>Worth it.
OH MY GOD!!! WHO CARES!!!
>>535033678and you guys are telling me we arent going to have chud riots to keep people from doing something about the cost of living?
>>535033678The recession began years ago. The 'analytics' don't come out much later, like they did in 2008 because the whole system is operated by crooks and pedophiles.Kikes need to hang once and for all.
>>535033751this is a paycheck to paycheck wagie, next week you is a different nigga
>>535033759Why would chuds riot? They voted for this, they will tolerate, even welcome destitution to own the libs.
>>535033678The stock market is at ATH. America is winning. You lost, tranny
>>535033678Good now real estate faggots can fuck off and leave housing alone allowing prices to become affordable, another great 3D move by President Trump
>>535033766>like they did in 2008the 2008 depression is not a separate event, it never ended
>>535033678how this will affect Isn'treal?
something sometimes happens
>>535033743that’s the thing, trump was actually perfectly teed up to decimate in midtermsmortgage rates were touching sub-6%, inflation was getting tame, bonds were getting bravethen this polish jewnigger makes a phone call, and trump instantly betrays not only his entire base but also his nation, while simultaneously causing and maintaining an inflationary bend while rates are already elevatedwarsh MUST hike rates, which will make Trump look even more retarded because it’s his new fucking nominee after bashing Powell for hikes for yearsif warsh cuts rates it’s fucking over
Trump is going to be president when the bond market collapses and it's hilarious
>>535033678New system coming in this year we hope. Mass tokenization on blockchain. XRP/DTCCMost debt is illegal anyway,
>>535033678
>>535034042>that’s the thing, trump was actually perfectly teed up to decimate in midtermswhy do you give a fuck about trump winning the midterms out of all the consequences of this lmfao
>>535033678K... KEEP ME POSTED
This means nothing
>>535034042Please don't pretend Trump has no agency. Have you ever thought he wanted to bomb Iran regardless of what Israel said?
>>535033678Just get a job will ya ? Lazyass crackass
>>535033678they were over 5% in 2023, and 2025
>>535033678Bond returns are higher than they've been in almost 20 years and you somehow think that's a bad thing?
>>535034211Because it's a political strategy that makes logical sense, meaning it can gauge rationality, you retarded serf
>>535034042>perfectly teed up
>>535034211because it demonstrates that he saw an improving situation and decided the best way to improve his lot was to start a war in the middle east because israel had a hankerin’it’s more proof that he’s a retard, and now we’re at warthought bongs understood nuance
global oil reserves will run out by september. as early as july in some countries. the last pre-war oil tankers arrived last week. if blompf doesn't surrender within that time frame, it's over.
>>535034252>This means nothingThis means that demand for USD is declining, and consequently, so is demand for USD investments. This is exactly what everyone who knows what they're talking about predicted would happen because of the strait. And this is also why trump is currently on his knees in china together with the entire jewish business elite.
>>535033678Good. The Fed money is fake. So is the stock market. Return to precious metals and crypto.
>>535034335it was the best he could’ve had given what was already going onnot sure what you fags are sperging abouthe had a decent shot of holding seats before the war, now he has a near zero chance of doing so - why are you all so pissy?
>>535033857It's because they have been led to believe they are being persecuted. Only death will release them from bamboozlement.
>>535034211He's just highlighting how much of an unforced error this whole Iran debacle has been. All Trump had to do was stay out of Middle East bullshit and Republicans would have held on to Congress. Now even with gerrymandering they will get slaughtered in midterms and Trump deserves it.
>>535034473You couldn’t buy a home with that in either period. It’s not legal tender under federal law despite the constitution blatantly stating that the current law isn’t law.
>>535034379Save me your piss on backs and tell them it's raining.>It's gonna this >It's gonna that i July if this and that doesn't happen.What else did your tarot tranny tell you?
>>535034545Dude, shut the fuck up. Gold has always been valuable.
>>535033678That's a pretty good deal
>>535034291It's a bad thing because the interest rate should be 20%+. Nobody should be willing to lend money to amerimutt burgernigger retards, but bond baggies keep bailing out the tard nation by lending money at a loss
>>535033678Good.
>>535034563What exactly do you want here if you're not interested in political scenarios and predictions, rabbi?
>>535034042He cucked on the deportations and it's basically over.That pissed a LOT of people off.They're shutting down the Florida deportation facility because it's not getting used enough.
>>535033857No, it's that liberalism is dead in America and isn't coming back. You need to have air and spare fuel to entertain liberal nonsense and there is currently none. Sorry, tranny. You should probably kill yourself immediately.
>>535034473>and crypto
>>535034772>That pissed a LOT of people off.Wait till he pulls a reagan.
>>535033678Bitcoin is plummeting
>>535034579>Except for times in history when it was worthless because of how much was currently in the market.
>>535034579And you have to offramp to fiat
>>535034439Shhhh swissy, you need to calm down sweaty. You have no clue what you're saying or talking about. Like a child wandering into the middle of a conversation. What a fool you are. Quiet down, foreigner. Real people are speaking.
>>535033751Global debt market is the one to watch (no, not muh 'stawnks')More important than spiking 30-yr is the 10-yrKeep watching (rapid spikes in) the 10 year yield
>>535034881>says the jew kike
>>535033678good, muttniggers subhumans deserve to suffer more, everything for netanyahu and those poor kikes.i still remember the webm of a mutilated war veteran mutt crying because he couldn't afford gas KEK
>>535034753Alright, you cought me. Right there red handed pointing out that the future, even political can't be foreseen with or without articles.
>>535034439Shut the fuck up, prattynobody takes you seriously, you are just a lolcow
>>535035027All for Israel
>>535033823But he did eat breakfast this mornint
>>535034906Sorry, I'm just too excited to see what happens to a country with a $900 billion annual trade deficit when demand for its currency collapses. Economists will write entire libraries on your downfall.
>>535034494https://archive.is/EdTBb>lead to believe'Chuds' are going to find you and you're going to be killed and that's a good thing.
>>535033916>2008 never endedCorrect.2008 was the year 'capitalism' died and permanently went to heaven Forever.After that, all HNW entities, corporations, sovereign governments, all global 'economics' is totally dependent on endless infinite supplies of debt note fiat currency from private owned central banks to prevent instantaneous implosion.Whatever this is rn 2009—2026, is not capitalism
>>535035114>foreigner is excited that the US is doing an international thing and mistakenly thinks this gives him a place to comment on AmericaNo no no, sweaty. You poor sweet summer child. You should probably focus on building a coo-coo clock or something. You're getting all fussy. OK, hon?
>>535034545>dude it’s not legal tender because the government says it’s not!!Ain’t gonna stop me from selling some of my properties with some spit, a handshake, and a buttload of silver, commie-tranny.
>>535033759Riots dont just happen.They need people to plan them and start them.If chuds had the skills to do that they wouldnt be chuds
>>535034859I hear a lot of people saying he might.I wonder if that's why Vance seems to be distancing himself, if he feels kinda betrayed and doesn't want to be seen as agreeing with those policies as to not hurt HIS chances.
>>535035166It's a money-printing-press-distribution-economy. Although we've had it since the abandonment of the gold standard, they've really gone overboard with it since 2008.
>>535033751Dont worry migger bro, china will save us
>>535033678Nobody understands what this means. What does it mean for my efferiums?
>>535033916Ding ding ding.Our economy has been on life support since 2008.
>>535035166>Too Big to Fail>Embracing Monopolies>Forcing small businesses to close but allowing large companies to stay open during the coof.Corporations took over the government.It's why you also started seeing the pushing of SJW messaging, because research has shown the more divided people are the better it is for a company/government because they struggle to organize against you if they all hate each other.
>>535035200Lmao, nigger. You want to explain money to a swiss? There isn't a per capita monetary ranking we don't top. That's why we're going down too, but it's worth it.
>>535033678He could've been the best president of america, as far as i remember he wasn't really hated in other countries (besides Iran or Syria, 2019 bombings and Soleimani assasination, you know) and mutts used to praise him. Now he is a joke, saudis and every GCC fags are going to jump off the ship and go to suck chink dick just to avoid losing their oligarch status, qatar just did it a few weeks ago. No oil = no PEDOllar power. American empire is dead and orange nigger killed it just to please israel.
>>535035597You're not swiss, prattyEveryone knows who you are, prattyYou're a shitjeet living in mountain jew territory
yields were higher in the 80s and 90sso what's the big deal now?
>>535033902nigger 1% of the population own 51% of all stock, if you add 9% and make it 10 they own 89% of all stockthats globally btw, so who gives a flying fuckkkkk what the stock market is doing, I have a 401k through my company and I still don't give a fuckyou are not part of the 10% either
>>535035475It also inverts the relationship between business and culture: never before in history would people accept a speech code given to them buy someone they were paying.
>>5350357471980s there was a severe recession tard boy
>>535035718Think what you want, mutt. My white ass will watch your empire go up in flames with great satisfaction.
>>535035597>be central european low-population relatively remote neutral country that will hold the money of anyone and agree their client can fuck anything they want so long as they don't fuck them directlyI fail to see how you think your people are monetary geniuses for figuring this cuck chair position of the world out.
>>535035877Lol nevermind, you're just a jeet. Pathetic. Are you Brahmin you bloody benchod bastard? Should I not redeem my swiss bank account, saar?
>>535035877>We wuz Aryan an shieettt!!you are brown pratty, and your Swiss visa is gonna run out soon!
>>535033678Cool. So when are the cheap loans happing?
>>535035864Recessions occur constantly broccoli head. You were born in this century, you have no idea about the past or reality. fr fr no cap ong. Jesus dude, I am in my mid-40s and have raging erections every day and need to jerk off at least once to completion and you're like 25 and need ED pills to get it up for a half hour for a 8/10 23 year old woman. You are pathetic.
Why does anyone expect the US to pay off its debt when it's larger then it's entire GDP?
>>535035929>BrahminIt says a lot that you capitalize the word. Fuck, I don't even know what that means. You pajeets are a special breed. Using your own race as an insult because you're losing an argument. Lmao
>>535033678Is that low or high?
>>535036001About 6 months. Maybe sooner, depending on market (looks at real estate market in America) so probably soon. At the very least, Boomers are dying off.
>>535036131If you lend your government money for 30 years, they'll pay you 5% interest per year on the money. Judge for yourself.
>>535036143So... housing prices to the Moon?
>>535033678I was getting 5.5% on 6 month t-bills during bidenfuck faggot trump
>>535036109>N-noooo!!! Y-y-you're the jeet! That's sad. I capitalized it because it mocks you shitskins further, like your dumb caste system means anything to the rest of the world. Lol you really do think you're brahmin or whatever retarded ideas your small worm brains think is reality. The fact you made a point of it reveals you to be a jam boy, Dahlit.
>>535036213No. That was the opposite of what I was suggesting. Are you autistic or something?
>>535033751Miggers really don't understand anything about the world
this is cuz trump is owning the chinese, they own a lot of our debt and now that our debt is worth less they're losing hard
>>535033678locked in
>>535034772>He cucked on the deportations and it's basically over.Worst criminals are gone. Mass deportations of 100 Million are waiting on SCOTUS re: birthright citizenship. Which will happen, regardless of what SCOTUS says.
>>535036291It doesn't help me if you use your shithole words. I have no idea what they mean.
>>535036324Housing prices go up with lower rates. Simple as. They get low enough, and you get 07'/08' again.
>>535033678Inflation will go over 5% by next month.
>>535036326Go say miggers in front of one of those niggers you worship and try to explain it before they start stomping your head into the pavement, nigger loving coward. Lol I can call you a nigger loving coward and that actually means something, as opposed to your little cuck online language you would never say out loud to a real person in public. What a coward. Or, as I say, a typical liberal.
>>535036368Pratty, you are the most famous swiss flag lolcow on this websiteEveryone knows who you are
>>535036361>Worst criminals are gone.No they are not. They just grabbed a bunch of people who looked gang-adjacent, along with some gang members. Just getting M-13 out of the country would be a massive undertaking, and they aren't hiding in Minnesota.They've spent more effort harassing Haitians framed for cat-eating.
>>535033678Don't fall for Disaster Theater.
535036368Shhh easy jam boy, you have other threads to get (You)s in for your izzat. But no more from me. Your skin is the color of poop and no white woman will ever touch you. Even whores specify "No Indians."
>>535036464Migger.
>>535033678wu tang financialshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhUnEg0he4A&t=48s
>>535036387You can't deduce that from the figures here. The interest rate on government bonds is more about the demand for USD investments, which appears to be declining.
>>535036540And even more shitskin words. Sorry not my world, shitskin.
>>535033857Trump ran on affordability and no more wars.
>>535036493>>Worst criminals are gone.>No they are not.Yes they are. Listed on the ICE website. Thousands deported. With photos and crimes listed.
>>535033678What's the usual rate?>5.25%HOLLLYYYYYY FUCKIIIINNNN SHIIIII8IT
>>535033759No one is going to do a god damn fucking thing. They can decrease your quality of living until it's 16 people cramed in to a dorm with no AC and one toilet and you'll instantly roll over on anyone who starts thinking about killing the warden for an extra bread crust.
>>535036575One of the next largest places people like to park money is housing...
535036622>keeps pretending he isn't a Patel>NO YOU ARE THE SHITSKIN SAAAR! ok buddy. and this is your first visit here. Try not to shit in the street today. Just a little bit of self-improvement may make you slightly less disgusting to real people.
>>535033678why cant my credit card have a 5% interest rate?
>>535036698More like from the other direction. This auction went badly for the government. That's the news here. Normally, they pay lower interest rates because there's higher demand for their bonds.
>>535034545>You really expect me to illegally accept these bricks of gold as a form of payment?>Come back when you have some fiat, chump
>>535035324>>535035466>on life support since 2008The next major event was mid-2019: Overnight repo crisis of global investment banks, that suddenly (it had been brewing since spring 2018) could not cover their overnight repos for all national and regional banks' daily transactions and contracts. Elizabeth Warren was on Capitol Hill "wtF is going on here;" hundreds of billions $$$$$$ in bailouts per month, almost $1T total from Sept-Dec 2019 to keep the global investment bank system afloat.Miraculously though, in Jan 2020 along came covid: and with it another $12T to keep the global investment bank black box gigacasino merrily rolling along:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMkq75L5n_kuntil, of course the early 2023 banking collapse (SVB) that is still ongoing and being papered over...as stated ^^^^upthread, it's the global debt market into which all the HNW entities, investment banks, corporations etc. are giga-interleveraged. Debt-based worldwide economic model.When the global debt market goes, so goes it all
>>535033904cope n seeethe homecelgorillions of shitskins will be snuggled in to cock block your shelter spergs
>>535033949>>535034046Egliniggers ain't sending their best
>>535036807They are quite different markets. US bonds attract money from all over the world. The US housing market is more driven by local money.
>>535036865What would you say if I told you it could be -100% if you desire?
>>535037032>The US housing market is more driven by local money.You haven't been to Caliwali, have you?
>>535036865Moronic comment. Won't tell you why cause stay dumb.
>>535036964You convincingly sound American and not some shitskin ESL on a VPN...
>>535037032>The US housing market is more driven by local money.It's increasingly being driven by Investment Funds like BlackSTONE buying up large real estate portfolios.
>>535037085California continues to not be representative of America, foreigner.
>>535033759and do what exactly with that information?
>>535033678Right on time picrel. Economic crash will be announced 2027
>>535037163>foreignerTrue. I am a native born Caliwalifornian. Paid almost $8/gal yesterday.
>>535036069I can piss six feet in the air tard boy
>>535037104>t. forever homeless spergstay assblasted while we buy up ur cunt
>>535033678I'm making good money on my t bills, state bonds, and municipal funds. Get a 7% dividend tax free and can trade them for each other tax free.
>>535037032 <---14 pbtid Switzerland flag>quite differentWrong. Everything is interleverage via speculative debt instruments; it is all connected.>bondsAre *everyone's problem*. Most of all so, because entire world relies on a single default reserve debt unit—UST—by which 99% of all debt payments must be made.https://archive4plebs.org/pol/thread/500310690Nobody wants to buy the debt, rn. This is a global debt-based economic model. That's why the global bond market is so integral crucial and the base foundation for every other single thing.The Money Delugehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs>[quoted from] Zurich, Switzerland citizen: "I'm a former banker, now retired. I can't say that with pride anymore. They're casinos now."
>>535034283That's the yield of the ones you can buy from the market, the government auctions are different since they only happen on specific dates. Those haven't sold for 5% between now and 2007
>>535037085Of course, that exists. But access to real estate is much more difficult for foreign capital, and resale takes a long time. If foreigners have USD lying around, they usually buy government bonds with them. These are considered safe and can be quickly converted into cash.
>>535036464All miggers are nigger lovers though. Just because you love israel and kikes more doesn't detract from the fact you are all nigger loving cuckolds. Its like how you pretend to hate indians while every single elite you worship is mass importing them for ai. I refuse to believe you are a real person.
>>535037131It's driven by Debt.All wealth today is sourced and generated (no, not from 'capital', 'work', or 'labor' but) from *speculative debt instruments*.The post-1970s global economy is Financialized. Phase 1 of global Financialization was completed 1999 with repeal of Glass-Steagall.Real estate (see the video YouTube posted just upthread) is the prime Real Economy intersection of assets with Financialization, and the source of the greatest gigabubble in world economic history; everywhere especially in the west, real estate is where all money is shoveled into, it produces in the United States a far greater return than even stocks.
>>535034291Yield tracks the return on the investment of the buyer. The higher it is the lower the price of the bond and the more expensive it is for the borrower. Right now you're looking at a situation where the US government is poised to go into a death spiral as the higher rates forces them to borrow more money which causes raises rates even further which forces them to borrow more money and so on.
>>535037094>>535037094so creditors are fine with 5% interest from america but need 38% interest from me?
>>535037347Yes, that exists too. Bundling mortgage debt and then selling it off piecemeal. But these are all relatively minor phenomena when considering the main cash flows.
>>535037460>15 pbtid Switzerland flag>foreigners have USDThey're buying up real estate, that produces a far greater rate of return than any other investment.>bonds are safeRead post # 535037347
>>535033743Trump will take all the blame because this Israeli trash controls the media with Epstein blackmail
>>535035812seething child
>>535036206inflation has been openly acknowledged to be double digits for the past 5 years
>>535037460Are you actually Swiss? Maybe you are, because you don't seem to know the US markets they invest in. You can sell on the West coast @min escrow time. People might even get in a bidding war for your property.
>>535036213no, housing prices are propped up right now but no ones buying
>>535033678RAWWWWWR RIGHT UP THE BUMHOLE
Cool I hope this causes a correction, but it won’t.
>>535037751It would take YEARS of inventory to cover how many people that have been pushed out of the housing market for the last 2 decades.
>>535037596>16 pbtid Switzerland flag, responds four minutes later to a 42-minute documentary>main cash flowsare from central banks, that's who's providing the cashCantillon Effectshoveling it into real estate, stock buybacks, anything that makes money off of money alone (especially for the top HNW class)>"relatively minor"Watch ^^ 'The Money Deluge', *read and comprehend*<-- my posts Swissfaggot'Free money' is what this Financialized global system is based on
>>535037735>SwissHe has zero idea of how global asset markets post-1990s, function
>>535036956You misunderstood what happened in 2019. To keep it simple, a repo is what the central banks lends to other banks to balance their books every night so they don’t get rekt in the stock market and have to liquidate assets, the banks pay the fed back plus an interest fee the next day. This only happens when there are no other banks doing the repo for other banks instead of the fed being the lender of last resort, which happened in 2019, these banks had all their money tied up with other things and the fed had to step in so some deflationary crash didn’t happen. Then in 2020 they removed reserve requirements so banks could just make up money on the spot, before it had to be tied with an asset at a rate of 10% reserve requirement for every money created.
>>535037618The chinese are buying american real estate worth just 15 billion dollars a year, and that's with a trade deficit of 200 billion dollars a year. Probably more if you also include vietnam.You have to consider the scale.
>>535033678I don't even know if this is higher or normal than usual
>>535037847I know rich people that have 20+, $1,000,000+ homes, that sit empty. Just as a safe place to park cash.
>>535033678Help me because I'm retarded. 5% return over 30 years? Isn't that fucking garbage?
>>535033678So if there's a housing collapse do houses become affordable again?
>>535037982Per year.
>>535037774>correctionIt's coming: implosion of the global debt market.That's what bond yield rapid spikes, are indicators of. Vast instability across the global debt market that has been ongoing for almost five years now.Bonds are supposed to remain steady and stable, reliable. That is why historically the bond market is perceived by finance professionals as 'safe' and protected. Difference is now (in the past half century) the global economy is entirely founded on Debt. It's a debt-based economic model, all wealth is today generated from speculative debt instruments (far, far beyond solely bonds).read my other posts itt
>>535033904Rising bond yields push mortgage rates higher and making housing less affordable. If I can get 5% over 30 years from the federal government, what rate can I expect from mortgage-backed securities? When the former goes up, the latter must go up, because they compete for the same investors.
>>535036527They're the same picture
>>535037639worship the NYSE all you want but dont self project, when I said I dont give a fuck about your stock market, I meant every word tard boy
>>535038010Sweet so if the global debt market collapses no more debt? I voted for this.
>>535036693>Thousands/30,000,000+
>>535036954>Your highly valuable, untraceable one-step from money commodity isn't good here, ya loser! Scram!
>>535037811conversely, when the cops stop enforcing divorce court judgments and pastors stop cheerleading for single moms, the demand for housing will drop as bitches start living with the father of the children again. demand will also drop when the h1b indentures go home and the dei laws that pull in the migrants go away
>>535038010Typically severe (likely genuinely severe) dislocations in financial markets and currencies mean war. It’s not hard to discern where the battle lines are being drawn.
>>535038052>t.
>>535038003yes. a housing collapse is an unqualified good for the american people
>>535037965in argentina the wealthy purchase properties in the united states because it holds its value more than their own currency does at homethe poorer people will buy pallets of bricks because they also hold their price more than their own currency, they're also harder to steal than a shoebox full of money even poorer rely on what they call 'caves' which is illegal forex essentially
>>535037816>>535037847All your know-it-all bullshit, and as soon as I present the figures that prove you understand nothing about financial markets, you fall silent? Lmao.
>>535038227nobody respects you, prattyyour role here is to act as a lolcow
>>535038147You're not wrong. We actually have a surplus of housing. Too many men & women living separate, too many boomers living in 4+ bed homes, and WAY to many shitskins being let in to keep housing prices up.
>>535037545>All wealth today is sourced and generated (no, not from 'capital', 'work', or 'labor' but) from *speculative debt instruments*.Yep
>>535033678Would a covid style lockdown benefit them?
>>535037905Wrong. Did (You) watch the video?Overnight repos for *global investment banks* means, that the banks which also are Primary Dealers for all central banks i.e the source banks of the global monetary system, no longer had money to keep the entire national (U.S.) and global banking system functioning. Same as in 2007-2008: the result would have been an instantaneous global Credit Freeze. <---Do (You) know what that is, leaf?>muh reserve requirementsThat was only 1 small and irrelevant component of what occurred post-March-2020. (You) have Zero idea what (You)'re posting about.>"so some deflationary crash"(You) have Absolutely Zero Idea what you're posting about.The mid-2019 overnight repo crisis was the global investment banking system about to collapse entirely, a threat equivalent to 2007 and MBSs / the Wall Street banking centers implosion in global scope.It was 'solved' by throwing the switch on covid for a 'global emergenceeee'<--That created $12 trillion in "new liquidity" for the global investment banks' black box gigacasino in this debt-based economic system to keep rolling along.(You), leaf have Zero Fucking Idea or even tiny notion what you're posting about.>>535037965>park cashCorrect. Returns better than stocks as well
>>535037965And these aren't Americans? Because, you know, you wanted to refute my argument that the housing market is primarily driven by local money.
>>535038010Ok Michale Burry.>>535038161>typicalDo you have an example other than WWII?
>>535038163t. 90%er
>>535036361>Which will happen, regardless of what SCOTUS says.How do you figure that? We can't even get the fucking SAVE act passed because of all the traitors.
>>535038277Checked & kek'd
>>535038227Why are you replying to a schizo spammer?
>>535038227>the figures? What have (You) "shown" itt?Global debt market is all that matters. Muh financial marketttttttts don't mean shit. Nobody is buying the debt ($12 trillion of which was issued just in the past six years, not to mention the $2T+ annually generated by the U.S. gov's own spending)(YOu)'re another that has Zero Fucking Idea how the global post-1990s system functions.(You) 18 pbtid Switzerland flag are most in need of watching 'The Money Deluge' posted upthread.
>>535038350Actually, since you're asking, I'd say about 50% are foreign born.
>>535038387Because I fall for him in every one of these threads. He understands what happened in 2007, so I always think he knows something. I really need to stop. Thanks for the reminder.
>>535038387>memeflag 1 pbtid enters the thread
>>535038177Yay I voted for this
>>535035027As much as I dont support this war, I love the KD ratio we always get against sand niggers
>>535038494>20 pbtid Swiss$#@mNothing (You) think or post on 4chan matters.the only thing that matters is the global debt market
>>535038359The modern monetary system, including gold backed fiat, only goes back to 1913 or therabouts, but specie backed currency defaults and competitive devaluations (as opposed to the coordinated devaluations we see today) prompted many conflicts back in the olden times. Source? It came to me in a dream.
>>535038339>Same as in 2007-2008: the result would have been an instantaneous global Credit Freeze.Yea that’s called a deflationary crash stupid. You don’t know what repo is, in fact you just repeated what I said but in a more dumber way. Banks had no money because it was all tied up and they couldn’t freely print because of reserve requirement, hence fed being the lender of last resort and stepping into repo for everyone.
>>535038474Okay, my question wasn't good. A better question would be whether their capital comes from abroad.
>>535038690Good thing reserve ratios were set to zero for the banks during Covid and remain there today, eh?
>>535033678>Weimerica continuesThey're will be more land grabs just like Weimar, and it will, at first, seem like a good a deal. However, you will own nothing and be happy.
>>535038690>deflationary crashFuck, don't even try to explain it to him. I made that mistake too. The word deflation really triggers him.
>where does money come from>How is money created97% Owned — How is money createdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4YoMandatory viewing for all readers rn of this thread>"The real money to be made in the world today is not by producing anything at all. It's simply by forms of speculating — basically making money from money. That's the most profitable, and by far and away the biggest form of economic activity that exists in the world today."— Nick Dearden, quoted in '97% Owned' ^
>>535038705Ok. That I do not fully know. I would say some of it is from overseas. The % I can't say. This is just the people I personally know.
>>535033678For me it’s the 10y/3m spread>picrel
>>535038762>>535038776What does that mean? Explain to me like I am webm related
>>535033678If I had 20k to invest would this be a good idea? I don't like gambling.
>>535038870Maybe, if you legit didn't touch it, and plan on there being a country and (You) in 30 years.
Of course the stock market will hit a record high soon. I really hope if there's another economic depression, it's called the Trump Depression, so that fucking fat kike loving retard can feel proud to have his name attached to something he did
>>535038690>>535038794>hurr durrEntire world relies on a single default reserve currency denomination UST/USDThat's it that's allthere's no more 'muh inflation /deflation', "comparative currency" analyses, not even 'muh sound money' (although yes <-----that 'defrays the pain' until entire debt-based system comes crashing down and for a random example is why we see rn all central banks stocking up on silver-gold)Credit, that word comes from Latin: >credereto believe
>>535038370instead of screaming into your keyboard like a child you could try bettering yourself.
>>535038927You can sell the bonds on the market at any time.
>>535038644Pure Gold standards create innovations and wealth. Look at the period between 1817-1914 ie classical gold standard, loads of discoveries, inventions and innovations. And then between 1931-1971 proto breten-woods and breten woods gold standard.The only time a gold standard didn’t work was during the late Roman Empire but Rome had biblical calamities happening all at the same time from 274-610.>>535038762Yes, that’s why it’s either hyperinflation or depression if the powers that be were moral but we know they’re trying to kill everyone and reduce populations for the next phase which might be a new gold standard don’t know.>>535038944100% pseud
>>535039050With markdowns, sure.
>>535038690>muh repo, 'more dumber'= (You)>repo for everyonethe U.S. Federal Reserve just happens (a century later, though many dozens of other powerful central banks now exist) to be the issuer of today's worldwide *default reserve* currency unit.This is also important because, the U.S. government and its Treasury are thus looked to for solvency (because USD/UST is the default worldwide reserve unit)That makes the U.S. and its dollar denomination no only 'special' but unique in world history, because never in world history has the whole world all 160 nations relied upon a single (nation's) currency as the default reserve. Whole entire global debt-based system is founded on 1 currency denomination, as never before in history of human civilization.Annually, fully half of the U.S. fedgov spending (over $1 trillion/year) is instantly vacuumed up by Interest Payments on the debt. Which doesn't inspire confidence in the buying (by other countries or anyone else) of USTInterest Payments on the federal government's debt now vastly exceed annual discretionary spending.Nobody on these threads has any financial or economic literacy at all, they're all zoomlennial currencycrypto/biz/Traderfucktard Brainlets
>>535039061>another Brainlet know-Nothing leaf joins
>>535037244still not beating the viagra accusations
>>535038846The reserve ratio is the proportion of deposits to loans, at 5% it means that the banks can loan $20 dollars for every dollar of assets (deposits) they hold. Zero reserve ratio means they can loan infinite money, meaning they have their own money printers that can go brrr. This is in addition to government money printers also going brrr. It’s like free money!
when is the scheduled oil dump to keep treasuries down then?
if anons scrolling/viewing this thread do nothing else, watch and comprehend the video in # 535038798
>>535039268lmao.for the anons in the back don't let finance distract or detract from how jews are on suicide watch because if america fails to win the next war against russia or china they'll probably have to live under the same laws goyim do
>>535035166why is it not capitalism?
>>535039368>oil dump>keep yields downThat would or can only be temporary. Yes petroleum trade is a large magnitude of the Real Economy transactions, but the U.S. debt magnitude is far greater
>>535038009Thanks.Also looked it up out of curiosity... yields were 15% in the 80s. Boomers lived on literally-just-exist mode
>>535039499capitalizing random buzzwords makes propaganda clear
>>535039456read the thread (watch provided-itt YT videos 'The Money Deluge', '97% Owned')Debt-based global economic model>>535039429>collapse of the U.S.the U.S. Treasury and fedgov reaching Total Default brick wall in four years from now, likely won't ever occur because the global debt market will have imploded long prior
>>535039591>Brazil flag brainlet 2 pbtid 'muh propaganda' durrrrrRRRRthe post-1970s global economy is Financializedcapitalized deliberately to get Dumb Fucks Like (You) to get away from the pron/videogames and pay attention
>>535039123Not really. There are fluctuations, of course. Take US912810UR76, for example. It runs from February 15, 2026, to February 15, 2056, with an annual return of 4.750%. Currently, the market is offering you 95.61% of what you paid. This is likely due to the fact that the current auction yielded 5%, making it the better investment. Had the current auction ended at 4.5%, you would probably receive more than 100%.
>>535039608what happens when the global debt market falls?
>>535039061I see the value of a gold standard but we’re way too far gone. Much of the modern service based economy is finance, insurance and real estate, which is to say largely bullshit and non-productive in any real sense. The whole house of cards is predicated on fiat and perpetual growth models, both of which are pretty sketchy. I have no answers.
>>535039687to have literally mentioned porn and videogames out of nowhere and not have typed the word out could not have been made up. try another llm moshe
>>535035747>so what's the big deal now?Pay interest on a large amout of loans you took when it was cheap. Have to borrow more now and with even higher interest rates. You now can drastically cut spending and face a fucking chimpout or go full weimar hyperinflation. And you will probably need to bail out Japan at some point because their debt situation is even worse.
>>535039773The answer is to let them all fall and return to what worked.
>>535039773Imagine living in a world with a gold standard. Lmao. Everything would be real. You can't hate them enough for what they've taken from us.
>>535039695>fallsBecause this entire post-1990s (started in 1980s) financialized system is based upon continual supply of debt instruments and debt note fiat currency, it also depends on the bonds (that are the debt) be continually bought.Debt issued, has to be sold (bought). When the demand for debt goes down, bond yield rates spike as per OPThat spiking in yield rates, means that assets are being transferred into other markets/forms (which investors/HNW holders perceive as either more secure, profitable or 'better risk')
>>535039788how's the weather in Haifa 3 pbtid """"""brazil flag""""" ?
>>535039348LOL, what a fuckin joke.
>>535039840bump, ruski znaio
>>535039862And that’s basically war on multiple fronts, internal and external, which was essentially my initial argument. I’m all for accelerating to get it over with but it won’t be pretty.
>>535039910basically, they are leaving the US, and the only assets remaining will be real estate
>>535039990Thats fine. Sometimes you have to clean your room.
>>535039608>Debt-based global economic modelthat's just post-Breton-Woods capitalism. I'm in a book club where we're reading Technofeudalism by Yannis Varoufakis where he is making much the same argument you are, and I'm not buying it from him either. I'm seeing quantitative changes but he is way overblowing qualitative ones, like saying the ruling class doesn't need workers or consumers now, uh, then who is driving all of those Waymos for us?
>>535039963anon, watch the two films (YouTube URLs) provided upthread^^^^>The Money Deluge>97% Owned
>>535039956literally try another llms. those propaganda posts with buzzwords and pics were useless. also your employers having post quotas to reach do not have to have their employims post trash either so do better for your own sake
>>535040054buy an ad lil moshe
>>535034859Republicans will celebrate if he gives amnesty to illegals. It's amazing how they celebrate everything he does even when it contradicts the interests of the party.
>>535035812This is because most Americans are invested in ETFs. So faggots like you pretend that just because State Street owns the underlying stocks, regular people don't benefit from the growth and dividends.
>>535040052>Bretton WoodsCorrect, the entire system today was founded in 1944 at that meeting.In 1971 a major change initiated to that system where the USD was officially by order of its own government no longer backed by metal, and the dollar officially became a fiat currency<---But was sustained during the next three decades by being a "petrodollar," i.e. most of the global trade in oil/petroleum was mandated in USD.Now in the post-2000s era many countries including the BRICS are seeking trade, transaction in commodities through their own local denominations.Debt globally is still almost entirely dominated and transacted in the USD denomination
>>535040135>Anonymous (ID: rGXS5BHG) """"""brazil flag'"""""" SIX POSTS BY THIS ID
>>535040052you made the mistake every working class individual probably does which is to underestimate private technological capabilities out of media owned and operated by those to have profited from mass lacks of knowledge over how far gone some infrastructures would have been from to have required homo sapiens operators at all. you lived in la la land so you made la la guesses on tech
>>535038125>Pulls numbers out of ass>Moves goalpostsThis is why women won't touch you by the way
>>535037811Wrong, America is littered with unoccupied, bank owned homes. There are brand new apartment buildings that are 80% unoccupied because they are shitty and grossly overpriced. The "housing shortage" is bullshit.
>>535033678this is antisemitic goy
>>535040239my jew in christ that's not how it works on the fourth channel. that you had an obviously jewish agenda to push had it be inevitable some anon would have called you out. next time don't try to distract how all finance either profited jews at the expense of goyim or would be destroyed to have done so
>>535040268>"housing shortage" is bullshitCorrect it's an investment gigabubbleUn-occupancy rate of U.S. residences is the highest everSee also picrel here >>535037618
>>535040350>8 pbtid """brazil flag""" state of Israel IP $#@mbot unintelligible GPT gibberish
>>535040268But they aren't on the market, and never will be, at a discounted price. See my post >>535038282
>>535040168ETFs make you quite vulnerable to their manipulation and, above all, expose you to every bubble. You can diversify just as well by choosing the companies whose shares you buy yourself. I've never understood why people buy ETFs.
do not let fedbots de escalate how the rich buy real estate no matter how much of what currency to have priced it to have kept the masses out of home ownership rather than to have preserved purchasing capability in the future. the rich buy homes to keep you out, not to keep money useful since the rich don't need cash at all
>>535040411checked
>>53503367830 years? Yeah that's a good deal.
>>535040406and if not?
>>535034211Trump has already gone over this
>>535033678>Discloseautism.tvNot a real job.
What loans can we generate to stop this collapse? Or can we just print the money again?
>>535040190>>535040739mea culpa
>>535040246well I bring up Waymo because it's usually brought up to make the opposite "we're no longer in capitalism" point, but then it turns out they require more workers than a simple taxi https://futurism.com/advanced-transport/waymo-remote-operators
>>535040751Well, if americans are having a hard time buying houses and paying rent just imagine how worse it is for immigrants.
>>535040023U.S. residential home prices and incomes since the 1990s
>>535040190my 401k has over $300k in it and continues to climb, I still have 15-20 work years left before retirementthat doesn't change the facts nor how I feel about the stock market, I literally don't give a fuck about your gay bullshit. let the market crash, oh no my 401k, idgaf
>>535033678Stock market is ATH. Nothing will happen.
>>535033678IT'S GONNA DO IT AGAIN
>>535040898Bragpost.
>>535040829It's a debt-based economic model anon.The only way to keep the system from imploding is to generate and issue more debt.<--Resulting in (You)r increasing further enslavement to central banks
>>535040898based
>>535040910>Stock marketDebt market is the foundation. Keep watching the 10-yr yield
>>535034267trump is a new york land developer with zero skin in israels spat with the persians trump has criticized every president for their actions in the middle easthe forcefully stopped a potential war with syria in 2017 when netanyahu planted chemical weapons on assadFaggot
>>535040951Uhhh but everyone is in debt already? Can they make an air tax and then give loans to cover that? Should they accept infants into college and then subsidize the loans to keep them enrolled? Just trying to help keep the system running
>>535040868you can't bring up classified examples for a reason. also please do not post those trash urls again
>>535038944It's not true, because if someone buys a house on credit and doesn't pay the interest and the credit sum, the house is taken away. The asset (house for instance) backs the credit, the credit backs the credit money.
>>535033916This, its been unending hell since then.
>>535040999Checked. But this economics BS doesn't make sense. I believe that economics is a meme science too.
>>535033743>Worth i--ACK!!
>>535037637"OINK OINK SQUEEEE DRUMPFALEMPT DERN DIDDLY DID NUFFIN WRONG OINK OINK SQUEEEE" miggers genuinely have to die.
>>535041016So, why did he allow himself to be lured into this trap?
>>535040872Well, they can fuck back off to where they came from, no? It's cheaper there anyway.
>>535036527
This thread is very important.
>>535041016what's with the fetish americans have to guess how or whether classified operations happened? why think the government wouldn't have straight up lied all the time precisely because none of those golems would have enforced anything to the contrary?>believe (((screen)))>behave according to information taken from (((screen)))you mutts can't all be golems
>>535041103>doesn't pay the interestSee ------------------------- >>535039268Whole system is debt-based(You) don't know what you're posting about or how the system is structured, how it works or what money is / where it comes from.Money *is* Debt.watch the two films ^^^^^ 'The Money Deluge' and '97% Owned'>buysBanks own the mortgages. See 2007(your house isn't 'yours' until the mortgage is totally paid off and even then you pay property tax)
>>535038571your day will come retarded fat kike slave migger.
>>535033743What’s the worst he can do to me?Crucify me?Been there done that.
>>535041094meet me halfway here, I had to insert like 6 mental commas in your post for it to make sense, you're saying the new economic system runs on undisclosed tech while keeping, on the surface, a false version of the old system running, which itself has been given a false appearance of incompetently transitioning to the new system, to reassure workers?
>>535041126>doesn't make senseYou're right it doesn't. That is intentional>"The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it."—John Kenneth GalbraithWatch the two films linked^^^^^>The Money Deluge>97% Owned
>>535040898based I feel the same way it's hard for some to believe but I'd really rather have functional society where young people actually have a chance vs a number in my retirement account. The thing is if the air comes out of this asset bubble my money will go further anyway
>>535033678>first timeApparently not. It's been up above 5% multiple times in the last few years. Collapse in two more weeks?
>>535041507history is gonna remember these people for what they are, vultures who fed on their own children for extra coin in their senior years
>>535037243>jeet has access to Google and sees it as a superpowerYeah, they have a $3 tax on every gallon, Sukdeep. You don't even know America enough to know how it's seen as the shittiest state in in-country for its libtard ways.
>>535041507>rather have functional societyUnfortunately the central banks dgaf about that
>>535041446no and no. your whole post was wrong and wasn't even a nice attempt at figuring out why tech would have been classified or nor for example. at any rate try not to have to have inserted mental commas or to have execuded any interferences to those effects on literal long sentences if at least so your brain could have gotten used to longer forms of parsings of text
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>>535041507>asset bubble(You) know, I've slowly come to the conclusion that's a lie. These "assets" aren't even assets, that's how deep the fraud goes. In a sane World, a 1970's stick home is a liability, not an asset. Most people don't actually have anything of true value.
>>535041311Lol democrats worship kikes and kikes vote majority democrat look it up faggot
>>535041173You believe men can become women. Nothing you have to say matters after that.
>>535041507it's literally impossible to give younger generations a chance without sacrificing subsequent ones since scarce resources and iq thresholds per population limit any outputs that could have bailed any generation out of poverty. you're living in the beginnings of the sacrifice part of that deal.
>>535041716>"assets" aren't even assetsAnon, the entire post-1980s system is debt based.All wealth today is generated from *speculative debt instruments*Look for example at Tesla: company that hasn't shown a profit in two decades yet is the 'most valued' stock market automobile company (even Elon himself acknowledges that the valuations are ludicrous)
Would a Global Lockdown for a crisis such as a plandemic do them good?
ok how am i getting fucked now
>>535040264Okay>Thousands/14,000,000+30 million is the highest unsourced estimate I ever remember reading.But you can go ahead and clap like a seal for all the thousands of criminal illegals, despicable migger
do non zoomers think zoomers think they've been "sacrificed"? zoomers know very well two or three subsequent generations of bodies still will have it way worse with no alternatives far more obviously than they did
>>535040951>The only way to keep the system from imploding is to generate and issue more debtInterest payments have already been going exponential. More debt doesn't sustain anything at this point. We're headed towards a default within like a five year horizon. I guarantee you they are already planning out the next rug pull to stabilize this situation. And I don't mean defaulting, as that would kill the global economy and their number one biggest cash cow: the US taxpayer. They'll do something like switch to CBDC while having everyone take a 20% haircut in the process to get the debt down by like 50%. That way they can get payments down to something more reasonable, take no losses themselves, and not kill their favorite golden goose.
>>535042025>their number one biggest cash cow: the US taxpayerlmao pull the other one
>>535041690are you worried that, if you write more clearly, it will be more obvious that you're not really saying much in those long sentences?
I am going to go play Diablo Hellfire expansion from back when it was owned by Davidsonvlle entertainment and Blizzard North had not bought them out to rebrand a Davidson and associates that didn't suck gay ass.This is highly antisemtic
>>535042361no. to have catered to audiences would have been a problem regardless of media to have done so in be they visual vis text or auditory for example. normativity is a drug and there is no such thing as clarity or non clarity but there are long sentences
>>535042025>defaultSee my post upthread.Global debt market will implode long prior to U.S. fedgov+Treasury reaching the total default brick wallEntire global system relies on worldwide 'confidence' in solvency of UST/USD denominationThat's it that's allthat is the infinitesimal thread tying it/us all togetherGolden goose died decades ago
>>535042361also kill yourself
