What's stopping other leaders from working like Mamdani?Rightoids kept telling me that leftists are only capable of endless spending and budget deficits.
>>535022105rightoids are too busy sucking billionaire and corporation dick
>>535022105>Budget Relief: As of May 13, 2026, Mayor Zohran Mamdani reported closing a $12 billion city budget gap, heavily reliant on approximately $8 billion in state support over two years, including direct aid and state-authorized programs.Asking for more gibs to cover the cost of your current gibs might get you headlines, but it doesn't fix the problem.
>>535022105There were 12 billion dollars budgeted to programs that did not receive 12 billion dollars.Why will no one say what those were?
>>535022105He did it by getting the governor to hand him nearly the entire budget. Meaning democrats are now taxing republican areas of the state to subsidize the democrat areas.
>>535022105communism is easy when you have other people's money to use
>>535022105What? Draw up a plan that technically works on paper and then announce it a success before the teachers and police unions agree to allow you to delay pension contributions for two years?
>>535022105This foreign fag retard is a complete clown, just lime you op.
>>535022576Why do they stay in that shithole?
>>535022576Lying migger. And most red states are completely dependent on donations from superior blue states>>535024656He was never going to go through with the property taxes you stupid migger, he just threatened them to strong arm Albany into allowing him to tax the rich and guess what, it workedMiggers are cattle
>>535022105the right man at the right time can make all the difference in the world
>>535022576It’s all federal funding at the end of the day. Incredibly misleading headline, though. But what else do we expect from a literal communist?
>>535022105>8 of the 12 billion is a grant from New York State meaning the rest of the state gets to subsidize NYC>The remaining 4 billion is based on projected tax revenue that will never materializeSee you in a few years when NYC is shit and everyone wonders why.
>>535022496>gibsThat's just NYC's money coming back. Do you really think yonkers is the place creating tax revenue for Albany?
>>535022496>ACKSHUALLY HE ONLY SOLVED $4 BILLION IN DEBT
>>535025373Getting the state to bail him out is not what the headline in OP is trying to portray.
>>535025226>>535025232The city contributes more to the treasury than the rest of the state combined you stupid miggers
>>535022105He did it by begging the state to give him more money lol
>>535022105This is going to go well. Nothing but promising that he might get money from the governor and potential tax revenue. I bet they forecast the tax revenue at the most optimistic way ever since they don't think people will just move.
>>535025133>>535025568Based and correct
>hypothetical future taxation revenue
>>535025568It also takes more from the treasury than the rest of the state.
>>535022105Jews
>>535025568Oh so if you contribute more taxes you should get some back? Does this apply to millionaires as well?
>>535022105>what stopping leaders from working like mamdaminigga he got a bail out from the statefucking dumbass niggas thing this mamdami nigga did anything except beg for money
>>535025701Is this your first time hearing about budgets and how they work or are you just another desperate disingenuous migger?>>535025702>NYC contributes 55% of state taxes and only gets back 41% in spendingYou lying migger>>535026063Behold, the pinnacle of migger intelligence
>>535026246>just calls everyone migger Ok retard I’m glad you’re rediscovering capitalism because the goatfucker mayor said niggers can ride the bus for free now
>>535026246State tax paid by people living in New York City does not belong to New York City. So reality is that New York City takes more than it contributes. You’re essentially arguing for SALT taxes at the city level, which is just a subsidy for cities. If cities contributed as much as you claim, they wouldn’t need subsidies. Simple facts.
>>535022576>democrats are now taxing republican areas of the state to subsidize the democrat areas.Based lmao fuck those hillbilly republican faggots
>>535026461how about addressing their socioeconomic conditions instead of taxing them for other people?
>>535022105>goyphone poster grifting for some sandniggereverytime
>>535026638Why would they care about anyone else besides their immigrant pets?
>>535025133>dollars equal valueLooked at the cost of things recently? You rely on our fuel and food donations. Or maybe you’d rather eat your 1’s and 0’s. You can try that instead.
>>535026386>NOOOOOOOOOOOO BLACK PEOPLE GET TO RIDE THE BUSlol seethe
>>535026749Notice how this anon has to leave off the pertinent portion “for free” in his response. This is because people who support these politicians have to lie.
>>535026733Yeah and every single farmer in America would go broke if it weren't for ag subsidies, so what? It's called society, we depend on each other
>>535026843>NOOOOOOOOOOOO BLACK PEOPLE GET TO RIDE THE BUS FOR FREElol seetheBetter? Miggers are like the playground kid that would rather kick the ball into the lake than let someone he doesn't like get a turn
>>535026867WWI and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race
>>535022105My only choices are>brown faggots that hate meOr>jewish billionaires that hate meIs it so much to just want someone to be neutral towards me?
>>535026941Why shouldn’t black people have to pay for the bus like everyone else?
>>535026867>ag subsidies >literally just the bully saying he wont take your lunch money today but he might take it tomorrow if you don’t spend it how he wants You have to be 18+ to post here.
>>535026386You engaged in blatant false equivalence and expect me to treat you as anything other than a migger?And I was always against Crony Capitalism that bloodsucking elites like your king Migger engage in. This is something else>>535026389>taxes paid by people in NYC don’t belong to NYC Migga pleaseThose taxes come directly from NYC’s economy. The actual simple facts are this, NYC pays over half the state’s bills and gets back under 41%. We’re the donors, not the beggars. The subsidies are flowing out of the city. Migger.
>>535026995cuz the busses are free and everyone gets to ride them
>>535026941>economics and equity is like taking turns in sportsthis nigga stupid as fuck
>>535026867So if everyone relies on the taxes paid by billionaires, why do you types want to kill them?
>>535022105He's a subhuman shitskin commie. He broke all his promises but the leftoid goycattle fell for it again kek
Nothing, anyone can do this. It's not a matter of doing things like Mamdani, it's more a matter of, how many more things like Mamdani can people do before the economic system collapses? At the current moment, if AI doesn't start ripping like crazy, we have until 2035 until we're insolvent, if every state did what Mamdani's doing, we're looking at 2032. So it's totally possible, but completely irresponsible and you will pay for the repercussions for many years to come.
>>535027021> Those taxes come directly from NYC’s economy.Most of the jobs paying taxes in NYC can be moved to remote and be done from outside of the city. It’s ridiculous to believe those taxes are somehow intrinsic to the city. You’ll learn that the hard way. >>535027035Yes, causing a budget shortfall that requires subsidies from the state, which will likely be paid for via federal spending. Why should my tax dollars go to immigrants in NYC riding the bus for free?
>>535027010>IF I DONT GET FREE MONEY YOURE STEALING FROM ME REEEEEEEEEEEAgriculture stopped being the driver of economic growth after the invention of the steam engine. I swear farmers literally think they are God's gift to the earth. If it weren't for supply chains your fields would wither (no nutrients because no fertilizer because the soil has been depleted from overfarming) you'd have no machinery (you can't grow that on a tree) and no fuel to fill them with, no medical attention, no way to bring your produce to market, so on and so forth. I know ag subsidies insulate you from the dangers of the real world but you are not the self reliant man you think you are. The noble yeoman farmer is and always has been a toddler that the government coddles to give the illusion of a free independent man
>>535027021I for one don’t have any problem with NY taking money from the rest of the state to equalize its share. But this is a long term problem that will only be exacerbated when Miami takes over as the business and finance hub of the US, then they’ll be irreparably fucked forever. That’ll be funny.
>>535027071Because their very existence is parasitic. Get rid of them and you wouldn't need to tax them because all that value would return to where it rightfully belongs
>>535027394You’re the perfect example of why public education doesn’t lead to an educated populace. Economic theory from the 1930s in order to defend ridiculous bloated spending from American cities.
>>535027196What? Most of the big tax paying jobs aren’t exactly fully remoteable, the networking and dealmaking still happens here and is crucial. A guy like Bill Ackman wouldn't be anywhere without it all.Fact remains, NYC provides 55% of state revenue but only takes back 41%. The money is absolutely tied to the city’s economy, repeating otherwise won't make it any less true.>>535027148Foreign miggers might be even lower than local miggers.You're all ultimately the same though, trying to cope with king Migger's continuous betrayals by reverse unoing the "you fell for it" meme and failing miserablyEven projecting the goycattle thing, or are you that mindless and unself aware?
>>535027468>value would return back to where it belongs And where is that, exactly?Very interesting how to twisted away from >we are a society we depend on each other to >the prime tax payers in society are parasites Just another example of how you people aren’t capable of understanding reality.
>>535027196>Yes, causing a budget shortfall that requires subsidies from the state, which will likely be paid for via federal spending.That's money that comes from NYC. You're imagining a scenario in your head and then getting mad at it>Why should my tax dollars go to immigrants in NYC riding the bus for free?Same reason why we shouldn't just cut all ag subsidies and nationalize every farm that fails against the actual free market: it would cause an internal civil conflict and that would be bad
>>535027394>line go up good! You have a child’s understanding of the world, up to and including that all the major supply chain/logistics operations you tout are in those flyover states you’d prefer to wean. You, on the other hand, change money. Thats all you do. And if you haven’t noticed, your money isn’t working so well these days. So good luck filling your tank with those 1’s and 0’s.
>>535027571> Most of the big tax paying jobs aren’t exactly fully remoteableWrong. I know several people who live in NYC but work remotely for corps based in Georgia and Texas. You can’t claim their income tax is at all connected to the city. The only taxes that are rightfully “caused” by the city are from business and sale taxes paid for by places operating in NYC. Rationale being that their operation is intrinsic to the city. The income of a remote worker is not intrinsically tied to the city. It’s little things like this that prove NYC is in for another downturn like they experienced in the 70s/80s.
>>535027507Can you elaborate on what the fuck you mean to say here? Something about my "economic theory" being wrong because the heckin science is settled but it changed again?What are you gonna teach me, some dipshit free market economics? You do realize those guys literally ignore reality and freely admit it, right? "Praxeology" is the means by which austrian economists conclude that if reality doesn't match up with theory, the reality is wrong. Their words not mine
>>535027608> That's money that comes from NYCWrong. The people living in NYC are not owned by NYC, and neither is their income tax. I know several people who live in NYC but work remotely for companies not in NYC. Their income tax has ZERO connection to NYC. You people are so uneducated. It’s actually amazing.
>>535027608Nope immigrants can simply be removed. You can't compare that to citizens having actual issues with a decision from.their government
>>535027608>it would cause an internal civil conflict and that would be badAs would killing the top 1%
>>535027795You’re talking about ag subsidies as if they matter, presumably because it’s still taught as a part of the public curriculum. If you knew anything about ag subsidies, you’d realize they mostly go to onions bean production that is sold to China. So the subsidies are returned via the trade with China. These subsidies don’t go to feed the nation.
>>535025133>miggerTroon speak, you lost again nafo troon with a memefag.
>>535022105JUST SHUT UP GOYIM THE JEWS NEED THAT MONEY! YOU'RE TAKING FORESKINS OUT OF THEIR CHILDRENS' MOUTHS BY TAKING AWAY ALL THOSE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS!
>>535027716I like how you completely ignored everything I said and just zeroed in on the phrase "economic growth". Everything beyond that is just a bunch of conjecture around what I do for a living - can you respond to my arguments or am I arguing with a retard?
>>535027608>Same reason why we shouldn't just cut all ag subsidies and nationalize every farm that fails against the actual free marketjesus christ you are stupidTHE SUBSIDIES ARE ALREADY THE NATIONALIZATION OF A FARMIF THE FARM CANT FUNCTION WITHOUT A SUBSIDYTHEN ITS OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENTDO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND WHERE AG SUBSIDIES CAME FROM RETARD?
>>535027870Wouldn't that end it
>>535027976He likely ignored everything you said because you’re ignorant, and what you said is hardly relevant. Truly a child’s understanding of taxes and national subsidies, used to justify blue cities being money pits for the nation.
>>535022105>Believing what a Democrats says about themselves
>>535027571I don't even like Trump that much you retarded nigger>Even projecting the goycattle thingGoycattle literally comes from /pol/ years ago you NPC leftoid sheep. Leftoids are goycattle because they get all their beliefs from jewish propaganda.
>>535028026Not a single time in history has such an event led to a decrease in civil disorder and unrest.
>>535022496So they just shuffled the deck chairs from city to state debt. No one can seem to answer why the NYC budget has doubled in just the last 15 years.
>>535027981>IF THE FARM CANT FUNCTION WITHOUT A SUBSIDY>THEN ITS OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENTI wish this were true but farms are essentially a bought off walled garden of smallholders to produce votes. If the US government were even approaching rational they would just get rid of the middleman. But that's not gonna happen. Ever since they were called "yeoman farmers" (ie the revolutionary era) the feds have been going out of their way to kiss farmer ass.
>>535028106Fraud to allow the immigrants in NYC to afford living in America. They’d all have to return home if their lives in America weren’t subsidized.
>>535028136> bought off walled garden of smallholders to produce votesLike I said, a child’s understanding of a complex topic that reduces it down to good guys and bad guys. AG subsidies in the modern day are paid back via the trade they facilitate with China.
>>535028098killing of the romanovs. By that point the ball was already rolling on the civil war but it 100% ended a Bourbon Restoration type royalist attempt. To this day there are people claiming to be descendants of Anastasia
>>535022105The thing about republicans is that by definition they dont believe in the government being productive/working so they go out of their way to make it worse.
>>535028234>>535027958This is like saying gibs to Israel is just a subsidy to the MIC because that money comes back to us via weapons. Why the fuck wouldn't we just cut out the middleman then? that doesn't make it not graft
>>535028296anon, millions of Russians died because of that. Killing the romanovs destabilized the entire empire, leading to food shortages and starvation. You’re a literal child lmao.
>>535027590>believing in society is the exact same thing as being a corporatist The upper echelons of society are objectively parasitic
>>535022105Mommy Danny is being given money to make headlines and demoralize the working class by improving a city they’re not allowed to live in.
>>535028304>taking money from the state is productive working governmentso a working government is in principle taking money from other people ?
>>535028361Not comparable. I’m saying the revenue from the trade with China offsets the ag subsidies. This isn’t the case with weapons to Israel.
>>535028450See what i mean.
>>535028387Except the civil war was already underway by that point you illiterate retard. You'd know that if you weren't pretending to know what the fuck you were talking about, or even bothered to read my post lmao
>>535028436you’re strawmanning with this post. You’re simply contradicting yourself as you desperately try to explain how the people who pay the majority of taxes are parasites, but the immigrants getting free bus rides at the expense of the tax payer are not.
>>535028461but the principle is exactly the same - why not cut off the middleman? Why pay some fat boomer to do something just so we can say we're not evil communists for doing it ourselves
>>535028512America experienced a civil war. It didn’t lead to the mass starvation of a large portion of our population. You’re just demonstrating how the killing of the romanovs actually made a situation much, much worse. >>535028573Ag subsidies leads to increased tax revenue that completely offsets the expense. Israel subsidies do not. What do you not understand about this? It’s not an apples to apples comparison.
>>535028526fallacy fallacy
>>535028490answer the questionbecause all mamdami did here was get money from a different jurisdiction of governanceif he formed a working/productive governmentit wouldnt have a deficit that needed covering nor supplementation
>>535022105hey remember when you guys offed charlieits going to be exposed on live tv
>>535022105>Rightoids kept telling me that leftists are only capable of endless spending and budget deficits.It all starts to click when you learn that the right projects their insecurities onto everyone around them, instead of ever self-reflecting.
>>535022105>What's stopping other leaders from working like Mamdani?that whole matter of running out of other people's money
>>535028639>noooo I didn’t do a strawman Incorrect.
>>535025373its almost like you forget that he's relying on money from things that wont happen
>>535027976I like how you completely ignored that your entire original argument rested on logistics and market strategies being important, while the vast majority of that is handled in the states you disavow. New York changes money. SF changes money for the latest dating app or other b2c slop app. LA pumps out insolvent movies for tax write downs and grandpas favorite entertainment slop. Yawn. We will survive without that. On the other hand, we handle getting the oil from the ground, to a refinery, off a ship, on a train, on a truck, and into your late model sports car. Or free homeless bus for that matter. All the business intelligence, expertise, and infrastructure for that is here, the place you disavow.. so you can keep your finance and insurance rackets, we can replace those easier than you can replace us. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
>>535028706>deficits dont exist when you can spend other peoples moneyguess trump is doing it right then by increasing US gov debt unceasingly
>>535028706>t.
>>535022105>What's stopping other leaders from lying like Mamdami? A moral compass on account of not being a pedofile worshipper.
>>535022105I literally can’t empathize with a person who would believe this
>>535027394>Almost all of human innovation is devoted to making it easier for farmers to grow and transport food>B-but farmers aren't that important don't think we need you
>>535022105>deficit spendingKill yourself jew.
>>535028797Yeah, that's kind of the point. Republicans spend like retards and obliterate the economy every time, and then they attack the left for doing that lol.
>>535025133can you say nigger at least once, It would make me feel better.
>>535028909>republicans spend lmao sure
>>535028807Those are some old old images. It is 2026, and Trump has surpassed everyone in jew cock sucking
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>>535022105rightoids love orange pedo cock
>>535028909implying globohomo doesnt want everyone spending like retardsthe uniparty spends like retardsthe central banks counterfeit the money for those retards to spendthen charge interest on the counterfeit moneythen use more counterfeit money to buy off unipary members to make more of a mess of everythingone might be able to see a pattern here
>>535028909so how is mamdami getting a state bailout different?your acting like this is a 'republican' only thing and not an american politician thing
>>535028963Not old, and nope, nobody sucks more jew cock than leftoids. They literally worship jewish causes like mass immigration, multiculturalism, transgenderism etc.
>>535028971>>535029009Biden's economy was in an upswing and then you elected the guy that ruined it lmao
>>535028971It’s crazy how you people always respond with a non sequitor, while trying to run cover for the people giving gibs to immigrants.
>>535029101> Biden's economy was in an upswinglmao the lies you people have to peddle is amazing.
>>535029121>>535029166Your levels of cope are in the stratosphere.
>>535029204If Biden’s economy wasn’t in the dumpster Trump wouldn’t have won. The massive market rally when Trump won demonstrates this.
>>535029101>Biden's economy was in an upswingyeah, you're fuckin retarded
>>535028161>NYC having a large population of immigrants is a recent development caused by the current thing topic I've been told to kvetch about for this news cycleI hope this is a bot
>>535029274White immigrants of the past didn’t need to be on Medicaid and food stamps like this recent batch of browns. Cry all you want but facts are facts.
>i gotg a loan from mom and refuse to pay my other outstanding bills>look guys i balanced da budget!
>>535028706>"no, you"See how much of a faggot you are.
>>535029237>If Biden’s economy wasn’t in the dumpster Trump wouldn’t have won.No, people just had to believe Biden's economy was in the dumpster, it didn't actually have to be there. There were also the dozens other imaginary problems conservative media told them to care about daily.
>>535029390>American reading comprehension
>>535029420>no actually everyone was just fooled by trump! Now this is some peak cope.
>>535029359>Sorry jews, i have declared a debt jubilee and you can get bent and go back to your holes and sulk.>t. MamdaniI see no crime here.
>>535022105I mean, New York is a somewhat special situation.Despite all the whining and threats about rich people leaving if their taxes are raised or if he goes after slumlords or whatever it's not like new york was the cheapest in taxes or anything before. Yet, many rich people found value enough in living and doing business there from other factors.Of course things like taxes and regulations matter in financial considerations of where to live, have assets, do business but there's all sorts of considerations.Very noticably all the rich people don't just pick up all their toys and move to the places with the lowest taxes and least regulations.
>>535029462Correct, he tells easily disprovable lies nonstop about everything, and you're stupid enough to believe them lmao.
>>535022496>actually its socialism when you use your own moneyhonestly not even surprised by this zogged board at this point
>>535029420Another Canadian watching America news outlets while he blatantly ignores the jeetification of his country.
>We fixed the budgetHow?>We took hypothetical money from elsewhere in the stateCool, no increased production to support new spending, can successfully kicked.
>>535029508>if you aren't talking about Canada's problems in this thread about America, it means you're ignoring themThis is how stupid Trumples are.
>>535029465Ah yes, funneling tax dollars to immigrants is based and shit because jews. >>535029498Keep up the cope, retard. Biden’s economy was so shit that simply seeing that his tenure was over led to the biggest market rally I have ever seen in my life.
>>535029274how much money is needed for socialism to workis it a flat amount? a percentage of city/state gdp?why isnt 124.7 billion dollars enough? thats about 15k per person given to the city and its a still a shitholei mean free busses lmaowhy not build more infrastructure to reduce costs instead and creating more convenience?
>>535029443"no, you." sums up everyone of your spastic posts. You seem lost I recommend going back the way you came.
>>535022105even the predditors are saying this isn't real gains and that he's just kicking the can down the roadand their hivemind dictates that they love that guy
>>535029345>Government assistance for immigrants is a recent development>White immigrants didn't take government assistanceOh, you're one of those "I go by vibes" type of political shitposters.Got it
>>535029613my vibe is you are faggot nigger
>>535029573>Biden's economy was bad!!!!>it doesn't matter that Trump boot licks cost $12 instead of $5 now!!!
>>535029613Government assistance for immigrants is a recent development, yes. Are you an immigrant or something?Prior to 2000, it was expected that immigrants be financially solvent in order for them to come to America.
>>535027468No lmfao you kill them then who runs the factories to create the value faggot? And if replaced how does that person not just become the next rich guy. You cant fight hierarchy humans are inherently monkeys you retarded cattle, some people are just superiour to you its not that hard to accept really
>>535022414stop calling them "billionaires." That glorifies them. Call them what they are. Robber Barons.
>>535029573>Ah yes, funneling tax dollars to immigrants is based and shit because jews.that is clearly not based. If that's what he did, then that's bad. I was making a joke about ignoring debts owed to jews is fine, because fuck them.
>>535029563This is your average Canadian ladies and gentlemen. If not on reddit grooming children, he's inviting in more brown people to finally destroy the housing market and shit up every waterway in the country. You're a disgrace.
>>535029715how about you start with distribution of money creation first instead of retarded ass backwards taxation processes
>>535029755That’s quite literally what he’s doing. He’s protecting immigrants being on welfare services in NYC while requiring subsidies from the state to balance the city budget. Services that the city can’t pay for are going to immigrants, which is HALF of the city.
>>535027468This is probably the dumbest post imaginable.
>>535029793You literally think I disappear when I'm not typing in this thread lmao. You probably think mommy disappears when she covers your eyes and says peekaboo.
>>535029903you promote the epstein class by being pro trans and bidenremember ghislaine maxwell was a mod on reddit and promoted trans agenda
>>535022576i don't see how that's true, but if it is, it's funny it bothers you.just about every red state is a welfare state, relying on federal tax $$$ paid by blue states to stay afloat.
>>535029474Agree that NY is a somewhat special case, but it’s been coasting on previous wins for a long time. And no they haven’t gotten up and moved (man tolerates injustice for as long as possible), it happens slowly. But the dam is breaking with the massive discrepancy in business attitude and environment between NY and FL, coupled with the fact that a lot of places are already setting up shop there, it’s a tide that’s only going one way. Unless something changes, in 50 years NY’s comparative relevance will be closer to Detroit today; Miami’s will be closer to NY today.
>>535030065That was never true, anon.
>>535029692Here's Mitt Romney's mother discussing Mitt Romney's father, George Romney, relying on government assistance to survive as a white immigrant from Mexico as a young child, which would have been in the early 1900s. You can do more research into the various government assistance programs for immigrants stretching back over a centuryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DgB3WASwXAThat's the problem with politicking based on vibes. It only takes a few seconds for someone to show you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>535022105Listen, either you can have good things, or Israel can have good things. Politicians know that Israel deserves it more.
>>535030179Mitt Romney eventually got a job...
>>535030038>you promote the epstein class by being pro trans and bidenYou promote the Epstein class by electing Epstein's best pal Trump.I was on board with deposing the Clintons over the Epstein files. They both did 6 hour public depositions. When is Trump doing his Epstein deposition? lmao
>>535030179Why are you linking a politician spitting a campaign talking point as if it’s real? Surely you can find some actual facts to support your claim?
>>535030250>depositionsWhy didnt obummer go after epsteinwhy didnt bidenbeside i didnt vote
>>535030179Yeah, sure glad we subsidized the Romney family into prominence. Great argument.
>>535030239Most people on assistance programs eventually get jobs. That's the point, retard.
>>535030357not if they are brown and in nyc
>>535030357Not in NYC.
>>535022105>reddit postingConsider suicide
>>535030339Yeah, Trump seems to be too afraid, or ashamed, to be deposed over Epstein. Are you suggesting the Clintons were braver than Trump?
>>535030397>>535030406Are you just saying words, or can you support this with data? You guys never post anything interesting lol
This is what's possible when you stop sending all your money to Israel
>>535030415a lot of talking that lead to nothing
>>53503045260% of immigrants in NYC are employed. Why should 40% of immigrants in NYC be pulling from federal welfare?
>>535022105Didn't he cut the police budget?
>>535030258So now you're claiming that Mitt Romney's mother just publicly made up a non-existent government program? Seems like someone would have said "Hey, that doesn't exist" if that was the caseBut that didn't happen, because those programs existed. The fact that it hurts your vibe based worldview doesn't change that.
>>535030470The point of a deposition is to forensically pin them on conflicting claims or admitting to illegal actions. You're correct, they found nothing, on either Bill or Hilary.So, again, when is Trump doing his deposition?
>>535030512>>535030452This 60% stat also covers fake jobs like street vendors. So a large portion of this 60% is still pulling from federal welfare programs.
>>535030566Those programs didn’t exist. This is why you can’t find one to link to me to prove me wrong.
>>535030602>selling products and services is fake workOh man you people really do live in totally fluid realities.
>>535030652Selling cheap or stolen shit on the street is not a productive job. They also don’t report their income properly and as such are still on welfare. Immigrants enriching themselves while their families pull welfare is not beneficial to America.
>>535030652They believe whatever supports their worldview instead of basing their worldview on what’s observable and real.
>>535030592dunno go ask himtrump bad or whatever you want to saystill dont care for democrats and their tranny nigger communist pandering
>>535030750Most of the American economy is based around selling useless shit to consumers. Is it only valid if it’s done out of a building? That’s retarded.
>>535030767Do immigrants receive welfare?
>>535030802How exactly does an immigrant selling something stolen from an American business to another immigrant help America? Be specific.
>>535030750>Selling cheap or stolen shit on the street is not a productive job.You keep making these really entitled loaded statements, it's a slimy and manipulative way to communicate. You're too stupid to engage on substance, I guess. No worries.
>>535030805I’m sure they do. So do a lot of worthless rednecks. I don’t respect either group because I’m consistent in my worldview.
>>535030843Drug companies sell you overpriced medicine developed from research funded by your stolen tax dollars. Seems equivalent.
>>535030652Immigrants constitute 37.2% of NYC's population but 44.2% of the labor force, highlighting a higher labor force participation rate compared to U.S.-born residents. Key industries include transportation, utilities, and servicesthey are under the table workersfundamentally scabs for low wage work
>>535030852Notice how this anon can’t actually refute my argument so he chooses this response instead. He’s probably an immigrant. >>535030859Americans have a right to American welfare. Immigrants do not. You’re just demonstrating why when Trump says America is being invaded he is telling the truth. Immigrants come here to exploit the generosity of American welfare programs, while not contributing anything. >>535030920Drug companies also produce valuable products, unlike immigrants. Not comparable.
>>535030946And under the table work does not report income, meaning they don’t pay taxes.
>>535030805Red states leech off of blue state economies like parasitic insects, btw. Republicans are like AIDS for productivity.
>>535031023Nice nigger and injun map, anon.
>>535031023reds dont wnat to live with blues and you can cut them off anytimeAll i want is my autonomy to be a fascist racist in my own country
>>535030971>Notice how this anon can’t actually refute my argumentYeah, because you made a loaded presupposition, which is literally impossible to refute, because it relies on tangential claims that you never established were merited. That's the point of manipulative language, it shields cowards from critical discourse.
>>535031176You presupposed nigger tongued my anus
>>535031071Those states are run by republican white people, and most of the voters and workforce are also white people.
>>535031176How is it impossible to refute? You simple need to show me evidence that immigrants are net tax contributors in NYC.
>>535031215You know you can just admit you're too stupid to talk about politics, instead of larping as someone who has anything interesting to say.
>>535031225and the large nonwhite not working people are below the povery linewhats your point
>>535022105American rightoids are projecting with deficits. They have zero self control on this.
>>535030065Zohran threatened to increase property taxes but the Governor was heavily against it so she gave him billions to not increase property taxes for a couple years as a compromise. It's a short-term solution so I don't expect the budget to be $0 for very long.
>>535031225>white people existing means poor niggers are their fault lmao you’re actually a cuck. Check your infographic anon. The top 5 poverty states are >spic>nigger>nigger>spic>white
>>535031244>How is it impossible to refute?I explained why in my post. Why do none of you retards do reading comprehension
>>535031270what is your point at all in thiswhat even is your side of the debateimmigrants and socialism good?foreigners who cant speak your language and hate your culture are great to be around?
>>535031317lol she gave him billions because Zohran was about to create the biggest lawsuit against NYC ever for racially targeted taxes.
>>535031320Who are you quoting?
>>535031360>identify your team RIGHT NOW so i know which preprogrammed emotion to feel about you!!!
>>535031345What is the tangential claim, anon? You’re just trying to dissemble away from the reality that immigrants in NYC are net tax TAKERS. They don’t benefit the nation at all. You’re likely an immigrant which is why this truth upsets you.
>>535031375Oh no he has reading difficulties as well.
>>535031423>i have no actual stance and just am being an assokso you believe in nothing and have no vision in how the world should bethen why do you care if we make stuff up and lie?
>>535031429I love how you expect me to walk you through your manipulative bullshit as if you're not just looking for another slimy way to worm out of it. You people are all the same.
>>535022105Other states do not have the singular large city running the entire state like New York. It's not rocket science. The governor in NY is essentially enslaved to NYC. This has always been the case. Everyone knows who pic related is, but nobody could tell you who the governor was without looking it up.
>>535031519Notice how this anon just projects what he is doing onto me. Confronted with the fact that immigrants in NYC are net takers, he has to dissemble, deflect, and project.
>>535031494Why do you guys always imagine things people say, and then respond to the thing you imagined, that no one said?
>>535031519do you have point at all in this?the thread is posited in a way that mamdami accomplished something amazing and only peope of his politics could do itbut what he accomplished was just taking money from another govermental entitywhy is this unique or something that we need to applaud
>>535031581says the guy posting trumptard photosa very serious person you are
>>535031570>act manipulative>get called out on it>"n-no, it's YOU that's being manipulattive"But yes, you're definitely not the one projecting. lol
>>535031581When you start playing stupid you just expose yourself to being used as a prop to drive the point home.Immigrants are net takers in America. They don’t contribute more than they take.
>>535031663Notice this anon continues to deflect and avoid the point, which is that immigrants TAKE more tax revenue than they generate.
>>535031365Based. I wish the right had a politician as ruthless as this and not just for themselves but their constituents.
>>535031023Fascinating
>>535025373>debt>deficitNo wonder you're all poor
>>535031664>if you don't play along with the version of you that i imagined inside my head, it means you're "playing stupid"
>>535031716>I wish the right had politicians that helped push the state into insolvency to meet campaign promises lul
>>535028706>It all starts to click when you learn that the right projects their insecurities onto everyone around them, instead of ever self-reflecting.Hilarious this is coming from a Canadian leftist after ten years of Trudeau lmao. Self-awareness goes both ways you tool lmao
>>535031769More projection from the retard. I didn’t realize it was this hard to acknowledge that immigrants take more than they contribute.
>>535031802lmao i love insecure it makes you that I'm Canadian. i can hear the seething from all the way up here.
>>535031886what made you get stuck here like us chuds?
>>535031886I'm not insecure at all, I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. Trudeau did more damage to Canada than any right-wing politician ever did, but you refuse to acknowledge it- hence the lack of self awareness
>>535022496>more gibsThey're asking to subsidize the upstate counties less. The five NYC counties send $68.8 billion in tax revenue to the state every year. Those counties get back $47.6 billion in state spending in NYC. That's a 0.69 return ratio, which is massively lower than other big cities. Chicago, for example, has a 0.90 ratio. The city re-balancing it's lopsided tax to spending ratio to 0.72 is hardly a charitable handout, especially when that money is what enables NYC to send so much tax money to the capitol in the first place. The metropole subsidizing it's hinterland happens everywhere, but NYC's is particularly unbalanced.
>>535031999>I'm not insecure at all
>>535032083Disingenuous excuse. I’ve explained in this thread why income taxes paid by residence of NYC does not belong to NYC.
>>535022105>What's stopping other leaders from working like Mamdani?OP is a lying faggot.Mamdani got a huge bailout from the New York state budget. He didn't balance the budget, he stole other people's taxes from the state budget. New York City is now a parasite feeding off the rest of the state.Its literally just shuffling cards. The cities deficit is now the state's deficit and retards like OP think that means the deficit is gone.
>>535025568So it gets back its share and some more. Why others don't get the same treatment? Just lower tax for everyone
>>535032095You being a shitlib on /pol/ is pretty solid evidence I'm not the one who is insecure dude lmao
>>535032218If you say so, little dude.
>>535032171Makes me wonder whether they are setting up Mamdani for a presidential run in 2028 by cooking the books for him.
>>535032267bruh you spent like half an hour posting in this thread with 32 replies and countingwe are all dumb dumb incels but what the fuck are you doing nigga
>>535032307> but what the fuck are you doing niggaTalking about politics on the internet while I play old school runescape.
>>535032275lol not going to happen. They are covering for Mamdani so he doesn’t go through with his dumb ass tax hikes that will expose the city to a ton of lawsuits accusing racial bias in tax policy. The dumbass has people in his admin that have tweets explicitly stating such intent.He’s destroying the party from the inside. Pretty hilarious really.
>>5350221051 post reddit faggot
>>535032166>muh immigrantsEven with all the immigrants as "net-takers," the city still sends far more money upstate than it gets back. The rambling anecdotes about remote workers is also irrelevant.Trying to say "nuh-uh" in the face of reality is just retarded. People create wealth, not land. That's why rural areas have their existence subsidized by the cities where all the people live. This has been a phenomena that holds true across the planet, anon.
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>>535032588> Even with all the immigrants as "net-takers," the city still sends far more money upstate than it gets backSolely because of billionaires. Hardly an excuse to look the other way when the city is purposely keeping immigrants on welfare programs that are rightfully meant for ONLY Americans. America doesn’t need any more leeches. Such immigrants need to be deported.
>>535022105I can lie bigger tha muslami. vote me.
>>535032627Personally I think we should just sidestep the whole insolvency issue by deporting immigrants.
>>535032678>Solely because of billionaires.isn't it interesting how people who create jobs and economic value all want to live in blue states and cities lol
>>535032769You need a big budget to deport immigrants
>>535032794They can simply afford to live under blue policies that make life more expensive. Unfortunately that’s also why wealth disparity is so disgustingly bad in these cities. Nice self own, though. Keep them coming.
>>535032846No you don’t. Cut their gibs and make severe penalties for hiring them. They’ll leave.
>>535032882>They can simply afford to live under blue policies that make life more expensive.People with money move to blue states because blue states have stronger economies. It's demand that makes cost of living go up. Even with the recent migration of people from blue states to neighboring red states, there's still much more net demand to live in blue states.
>>535033123Incorrect. People have been net migrating to red states since Covid. >there’s still much more net demand to live in blue states Incredible how you have to believe in fantasies to argue your politics.
>>535022105>What's stopping other leaders from working like Mamdani?
>>535033315>People have been net migrating to red states since Covid.There has been an uptick in migrations, but no, net demand to live in blue states remains much higher than it is to live in red states.
>>535033407> , net demand to live in blue states remains much higher than it is to live in red states.If that were true, migration would reflect such opinions. The fact that migration reflects the opposite demonstrates that you’re peddling a lie.
>>535033481Ah, you're just saying words that feel like they make sense to you. You haven't read anything about any of this.
>>535033561meanwhile, I’m the one with support from the facts. Surely you can prove your claim?
>>535025568Then whey were they in debt?Businesses are leaving every month. The finacial center is moving to Texas. Slowly but surely.https://thebeltwayreport.com/2026/03/wall-street-firms-flee-new-york-for-texas-reject-left-wing-policies/
>>535033639>im saying facts>p-please believe me
>>535027021Once again, if they are so fucking rich and have so much money, then why were they broke and in debt?
>>535033719So are you denying that net migration is pointing towards red states and away from blue states?
>>535022105Hombre you're in fucking Argentina. I live in NYC and let me tell you, there's more mentally ill people walking around, more people getting pushed onto train tracks, more traffic, less cops, everything is more expensive before the Iran shit, and everywhere you go everyone is overcharging, even adding required gratuity.By the way, $9 billion of that $12 billion budget gap is due to housing migrants during the Biden years. Look it up. It's entirely Democrats' fault.
>>535033821But anon if they don’t pay for the housing for these migrants how will democrats continue to control the city?
>>535033407You are way off leaf, the only way dimocrats have any votes in the cities is they bring in the 3rd world shitskins to replace their population leaving.
>>535033821Are you planning your escape from NY? Is it as bad as it seems? You couldn't pay me to visit that place.
>>535022105>leftoids lying again
>>535022414I hate goyim so much it's unreal. Every single page of the Talmud is true from cover to cover.1) You do not ask where did the money come from. 2) You did not ask if he'll be able to repeat this stunt every single year.3) You don't even ask what are the ramifications of repeating this stunt. Socialism is always about short term solutions. Usually the result is debt (as it had 12B) or inflationary solutions to pay for the excess. NY is going to get more expensive.
>>535033821>But anon if they don’t pay for the housing for these migrants how will democrats continue to control the city?Please check what I said online and notice how many MSM articles say Fact Check: federal funds not used for housing migrants. Which is true - they used LOCAL funds and then the Biden Administration finds a way to reimburse through NGOs or other dirty money. I personally visited one of the biggest migrant shelters and I saw everything. We even had military personnel as security guards because all the Venezuelans were gang members bringing weapons into the hotel.>>535033974>Are you planning your escape from NY?Of all my friends I grew up with, I am the last still living inside city limits. Most moved to other states or to counties just outside the city. None of them have any regrets whatsoever and most of them ask me why the fuck I am still here.>Is it as bad as it seems?Yes and no. Felony crime overall is nowhere near as bad as the 1980s and early 1990s, but it's random now. Instead of 1000 murders and 1000 rapes in the ghetto, it's 500 murders and 500 rapes everywhere including safe neighborhoods. What's really bad is non-felony or petty crime like theft, assault, menacing, quality of life things. It's just so dystopian but these liberal transplants keep coming here voting for it then hide in their ivory towers in Williamsburg that their daddies pay for. And when they get tired of it, they move to Colorado and make room for Gen Z kids to do the same thing.But where it gets really bad is cost of living, which exploded since 2021 and has no signs of slowing down.
Delayed pensions for years, and needed a bailout from the state of newyork. But niggers, and braindead leftists will say this is a success, all he did was ensure that the problems New York faces in the future will be worse.The typical braindead communist tactic.
>most of the problems Mamdani is cause its long term projects and having to wait for things to move along.>the only real failures he has had so far was the first snowstorm which he fixed the next time around and the raising of min wage which really isnt gonna make anything better and has shown to backfire >the biggest controversy so far was his wife was an edgy teen at one pointIts "THE WAIT tm" but he aint doin too bad honestly.
