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>based entirely on one person supposedly finding golden plates that no one else ever saw because they conveniently vanished
>the writings are literally just an exact copy of the King James Bible's early 17th century speech and grammar
>the writings carry over all of the King James Bible's mistranslations and insertions, actually further bastardizes them in many cases
>Zion is in Utah now
>you literally become a god/a new Jesus and can create your own worlds and redeem them in the afterlife
This is only just barely scratching the surface of everything wrong with it. You can see how crazy all of this is and yet it somehow grew into an actual religion with millions of followers. How did this even happen? How could so many people hear this story and not question it?
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>>535063758
The same can be asked about all abrahamic religions and the answer is: most humans are barely sentient herd animals. A single schizo with charisma can start a chain reaction of deception that powers a self-sustaining cult.
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>>535063758
There's also zero documents of proof like birth records at all that Joseph smith ever existed
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>>535063909
>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"
- John 8:58-59
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>>535063758
yeah the whole thing is built on the grossest heresy

https://www.mrm.org/king-follett-discourse
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret."

" I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and will take away and do away the vail, so that you may see..... he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did"

" To inherit the same power, the same glory, and the same exaltation, until you arrive at the station of a God and ascend the throne of eternal power, the same as those who have gone before"

https://www.lds-mormon.com/gbh-shtml/
“God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!………..It is the first principle of the gospel to know for a certainty the character of God……..yea, that God himself, the father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did; and I will show it from the Bible….” (from Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith and History of the Church, 6:302-17)


“He [God] is our Father–the Father of our spirits, and was once a man in mortal flesh as we are, and is now an exalted being. It appears ridiculous to the world, under their darkened and erroneous traditions, that God has once been a finite being;” (Brigham Young in the Journal of Discourses, v. 7, p. 333)


False prophecies

https://mrm.org/civil-war
https://mrm.org/rocky-mountain-prophecy
https://mrm.org/white-horse-prophecy
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>>535063758
How did people ever take desert towelhead fairy tales seriously?
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>>535064236
>desert religion
god created a garden at the time of creation, not a desert.
and if the religion appealed to middle eastern sensibilities, how come they reject it, while europeans embrace it
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>>535063758
If the covid scamdemic hasn't taught you about the stupidity and gullibility of humans, I can't help you.
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>>535063976
>>535064296
This is the same anon
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>>535064296
Abrahamic religions all came from desert regions retard. The "Garden of Eden" is supposed to be in a specific area of Mesopotamia which is lush and full of vegetation. Why do you think only the Middle East is included in Bible stories and not Europe or any other places humans lived? Why did all the Biblically important shit happen there and God focus all his efforts there? The first Christians were Middle Eastern and the only reason it isn't popular over there anymore is because Christians were persecuted and killed/chased out
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>>535064669
So is this. Quite the rabbit hole.
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>>535064669
bearing false witness as always

>"jews are god's chosen people"
- "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your seed,” meaning One, who is Christ."
- Galatians 3:16

>"you worship the same judeo-christian god"
- "Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also."
- 1 John 2:23

>"then what god do jews worship?"
- "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it."
- John 8:44

- "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."
- Revelation 3:9

>"c'mon man, that was just those jews that killed jesus, not all jews for all time"
- "And all the people answered and said, “His blood be on us and on our children.”"
- Matthew 27:25

>"bless israel!"
israel is the church, not a blaspheming republic
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s
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>>535063909
that's myopic bullcrap
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>>535065116
Tell it to yourself.
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>>535064987
So is this
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>>535065143
It ain't. If you're abrahamicuck, you have to believe that the first cause of the universe made a deal with some proto jew with his own FORESKIN.
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>>535065337
>why was circumcision implemented
several reasons

for one, it was to remind them not to be degenerates (fags, race mixers, etc)
>"If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell."
- Matthew 5:29-30

but mostly, it was a sacrifice. an acknowledgement of god's authority
since he is the creator of the world, he can even order abraham to take away the life of his firstborn son, isaac
>"All that open the womb are Mine, and every male firstborn among your livestock, whether ox or sheep. But the firstborn of a donkey you shall redeem with a lamb. And if you will not redeem him, then you shall break his neck. All the firstborn of your sons you shall redeem. And none shall appear before Me empty-handed."
- Exodus 34:19-20
let alone a circumcision

but that was in accordance to the old law
with animal sacrifices at the temple, etc
god established a new covenant, through the death and resurrection of jesus, the messiah
a sacrifice of the firstborn son of god
>"Abraham looked around and saw a ram caught in a bush by its horns. He went and got it and offered it as a burnt offering instead of his son."
- Genesis 22:13
>"The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ."
- Galatians 3:16

so now we no longer have to keep circumcision physically, but mentally
>"Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation."
- Galatians 6:15
>"Circumcise your hearts, therefore, and do not be stiff-necked any longer."
- Deuteronomy 10:16
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>>535063758
Mormonism apparently functions like a Mafia where you can rise high in a career of your choice through connections.
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>>535065269
CI truly is late stage abrahamoid mental illness.
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>little blue book

Let us not forget that Joseph Smith was a Freemason con artist, and that he modeled the Mormon Church using Masonry. To this day, almost all prominent Mormon men are also Freemasons.
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>>535065434
How much huge cock have you worshipped lately, Tsani?
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>>535063758
>be settler
>invent a religion
>settled region now automatically belongs to your religion
>???
>profit, prophet
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>>535065337
Being an uncircumcised white male in America is one of my greatest joys. I dont know how I escaped the knife and have never asked.
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The book of Mormon can never be taken seriously until it has been divorced from the Mormon church. It is a stolen book in their hands. It was written not in 1828, but compiled in 400. By a man, a historian and a prophet, named Mormon. It foretells of a group like the LDS and the Nazi movement it united with and the Church of Satan that would arise within and the insurgencies and the yes, conspiracies with which they would infect the whole nation. They would stir up wars, even civil wars and go against the rest; of the world (gentile); they would deprive the widow and of her home and the needy of their support;, even taking advantage of the poor and the fatherless; they would take up the cause of the Mafia and do one better, eventually uniting with. Babylon and its future king. In whole they would represent pride, idolatry and gross injustice in their conduct as judges over "Israel."
Of all the religious groups they will suffer first and most in God's wrath and judgement
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>>535063975
Nigga, I have a land treaty SIGNED BY HIM. My family kicked those faggots out of Nauvoo, which is why they went to Utah in the first place.
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>>535063758
People are stupid. It's an easy answer, but the easy answer is very often the true answer.

I ask myself the same with Roman Catholicism, how can you have an open Bible for 500 years where the words of Christ are so clearly in front of everyone and still have a billion people going directly against it because a Roman institution claims to be the authority over the word?
>It's the church that Christ built
it isn't. It is the pagan Roman Empire that used the Gospel for their own power grip. Read the Scriptures. His ekklesia is built on the confession that Jesus is the Christ, the son of the living God. There is no other head of the church other than Jesus Christ himself.
>Catholicism is older than the Bible
No, it isn't.
>our traditions
what did Jesus say about putting man-made traditions over the Scriptures?
>pope is the holy father
blasphemy in plain sight. What if I tell you that Jesus IS the Father himself in the flesh? Revelation 1:8, John 14:9, Colossians 2:9, Catholics would say no, he is NOT the Father, he is "just the son". But a pope is "holy father" yes?
Matthew 23:9
why is this so complicated for people?
They are just stupid. Or they just want to have a splendid organization that tells them what to do. They want to feel like they "own God". They "have him" in their pocket.
>"I consumed your literal flesh, Lord, as you instructed."
It's not about consuming his "literal flesh", what does that have to do with the Holy Spirit of truth? This is the most pagan most retarded most superstitious thing that was ever made into a world religion.
>it's old
soo? old means it's true?
You know what is even older? the preserved word that we have in the Bible, the Gospel that Christians preached since the first century AD.
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>>535065788
Good he or Heber C Kimball start the masonic thing? WW Phelps was the grand Poobah of the Masons temple ritual. Young and pals set about rewriting the churches history immediately upon arriving at Salt Lake, especially with early history twenty years prior, but including Illinois period where a lodge was built in Nauvoo. Regardless, if Smith Jr had anything to do with Freemasonry it was needed as his role was later to turn the movement utterly over to Satan as with the rest of the earthly kingdoms then he began to be lifted up in pride and adoration.
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>>535066302
>christian nationalism
An oxymoron, but nice try, Tsani.
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>>535063758
It was an offshoot of Freemasonry.
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>>535065434
Please circumcise your heart with a razor blade, you crustycock
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>>535063909
Fpbp. If 2016 to now (and especially 20-22) didn't make it unequivocally crystal clear that probably 80 if not 90% of all people on the planet are flat out NPC sheeple, then I've got some bad news for you.
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>>535068218
Foreigners doing well in your nation is literally a curse from god
>"The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. They will lend to you, but you will not lend to them. They will be the head, but you will be the tail. All these curses will come on you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the Lord your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you."
- Deuteronomy 28:43-45
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>>535064669
>Abraham's promise applies to Isreal
How's the weather in tel aviv?

>>535063909
>abrahamic
How's the weather in New Delhi?
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>>535065084
>bearing false witness as alway
Nope it's you
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>>535065434
Hey Tsani, is circumcision objectively wrong?
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>>535069479
man, its you again with this garbage. you're obsessed and still dont know what you're talking about. mindbroken and unreasonable. get help
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>>535069518
>boohoo
Kek
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>>535069601
its just sad
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>>535068586
>Deuteronomy 28:43-45
warns of curses resulting from disobedience to God, predicting that foreigners residing in Israel will rise above them, becoming lenders and leaders ("head"), while native Israelites sink into debt and powerlessness ("tail") as a consequence of failing to keep God's commandments

Kek, Tsani using OT nonsense for a time and people that no longer exist
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>>535066185
Show it. There is zero proof.
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>>535069717
Yeah you are
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There's nothing more inherently nonsensical in the Book of Mormon than in the Bible or the Qu'ran. Actually if anything the Book of Mormon is pretty tame compared to those two. No making the sun stop, no splitting the moon in two. The only difference is time and the level of cultural acceptance that has built up over time.
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>>535069807
ok pal, you just keep asking your silly question and refusing to actually discuss it. sad.
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>>535069832
I like the Book of Mormon better because it says that niggers are from a different planet and need to go back there
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>>535069899
>and refusing to actually discuss it
What would you like to discuss duder? Was I asking you about it though? No
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>>535063758
The answer is literally polygamy in an age where the conventional marrying age of a woman was around 15
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>>535069945
lol
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>>535069974
Nothing? Alright, have a good day then.
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>>535063758
The LDS religion was just one of many new wave revival cults around the time of the 1800s. I think why it gained more traction than others because it appealed to two sensibilities: Sex and self-exaltation of the self (i.e Becoming a god). You get your own wife, fuck the shit out of her and pump out kids, and you get on tract to godhood all at the same time? It's a pretty cushy deal.
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>>535069832
Uhh yes the Book of Mormon is lacking ecclesiastical authority and apostolic succession, something I would never understand a dumbfuck protestant Anglo trash to understand.
Your king forfeit his relation to the Church and took all his dirty subjects (you) with him over 500yrs ago

Learn some history or fuck right off
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>>535063909
can you stop with your bug minded
>we're all just a clump of cells
gay ass nihilism, you kraut retard.
Also Abraham was just the covenant, it started with Noah technically.
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>>535070018
you're such an obvious shill the way you evade discussing your own points
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>>535069906
I don't think that's accurate.

Here's is a cartoon to help
https://youtu.be/Pgw-C_DTVo8?si=0YAVy7_ZLyyxDaBp



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