I've seen what happens when these ideas are not followed. Colonialism spread lots of wonderful technologies around the globe, but it oppressed and enslaved millions. Untold economic potential was obliterated through mercantilism and the deindustrialization of colonies. Working people are being ripped off daily, as roads/hospitals are privatized and sold off to private equity firms with minimal regulation on price controls. Billions of tax pay dollars are siphoned from working people to subsidize corporate interests and political entities. Young people working multiple jobs can barely afford rent and food. We ought to change this

didnt read

>>535101620
Might will always make right. There’s no other way, sadly

>>535101620
>>free trade is the means of distributing resources, not conquest
= Infinite indians
>>voluntary arrangements and employment is how labor is conducted, not slavery
= Forced DEI quotas
>>international courts is how transnational disputes are settled, not warfare
= Leftist-liberal dominion
>>Excess consumption is taxed, rather than the labor and necessary consumption of those already struggling
= Literal communism
>>Research and information discovered in one part of the world can be shared and conjoined with research done in other parts of the world. The scientific community should be global in reach
= IP theft
>>Community autonomy should triumph the will of ardent nationalists seeking to crush diversity and install uniformity
= Forced ethnic replacement of whites
>>Government should be designed in such a way whereas powerful interest groups cannot usurp others' rights or extract their resources for personal benefit
Basically the only reasonable thing you've said yet.

>>535101620
you are a retard, at the end of the day history is just might makes right fag.

>>535101620
I sure am glad I got taught by educators looking to teach me math, English, and science instead of you looney activists trying to force your worldview on a bunch of kids. I feel really bad for kids who have to go to public school these days.

>>535101650
You couldn't read it anyway.

>>535101666
The 90s really saw the opening of a Unipolar world where the U.N and International Criminal Court held respect and authority. It sucks how it devolved with the rise of China and Russia as global powers, and with Bush's illegitimate war and torture program in Iraq which obliterated our reputation globally and made the world less trustful in U.S integrity.

>"I'm a left-wing activist!"
>Posting about "muh slavery from 150 years ago" and other idpol dogwhistles on /pol/ and not even mentioning one word about problems with capitalism or class warfare.
Nope. You're a professional fascist propagandist who is paid to misrepresent leftist views here on /pol/. You didnt fool me. And I'm an actual leftist.

>>535101620
That’s a long way to go just to say “I’m a faggot”.

>>535101620
>free trade is the means of distributing resources, not conquest
It's the same thing. The only difference is who's fucking who.
>voluntary arrangements and employment is how labor is conducted, not slavery
No one is free from coercion
>international courts is how transnational disputes are settled, not warfare
Morality is subject.
>Excess consumption is taxed, rather than the labor and necessary consumption of those already struggling
So you want the government to steal
>Research and information discovered in one part of the world can be shared and conjoined with research done in other parts of the world. The scientific community should be global in reach
You're only creating a corruptible global authority.
>Community autonomy should triumph the will of ardent nationalists seeking to crush diversity and install uniformity
If ardent nationalist cant crush diversity, then their community has no autonomy.
>Government should be designed in such a way whereas powerful interest groups cannot usurp others' rights or extract their resources for personal benefit
Not possible.

>>535101884
>Infinite indians
You can have free trade regarding goods and services without mirroring that with immigration

>Forced DEI quotas
I never said that, actually the opposite. An unregulated labor market would have no DEI or quotas, it's totally up to the individual employer and employee

>Leftist-liberal dominion
There would need to be work to ensure they weren't biased. The WTO did a pretty good job for the time being.

>Literal communism
Was U.S communist in the 1880s when they used excise taxes and tariffs on luxury goods to fund their government? Was Thomas Jefferson a communist? He basically supported Veblen's economic system before Veblen was born.

>IP theft
No, IP laws would be protected globally, but one could still lease out said knowledge.

>Forced ethnic replacement of whites
I was referring more to the Amish who don't want to adhere to the FDA's raw milk ban, or the Mormons not wanting to adhere to Federal Laws against polygamy

> Basically the only reasonable thing you've said yet.
Based

>>535101620
Didn't read but already know the path out of tribalism was offered by JC of Nazareth and it was denied by every single nation, religion, and tribe that still practices the primitive tribal maladaptive behavior you are probably looking to blame on capitalism like some dumb fucking leftist moron.

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>>535101620
You are a faggot
You are a feminist
Suck a dick and then write a woke article about how it made you a better person

>>535101970
And look what happened to you, you ended up completely uneducated. I feel bad for you, you grew up with no understanding of the society you live in.

>>535101959
You're a primitive monkey.

>>535101620
Just say you're a communist.

>>535102026
I literally mentioned that with "powerful interest groups", "excess consumption is taxed, rather than the labor and necessary consumption of those already struggling", and "community autonomy".

I offer real solutions to the problems of class, fairness and equality. I'm not an idiot who thinks "kill the rich" is the solution.

>>535102289
You didnt fool me guy. You loaded your post up with a bunch of idpol dogwhistles and didnt wanna touch capitalism, the wealthy or class. You didnt fool me. Youre here to misrepresent our views as leftists and I just want everyone who reads these comments to know, from an actual leftist, you dont represent me nor did you fucking fool me.

/pol/ pot hanged all of the academics, and if you are one of those academics then you exemplify why it happened and was perfectly right.

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>>535101620
>I'm a liberal faggot history teacher
>my readings of history (written by other liberal faggots) has solidified my liberal faggot world view
Cool story bro.
Liberal democracy was a mistake.
Heil Hitler \o

>>535102115
>It's the same thing. The only difference is who's fucking who.
Free trade benefits both sides

>No one is free from coercion
Employers compete for workers just like how workers compete for jobs. A free labor market would provide ample opportunity to work elsewhere

>Morality is subject.
Maybe so, but it's better than bloody war and conflict.

>So you want the government to steal
Governments have to steal to some extent to fund basic services such as military, border control, courts, police, etc.

>You're only creating a corruptible global authority.
We would need a system of checks and balances

>If ardent nationalist cant crush diversity, then their community has no autonomy.
Why can't a National State uphold the rights of communities within it to live autonmously? Why can't the Amish govern themselves free from the rule of Washington FDA technocrats?

>>535102173
Didn't read

>>535102254
I generally support free market capitalism

you offer nothing other than flamboyant pomp covering over the most basic "feel good" one liners about "helping your fellow man".

>>535101620
OP lies.
t. right wing actual historian

>>535102398
Very much this.

>>535102374
Pol Pot was a complete nutjob and no way any leftist would look up to him as anything but a ruthless brute.

I'm talking about actual leftists who fought for individual rights and liberties against tyrants. People like the Founding Fathers, people like Adam Smith, people like William of Orange.

>>535102374
The new left is just neo liberalism with a bad attitude. This is why you have billionaires making "art" like lgbtq movies and video games that no one buys. Yours is the ideology of the elite.

>>535102418
You're part of the poorly educated that Trump was talking about.

>>535102199
if i kill you i win, that is basic form of history. you been brainwashed by a system of people stronger then you giving you silly ideas light rights, not knowing they only give you that system to control you easier.

>>535102612
You have been very brainwashed and it shows.

>if i kill you i win

A society that thinks like you will get BTFOed and that's what we see.. Somalia was obliterated by any nation that wanted to conquer it for whatever reason. Trump is bombing it right now.

>>535102404
Can an autonomus group not wish to interact with other groups? Can, for instance, all asians not want to interact with any non-asians?

>>535101620
Sounds like your history is made up. And is used to manipulate you into being retarded.

>>535101620
>I murder the Sons of God if they wear a specific uniform

>>535102404
>Free trade benefits both sides
Who? Which sides?
>Employers compete for workers just like how workers compete for jobs. A free labor market would provide ample opportunity to work elsewhere
Meaning that it displaces people.
>Maybe so, but it's better than bloody war and conflict.
It's why we have bloody war. You can't stop it. It is human nature. Your beliefs and perverse and anti-human.
>Governments have to steal to some extent to fund basic services such as military, border control, courts, police, etc.
Not true. It can run on donations.
>We would need a system of checks and balances
That can't prevent corruption. Again, this is human nature.
>Why can't a National State uphold the rights of communities within it to live autonmously?
If they have autonomy, then they can be racially or ethnically exclusive if they want.

>>535102673
are you saying that if trump kills every iranian he does win retard?

>>535101620
You get very funny when equal authority to issue currency gets brought up. So much for your stalwart Leftism!

>>535101620
>studies history
>isn't a nazi

How does this happen?

>>535101620
The biggest mistake America every made was not destroying the sundry other competing nations once we developed the nuke.

You're another useless White Liberal, and you will die by your wants, in ignorance to your long-term needs.

>>535101620
TLDR, you're gay is all I got from your post

>>535101974
>It sucks how it devolved with the rise of China and Russia as global powers
Wait, why are you bitching over that? As a leftie shouldn't you be glad socialist nations are on the rise?

>>535103634
he's ZOG. doesn't matter if you're left or right

>>535101620
I'm a White Identitarian Leftist
what now?

>>535101620
you are a retarded naive nigger. If I give you 10 billion dollars on the condition that you go to any part of Africa that's fully black and make your ideas work. you will without question be dead in less than a year and have accomplished absolutely nothing

>>535101620
>oh wow the government wastes so much money we need a new system which is the exact same system we have now
fuck you spook lol

>>535101620
>wall of text
you will never be a woman and you should kill yourself.

>>535101620
>ripe

You mean rife. No way are you a professor. If you are, standards sure have gone down since my days.

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>>535102673
obvious tranny is obvious

>>535101620
I would make it very simple:
Tax the rich and give the excess money to the poor people not the state because the state squanders it.
Doesnt mean that the state doesnt need a lot of money but an excess over a certain point means berlining stuff.

>>535101974
>The 90s really saw the opening of a Unipolar world where the U.N and International Criminal Court held respect and authority
>where the U.N and International Criminal Court held respect and authority
you are the blackest gorilla nigger retard. holy shit you are fucking stupid

>OP memeflag 10 pbtid 'my uncle works at nintendo'

>>535101620
You sound like a fucking fag.
I don't care who ends up in power - left wing Stalinists or some kind of right wing Christian nationalists.

As long as they kill people like you.

>>535104108
If your people have a lot of imports, you would basically just be sending anything that can be used to grow your economy to whomever you get imports from. You'd be fucking your people hard.

I'll accept economic liberalism if you accept social conservatism.

>>535104335
>I will accept global communism if you stop being a socialist
yeah that's not how it works with these guys

>>535101620
>memeflag
>actually history makes you more left wing
Something tells me you’re the prime example of those that can’t do opting to teach

>>535101620
The biggest issue with history is people who lie, i.e., Jews and Muslims who SAY that they are opposed to racism, but are actually intensely racist, supremacist, and xenophobic.

Any institution, left-wing or right-wing, is mostly fine as long as liars (which are most easily identified by parentage/ethnicity, i.e., Semites, jeets, what-have-you) are barred from any form of power.
Islamic history proves this quite easily, as does contemporary times.

Not that you're a real educator.

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>>535101620
youre stupid as fuck
go somewhere to africa and theach them your fuckin stupid ideals dickhead we'll see if you survive even one minute stupid fucking cunt!

>>535101974
>the opening of a Unipolar world where the U.N and International Criminal Court held respect and authority
This is a pipe dream. International authority is only as strong as those that uphold it and their ability to enforce it. The reason this "worked" for a while, was because of US hegemony. By worked, i mean that the US was able to dictate International law as they saw fit, and exclude themselves from consequences when they felt like it. All laws, national or international are predicated on enforcement and violence. This idea that we will all hold hands and do what's best for the world is utopian nonsense.

>>535101620
> I'm a Left-Wing Activist and History Teacher
Kind of an oxymoron

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>>535101620
I’m a Billy the Kid historian and you can all suck my dick.

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>>535101620
Try Reddit we already know you unapologetically defend and promote White Genocide. Most certainly jewish.

>>535104426
Socialism is ok as long as it's of the nationalist variety. The 3rd Reich wasn't a libertarian paradise.

>>535101620
>words words words
If you knew anything about history you would realize almost all conflicts were rooted in ethnic fighting for resources. Monoethnic countries are much more peaceful/prosperous and pushing for diversity is evil. NIgger

>>535101620
the naivety of the left is only surpassed by their idiocy.

you need to accept that the only meaningful way to settle international disputes is through force. international courts etc. are a way of formalizing the power dynamic, as soon as the dynamic shifts the courts become useless.

what makes you think your ideas are worthwhile or some sort of progression from what exists? I don't understand how you think any of this ought to happen or why you think it's justified in any way.

>>535102673
retard lol

>>535104818
I don't think it's possible to be a liberal hedonist

>>535102692
Yup that would be up to the community.

>>535103634
I want America to be the global hegemony. We support free markets and individual rights.

>>535101620
Oh? You mean like you're currently lecturing a group of people you know nothing about to promote your pedagogical and ideological superiority by virtue of your authority on the subject? That's intellectual imperialism, son. Zealotry. A primitive crutch you're using dishonestly to assert your position in the new paradigm.

Let us put our differences aside and work together to bring about your conception of the good, no? Why do you think you know more about it than I do, and why do you think you have the authority to instruct people who you think know less than you? Anyone can be stupid and correct or smart and incorrect, being against corporatism and for meritocracy has nothing to do with you being a direction-brained ideologue.

>>535101650
/thread

>>535102747
>Who? Which sides?
Both parties of the trade

>Meaning that it displaces people.
People may have to move for better work, that's fine, if you are not economically able to sustain yourself, you don't deserve to be preserved for no reason

>It's why we have bloody war. You can't stop it. It is human nature. Your beliefs and perverse and anti-human.
Yes we can, we've done a pretty good job at getting war reduced to the point where it's a global rarity.

Have you considered that nature wants niggers to stay in Africa and Indians in India?

>>535102747
>If they have autonomy, then they can be racially or ethnically exclusive if they want.
Yeah true what's the issue?

>>535105281
>I want America to be the global hegemony
oh, so you're "left-wing" in the same way the CIA is "left-wing": performatively, while working for the global empowerment of the bourgeoisie

>>535103797
It's almost like African is rife with conflict, civil war, and post-colonial distrust of institutions, retard.

>>535104131
You're a dumb historically illiterate imbecile. You shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>>535104453
I'm a secularist and against most religions for thi sreason.

>>535104480
The U.N has done good work in Africa, you dumb uneducated white trash.

>>535104510
And that's what I'm for, U.S hegemony, but a U.S hegemony that actually respects international rule of law and upholds fairness. It's ironically in the interest of the U.S to uphold such a system because it benefits itself in the long term as well.

Believe it or not, before Bush, the U.S did its best to go through U.N Security Councils before engaging in conflict, and reluctantly bypassing it, rather than discarding it all together.

>>535104927
>ze almost all conflicts were rooted in ethnic fighting for resources. Monoethnic countries are much more peaceful/prosperous and pushing for diversity is evil.

You don't know shit about history.

>>535104951
>you need to accept that the only meaningful way to settle international disputes is through force. international courts etc. are a way of formalizing the power dynamic, as soon as the dynamic shifts the courts become useless.

You are dumber than a gorilla.

>>535105031
Uneducated.

>>535105641
Actually as I mentioned, I'm against political lobbying, political corruption. Idealistically the bourgeoisie would be taxed on their excess consumption and said money would be used to repay the national debt and balance the budget.

>>535101620
history is full of gay retard know-it-alls like you too

>>535105692
You are literally the problem.
Again, dont care if we end up with stalinists or Christian taliban.
I just want you and all your friends dead.

>>535105830
I want you in a mental institution being forcedfed

all your kind achieves with your rhetoric is effectively to kill off the only people who could ever take you seriously and created the order of things that affords your licence of verbosity, so keep up with it

>>535105692
nigger there haven't been colonies in most African nations longer than you've been alive I am certain of that. you are a pie in the sky idealistic midwit and an insult to actual leftist discourse

>>535105928
U.S is still pretty powerful, E.U is still pretty powerful.

>>535105951
You unironically gave the analogy of giving me $10bn and going to Africa to see if I could make my ideas work.

You're stupid, you aren't educated enough to reason with.

>>535105882
Yeah I know. You've already effectively done that to a significant portion of the productive population via psychiatry, a "service based economy" and goy slop.

I know exactly what you want because were all living in it now.

>>535105337
Seems you have a limited understanding of neocolonial globalization and democratic peace theory, educator-kun. As expected. There are cycles of decay and rebirth; if you don't prune the branches, your yeilds will be poor, and if you dont cull the heard, the entire ecosystem will collapse. War isn't bad, it's symbiotic, as is conflict and strife. It scales infinitely upwards in all forms of life and the will to live in spite of suffering is arguably the single most defining trait of life. The unification of all peoples into a single homogeneous mass of capital is the kind of sick fiction an armchair plutocrat would have, and is the kind of justification a petty Pol Pot would use to "liberate" his enemies.

>>535105756
>>535105692
And why do you think you're entitled to an opinion on international law? Globalization is the single largest threat to humanity and is the exact cause of every single one of your complaints in your second post. I suggest you read up on the subject, you lack the accumen for a civilized discussion and are the exact problem with the world; egotistical duplicitious faggots using empathy as a weapon. A "neoliberal".

>>535105882
Exactly, mask off eh? And what sort of power do you have to enforce that? Certainly not physical; you dream of horror by proxy through legislation and rhetoric.

>>535105756
>Actually as I mentioned, I'm against political lobbying, political corruption. Idealistically the bourgeoisie would be taxed on their excess consumption and said money would be used to repay the national debt and balance the budget.
without a government of the proletariat, small reforms like this only serve as a temporary setback to the people seeking to exploit and oppress
you're treating the symptom, not the disease, and ultimately helping to prolong the life of the current bourgeois system of exploitation
the us constitution is a fundamentally bourgeois document, which is why the rise of china and its fundamentally proletarian government to global hegemony is a good thing

>>535106015
post your degrees fag boi. you can cover the name and date but everything else must show and you must id stamp them with your handwritten id itt. I'll then follow with my own and me and the rest of the thread can fucking laugh at how outclassed you are despite thinking you are the smartest person in the room

>>535105971
>still
>petty
yeah count the days left, great achievement for sure, going from double digit global population with total control of the globe to having to even justify your own existence in your own homelands and beg for raw materials elsewhere with an increasingly irrelevant industry

>>535106115
I would also laugh about this. This nigga hasnt even read grotius.

>>535101620
llm shit

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Where did you go, fagboy? Classic. A pretentious charlatan realizes they're the dumbest person in the room and runs away after talking shit.

>>535106115
You're literal trailer trash.

>>535106117
U.S is more powerful than ever.

>>535106164
>grotius.
You have never read kissenger.

>>535106094
In a free market, you see the fruits of labor go to the workers. What you produce is what you earn.

>>535106079
>here are cycles of decay and rebirth; if you don't prune the branches, your yeilds will be poor, and if you dont cull the heard, the entire ecosystem will collapse. War isn't bad, it's symbiotic, as is conflict and strife. It scales infinitely upwards in all forms of life a

This is Spengler tier arguments, you're very uneducated and it shows.

>>535106902
I was called for dinner, finished it as soon as possible.

>>535105337
>Both parties of the trade
It can effect others as well though.
>People may have to move for better work, that's fine, if you are not economically able to sustain yourself, you don't deserve to be preserved for no reason
What's the point in people creating an economy that destroys them? Why do you want that?
>Yes we can, we've done a pretty good job at getting war reduced to the point where it's a global rarity.
No we haven't.

>>535109611
It doesn't destroy them, they just move to where they will be most economically valuable

>No we haven't.

We have

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbuUW9i-mHs

>>535102511
Every billionaire in this country is on your side and making "art" which is intended to keep morons like you voting for fascism on the basis of culturewars. You're laughably ignorant if you havent figured that one out by now. Especially in this far right capitalist country which has been in an 80 year long war against communism or other left-wing politics anywhere it exists. No excuse for your ignorance.
>>535102498
Hahaha. And there it is. "I'm a leftist! And I'm against America's history of slavery and imperialism! But no, I'm not a supporter of Pol Pot or communism! I'm a supporter of America's founding fathers who genocided indians and owned slaves!" Yeah dude you proved everything I was posting about above. You are not in any fashion a leftist. You are a fascist who is running LARPs on /pol/ to misrepresent us leftists with racebait and attention on our divisive history which is not what leftist politics are about. You're just here to propagandize people into voting for right-wing politics with hollow racebait or other idpol bait. Same bullshit academia, big tech and the western MSM are all doing. But you do not fool me. And you do not fool millions of others.

>>535110111
>>535102498
Also everyone who is reading this thread and falling for OPs LARP where he portrays himself as "a leftist" and then racebaits you into hating leftists should look at these posts >>535102498 and the others associated in that discussion. OP is not a leftist. OP is a fascist who doing what every fascist propagandist revolves his grift around: Using any platform available to him in order to misrepresent leftist views as unpalatable by pretending to speak for us when they most certainly absolutely do not.

>>535101620
>Community autonomy should triumph the will of ardent nationalists seeking to crush diversity and install uniformity
Another moron created from our current education system. Increasing promotion of diversity leads to nationalism. They are intertwined. If you want people of different backgrounds to coexist you ironically have to crush their cultural differences. Seems like you need to hit the history books.

Idk about any of that shit but I got this burger I drunkenly ordered and forgor about last night, it's been on the doorstep all night and it was cold out but I'm wondering if I should heat it up and eat it? Any and all advice welcome, thanks.

>>535110111
>ght capitalist country which has been in an 80 year long war against communism or other left-wing politics anywhere it exists.

Has to be bait. Imagine being so fucking stupid you think that America is a far-right capitalist country at war with communism.

America is economically and socially one of the most leftist societies to ever exist. America is built on the idea that all people are created equal. We have had public services and community owned means of production on a state and community level since inception. We are a radically left socialist nation.

Morons like you are kept fighting a class war so you never pay any attention to the culture or social attitudes that shape the human psyche.

>>535110366
>Increasing promotion of diversity leads to nationalism.

Uneducated historically illiterate moron. God I wish we could ban people like you from the voting booth.

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i thought so too, but then i realized we've been in a 2300 year long world war against a group of people who is hellbent on conquering and enslaving the world

so whatever your opinions, theyre meaningless if you dont solve the more pertinent problem.

>>535110380
LMFAO @ how you started this thread "pretending to be a leftist" in order to bait everyone with divisive identity politics intended to misrepresent us who are actually on the left, and now you've outright devolved into usual far right and fascist rhetoric.

No. The United States is a capitalist nation with private means of production. Our economic policies are further to the right even than our capitalist nations (ie, we dont even have universal healthcare, or other basic social safety net measures / central planning). Moreover, we fund fascism everywhere it exists in the world (ie Ukraine right now) while opposing leftism anywhere it exists in the world for 80 years (ie, venezuelans, cubans, chinese, russians, baathists like Saddam / Ghadaffi / Assad, and many many many many more). There is no excuse for you to pretend you do not understand this and you're clearly at an overwhelmingly undeniable point of just being deceptive and dishonest with everyone with your OP and comments within this thread.

I also think its hilarious how youre now openly deriding "the class war" after beginning this thread "pretending to be a leftist". Utterly just hilarious.

>>535110380
we dont even have public access television anymore

>>535110415
Explain Yugoslavia. Retard.

>>535110569
>i thought so too, but then i realized we've been in a 2300 year long world war against a group of people who is hellbent on conquering and enslaving the world
Christians, yes.