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A peer-reviewed paper published last year in the journal Bioethics by two professors at Western Michigan University School of Medicine argues that it is "morally obligatory" to genetically engineer ticks to spread alpha-gal syndrome, a permanent condition that makes you violently allergic to red meat.

The paper is called "Beneficial Bloodsucking."

Their argument: if eating meat is morally wrong, then preventing the spread of a disease that forces people to stop eating meat is also morally wrong. Scientists should gene-edit lone star ticks to enhance their ability to carry alpha-gal syndrome and expand their range into urban environments to infect more people.

They call this a "moral bioenhancer." They frame releasing genetically modified disease-carrying ticks as a "vaccination" that only "infringes" on your bodily autonomy rather than "violating" it. The distinction, apparently, is that a tick bit you instead of a government official holding you down.

Alpha-gal syndrome is not mild. The CDC estimates up to 450,000 Americans are already affected. Cases have surged 100-fold in the last decade. Symptoms include anaphylaxis. There is no cure.

https://philpapers.org/archive/CRUBBS
https://x.com/TFTC21/status/2054584735012401339
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>>535072638
Don’t you have Pakis to worry about?
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>>535072784
>stop noticing things goyim
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>>535072638
> "moral bioenhancer."
These two professors should 100% be killed. Not a fed, this is beyond some Luigi bullshit. These two people are enemies of humanity and should be burnt alive
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>>535072638
Human reliance on livestock is unsustainable in the long-term. While what scientists are doing with ticks / alpha-gal syndrome might be morally grey, it is coming from a place of genuine concern for the survival of our species. The WEF wasn't telling people, "You will eat the bugs!" just to be a dick.
https://www.weforum.org/stories/2022/02/how-insects-positively-impact-climate-change/
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death to america
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As a vegan I think we should be educating people on the benefit of opossums and discouraging them from getting cats or dogs that scare them off. Also I used to want people to get alpha-gal syndrome before I found it doesn't make them sick it just kills them before they even get diagnosed.
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>>535073070
>Human reliance on livestock is unsustainable in the long-term.
No it isnt
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>>535072638
>if eating meat is morally wrong
But it isn't.
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>>535072638
>by two professors


So why have we done nothing to them?
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>>535073387
Probably because WMU is party school no one takes seriously
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>>535073248
Assuming the global population keeps increasing, yes it is.
>The investors highlight three trends set to reshape the way we eat in the coming years. The first is the livestock sector’s unsustainable impact on the environment. The sector is a disproportionate user of land and water, and is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than the transport sector. It is also a major contributor to deforestation due to the soya required to produce animal feed – over 90% of Amazon deforestation has been attributed to the livestock sector. As the world transitions to a low-carbon economy, intensive farming is becoming a high-risk sector for investors.
https://www.weforum.org/stories/2016/09/were-addicted-to-meat-and-its-destroying-the-planet/
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A tick just flew over my house
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>>535072908
>>535072638
Arrested and prosecuted for development of biological weapon.
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>>535073686
Only humans (Western Europeans) should get to eat meat, the animals can eat soislop
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One of the biggest problems of our civilization is the rise of a class of professional bureaucrats. In universities, corporations, and governments, these people are permanently secure, paid ever increasing salaries by banks which generate infinite fake money, and have control over every detail of our lives. This is true in every technological society from America to North Korea. We can see some of the drastic, society ending consequences of some of the decisions made by these bureaucrats. The most important thing to them is control.
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>>535073686
Fuck you
You subhuman animals will never win.
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>>535072638
>Crutchfield

This is the same piece of shit that thinks it's morally obligatory to drug the water supply secretly to make people like immigrants more.

I knew it was him before I looked at the links.
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Fuck these cunts, who gave them a grant? And what peer reviewer accepted this? You have to reject a majority of submissions and this is what you decided to accept?
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>>535073686
>the livestock sector’s unsustainable impact on the environment.
That's not a real thing.
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>>535073070
Nonsense. Livestock is sustainable as evidenced by the fact that we are (in fact) sustaining it. What needs to be addressed from a policy perspective is mass migration and the Western-subsidized population explosion in Africa.
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>>535073918
>You subhuman animals will never win.
But you did win, tranny.
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>>535074083
This is a bot response.
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>>535072638
What protein is causing the reaction? Surely it wont also cause it it plants too. Imagine companies making a profit off of this to sell nutrients without the problem of the syndrome.
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Honestly? If this is what it takes to civilize meet eaters then so be it
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>>535072638
>Fischer
>Bramble
>Schwitzgebel
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>>535072638
Sounds like they need a funding cut
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>>535073686
But it isn't even in africa facing drop in childbirths
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>>535072638
I agree. It's more important to stop people from eating pork though
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>>535074194
>civilize meet eaters

What does that even mean?
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>>535074071
>>535074072
Do you guys really not know, at all? We've depleted a ton of the soil here and we have already wagered the future against a possibly un-acquirable quantity of fertilizer needed

When push comes to shove that fertilizer cannot and will not be spent on grazing land which is drastically calorically inefficient for humans compared to beans and shit.

I hate to be the one to break this to you but you will see beef increase 10x in price in your life.
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>>535074358
Africa isn't overpopulated :^)
Only places inhabited by whites can be considered overpopulated, because even a single white is too many
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>>535074511
>drastically calorically inefficient for humans compared to beans and shit
It's like you don't know anything at all. There is no greater caloric boon than a cow fed on grass. Even better, it's completely natural and therefore obviously sustainable forever and ever.
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>>535074511
>>535074810
>There is no greater caloric boon than a cow fed on grass
Except crickets, but you can eat those.
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>>535073852
I resonate with this.
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>>535072908
If I ever find myself with alpha-gal syndrome, I will start killing people. Good luck, professors!!!
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>>535072908
You are not wrong.
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>>535074723
Trying too hard rajesh, start manning the cash register
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In the actual real world right now, ticks are being air dropped across the country.

We simply have to track down who is doing it.
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>>535074511
>grazing land which is drastically calorically inefficient for humans
Grass/clover fed beef is one of the most efficient solar energy->human edible calories conversion methods on the planet you fucking retard.
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>>535073070
This is obvious bullshit. Livestock is used to produce nutrition from marginal land. Husbandry is older than writing. It's older than bread.
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>>535073922
>>Crutchfield
this man is a fucking maniac. BA and PhD in philosophy. reminds me of those talmud jews who study the torah all life and then dictate what people should do
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>>535075370
Lunatics
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Also, can't load your philpapers link. Please fix.
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>>535076032
>Also, can't load your philpapers link. Please fix.
works on my machine
but i am gonna save you the time. The arguemnet is that since eating meat is morally bad and getting people to not eat meat improves overall morality then researchers should stop researching a way to eradicate alpha-gal syndrome
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>>535072908
>These two people are enemies of humanity
yep, these guys are absolute moral cunts, it doesn't get any worse, basically the RL version of mythological Mengele (pbuh).
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>>535076032
Try archive.org

https://web.archive.org/web/20260430021024/https://philpapers.org/archive/CRUBBS.pdf
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>>535072638
It's an ethics paper retard.
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>>535076419
Thank you.

I have definitely noticed more ticks around. Just a matter of time before I get alpha-gal. And I like beef. So, yeah, glowies, idc, I WILL be killing people if I ever get this syndrome. Better start rounding up those modified ticks!
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>>535074387
eating meat is essential for brain health
what they mean by civilize is for you to be a slave with lowered intelligence and aggressiveness
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>>535072638
Kill all jews and pedos.
This shit will not stop untill we do.
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>>535073070
>>535073686
Never mind that this syndrome has been proven to extend beyond red meat in many cases, to the point people can only eat a small amount of things.
But population decline is baked in. No virus needed, just stop feeding the niggers and importing the indians
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>>535072638
when science mixes with morals (and jews funding it), it never ends good
also this is planning terrorist attack basically
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>>535074124
kys migger.
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>>535076793
The fact the owner does nothing about the bots makes him part of the problem.
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>>535072638
Against the moral standing of animals already made vegans irrelevant.

If your ethics are not anthropocentric, they are not ethics, and you are a mentally ill PARASITE. End of fucking story.
THERE IS NO NON-RELIGIOUS MORAL JUSTIFICATION FOR ANIMAL RIGHTS OVER ANTHROPOCENTRIC ANIMAL PRIVILEGES - PROTECTIONS THAT PRIMARILY SERVE HUMAN WELL BEING BY PROXY

>>535073070
>Uses anything humans do as a proxy for infinite population growth
We will not starve for your ponzi scheme economy.

The human species survival is threatened more by infinite population growth than infinite growths inability to depend on livestock. More people, more waste, more pollution, more heavy metals and fossil fuels
>BUT CARBON?
Livestock are a drop in the bucket
>BUT CROPS ARE GROWN FOR-
That’s a problem with america’s jewish system. Cows eat grass. Feed them grass. And stop importing shitskins so you don’t run out. That is fucking it.

Alpha-gal? We’ll start snapping chicken necks even more often.

Vegans are anti-human parasites that exclusively target white people to weaken and depopulate them.
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>>535076780
And what happens if society collapses and there nothing but meat to eat ?
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>>535076979
there is nearly always something to eat
long pig is last resort
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>>535077089
but then there's the risk of kuru and prion disease
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>>535077089
It does specify "red meat", so I guess white meat must be fine.
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>>535076615
>greek flag
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>>535073686
that's vegan disinfo.
Large parts of the world cannot be used for agriculture- but they can for animal husbandry and grazing ruminants. Moreover, massive agriculture is far worse for the environment. Most stats you heard about cows (eg water consumption) have been ludicrously inflated.

You can have sustainable meat. If you're into judeo-christian "I love animals" then know that we can also have ethical cattle breeding. But big globohomo jew would rather you subsist on cockroaches and sugar.



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