I sure do love capitalism :^)
>>535025810>*vulture capitalism
The only way to solve it is with private equity guys hanging from nooses. Let's seem them leverage a buyout for that.
>>535025810This should be illegal because they just did that to Joan Ann Fabrics which was both profitable and filling a role in the economy.
>>535025936>It's not real capitalism!
>>535025810You can say jews here.
>>535025810corporatism***
>>535025810capitalism is financial cannibalism
>>535025810this is why capitalist keep winning
>>535025936>it wasn't real capitalismRopemaxx yourself you nigger retard.
>>535025936oh brother
>>535025810Toys R US is still open I drive past it daily
>>535026081It literally is not. You are a coping communist retard though lol. You silly bitch lmao.
>>535026111bingo
TRU died because toys died. If TRU was still around, what would it be full of right now?
>>535025810Fuck them and their nagging to buy Sports Illustrated for Kids.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwKkd4IGkgE
>>535026369Toys, probably a big partnership with Pokemon to make the de facto Pokemon merch shops which would be massive.
>>535026081If it was real Capitalism, everyone would just start up their own companies and fill the role.
>>535026111accurate, and like capitalism it isn't an ideology, or a system but a consequence
>>535025810Capitalism is better than communism. Imagine being a onions commie cuck lmao
>>535025810kids don't play with toys anymore you 1 post by this id childless kike
Bane Capital. Mitt Romney's outfit. He did it to KB Toys too. I was an assistant manager back in the day.
>>535026512>everyoneyou mean some capitalist>>535026529if you make an assertion like that you need to at least make it clear wtf you're talking about.
>>535025936Also known as Judaism
>>535026369Pop vinyls.
>On March 17, 2005, a consortium of Bain Capital Partners LLC, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts (KKR) and Vornado Realty Trust announced a $6.6 billion leveraged buyout of the company.>Bain CapitalMitt Romney (mormon, startup funding)T. Coleman Andrews III ( WASP, startup funding)Eric Kriss (jude)>Kohlberg Kravis Roberts (KKR)Jerome Kohlberg, Jr. (jude)Henry Kravis (jude)George R. Roberts (jude)>Vornado Realty TrustSteven Roth (jude)
>>535026081you have to be an incredibly dumb nigger to not see the central planning and continuing globalization happening right in front of you
>>535025936All capitalism becomes vulture capitalism.
>>535025810Die? I still have one in my city
Humans don't need a store of just toys.
>>535026111>corporatismt. Illiterate retard
>>535026872>jew rules, jew money.and your business is gone.
interest payments on debt are tax-deductible, equity financing is not. government literally subsidizes massive debt ridden leveraged buyouts through tax policytoys-r-us and physical stores have ada, osha, employment, zoning, building codes, etc. compliance costs that ecommerce can bypass. and amazon got away not charging sales tax for a good chunk of its lifepost 2008 ZIRP made it artificially cheap for private equity to debt load deals and allowed amazon to operate at a loss for years while destroying competition, this should not happen in a free marketcapitalism did not kill toys r us. tax distortion, fed subsidy, regulations, and crony finance killed toys r us.
>>535026804>you mean some capitalistChina owns business's in the US, so communists could always seize the means of production by undercutting everywhere or delivering a better product at a good price. The US has always been socialist at minimum.
>>535025810Half truth. Toys R Us also died via a supposed contractual obligation with Hasbro/Disney, filling their stores with Star Wars merchandise nobody wanted.
>>535025810no you don’t understand, capitalism is when commerce is good, not when commerce hurts people and society
Toys r us are still around although rare. Went to one inside the mall of america about a year ago.
>>535025810Capitalism is about voluntary agreements between 2 parties. The money for this buy-out came from somewhere and whoever gave the money got hosed big time. They were the ones who made the bad decision and got punished for it. Reddit is acting like this was some infinite money glitch.
>>535025810this is a myth perpetuated by GMEfags on reddit
Sears was also destroyed by some lolbert retard.
>>535027139They'd be playing the capitalist game of M-C-M' (money exchanged for commodities exchanged for more money, i.e. a profit), so still dependent on extracting surplus value from labour
>>535025810So it’s the same thing they’ve done to places like red lobster. Is the solution as simple as destroying speculative marketing firms and preventing venture capital firms from taking controlling shares in anything?
>>535025810Is this true? And is that legal? And how can they still create dividends when they had $5 billion in debt?
>>535027001How is globalization not the end state of democratic capitalist nations?
>>535027405Enough with the antisemitism
>>535027137also "30,000 workers got nothing"this is because federal bankruptcy law has a priority hierarchy of creditors. secured creditors aka the equity firms debt instruments get paid out first while worker severance is unsecured and gets crumbs. absent this retarded system, workers could and would negotiate severance protections like wage liens that survive bankruptcy. it's federal bankruptcy code that prioritizes corporatism (big surprise) and prevents these protective arrangements from functioning how they should
>>535027521It is. Capitalists know no borders, and Adam Smith was for the free movement of labour
>>535027137to be fair grocery stores muscling prices on everyone did huge damage to speciality stores long before Amazon. my parents stopped taking me there forever ago when Superstore/Walmart and Canadian Tire started having all the same product range at 10-20% cheaper. the online retail shit was just more coffin nails.
>>535025936So just capitalism
>>535027674*grocery and department stores forgot even the HBC had a decent ish toy section as well (RIP the company that was older than the US and Canada)
>>535025810the problem is jews. Not any economic system in and of itself. Some DO work better than others, but any of them can work in a white society, if jews didn't interfere.
>>535025810>capitalism is the problemWe have a state capitalist government administered by the jews for the purpose of advancing jewish supremacy to the peril of the goyim. Any business that bows down to international jewery is allowed to do anything it wants including running an illegal monopoly that rapes our country. Anyone who says or does anything the jews don't like is spied on, harassed, and targeted for destruction by the jews and our inept IC.
>>535025810>$6.6B
>>535025936>real capitalism has never been tried Oof.
>>535025810>I sure do love kikesftfy
Why doesn't the US just offload all it's debt on Mexico or Puerto Rico?
>>535027674sure but imo that's mostly legitimate market forces. your parents clearly preferred cheap prices over whatever a specialty store has to offer. you might want to wax poetic about how poor mom and pop deserve their cut, but it's a fact that people don't vote for that with their wallet. vertical integration and economies of scale are just more cost effective, a "specialty" store needs to really offer something special to stand out and survive.there are of course some ways where the big box stores enjoy unfair advantages. regulatory complexity and compliance costs are a big one, it's easy for megamart to have a team of lawyers to deal with bullshit, it's not so easy for mom and pop. the taxpayer funded interstate system massively helped the central distribution model. agriculture subsidies for mega farms in cahoots with the big brands. eminent domain also gets abused to build these giant shopping centers when the price of property otherwise would prevent it.
>>535025810unpunished crime is not crime. unenforced law is not law.
>>535025810You know when a bank lends money to private equity to buy a business the bank is taking a risk. The people who take the loan are taking a risk when they buy a failing business and try to turn it around. If a business wasnt failing to start with, it would be incredibly expensive to buy and there wouldnt be steps to improve it since its already running well.The business can completely legitimately take on debt to try to function or expand or innovate or whatever. The people who buy the business and try to save it do of course expect to get paid a wage but they dont always succeed.People mad at private equity are brainless communists. They havnt the slightest idea how the world works.
>>535027226There are guys who will just give you all their money to buy a business that then fails. Its free money! Also no hard feelings. They give it out infinitely and they dont care if you fail and they lose money.
>>535025810Things get bought by PE when they are already dying, its a last ditch thing.
>>535028891>the bank is taking a riskthen bank is not taking a risk because the PE's debt instruments are secured in bankruptcy proceedings. if they fail the bank is guaranteed to get its money back. about the worst that happens is they lose out on interest. and the interest itself is a perverse incentive for PE to buy debt as well because it's tax exempt.
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>>535026369>TRU died because toys died.Not even true. The demographics just shifted. They could habe just sold man children merchandise and habe a kids section next to it.
>>535029098That isn't how it works at all. The bank only gets its money back if there is money to get back. They might be first in line but that doesnt mean they are lending risk free.Brainless communists. You are poor because you are stupid. Not because the world is unfair. Well maybe its unfair that you are stupid but no one else did that to you.
>>535028891sure except it keeps coming out that the same people tasked with saving these companies not only never save them, but also take out massive naked short positions early on. There are tens of thousands of people who have worked for these companies and it's always the same thing, the moment new management comes in it's obvious it's a firesale. They're not actually trying to turn these companies around.
>>535029311If a business is failing and cant be saved of course the assets are sold. What should happen? They are given out to the retarded for free? Throw them in the ocean?
>>535029414thanks for the retarded opinion, tax haven. You're getting a few million more africans for your trouble. The free market has spoken, ireland needs more niggers.
>>535026029Wrong First you torture their families in front of them, then cook their loved one and force them to eat the meat do their loved onesOnce you are done with that, you start torturing them physically and mentally and it will only end the same way 1984 ends, with them loving your system and a bullet inside the back of their head after they have been reduced to nothing but hollow huskTheir death must be physical, spiritual and ontological Demons deserve nothing but total suffering I despise them so much
>>535029483I thought retarded communists love niggers? Anyway in polite society we they are called americans.
>>535029495Nigga you cant even get a job. You arnt doing shit.
Why are people mourning big box stores like blockbuster and toys r us? They were every bit as soulles as walmart is
>>535025810Toys R Us wouldn't have been sold to private equity firms if Amazon wasn't shitting all over it.
>>535029270fine yes I spoke incorrectly, it's not risk free. but it's treated that way because of moral hazard where there is still a lender of last resort and bailouts that make them take risks that they wouldn't otherwise. the risk is socialized, the profit is privatized. don't fucking call me a communist
>>535029568You're Jewish aren't you?I thought how to make the state of Israel suffer the most And I found an extremely easy solution Cram 50 Jews inside their bunkers, cement the door, give them some water so they don't die of thirst, but no food, so they will be forced to eat eachother Do it to the entirety of the Jewish population, you will die like the worthless rats you are eating eachother Mark my words, demonic scum
>>535029744The risk is socialised and the profit is socialised via tax. We live in a system that is a mix of capitalism and socialism.
>>535025810Being able to buy a company by borrowing the money and then somehow sticking the company with the debt so you can bankrupt it away should be 100% illegal.
>>535027107we should really have different words for a system that allows private ownership and entrepeneurship, and whatever the hell this is. small capitalism vs big capitalism?
>>535029785Im just not retarded. I can count. I did some numbers and realised that irish landlords house people basically for free. The promise is that decades later they sell after house prices have inflated but the property isnt a ruin because they used the rent money to maintain it. I have an empty property. Im selling it and paying myself RIGHT NOW. None of this high tax baby sitting of retards and I MIGHT get a pay day decades from now.I can do numbers. Ill re invest the money into something that hasn't been ruined by my communist government.
>>535025810I have so much sympathy for workers. I often wonder if this is how Hitler felt, I'm pretty sure it is. People are like, man, I'm going to work. I'm like, Holy Crap, that's profound. How in the world do you manage that? I have so much sympathy for workers.
>>535025810They had to destroy it because it’s not degenerate enough
>>535030040We are talking about toys are us shelf stackers and till assistants for the most part. Do you really think their lives were set back by their employer going out of business?
>>535025810They had a pension too.So retail wagies worked hard for them for decades only to have the pension fund stolen and they got nothing.That's called freedom and it's the American way.
>>535027069the difference between good capitalism and bad capitalism is the IQ level of the population. as the average IQ of the american voter plummets, the more corporations can get away with corrupting the government.
>>535025810PEF's are fucking evil. Money speculators tend to be that way.
>>535025810I went to Toys R Us to buy my nephew some dumb toy.Everything was overpriced and the quality was on the same level as Wal-Mart or the dollar store.Their lego section was cool, but that's it.It's not the same store I grew up with.
>>535030146Can you link me to some evidence of that? I might actually care if a pension was stolen from someone.
>>535029814>socialised via taxi'd push back on that, it implies the public somehow gets a fair cut of PE's gains. PE partners pay capital gains rates, through the carried interest loophole that's way lower than joe schmoe's income tax rate. it's fucked upbut yes we are in a mix
>>535026369They sold vidja, baby shit like cribs and clothes, books, also bikes, sports stuff, etc.
>>535026192Talmudic banking certainly is + slavery.
>>535030152The IQ difference between someone who defends capitalism and someone that still gets hard is huge
>>535026727>Bane?
>>535030190Big business should pay more tax. I wont argue that.
>>535030145Yes. I know a guy who was laid off. He still hasn't gotten a job. His mom is super sick and that's taking up all his time. His girlfriend got laid off too from somewhere else. The job market sucks right now. He'll lose his apartment soon. Which he pays more for than I do in mortgage payments and taxes.You might be comfy, but the working class is getting fucked right now.
>>535027147This is one of those internet lies that one dude made up, provided no evidence, and retards believe it.
>>535025810toys r us still exists herebut, toys r us put small local toyshops out of business so fuck themthey just got fucked up in turn. there's always a bigger fish
>>535030355What's his resume like?
>>535025810Now do KB Toys
>>535025810it literally was Amazon thoughit was only bought by vultures because they knew it was going to die because of Amazonhow the fuck does Amazon, Google, Faceberg not get anti-trust suits, but fucking Ticketmaster of all shit does?Ticketmaster effects like 0.000000001% of the population, while those others effect 100%
>>535030462Working at Toys R Us for like a decade. Before that I don't know, but he was never in jail or anything. He was some low level manager that made like an extra dollar an hour or something so he had keys and all that. He has some IT certificates that wouldn't be worth fuck all today, but he's not a retard or anything and can be trained.
>>535027993>>535027706>>535027069>>535026081>>535026280>If we shit in the broth, brown or not its still broth!Allowing jews into your economy doesnt mean suddenly that thing wont work. If you have a group of ethnically european men building a house or something and a jew comes in and begins taxing and cannibalizing the children of the human men and the outcome becomes poorer from the distractions of the talmudic parasite, you wouldnt say that all houses are inherently inhabitable would you?
>>535026062>oh no where will I get my action figures legos funko pops and craft supplies to piddle my life away doing nothing
>>535030152The difference is the level of economic growth. In a flat or near flat economy, there is no incentive to grow production. The way to grow profit is to make the product inferior whilst charging a growing price It's commonly known as enshittification. It's what happened to the videogame industry for example once it reached market saturation.
>>535026111Checked and correct
>>53502581030,000 workers got salaries. They aren't entitled to anything because they do not own the company. if a company could do it, they'd only have robots do everything.
>>535025810Then maybe you shouldn't have destroyed it you retarded monkey.
>>535026081Real capitalism is buying and trading goods, services, property: actual tangible things. Things like futures, shorting, and being able to buy up and cannibalize companies for pure profit is vulture capitalism. Sure kike shills will tell you its 100% legal which absolves it of any moral shortcomings, but it breeds corruption and allows it to grow to a monstrous scale; and is partly the reason why things are so fucked today.
>>535030590Yeah i worked in toys r us for like one summer as a teenager. He never thought of doing something else? Lmao
>>535030656Big games companies wanted subscriptions and loot boxes. Now indie games are eating their lunches. Steam is killing them too. The market is working when it comes to games.The last game i bought was €20. No micro transactions or subscription. Fucking sweet.
>>535030727Yeah, I worked shitty retail jobs back in the day too. I wanted more, but not everyone does or is capable of it. It's not they don't need people to work those jobs. Anyway, there needs to be some kind of balance between capital and labour or it's going to become everyone's problem soon enough. People don't just lay down and die.
>>535028462your second paragraph kind of debunks your first paragraph, so thanks for doing some of the work for me. to that i'll add that mom and pop stores don't need maximum and increasing profit at all times, they only need enough profit to get by. this is the difference between the privately owned business and the joint stock company.also joint stock companies use pooled resources from politically-connected billionaires, which moves closer and closer to communism. think about it, when all the billionaires collectively own the company through hedge funds, AND they use lobbyists to get unfair advantages from the government (which you wrote wbout), how is that not getting closer and closer to communism? it's no wonder that the communist revolutions were funded by wall street bankers. lolbertarians don't have a serious answer to how we prevent pooled resources and unlimited wealth from simply buying out every avenue of political resistance, even down to the education system which is owned by these same people.
>>535030145I just can't comprehend how the common mortal thinks about his world
>>535030933Just be a handy man painting shit. Cleaning gutters. Climbing ladders to clean windows. Those guys get paid WELL if they do a good job and get a client list. They are rare. Too many lazy shits trying to do small jobs for big money.Warning. You might have to work a 35 hour week actually working to make good money consistently doing those small jobs.
>>535026062no side hussle resource store for you goy, only chinaman and shitskins get to sell the salt lamp
>>535031047Iv done that exact job. Just get another different no skill minimum wage job. Lmao. Also get an education and a career. Those jobs are meant for kids and retarded immigrants. Not adult white men.
>>535026369>If TRU was still aroundthey just opened a new location in Ecuador
>>535027369you know the phrase "surplus value" makes you sound like a retard, right? you don't need marxist terminology to criticize capitalism.
>>535031103Bud, I have a well paying job with a union. I'm still doing fine, but I can see the price of everything going up and cutting into my budget. It doesn't help that my girl has a bunch of health problems.But still, I'm not worried about me right this second. I'm looking at the suffering of other working class people and telling you that things won't continue like this for long before something breaks.The guy I'm talking about has years and years of retail experience. It is not normal for him to struggle so much to find a job. He has no job and no money. It is not reasonable to expect him to go buy a fucking van and ladders and cleaning supplies and equipment to start a business. Not everyone has seed money like you.
>>535025810I love how people always like to blame the "private equity firms" for doing stuff like this, but always seem to forget that private equity firms wouldn't be able to buy companies and do stuff like this unless the owners of the company were willing to sell. All the owners of Toys R Us had to do was say "no" to the sale and none of that would have happened.
>>535026369they are all over japan and sell kids toys and allot of baby stuff
>>535025810WRONG! The founder of Toys R Us regularly donated to abortion clinics. HE KILLED HIS OWN MARKET.
>>535030591I dunno man, I've seen plenty of so called anti-communists and they either lacked a chin or were pretty fat. Both sides have ugly people but you can't just base yourself off that. It's childish.
>>535027993"real capitalism" worked for a very long time in america. it can be maintained as long as the voting base isn't completely retarded and blind to government corruption, like we are today.
>>535025810Former Toys R Us worker hereTotal kike death
>>535029495Based
>>535029814dude you are speaking to americans who send 95% of their taxes to grifting jews in some shape or form. only a small percentage of our taxes are used for things that benefit us in any way.
I'm a toys r us kid
>>535025810>>The 2005 acquisition was approved by the company’s board and shareholders. It was not a government seizure or forced sale.However, several pressures can make rejecting a buyout difficult:>>Shareholders are often offered a large premium above the current stock priceGreedy boomers killed it.TRU didnt have to be sold but shareholders wanted the money.Fuck you and fuck your capitalism which DOES NOT EQUATE WITH A FREE MARKET
>>535025810>I sure do love capitalismYour government made those business practices legal. Who's to blame? The accountants that abuse the law or the corrupt politicians who make broken laws for them to abuse?
This is why left and right both come to the conclusion that a portion of the population belongs in forced labor camps.
>>535031379Na. Look at Asia. They work way harder than us for way less. We can go much lower. No one will do shit until they are hungry and food is free in the west if you are willing to admit you can't afford it.
>>535026350Sure it is. Capitalism that isn't strictly controlled will burn down a civilization as bad as communism, maybe worse.
>>535026804>Hipity hoppity, abolish private propertyCan you even own your own home under communism, or is it up to the state to see that it's put to optimal use?
>>535025936It's literally the capitalism that you root for working as intended.
>>535032127Working people don't find slavery any more appealing than you do. Free food is also becoming a problem. I've talked to food bank workers. The rules are much stricter now than they've ever been and they are struggling with donations. Some people that used to donate are using the food banks now.You are completely out of touch.
>>535032127People in the West have done much more when the food wasn't free. You've spent too much time around people poisoned by orientalism. It might get you killed one day. Normalcy bias and a deep ignorance of history and mistaking white people for Asians, very dangerous combination.
>>535032752He's some parasite working in Irelands booming economy of financial theft and grifting. He'll end up being lynched by his own people.
>>535032825Yeah, I was getting that impression too. Still. One can always hope that they can get a clue before things become too "radical".
