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I was arguing with a socialist who said Scandinavia is the best place to live. He just cited the HDI index, I told him the HDI index is bullshit because it just lists a bunch of arbitrary metrics and ranks countries accordingly, even though in many cases countries are elevated in ways that should demote them.

The socialist said "what's your source?"

I told him I read through the HDI index and realized it was subjective, arbitrary, and biased

He said "source?"

I said my own reading comprehension ability and means for extrapolating information.

He just said "not a source".

Later I pointed out that Scandinavia has gun laws, seatbelt laws, anti-smoking laws, hate speech laws, mandatory feminist DEI laws, and a bunch of other stuff that restricts freedom, the leftist just said

>They're higher on the freedom index so they're more free

I told him the freedom index was horseshit, he just said:

>"Source?"
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Well do you have any sources on that?
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>>535022686
test
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>>535022686
This is why the internet was a mistake. In the real world, the appropriate response would be to curbstomp that little faggot. Otherwise, just mock him. Retards are very susceptible to social pressure, because they aren't intelligent enough to form their own opinions.
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>>535024347
>isn't intelligent enough to express his point without violence
You’re literally a nigger
>>535022686
KYS nigger
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>>535022686
>seatbelt laws
>stuff that restricts freedom
Are you be any chance a libertarian?
>>535024347
>Someone doesn’t agree with me, I must inflect violence upon them
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>>535022686
Source or none of this happened.
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>>535024428
>>535024538
sometimes you cant fix stupid, you're doing the world a favor by taking the retards out of the gene pool.
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>>535024538
>Are you by any chance a Libertarian
Yes

>>535024428
>racial slurs

Literal subhumanity
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>>535022686
despite you being a memenigger, i'll respond. the reason they do that is because they liken science to God and subsequently, they are not confident in their own experiences or opinions so they always defer to authority. this also happens with people who are just seeking to hear themselves talk and have people agree with them. if you said "gays are happier on average than straight people", i'm sure this person MIGHT let it slide and not say anything.
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>>535024738
There is an argument to be made that the same applies for people who are out of control with violence.
>>535024781
Figured
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>>535024977
i agree 100% but out of control violence and violence for the sake of the advancement of the human species are not the same.
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>>535024538
>Someone doesn’t agree with me, I must inflect violence upon them
Yeah. And? The time for argument is over.
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>>535022686
OP you are a pedo. Do I need proof or a source? No, according to your logic I don't I can just call you a pedo and it's true. This is how retarded you sound
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>>535025079
Inflicting violence just because they don't agree with you shows that you are out of control
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>>535024841
I think you might be correct.

>>535025162
Why is being a pedo bad??? You didn't provide a source on why being a pedo is bad, so I take it you must think being a pedo is ok or morally neutral.

This is how stupid you sound.
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>>535022686
>can't attack the logic?
>ask for source
>attack the source!
i just don't like the site you got your information from. that means i win!
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>>535025452
aka the /pol/ way of arguing
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>>535022686
Why do you think it's worth it to engage in debates with people who aren't debating in good faith
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>>535025511
pffft. that shit predates the internet by a long time.
and 1% of your information came from bad criminal people. that also means i win!
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>>535025364
>>535024781
>>535022686
Hi sukhdeep. Keep pwning liberals
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>>535025163
No, it shows that we're tired of hitting our heads against the wall.
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>>535022686
Leftist pretending to be retarded exhibit number 473929194
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>>535025755
The solution is not to destroy the wall
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>>535025364
i've had a lot of arguments with such people and i wouldn't classify myself as conservative. it gets worse when you try to lead them along a path of reasoning until their brains break and then they just screech at you. mind you, even with a source, the same retard will tell you it's flawed, it's not peer-reviewed, it's DEBOOONKED. such people you cannot win with, they are seeking only to have their beliefs affirmed, not to genuinely enrich their understanding of the world.
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>>535022686
I don’t understand
You’re mad that you have to back up your claims and can’t?
I think you’re the retard here. Surprisingly. Usually the libshit is the tard
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>>535022686
Maybe stop participating in dishonest arguments.

The entire framework of leftism is moral elitism. It only applies to people who either benefit government support or have deep seeded self image issues. If they're a leftist arguing with you on the internet, they 100% are further left than the average Democrat and they have self image issues.

They need to be morally superior to you because it helps them build enough self image to love themselves. They will absolutely not argue in good faith. You should be belittling and dismissing them while challenging their narrative.
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>>535022686
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>>535022686
why the fuck would you willingly talk to those fucking niggers? they are the most malleable and programmed people in the fucking world
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>>535027084
>indian
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>>535022686
>Scandinavia is the best place to live
No one could possibly know that. You took the bait of a sophist. It's a problem of discipline. You're not stupid, but you lack discipline, so you take the bait. What you should do is think before responding to some faggot that spends time winning debates on the internet. That guy is a loser no matter how the debate goes.
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>>535022686
Tell them they're retarded. Leftoids really expect "muh heckin peer-reviewd source!" for every fucking statement which doesn't need one.
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>>535024538
>Someone doesn’t agree with me, I must inflect violence upon them

Correct. Do something about it.
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>>535027689
>wahhhhh everyone i don't like is a jeet!!!
nigger, you sound just like those annoying sjws from yesteryear that call everyone they hate, hitler.
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America isn’t free, you’re not free to criticize your jewish overlords
America is a ZOG goycattle cattle ranch
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>>535022686
It’s hard to say simply because it’s very easy to get them to admit to massive corruption in governments and institutions but it’s hard to get them to apply that to institutions they like and trust. It’s a quagmire for certain
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>>535022686
In ten years you went from "Facts don't care about your feelings" to "Feelings matter more than fact" lol
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>>535028025
authorities don't determine facts
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>>535027190
If you aren't being unironic you're dumber than rocks.

>Uusally the libshit is the tard

Provide a source.
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>>535022686
This is why you just do and say what you want and retrain your NPOA (natural point of aim) to high chest and neck level. Might makes right
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>>535028025
>Asking for le source to if fish swims in the ocean is perfectly normal
Smartest leftoid kek, you truly are NPC's
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>>535024428
>>535024538
>t. Liberal retards that don't understand society is build on violence.
There are countries were holocaust revisionism, aka truth telling, is illegal. Those governments use force, violence, to silence people and make society conform to their wishes. Society is maintained through violence. We used to have schoolyard bullies that beat up faggots and weirdos and kept those degenerate aspects of society in check at a young age. Now that governments have a monopoly on violence our societies are flooding with these perversities that wouldn't exist if violence was democratized.
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>all the leftoid has to say to wind the rightoid up is SOURCE? INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED?
Completely melts their argument every time
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>>535022686
Why even engage with them? Their entire worldview is rooted in the rejection of reality. You're wasting your time, anon.
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I’ll take a serious shot at your problem. You could first point out that he’s asking you to make an appeal to an higher authority rather than your personal judgement. But what is the basis he would accept any source’s authority? Wouldn’t that take a personal judgment of his own? And what would stop someone from asking for a source, then a source for his source, then a source for his source, etc. Where does authority begin? No matter how far back you go you’re always ending up with some other human being’s personal judgment. Someone had to make the first judgment. And why trust that one?

Of course this is an appeal to him to argue in good faith, which would only work if he was surrounded by people he was worried of looking stupid in front of. If he was surrounded by people who were on his side and just wanted to win the argument they’d all pretend to not understand the point and sidestep the questions
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>>535022686
>had apple juice
>just farted
>it fucking stinks
leftist: source?
jokes aside, the best answer is "what do you mean by "source""?
now he needs to explain what he means by that
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>>535022686
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>>535022686
You can go about this a lot of ways. If you're theologically minded, the guy OP dealt with is basically like one of the guys who worship the Golden Calf after Moses synchronizes lightning to the Law Tablets.

That's actually what he did, btw.



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