>muh we need free healthcare®No, you don't.There is no such thing as that. Someone is paying for it. In Germany it's around 20% of your gross income, split between your employer and you.The services are notoriously bad. You'll wait for months to see a specialized doctor.A healthy young person that exercises pays the same as a chainsmoking alcoholic.>muh we need gun controlNo, you don't. In Germany mass shootings happen too, the difference is that here only criminals have guns. Plus nowadays terrorists use cars a lot to kill people. Who knows, maybe Europe will ban cars too.Don't fall for socialist EU propaganda. The US is fine as it is, if anything it needs to become LESS regulated.
In the end there is no difference since both continents are owned and ruled by megacorporations anyway.
>>535093329>Germany's 2026 mass shootings: 2>USA's 2026 mass shootings: 134 I do agree with the first part, but statistics favor gun control.
>>535093329>we need free healthcareI've never said this though
>>535093329We need healthcare regulations toughbeit. Nothing in life is free, but a modern economy doesnt follow the natural laws of supply and demand.
>>535093329>In Germany weShut the FUCK UP
>>535093331Aren't most of these mass shooting black on black crimes with illegally obtained guns?Plush ow many acts of terror have been committed using cars compared to Germany?And look at Switzerland, very lax guns laws but barely any mass shootings.
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>>535093329>The services are notoriously bad. You'll wait for months to see a specialized doctorSame in the US AND they pay up more for it.
>>535093334tsmt
>>535093333The system is already heavily regulated because of obamacare, in a free market no sane insurer would take someone with pre-existing conditions
>>535093337he is lying though. the german medical system is worlds above the american when it comes to access. its just that germans and euros in general have no clue how bad it is in countries like the usa, they literally live in a country that has far easier and faster access to medical services than 90% of the world but will tell you the situation is unbearable because the dermatologist wouldnt look at his mole tomorrow but gave him a date in 2 months instead. he could just pay 100 eur and go to a private dermatologist tomorrow and get 40 eur back from his public health insurance, but he rather goes on 4chan and laments there.
>>535093329you need to start paying the same amount of money to a private insurance company that needs to make profit and denies claims while making you pay treatment costs out of pocketIN GERMANY
>>535093340wtf are you talking aboutif you have public health insurance you can't just see a private dermatologist and get money back wtfin fact for most stuff like a dental crown you will pay 50% out of pocket despite the thousands you pay for health insurance each yearthe whole system is a fucking scam
>>535093329VPN off Cletus McSackler
>>535093331Why do you agree with the first part when statistics also show that universalized healthcare is not only morw efficient, but cheaper to boot?
>20 of your incomewhy not 40? 60?taxes bad guns goodpls die but first go to america
>>535093342>or most stuff like a dental crown you will pay 50% out of pocket despite the thousands you pay for health insurance each year>the whole system is a fucking scama dental crown costs NOTHING in comparison to your stay in a hospital or god forbid intensive care unit. 1 week in the ICU is easily 80.000 eur. a simple knee surgery with 3 days of stay in the clinic 6000 eur minimum. gall blader removal 6000 eur, any form of cancer 30.000-100.000 eur minimum. your dental crown is nothing compared to that. that is what you are paying for and god forbid you become old and need to stay for weeks in the hospital, that costs the system 5k to 12k eur per week. you may not use the system now in your 30s but you will definitely show up in the hospital at 70 and then your treatment will cost a lot.
>>535093344LOL that's EU propaganda if I've ever seen anyThat goes against basic logicIn the EUSSR people are pretty much incentivized to become sickInstead of offering lower premiums for people who are fit and healthy it's sick people who get extra holidays in the form of a so called "Kur"Calling in sick every other week is basically part of the European work ethic at this pointCheaper? My ass. It's simply profitable for the medical establishment, the very same people who make up these statistics. Only an idiot would be fooled by that.
>>535093347you are not the age group that actually requires medical care, so you being fit in your 30s or 40s or 20s doesnt do anything for the health insurance. 90% of their payouts go to 70-90 year olds and in that age bracket you could argue they want more sick people that die faster and not longuevity dudes that carry20 chronic diseases around, but dont die because their heart and blood vessels are still somewhat fit.
>>535093329Then move to burgerland. You are retarded enough to belong there.
>>535093346So you are telling me these people could've used their whole career to save money in case they get sick during old age but instead of doing so they now rely on wealth transfer from the young and able? Sounds like a dick move to me. Why should I have any sympathy?So in essence the money could've been invested in some productive enterprise to be withdrawn in case of need but it was just in the hands of some scammy insurance company that is guaranteed business by law. And one wonders why Europe's economy is a joke at this point.
>>535093329you're just a contrarian. get off the internet
>>535093348These 70 to 90 year olds certainly don't enjoy live anymore if they need so much medical attention.It's a money making scheme, that's all there is to it.>inb4 muh you'll be old one dayYeah, if my existence is a mere burden to productive people then I'd be fine with assisted dying.
>>535093329Why can’t I buy medicine and tests over the counter? The whole America is corrupt
