24% chance to secede prior to next federal election:https://kalshi.com/markets/kxalbertarefyes/alberta-referendum-succeeds/kxalbertarefyes-29Last breads:>>534875926 >>534510592>>534176240 Oct 19, 2026 - secession voteNews: Judge prevents referendum petition, as First Nations, who support secession more than staying:https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/article/alberta-separation-petition-overturned-as-judge-rules-in-favour-of-first-nations/Lifeworks, working for Alberta, determined that Alberta owns 53% of Canada's CPP, the country's pension fund.Per Canada's chief actuary, as of 2023, it's 20-25%.Alberta is 13% of Canada's population. THIS IS THE RAKEhttps://www.sherwoodparknews.com/news/local-news/alberta-is-not-entitled-to-half-of-cpp-fund-says-chief-actuary ITT we post news showing the feds fighting back.ITT we also post Forever Canada cringe.Dystopian news of the day: University of Toronto makes a multi-denominational prayer room MUSLIM ONLY:https://townhall.com/tipsheet/amy-curtis/2026/05/06/u-of-toronto-prayer-room-muslims-only-n2675615Federal treatment of Alberta oil industry:Applied to federal government in 2024, and just as the Trucker Convoy prompted the feds to lift Covid restrictions within a week, after 3 months of delays, the feds are using this approval to quell secession sentiment. But let's not forget:Keystone XL - 15 years, incomplete. Transmountain - completed after government bought it, estimated cost $5B, actual cost $30B.https://globalnews.ca/news/11815564/federal-government-natural-gas-pipeline-expansion/Alberta Succession Discussion7PM MON,WED,FRIhttps://youtube.com/@unacceptablefringe?si=jDjEU9Yc8T5BBmAL
Separatists are the dumbest group of people. Imagine falling for multiple foreign governments propaganda this hard
>>535076906I can't believe our taxes get stolen to fund your shitty posts
>>535076906Not only that, but apparently a bunch of pro-separatist Youtube channels were owned by Dutchfags just trying to make money off engagement, hiring actors as "Canadians", using AI scripts, and spamming videos every day.
>>535076906CopeFeds are worried Alberta leaves, Canada experiences hyperinflation within a decade.
>>535076996>I can't believe our taxes get stolen to fund your shitty postsThat's the saddest part. Shills could do proper shilling, but they have no mind, are NPCs and cultists.
>>535077007>Oh no, people are making money from doing work
>>535077100There's also the crabs in a bucket mentality with a lot of Canadians>if we collapse you have go down with us!
>>535077455>There's also the crabs in a bucket mentality with a lot of Canadians>>if we collapse you have go down with us!I think that they hate that we can't make their retardation work. Their ideas are shit, and they hate us for it. Your theory also likely, this book explains that unequal suffering is explained by witchcraft and theft.
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>>535076731Alberta is more of a unique nation then Quebec. Alberta has its own cowboy culture, dialect, even folkish songs and dancing, while Quebec is just another Ontario with French language.
>>535076906You are saying this as Carney is gargling on Xi's temu cum.
>>535078740They like to talk about their history. Bunch of useless eaters, subsidized through government employment.
knowing how gay this timeline is, Alberta secedes and immediately 10x's their rate of importing smelly poos
ngl, vancouver kinda stinks.
>>535076731>24%Lol. Lmao, even. You got ~7%, a number of which possibly did it purely in a "we should ask the question to settle it" mode, and a number which may have done it understanding that the pressure of separatism on the Federal is a useful tool in constitutional negotiations. Half of your bitching is related to unbuilt pipelines. Then Carney says go ahead built them. Then, you doxxed the entire Province. > OH NO 15 YEARS TO BUILD ECONOMY DEFINING PIPELINEshit mate its like big projects takes a long fucking time to get done. Weird huh? Fucking retards, the whole lot.
>>535079144>stream of consciousnessNo inner monologue
Saint Probie came to me in a dream.We snorted big par 5 size nose beers and drank giant cans of Wildcat.He told me that if Alberta gets independence, they’ll be rewarded with a Stanley Cup.
>>535078740>Alberta is more of a unique nation then Quebec.Alberta is not a Nation. "Albertan" is not a national group. Even if it was it wouldn't be white. The current folks that are bitching are the 2nd~3rd generation descendants of the last wave of immigrants sent by Ottawa to fuck the previous inhabitants of the territory.
>>535079325let's be honest, old stock died in ww1/ww2 or overdosed long ago. All we have is newgens and chugs.
>>535079486I think there's a major difference between northern and southern, throughout Canada.
>>535079486Alberta had more fragile demographics than the Eastern Provinces, even from the start. They also (after BC I think) pioneered foreign worker immigration with all the chinese, filipinnos and africans they imported in the early 2000s. It was probably manageable levels back then, however. The argument for Albertan independence is purely economic, obviously, its proponent will argue otherwise because it reinforce the legitimacy of their claim. From my external point-of-view, its annoying because it is historically insulting and ignorant, but above all, holy shit its unnecessary, because the founding myth of the Canadian Constitution (the Federal as a well intended Father to the Provincial children) presupposes that we could eventually discuss going our own ways, that its a legitimate question in itself, and that you don't need to pretend Quebeckers are all coveting your liquid gold or some shit to bring it up.
>>535076731There is no vote stop thinking you can do anything within the very system which has relegated you to slavery to the crown.
>>535080480Thoughtful post, will integrate into future OPs
>>535076731>>535077013Imagine voting to become a landlocked state lol. BC and California bout to make bank charging your sorry asses for port access lmfao. I envision tons of farmers destroying surplus crops they can't sell at profit. Enjoy voting yourself into a famine because russians and americans on X told you to
>>535081516>shit posts like these are what our tax dollars are spent on
>>535079325Alberta is a nation to a much bigger extent then say Kosovo or one of those weird tiny European nations.
>>535076906canada collapses without alberta. feds no longer have access to bc or the territories
>>535076906>erm it's supported by foreign governmentsOkay? The Canadian Government is also supported by foreign governments. This is a bullshit statement with no relation to whether I think Alberta should secede.Not that I do, because it's retarded. That would put the UCP entirely in charge and I have zero interest in giving those kikeservatives any more power. It'd probably be Brexit 2.0 and everything would get worse despite the people's will.By the way, find a Water not Coal petition and sign it. The coal we mine is dogshit and can only be used for power generation, and coal plants suck. There is no reason to rape the Rockies more than they already are.https://www.waternotcoal.ca/
>>535082637Oh look a dipper retard snuck here from reddit. Fuck off back to Ontario, we will mine the coal, we will dump the waste in the water and we will crush the public sector union filth
Kill all Reddit Canadians
>>535082637Oh yes, we will also put an AI data center right by your house
>>535082944Why? That fucks the agriculture and ranching industries when we've already been in a drought for a decade. Coal is a terrible method of power generation when we have all the natural gas we could want, plus nuclear from Saskatchewan if we ever got our shit together.
>>535076906Anon, i know its hard to "Find your friends" but you have to understand. There is no bigger cuck in the world than a Canadian Nationalist. >Stop being a fucking retard, the ship is going down,
>>535076731>News: Judge prevents referendum petition, as First Nations, who support secession more than staying:The First Nations are one defined victim group among many that our growing kritarchy is happy to use as a kind of puppet/figurehead to get its way. You could assume that Smith wants to hold a fair referendum with minimum mud splashed on herself/her party but where separation soundly loses, for now. It might help her with political capital and negotiating with Ottawa. Clever tricks like what this judge pulled increase the risk of a Brexit surprise result.>>535079325>The current folks that are bitching are the 2nd~3rd generation descendants of the last wave of immigrants sent by OttawaA people. A nation. Forged in the fires of an economic model of British colonialist extraction.>>535079144> OH NO 15 YEARS TO BUILD ECONOMY DEFINING PIPELINEThere is a legitimate Canada-wide problem of projects taking years longer to receive approvals than it should take for them to be constructed altogether.>Then Carney saysOur politicians say lots of things. Other than an increase in federal spending and a number of photo ops what has actually changed so far? Canada's fought entire wars in the past in less time than it's taking today to hold consultations on what moribund economic projects are so critical that they must skip the regular line.>>535082637We should have had a crash program to replace our coal exports with natural gas exports years ago.The realities of Canadian politics and business had the freaking coalition NDP and Green government of BC increase its coal exports instead.The real progress is nudging quality of life a little bit worse with PFAS-contaminated paper straws.
>>535083214To sell the coal abroad? We have it we may as well sell it.
>useful idiot - noun>a naive or credulous person who can be manipulated or exploited to advance a cause or political agenda>astroturfing - noun>organized activity that is intended to create a false impression of a widespread, spontaneously arising, grassroots movement in support of or in opposition to something (such as a political policy) but that is in reality initiated and controlled by a concealed group or organization (such as a corporationWhat you are witnessing is not grassroots support for Alberta separatism, but rather targeted influence operations ran against Canada by a coalition of Russian and American discord groups. While there is a small minority of Albertans who espouse separatist beliefs, it remains an extremist, fringe position put forth by the lowest educated rural voters. These people are being manipulated and riled up by sophisticated operations designed to demoralize Canadians and Albertans and divide us against each other so we can be devoured by the behemoth to our south.Make no mistake: there would be no statehood in our future, no cordial relations for us as a landlocked third country in the middle of two nations. We would be an American territory like Puerto Rico within the year (see how long they've been waiting for statehood). You and everyone you know would lose: your health care, your pension, and all the other benefits that accrue from being part of a community of provinces. You and everyone you know would have their quality of life decrease, drastically.Do not delude yourself. When twitter/x briefly showed the true locations of separatist agitators, they were Russian. Wake up.
>>535079144The carney mou is a meme, I can't believe Smith actually signed onto it. The people who have been vetoing a pipeline for years can and will still veto the mou pipeline and we get stuck with more carbon taxes for this pipeline that will never be built
>>535083655Thank you Canadian government for this insightful post. Yes it's the russo-american-iranian bots pushing for this and has nothing to do with with the fact that 2 provinces decide every election and those 2 provinces have terrible economy wrecking political views.
A man used to be able to go up north and work one 2 week rotation and buy a brand new Corolla off the lot when he came back home. We were #1 in the world in GDP and you pissed it all away in 10 years. 60 billion dollars left Canada in the first 1/4 of 2025 never to return. You’re doing billion dollar deals like Stellantis and Honda without even fucking signing a contract because you’re that incompetent. You’re spending our tax dollars on state propaganda saying we’re the fastest growing country in the G7 when we’re not even in it anymore at number fucking 11! And you think we’re stupid for wanting to leave you behind?
>>535083655Hey brainiac. The US is joining the globalist system not the other way around. Are you fucking blind? They are telling you 51st state this and that but what is really happening is the partitioning of USA to private interests. This war isnt nation vs nation>Sovereign Wealth VS>Private Capital
>>535083655>by a coalition of Russian and American discord groupsThe Russia narrative is retarded. CSIS reported that Russia, India, China, Israel, and the US are all trying to get influence and destroy Canada, where China is the biggest, followed by India, then Israel (the US's master).Even you glow nigger spammers know that.
Canadians don't even seem real. It is like if children were asked to tell you how a country should be run.
>>535083876>canada is pissing their money awaythis is what we get for sending our wealth overseas. all of those starving children are now at our doorstep, asking for our careers & families
>>535084085Canada is what the US would be if you didn't have the electoral college. New York city and LA would decide every election
>>535083655Posts like this tell me they’re shidding and farding BAD. Tell me CSISnigger, why are you wasting your time on us and on Facebook when you have the CIA you should be contending with? Do you have any real plan to stop them? I think as soon as the vote goes ahead they’re going to take us and you won’t do anything but watch. I’d rather be ruled by the glowniggers that make cheese out of their excess milk instead of dumping it down the drain. They’re winners and you’re losers.
>>535084252Given the rate the economy is failing these csis agents will have to get a second job at Wendy's. Hope it was worth it!
>>535076906no province should want to stay in canada given the feds jeetpocalypse strategy other than ontario and quebecif you like anything about canada at all you should leave immediately, because none of it will last when the policy is to take a million jeets every year
>>535083671She has to give the federal government the opportunity to succeed or fail. Like what's the alternative? Just bitch as your bitching gets framed as uncooperative and unfit for a premier?>>535083655>When twitter/x briefly showed the true locations of separatist agitatorsfyi for your next copypasta you can still click on twitter profiles to see where they are posting from and where the account was created.>by the lowest educated rural votersThanks to Poe's law I can't tell whether your post is supposed to be straightforward support or reverse psychology. "Hurr durr rural hicks" is really played out and all you're missing is "and MAGA"
>>535076906You are too obvious, and if you aren’t a paid shill you’re doing their job for free and are provably retarded. The RCMP would absolutely try to find foreign interference as their contract with the province is also at risk in the coming years.
>>535084385She can still do that but I would have had a clause that none of the taxes would be implemented until the pipeline is completed, where as we now have the taxes and no pipeline
>>535084310Who is even going to keep paying for their glowniggery once we’re gone? I think the Wendy’s job will be all they’ll have soon. They should be studying what the viet cong and Iranians did to stop the CIA instead they’re making Facebook AI slop posts. It really shows that they’re an “intelligence agency” that’s run by 70iq jeets now.
>>535081516The ironic part is that with Canada's impending collapse, Ontario and Quebec will be annexed to USA as territories, while Alberta might have a chance at statehood.
>why doesn't English speaking Canada eject Quebec
>>535084862Manitoba,Ontario (at least Ottawa and the GTA) and the maritines also have to go
>>535083655So Albertan separation movement is grassroots and genuine, while anti-separation "movement" is run by discord groups from China? Not surprised at all.
>>535084758I really doubt canada will actually collapse any time soon, more likely it will resemble the dysfunctional south and central american countries except with jeets and africans instead of latinos
CALGARY – A new report is raising concerns about foreign interference in Canada, with researchers warning that the Alberta separatism debate has become a growing target of co-ordinated online campaigns tied to countries such as Russia.Russia’s engagement with Alberta separatism is covert, it appears doctrinal,operational, and sustained. Russian government strategy has long emphasizedexploiting divisive issues within Western democracies.When external actors amplify separatist narratives, normalize annexation, encourage nationalrupture, or undermine confidence in democratic processes, the issue is no longer only a matterof provincial politics. It becomes a direct threat to Canada’s democratic integrity, nationalsecurity, and cognitive sovereignty.https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/russia-amplifying-alberta-separatism-debate-to-stoke-division-study/
>>535076731You won’t do shit.But if you do decide to do shit let me know I’ll vote for separation if I get to keep a Albertan and Canadian citizenship
>>535078966Exactly like brexit and texas
no taxation without freedom o algo
>>535083531I already answered you, it fucks up the water table and everything downstream of that. These plants would wreck other industries and towns.You're also saying 'we' as if the province is going to see a dime of the profits. Any jobs created by this will be at the expense of the jobs which are lost from the contaminated water.
>>535084220>>canada is pissing their money away>this is what we get for sending our wealth overseas.Canada is also impoverishing itself the other way around through decades of foreign direct investment. Foreign companies coming to Canada to build something new is one thing, but the Canadian reality is existing profitable Canadian businesses getting sold off. Future economic profits within Canada belong instead to foreign interests. Even Carney is trying to sell off our ports now. Historical pathways for Canadians to participate in building their own capital have been cut off. The replacements look mostly like X government program for Y special identity group with Z free money but only with the help of an insider NGO to make it through the process. It's that or get in as a contractor charging the government millions for a $100k app.>>535084507>their contract with the province is also at riskAre they going to return to bombing pipelines? Like if the FBI used to set up morons for terrorism charges, handholding them the entire way, in order to demonstrate the FBI's necessity then what does/might the RCMP do?>>535084758>Canada's impending collapseI really doubt a successful separation vote. AB will take the results and argue for autonomy more similar to what Quebec enjoys with provincial versions of federal entities.If you mean economic collapse that's even more unlikely. If even Trump couldn't slow down imports of Canadian energy then it's never going to happen. Anything else is solvable by bailout. The federal government can keep borrowing money as needed.
Canada's system of government is weird. I still can't believe there isn't free trade among provinces, or at least, I've somehow heard you can't just ship products across Canada internally in the way you generally can in the US. Also the charters of rights and freedoms or whatever it's called is hilariously broad and vague and it's allowing courts to slowly invent law by how it's interpreted.
>>535085441There is no such thing as inalienable rights in Canada, we have no absolutes. Section 1 of the charter states very plainly that our "rights" are not absolute and may be restricted. Section 33 also allows for the charter to be bypassed entirely. Of course the feds erode them slowly as to not make the masses aware of the inherent uncertainty baked into Canadian law.
>>535085441you have to understand canada as fundamentally a vassal and slave state. they are the people who were too cowardly to leave. they love the control of government, and they crave to be ruled over by those they view as their elite.canada's window of middle class prosperity and success was a weird quirk of circumstance, especially coasting on america's success. that was just an accident. now it's being flooded by laborers from the rest of the world to resume it's role as a slave state. funny thing is canadians don't even care. they love being ruled over.
>>535086048It is the most risk averse country in the entire world. And still is.
>>535085036good
>>535085208It will be both. Most of jeets will welcome unification with USA, to bring both diasporas together. There is no reason for AB to stay and even if Ottawa refuses to recognize it, what exactly will laurenatian faggots do? Start a war with the Alberta, potentially giving US excuse to intervene?
>>535086910Trump isn't going to be in office forever.. There is a 0% chance a dem is going to send aid to AB after the 51st state debacle.
>>535085036>IT'S THE ROOOOOSKIIEEESSSMy tax dollars contribute to this jeet level propagandathis is more offensive than the propaganda itself
>>535086910I also think that long term the jeetification of canada will lead to it joining america.the holdouts in canada are entirely the euro descended canadians who have their entire identities shaped in the context of not being america. they are willing to sacrifice their own prosperity in order to do any amount of damage to american chuds.the millions of new migrants to canada don't see any of that. for most canada is not the first choice. they come to a place like canada strictly for economic reasons and when canada has another decade or two of stagnation they will be very open to joining america. whether it will make sense at that point is what is unknown. by that point it might make sense to keep canada at arm's length and used for resources and outsourced labor the way mexico and south american states are used by america. the demographics will be nightmarish. it isn't even just jeets, canada takes in large numbers of africans now. going from around 0% black to 5% black in only a few decades.
>>535085036>Russian interference strat in the big 26If you just stop and think about it objectively, why would Russia even care about Alberta independence? Wouldn’t they want some of the last true Ukrainian values and communities to be drowned out in a sea of brown the way Ottawa is doing? Why would they want the United States to gain control of all the fresh water, the oil, the potash, and eventually the uranium in Saskatchewan? Last I checked they allied with china. You have to try a bit harder CSISniggers
>>535076906cope and seethe glowie>>535081516lol, lmao even
>>535087334I guess destabilizing the country bordering them is a good reason. It will inevitably force several domestic armed conflicts. If AB truly ever leaves it will not be by the stroke of a pen.
>>535083655>labels post with warninglmao
>>535087555>mask off
>>535087082Do you think JD is going to be more open to Carney then Trump? >>535087334Carney is owned by China. Who is allied to Russia. If anything, the judge who ruled against referendum was bribed by a Russian, kek.
>>535087850Dangerous white nationalist populists who are also being controlled by ... evil foreign money. Meanwhile Carney is inking deals with the CCP and Saudi Arabia. its inane.
>>535087850It's incredibly foolish to measure the success of the movement based on hypothetical political leadership and their future acts. As far as I'm concerned it either happens in Trump's term or it doesn't at all. It should be concerning if you possess more than a juvenile understanding of the scope of the timeline for finalizing this thing.
>>535087082its a non-zero chance that the US would involve itself in any armed conflict let alone an AB/ eastern Canada conflict. but realistically they would give more support to the federalists.The conflict itself would be quite interesting as the federal side would likely rely on foreign mercenaries ala trucker convoy.
>>535076731It won't. Danielle Smith is not serious. She just want some political leverage. There are no political solutions
>>535087257>>535087334Russia used the same techniques to promote regional separatism in Donbas and bring war to Ukraine.We're not kidding when we say Ukraine is fighting for the collective free world. Remember. Yesterday it was Ukraine being subverted and divided by russia, tomorrow it's you.
>>535087850JD as well as Trump are trying to install a north American technate, its what their big tech donors want; a continuous economic zone between Venezuela and Greenland run by big tech/industry
>>535088302Well yeah that's what I mean. Any future president is going to be team Canada after what has transpired, not aiding the group ottawa will deem domestic terrorists.
>>535077007As opposed to government paid shills?
>>535088385explain the techniques in detail you are referring to.
>>535088353worse she's Kenney 2.0 I'm calling it, after she retires she will call all the separatist kooks and she was just doing her best to 'stop the inmates from taking over the asylum'
>>535088533I'm sure they will profit off it however they can lmao but yeah I don't think they want any balkanization on the continent they want the opposite
>>535088385I find it odd that Putin is the only politician who’s said in plain English that they are eating our children I find it more odd that your president is one of the “theys” he’s referring to. Are you sure you’re not one of those “theys” that they’ve setup entire cities in the Ukraine for now anon?
>>535076731Can I come? I'm white and plucky.
>>535088385>We're not kidding when we say Ukraine is fighting for the collective free world.World where anyone can come to my country if they can buy a plane ticket? In that case I hope Russia wins this.
>>535088149My point is that this has nothing to do with Trump or even GOP. US Deep State wants to control the Arctic because they view Russia, Europe and UK as hostile entities going for their resources. If Obama was president he'd likely move for annexing Canada too in a situation like that.
>>535088385Russia isn't replacing my country with shitskins though. My "government" is.
>>535088612Its the new west wing of muh nato strategy to counter the far right.They want us to trust the plan, hand in our irons, go into the vans now and "talk it out at the station" so we end up in Iran or Ukraine getting blown up like dudes in a game of CNC:Generals for globohomo,Alberta separatism was us simply throwing a rock at the laurentians, the mere idea normies actually took it hilarious is a testament to out ability to shitpost space and time.
>>535090720>muh artic.Yeah, and if you care you can come here and get paid 3-4x what you do down south and if you are bonded and in the ability to do contracting you can get paid silly amounts of government money, and paid to fix your own mistakes (conflict of interest).If only we had some sort of loyalist backed construction and disaster relief group that all wore nice green polo shirts and had peak canadian jawlines...Picrel, ice wall, Alert Nunavut.
