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Personally I believe there's advanced nano technology in the vaxx vials which build nanostructures inside the human body to control your mind and allow you to be traced with bluetooth.
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>>535075998
The vaccine makes you gay. I took the vaccine and now I can’t stop sucking on penises
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>>535075998
>>535076088
If you anti-vaxx retards had your way, kids would still be living in fear of polio
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>>535075998
>taking the Trump vaccine

Explain yourself.
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>>535076139
No vaccine is safe, they all contain alien nano tech.
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>>535075998
>nano technology in the vaxx vials which build nanostructures inside the human body to control\
yeah sure... then you should be really concerned about the SV-40 virus and the prions in it
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>>535075998
If the Fascists ordered me to take a vaccine, I would. If Jews do it, I won't.
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>>535076292
Both sides of the spectrum are controlled by the reptilians and they want you vaxxed/tagged like the cattle they view you as.
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Anti vaxx just have low self esteem. They can't perceive that the human race can work together to accomplish good things that help all of humanity. I can see why they think that way; especially in the news, it seems like humanity only teams up to do bad.

I think this is the core of the issue. There's also ignorance on the subject, low literacy rates, distrust in the unknown, fear of medical stuff, fear of needles. But the core is that anti vaxx truly does not believe the human race can solve these problems.
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>>535076139
They would love it, actually. New life, youth, etc destroyed by diseases that target the young that can end a new life or effect the rest of their life. Makes them feel superior to children.
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>>535077152
>fear of needles
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Because you're a faggot
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>>535075998
if you need substances injected to you to keep you alive, maybe you should not be alive?
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>>535077516
Yes it's a well known fear. Even the super rich including Bill Clinton fell for a notorious scammer who claimed to solve the needle issue with a fake device. The company she created even led to an employee taking his own life. This is the depth of needle fear.
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>>535075998
COVID & the VAX was a test to see if you were a human and can use common sense that there is no way in hell you would get a shot for a flu with 99.9% survival rate. In addition who actually believes a magical "vax" was created in a few days for a virus.

So if you got the VAX, you failed. You are not a human and dumb animal that can be easily led and intimated while being blind to the obvious facts.
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>>535075998
>Personally I believe there's advanced nano technology in the vaxx vials which build nanostructures inside the human body to control your mind and allow you to be traced with bluetooth.
that's so 2019...
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>>535078153
Vaccine reduces the amount of people who contract the virus. Survival rate implies one already contracted the virus. You are an ignorant bug chaser.
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>>535078037
yeah the people who didn't want to inject shots with no long term safety data and only approved for use because of emergency use authorization not real trials had nothing to do with fear of needles
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>>535078390
Found the animal!
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>>535075998
Yes, yes go on, tell me more about these...*checks notes*..."nanostructures"?
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>>535075998
Vaccines originally meant dead or crippled versions of a virus so your body could easily learn how to combat it, these days people roll it out in such a fundamentally different way than how we normally create and administer. What the hell was wrong with just letting the body eat a dying or dead virus?
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>>535077152
The car is that is impossible to make a safer effective vaccine in six months for a novel coronavirus.

This is proving true by all the deadly side effects and the extreme low efficacy, even compared by flu shot standards.
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>>535078932
>535078932
Voice to text bullshit.

The fact is*
Safe and effective (tm)
Proven
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>>535078553
Yeah and I found the bug chaser. Go deep throat a doorknob on a public restroom to give your immune system a new challenge and get out of my face
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The people pushing vaxxes are the same people calling me a useless eater who’s killing the planet.
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>>535078485
You are wrong about what's in the needle though. You're using the vaccine as your excuse as to what you're really afraid of: the needle. If vaccines were in pill form, they wouldn't be nearly as scary for you.
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The mRNA technology is simply not a vaccine, they even had to change the dictionary definition of a vaccine to include it.

Also the death rate was just too low, if it was actually high and I saw people dying in the streets, or people in my family dying with it, I might have got it. But literally I know 0 people that died from it. I know 1 person who died WITH it, but she had stage 4 cancer.

Same with this Hantavirus, if I start seeing people actually die, sure I'll get the vaccine. I'm not going to be the first in line though, I'll wait and monitor the situation. I am rational.
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>>535078932
It's not impossible; you just don't have faith in what humanity can accomplish.
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>>535075998
Im pure blooded Ashkenazi jew why would ruin my blood with goyslop vax ? Are you crazy ?
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>>535075998
I just didn't take it, heh.
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>>535081455
In this case your humanity achieved a vaccine that doesn't prevent the disease even with 3 or more doses. Safe to say you got effecticely scammed.
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>>535076139
>In the United States, the 1952 polio epidemic was the worst outbreak in the nation's history, and is credited with heightening parents’ fears of the disease and focusing public awareness on the need for a vaccine.[24] Of the 57,628 cases reported that year, 3,145 died and 21,269 were left with mild to disabling paralysis.[24][25]
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_polio#Epidemics
>In April 1955, soon after mass polio vaccination began in the US, the Surgeon General began to receive reports of patients who contracted paralytic polio about a week after being vaccinated with Salk polio vaccine from the Cutter pharmaceutical company, with the paralysis limited to the limb the vaccine was injected into. The Cutter vaccine had been used in vaccinating 200,000 children in the western and midwestern United States.[76] Later investigations showed that the Cutter vaccine had caused 40,000 cases of polio, killing 10.[76] In response the Surgeon General pulled all polio vaccines made by Cutter Laboratories from the market, but not before 250 cases of paralytic illness had occurred. Wyeth polio vaccine was also reported to have paralyzed and killed several children. It was soon discovered that some lots of Salk polio vaccine made by Cutter and Wyeth had not been properly inactivated, allowing live poliovirus into more than 100,000 doses of vaccine. In May 1955, the National Institutes of Health and Public Health Services established a Technical Committee on Poliomyelitis Vaccine to test and review all polio vaccine lots and advise the Public Health Service as to which lots should be released for public use. These incidents reduced public confidence in polio vaccine, leading to a drop in vaccination rates.[77]
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine#1950%E2%80%931955
Polio vaccines caused more polio than polio before everyone stopped taking them.
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>>535081455
How can you know potential long-term effects of a novel medical treatment after 6 months? Anyways, the vax obviously didn't work for what it was developed and tested for, so not really a testament to human ingenuity.
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>>535081624
That's forbidden knowledge, you aren't allowed to think and come to your own conclusions, and research that data. Don't you know that's illegal? Remember to drink your vegetable oil and sweeteners.
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>>535081447
why would you get the vaccine after the virus has already spread though the population? You get the vaccine BEFORE that point. The more people who contract the virus, the less effective the vaccine is.
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>>535075998
I am vaccine indifferent.
I got vaccinated because my parents really wanted me to and kept asking me for it. I probably wouldn't have done it otherwise. I have nothing against people who didn't get the vaxx or who got it. Never seen a compelling argument as to why the vaxx might be bad. Only schizo theories like yours, OP.
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>>535075998
at first?
because i read the documentation of the gene therapies
now?
because people told me to
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>>535081620
So you agree they did create the vaccine then. That was my point.
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>>535081882
>Never seen a compelling argument as to why the vaxx might be bad.
It was bad because it didn't work for what it was developed and tested for, which was preventing infection and transmission. Nothing good about taking an expensive experimental medical treatment that doesn't work for it's intended purpose.
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>>535081737
It was created though~ good job humanity
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>>535081966
Well yeah, humanity creates a lot of garbage that doesn't work properly, that's certainly true.
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>>535078153
Vaxxies are HELLBOUND!!!!
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>>535081916
Debatable. Maybe it was created by vampires, reptiles or aliens. You have no way of knowing.
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>>535075998
I'm not opposed to vaccines. It's just a fact that if they are truly safe and effective, then the pharma companies have no need for legal immunities.
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>>535082123
Nonsense. There's more evidence that the vaccine was created than there is the existence of non human entities
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>>535078648
finding a way of reliably crippling it without rendering it useless for immune uptake
finding a reliable storage and delivery method
timeline less than a year with bux behind it
vs
snip strand of code from pathogen
paste into a t-cell production code
pour into standard hiv blank
done
timeline couple of months at any lab weeks if big bux

the failure states aren't equal though
if the vaccine fails at worst the material doesn't do anything
if one of these gene therapy 'vaccines' fail the worst that happens is the target code degrades into something close enough to healthy tissue to latch on and now your own body is building and circulating lil suicide bombers that target your own tissues
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>>535082241
There is no evidence that the vaccine prevented covid either
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>>535082221
Not even surgery has a 100% success rate. There's even a stat to show why you exist right now. 13% of all pregnancy automatically leads to natural abortion; should we be removing legal immunities from all obgyn's?
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>>535081821
It's irrelevant if a virus pathogen has spread through a population. What matters is taking it before HE, himself, the individual contracts the pathogen. It is rational to observe the situation and make an informed decision about whether or not the benefits outweigh the risks. The benefits may very well not outweigh the risk whatsoever
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>>535082367
Yes>>535082367
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>>535082360
Read my posts very carefully. I said the vaccine was indeed created, the effectiveness of it I did not speak on.

Anyway, the effectiveness of it relies on variables outside of the vaccine creator's control. Water is 0% effective on keeping one hydrated if one doesn't drink it
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>>535082544
It's easier for you to never take medicine, never go to a hospital and never talk to a doctor than it would be for you to end legal immunities in the Healthcare field. Why not just do that? Literally the easiest choice
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>>535075998
Because i have guns. Don't pull out that thing again, ever, kike.
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>>535082492
What about the people that can't take the vaccine before they contract the pathogen? They're just fucked, I guess
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>>535082751
Needle phobia sufferer
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>>535082870
We are going to kill all of you, disgusting kikes.
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>>535082926
Dude I'm anti Jew
At least we know you'll never touch heroin
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/x/ is down the hall to the left
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>>535082326
Omg you have all the answers; perhaps create the real vaccine, genius
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I've read an argument from modern day religious people... that if you refuse modern day medical care and just rely on your own immune system it is deeply immoral and essentially counts as suicide?
How true is this
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>>535075998
I have an inborn immune system that was trained for millions of years, not rushed in some labs of notoriously greedy and ruthless Big Pharma. I see no reason to have unnecessary experiments done with my body. Simple as.
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>>535082809
They're free to make their own informed decisions.
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>>535082809
Vaccines don't work retroactively, tardbro.
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>>535083209
they have obviously been compromised by satanic communists
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>>535083209
It should be considered a sin to not have faith in God and His creation (within reason) these religious idiots will pray for the souls of pedophiles and murderers but have zero faith and love for humans that actually live good lives and help other people. What belief in a Male God will do to the human mind lol
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>>535083311
Your logic would make sense if you didn't exist amongst 10 billion other people with immune systems that vary
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>>535083316
There are no decisions for them to make. It's almost like we're all in this together or something
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>>535083513
That's why immune systems don't work and humanity went extinct before the big pharma came around
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>>535083561
You have to take your anti anxiety meds or else everyone sitting in the same park as you will have anxiety.
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All it takes is a Taytay or Kardashian or influencer to control minds. It isn't hard at all. It most certainly doesn't take advanced technology. A beat or a trend and the zombies animate.
Vax spike protein makes it appear a virus has infected the meat. Nothing eats something when infection is detected. It's a protection from being consumed. By whom?
He said messages received indicate all planets but Earth have conquered outer space... Outer space people consider those on Earth the lowest form of universal existence.'
It's theory that perhaps delicate delicious humans that you don't even have to skin to eat could appear unpalatable due to virus. How do you get the entire world to hurry up and get spike protection? COVID shutdown vax globally.
Average humans will never wise up. You believe the next election that a regular polyester mannequin talking into a can will suffice. What you better wrap your head around is shit is coming up fast and politician in a box is going to get you a world of hurt. There are things coming that will see you needing much more than a cackling word salad double speak leader. You are about to pay a toll for the human condition as you have let it devolve to. You better hope you aren't the remaining that are palatable.
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>>535083334
Yes thats why (I guess some of us, definitely not you lol) have foresight and act before they contract the virus by taking the vaccine.
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>>535083824
Good for you, how many did you take? 4? You're super duper boosted double plex extreme right?
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>>535083597
Yes, people with weak immune systems did die in the past but that was due to ignorance; this shit now is due to apathy and misanthropy spreading much like a virus itself amongst the population.
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>>535083714
Not comparable at all. If someone can't take a vaccine, then there is no choice for them to make. Well, other than avoiding humanity and keeping their space clean. But your ilk got mad when people stayed inside or wore masks or washed their hands. You wanted everyone doing exactly what you were doing: sneezing everywhere, licking toliet seats. Anti vaxx truly is a death cult and you're salty that no every single human is on board with it
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>>535084200
What is my ilk faggot? If people wanted to avoid others that's fine by me. The masks hardly worked, and in fact probably increased infections because it gave people a false sense of security.

Avoiding crazy people is generally wise.
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>>535075998
im only anti vaxx when it comes to vaccines that havent had decades of testing already
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>>535083949
Ooooh I'm such a bad guy because I got vaccinated to not only protect myself but those I love with vulnerable immune systems who couldn't take the vaccine. I'm a hero actually, when you put it that way.
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>>535083824
The meme-covid vax didn't prevent infection though.
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>>535084304
Anti vaxx is your ilk, the entire topic of the thread, remember, peabrain?
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at about about 0.3 mL (or 300 microliters) per injection times 6 billion doses that's 1.8 million liters of mrna fluid.
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with six years of university science education and a decade of de-programming, I am qualified to read and understand virus and vaccine published papers. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the fields of virology and vaccine development are 100% false and a deranged cult of brainwashing fully controlled by the Rockefeller Foundation. Their only purpose is to create new illnesses, NOT cure anything. Period.
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>>535084389
I wouldn't associate myself with subhumans like that, stop hanging around people with AIDS. The mRNA 'vaccine' (lol) didn't even stop transmission so your line of logic doesn't even work.

Your best bet in that situation would have been to simply avoid them, but I suspect you don't even know people like that.

>>535084472
You made a false claim, I'm not against people isolating themselves or washing their hands.
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>>535084389
The vaccine DID NOT WORK AT ALL
they ran news stories about it on normal non-dissident media before they started injecting the idiots. they called them "breakthrough infections"
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I think humanity and earth are better off if people with weak immune systems die..
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>>535075998
I'm pro vaccines, but only the ones that work. COVID vaccine didn't, despite their efforts to lie and say it did, or ever was.
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>>535075998
>flu comes
>take the flu vaccine
>covid comes
>take the covid vaccine
>hanta virus comes
>take the hanta virus vaccine
>etc, etc, etc
>>dafuq timmy gawn do sheet
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>>535075998
>It's safe and effective
So if something goes wrong, I can sue you?
>No, if something goes wrong, we are immune to consequences. Even if we have this dose with cyanide, immune to liability.
Right.

That's the biggest part for me. If the vax is so important we must all get it, it's not that much of an ask that the person who injects it into my arm is consenting to a death pact. If I die, they're executed too.

Once you look at the rest of the bullshit surrounding it, I just lost all belief in anything they said. Pre-hoaxvid, there were plenty of studies that proved clot in masks have NEGATIVE efficacy for stopping the spread of airborne viruses like it, you actually increased your chance of catching it by wearing one. But they demanded people wear it anyways.

Then you look at the statistics surrounding the deaths, and it's all 80 year old boomers who were due to die any year. The fuckery with adding people to covid death stats no matter the circumstances too. Died of covid might just mean an illegal shitskin domed them with a Glock, but their splattered brain matter tested positive for covid.
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>>535075998
The same people promoting vaccines 'for universal health' are the same ones head-shotting toddlers in Gaza for giggles to lure their devastated parents out for execution.
The same people that want everyone to take vaccines 'for the greater good' are the same people that call everyone not-them goyim, cattle, and the CEO's just so happen to be veterinarians who did their thesis on herd control via gene drive.

It doesn't help that every bureaucratic entity in the western world has been compromised with the lucrative nature of Public Private Partnership, new speak for fascism.
You should just take your boosters and not worry about it.
I'm glad I had my kids 10 years ago when there was still a hint of integrity in the Healthcare system up here.
That's all gone Pete Tong now.

No one will ever they not taking it.
Enjoy your its-not-a-vaccine side effects, which looks to be hantavirus this year.
What a time to be alive.
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>>535075998
Because vaxxing didn't make sense.
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The same people who have been complaining about overpopulation for decades now have a special medicine for you.
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>>535084451
Vaccines aren't suppose to prevent infection. They are used to reduce the severity of the symptoms.

I know you're retarded but I'll bite: vaccines are a social tool, like washing hands, having good hygiene, in a world where there are 10 billion of us stuck together. Reduce the severity of the infection, reduces the load on our medical system, reduces the spread of the virus since some of us can't take the vaccine. Herd immunity. Vaccines only work in a group because of this.

I personally think that witnessing the anti vaxx movement, that perhaps a social route is not the best way to solve problems with disease. Humans are too retarded, unpredictable, and misanthropic to be responsible for completing the simplest of tasks: learning to read and write, washing hands, respecting each other. As a collective, the human race is just too retarded for these tasks. I do believe another disease prevention solution has to be invented (I do believe the smartest of us are already working on that, you ungrateful bastard) but we're not there yet. This is what we have, and as a human with morals and values, I will defend it.

You can go back to eating spoiled food and not washing your hands after your diarrhea shits, though. After all, you have FREEDOM and nobody is going to stop you. We are going to lose all respect and look at you weird, though.
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>>535076292
Dude, the kikes are the fascists now. That's that public private partnership means. Why do you think palintir and AI are being $trillions in tax payer money, communism?
You got free healthcare with that total surveillance?
No?
Because it's fascism.
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>>535085152
>Vaccines aren't suppose to prevent infection. They are used to reduce the severity of the symptoms.
Now you're just trolling.
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>>535085152
When's the last time you met someone with a minor case of smallpox?
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>>535075998

I don't mind vaccines. I'm just not going to have one forced on me by the government or peer pressure. I hope I get infected with Hantavirus so I can spend that entire week infecting as much of LA county as humanly possible.
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>>535084654
For someone that claims not to be anti vaxx, you're defending anti vaxxers, though.
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>>535076139
imagine believing that unironically
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>>535075998
i have my vital shots. cold shorts are worthless
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>>535084663
You sound like you think a vaccine is Jesus juice or something.
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>>535085358
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>>535084795
Spoken like a true misanthrope. Yet you still post on human made internet on a human made device, eating human made food, living in a human made house, having conversations about humanity
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>>535075998
>why won't you let the totally trustworthy government/big pharma inject all kinds of chemicals into your veins
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>>535085269
I'm defending my own position based on logic and reasoning.

>>535085097
Oh boy I hope they have a treat for me! https://archive.is/EH4Nq
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>>535085152
>If we just change the definition of vaccine, you still have to abide by the same social contract that applied to vaccines.
Lol, no.

If the vaccine works, it doesn't matter if everyone takes it. The ones that don't, just deal with the consequences. The best they, and you, can ever come up with, are these hypothetical retards with broken immune systems that can't get the vaccine, because it would hurt them. While in the same breath, claiming that the risk of being hurt that not dysgenic retards take by injecting, is fine and a risk they must accept.

My risk of any consequence from the virus was virtually 0. In fact, I never got it, and still haven't. Why would I risk some vaccine side effects when I know that my immune system is able to obliterate that cuck virus?
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>>535084864
Define "didn't work". The vaccine actually does little work. It simply reduces the severity of infection (which includes reducing spread)

The work was supposed to be done by us; get vaccinated, practice proper hygiene, avoid crowds, and respect each other. So if the vaccine didn't "work" then we didn't "work" either. We can't blame this all on a vaccine; the human race is to blame as well.
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>>535081882
Fuck off, parasite.
If you aren't seeing a reason to worry now, you should just keep taking your boosters. If you aren't up to date on your scientifically recommended number of boosters, you saw a reason for concern and stopped.
You're a lying piece of shit and nobody is going to give a shit when you die suddenly from something you injected multiple times that was rushed out from people that hate you.
Boost up, cuck.
You work for jews because you are poo.
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>>535085677
I'm not even sure the Biden era CDC was working with such a stupid fucking definition of vaccine efficacy.

You'll notice that people who get the rabies vaccine don't get "mild rabies". Someone vaccinated for measles, doesn't get mild measles. Hell, basically every vaccine aside from the covid one, and it's meme precursor, the flu vaccine, had a pretty binary efficacy. It either worked absolutely, or it didn't.
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>>535085606
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>>535085677
We were told it stopped >90% of infection, only for us to be spoonfed "no vaccines ever made were never meant to stop infection. Are you retarded?"

It's still happening in this thread.

That's a vaccine that didn't work. It had different but still beneficial results.

As a young and healthy person, I have no interest in taking a vaccine that reduces already mild symptoms.
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>>535075998
because viral contagion is a superstition
because virology is pseudo-science
because the Germ Hypothesis has been disproven, over and over and over
because all vaccines are poison (neither safe nor effective)
because jews created and are profiting from the scam
because the inoculated herd is retarded, while ive always been way ahead my class
because i dont outsource my Reason
because it make my enemies seethe
because i have a date with destiny at some mask-up checkpoint
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>>535085200
Obviously I mean vaccines don't prevent infection in people who take the vaccine. Keep it in context; im speaking from the point of view of it being a social tool. Also, people who got vaccinated STILL got infected, thus, it doesn't prevent infection. Vaccines do WHAT....YES reduce the severity symptoms...one severe symptom is spreading the virus.

If you have a cold and take cold medicine, you aren't coughing everywhere and spreading the cold virus. You're laid up taking cold medicine, eating chicken noodle soup and drinking orange juice and getting rest.
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>>535085677
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8871492/

Please read this and explain to me why the virus is not a problem currently, and why you aren't getting your 18th booster or whatever.

this protection waned to negligible levels within 7 months for BNT162b2 and 4 months for ChAdOx1 nCoV-19. Similar, but slower waning was noted for mRNA-1273 (effectiveness of 59% [95% CI 18–79] from day 181) and for ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 plus an mRNA vaccine (66% [41–80] from day 121).

Of greatest concern is waning effectiveness against severe COVID-19, which for all vaccines combined declined to 64% (95% CI 44–77) 121 days after the second dose, despite having been stable at around 90% initially.
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>>535084516
Definitely at more than 6 billion doses by now. That's just 3 billion of the first 2 shots.
We're probably closer to 20 billion doses, 6 million liters of poison.
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>>535085242
Soooo are you asking from the POV of an anti vaxxer?
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covid was real, trust me bro
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>>535086116
why would POV matter?

When's the last time you saw a minor case of smallpox? Should be fairly visible no?
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>>535081348
>If vaccines were in pill form, they wouldn't be nearly as scary for you
yeah we are made to eat things, digest them to absorb useful components, and then shit out the rest. do you see how that differs from injecting toxic goop beneath the protective layer of skin directly into the tissues which is clearly fucking retarded
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>>535086001
If the purpose of vaccines is only to reduce severity of symptoms then they have no purpose whatsoever in preventing spread of diseases. No one needs to take any vax for society's sake.

I know you're just trolling and play-acting some retarded midwit pledditor, but there really are people out there that believe such weird shit.
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>>535086174
He thinks calling someone a "no-no" name is a magic spell.
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>>535075998
I was anti vaxx until I started taking Wellbutrin. Now I'm a whole person who can function. It also gave me the courage to get vaxxed. My life has never been better. Everything is so wonderful now.
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>>535085606
>the vaccine works, it doesn't matter if everyone takes it.

The vaccine only "works" (aka "100% eFfEcTiVe") if everyone that CAN take it, takes it. You anti vaxx retards make this shit appear like it's Jesus juice or some shit. This is a TOOL that only works if it's used correctly
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>>535086269
Proud of you sister ;3
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>>535085836

This assumes that taking the vaxx doesn't reduce the contagion chance and that the side effects of the disease whilst you have the vaccine are equal to not taking the vaccine and getting infected.

So its not really a great rebuttal.
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>>535086295
This is your like 4th reply in this thread in which you haven't told me when you last saw someone with mild smallpox. Why the avoidance?
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>>535085656
One of you retards said this wasn't about the needle phobia yet all the propaganda has needles in it lol lmao even
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>>535081624
>Salk
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>>535086295

Your immune system has a memory. You taking the vaccine makes your immune system fight off the virus better since next time it only has to produce the antibodies amidst the presence of the virus you took the vaccine for.

Its not only about herd effects, its also about individual effectiveness at fighting a disease.
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>>535086295
The vaccine stops working over time, why aren't you taking your 18th booster, you haven't explained. Do you not care about those immunocompromised people? For shame.
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>>535085152
First line is complete retard shit, because stopping transmission is exactly how they sold the mandates. Thanks for putting that in front so I didn't waste my time with any more of your dribble.
How many clot shot injections to prevent yourself catching covid are you at, and how many times have you caught covid?
Enjoy your mild miocarditus.
If you're not at 16 boosters by now you're as antivax as I am.
Just much slower on the uptake.
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>>535085872
Well you weren't just taking the vaccine for you, you were taking it for the benefit of society, misanthrope
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>>535085833
Why bring up Biden? Covid hit USA after November 2020.
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>>535086510
A vaccine which worked would have done that
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>>535086455

>omg goys, a retarded intern that probably doesn't even have the correct education wrote this on a website, and this is authoritative for all eternity!

Anyone who didn't flunk middle grade biology knows that the immune system isn't infallible. That is why we get cancers, because even when your immune system is programmed to eradicate them, there are cases where it misses them and they grow out of control. Yet you don't come around here saying your immune system doesn't work.

And congratulations on finding out why there's revisions to things. Because sometimes retarded people say retarded shit.
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>>535075998
Didn't ask.
Don't care.
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>>535086295
Are you really claiming that if you have ten people, give 5 of them the smallpox vaccine, and there is an outbreak. More than the 5 unvaxxed are at risk?
Your description of vaccines is retarded, and pretty much proves they're worthless if even taking them won't stop you getting infected.
What is your value add proposition for me? I know that I'm genetically superior to you, since I've gone the last 6 years with total immunity to every variant. What possible reason should I take the magic fauci juice? It can't infect me, but the mrna cocktail might fuck me up.
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>>535086455
>because stopping transmission is exactly how they sold the mandates
Well, it's good if pledditors now think vaccines aren't supposed to stop infection and transmission, because then they can stop nagging other people into taking their vaxes.

Vax is purely to reduce symptoms, so only people who wants less symptoms need to take them.
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>>535086565
I mean BEFORE November 2020
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>>535086603

You might want to stop using your tap water, your car, sleeping under your roof and using clothes because if you think there's anything on this world that has a 100% guarantee of working I have a bridge to sell you.
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>>535086668
> Are you really claiming that if you have ten people, give 5 of them the smallpox vaccine, and there is an outbreak. More than the 5 unvaxxed are at risk?

YOU are saying that. Vaccines don't exist to prevent infection, remember?
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>>535086726
No you, only you one poster, got me. Fuck it. I'll take a page out of your book and embrace apathy. I don't care
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>>535086738
I would have taken it if the line we were sold, in which >90% of people who took the vaccine were immunized, was true.

Just like the vaccine, I would only own a car which has a >90% chance of starting when I get in it.
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>>535081882
either the vaccine works and whoever takes it is safe from catching the c-flu, so you don't have to take it, for them to be safe from your virus, or the vaccine does not work, then there is no point pretending it works by you taking it, cause it does nothing, so you don't need to take it anyways. have your parents fallen for the illogical covid fearporn? have you? why would you listen to them when they can't be reasoned with? what if they told you you need to go fight for gaylenski in ukraine?
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>>535086738
If I got the smallpox vaccine, and 18 months later someone with smallpox stood in front of me and coughed on me. What would happen to me?

Likewise if I got the covid vaccine, a single dose, just like the smallpox vaccine, and 18 months later someone with severe covid-19, the delta variant, coughed in my face. What would happen to me.
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>>535086976
>If I got the smallpox vaccine, and 18 months later someone with smallpox stood in front of me and coughed on me. What would happen to me?
You would not get smallpox.

>Likewise if I got the covid vaccine, a single dose, just like the smallpox vaccine, and 18 months later someone with severe covid-19, the delta variant, coughed in my face. What would happen to me.
You would get covid.
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>>535086303
Thanks zister. The wide world of pharmaceutical meds is what we need to make it to the end.
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>>535086861

You know what immunized means in human biology terms, right? This isn't the same as 0% chance of getting infected.
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>>535087191
Again I wasn't looking for 0%

We were told there was just a 5% +/- chance of catching COVID after the vaccine. That was a lie. They lied to trick us into taking it.

How often does your car not start when you get in?
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>>535086668
>More than the 5 unvaxxed are at risk?

Yes, the risk of symptoms is reduced in those who get vaccinated. That's the whole point. You dumb nog, I got vaccinated and I still contracted covid. However, the symptoms I experienced were minor, I practiced proper hygiene, I didn't spread it further.

Actually personal story, I contracted covid for the first time in late 2021. I had been vaccinated earlier in the Spring 2021 because I'm pro vaccine (once got 5 vaccines in one day in 2017 FOR FUN, but that's another story for another day) and I wanted to visit my 80+ grandmother who had just had a stroke.

When I finally got covid (practiced proper hygiene, I am an educated Healthcare professional since 2019. I dodged covid for almost 2 years because I'm a badass) the symptoms were so minor but I still wanted to get paid and lay up for 2 weeks. It was fun. I just watched movies all day, a lot of pitbull shooting videos for some reason lol, and just chilled out.

Now imagine if I was a complete retard and contracted covid without the vaccination. I would have been in hell, stressed out, spreading it like crazy, out of my mind.

Instead, I was vaccinated, kept my ass at home and just relaxed. A global catastrophe was a simple common cold for me.
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>>535086976

You'd have lessened your chances of both getting infected and severe consequences of smallpox.

And now you're arguing how because there's virus mutations, apparently vaccines are useless despite them coming up when the strain of virus they were made for is active?
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>>535087382
How did vaccination supposedly eradicate smallpox by that logic.
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>>535087382
When's the last time you saw someone with mild smallpox?
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>>535086358
I responded to you. Something happened to my internet connection a while back and changed my ID. Find that post you made and you'll find my response.
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>>535086365
>antivax memes feature needles
>that means antivaxers are needlephobic
wrong you silly faggot. it's because the syringe is the universally used symbol for vaccination, not only in antivax memes
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>>535075998
risk / reward ratio unfavorable for me
I'll just stay inside for a few months, thank you
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>>535086419
I lost my health insurance and vaccines are only free under that. There was a time when vaccines were free but they ended that. Before that, I could get vaccines for free under health insurance but i had to pay out of pocket if I didn't go through insurance.
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>>535087578
The needle triggered you
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>>535075998
This would be science fiction. Va***nes are plain old poisons. Poisoned patients give doctors more work.
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>>535075998
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>>535087566
All I got was you accusing me of being a reddit unwholesomerino word, without you ever saying the last time you saw minor smallpox.
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Nobody even asks about vaxxx status anymore. Hell, I can travel freely around the world whilst being unvaccinated now.
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>>535087668
samefagging this to point out vaxxers are too dumb to understand the implications of this.
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>>535088190
The point is extremely obvious, it's just that it's also most likely a photoshop.
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>>535086174
I found the post
My answer is "monkeypox, faggot"
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>>535087531
>15 instances of "smallpox"
Evidently you are not familiar with the virologists' label-swapping trick. After their magical product is available, they stop calling any afflictions "smallpox" and call it some other "disease" which conveniently elicits identical symptoms, and for which conveniently there is no diagnostic test to confirm infection, only a list of symptoms to be used for identification.
They did the same with Polio (brought on by eating mass quantities of arsenic- and lead-based pesticides such as DDT), after release of vaccine, start categorizing people with neurodegenerative issues under a new label such as "meningitis." It's always the same bs
Here's a video from Dr Sam published 4 years ago that does a good job covering the topic. How do you not already know this information in current year
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/themeaslesmyth:0
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>>535088046
My response
>>535088315
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>>535086415
So you agree lol

Omg I'm already bored of this topic and anti vaxx made this their whole personality for 6+ years...this is wild. If anything, i've learned more about the anti vaxx mindset and will move forward with this info. Thanks....?
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>>535086455
You didn't define "protection" dumbass
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>>535087513

There's a plethora of factors that would contribute to such.

If those who get infected after innoculation suffer less severe symptoms, they also require less people taking care of them, which makes for less points of contact for contagion.

If you get less severe symptoms because your immune system can catch the disease before the uncontrolable multiplication of viruses lessens the blisters and scabs you might get.

On the offchance it didn't even get to symptomatic because the immune system fought it before its capability to infect the person.

There is a reason as to why the innoculation for it was so widespread even before the vaccination concept took place.
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>>535087294

Where did you get this number? I've been searching for an hour and haven't even gotten a source for any particular value. I'm backtracking the point because it might help further the discussion.
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>>535089655
> During December 14, 2020–April 10, 2021, data from the HEROES-RECOVER Cohorts,* a network of prospective cohorts among frontline workers, showed that the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were approximately 90% effective in preventing symptomatic and asymptomatic infection with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, in real-world conditions (1,2).

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e4.htm
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>>535089825

This isn't a talking point, its a study. And pre-delta variant, they were right if they were disseminating such a talking point previous to delta surging.

Of course when a new strain of a virus appears the infection prevention of a vaccine is reduced, that's why the common flu comes out yearly, and not even that has a 90% infection prevention rate.
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>>535086652
>Anyone that didn't flunk grade 10 science knew the immune system was fallible
And anyone who didn't flunk grade 10 science knew that once your immune system beats a disease, a vaccine is a waste of time, since your body now has long lasting antibodies.
With an R0 >2, and the absolute shit job 8 months of 2 weeks to flatten the curve did to halt transmission (never mind you fucking idiots in this thread are saying the vaccines never stopped transmission) there's a >90% probability you had already contracted covid before the clot shots ever showed up, and a 100% chance you gave it to someone else AFTER you took the shots.

Every one of you fucking idiots deserves exactly what you got: a shortened lifespan, waiting for any of the 72 pages of side effects you didn't know you'd be dealing with when you signed the liability waiver to take the shot.

You are so dumb.
Thankfully your genes are now out of the pool.
I hope you gave it to your kids, and every one your related to took it a well.
Boost up.
Nobody will ever regret not taking it.
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>>535086652
>completely changes the definition of a word to feed a narrative
>calls it a revision
I will never grow tired of pointing out how mind numbingly retarded you are.
You have to be a language model at this point, to be this incapable of grasping the gravity of your mistake.
Kek.
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>>535086715
It is good.
Too bad the next disease is going to be a real one, 40% mortality shit to cover up them shutting the entire planet down, piece by piece.
First oil.
Then food production.
Then distribution.
Going to be fun watching the retards realize they're not getting the 'vaccine' for this one.
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>>535086784
Pretty obvious when you look at the data.
Pictures for the retards that still trust 'The Science'
From the WHO no less.
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>>535090112
> This isn't a talking point, its a study.

It was never true.
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>>535075998
I took the vaxx. I don’t want to die, but also /pol/ lied to me. Both ideas are upsetting.
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>>535075998
>vaxx
>vaxxed?
That's enough spike protein for you.
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>>535090112
The jab wasn't tested for any "symptom reduction" though, it was tested exclusively for preventing infection, and that was what it was given to people for too. The whole "symptom reduction" idea wasn't something anyone talked about whatsoever until almost half a year into the vaccination program, when it became clear the vax didn't prevent infection or transmission. It was not created for, tested for, or marketed for any "symptom reduction."
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>>535075998
if the state, jews and their pawns insist it supposedly is so good for me, that must mean it's actually really bad
I also have more developpedargument, but it's really enough for me, desu
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If you knew who runs this world you'd never take a single jab for anything.
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>>535077152
hate to break it to you but if you took mrna vaccine you are no longer human. you are genetically modified organism property of corpo that modified you. do with that information as you will
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>>535075998
can you imagine being a pencil dicked glownigger and doing all of that and still losing lol
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>>535092244
Always do the opposite of what (((they))) say
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The best part is, the hantavirus going airborne might be caused by all the mutated immune system out there interacting with the original poo dust hantavirus.
The reason everyone is under reacting with a disease with a 40% mortality, when a disease with a 0.1% mortality for EVERYONE under 70, comorbidities included, is because they know it's too late.
What exactly did you retards thing vaccine escape would mean for an genetically modified immune system, it would only be the one disease we now have to worry about.
Extinction, cunts.
They want you dead, and they're going to get it.
Boost up.
Too bad the next mRNA vaccine will only be for those that can afford it.
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>>535077152
It’s been explained many times but the short of it is:
We do not understand the nuances in gene therapy and though CRISPR has been known about for 20+ years. We needed a large sample size to figure out what works and what doesn’t. If you are vaxxed and had Covid after and also have no side effects; chances are you got the placebo like all doctors and most nurses. We couldn’t risk doctors all getting cancer and fucking yo a profitable business like MIC.
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because retards on /pol/ told me
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>>535087895
Nah by age 5 I was already taught to suppress my instinctive aversion to being penetrated and intoxicated. But I grew out of that indoctrination, krispyboy
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I wasn't anti-vaxx until 2021 when it became very fucking obvious they didn't work and it was all just politics.
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>>535075998
I don't believe anything the government tells me.

Period.
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>>535096269
The real government shutdown in 2001 after the towers fell
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>>535076529
The Jesuits used Remote Cultivation Strategy on many historical figures including Hitler.
Most of Hitler’s personal experiences that he mentions in mein kampf like arguments, conversations, observations (street theatre) and coordinated realizations including the mayor of his city being under the same exact Jesuit cultivation but for the purpose of directing it towards the other historical figures.

Julius Caesar experienced the same things to thru out his life and especially during his rise to power and then leading up to his death. He talked about a conspiracy beyond himself happening around him as emperor. A conspiracy above all: To influence his decisions. In his case, the ancient Egyptian postal service and its blackmailed assets in Rome conducted most of the cultivation but above all of that is another group consistent thru out history.

There is a group which establishes remote cultivation groups (like the Jesuits, knights Templar, ancient Egyptian postal service and their contacts etc who then cultivate the next set of historical figures.

It is THE strategy of history, you just identify the future historical figures via prophecies (Hitler being wutan, Caesar being predicted in the Sybils etc) and then you manually decide their beliefs by determining their conditions (the process falls apart of the subject becomes aware and then you end up with a “rogue” historical figure and many go rogue like napoleon and Hitler but neither understood what was happened to them).

ONLY the highest level secret societies, the highest levels of intelligence agencies and the MOST well researched conspiracy theorists understand Remote Cultivation Theory.

And ANYONE can assume control of it because all you have to do is identify future historical figures and drop redpills into their life and the future of the world is yours.

The laziest takeover ever.
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>>535097540
They ALWAYS have at least ONE city in any given era where the MAIN focus is on and they stack ALL the historical figures into in order to max out the efficiency.

Plus they have regional, continental and in important countries: National cities of cultivation. (However it can be done from anywhere but not as effectively).
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>>535097914
Plus certain countries with large populations, large landmass and large economies or huge amounts of resources have multiple because the historical figures are designed to effect markets in “unpredictable ways” which are beyond predictable if you can identify the next set of guys.

They select people who are prophecized primarily (meaning they have essentially plot armour and the highest levels of secret societies know that they have to play things out because interfering with destiny leads to doom because you cannot be in its way, secret societies survive by flowing with the times, not fighting it)

This means that secret societies can be primarily destroyed by having them attempt to interfere with destiny out of mainly fear (or false fear, a fake scare) which re-pivots their destiny towards doom due to being in the way of destiny: Especially religious fulfilment of prophecy.
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>>535098192
If you interfere with something that is inevitable, eventually your attempt to stop it must give out and if you can convince a group to fight against the destiny of history: They cannot possibly survive.

Destiny overrides probability, logic and impossibilities. That’s why the story of history is filled with statistically improbable things
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>>535075998
But I'm not anti-vaccine. The Polio vaccine was great. I just won't get the poison they're injecting "people" with now.
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>>535098377
And those who have the strongest destinies are those who understand it most intuitively from their first memories and then can become “super historical figures” like Napoleon, Hitler And Caesar by actively studying destiny and trying to understand it.

But none of them understood remote cultivation theory, creating the opportunity for something even crazier than anyone before: A Self Cultivated Super Historical Figure.

Literally dawning a new era, especially with the invention of new technologies within Time.
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>>535098685
A remote cultivation empire
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>>535075998
I'm anti-vaxx because I think FDR was a bitch for getting polio.
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>>535076159
>Trump being an expert, and pioneer in virology, and MRNa gene therapy, single-handedly convinced the CDC the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)
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>>535075998
Myocarditis is just the tip of the iceberg
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>>535099223
>the absolute chutzpah of scapegoating vaccine-damaged fdr's condition onto a non-existent "poliovirus" which provided impetus for mass vaccinations (poisonings) resulting in mass neurological damage
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>>535075998
the jews gave me some sort of shot in jail when they lawfared me and im still batshit fucking insane whats vaxtards excuse
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>>535076529
reptillians dont control shit bitch
so much for chaos magic lmao
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>>535077152
>Active research on cancer for over 100 years
No cure.
>Research for tetanus vaccine
42 years
>Active development on covid vaccine
11 months

If it has not been researched, tested and observed on humans for longer than 10 years or alternatively there is no free donuts, i am not interested
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>>535076139
It's not so much "every vaccine ever is bad"
It's more "this particular one is bad"
But there was a widespread psyop to make you exchange the two ideas, and that only affirms my belief that there was something about the covid vaccine that's off.
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>>535075998
It was never an inconveniance to not do it.
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>>535102894
They develop a new regular flu vaccine annually and have done for decades
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>>535075998
The Canadian Government is pro-vaxx. That's all you need to know it is fucked, pic rel
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>>535075998
Because I know that a vaccine takes ten to fifteen years of rigorous testing to bring to the market.

Not one year. And that's for typical vaccines, not the completely novel method they recently used.

But also, because they started calling people anti vax. Which is not true, I'm anti mrna. In about another five to ten years I may not be anti mRNA. Thank you for your service vaxi
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>>535081624
It goes beyond that. In modern times VPDV (vaccine-derived polio virus) accounts for over 90% of polio cases world wide. These shills couldn't have picked a worse vaccine to compare against covid.
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>>535075998
Easily verifiable. I downloaded a 3rd party bluetooth app and scanned rooms i was in. Youll get unnamed devices in every house, BUT they will state a manufacturer. The vaxxed have no manufacturer on the apps, I have none in my house as we didnt take the vax. In my families house that did take the vax those unnamed, no manufacturer bluetooth devices show up.
This isnt that hard to verify.
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>>535106525
>body begins emanating a wireless signature
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etdk3_t7_FE
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>OP
>are you anti vaxx
No.
I'm anti-pharmaceutical corporation, and anti-globalist.


The 2020-2021 jab wasn't a vaccine.
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>>535106525
Even fresh graves are emitting Bluetooth signals.
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>>535106525
Just to add. Im lucky because i have a control environment to test if the bluetooth comes up. I live on 5 acres out of town, and no one in my family took the vaxx or a pcr test. When i tested it in town at a families home, i can verify the number and see it change dependant on the number of people in the house. It doesnt work with the app already on your phone, only with 3rd party apps that can for all devices.
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>>535106854
I dont want to mention the app i use because they may make it so it doesnt do it anymore. Also its not all unnamed bluetooth devices it just the ones that show no manufacturer. When you search in a house you can see people come and go. I dont know if youve seen the people spinning when they die but thats what i think its for. Like a kill switch also they want to use people as antenna with 6g.
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>>535107120
People as antenna 6g. Basically they will install firmware into you.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a42419268/6g-power-humans-antennas/
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>>535102894
My favorite quote.
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>>535105180
>"real" vaccines are safe and effective
there are no "real" vaccines as virology is pseudo-science. do your research
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>>535107219
>https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a42419268/6g-power-humans-antennas/
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>>535075998
the testing wasn't satisfactory and I believe there's a reasonable chance the mrna reverse transcribes into you DNA, so certain cells continously make spike proteins that cause a slew of health issues. we know the mrna has reverse transcribed into hepatic cells, so I think I was right to believe internet schizos as everyone I know keeps getting sick.
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Anti-stupidity != antivaxxxxxx.
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just like computer antivirus software companies create computer virus to make certain that their products are needed

biological pharmaceutical industry created problems to make their products needed

>www.reddit.com/r/whatisit/comments/1tcr84g/found_on_the_back_of_my_neck/

I like the conspiracy about the COVID vaccines are a population control to kill people stupidity enough to take the 5g activated aneurysms

don't believe me, reply with your cell phone number and wait until it activated
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>>535075998
i ate your vax now it gives me power
you should disconnect me from your ai lmao
oh wait
i ate it
:D
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>>535075998
Vaccines are jewish. No thank you
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>>535078390
> Vaccine reduces the amount of people who contract the virus
No
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>>535075998
honestly? I don't trust "new medical technology" in the form of a vaccine. It does NOT prevent you getting the disease, anyways. EVERY person I know that almost died from really bad Covid? All were double and triple vaxxers. Without a ten-year trial and regular testing phase, I'll just give it a hard "nope". I'm not being a human guinea pig. Nigger, do you know how MANY "safe and effective" drugs killed people that they had to pull from market? Tons in recent history. I won;t take ANYTHING, until its been out long enough I get to see if it kills people.



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