698
A broken clock is right twice a day.. first time I seen a yid flag tell the truth in years
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>>535008212
>Windows for the longest time had several security issues that Linux fixed a long time ago
It's a meme. Linux software is crawling with CVEs, all security issues are treated as normal "bugs" in a husg- hush way, and the most basic system features are seriously underdeveloped. We are taking about "stuck in 70s mainframe room" underdeveloped.
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>>534995189
Based and correct pilled
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>>535008265
>300 MB RAM instead of 100
yeah but on a lot of machines that shipped with 512MB (on a single stick no less) it was going to be a bad time. the min specs mentioned this as the requirements, though 1GB was "recommended".

it wasn't so much that preloading dlls would be (just) a memory issue, you have to remember we're in the era of spinning hard drives and 5400rpm at that in many cases. yeah if you were a PC builder you might know to get a better 7200 drive with higher cache but your average consumer Dell or HP is going to have OEM cheap parts.

then factor in single channel DDR2/3 because a lot of PCs came with just one stick of RAM which the average user didn't know you could and SHOULD upgrade with another stick.
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>>534997950
Windows 10 LTSC (essential’s only, still bloated but as good as youre gonna get on that dogass OS)
7 is good but still a little bloated
If you wanna deal with the headaches of frequently adjusting to new tech and have ample time you can look for a linux distro like mint or ubuntu. The choice is yours. TEMPLE OS if you’re feeling esoteric and don’t want modern applications whatsoever. IDK, never actually tried it but it looked very interesting
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>>535006594
Fuck I wish. Lifesaver.
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>>535008212
>They still do have a bunch, for example reading/writing process memory.
Memory protection and separate virtual memory for individual processes is a norm since the deployment the first NT kernel.
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>>535007902
Based
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>>534984604
This ffs
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>>535008449
Every piece of software has these, I am not sure why you are singling out Linux as if it would have more than Windows. Unless you're suggesting that Microsoft has fixed "most" of them over time due to being a larger attack vector compared to Linux. I disagree with that though.

Another fun fact, a lot of ATM machines here in the US still run on WinXP embedded. I worked in the financial sector for a while and the red/blue pentest teams would basically be able to infiltrate the entire ATM network and stay dormant on it for months without being detected.

In the era of AI and rapid exploit discovery you are going to see Linux popup more now because it's easier to find them especially in an open-source codebase. It also means they can be fixed instead of remaining as 0-day in something closed source like Windows.

The downfall of Windows will be Microsoft adding bullshit upon bullshit into the OS that no one asked for. Like the recent Notepad hack because they added Copilot to it. Not necessarily the kernel's issue but it's a built-in and heavily used Windows app for a lot of users.
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>>535008858
I'm not talking about virtual memory. I'm talking about Win32 APIs like Read/Write process memory, CreateProcessEx, LoadLibrary, FreeLibrary, CreateRemoteThread, etc.

The fact that another user program can essentially hijack another process through DLL injection or peek/poke, or writing to "code caves" found from scanning the process memory then creating a remote thread in it is absolutely fucking wild.

And that's just the tip the of the iceberg.

>t. wrote countless game hacks and exploits for decades
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>>535008719
>spinning hard drives
I use still use them. You are aware there is a cache mechanism in both the hardware and OS to smooth things up, are you? And that software back then wasn't (unlike today) consisting of HUNDREDS of unique dlls per .exe?
We are living in age of excess in the IT, and hardware out of science fiction movies barely makes it tolerable for the end user.
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>>535009114
>nother user program can essentially hijack another process through DLL injection or peek/poke
The result in 99,9% of attempts:
The process made illegal operation and will be closed. Details: access violation at 0xBEEFDEADCAFE.
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i wiped windows on all my pcs and installed linux
they all got way faster haha



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